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Indeed, we do lots going on this week.
Ron DeSantis officially out of the presidential campaign.
Can't say that we didn't call it, but.
Anyway certainly called it.
We lot's to get into you there. We also have some intrigue on the Democratic side. Dean Phillips, at least according to one poll, may be surging in New Hampshire. Biden's having to waged this weird writing campaign but also pretend like it's not campaigning.
So we'll tell you about those dynamics as well.
And then, of course, there are a lot of updates with regard to Israel and the broader war that now is in full of fact. We've gotten use that the Biden administration is planning for a sustained military campaign against the hoo thasel though don't call it a war, even though what is exactly the war if it's not just
continuing to bomb and exchange hostilities with another actor. Anyway, we'll get into that and bb Netanyahu continues to humiliate the Biden administration once again, proclaiming I don't know why this is a mystery to anyone, that he is absolutely opposed to the establishment of a pales demane state. This comes on the heels of Biden insisting that he thinks somehow he's going to be able to persuade Bibe that they should actually have a two state solution.
We'll tell you about that.
I'm taking a look at Malaya's speech at the World Economic Forum. Sager is taking a look at some mysteries surrounding that pipe bomb outside of the DNC headquarters back on January sixth.
So a lot of intrigue this morning.
Yeah, that's right. Also, don't forget Shelby Talcott should be joining us from Semopore, so that'll be fun. We've got a guest in the show. I got two monologues. Lots of things are going on here. Fact, we also have a discount currently going on for our election season. We can put it up there on the screen. Guys, you can go ahead and take advantage of it. It's for our yearly subscription. You can help us out in the
election season to help build. We've got our RFK Junior Focus Group, which has been rescheduled after the snow that blanketed the Midwest also blanketed us here in Washington and Chrystally, you are doing a live stream tonight with a couple of friends that we should flag for everyone.
Yeah, that's right.
So myself, Katie Helper Brion and Joy Gray, we are all teaming up to do a live stream with Mueen Rabani and Norman Finkelstein to really break down the ICJ case from South Africa against Israel. What is the likelihood of its success, what might happen from here? So really excited to talk to all of them and break all of that down for you people. So check out that live shares is at eight pm tonight. We'll go for a few hours and get into all of those things.
Good luck to you for staying up well. Passed my mos.
I told them ten o'clock is hard clock.
I can't stay in five two hours at ten o'clock. That's crazy. All right, let's get to the election. As we mentioned, I did a breaking news last night, Governor de Santis did officially drop out of the presidential race. His main I guess contender against him, who was not named Donald Trump. Nicki Haley immediately react to that on the ground in New Hampshire. Here's what she had to say.
We just heard that Ron de Santus has dropped out of the race. I say, Ron, he ran a great race. He's been a good governor and we wish him well. Having said that, it's now one fella and one lady left, will I be using.
The name Ron the sanctimonious?
I said that name is officially retired.
So Trump has officially retired. Personally, never thought it was his best work. I think meet Ball Ron was far better. But those are the two immediates. Now we've got basically a two person race in the state of New Hampshire. Trump kind of making this evidence. He's been attacking Nicki Haley now for several days, which has led to a bizarre incident where he seemed to imply that Nicki Haley was actually in charge of security at the Capitol on January sixth. Let's take a list.
By the way, they never report the crowd on January sixth. You know Nicki Helly, Nikki Haley, Nicki Haley. You know they do. You know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed it, all of it because of lots of things like Nicki Haley is in charge of security. We offered her ten thousand people.
So we think Crystal He was referring to Nancy Pelosi. But Haley now picking up on this and implying that Trump has lost some of his marbles. Let's take a listen to that.
We need a president for eight years, even if you have a president for four years. The man was going on a rant about how I was keeping Capitol police from going in on January sixth. He went on and on mentioned my name multiple times about the fact that I stopped people from being secure on January six I wasn't in DC on January six I had nothing to do with the Capital. It's things like that. He said multiple times that he ran against President Obama. He didn't
run against President Obama. These things happened because guess what, when you're eighty, that's what happens. You're just not as sharp as you used to be. This is not personal, y'all know. I voted for him twice. I was proud to serve in this administration. This is the fact that we have a country in disarray and a world on fire, and we need to know that we are not giving our kids options of two eighty year olds going into a presidency.
A little bit more of a general election argument there, Crystal, because I don't think a lot of Republicans feel that he has lost his marbles. But yeah, your overall reaction, DeSantis is out of the race. We certainly did call it. And I guess it's Nicky versus Trump. Good luck to her, I guess Trump would say.
I mean, okay, So there's a few things. There's first of all, the short term impact. What will it mean in New Hampshire where we'll get into in a moment. I mean, some poles have shown her in single digits. It seems like the most recent polls have Trump his lead back into double digits. To be honest with you, I don't know that it has that much impact at all in New Hampshire because Ron DeSantis really wasn't pulling that while in New hamsher is getting like six percent
of the vote. So where will that six percent go? Will that be the difference maker? I sort of doubt it. My expectation will do. Our official predictions probably tomorrow is that Trump will win New Hampshire and be able to continue that momentum easily into the Republican nomination. So does Rod DeSantis really dropping out make a huge difference for
Nikki Haley? I seriously doubted, although I have seen some people who are assuming that all of his support will basically go to Trump, and I don't buy that.
I think it's more split.
I think probably maybe sixty forty, maybe even fifty to fifty. I don't know, but I don't think it's a huge difference maker because Trump has such a large lead on
other dynamics. You know, there's a reason why from the beginning, even before all of the indictments, even before all of this happened, you and I were both very skeptical that Ron DeSantis, even at his best, even after Florida did phenomenal in the midterms and Trump was kind of down and out because i'll his candidates had underperformed and the Republicans had underperformed. Even at that moment, we were very skeptical because the Republicans still really like Donald Trump.
They still really.
Liked him, and he basically was an incumbent coming into this the way that they looked at and you had to give them a big reason to move away from Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis proved himself really unable to come up with an argument. I don't think it was going to be an easy thing to do. I don't even know if it was a possible thing to do that would move people off of Donald Trump and towards him. And in addition, perhaps his strongest argument to make was electability.
Look at the scoreboard.
Not only did you have the example of him on the campaign trail being incredibly awkward and also, by the way, running a really poor campaign in the Twitter spaces debacle, and people can go through the list, etc. But I don't think it gave people a lot of confidence like, oh, yeah, this is the guy that can definitely win. And meanwhile, Joe Biden is so pathetic that you're like, of course Trump can beat him.
I mean, anyone who.
