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10/31/24: Mike Johnson Says Obamacare Dead Under Trump, Bill Clinton Scolds Arab Voters, Stop The Steal 2.0 Breakdown

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Krystal and Saagar discuss Mike Johnson says Obamacare dead under Trump, Bill Clinton scolds Arab voters, stop the steal 2.0 breakdown. 

 

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Let's move on to some pretty noteworthy comments that are being made on the Republican side about their economic plans. We just got some footage of Mike Johnson talking about their plans to continue to undermine go after dismantle repeal, et cetera, the Affordable Care Act. Let's take a listen to how that went.

Speaker 3

Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, was campaigning in Pennsylvania in a House district and was talking about Obamacare. I think we have this exchange, let's play it.

Speaker 2

Healthcare reform is going to be a big part of the agenda.

Speaker 4

When I say we're going to have a very versus first hundred use agenda, we got a lot of things on the table.

Speaker 2

No Obamacare.

Speaker 4

It.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the ACA is so deeply ingrained. We need massive reform to make this work.

Speaker 4

And we got a lot of ideas.

Speaker 3

So he says, no Obamacare, says massive reform to the healthcare system.

Speaker 2

Obamacare is pretty popular.

Speaker 1

You know, this is one of those things saga. Obamacare is now at this point very popular. It's so popular they no longer call it Obamacare.

Speaker 5

They now call it the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 1

And healthcare is one of those issues that has been when you when you ask people what their top issues are, healthcare always ranks very high up there, and yet neither campaign has made it a focal point. The Harris campaign sometimes talks about like we're doucing prescription drug costs, but the bigger ambitions around even a public option like that is completely invisible. But Trump also has not talked about healthcare.

Last time around, he famously tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act and failed with the John McCain you know, coming and deciding he wasn't going to do it. And so you know, you still have the true believers like Mike Johnson, who is the Speaker of the House, who is you know, absolutely dedicated to repealing Thefordable Care Act.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I wouldn't say Obamacare is popular. I would more say that repealing protections in Obamacare is unpopular because there is a different I mean, if you look at it, people hate the healthcare system, which is basically that's true what it is, right, Yeah, but they hate Helcare, but.

Speaker 1

They don't want to go back either to what it was before because they want to maintain the coverge for pre existing conditions and some of those reforms that have been important.

Speaker 2

That is the key. I mean, but in general, if you ask people are like, do you like your healocritism? No, our healthcare prices too?

Speaker 4

Hi?

Speaker 2

Yes, you know, like if you go down the yea absolutely. Let me think that's what Republicans always delude themselves into thinking that they'll be able to do. I mean, just recall twenty eighteen blowout midterm election almost entirely because of the ACA vote. You can ask any of the Republican candidates, specifically in the swing states, every single one of them blame the vote on repealing the Affordable Care Act as one of the reasons they're lost. Martha McSally down in Arizona.

That's literally why Christen Cinema is in the Senate, which is kind of wild to think about. This does get to a broader question though, of what the hell is going to happen if Donald Trump does win. Let's put this up there on the screen and you can basically find the signs for whatever you want. So currently this is in the New York Times called the group at the center of Trump's planning for a second term. Is when you have not heard of I have heard of this.

I did a monologue aout of years ago. It's called the America First Policy Institute. It is run by a woman's whose name is Brooke Rollins. She was the ran the Domestic Policy Council under Trump while he was in the White House. This is one of those institutions which has like Larry Kudlow and others on the board.

Speaker 5

Huge She founded it with Larry Cudlow.

Speaker 2

That's right, So I got Larry Cudlow. Linda McMahon, who is an official part former small business under Donald Trump now part of the transition team under Donald Trump. Also very influential on that. You got a lot of billionaire donors. If things go in this direction, where Brooke Rollins, for example, becomes the chief of staff, which had been floated there in the past. We have a very clear sign of like what the so called like corporate direction is going

to look like for the Trump administration the second time around. Now, the other countercase I guess to all of this is that you do have factions, like within the Trump campaign itself, of people who are not happy with Brooke Rollins or do not agree with her direction. For example, Brooke Rollins and kind of her ilk were very hard and pushing against Jade Vance is the vice presidential pick. Now, clearly he will be there in the White House if they

do win. So will he you know, I mean, why would you want somebody like that who literally ran the chief of staff? It could set up a fight around that. You have Johnny mcintee as well previously, who worked in the Trump administration. PPO had been attached to Project twenty twenty five. But I think he's gotten more of a past than everybody else's attached to Projective.

Speaker 5

I've not the dude who just said that women shouldn't be able to vote.

Speaker 2

Well, he made a joke about that on this TikTok Chris, that is correct. Yeah, he runs left really hard. I forget exactly what his channel is called it's like something date right or something like. Anyway, he's got a lot of followers on TikTok, that's all. I know that guy. Those people could very much not agree with Brook Rollins.

