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You will not be surprised to learn Marco Rubio claiming that the preemptive threat against the US was actually from Israel. I'm not kidding. No, we will break you off, and not just him, Mike Johnson too. I mean this is crazy stuff that they're saying this out loud. Break all of that down for you, baby. Was on Fox News last night celebrating, of course, the golf States are in chaos. Our embassies are being attacked. Par Arcie is going to
join to break down what is going on. Scott Horton is also going to join to break down his larger historical perspective of how.
We got to this place.
Media is propagandizing during their pro war propaganda on overtime. We've got some low lights for you there, and we're going to take a little trip back and the very recent trip back down memory lane of all the lies that we're told from Jade Vance and Tulci Gabber and An RFK Junior and Steven Miller and Donald Trump himself about how they did not want war with Iran, and yet here we are. Also Ryan and I are going
to record an interview with kat Abogazella. You'll recall last week Ryan had some reporting about her foreign policy views, so we thought the best thing to do would be to have her on and just ask her directly what she thinks about various issues, including the Iran war of course, so we will have that for.
You as well.
I'm interested to follow that been a lot of drama before the Iran war entire out number.
Rian's always starting some shit, you know.
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You if I said it three days ago, it would have been the anti Semitic conspiracy, And now it is coming out of the mouth of the United States Secretary of State.
That's right.
So not only Marco Rubio, but also Mike Johnson saying that the reason, because everyone's saying why are we doing this? That the reason, according to them, is that Israel is going to strike around no matter what that that would put our US service members at risk, and so we calculated while we may as well be involved, because maybe that will help us to be able to control the outcome. Here, let's go ahead and take a listen to how they framed that.
Why now, Well, there's two reasons why now. The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we get them, we would suffer much higher casualties,
and so the President made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even high those killed, And then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that.
Indeed, they had to evaluate the threats to the US, to our troops, to our installations, to our assets in the region and beyond, and they determined, because of the exquisite intelligence that we had that if Israel fired upon Iran, it took action against Iran to take out the missiles, then they would have immediately retaliated against US personnel and assets. The consequences of inaction on our part would have been
could have been devastating. We don't know at what magnitude, but you can assume, because it is common sense that if Iran had begun to fire all of their missile arsenal short and in mid range missiles at our personnel and our assets and our installations, we would have suffered staggering losses.
I mean sager.
Taken at face value, this is utterly humiliating and insane and obviously begs one really clear question, which is okay, If Israel striking Iran was going to create all of these problems and put our service members at risk, why don't we stop Israel from striking Iran?
This is our client state.
They can't function without our protection, our weaponry, our support, etc. So why did we just get coerced into this rather than going to our client vassal state and saying, no, you're not going to strike Iran because this is against our interests.
We need to This is the most extraordinary admission probably in modern history by the United States Secretary of State. They claimed that this war was preemptive, and it was preemptive in the sense that we had to preempt Iranian reaction to Israel's preemption. Are you here with me now? We are not a sovereignty is threat threat. We have
sacrificed our sovereignty. We are a non sovereign nation. If the world's superpower is subject to a country the size of New Jersey, which basically makes nothing and is controlling our politicians such that, despite being the largest single recipient of military aid in the history of the United States, that we are not capable of telling them no. And it is now documented history from the New York Times now to the open mouth of the comments of the U s Secretary of State and the Speaker of the
House that.
This is Israel's war. Israel's war.
Now, Donald Trump has agency, but he never once was able apparently it even entered his mind to say, Hey, you're not going to do that. We're going to cut off weapons. We're going to make you a global pariah, and good luck defending yourself without all of our missile defense systems. That never once entered their minds. And you know what I also I was thinking about. You have
to think even the Iranians. Iranian strategic calculus was, guys, they won't want to hit us, or Israel's not going to want to hit us because we'll hit US bases. And the theory behind that was by threatening US basis, it would mean that we would constrain or restrain Israel
from striking them from their belliger inaction. They never could have imagined the world where the client state is actually dictating and dragging policy of the United States and the global Empire actually enter the war on their very behalf.
We are beyond screwed.
Also, at a certain point, is it even useful to play comments here? At this point from Donald Trump, Israel's in the driver's seat. They're the ones who killed Iatola Kamani. We're the ones, apparently who gave them the intelligence. There are the ones who do it. All of the strikes now so far are for regime collapse. The ingredients for
civil war are happening. They're already job bb Netanyahu got Donald Trump, maybe got Donald Trump made Donald Trump, I don't know, got Donald Trump on the phone with a bunch of Kurdish leaders in Iraq and they're like, hey, go on in there, let's let's stoke a little civilrties.
This hill border guards they killed all the come in over the Portvity is.
Really stressed by their own admission they are new. They're going after and blowing up all the police stations. You only do that to collapse the civil society. And they're in the country.
Nine different hospitals, obviously murdered those schoolgirls, et cetera. And here's the thing is, you know, I keep bringing up the Epstein files because you have to look at this and go, Okay, this is insane. You know, Trump clearly had resistant reluctance to go into a full blown war with a run, and yet nevertheless he did it. And it never occurred to him, or it never seemed to be an option to him to go tos Roun and say no, we will cut you off.
Here will be the you know, here will be the reaper.
This is something that previous American presidents have been able to do. It's not like Israel's so out of control and they have so much autonomy that they're able to do all of these things on there. No, they're fully and completely enabled by us. So why is that not an option on the table? Why and you have I mean, you can't help but ask yourself. Maybe it is Epstein files, right? Is it just the money from Miriam Addelson? Like there's lots of people who give Trump money for his campaign.
There's all sorts of interests that are you know, at filling his both campaign and personal coffers with cash. So that really it, it's just about the Israel lobby cash. There's some piece of this that is missing that just does not add up. Because listen, Donald Trump is extremely belligerent, right, He's bombed more countries in you know, his presidency than like any other American president. He has no problem taking
a hawkish military action. But it did seem like the one thing that he was reluctant to do was get embroiled in a long, large scale war, particularly in the Middle East. And yet here we are and you've got the Secretary of State saying, well, Israel made us do it. It does not add up. It does not make sense. There is some piece of this that is missing. And so you cannot call people crazy when they look at the Epstein files, cover up and go, I.
Don't know, maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's what's going on here.