Looks at the scoreboard, so to speak, and doesn't think that Trump has a chance to defeat Joe Biden, They're just living in an alternate universe. So, you know, once that was off the table, the potential electability argument, there just wasn't a lot there to work with. So listen, I know a lot of people are being really hard
on the Rhonda Stantis campaign. There's plenty of material there to work with, but to be honest with you, Trump ran a really terrible, embarrassing campaign in twenty sixteen, and ey one, the bottom line is rond De Santis is not was never going to be president at this time. He's never going to be president period. He's just not the guy. And especially when you have a Republican Party, and especially when you have a person in Donald Trump who still really defines the center of gravity in both
parties and focuses the debate. Everything turns around this man in both parties. So without some gigantic situation that was going to move people off of him, which we have never seen unfold in the Republican Party since he jumped on the scene, I think that this campaign, regardless of how perfectly it was run was basically doomed from day one.
Yeah, I mean, and look, Trump is just has the it factor, you know, Rohnde Santis. With Trump is in or is out, He's not going to be inspiring the same level of just reverence that people have. I mean, take a look at this. Let's put this up there on the screen. This is the line for people to get into the Trump rally in New Hampshire, where the feels like is one degree fahrenheit. It is literally almost zero minus thirty under freezing in the state of New Hampshire.
In Manchester, people were lining up for hours to get in there. Hundreds thousands, you know. I mean, that's just something that you've never seen anything like that in modern politics. And look, the only place you have seen at Crystal, like you said, is amongst Democrats who hate Trump, and when they're willing to line up there and they ain't lining up for Joe Biden, they're lining up to vote against Donald Trump to chant, you know, wearing the you know,
the pink hat. Almost said something else there the Women's marchin also, there's nothing wrong with that. It just shows you that it's the inverse right of the inspiration that he inspires amongst some voters is exactly the same thing that he applies for others. The thing is as you said too, in the state of New Hampshire. Just to back up your point, put this up there on the screen, just to give people an example of where the current polling is. Trump is currently in fifty five percent. This
is in the latest USA Today Suffolk poll. You've got thirty six percent for Nicki Haley. I mean, it's not bad, but it's definitely still twenty some points behind. Desantans was polling at six. That's part of the reason that he dropped out. It would have just been this like humiliating twist in the wind for more than a month until the South Carolina primary and eventually going into Super Tuesday. You know, you don't want to finish before you know,
three or four points. You want to be able to go out of quote unquote on top after you came in second, possibly curry some favor with Trump. As you said, I don't think all of that's going to go to Trump, although the majority of them, their second choice voter is going to be Donald Trump. They may just not show up to vote and then the you know, I guess three percent or so would go over to Nicki Haley. Now, listen, it's certainly possible. New Hampshire is a tough state to poll.
It's weird. Trump definitely overperformed expectations last time, but things have defied with some expectations this time around. Obviously, Iowa was like, you know, a little bit squirrely in terms of where things were going for the exact percentages, even though the Iowa Seltzer polled. But there's no real equivalent here in the state. Plus you've got the open factor for a bunch of people who may have registered as Republicans go there, and that's the only reason why she
might overperform expectation. But we'll see.
Yes, the real question, it's possible, Right, it's possible she wins New Hampshire. I don't think she will, but it's possible. I think it is theoretically in the realm of possibility that she wins New Hampshire. If she does, she will still lose every state, including her home state, which is next of South Carolina, which is I mean, listen, On the one hand, this couldn't have lined up better for Nikki Haley. Right, you have New Hampshire early in the lineup,
the very first primary state. That's a great state for her. It's probably the best state in the country for her in terms of potential performance. That's fantastic. Then you go into your home state of South Carolina. What could be a better lineup? She couldn't have planned it better. On the other hand, if you go into your home state of South Carolina and you lose, that's game over, right, that's game over now. I really am kind of fifty
to fifty. I suspect she probably drops out after that, but I'm not one hundred percent sure she may stay in there, even though it's completely humiliating embarrassing to then get like ten percentage points in every state after that, just as an option in case something does happen with Trump that takes him off the field before the Republican nomination,
she's the last one they're standing. That's theoretically possible, but I think, because especially of the timeline of his legal trouble, that is not all going to unfold until maybe before the general election, and maybe not even before then. But I don't think any of that is going to ripen before the Republican nomination is settled. So it's probably more likely that after she loses South Carolina, that's.
The end of the road for her.
I saw someone say that. I think is Harry Anton, who works for Cianna. He previously work for five thirty eight. He's one of the better pulling analysts. He was like, look, guys, here's the truth. We're shaping up for the longest general election in modern American history. And I think he's right. I mean, basically, we haven't seen something like this. I mean, technically, you look FDR. I guess certainly had some challengers or
whatever back in the day. Probably that's the last time the waiver had such a presumptive nominee here and such a presumptive nominee on the other side, even though you know, technically the general election was only a couple of weeks. This is, you know, I haven't seen any thing like this in a long time where you know exactly who both parties are going to be technically with an open primary,
at least that's what it was supposed to be. Just to give everybody again a preview of the state of the real clear politics polling average, let's put this up there. So Trump has got plus fifteen on average over all of his opponents roughly in line what we just saw, fifty two percent average that he's polling at thirty, Nikki Haley at thirty seven to five. DeSantis's average was roughly seven.
So we'll see if you equally split that down the middle, you can see it puts Trump righter with fifty five or so, possibly Haley at forty.
Now, there is one outlier poll that's not listed here from American Research Group. It's not rated highly, by five point thirty eight. For what it's worth, it's like a C plus pulling outfit, and they have the race basically a statistical tie, I think, with Niky Haley down two points, but that's within the margin of air. That's an outlier. But I do want to acknowledge that it exists that that polling is out there. They use a somewhat different methodology.
Maybe they're picking up something that other people aren't, or maybe they're wildly off base. Very hard to say, you know, we'll see what happens on Tuesday night. They also have and we'll cover this to an outlier poll on the Democratic side.
The Democratic race very.
Difficult to pull in the state of New Hampshire, because you have Joe Biden not on the ballot, people have to write in his name and that just makes it for you know, very difficult to predict how that is all going to go down, and you know what percentage point he will get in the state as well. But
just wanted to acknowledge that exists. One other things soccer that I wanted to mention because we played the clip of Nikki Haley picking up on Trump's like confusing or with Nancy Fulisi, and I saw that too, the like SETI ran against Obama a couple times when he didn't. I mean, first of all, I do think it's reasonable to say the man is eighty years old, So these slip books are going to happen more and more like That's just the nature of aging.
It is what it is.