But I'm setting people up here for if an eventual Trump wins, there are going to be some absolutely titanic fights kind of around who's going to staff the White House specifically, like what the foreign policy vision will be. On the economic you know, you're gonna have Steve Bannon, who's very much like opposed to this type of wing of the party. Will he be allowed back in there?

Will Rollins be the one that is there. It can really set us up for some twenty seventeen era fights like there were between like Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon in the White House, or Gary Kohene and Steve Bannon, or you know, Peter Navarro and Steve Mnusan. I know this is probably ancient history some people, but those were very, very consequential for their policy direction that the Trump White House eventually ended up going in.

Speaker 1

I mean, I think there are a few things we can already say for sure. I mean, they're going to extend the tax cuts and jobs.

Speaker 2

I like, that's like not a question.

Speaker 1

Now, the significant tax break for billionaires, for corporations, the wealthiest among us, I think the choice, you know, the centering of Elon Musk is also incredibly significant. Elon is like this, you know, hardcore, like let's cut two trillion dollars from federal government spending, which by the way, is more than all of the federal government discretionary budget.

Speaker 5

He is a fan of Javier Malay, who.

Speaker 1

Is like this, you know, positions himself as an arco capitalist down in Argentina, and he's talking about how he wants to put the country through this sort of like economic shock therapy that is going to be deeply painful in the short term. I played some of this in my monologue the other day that you can listen to, but just for people who didn't catch it. He said in one of I think this was in one of

the like Twitter live things or whatever. He talked about how Trump's agenda needs is going to cause hardship, temporary hardship, but.

Speaker 5

That is necessary. Let's take a.

Speaker 6

Listen to that as produce spending to look within our means, And yeah, that necessarily both some some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long term prosperity.

Speaker 1

He sort of reemphasized this in another exchange on too it can put d five guys up on the screen where you have this one Twitter user. He's laying on out what he thinks is going to happen in a Trump term. He says, if Trump succeeds enforcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit, there will be an initial severe overreaction.

Speaker 5

In the economy.

Speaker 1

This economy, propped up with debt and artificially suppressed wages, markets will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we're on sounder footing, there will be a rapid

recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy. History could be made in the coming two years, to which Elon Musk, who again is the plan is to put him in charge of this, you know, massive government oversight agency, says sounds about right, so effectively like, yeah, we're going to cause a severe market crash and depression in the short term, no problem, which, by the way, is what's happening in Argentina right now.

Speaker 2

Well, I was going to say, like that's honest, and I support that, actually support honesty, I support just being real with people. I've said it here before. Mass deport the program though of mass husteria. Well, first of all, no, because first of all, it's also not gonna happen. I tweeted this yesterday. We all need to stop pretending that Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are going to vote for a two trillion dollar budget cut. It's never gonna happen.

If anything, they're gonna increase defense spending. I will call it here right now. The deficit will go up under Donald Trump. They will extend the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, they will increase military spending. They will maybe cut discretionary spending by one or two percent, which is like point zero zero one percent of the overall federal budget. They won't touch entitlements, SOLI, security and Medicare funding, et cetera.

Will continue, and he will end. If he does win an office with a significantly bigger picture of the on the deficit that looks exactly like it is today, I will call it here. There's no way any Republican or Donald Trump administration will go in a different direction on mass deportation. Fisher King is correct. I mean, look, this gets to the heart of the entire debate. It is probably good for overall top line GDP to have mass

immigration and specifically illegal immigrants. That's true if you look at human beings as literally amic utils, and yes, there will obviously be a market correction. I've been honest about that before. I think people who support mass deportation should as well. The question is what type of society do you want to live in and what type of overall economy. It's definitely not good for overall GDP necessarily to have higher wages for people who do construction like that's obviously

going to increase quote unquote prices. Yes, it's true. We should all be honest if you support that policy. Now, do you think that's better in the long run, Yes, I absolutely do. I mean I can't sit here and say that tariffs are going to lower prices for everybody, but I think it's good. I think it's important. You know that washing machines are TVs that cost four hundred dollars if you buy it for six hundred, but happens to be able to mate here. Yeah, I think it's

worth it. Is it easy for me to say, absolutely, you can vote your conscience and do whatever you want. But that's kind of where I look at it. So, first of all, the Elon two trillion thing, again, it will never happen. It's almost not even worth taking seriously, like, especially in a divided government or even with Donald Trump.

Look at the past record in terms of what the deficit happened in terms of spending, like, there is no indication that any of this happened, even if Elon is in charge of what does it called the Department of Government Government.

Speaker 1

Efficient sage in order to promote his crypto favorite crypto.

Speaker 2

Hey, I'm still pro doge. I'm still holding disgusting, I'm still holding on myself.

Speaker 5

I mean, I guess, uh. There's a couple of things.

Speaker 1

So, first of all, I think it's noteworthy that Trump himself has embraced this austerity politics, which is the you know, old school Paul Ryan Republican position, but.

Speaker 2

It is popular too. People hate the federal government.

Speaker 5

They like, yeah, they like the idea of it.