Yeah, the to quote Dave Smith, think about this, George W. Bush had the wisdom not to do what Donald Trump is doing. I mean I said it before, you're going to launch a so called war of choice, preemption, whatever you want to call it, now admitting openly nin with ten months or whatever before the midterm elections in your first year. If we think back to the history of the Bush presidency, we're we're all on the right track.
You've got an unpopular war in the Middle East. You're going to have what a w call the two thousand and six midterms a thumping?
Is that what he said? It's a thumping whenever they democraticking? And then yeah, that.
Was Obama's Yeah, I think I think a Bush called it a thumping. Then we have a massive financial crash.
So we're on track. Okay, oh yeah, we're all on track.
This thing is is down of control. I mean, we've got embassies that are being attacked. We're telling Americans now in twelve different countries in the region, like, oh, use commercial means and get out of the region. Well, there are no commercial means. The air lines are all shut down.
The airports are all virtually shut down. You know, there was an article yesterday about how Americans, mostly wealthy Americans, and the UAE, we're trying to get the heck out of Dubai and there's no way to get out of that area. The busiest airport in the entire world, and it's all but closed down. So you've got this thing
already completely spiraling out of control. And you know, apparently they thought maybe if we take out the Ayatola and we hit them pretty hard in the front, maybe this whole thing will collapse and the IRGC will just hold a hand over their arms and we can declare mission accomplish. This is delusional, obviously, and now they realize this is delusional, which is why Donald Trump is not going out and
talking to anybody. Yesterday sent he said, oh, everybody, go listen to beb Nanyahu on Fox News because apparently this is the person who's actually calling the shop.
We'll get to that, but yeah, Trump is out to lunch like completely. Let's take a listen to him yesterday at the White House during a Medal of Honor ceremony.
We're in he.
Spent I watched the entire thing. He began with maybe a four minute segment on Iran, where he was extremely tired, he seemed distracted, his heart really didn't seem in it at all, and he immediately pivoted to start talking about the fucking ballroom.
Let's take a listen.
Our objectives are clear. First, were destroying orens missile capabilities, and you see that happening on an hourly basis, and their capacity to produce brand new ones and pretty good ones they make. Second, we're annihilating their navy. We've knocked out already ten ships. They're at the bottom of the c. Third, we're ensuring that the world's number one sponsor of TARA can never obtain a nuclear weapon, never going to have
a nuclear weapon. We're already substantially ahead of our time projections. But whatever the time is, it's okay. Whatever it takes, we will always and we have right from the beginning, we projected four to five weeks, but we have capability to go far longer than that.
We'll do it.
Whatever somebody said today, they said, oh, well, the president wants to do it really quickly. After that, he'll get bored. I don't get bored. There's nothing boring about this to that nice drape. When that comes down right now, you see a very very deep hole. But in about a year and a half from now, you're going to see a very very beautiful building. And there's your entrance to
it right there. In fact, it looks so nice, I don't think i'll even I think I'll save money on the doors, because you can't get more beautiful than that. I picked those drapes in my first term. I always like gold. But I think we can and save a lot of money. I just saved I just saved curtains. But and it will be It'll be spectacular, be the most beautiful ballroom. I believe it's because I built many a ballroom.
I believe it's.
Going to be the most beautiful ballroom.
That was not an unfair cut. That literally happened.
I watched the entire thing, not joking, like we only spared you about two to three minutes in between Iran and all of that. In addition, by the way, Trump continues this thing where he'll take his and will answer his cell phone for anybody who calls. Let's put this up here on the screen from the New York Post where yesterday he refused to rule out sending US troops to Iran if necessary, saying, quote, I don't have the
YIPS with respective boots on the ground. Like every president says there will be no boots, I don't say it, Trump said after launching strike Saturday to decapitate Iran's military and political leadership. I say, probably don't need them or if they were necessary. So that is the situation as we currently have it. And Crystal, you know that civil
war point that we made earlier. At every time that we have to try and launch some insurgency to over throw or destabilize a government, there are US special forces that accompany them on the ground. And look, no hate to the Kurds. You know they've been screwed around by the United States now probably decades. But we did a lot of work together in the counter Isis campaign, So these forces know exactly how to work together as a basin air bill, right, you know where they are, and look.
It's all ready to go.
The weapons are there, will be the most well armed insurgents in history, that's all. They need a little bit of a forward deployment from a couple special advisors. It's going to look like the special operations that went in in October two thousand and one with the Taliban, or to defeat the Taliban.
That's the theory at least.
But that is the recipe for quagmire, for disaster, for civil war, for collapse, and that is Look, if we are to acknowledged this is Israel's war. It is almost irrelevant to what Donald Trump wants. Only he can pull the plug. At least he did in the Twelve Day War. But of course that was just a lead up to do this entire thing.
It was a pause.
Then we tried all of the internal you know, let's collapse therency, let's stoke the protests, you know, let's see if that will work. And then when that failed, then we're back to a war. And yeah, I mean you and with all of them, obviously they all lie, you know, when if they're breathing, they're lying.
But you can look at what they're doing.
And to your point, we see these reporting about oh, let's let's talk to the Kurds, let's kill the border guards and you know, open up that border so people can flood in. And then you also see in the targeting they targeted Akmadnazad, you know, previous president of Iran.
They targeted a jailed opposition leader who was under house arrest, so they wanted to make sure that this actually wasn't a regime change, that there was no other person who had any sort of legitimate base of support who could come in and take the reins, because Israel's goal is regime collapse.
They don't want a strong Iran.
They want they don't I apparently don't believe they can really successfully install a puppet, so they just want it to be chaos, death, insanity, civil war, et cetera, so that they can, you know, extend their region regional hegemony. With that being said, we've got a lot more to get to and we've got doctor Tree to Parsi standing by, so let's go ahead and bring him in. All right, everyone, we are fortunate to be joined by front of the show, doctor Tree to Parcy of.
The Quincy Institute for Responsible state Craft.
Great to see, Sir good, Deseasir good to be with you guys.
So we just played for the audience, Marco Ruvio and Mike Johnson both saying no, the imminent threat came from the fact that we knew Israel was going to attack Iran. Regardless of whether we involved ourselves, we knew that would put our US service members at risk. Therefore, we felt compelled to strike Iran first. Your reaction to those extraordinary revelations.