I will also say, though, as someone who talks for a living and talks all the time, like I also make He's stupid miscuse sometimes, so I don't put too much stock in it. But I will say politically, not only Nicki Haley, but also Joe Biden is picking up on this. And to your point about the general election has already started, like everybody's moved past these primaries basically and assumes it's going to be Trump and Biden because
it is going to be Trump and Biden. Biden picked up on this and was also making fun of it and using Nicky Haley's comments to make fun of it as well. And do I think this is going to, you know, persuade people that Biden is more on the ball than Trump is. No, but it is a classic
tactic just to try to muddy the waters. Like if Biden's biggest liability is that he is old and not altogether with it and can't formulate a sentence in all of these things, if you can just muddy the waters a little bit and get people thinking like, yeah, Trump's not one hundred percent either. He also is on that aging decline as well. That could be a useful strategy for Joe Biden. I don't think it's a stupid idea.
I don't think it's a bad idea either. As you said, I mean, what your best. So when you've got a negative, what you want to make sure is that it's not just a negative against you. If you can try to make it so they're like, well, Trump has something too, and you've got a general election voter who's like, well, I'm mad about his aid to Madge about his as well, then maybe I'll vote for my second tertiary or whatever
type thing. It's kind of like the original Documents case, where you know, classified documents for Trump and then you came out on Biden. It's like the moment that that happened, it was like, I'm politically not legally, it's a wash. So that's what you would, you know, really desire is that the other side does it too. Will it work?
I'm not so sure. There's a lot of pulling to suggest that Americans are a lot more upset about President Biden's age, or at least much more concerned than President Trump. As you said to you know, slip up every once in a while is actually and again this is not to be construed as you know, speaking up for the man. It's just every once in a while when you're on camera all the time, as we have all learned here, you're going to say something you know you're gonna misswap
your words exactly. Yeah. But in the pattern that we've seen with Biden now for years and years, the degradation and the amount of time that he's on camera and where it's the majority of the time and not the minimal amount of time as opposed to Trump, where I would say that's flipped. That's probably why it's a bigger problem. But if Biden can try to elevate this, we'll see. Obviously it's gonna be a pretty big dynamic I think
in the general election. Yeah, like agism against the two of hissm, the two of them.
Yeah they're running.
Yeah. I also have seen there have been all these like resistance liberal conspiracies about Trump's health.
Oh the lead golf source from it golfs all the time?
Oh is that what it is?
Yeah?
Exactly.
Okay, I have golfed enough now to know you wear a glove and you don't get I mean I just even as a brand new golfer, I wasn't getting that kind of thing on my hands anyway. I'm not buying the golf sto. Sorry, but I'm I don't know. James Carvel's out there like it's the clap for sure. It is hilarious anyway, So there's that there's like a video of him where people are like, oh, he's dragging that right leg again. So the resistance crowd is really trying to drum up a lot of concerns about Trump and
his health and his mental fitness and whatever. I will say, I don't know about a thing, but on the mental fitness, I have seen enough clips now of him mixing up words and whatever to say, yeah, this is different than the sharpness that used to be there.
I do think. I mean a ken he's going to be eighty years old, like that does this does happen?
He is, in fact, even though it doesn't all often seem like it, he is in fact a human being. So I don't think that's like totally to be dismissed. And like I said, is this going to persuade voters that Biden is actually the one who's fit, you know, the most fit and ready to be president given his manifestly low energy levels and like unwillingness to do rallies or talk to the press or really capably do much
of anything. No, but can he make it a little less clear cut, make it a little bit so that's less of a factor going against him. Yeah, I think he could.
Probably pull that off.
Yeah, I think it's possible. We will see. It also depends in terms of the fitness of the two of them. Anyway, let's turn. We've got a great guest standing by Shelby Talcott. You're going to join us to about the demise of the Dessantas campaign. Joining us now is political reporter for Semaphore, and she is joining us alive from the state of New Hampshire. So he wrote an interesting new piece. Let's put it up there on the screen. Thirteen reasons why
Ron DeSantis did not become the Republican nominee. Thirteen. I'm not exactly sure that we needed all of them, no offense, Just tell us a little bit about what you described. Were you surprised yesterday when DeSantis dropped out. I'm sure you guys were hearing things almost imminently about what was coming forward. But being on the ground there in the state, did it make sense for him to do so?
Yeah, it absolutely made sense. I mean, he had actually left the state of New Hampshire to go campaign in South Carolina, partially because there really was no path for him here in New Hampshire, and he was sort of hoping that there would be a path for him in South Carolina and that he could have at least a few days head start. The problem is, I heard that a few days ago he got some bad South Carolina internals that played a role in him ultimately deciding to
drop out. He had been planning on coming back here to New Hampshire, but really it felt like after Iowa his campaign was sort of lost. They didn't really have a clear path forward because there really was no clear path forward. And as I wrote, there are multiple reasons why his campaign sort of failed to launch. It started before he even got into the race. He took heavy fire from Donald Trump and he didn't reply to it.
He had that disastrous launch on X.
Once he launched, he was he had sort of a bloated campaign that he was forced to downsize pretty quickly, and instead of downsizing in just one news cycle, he did it in several news cycles, which, of course nobody wants three or four negative news cycles. The list goes on, some of it his fault, some of it not his fault, example being deadments, but ultimately it just wasn't meant to be so out here on the ground, nobody was really shocked that he decided to drop out before Tuesday happened.
Makes sense.
What is the cope coming from the Desanta's camp about why this didn't come together for him.
Yeah, I mean, I think they maintain when I talk to people from Team DeSantis, that he was the best option for America, that he should have been president, but that voters simply were not ready to move on from Donald Trump, and.
That's sort of where they're at.
They're also really glad that he did end up dropping out for New Hampshire, because I was talking to people over the past few weeks, even before Iowa who really wanted him to be president and still supported him and had this sort of I'm going to go down with
the ship mentality. But also we're concerned because they wanted him to drop out to save himself for twenty eight and so there's sort of relief within DeSantis world at this point because they believe that he has successfully saved himself and can run again when Americans are ready and when you know the country has perhaps moved past a Donald Trump presidency.
Well, we'll see. So, Shelby, you are on the ground in New Hampshire, So can you just tell us a little bit about like what the dynamics are with Nicki Haley. Certainly we see that she has come up in the polls, but we also see Trump, you know, really consolidating fifty odds some percent and possibly even higher so in the days now so day, I guess since DeSantis dropped out, what was the reaction like to people expect all those voters to go to Trump or what's the general consensus?
Losanta's didn't have that much voter support to begin with here in New Hampshire, but the anticipation is that much, if not all, of those are going to go to Donald Trump, And in New Hampshire, you know every percentage
point is going to count. I will say Donald Trump's team is feeling very confident, very happy right now, especially with Desanti's dropping out, less so because of the percentage points that it gives him, and more so because of the sort of overarching theme and mentality that it brings.