Speaker 1

When it comes down to it, and it's your social when it's your social security and medicare whatever get slashed,

that's another matter entirely. So that's number one, and number two is I do think it's a strange argument to be like, you know, uh, you should support this program because it's not you're going to support this candidate who embraces this program because the program he's pushing for isn't actually going to happen, and you know, so you don't get to pick and choose, like the parts that you

like and don't like. And this is what a lot of the business community, by the way, has done with Trump, where it's like, well, we don't really think he's going to do the terrorists that are going to affect us. We don't really think he's going to do the mass deportation.

We don't really think he's going to do these other things. Maybe, but maybe he is going to like lower you know, he probably is get to lower my taxes and the pieces that I like that are going to be good for me in my business he is going to do. And I think we have to take them at their word.

So in any case, it's significant that Trump, who previously you know, sort of positioned himself against normal Republican austerity politics of the Paul Ryan Tea Party era, has now embraced Elon's idea of slashing two trillion dollars from the federal government budget, which again sounds all well and good until you realize that is more than all discretionary spending and would have a huge impact on basically every single

federal government program, including ones that are very important to people.

Speaker 5

Let's take a listen to that.

Speaker 1

Your role for Elon b Elon Musk has a lot of roles he could take because he's a very exceptional guy, but he is a thing. He feels there's such waste, fraud, and abuse in our budgets, and he's right. So I'm curious, Hacker, do you feel like there's been a shift in Trump's economic positioning? No, because I mean this is very different from the way he positioned himself.

Speaker 2

That that message is actually quite popular now. When it comes down to it, people hate the government. People think it's inefficient. It is inefficient. The Pentagon literally can't pass an audit like in terms of cutting and all that. There are certainly places that we could cut, but it's not all that popular amongst Republicans when it comes down to it, when appropriations happen and an actual federal budget, again, you have to answer this question, do you think two

trillion dollars is going to get cut. Not in a million years. Is Donald Trump going to cut Social Security and Medicare? No? Absolutely not? Is what is Donald Trump and the Republicans Congress actually going to pass TCJA? And maybe if there's a Democratic House, they'll do some child tax credit bargain to get that through. Half CTC, half TCJA extension, some corporate tax cuts and others are going to get left on the table, and the deficit it's going to go up. Like this is where we have

to be real. Even if Evon was in charge of the so called Department of Government Efficiency, Like again, mechanically, people need to understand how the government works. What are you gonna do. You're gonna ask the GAO, the Government Accountability Office, to commission some blue ribbon report or whatever that's going to bring back to you. It's going to take a year to give you report about what can

be cut and what's not. But again, the way that we know how government works is Congress has to sign off on every single appropriation and the executive has basically zero authority outside of some very narrow definitions about what they can and can't spend money on. Unless the Congress literally agrees to it. So like this is where you're saying, like, can't pick and choose. I'm not picking and choosing. I'm being like totally real about what this will look like.

And frankly, this gets to a little bit of something annoys me is Silicon Valley arrogance around the government where they just claim things like you can cut two trillion dollars. I'm like, you don't know anything about Washington, Like if you think that that's going to happen. The people who are correct are the Wall Street guys who are like, yeah, there's no way that across the board tariff is going to happen, which is again true because it would take

an Act of Congress. At best, you'll have soybeans, steel, and crops get hit with tariffs again, which is what happened last time, or critical medals or whatever like they can in the Commerce Department, how our taxes are probably going to go down, and they're correct like that is because that's a fullsome picture of Donald Trump plus the Republican Congress. If they have united government, and even if they have divided government, some version of that is going

to get through. So this is just like a very realistic view of what this looks like. And if you believe the Elon's going to cut two trillion dollars, you're an idiot. Honestly.

Speaker 1

How do you feel about the closing pitch of the campaign of We're going to repeal the Affordable Care Act and crush the Yeah.

Speaker 2

That's stupid. Okay, Well, in terms of the Affordable Care Act, that's actually the dumbest one. On mass immigration, people do support mass deportation, specifically Republicans, but on the issue of Affordable Care Act, wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll. And it certainly does get to the political genius of Mike Johnson. But look, people who are out there, you should also be honest. Yeah, that's what Republicans support, you know, the mean, mean median Republican in Congress. They want to

repeal the Affordable Care Acts. So if you care about that, you should definitely consider that whenever you're voting. I'm not going to sit here in cover for them. They're idiots in terms of what they think.

Speaker 1

All right, let's go ahead and move on to the latest comments from Bill Clinton on the campaign trail stumping for Kamala Harris in the state of Michigan and talking about his view of Israel's war in Gaza, let's go ahead.