I'm delighted that he has spelled it out that this is the reason that, at the end of the day, the Israelis have been driving the boat on this one, and that the United States has followed their lead and let them decide when the US goes to war and when it doesn't. This is, at the end of the day, a decision they made. They made a decision to let the Israelis decide, and now they're trying to hide behind that as if is some sort of a self defense.
At this point, there's no speculation value any longer as to whether that Israel is the driving force behind this or not. It is coming out of the mouth of Rubio, and it's coming out of the mouth of the Speaker of the House as well. It is now clear this is what they decided. This is not by any definition America first. This is Israel first.
This is probably the most consequential Kinsley gaff in American history where they accidentally tell the trilogy, and that is one where I really don't even know where to go from here. I do think it is worth noting that the administration has laid out the most maximalist goals and it's now making a mockery of America. First, let's say put a six let's say up there on the screen.
I really loved this exchange. So Matt wall Show over at the Daily Wire.
He put out a tweet, He's like, I've got some questions about this whole operation, and Press Secretary Caroline Levitt released a statement and said, let me reiterate all of the objectives. We're going to destroy the regime's missile raise our missile industry to the ground. We're going to annihilate the navy. We're going to ensure the regime's terrorist proxies
can no longer operate. We will stop them from making and using IEDs and when, by the way, ID literally means improvised, So okay, guarantee that Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon. Preventing the regime from threatening America killing terrorists is good.
And there's a long continued diet tribe.
I was like, you know, whenever she was meant to address concerns about regime change. This is a regime change manifesto. I don't see any way that there could be a realistic off ramp without effective surrender from the Trump administration.
Curious for your review.
So here's what I think has happened. I think, first of all, you're right. But here's I think how we got there. The administration was led by these Raelis to believe that this is going to be a very simple operation. They thought that by Sunday evening this would have been wrapped up, that the regime would have imploded as a result of the assassination of the Supreme Leader. That obviously did not work. Twice reportedly, perhaps even three times, from preached out and trying to see if he could get
a ceasefire from the Vannius. The Vannius rejected it, and I can go into as to why the Iranians rejected it. So now they're stuck in a situation in which they understand that the Iranian game plan is to prolong this and expand this war and play to what their relative strength is, which is they can withstand this, whereas Trump probably cannot, not militarily but politically, he cannot withstand this.
For a couple of weeks. So now the Trump administration is trying to essentially convince the Iranians that no, no, no, no, the United States is more than ready to withstand this for a long time. He suddenly said four weeks and that now as a result of the Iranians refusing a ceasefire, he is going even more maximalism. So he is throwing good money after bad money after his first completely unrealistic expectation was not met. And this is the very definition
of losing control. We're not even two or three days into the war and it's already clear they have lost control. Look at how they are grasping for straws, not just to find what objectives they should have, but also how to justify them. And in that effort they have gone as far as to say that Iran is at war with civilization, to actually admitting that all of this was done because Israel decided it was time to go there.
So I want to go back to why Trump let himself be led around by the nose by Israel, Because clearly there was some reluctance from the administration. You know, they were concerned you had the top military brass here leaking to basically every newspaper they could get a hold of to say, this is a real problem. We are not ready, there's an interceptor issue, this is not going to go well, there's tremendous risks here.
And yet, in.
Spite of all of that, and in spite of all of the very clear campaign promises that you know, we're going to play them later, he made Jadvan's made, Toulci Gabbard made RFK junior maid Steven Miller made like every top person in this administration said oh, of course, we're not going to go to war with Iran. In spite of all of that, he still ends up making the decision to do Israel's bidding.
Like, what can explain that?
Is it just the power of the Israel Is that Miriam Addelson money? Like how does this calculation get made when you have so many people, from the political people to the military people, warning that this is going to be a disaster.
It's really difficult to explain that. I absolutely cannot claim to have an answer. I think a part of the answer, though, is he has been lulled into this belief that everything he has done has been an absolutely amazing success, and everything he would did was in contradiction to the conventional wisdom and their advice. They told him that he can't move the embassy. He did, nothing happen. They told him that he couldn't recognize the Golan highs. He did, nothing happen.
They told him, you can't kill Suleimani. He did, in his view, nothing happened. They told him that he can't take out Foordo. He did. In his view, nothing happened. And then of course he did Venezuela. He's on this massive sugar high, the mother of all sugar highs. It's easier for the Israelis under those circumstances to tell him, Look, the Iranians are just so weak. All you need to do is push a little bit. You're going to be the hero. You're going to be the president that finally
puts an end to this regime. Everyone said that you can't do it. That's precisely why you should do it, because only you can prove them wrong.
So what you may see, maybe they mocked up a newspaper cover like us, or I.
Mean, they played to his psychology. The Aonians did not.
Right, yeah, right, and we shouldn't we should say that is, we should fault to their negotiating team as well. But now we are where we are, and so you know, what do you see? You said that the Iranians have rejected two, maybe three diplomatic overtures from the Trump administration. What is the internal logic inside of the regime right now? It seems pretty clear that they expected to take mass casualties at the top, They have decentralized military command. What
is their internal assessment right now? From far as you can tell, from how they're doing and for what they're planning.
The first thing we have to say to truly understand how they're thinking is that they truly unlike these Raelis who oftentimes throughout and say, oh, this is existential. For them, this truly is existential, and this is why they're making the decision of the way they're making it. They believe that a premature ceasefire, one in which after the US has scored a major victory, if they were to accept it,
all it would do. It would allow the US and Israel to regroup, remobilize, and then six months later relaunch a war. If there's to be a ceasefire, it has to be a prolonged and durable one. The only way the ceasefire could be durable, they believe, is if this war ends up being tremendously costly to all sides, so that all sides believe it was a mistake to start it, and as a result, believe it would be a mistake to restart it if they agreed to a ceasefire too
quickly without that cost actually being felt. They believe that it will only give the other side, the US and Israel, time to be able to regroup and then once again attack, Yvonne. This is the conclusion they drew after agreeing to ceasefire in June. Many of them believe that it was premature.
Many of them believe that these Radis were in a very, very bad situation because they had run out of interceptors, and it was a mistake for the Iranians to agree to that ceasefire and they're paying for that mistake now.
I mean, that was another incredible moment for Rubio as he also talked about that interceptor you'd made it. Yeah, he talked about, you know, they've got these drones and they're very inexpensive, and meanwhile we're shooting all these intercepts or we can't. They can make the drones much more quickly than we can make the interceptors. It's like, okay, then why are we doing this if that's not thing.