Donald Trump has brought a slew of South Carolina here to endorse him and to to sort of knock down Nikki Haley in that sense, and it's less about getting votes and more about just that idea that he is so strong that Nikki Haley has no chance and sort of trying to sow doubt in voter's minds here in New Hampshire before they actually come out and vote now. I will say Nikki Haley argues that she's feeling very confident she has that sort of undecided voter base locked up.
At the same time, her team has sort of been tempering expectations from a win here in New Hampshire to a strong second place finish, which, of course, you know always sort of indicates something to me.
So we will see.
What do you think her end game is here, Shelby, Because she's not gonna be the Republican nominee. I mean, even she wins in New Hampshire, she's way behind in her home state of South Carolina, which is next, and that's her next best performance in the country. There's no other state where she's even anywhere close. It does not appear that there's some like group waiting in the Republican primary to have the permission to vote for Nikki Haley.
Republicans like Donald Trump. And you know that's like very clear at this point. So what do you think her play is. Does she want to remainant relevant Republican politics? Does she want a media gig? Does she want to be Trump's VP? What do you think her end game thinking is at this point?
I mean, that's the ultimate question, right, because I do agree with you. I think a few months ago there was sort of some deliver of hope that if she did really well in Iowa, had a second place finished, she did not did really well here and won, that there would be sort of this sect of people in South Carolina who had just been waiting for permission to vote for her.
That doesn't seem to be reality.
And so that's one of Trump team's arguments is she really has no path forward. When I've talked to them about the vice presidential pick. She told a pair of voters this week in New Hampshire that she was out on VP. That is not something she wants. Of course, every candidate says that. I think until the opportunity arises. At the same time, I've talked to Trump folks who say, we listen, we've been so aggressive at Nikki Haley, it's gonna be hard to put that sort of thing back
in the box. So I don't know where she goes from here. She has sort of distanced herself from that MAGA movement, and in a way, there's not really a place for her in this kind of Republican party.
Quite frankly, no I think that's a great point. I mean, we originally were going to talk to you about some beepsteaks and what things were looking like inside the Trump team and what their thoughts are. So can you just give us a general sense. I've seen at least Dephonics name floated. I know online it's popular to say it's going to be Vivague. I personally don't see that happening, but maybe I'm wrong. What do you think?
I also don't see it happening, partially because he's so green. Trump's team has always been talking about they want someone who knows what they're doing.
That's part of the reason.
I also don't think it's going to be carry Lake, because he wants someone who is a quote unquote winner.
He's looking for loyalty.
First, of course, especially after this Mike Pence thing where he felt like Mike Pence was disloyal, so that's the number one thing.
But he also wants someone who's.
Not going to necessarily outshine him in the media. And all of these names that are floating around a leash, Stephonic, jd Vance, Sarah Sanders, they're all in the mix. But I think it's really important to note that every time one of these media stories pops up. Right now, it is accurate Donald Trump is asking around about these people.
But at the same time, that's what he does.
Anytime somebody does something he likes, it piques his interests, he pulls people.
He pulls people.
At mar a Lago, at dinner, he pulls his aids. And so I would caution to read too much into these sorts of media stories. It's clear that he has some sort of general list, but that list has not been finalized. And this is what he does. He likes the media questioning who he's going to be. It keeps him in the news cycle. He doesn't have to do anything. And he also likes sort of sitting back and watching these these VP.
Hopeful sort of fight for it.
Yeah, that's the next stage that we're starting to see here in New Hampshire.
Yeah.
Cool.
And lastly, Shelby, you know you mentioned before that some of Ronda Santas's biggest supporters were glad he pulled out now to preserve his chances for twenty twenty eight. I mean, what do you think about his chances for the future in the Republican Party. How does the Republican base feel about him. How does the donor set feel about him, because they sort of, you know, abandoned him for Nikki
Haley in the middle of this race. I think most people you know would agree with your assessment that the campaign was very poorly run. He was an awkward campaigner out on the stump, and so the war people saw of him, the less they were interested in casting their vote for him. So what do you think that Ron de Santis' future looks like within the Republican Party.
I think one of the big things, quite frankly, is that he has sort of gotten back into Trump's good graces by endorsing him. That was certainly a strategic move. Partially, he just had no interest in helping Nikki Haley was very clear there's no love lost between those two. But also I think, you know, if Donald Trump goes to say he wins office in twenty twenty four, he's now back on Donald Trump's good side, and that alone can sort of help him get those maga type voters that he failed.
To get this time around.
At the same time, you think twenty twenty eight, there's going to be a whole number of new top Republicans that opted not to get in this cycle, who are going to be really tough to beat, you know, Glenn Yenkin types. So it's going to be really interesting to see if he can in the next several years sort of refine that awkward persona and learn from his mistakes enough to remain you know, the top twenty eight contender, as so many people believe he still could be.
Well, we'll see what happens. As Trump often likes to say, who knows, he may himself decide to endorse or run again.
You never know.
Now I'm gonna guess Ron doesn't launch next time on Twitter spaces.
Yes, yeah, that's right. He's going to launch on the Apple Vision Pro, on the Apple Vision Pro two point zero. Good tell, I'm excited. I'm excited, all right, Shelby, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Thanks, Okay. Turning now to the Democrats in the state of New Hampshire, possibly the only real primary that we're going to get this time around. Poles are looking interesting, so it's a very difficult state to poll, especially because you've got Biden
running this strange ride in campaign. But things are not looking terrible for Dean Phillips. Go and put this up there on the screen. This is a brute and brand new poll. This is from ARG the American Research Group, rated as C plus from five thirty eight. But they actually show Joe Biden at fifty four percent for a ride in Dean Phillips at thirty two percent, seven percent say they are undecided, four percent other three percent for
mary Anne Williamson. So, I mean, it's kind of interesting that Phillips has seen a surge at least in recent times, and Phillips himself is really like opening up all the stops in terms of the stop Biden argument in the same terms that I think jenk Uger has talked about here on our show and others. He's like, look, there's just no way that this man can beat Trump. I just don't see it at all. He believes it, apparently so much, he's even willing to float a no Labels bid.