Speaker 4

And play that. I have to be careful what I say because there's only one president at a time, and none of us can get ahead of where we're going. But I think we're going to have to essentially start again on the peace process. And I understand why young Palestinian and Arab Americans in Michigan, I think too many

people have died since. I get that. But if you lived in one of those kiboots them in Israel, right next to Gaza, where the people there were the most pro friendship with Palestine, most pro two state solution of any of the Israeli communities were the ones right next to Gaza, and Hamas butchered them. And so then the people who criticized it are essentially said, yeah, but look how many people you've killed in Retalent, So how many is enough for you to kill to punish them for

the terrible things they did. That all sounds nice until you realize what would you do if it was your family and you hadn't done anything but support a homeland for the Palacinians and one day they come for you and slaughter the people in your village. You would say, well, you will have to forgive me. I'm not keeping score that way. It isn't how many we've had to kill, because Hamas make sure that they're shielded by civilians. They'll force you to kill civilians if you want to defend yourself.

Speaker 1

Andy went on from there. So basically, nothing is Israel's fault. The unbelievable devastation that we've seen in Gaza, where it's just total annihilation, every building, school, moss, hospital, etc. The kids buried under the rubble, the starvation, whatever, none of it is Israel's fault. Is just all the fault of Hamas, who you know, are the ones that use Palestinians as human shields, and so therefore it's all it's all justified,

it's all just self defense. Which at this point, if you are still arguing that this is just self defense, like I just I don't know what to tell you, because we're talking about not just Gaza. We're talking about the West Bank, we're talking about Lebanon, we're talking about Syria, we're talking about Iran, Like, how many.

Speaker 5

Places do you have to attack?

Speaker 1

Actually, I just saw an analysis this morning saga that there's been over a thousand buildings in Lebanon destroyed, which you know has wella didn't have anything to do and the Lebanese people certainly didn't have anything to do with the October seventh attacks. So from a political perspective, this

was in Michigan. This is the place where the Harris campaign, you know, has been trying to improve their standing with groups of voters that have understandably fled them Er of American and Muslim American voters in particular.

Speaker 5

But by the way, you know, I don't like.

Speaker 1

When we keep it that because there are vast loss of the Democratic base, including young voters, including non white voters who are deeply concerned on a moral basis about Kamala Harris's support for this gemicydle policy visa Vigaza. And here you have Bill Clinton in this critical swing state. You know, definitely not the message that they want to be putting out there.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, it's just very much like an old man moment takes to the campaign trail. Certainly. Yeah, there's a lot to say I think about just in terms of like Biden and Clinton and a lot of the flashbacks I know, why they have these nineties politicians.

Speaker 5

Campaigning for them.

Speaker 2

I don't know. I mean, look, he's he was a great I mean, he was very popular. He's one of the most effective politicians of all time.

Speaker 5

But he's old.

Speaker 2

Now he is old.

Speaker 5

I mean he has lost many steps.

Speaker 2

It was McDonald's when he stopped eat McDonald's and he went vegan, like whenever he gave that up after his like fifth Quinn Tipple bypass or whatever.

Speaker 5

Yeah, he was causing problems for Hillary back into.

Speaker 2

Lack.

Speaker 1

Voters said like Obamas should be getting his coffee and like that.

Speaker 5

Remember, yeah, I do.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it was a South Carolinas eight.

Speaker 1

It's been a minute since this man was effective out on the campaign trail, and you're still rolling his old ass out, Like what are we really doing here? Just in terms of strategy. He is younger than Joe Biden though.

Speaker 2

Yeah, wild true?

Speaker 4

Is he?

Speaker 7

I think?

Speaker 5

Guess maybe he's like the same age as Trump.

Speaker 2

I think he's seventy eight. Yes, he must be there, right, yeah, hold on, that makes sense.

Speaker 1

Let me look, Yes, seventy eight though, the same age, right, incredible. Trump kept eating the McDonald's and Bill Clinton went away, and you know it was a big.

Speaker 2

Misakeake McDonald's actually is a key part of the American president.

Speaker 5

I just don't get the porter right now.

Speaker 2

The more unhealthy that you are, the better president that you are in my opinion. All Right, but let's continue with the Israel stuff. There's actually an interesting story I wanted to highlight. Let's put this up there on the screen from the Times of Israel where Trump apparently, according to that Israeli sources, told Netanyah, who he wants the

Gaza war over by the time he enters office. He said, according to Nettyah, who's several times, win the war quickly, do whatever you need to do, but basically you need to wrap it up by the time that I take office, because he doesn't want to deal with the political and the geopolitical fallout of that situation. Now obviously kind of a difficult prospect because what it would mean would be ending the Lebanon incursion. Ending I mean, how do you what does even the end of quote unquote war in

Gaza even look like? Because that would require a literal withdrawal.

Speaker 1

And that's that is the key piece right there. Ryan and Normally had a very interesting guest on yesterday I encourage every ready to listen because what Boebe is hoping is because I mean, I think it's pretty clear Bbe would like Trump to win. The overwhelming majority of Israelis would like Trump to win. Like it's the polling is not even really all that close, and the question isn't okay?

You know, at some point the you know, the aggressive level of bombing that we've seen, at some point that ends and then what comes next?

Speaker 5

And Bbe, in order to keep his.