Once you're in this situation and you recognize that logic, which they should have recognized before, it actually pushes them to go all out as well. And that is what I think we're going to see in the next couple of days. Trump is going to.
Throw it where about what you yeah, tell me more about what you mean by that, And just to you know, as a little preamble here, we can put a nine up on the screen. We now know at least six Americans have been killed in action, at least eighteen have been seriously wounded. You have US embassies that are being attacked in a number of countries, both by Iran and also by local people. We know now we have confirmation that US Marines we're shooting at civilian rioters at the
US embassy in Karachi in Pakistan. We can put a eleven up on the screen. So already this straight up horror moves was sort of de facto closed because the insurers pulled the plug on shipping traffics, and basically we're not going to injure you, or we're going to jack up the price extraordinarily. Now Reuter's is reporting Iran is notifying vessels it is officially closing the Straight of Hormus. If officially closed, twenty plus million barrels of oil per
day will be impacted, twenty percent of global supply. Qatar has cut off their LNG production. Gas prices in Europe have already skyrocketed some fifty percent. So when you say we're going to throw everything that we have at it and we're going to go big, you know what does that actually in effect look like.
Let me start off by just saying one of the thing that I think is important. Just a couple of days, about three days before Trump decided to start this war, I was in a closed meeting with a bunch of former officials, analysts, military people, and the general view in the room was the Vonians would never do this. They will never close the straits, they would never attack the GCC states. It would be too costly for them. And I think it reflected the fact that this had not
really dawned upon people. The manner in which Trump is doing this is making a clear signal to Devonians. This is an existential fight, and in an existential fight, they're not going to think about tomorrow. They're not going to think about what GCC round relations are going to be a year from now. They're going to think about how
they survive this war. And as a result, decisions that were perceived to be unthinkable just empty threats from the Varnians we are now seeing happening on a daily basis. As you pointed out the closing of the straits, and again I think it shows the profound miscalculation, although of course those people in the room were not the decision makers. I think it reflects what also decision makers have been
thinking about this. I think what is happening now is that because of this essential I wouldn't call it panic, but really scrambling to try to figure out a new plan. The emphasis is going to be to throw everything at the Iranians. I think we're going to see significant bombardment.
We're going to see an effort to use the Kurds in order to launch attacks in the Kurdish areas in the absence of other ground troops, although I wouldn't be surprised if there may be some Israeli ground troops with the Kurds, although the Kurdish numbers are not very high. It's not so much that this actually would end up becoming like a real invasion, but something that would be further effort to try to cause Tehran to lose control
of the largest situation. If the Iranians are trying to expand the theater of war into areas that the US wasn't ready for. The US is responding in kind. But bottom line is we're seeing that the original plans didn't even survive the first five seconds of reality.
Yeah right, yeah, I mean already this is a full blown regional conflict, which, as you said, and by the way, Trump admitted, you don't just have to listen to you. We were surprised that they attacked the golf countries. He has caused absolute chaos. The State Department saying this morning, all citizens in the Golf should leave, all of them, by the way, good luck leaving. All of the airports
are closed. The US Ambassador Mike Huckabee is putting out guidance about how to get on a bus from Israel to the Sinai Peninsula and then hopefully be able to catch a flight from there to somewhere else before they can eventually get the hell out. There's over a million Americans who live in the region. I used to be one of them. But sticking with that, sir, let's put a ten up here on the screen, just so you can already see huge strikes in the middle of Tehran
in the middle of daylight. I mean, God only knows the number of people that have already been killed. But many of the reports coming out of Iran saying that
the Israeli strikes are specifically targeting these police stations. As as you said, the internal logic right now for the golf and for the United States is that this is already intolerable from a munition's depletion standpoint for interceptors, which means that they have to go all out bombard the country as much as humanly possible and try to basically erode their capacity to fight. This is the North Vietnam
bombing strategic logic of many, many decades. Of course, it doesn't work if you have a population and a regime which is hardened in its belief that it is completely existential. So let's say we do get this massive bombardment an effect effective trying for to collapse the state. Let's say they do take out the missile launchers, what's next from that point because the regime itself will still be intact, and it's not like Trump and Israel can just declare victory.
Again. I don't think there is much of a plan. The hope was that now they're targeting a lot of police stations, IRGC headquarters, besiege headquarters. The hope is that this eventually will lead to a regime implosion, because the repressive capabilities of the state will be eroded, and then magically people will rise up and take over. And you know, there is some basis to believe that something like this could happen. To bet an entire war. That it will
happen is a completely different story. I go back to what I said on this show several times. I repeated it as often as I could in every interview. Trump has been led to believe that Iran is much weaker than it is, and as a result, he's gone down this path. And now we're discovering that it is not that simple. As you mentioned, the problems for people for Americans to leave the GCC states, even leaving Israel. At this point, I spoke to a friend who was traveling.
He was in Dubai, can't get out, had to take a cab all the way to Oman. That border to Oman between the U and of Oman was just completely overloaded with people trying to escape Dubai and try to find a flight out of the Arabian Peninsula. Clearly no planning whatsoever from any side for this to be able to have, and yet the riding was on the wall.
Well, I mean, we've been listening to Professor Robert Pape, who's expert on warfare and airpower in particular. In one hundred years of trying this, there's never been a successful, a successful regime change just using air power. We also have the recent example of Gaza, which obviously is much smaller and where the Israelis with our assistance, bombed the hell of it out of it, reduced it all to rubble effectively, and had a ground invasion and still were
not able to dislodge Humas from power. So the you know, the arrogance, the delusion here is just extraordinary to me as someone who was not expert on these things whatsoever. Last question I had for you is, you know, I was watching that bombardment of Tehran, looking at the fact that they've already targeted.
Some nine hospitals.
Obviously, little girls massacred, over one hundred and sixty of them at a school. Another school, I think a girl's volleyball team was killed. Are they since the initial let's try to collapse the regime didn't work out, are they now going to pursue effectively the same strategy they pursued in Gaza.
It appears that at least on a couple of occasions that has happened, we've seen evidence of double tap attacks. There's a video of an Iranian woman who actually doesn't live in Iran, I don't know if she's Iranian American, who is crying and said that they struck this hotel. When people rushed in to try to help it, they struck again. So evidence of these double taps are now emerging.