Let's put this up there, pretty interesting, basically saying that if Biden is going to rig the primary against him that on Saturday he said he would even consider running on the ticket of No Labels, which is that centrist group who we've interviewed here in the past exploring an independent bid against Biden and against Trump. This was in
a New York Times interview. He said for the first time that he was considering it, that he was in regular communication with the group's chief executive, and that quote, Democratic allies of President Biden have been alarmed by No Labels, worrying that any candidate it runs could siphon off votes for him. Phillips said this specifically, people are criticizing them because they believe whomever will offer on their ticket will
hurt Biden. That's false. If they put someone at the top the ticket who could actually drive votes away from Donald Trump, every Democrat in the USA should be celebrating it. They have not made that determination. So he's running, you know, very much on the rigged primary, saying that he's somebody who he thinks that Biden certainly just can't win against Trump at all. I actually don't think that's necessarily true,
Which is it's funny. The electability argument has been made by Dems against Biden and by DeSantis and Haley against Trump, and yet every poll shows that the two of them are probably the strongest that they've been able to put up from their own parties right now, which is pretty difficult for them.
You mean that you think they're the strongest candidates to win in the general AC should I disagree with well.
Within their own parties against each other. I mean, so, for example, the idea that Trump cannot win against Biden is ludicrous, because we've poles after poll that shows that he possibly can. Yeah, Biden as well. I mean, Biden certainly polls pretty well against Trump. We've seen the recent Quinnipeac pole.
Yeah.
I'm not saying they're the best by by far, but I say within the realm of like what's available right now, the two of them have certain strengths that some of these others don't have.
I mean, I do think so like generic Democrat that's different. Yea is like the living embodiment of generic Democrat does better than Joe Biden. Generic Republican, and Nikki Haley in most polls does better than Donald Trump does against Joe Biden. So I think if the Republicans nominated either On DeSantis or Nikki Haley, which obviously DeSantis is not an option now and Nikki Haley is barely an option at this point, I think they would easily beat Joe Biden. I don't
think he would even stand a chance. I think probably the only candidate that he has a chance against is Donald Trump. And Trump I mean likewise, probably the only candidate he really stands a chance against is Joe Biden because of his weakness. But one thing I would say is, you know, the Democratic Party base is very unsure about Joe Biden going up against Donald Trump again. They feel
very insured that he can win once again. They feel very unsure about his capability of serving another full term in office. But they have not really the media has made sure that they are not aware that there are even other options. And let's be fair too. I mean, Dean Phillips came into this race quite late. He has been a little bit all over the map. I want to be charitable towards him because, you know, I appreciate him for a variety of reasons getting in this race.
I think it did take some courage.
You know, he was nice enough to come here and engage with us in a back and forth. So I want to be charitable towards him. But I don't really understand this. He's kind of all over the map. I mean, he's a problem solvers caucus dude who voted one hundred percent with Joe Biden. He framed himself as this very
like centristeed dem as a member of Congress. Then he gets into the primary and sees that a lot of the dissident energy is on the left, and then he's like, well, actually, I support matic care for all, and I support some of these other like Bernie Sanders style priorities or things that actually Marian Williamson has been running on since the beginning of the primary. So it's like, Okay, well, that's
I appreciate if you. His explanation to me was that he got out there and talked to people and saw the need and got out of the DC bubble and became aware. But now you're like taking money from billionaire Bill Ackman, changed in your website to reflect his priorities, floating and no labels.
Bid.
I just don't know.
I just don't really understand the endgame with Dean Phillips. The poll we put up on the screen, this American Research Group poll. They're the same ones that had the outlier in New Hampshire for the Republican side. This is also an outlier on the Democratic side. The other polls of New Hampshire do not show Dean Phillips anywhere near thirty something percent of the vote, So I am skeptical that he has this level of support in the state, but we'll see.
I mean, like I said, the dynamics here, New Hampshire.
Is already hard to pull because you have independence, can vote in party primary, so there's a lot of crossover. So that makes it a bit of a wildcard. Who's going to show up for which primary and how they're going to vote, So there's that piece. Then, to really complicate things, you had Joe Biden, in an attempt to thoroughly rig the primary, basically screw himself in the state of New Hampshire, but try to kick him to the
back of the line. They couldn't move their primary because of their state constitution, so he's having to mount this write in campaign.
But also they don't.
Want to be seen as even campaigning in the state, so it's not even his campaign that's doing the right in campaign. They've left it to a state party that is really pissed off at them, by the way, and not happy about what they've.
Done in terms of moving the primary.
There's been a minimal amount of dollars that have been spent towards his writing campaign, and so I just have no idea how that is going to work out. I
have no idea what percentage Joe Biden will get. I think you will probably outperform this arg poll that we had up, but maybe underperform some of the other polls that have shown him, you know, at sixty five percent, and really trouncing the entire field just because who's going to even be motivated to come out for Democratic primary when the media has been consistently been telling you there is no Democratic primary, there are no opponents, So why would you bother to show up?
How would you know that you have to write in Joe Biden's name.
I just think it's a complicated set of dynamics that makes it very, very very unpredictable how.
This is ultimately all going to unfold.
The last thing I'll say about the Democratic primary is, you know, Marian Williamson has been running as like the left chinallenger to Joe Biden, and she's come out with regard to the unconditional support for Israel, She's come out,
she's voice descent, she's called for a ceasefire. But I think she had a real opportunity to lean into that issue, to really make that a centerpiece, because in terms of the energy and the opposition to Joe Biden, especially among young voters, especially among left leaning voters throughout the Democratic coalition, this has really become a lightning rod and you know, a real central focus of dissent and of upset against him, to the point that many young voters who were with
him last time around are saying, there is absolutely no way I could support this man. And in sign of the fact that she failed to make this an issue that she was sort of identified with and synonymous with and seen as being a consistent advocate on the fact that there's this rite and ceasefire campaign going on where people are being encouraged to, instead of voting for any of the candidates on the ballot, to literally write in the word ceasefire just as a.
Protest against Joe Biden.
If she'd done a better job, I think positioning herself as a dissident on this topic and really leaned into it sure up to protest, talked consistently about it in a way that you know, was landing with the people who are upset about it, then I think that campaign would have been vote for Mary and Williamson as a protest against Joe Biden instead of vote for ceasefire.
Yeah, so we see some of that. We can put b five guys please up on the screen. Let's put it up there from the Boston Globe. So we have New Hampshire primary voters here urged to write in ceasefire to send Biden a message very much, you know, demonstrating exactly what you're talking about, Crystal, which is that if she had made her name synonymous with that in this entire effort wouldn't really be necessary. There's also been some
sniping between Andrew Yang and Mary Ann Williamson. An interesting moment at one of their rallies for Dean in the state of New Hampshire where Yang said that Maryann Williamson it should drop out and to join him and Dean Phillips. She says, Dean is our best chance. Here's what he had to say.
I asked you to join us in challenging the true enemy. The true enemy is the political establishment that does not care about our families and communities, and a media couple that will suppress or demonize anyone who wants to change things. On behalf of the people of this country, mary Anne, Dean is our best chance to change things. I am looking forward to serving in his administration, and I hope that you will join us.