Speaker 1

Coalition together, effectively needs to resettle Gaza. Like That's what Ben Gavier and Smotrich very affirmatively want, That's what other LIQUD party ministers have been going to these resettlement conferences. And the concern from Bibi is that Kamala may actually now you can you know, have they drawn any real hard ladlines now at this point noo, but may actually make the moves to keep them from resettling Gaza. And if he's not able to do that, then his coalition

effectively falls apart. So we know Trump is He's talked about you know, water for Kushner talked about Gaza's waterfront property and potential development possibilities. We know that Mary Maddilson as part of condition for her overwhelming massive support in dollars for Donald Trump, wants to be able also to annex the West Bank. So, you know, I think part of the game here in terms of what Bibe wants out of this political context is and out of this

political contest, is what comes next? Am I allowed to just move forward with resettlement and ethnic cleansing or is there going to be any sort of opposition whatsoever in.

Speaker 5

The White House to that?

Speaker 2

I think really what Trump is Trump doesn't care necessarily about that situation. But for him and his people, they just don't want to deal literally with the ongoing war, and so they're like, look, man, you need to speed it up. And by the way, it's beneficial to them because it causes problems for the Democratic candidate. Kamala can't even do an event without getting interrupted by Gaza protests.

At this point, Let's go next to jd Vance Spoke made some interesting crypto comments where if you read between the lines, the pro Israel lobby won't be too happy about this one. On the Tim Dillon Show. Let's take a listen to that e too, please.

Speaker 7

Obviously, you know Israel has the right to defend itself. But America's interest is sometimes going to be distinct, like sometimes we're going to have overlapping interests and sometimes we're going to have distinct interests. And our interest, I think very much is in not going to war with Iran. We recognize, okay, Israeli's Golfareb states don't like Iran. So let the Israelis and the golf Arab states provide the counterbalance to Iran. America does and have to constantly police

every region of the world. We should empower people to police their own regions of the world. Right and one. We would save a lot of money too, We'd save a lot of focus. But unfortunately, I think Harris she's got this weird thing where I actually think she kind of likes war. Maybe she feels like she feels like a tough guy about it.

Speaker 2

I don't know why it is.

Speaker 7

But they've actually pursued even though they say they want to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties, they pursued the pathway that maximizes those casualties. They say that they're pro Israel, they've pursued the pathway that has prolonged the war as long as possible, which is bad for Israel, and they seem to be sort of sleep walking US into war with Iran.

Speaker 2

It's like the dumbest of all possible worlds. Hmm, all right, what did you make of that? Well, it's like a crypto that, by the way, is about as close as you're ever going to get too to some quasi Israel criticism or whatever in a world where Miriam Madelson's shelling out the big dollars buzz I appreciate it.

Speaker 1

True, I mean, I think it is is clear that the Trump campaign has been much smarter in pursuing a strategy of trying to persuade key demographic groups that they would that you know, they're a placed that they can go if they're disgusted. Now, I think if we look at Trump's comments, for one thing.

Speaker 5

They are not in line with They're very different.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they're not in line with what Jad's saying, shall we put it, trying to use this Palestinian as a slur. Trump thinks that Israel should strike Iranian nuclear facilities, which you know, would help to escalate the war in the region. Trump is very hawkish, extremely hawkish because of the Iran when he was president so the idea that he had any instinct towards withdrawing from the region is just you know, I mean, especially in terms of conflict with Iran, is

just not really true. Actually, Jade Vance, one of the things in the vetting document was that he was critical of Trump on his assassination of customs solo money.

Speaker 5

Jad was right about that, by the way.

Speaker 1

And so you know, when you look at the totality of the mess coming out from the Trump from the Trump campaign, most of it is very much in line with Mary Maddeilson, Rudy Giuliani, Trump himself. You know, the problem is that Biden's holding them back. You don't hear too much of the perspective that's being offered here from jade Vance, where he correctly, by the way, points out that even if you are just narrowly trying to pursue the interests of Israel, this has been damaging. Yeah, I mean,

the country economically has suffered greatly. The governing coalition is you know, constantly on the brink of collapse. You have massive foreign direct investment that is fleeing the country. You have people, human beings who have left the country, and you know, contrary to the idea that all of this war making throughout the region is going to make israelis

any safer. It's only put them at more risk because now you still have people who are evacuated from northern Israel who are unable to return and know one insight with that either. So I mean, he is correct in that point. I just don't think that that is the I don't think that that is the view of Trump.

It's certainly not the view of Trump's donors. And you know, Trump is happy to sort of let people go out and freelance whatever they think is going to be effective to appeal to that audience in the moment, doesn't necessarily reflect any sort.

Speaker 5

Of a broader ship.

Speaker 1

But they've been much much more intentional about trying to do you know, the Muslim outreach and the Arab American outreach, especially in the state of Michigan.