One thing I have to say, though, I'm sorry to raise this, but I was on BBC last night and they aired tapes or reconstruction of tapes of three voices from Iran that they claim to have spoken to, who all were praising these bombings. I mean, one of them was saying that you know, we're applauding every time to hear a bomb without a doubt. I do believe that there is some level of support inside of Iran for this campaign. Certainly there's a degree of support, although I
think it's exaggerated in the diaspora. But BBC aired three voices who all said the same thing, given the viewers the impression that this is a liberation board, that the people inside of Iran are just yearning to be bombed.
And I had to call them out on and I said, this is worse than the Iraq war propaganda that I've seen, because you know very well that there's a diversity of us inside the country, yet you only aired one type of a voice and give people the impression that everyone is welcoming this for which is absolutely not the case.
Yeah, that's outrageous. And we've been watching this happen in our own There are ninety two million people in Iran. Ninety two million? Did three? Maybe what about the rest? How do we have any idea and how have we not seen this story? I've seen plenty of videos. Yeah, I've seen plenty videos. I'm sure you have too, of like secular looking people who are like we will stand and fight to the death against the United States and against Israel in the streets of Tehran could be selective
regime propaganda. I'm not going to take that fully as the only voice, but of course that voice exists too. It's completely irresponsible to say that it doesn't. And at this point, I mean the history of nationalism. Even in countries which are being externally bombed with you know, external pressure to be applied, many are not willing to just play ball with the imperial aggressor. But as you know, even if they do disagree with the internal politics, which
is quite literally the story of Iraq. I mean, I guess the final thing that we wanted to I guess wanted to talk to you a little bit about here is with this logic up along the escalation ladder, the consuming of the Gulf States, every story Top Wall Street, Journal, Bloomberg is interceptors are running out in the golf by the way, even these golf got I mean, I'm reading stories they're shooting Patriot four million dollar missiles at Shahad drones, which cost twenty thousand dollars.
They're going to be out within a week, maybe a month.
We don't exactly know the number if that happens, and we see a conflagration. Already, Saudi Ramco is under threat. They're saying that they're going to avoid the Straits of Hormuz, move oil through the Red Sea via pipeline. Qatar LNG has already shut down Iran, saying this morning they may
even attack Europe. When we see a depletion of that and we see this actually globalized into a major war, what does that look like from a global perspective, not only impact on the United States, but broadly for a regional and global picture for our geopolitics.
We don't know, because the planner who didn't think this through. I mean, this is truly unprecedented. The Iranians have struck or tried to strike Cyprus, where the Brits have been using a base that was extremely active in the genocide against Gaza, but apparently also had played a role in some of the attacks on Iran. It may also be a retaliation for the Brits allowing Garcia to be used
by the United States after first having resisted. The Iranians cannot reach out, so perhaps deystruckt the Cypress base short of that, But we also see what's now happening between Europe and Russia. Europe is now putting pressure on the Ukrainians to allow Russian gas and oil to come into Europe because now they're suffering from an astute fuel shortage that has been made much much worse because of this war.
I mean, life as a vassal is clearly not particularly easy, since you have put your own destiny in the hands of someone else. But the Europeans, to chose to become vassals of the United States in this matter, are not paying the price for it now. Will this then eventually lead to a scenario in which the Russians and the Chinese, one way or another, are also dragged into it. The conventional wisdom has always been that the Russians, at least the Chinese will do everything they can to stay out
of this. The Russians are not going to jeopardize their prospects for a deal to end the Ukraine Wars in order to help the Iranians. But if this expands in an uncontrolla uncontrollable way, then we cannot say exactly what the response of some of these other countries will be. We're also seeing right now other things. We're seeing that in Bahrain there are riots taking place. There's some reports that the Saudis have stepped in into Bahrain again to
clamp down on those protests, as they did in twenty eleven. Rain, of course, used to be Iranian territory. It's majority Shia, so we're already seeing the kind of repercussions that most people thought would only happen in the worst case scenario. We're three days into it. We're already in the worst case scenario in that sense.
Unbelievable, just absolutely unbelievable, Doctor Parsi, thank you as always.
Thank you, sir, thank you so much for having me.
Turning now to the Golf situation, which we just talked about with doctor Trita Parsi, the entire region and flame and also deeply afraid of what it means if they run out of interceptors. We did want to start though, with this extraordinary accusation by Tucker Carlson reporting that there were MOSAD plots and agents arrested by two different golf countries trying to foment terror and chaos in these countries.
Let's take a listen.
It really really hurts these countries, and Israel wanted to hurt these countries. That's the point, wanted to hurt these countries, wanted to show chaos and disorder because they are rivals of Israel. So it's probably not hasn't been reported, but it's fact that last night in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, authorities arrested MASAD agents planning on committing bombings in those countries.
Now that's weird, that doesn't make any sense. Why would the Israelis be committing bombings in two golf countries which are also being attacked by Iran. Aren't they on the same side.
No, No, Israel wants to hurt Iran and Qatar and Eway and Saudi and Bahrain and Oman and Kuwait.
Extraordinary claim there by Tucker Carlson and obviously highlighting the bigger strategic picture that we picked off our entire show is this is Israel's war. There's really not a whole lot in here for the United States. We've depleted our interceptor stockpile. We've now made a mockery of all of these golf country You know how many billions of dollargies in golf countries have spent on US.
I mean it's probably hundreds of billions if.
You total all of it together where they're like, look, we buy all your weapons, you get to keep our you get to keep your bases here to support the war in Iraq. We get to have a literal monarchy and it's all cool, and we have a ton of oil and you buy it.
That's it.
So it's security in exchange for monarchy. Everybody's kind of done a handshake deal around that. That's all being blown up their entire vision before the world. Let's go ahead and put some of this vo that we have up here on the screen. In each of these cases, we're showing you the region is literally inflame. So you've got Tel Aviv in the middle of last night. This is all just from last night. You've got missiles that are
flying around the screen. You can see some of the interceptors that come multiple interceptors that they're having to fire.
This one was in Doha.
Guitar.
I mean, this is genuinely shocking, Like it's crazy. Look at the amount of interceptors and all that are being fired up into the sky to intercept either drones or missiles that are coming in towards them. These people have never seen anything like this. This was video which was actually on the border of Saudi Arabia and of Bahrain.