Interesting moment. Immediately, though, mary Anne shot it down. Let's put it up there please, She says, that's not going to happen. She tweeted out, quote, Wow, Andrew Yang, the days of a woman stepping aside on the assumption that a man can do better of the job are over. Deeply disappointed in you, guys, And the answer is no, to which Dean then somehow walked back. Let's put the final element here, he says. I respect Maryann Williamson, a
woman of courage, conviction and strength. I hope she stays in the primary with me, as we shine light on American suffering, proposed solutions, and promote democracy while our party suppresses it. So that's not exactly sure what happened there. My guess is that Andrew talked a little bit off script, meant everything had to be walked back. But in general, as you said, mary Anne squandered a moment a bit there by not kind of consolidating all of the progressive
and young energy. It would have been interesting too, because it had been like an actual test of how strong any of that is even on the ballot in a Democratic primary. Now it's just dispersed right in seas fire, this plus Dean and all of that and Biden. I mean, who knows, Like you said, going in in a presumptive election where you're not even on the ballot to go write in Biden is a weird thing to do. I
did send Crystal. One of our viewers sent me a photo of the write in flyers that have been going around for Biden. They say, you have the power to stop Donald Trump's attack on our democracy. Vote Joe Biden for president. It says voting for Joe Biden as easy as one, two three, Start at the bottom of the ballot with a pen, filling the oval for write in, and write Joe Biden on the line. So that's what they are sending to people. Thank you one of our viewers, by the way, who said.
That, Yeah, the last thing I'll say on all of this is this will be, you know, controversial. I actually think there was more of a chance to unsee Biden in the Democratic primary then, or was with Trump in the Republican primary, Because early on. Yeah, if things had gone to if there had been a unified campaign against Biden, you know, consistently challenging him, making people aware that there was another option, if there had been like a unified coalition.
I genuinely think there was an opportunity here because you had all the polls, I mean, Biden, the Biden team was clearly nervous about this, right, They saw the polls too that the Democratic base, a majority of them were like, we would like someone else, We would like to see another option here. We are not comfortable with this man is the nominee. Once again, we don't know that he can defeat Trump. We don't know that he can serve former years in office. And you know, we've always talked
about this with regard to Trump and Biden. Biden's support doesn't really support for Joe Biden. It's very solid. The most people feel about him is like he's fine.
You know.
That's like the strength of the depth of the feeling about Joe Biden.
Whereas with Donald Trump.
I mean, look, we've showed you before the pictures of the people out in the free zero degree minus twenty whatever love weather to come and see him at a rally. Literally no one. I don't even think Joe Bain's wife would do that at this point.
Right.
So it's much harder to move those people off of Donald Trump than it could have been in an alternate universe where there I was a unified coalition and a concerted effort from the.
Beginning and then especially at the end.
Here, you know, if you had made that noise and you would laid the groundwork. And then you know, with his unconditional support for Israel, which is not just unpopular by the way, in the Democratic Party with young people, it is unpopular across the board. It's actually especially unpopular with young people, obviously Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, but with Black Americans too. Some of the strongest numbers in favor of a ceasefire and oppositional to his unconditional support are
among a key components of the Democratic base. So the opening and the possibilities were there, and you know, you can say, on the one hand, listen, the media just made it impossible. I do think that's a lot of it. There was just a concerted media effort to say there is no Democratic primary, there is nothing even to look at here. Yeah, but Biden's week and maybe it'd be great if there was a challenger, but there's no challenger, even as there are literally challengers in the race.
But again, I think if you had.
A unified effort from the beginning, you could have potentially overcome that media blackout, and there was more of an opportunity on the Democratic side than there really was on the Republican side.
This is where I think machine politics has come into play, where the machine was not as actually stronger I think today than it was in the past. And you can look at the Carter Kennedy election for an example where yeah, I mean, maybe it's just because Kennedy was literal of royalty in the party at that time and nobody could tell him not to even though the majority didn't want
him to run. It listened to the Democratic Party establishment, but he had enough money and he was able to mount a serious campaign and went for a pretty long time. But the thing is is that with Kennedy, Kennedy recognized Carter's unpopularity and lack of strength a year a year and a half into the actual race, and so that's why he mounted up from the beginning. He said, there's no way this guy's going to win. At nineteen eighty and he was correct about that. He mounted an electability case.
He said, if we're actually going to be, you know, going forward, you've got to look at the way this man has led the country. It's been a total disaster. He's going to get his ass kicked, you know, in the election. The problem was is nobody had really the strength to say that from all the beginning, unless you were, you know, literally an independent media or somewhere else in
the MSNBC, the Organs and all that. At least to their credit, the press at that time were forced to cover it, and they were a little bit more neutral too. It was the whole era of like pre cable and they were like, listen, you know, President Cardner's tremendously unpopular. Mister Kennedy says that he can't win, and he's going to run against him. Democratic voters ultimately did go with Carter after a pretty brutal campaign, but at least that
argument was made. But that doesn't exist right now. Yeah, the ability to even do that doesn't exist.
Here's the thing.
I mean, one piece of this is that Democratic voters still really trust the mainstream press.
Yeah betcha.
And so that gives them a lot of power. We saw this in twenty twenty. Yeah, right when the mainstream press decided all right, Joe Biden's the guy, we're all lighting up behind him. The dominoes fell like that, I mean, tremendous shift against Bernie Sanders, like oh were literally overnight, and Joe Biden sweeps into the Democratic nomination, no problem.
So that's one piece of the problem. The other thing is, you know, the challenger to Joe Biden from the beginning was Mary and Williamson, and because she doesn't have that, like, you know, elected DC credential, they found it easy to ignore her. So I think personally, somebody like Gavin Newsom
should be kicking himself right now. I think if you had someone who was like a governor, you know, like Gavin Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer or whoever, who the media had built up as a quote unquote you know, certified serious person and they had the right credentials and whatever, I think it would be have been very difficult for them to completely.
Ignore what was going on there.
And I personally think there was an opportunity for someone like that if they jumped in the race early on and were consistently making the case in a nice way, not a mean way against Joe Biden, but about like, listen, he's right, the democracy is on the line. He's right, the Trump is this existential threat. He's right that we have to do everything we can to win. Thank you for doing that for us in twenty twenty. Now it's time to hand the ball off to the next generation.
Who was more able to do that.
In twenty twenty four.
I do think there was an opportunity for that, but they very effectively kept everybody within the elected democratic establishment in line. They kept them in line, and that Joe Biden then, even though it was like a house of cards waiting to be knocked over by you know, a stiff breeze, was able to remain assembled. And so now Democrats are like stuck with this dude, hobbled with him going into a general election. We'll say he may still win.