Speaker 5

And that shows and the polling numbers.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're absolutely right. In fact, we have evidence of that strategy. Can we put E four please up on the screen here? You had a letter from Trump. He said to the Lebanese American community, during my administration, we had peace in the Middle East. We will have peace again. Soon. I will fix problems caused by Kamala and stop the suffering and destruction in Lebanon. I want to see the Middle East return to real peace, a lasting piece, and we will get it done properly so it doesn't repeat

itself every five or ten years. So that obviously directed at the Michigan American vote. And it's interesting too because the Trump campaign is basically like scrolling through ethnic minorities, yeah, and then releasing letters to it, which look, maybe it's the correct way, not the way I would like to see politics. But he had another post where he's like, to all the Coptic Christians out there, I will stand

up for you in the Middle East. I will make sure that we will not what was the whole Azerbaijan thing, you know, Ozer by joh Oser a ZERI uh, you know, aggression on between Azerbaijohn and Armenia. But my point is just that he seems to be just scrolling through these like subgroups and just putting out a lever where you know it could it really could be impactful.

Speaker 1

I mean, I guess if he sees the election that way, then that explains why they don't like the Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2

Yes, I agree with you. Again, this is not how I think politics should be, Like do your Lebanese Americans or whatever, let me do policy based on your homeland. I think it's a little weird.

Speaker 1

But you know, I mean, it's frankly more something that you saw, Like it feels very Democrats in twenty six, like let me put out a letter and have on stage someone from your specific like demographic identity group. Feels like the direction that the Trump campaign is going in. But you know, with regard to Arab Americans, Muslim Americans less so young people who I think you know, are either going to vote for Jill Stein by and large

or they're just not going to vote. I think obviously there's a huge opening here that is no one's fault but Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden and the horrific policy that they have pursued, which has been deeply destructive and deeply immoral, and which she has been unable to separate herself on.

And then you know, you have people like Bill Clinton who go out there and say the things that he says, and it's not really even though he said the quiet part out loud, but his comments are perfectly in line with the Biden administration strategy and the way that they've approached things like that is the position is Israel always, no matter or what Israel does, we'll stand by them. It's always that self defense. It's never their fault. The

civilian death is never their fault. They bear absolutely no culpability whatsoever, even and we bear no culpability even though it's our bombs being sent, et cetera, et cetera. So you know, Bill Clinton is out there effectively articulating, just in a more clear cut fashion, what the actual policy of Biden Harris has been.

Speaker 2

Definitely, let's move on to Stop the Steal. Wanted to do this segment. We'll round it out today. We think we will try and make this a consistent part of the theme if Trump does end up losing the election. I'm sure you're going to hear a lot more about this. But one of the things you did last time back in twenty twenties, we just went through every single, like major claim around stop the Steal, every lawsuit, what the adjudication was, what the litigation looks like, what the judge ruling,

what the claims. So we're going to start first with Donald Trump He made some comments while he was doing the garbage thing around the election. Let's take a list so.

Speaker 5

From statuside which heart would be defatient, but not say that the election was stolen.

Speaker 4

It was if it was a corrupt election, that could happen.

Speaker 6

But so far we're doing pretty well.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 6

They found a lot.

Speaker 4

Of smaller things in Pennsylvania's you know, and I think they've been corrupted and uh and taken care of they were they were corrupt. They were corrupted, but I think it's been taken care of.

Speaker 2

You called for law enforcement. I was gonna say, you anticipate to declare victory on election night. I hope they're we're going to declare victory. I mean they spend all that money on machines.

Speaker 3

Paper ballots goes to eight percent, a water machine goes eight percent.

Speaker 2

All right, so there you go, and said maybe, you know, in terms of we'll look out for if it's a corrupt election, but I don't think it'll be a corrupt election.

Speaker 1

Nonetheless, there also he also put out on true social Pennsylvania is cheating and getting caught at large scale levels rarely seen before. Report cheating to authorities. Law enforcement must act now. So I mean, you know, we laid out the he is clearly and Republicans in general are trying to lay the groundwork of like this if we don't win. It was stolen, right, it was rigged, And there's a lot more concerted effort in advance to lay that groundwork

than there was last time around. You can go watch our segment about how this could all go down, the things that make it. You know, this sort of premeditated and very well funded. By the way effort in advance is something that is actually worse than last time around. On the other hand, you know, the Electoral Account Act. Donald Trump is not the president of the United States, so that puts, you know, a lot on the other

side of the scale. But it's very clear what he's trying to lay the groundwork to do, which you know, also with regards to this Pennsylvania thing, and Pennsylvania has been a big focus on the right side, I'm sure e's seen as well, Like you know, this kind of bit them in the ass previously in Georgia when they were running in these runoff elections, both of which they lost after Trump had just lost because there was so much conversation about how the vote had been rigged and

the election was stolen, et cetera, et cetera, that they depressed their own turnout because people felt like, oh, well, if it's just going to be stolen, like why bother vote whatsoever. So there is a risk in advance, too, of trying to in advance convinced voters that like, oh, this thing is rigged and people are cheating at large scale levels rarely seen before.