As riots continue to break out in Bahrain, which has a large Shia population which you can see in front of you, Saudi Arabia is having to dispatch some security forces potentially to try and crush those riots, just like they did in the middle of the Arab Spring. So your foundation of their society is now in question. From Bahrain, which is the home of the Fifth Fleet, tens of thousands of Americans. Kuwait, of course their long security relationship with the US.
Iraq.
This morning, which somewhat allegedly was our protectorate or kind of was whenever we invaded and occupied it for I don't know, like twenty years, just had to shut down their largest oil field, Saudi Arabia this morning. The US Embassy in Saudi Arabia issuing a explicit notice that they have incoming missile and UAV attacks on dah Ran.
If you don't know what, Doron is, the home of the Saudi.
Aramco compound and of the largest oil facility in the world. In addition, we had the Saudi Embassy which was or the US Embassy in Riod was hit by drone yesterday and apparently the roof was caved in three different drone attacks that hit the US. I mean, do you know how insane a single attack on a US embassy is an international story. The US embassy in Riahat has now been hit. The US embassy in Baghdad was basically under siege for two days straight. You've got now confirmed reports.
We were careful. We talked about this yesterday. The United States military is now confirming vi A Reuters that marines fired on people in Pakistan. Sure that's going to go over. Well, That's going to go over real well in Pakistan, isn't it. Pakistani protesters killed by American marines in the middle of a consulate in a massive protest where people are shooting at each other. This is full blown chaos all over the entire world, and then bigger. What really belies all
of this is this story. Let's put B three up here on the screen. The UAE and Katar are urging allies to urge allies to help Trump find an off ramp and largely interceptor stocks. Front page of the Wall Street Journal literally this morning is about the number of interceptors that these trees are firing. They're four I mean, just think about the math here, four million dollar patriot against a twenty thousand dollars drone. They say that they might be done in a matter of a week, perhaps days.
And then what the hell is going to happen to the Burj Khalifa or the Queen Elizabeth Hotel or in Doha, I mean, the Ritz Car, all of these famous hotels. What did Professor jeongsay yesterday? Water desalination plants, the dams which are all over the country for water supply. What about Qatar LNG has already done. Qatar LNG announced this morning they're shutting down all downstream production, not just LNG
production of everything is happening. The Iraq oil field is down, The Saudi Aramco is basically notifying its suppliers that they're going to have to pick up from somewhere else to avoid the straits of the.
Disruption across the Gulf.
It will take them years to recover from this, you know, structure militarily, what are they going to do? And then brand wise, Oh my god, you've got probably a million plus maybe two million Americans who are now stranded all across the entire golf.
I mean, these are like very rich people like oil. I used to live there. I'm telling you, like, I went to the American School of Doha.
Every other kid is like, oh, my dad works at Exon or whatever. Imagine you've been living there for a decade, You're drinking Margarita's the Intercontinental Hotel, and the next day you are literally trying to get the hell out of the country.
But you can't. You literally can't.
All the people who go and vacation there, you know, again very high end luxury, Like do you think that they're going to be rushing back for their Dubai vacation after seeing luxury hotels going up and flame? And this is what their whole economy and image is built around. So that's why it's so long term devastating to them.
To your point, Zager, about that Wall Street Journal front page article on the Interceptor's math math, which again Marco Rubio himself came out and was talking about quite openly.
Yesterday.
Now, Donald Trump put on a truth social post saying that we could do war forever and it wouldn't be a problem. I'll ask you to you know which which version you'd believe. But in any case, they quote this expert who says, the intensity of interceptor usage that we have seen over the last couple of days cannot be maintained for more than another week, a week, probably a couple of days at most, and then they will feel
the pain of interceptor shortage. That is from Fabian Hoffman, a missile expert at the University of Oslo.
So that's where we're at.
And the Iranians number one, they have an asymmetric interest in this fight. So of course they're outmatched by the amount of firepower that we have in Israel and all of our allies, all the weapons we sold them over the years, blah blah blah. But they have one thing going for them, which is that it's truly an existential struggle. This means so much more to that. I mean, how how much do you care about this? You just probably want us to end this war?
Right?
They know that this is truly truly existential for them. We couldn't defeat the frickin' hoofies right armed with much cruder arms and much lower level of supply, because ultimately, at the end of the day, we didn't care enough to be able to you know, when they saw the fight as more important, we spent twenty years in Afghanistan with all of our weaponry and a ground invasion. And at the end of those twenty years when we left,
guess who came back into power the Taliban. Why because they cared much more than we did at the I mean, that's what really has screwed us. That is the lesson that should have been learned over all these many years when you were attacking people's lives, when you're attacking a government, when you're threatening its existence, they will fight to the death. And the American people are not bought in for this at all.
They are not willing to accept any of this pain.
Like the six service members who have already been killed in action is six to many, no one, virtually, no one outside of this small area and some you know, people in the Iranian diaspora here are really excited and enthused and motivated to suffer in any sort of way for this. And yet we can already see, I mean, doctor parties said it. It is already spiraled.
Out of control.
And to go back to Israel's motivation here with allegedly sending massad agents in to commit terror attacks, which it's not confirmed, but I certainly don't put it past them. The logic of that is that not only do they have an interest in just sewing chaos everywhere. We're going to talk to Scott Horton about how they're now openly advertising like, eh, Turkey's next, you know, after Iran, next
threat is Turkey. But also they want to they want to create these false flag attacks so that the Golf States are fully bought into the war too, that they also want to fully engage. So that's what Israel's constantly pushing for US and for all of the GCC to be fully in to this war. That is what serves their interest and so that is what they're trying to foment.
Right put C four up there on the screen, just to highlight again the problem and why this is really diminished the United States.
This is from the Middle East eye.
US is stonewalling request by Golf States to replenish interceptors. One Golf States sought reassurances on US commitment to air defense when discussing access to its bases. Again, by the way, Katar and the UAE highly dispute that original Bloomberg report. They're like, we're fine, we have plenty of interceptors. Apparently that's the new line. Donald Trump actually put out a
truth social in the middle of the night. Let me read it to you, because this is actually one of the most unhinged, dangerous things that he has said.
Maybe we'll add this in posts.
The United States munition stockpiles have at the medium and upper grade never been higher or better. Not true, as we stated to me today, we have virtually unlimited supply of these weapons.