Trump is also a terrible candidate and people really hate him. He may still win, but they have made it so much less certain and are playing an incredibly we can with a man who you know, consistently can't formulate a sentence, they can't be confident in putting him out even for like the friendliest of interviews. He's incapable of campaigning. If he does do debates, it's going to be a bloodbath against Donald Trump. This is the hand that Democrats have decided to play.
Well, Christal, Look, if he does lose, at least you can say I told you so, And I will say a lot of people like Newsome and Whitmer and all them, They're gonna have a lot less credibility if he does lose, because people will be like, hey, man, where the hell were you? And in that chaos you know from the ashes arise in Phoenix, So you never know. I mean,
I can be very hopeful. The more likely is that we're going to come up with like Russia Gate nine point zero, and that we'll have a whole of entire different scenario where we know some fake stop the steal on the Democratic side. That's actually a most likely scenario given what happened in the past.
There's nothing I can share for at this point. It's just like, well, we'll see what happened.
I enjoyed chaos personally, Okay, christl what are you taking a look at?
In a sign of the vapid, degraded and pitiful nature of our public discourse. A facile speech seemingly written by a fifteen year old upon their first encounter with iin Rand has dazzled the world's billionaire class and quite a few way too online fanboys, up to and including their leader,
Elon musk New. Argentine President Javier Malay took a break from banning protests, laying off thousands of workers and spiking inflation over two hundred percent to come preach the gospel of neoliberalism to the choir at.
The World Economic Forum in Davos.
Now, of course, annually at Davos, the world elite gathers alongside their political pawns, their media enablers, and grifter wannabes to see what they can do to further extract global wealth, expand their monopolies, and solidify control over world affairs. These deals, which are the real action of the event, occur behind closed doors, while the public face of Davos is a fake do gooderism, where the very people creating many of the problems of the world, from war to hunger to
climate catastrophe wring their hands about these very issues. Apparently, However, even this pretense of benevolence has become too much for the world's billionaire class. Judging by the rapturous reception of Javier Malay, World Economic Forum had Clush Schwab gave Malay a fawning introduction, louding the quote new spirit he had brought to Argentina. This new spirit, by the way, is just the same old neoliberal shop doctrine that the West
has long imposed on developing nations. Malay's message to this group can be summed.
Up in three words. Greed is good to governments.
Get out of the.
Way and let the world's oligarchs extract wealth to their hearts content to the billionaires who do he described as heroes. Keep doing what you're doing. You can see why they love them so much. Who wouldn't want to hear their vice loud it as virtue.
Therefore, in concluding, I would like to leave a message for all business people here and for those who are not here in person but are following from around the world. Do not be intimidated, intimidated either by the political class or by parasites who live off the state. Do not surrender to a political class that only wants to stay in power and retain its privileges. You are social benefactors, your heroes.
You're the creators of.
The most extraordinary period of prosperity we've ever seen. Let no one tell you that your ambition and moral. If you make money, it's because you offer a better product at a better price, thereby contributing to general well being. Do not surrender to the advance of the state. The state is not the solution. The state is the problem itself. You are the true protagonists of this story, and rest as showed that as from today, Argentina is your staunch, unconditional ar now.
His message was both radical and completely supportive of the status quo, because the status quo ideology of the ruler class is in fact quite radical. As a politician, he is telling them powerful he will be their lackey. He will strip the power of the state and imperfect but theoretically democratic institution we're in. Citizens at least have a shot at exerting influence and hand it to multinational corporations headed by a short sighted and self interested billionaire class.
I'm struck by the childlike fairy tale nature of the story he tells and what it says about our infantile rulers that they lap it up like hungry puppy dogs.
Malay paints a picture of extraordinary men made wealthy by cre innovating, designing products to benefit the whole world, when in reality, every year, if you take a look, the most new billionaires come from the finance sector, people who are only skilled at new creative methods of extraction and mathematical trickery, whose innovations are designing new exotic financial instruments like credit default swaps that eventually blow up the entire
world economy. In Malay's billionaire bedtime story, there is no such thing as market failures.
He says this explicitly, so.
Any and all regulation is both unnecessary and wrong. He specifically argues that even one of the classic examples of market failures, the monopoly, is actually a good thing not to be messed with. Given the large number of monopolists in attendance, I'm sure this message was like chicken soup
for their greedy souls. Anyone, of course, with a basic grasp of reality outside of an imagined libertarian fantasy world, can see that this attack on literally all market regulation is insane, unless, of course, you're a fan of Deckenzian style, child labor, indentured servitude, and poison food and water. I'm not sure I've ever seen this particular fantasy deflated as quickly as in this infamous clip of Joe Rogan educating Dave Ruben on the need for building codes.
Just take a listen, what problem would you have? Everything you're building here right now right? Do you want the government to tell you how to do all these things? And all the regulations that you got to have your electric thing this far from this, and like.
All the regulations like that for construction are important. Though you do have to make sure that people don't do stupid shit but have a power lines near a water line.
There's a lot of but I would put most of that on the builders though they want to build things that are good.
Now, I get all, that's not true. Listen, people, people are going to corners all the time. Like, you have to have regulations when it comes to construction methods or people are gonna get fucked.
They cut regulation. They cut corners when there are regulations.
Anyway they do. They would cut a lot more if there weren't regulations. I'm not totally the Third world countries and look at construction methods. They're fucking dangerous. Yeah, that's why schools collapse on kids in foreign countries sometimes. I was in construction my whole life. My dad's an architect. I've been in construction since I was a little kid. You fucking need regulations. These guys. A lot of people that are in construction, they'll do whatever the fuck they
can to make money. And it's not good for the people that have the house, because they might have that house for five ten years before that problem manifests itself. The people who are establishing these codes are licensed builders or people that have been involved in construction for a long fucking time, and they know what's safe and what's not safe. That's why those codes exist. It exists to protect the consumers.
Perfect example there. I could give you thousands of similar instances, from the unregulated Titanic submersible to kids getting sucked into meat grinders, to the Great Depression and the Great Recession, to the old company towns where workers were paid in script and forced into permanent debt so they could never leave their brutal jobs until they died from black lung
at age forty. And the big picture of no regulation just looks like an acceleration of the absolute worst of what we've got right now, governments which are even more corrupt and undemocratic, wild inequality, where billionaires construct multimillion dollar bunkers to escape the apocalypse they are helping to usher in, while the vast majority are locked out of the basics of food, shelter, and healthcare, and a deep moral rot that would place human worth, creativity, and flourishing below the
demands of the profit margin and the needs of Malay's billionaire heroes. Now, Malay is, after all, a man who would buy and sell human organs, so he is perfectly willing to literally put a price on humanity. In a particularly nonsensical part of his speech, Malay equates communist Nazis, fascists, socialists, social democrats, national socialists, Christian democrats, Kanesians, Neo Kanesians, progressives, populist nationalists, and globalist, saying quote in the end, there's
no substantive difference. The preposterous nature of racing theme the clear differences between a very wide range of ideologies goes without saying unless you are a literal child or a member of the oligarch class, which Malay services But there's a reason why these elites are so excited to hear all of this and to see moderate reformists like Progressives equated with radical evils like Nazism, and it's because they feel themselves under siege by some of these name checked movements.