Speaker 2

As Trump says in his true social press Right, So let's go through. So did a roundup on social media of all the big controversions. We're going to start with this one. Let's put this up there from Michigan. This is from the Michigan Secretary of State, Joscelyn Benson. Now, according to the Secretary of State of Michigan, there are quote issues with dominion voter access terminals and counties that use them. In the voter access terminal, specifically, it appears

with the terminals that are handicapped assisting. Now, voters using this on election day will either have to vote straight ticket or manualists put their ballot. Unlike how Michigan voters usually have the option to select straight party option and then override their party selection for certain races. Benson said that this was an issue that has frustrated officials in

places where these machines are used. Quote. I think all of us who use MISSI dominion machines were unhappy to learn about this during the testing period as early voting began. So we are working to seek accountability on that front and working with our clerks to ensure voters are aware

of this programming issue. Again, this appears to be what is it in the assisted ballot casting part of the area from early voting, So it's not all but of course wanted to go ahead and flag it here, and it is one that has already been acknowledged by the Secretary of State, of course, and then also has been a nationwide thing that said I don't know, you can look at it either way. People sent it and were like, well,

this is evidence that there's problems. I'm like, yeah, But I mean, if your evidence of a quote unquote problem or cheating, why would then the Secretary of State come out and acknowledge it and say that we are working on it. So look, nobody's going to sit here and claim that there's no issues or whatever. But it almost seems like the opposite where they're coming out acknowledging in the future talking about this quote unquote fix and exactly

which type of ballots it can affect. So regardless, you can just say that's the explanation for what it is, and if it comes, you know, in the future a subject to some loss or whatever, this is the origin.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's that's a great point. It's also not clear which side this would theoretically benefit. The idea is just like it makes it those particular machines make it more difficult to split ticket instead of just straight D or straight R. So again it's not really even clear which side that would potentially benefit. But it just makes it more cumbersome for people who are voting at these disabled access terminals, which is unfortunate but not cheating.

Speaker 5

It's just like more cumbersome for them.

Speaker 1

And I think it's smart that she announced this in advance to sort of pre but any potential allegations after the fact.

Speaker 2

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, by the way, an election to election lecture for election people just say it all out in the future and avoid the mess of next time. Let's go to the next part. Let's put this up there on the screen. This was another big one. You probably saw it everywhere ABC News sixteen WNEP the affiliate

people were saying, look, they already called it for Kamala Harris. Well, the alleged response or the reason for why they had this what was a reporting for Harris and Trump that showed up in the middle of a Formula one race on ESPN ABC affiliate was that there was some graphics testing package that they were doing that appeared to have

up on the screen. I also think we should just interrogate, like the We should just interrogate the thought process here, Like, is the thought process that the media is going to rig the election by pre calling it for Harris and they're going to work then with the Secretary of State and Pennsylvania to just put up fake numbers. And why would you then do a dry run ahead of time? Like what is the logical explant? This is where the low IQ nature of this stuff honestly just driving me crazy.

What is more likely a graphics thing or a concerted effort by w NEP to pre call the election? Like what world do you think living in here? All right? And look, I already know there's gonna be some butt hurt Republicans in the comments being like ooh, fake whatever. But it's like, look, be real with yourself. If you believe that, honestly, you're an idiot, Like I don't know

what else to tell you. Yeah, if you really believe that that is a concerted effort to like steal the election by WNP ABC affiliate who put up the wrong graphic. Because local news graphics teams are of course the most crack in the business. I'm just like, what are we doing here? Is this just me working and working here to know? So obviously, how many times do you watch the show and the wrong graphic goes up on.

Speaker 1

This right, as people who have put up for wrong graphics plenty of times in the room, no offense, It's true. It happens the best of us. As someone who's been part of network like MSNBC election coverage, all of the networks, you know, they preload fake election results in order to test out like how it looks state by state and make sure there's stuff is running. In fact, we just did a test here, Mac and Griffin did a test of our election graphics literally yesterday, guys.

Speaker 2

And it could have been mistakenly put on YouTube, you know, only they uploaded uploaded.

Speaker 1

They uploaded the clip but for you know, I guess private or whatever only, but you know, very easy to accidentally click the wrong thing and it goes public and then oh my god, we're part of the election conspiracy. So just to ask yourself, Aukham's razor, which is more likely. At the same time, we have had some a few wild incidents occurring at polling stations during the early vote.

Speaker 5

We can put this up on the screen.

Speaker 1

A machete wielding young Trump supporter was arrested on a variety of charges for menacing people who were going to vote. Believe this occurred in Florida, so they held a Neptune Beach Police Department held a media briefing following the rest of man in connection with an armed disturbance that occurred

at the Beaches Branch Library, a polling location. You can see him there with the Trump signs and the machete and I don't know what he thought he was doing, but it was pretty, uh, menacing, stupid and illegal.

Speaker 2

So he was arrested.

Speaker 5

Good work with that, so and he was arrested.

Speaker 2

He was arrested.