Not true.
Wars can be fought forever very successfully, yes, but not with interceptors. Maybe with dummy bombs, jade ams and some bullets, but in that scenario you're going to be taking a shit pot of casualties. Wars can be fought forever using just these supplies. At the highest end, we have good supply, but we are not where we want to be. Much additional high grade weaponry is stored for us in outlying countries. That's the most dangerous part. Why because it means we
have to go all in. We don't have that many of these interceptors. If we want to go all in, say goodbye to Taiwan, Say goodbye to Ukraine. If you care about those places, say goodbye to any place in the world which may matter more than this tiny little country the size of New Jersey, which literally produces nothing, called Israel, and we are done.
That's it. It's over in terms of US geopolitical projection.
There aren't they already talking about pulling a sad battery from.
From South Korea? South Korean state media right now?
Yeah, anyone want to tell me what trading partner South Korea is compared to Israel in terms of its rank. South Korea is one of the most developed economies in the entire world, one of the most important trading partners.
Ever heard of this little brand called.
Samsung or any of these other places or you know, oh my god, I mean, I could go on forever of it's importance, not that anybody in the US apparently even gives a shit, but yeah, fad battery out of
that against Let's compare threats. One state has one of the world's largest standing armies, a literal nuclear tipped ICBM capable of hitting the United States, and frequently launches missiles against South Korea and Japan, two top trading partners which are vitally important to the security of the US.
That's called North Korea. The other one is called Iran.
It has short range and medium range ballistic missiles, it doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, and it can't hit the United States. And if we've done a deal with them, pretty much wouldn't have met. And which do you think is more important to defend against.
And has never started a war and has never.
Started a war or at least directly against the United States? So which do you think would you say is more important to defend But we're going to strip it from there.
That's just that's just one example. It's over.
I mean, let me let me read you my interceptor math, because people really do not appreciate how dire all of this is. I have the direct numbers. These are from CSIS. In the Twelve Day War, the US fired one hundred and fifty that interceptors to protect Israel. That was twenty five percent of the whole US stockpile. In the last forty eight hours, we have fired we don't really know, probably you know, several dozen at the very least in twenty twenty five.
How many new interceptors do you think that we.
Got ten twelve, ten month the year before, so tens in the last two years. So we fired more than what triple or sorry, Quinn Tipple in a single twelve in twelve days, and we'd acquired in a two year period. It's over. They can't manufacture these things cost millions of dollars. The defense supply chain is screwed. And for all the two trillion dollars that we spend on this, you know, it's funny. I was listening to the CSIS expert. They go The NPR person is like, but where does all
the money go? And he's like, well, most of the money's on Tricare, which is like welfare for all of these services and healthcare programs and subsidies. It doesn't actually go to a lot of the critical weapons systems, despite the fact that people have been.
Warning about this for years. But Trump's own admission.
The Patriot missile battery they say in there, the UAE and the Katar they were like, can we get more Patriots and are like, oh, we gave them all the Ukraine, sorry, they're all gone. We literally gave them all away. The Europeans can't give you anything. They shipped it all already for the Eastern Dunboss region.
It's this is bad.
They're like those they're mussling us up with those drones too. And I mean that was one of the things Professor Jang said yesterday is that our military really was built for the Cold War. It was built for flexing, it was built for performance of power, and it really has not been you know, reimagined for modern warfare. And so look,
the Iranians learned from the Twelve Day Wars. Okay, we're going to shoot off our you know, lower tech missiles and use these drones that can you know, evade some of them will evade your interceptors, and we're gonna we're gonna bet that we can outlast you. Now, let me tell you the other side of the other side of that is that the US. Look, they're bombing the hell
out of Tehran right now. Their their goal is to destroy all of the missiles, destroy all of the missile launchers, so that Iran can never make it to that point that Iran is not capable of, you know, outlasting because their capabilities have been so severely degraded and destroyed. And that is certainly a possibility. That is the bet that
they're making. But look already already what Iran has been able to do by saying basically fuck it, we're throwing everything against the wall, where we are putting all our chips on the table. We are all in the economic damage, the brand damage, and the gulf, the chaos, the attacks on the US, the humiliation really truly of the US.
Our fighter jets are flying or dropping out of.
The sky, which, by the way, there should still be a lot of questions about what the hell exactly happened there and whether that was truly friendly fire or not, because if it was, I mean the whole it's insane anyway. But the level of humiliation the US has already suffered here is truly incalculable. And you know, and the Iranians are like, no, we're not going to negotiate with you. We need to exact some pain because otherwise you will never leave us alone. So we are going to do
everything we can to make you suffer. And there is zero appetite for suffering on the US.
Also, our new update, just while we were filming Donald Trump, their Air Defense Air Force NAVAN leadership is gone. They want to talk, I said, too late.
Great, Oh yeah, I'm sure we take his word for it.
But no, I'm just like said a liar.
Regardless of what is being you know, maybe they probably said no, we don't want to talk at all, but him saying Nope, we're not going to talk at all.
We're going to go full on. So this is it.
I mean, I mean he's lying they I mean, based on other recording, they rejected it. And so he's trying, Oh you didn't fire me, I quit you know that's what he's doing.
Yeah, regardless, the situation is the same. There's only one logic from here. If you know you're going to run out of interceptors, then you've got to bomb the shit out of the country and to try and flatten and destroy it, collapse it into civil war. Well okay, well what comes next? What's going to happen after that massive refugee crisis, huge civil war? It could bleed all into the rest of the Gulf. These drones aren't going anywhere.
You've got hundreds of thousands of people with a bunch of guns and military training, and we don't have a ground force there to do anything about it.
So what do you think they're going to do? You think you're gonna take it, sit and line down.
By the way, they just attacked the Rocky Curds this morning, to try and preempt some sort of attack by them.
So we're already going cross border.
Well, and here's the other thing, you know, a bigger picture in terms of these So we know public sentiment in the US is against this war overwhelmingly. Look, the Republican base is going to go along with it by and large, but the rest of the populations like, what the hell is going on here?
Right?
And you even hear democrats, the democratic rhetoric has already shifted from being so extremely lame at the you know, especially at the top levels, to now after those Rubio comments, I'm here in democrats like Mark Warner saying some things about Israel I never thought I would hearer in my entire life, so that they are already reading the political
writing on the wall here. But you also have to think about the populations in the region where you know, to Sager's point, these are monarchies like these are not representative democracies.