After all, the greatest good, radical libertarianism that Malay espouses and which had been ascended in America since Goldwater enforced on much of the rest of the world since Reagan, has been repeatedly rebuked by regular people all around the world. Look at the wellspring of radical billionaire friendly market radicalism the Republican Party itself, and you can see how these
ideas have been rejected in practice. Trump has largely continued the reaganlike policy of the past, with a few exceptions, but he became the load star of American politics by advocating for a clean break from that neoliberal market radical era. Young Americans, who have been thoroughly failed by Malay style market radicalism, are even more clear in their rejection of
this model. The speech also arrives at a moment when a decisive conflict is brewing between the needs of humanity and the needs of the market and owner class, with the advent of.
Super intelligent AI.
It is clear that in this potentially existential battle, Malay's view is to hell with the humans. It is therefore a diseased mind which could with a straight face call any of this freedom as Malay does. Free to work all your days for global monopolists who set all the terms of your exploitation, unless God forbid, you are unable to work, or a robot eliminates your usefulness, and then.
You are free to quietly die.
Don't be fooled into thinking this man is some sort of truth teller or challenge to power. The adoration of the Davo set tells you everything you need to know about who his ideology actually serves, whose freedom actually preserves, and in that ideology, you are just a liability on a billionaire's ballance sheet.
And Sager and if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at breakingpoints dot com. There's a lot of weird things that happened on January sixth, likely federal agents instigators in the crowd protesters. The Way said protesters have been prosecuted since the event. The Way that the media has even treated it. But perhaps the weirdest of all is the plotline that has mostly disappeared from view and could actually shed light on
some of the deeper questions of the day. What happened to the so called pipe bomb investigation? The FBI is part of their investigation, claimed that on January fifth, twenty twenty one, more than three years ago now, an unidentified hooded man planted pipe bombs at both the RNC and DNC headquarters on Capitol Hill, intending to cause damage as
part of the protest. The pipe bomb was often discussed in the immediate aftermath of the attack, as it was a key piece of media evidence of the violent and tent of many protesters going into the day, rather than
a spontaneous explosion of rage. Mysteriously, though, years later, as local DC media notes that pipe bomber has never been caught, despite many protesters being identified by tapping phone records, using facial recognition software and every other spyware known to man, it simply disappeared as a talking point and we're supposed to just forget about it somehow, But some interesting new evidence an analysis has actually come to light that questions a lot of this footage of the Capitol Hill area
on the day of the alleged bomb was discovered shows that approximately at one oh five pm, in broad daylight, a man in a backpack approaches nearby police and Secret Service agents to tell them that he thinks that there is a bomb that is currently nearby a bench in the DNC. That man, it was later revealed, is a plane clothes Capitol Police officer. The officers in the video, which was released in the Congressman Thomas Massey, do not
immediately react when they're told this alarming information. Now, keep this in mind, Vice President Kamala Harris is actually inside of the building at this time. They are supposed to be on high alert, and yet, as Darren Beatty at Revolver News notes, quote, note how casual and unperturbed both the Metro officers and Secret Service officers are. Ask yourself whether this is how you would imagine the Secret Service would normally respond to the discovery of a bomb right
outside of the building housing their protectee. Now, the bomb first appears on camera approximately five minutes after the police were tipped off. After that, police officers still allow actually a passing group of pedestrians including kids, to walk by. A police officer then walks up to the bomb. He takes a photo of it, then before alerting others, that
holds up his thumbs up. The video actually cuts off right around there, but the facts we can take away are this, the cops were tipped off to the presence of the bomb by an undercover cop in a hoodie that did not appear at all alarmed by it, even though the Vice president was inside the building. Three years later, nobody knows who this man was, and they also don't
know who planted the bomb. The rest of the facts are pretty crazy, as Darren Beatty has written, The official narrative from the fbis that the pipe bomb was actually placed on the bench outside of the DNC at seven fifty two PM that was the night before, by a man in a hoodie. It was not discovered until a full seventeen hours later when the tip off came add in this detail, the pipe bomb was one of two.
It's a mere fifteen minutes earlier at twelve forty pm, a random pedestrian allegedly nearby found the first at a Capitol Hill club in Washington, d C, which is nearby to this location, meaning that the two bombs, which were allegedly placed there seventeen hours earlier, according to the authorities,
were somehow discovered within mere mintage of each other. Even stranger, according to the report, is that the two pipe bombs were equipped with one hour mechanical timers, so while they included live explosive material, if they were planted seventeen hours earlier, they were never actually seriously armed to explode because they literally couldn't. All of this let's just slay it's odd, doesn't prove anything, but it gives us a few possible scenarios.
Number one is that this is a total and complete incompetence on the part of law enforcement. It is possible unlikely, though in my opinion, catching the so called pipe bomber would have been a huge headline for the FBI, Joe Biden, and the media. They were able to catch maga grandma's and people wearing masks who walk through the Capitol, but they can't find someone who allegedly tried to vomit. According to the FBI, the January sixth investigation is the largest
in the history of the bureau. This is one where lack of resources and attention after the fact is just not a viable explanation. The other that Revolver puts forwards as somehow this was somehow known to law enforcement, that perhaps the reason the police did not immediately act is because they knew it was BS, or that perhaps the Capitol Police officer who tipped off the cops is the one who in the hood planted himself. One easy way
is to just talk to that man. Three years later, we don't even know the idea or the name of that Capitol Police officer. It has never even been released, despite many questions from members of Congress. So that's where we just leave a few things. I mean, I wrote this monologue exactly three years after Joe Biden took the oath of office, when this was one of the biggest
stories in the world, and yet it's mostly disappeared. And to be clear, that doesn't mean nothing bad happened on January sixth, and the people involved are not responsible for their actions. But it does mean that within the cloud of all of this, as with many tumultuous events, there are major parts of the story that do not pass the smell tests, and ones that need to be investigated. To this day to date, nobody but revolver. Few other
independent journalists have even touched this story. The reasons are obvious if you dig deep, it's pretty clear where some of these things are going to land. Chris what I mean one of the things I even discovered and.
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