Speaker 1

This one, Yeah, this is really wild. Put this up on the screen. So this dude who ran for I believe Congress. Yes in uh this is Kansas City. So former GOP candidate he stole ballots in They describe a scheme to create controversy so effectively, he got invited because he's sort of like a local you know, guys well known, he ran for Congress, etcetera, et cetera. So he got invited to this public test they were doing of their

election system. Part of the test was to demonstrate to the public, like, this is all clean and free and fair, and we've got an organized system, et cetera. So he goes to this test and it was livestream the whole thing, so people could see everything that was happening, which is how he got caught. And he stole two ballots, folded them up and put them in his pocket, and then starts whispering to someone like, oh, the count of the ballots is wrong.

Speaker 5

I think they're missing some ballots, blah blah blah.

Speaker 1

After he was the one who stole the ballots, and since it was on the live stream, he got caught. But before he was caught and people went back through the live stream and saw this all happen, he went on a Facebook live and was talking about how, oh, there's election fraud and there's short multiple ballots, blah blah blah.

Again because he's the one that stole the ballots. So this was an effort to, you know, try to create a narrative about how the election's rigged and it's stolen and you can't trust the results blah blah blah.

Speaker 5

And this guy got caught.

Speaker 1

Red handed being the one doing the ballot manipulation and you know, stealing these ballots during the test.

Speaker 5

So amazing stuff.

Speaker 2

Two more election updates. There was one that came out of Michigan. There was allegedly there was some one voter id where multiple voter IDs have been linked to duplicate ballots in Michigan. The Michigan Secretary of State is confirmed to the RNC that those duplicates will not be counted,

and it was a glitch in the system. You know, if anything, the infrastructure at this point for election integrity and all that is so gigantic on the Republican side, hundreds of billions of dollars have now been spent on this with watchdogs, lawsuits, lawsuits, lawyers and all these other people that they are watching and investigating almost every single thing, so we will continue to do so, and in almost every case you're either been responsive or whatever, or it

just turned out to be total bullshit. The other one that has come up now is the judge has extended mail balloting in Bucks County. There was a whole lawsuit about this. I just thought I would mention it where they were trying to close early voting at I think it was a deadline of five pm on October twenty nine. The judge their rule that violated Pennsylvania election Code and that they will then extend normal early voting for normal business hours before the close of business on November one.

So I guess you still have a day and a half or so to go and to take it advantage of that they are in terms of the timeframe. I think they also limited it from eight am to five pm. But yeah, there you go, so look into that if you live in Bucks County, PA. Beautiful place by the way, New Hope, Pennsylvania. Yeah.

Speaker 1

I think overall, one thing we noted last time is that the election apparatus really is a patchwork. You really are dependent on these individual local counties to run this election. And so of course there are going to be anomalies.

There are going to be glitches. There are go every election, there's you know, people are upset because they had to wait in line too long or they feel that you know, there's always there are every election, there are going to be some issues that crop up because it's human beings trying to do a thing on mass and jurisdictions across the entire country at a time of a lot of

heightened anxiety, tension, et cetera. So just take all of that in because there is something that is you know, goes awry or whatever, they don't have enough ballots, whatever happens, that is not evidence of a mass coordinated scheme.

Speaker 5

It's evidence that human beings.

Speaker 1

Are fallible and there are there will be some technical issues in glitches on election day. That is I can tell you with one hundred percent the case.

Speaker 2

Right, and ye, look, if it does look connected, if you can prove it, send me the evidence. I'd love to see it. Please. I beg you to send it to me. If we give it's the story of the century. If you could prove it, send it. I'll take a look. Yeah. And then just last thing on that, because everyone's always like going Oh, why can't we be like Brazil or France or India. Well, because we have this little thing

called federalism. So you should ask yourself, do you really want the federal government to run all elections in this country? Absolutely not, No, we don't want that. I don't want that at least us. Well that's well, that's a different story in terms of rule, but I'm saying in terms of running it, you're running the overall election. That's a terrible idea and is the absolute antithesis of the electoral college and specifically of federalism itself. So that's how it's

always been. I think it's probably better, if anything, the decentral system certainly as its annoyances in terms of why it takes forever and all of that. But the alternative, you know, in a French or an Indian or whatever system, is that the government itself is the one that runs it, which obviously is a massive conflict of interest there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yes, indeed, But yeah, I would like I personally would like to see federal set like consistent rules institute across the jurisdiction so that everybody has.

Speaker 5

The same rules when it comes to mail in ballot or Yeah, voter early, in person, voterize.

Speaker 1

Like let's just have yeah, the convicted, you know, felons, Like, let's just have it be standard so that you don't have the right to vote in one state but not have the right to vote in another, which I personally think is preposterous, but in any case, that's.

Speaker 2

The system we have. All right, Uh, that was fun.

Speaker 5

Yeah, we'll see show tomorrow.

Speaker 1

Ron Emily, We're going to do a little remote like election preview thing so we can break down whatever comes out today, latest polls, et cetera.

Speaker 5

So make sure to join us for that.

Speaker 2

That's right, we'll see then.

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