And they've made some noise about oh the.
Palestinians, yes, we support it, to state, but they are populations who many of whom truly do support the Palestinian cause and truly are disgusted with the genocide in Palestine. And the you know, annexation of the West Bank and.
All of that.
They do not agree.
They see the fecklessness, they see the game that their leaders are playing. So you also start this war at a moment of a low point in regional public opinion, both about the UI and about Israel, which is why you know, you see multiple of our embassies being attacked, you know, in Pakistan, the fact that US marines were shooting civilians attacking the US embassy in Karachi. I mean, this in and of itself is just that one thing is an absolutely insane event. And then you've got you know,
mobs at the bag Dad embassy as well. I mean, this is this is a moment when most of the population in the region. Look, they're you know, typically not too crazy about US. They hate our freaking guts, and they hate the Israelis. And that's the moment when you're gonna ask to you know, them to bear the pain of their countries getting attacked. They're you know, the luxury hotels next to them getting blown up, and their governments
are on board with all of it. You're gonna have some you know, you're gonna have some local and we're already seeing that in Bahrain, which is why the riots are very significant.
Development that's going to be the first one to fall because they have the Shia population. But the rest of them, I mean, look, there's some there is a serious social contract. Right, you have no rights literally whatsoever. But you're gonna be rich.
But that rich.
Those riches come from oil, natural gas being this global playground.
Right.
All of these Indian laborers, I mean, how many of them are going to stick around? Like money's worth it up to a point before you think you're gonna die. And then if you have enough money, do they have enough money to continue paying them? I think I mentioned earlier the US embassy and riod is issuing this imminent threat of a missile attack over dah Ram, which is the seat of Saudi Aramco.
This is the lifeblood of these places.
The money is the only thing that flattens out all of the tensions in these people's societies. If it dries up, if it dries up by even thirty percent, it's catastrophe for these economies.
Rock is shut down oil production at the world's second largest oil field, which produces one point five million barrels of oil per day, amid escalating military activity, and the American government is telling Americans in the region you should get out, but we're not going to help you.
You're on your own.
Good.
Imagine being stuck in Israel and you're like, hey, how do I get out of here? And you have to go to the US ambassador's Twitter feed where he's giving you these minute instructions about how to catch a bus to the Sinai and then when you get to the Sinai, use this link which you have to pay to cross the border. And then when you cross the border, let's hope that you I mean, look, I've only been once, but I'm pretty sure that it's not a very big
airport in the middle of the Sinai peninsula. Are they going to be you know, there's seven hundred thousand Americans who live in or at least seven hundred thousand American citizens who live in Israel. Are they all going to be able to get out? And now imagine Dubai Doha. What Treta Parsi said there? Do we have that story about five times? Yeah, let's put that one up there. See five up there on the screen. Half of Dubai is booking. Expats are driving to Oman and Saudi Arabia
to try and to find flights. I said yesterday the going rate for a PJ out of Saudi Arabia right now is three hundred and fifty thousand for a single flight to be able to get out of the country. Trump's podcast advisor Alex bruceter Witz from the campaign, he got stuck in the Gulf, and he apparently had to talk with a bunch of friends, including like TikTok influencers or whatever, to charter a PJ to Greece to be able to get That's the only way out is you have to be able to get a private jet.
That's it.
And I bet you the premium is unbelievable. So unless you don't have that kind of money, you're stuck. You're stuck for a long time down there, and they're basically even the ambassador is saying openly he goes flights even when they do reopen, will be extremely limited and they will be disrupted for a significant period of time. It could be months that these people are completely stuck with missiles flying all over there.
Let's just put C seven up on the screen. This was some important reporting from drop site. We've got you know, we saw Iranian drones I think mostly that attacked various hotels throughout the golf And according to you know sources that DROPSDE are in touch with, they say some of the buildings and hotels that were hit were specifically housing Israeli or US personnel or intelligence operations, and that Iran pinpoint at the locations has really caught the Americans and
Israelis off guard, according to an Iranian official. So you know, this, that level of intelligence penetration too was apparently shocking to the Americans and to the Israelis. And let me say something like, you know, the Iranians are obviously attacking civilian infrastructure, or they're attacking hotels, they're attacking two data centers now have been taken out. They're you know, yeah, they're attack
and they're attacking the some of the oil infrastructure. You know, they're claiming some of that is incidental or they didn't mean to or whatever, but there is no doubt they're attacking civilian infrastructure. Like we have zero ground. I don't even hear anyone complain ABO because we have zero ground to stand on. Zero And that's the other thing, like, you know, when you talk about the Pandora's box that was opened by GASA, And what is now on the
table right is not just confined to us. We're not the only ones who are going to take advantage of this new law of the jungle where schools and mosques and hospitals and you know water zalinization plants and you know wastewater treatment plants, where that is all on the table. Our adversaries are going to take advantage of that as well.
And that has already already right now in this moment, that has put Americans at risk, and that's part of why they are being urged to flee the region immediately, being given no.
Help, no help in order to do that.
In those six Americans, you know, I think hag Seth, it's oh, they were in a fortified facility.
No, they weren't.
Bullshit, we just say they were in a triple wide trailer. That's what they were in.
They were in a triple wide trailer with concrete walls that were put in front of them because in their mind, they're protecting against suicide car like they called v BITS, like vehicle borne IED. It's not two thousand and five anymore, you know, the IED it comes from the air with a twenty thousand dollars drone which crashed directly into it's called a tactile operations center also known as a TALK and they all got bowned up. Imagine that a temporary
trailer totally unfortified. There's now an investigation as to why there weren't proper troops or there weren't proper air defenses or any of that put around them sitting down, it's I mean, it's beyond comprehension. These are six guys, their family. I mean, what are you going to tell their families? Who did they die for? What did they die? I hate to talk to that way, I really do, but I do think you know, we have to say it viscerally in the middle of a conflict. Otherwise is going
to get caught up in this Iraq war. Freedom isn't free level bullshit, and no, we're not doing that this time around. We're not going to let them do that to us, because that's how we lost thousands, tens of thousands who were maimed as well. It really is just absolutely sickening. Okay, we've got Scott Horton standing by. Let's get to it.