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Breaking Free from Narcissistic Abuse

Kerry McAvoy, Ph.D.breakingfreenarcissisticabuse.com

Confused by your relationship? Constantly second-guessing yourself, walking on eggshells, or feeling emotionally drained? Whether you’re still in the chaos or finding your footing after leaving, this podcast is your lifeline.


Join mental health experts Dr. Kerry McAvoy and Lisa Sonni as they uncover the hidden dynamics of toxic relationships. From understanding destructive personalities and their manipulative tactics to exploring the stages of abuse and how to rebuild after the damage, you’ll gain the clarity and tools needed to break free and heal.


If you’re ready to reclaim your self-worth and discover the path to emotional freedom, hit play and start your recovery journey today.


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Episodes

When You Can't Leave or Stay: How to Recognize a Trauma Bond

Send us a text There comes a point when you know you need to leave, but you can’t. The connection with your loved one is too powerful. In this episode, Rossana Faye joins me to discuss the signs and symptoms of a late-stage trauma bond. If you think you’ve been trauma bonded, become a subscriber today and get immediate access to the exclusive podcast extra interview on the first steps to finding enough strength to save yourself. Subscribe here: https://breakingfreenarcabuse.substack.com/ Did you...

Nov 04, 202424 minSeason 3Ep. 89

When You've Been Driven Mad and Snap: The Power of Reactive Abuse

Send us a text Has someone driven you to the breaking point? When you just lose it and snap? This week, Rossana Faye joins me to discuss the destructive power of reactive abuse. Victims often feel terribly guilty afterward, yet they’ve been deliberately provoked into reacting. To learn how to stop reactive abuse, subscribe for immediate access to the practical steps on this week’s Podcast Extra. Join here: https://substack.com/@breakingfreenarcabuse Did you know you don't need to wait a week for...

Oct 28, 202424 minSeason 3Ep. 88

Is it Just the Silent Treatment or Really Rejection? Why Stonewalling is Harmful

Send us a text Is it Just the Silent Treatment or Really Rejection? Why Stonewalling is Harmful Silence occurs for many reasons, but sometimes it’s intentionally used as punishment. Rossana Faye joins me in this podcast episode to discuss why stonewalling is so painful. Silence can be weaponized to send powerful messages of rage and rejection. Are you struggling to recognize stonewalling? Maybe your partner is just emotionally overwhelmed. In this week’s Podcast Extra, Ro and I discuss the diffe...

Oct 21, 202424 minSeason 3Ep. 87

Why is My Partner a Narcissist? Which is it—A Nature or Nurture Problem?

Send us a text Are narcissists born or made? And why does this question matter, considering the terrible toll of narcissistic abuse? This week, psychotherapist Dr. Peter Salerno joins me to discuss the root causes of narcissism along with the common misunderstandings about Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Learn the importance of understanding the underpinning of this character makeup when it comes to healing and recovery. Follow Dr. Peter Salerno on social media: @drpetersalerno Learn more abo...

Oct 14, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 86

Does Childhood Abuse Leave a Lasting Legacy in Adult Relationships: An Interview with Nia Renee

Send us a text What is the impact of childhood abuse on adult relationships? Can children overcome early trauma? Nia Renee joins me this week to discuss the lasting legacy of abuse. She describes the impact of chronic gaslighting and neglect on her later relationships. Learn what role resiliency and determination played in helping break the abuse cycle. Could your child be showing signs of trauma? Learn how to spot early signs of distress in this week’s Podcast Extra. Become a paid subscriber an...

Oct 07, 202424 minSeason 3Ep. 85

How Narcissistic Abuse Could Cost You Your Identity: The Dangers of Echoism

Send us a text Are you speaking up less? Fawning more? There’s a high cost to living with a narcissist, and it could be your identity. This week, Lynn Strathdee, psychodynamic therapist, joins me to discuss echoism, the true opposite personality style to narcissism. She shares how fawning could result in a loss of our very self. To learn more about Lynn’s work: Website: https://www.echoismrecovery.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theechochamber?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc Lynn Strat...

Sep 30, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 84

How Relationships Become Dangerous: The Slow Shift from Toxic to Deadly

Send us a text Dangerous relationships rarely begin physically abusive. Initially, you think you’ve met a fantastic partner, but slowly, the toxicity turns into something more insidious and lethal. Trigger warning: this week, Lisa Sonni and I share vulnerable details of how we missed the early signs of danger in our narcissistic relationships. IF YOU ARE A RISK of immediate danger or abuse, please get in touch with the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233. References: Why Does He D...

Sep 23, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 83

If You're in a Narcissistic Relationship, Why Couples Therapy is a Bad Idea

Send us a text When there’s trouble in a relationship, most couples are urged to seek couples counseling. In today’s episode, Lisa Sonni joins me to talk about why this suggestion is a terrible idea if your partner is a narcissist. Too many couples therapists lack the education to identify narcissistic abuse, and narcissistic and toxic partners are highly sophisticated at manipulating the therapeutic process. For help breaking a trauma bond, see Lisa’s resources: https://strongerthanbefore.ca In...

Sep 16, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 82

Why Narcissists Have Problems with Being Securely Attached to You

Send us a text What’s the connection between attachment styles and narcissism? This week, Dr. Erin Leonard, a practicing psychotherapist, joins me to discuss the common problems narcissists have with emotional intelligence and creating secure connections with others. She’s recently authored How to Outsmart a Narcissist, where she describes the best ways to protect ourselves from narcissists’ efforts to manipulate and exploit. More about Dr. Leonard: BOOK- How to Outsmart a Narcissist: Use Emotio...

Sep 09, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 81

Dr. Carter's Best Advice About Narcissists That Every Survivor Needs to Know

Send us a text Have you wondered what a narcissist was thinking? Why would they do what they do? Do they intentionally know they were being cruel? This week, I’m going to re-release an interview I did with Dr. Carter in 2023. In it, he gave a unique perspective on the narcissist’s mindset and explained their worldview and defensiveness. Learn how they so effectively turn the tables on us, making us think we’re the crazy ones. Stay safe this week! I look forward to having you back for our new epi...

Sep 02, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 80

Why Family Court Too Often Takes the Side of the Narcissistic Abuser

Send us a text Have you noticed that too off family court becomes just another battle ground for the narcissist? Lisa Sonni joins me this week to discuss post-separation of abuse. Most of us passionately want to protect our children from our toxic ex only to experience more helplessness in the mediation and courtrooms. To learn how to tip the scales in your favor legally, join me for the Podcast Extra interview by becoming a paid subscriber. Learn the common mistake too many parents make, and wh...

Aug 26, 202424 minSeason 3Ep. 79

Why Most People, Including the Victim, Fail to Recognize Narcissistic Abuse

Send us a text Are you being abused and don’t know it? Not only is society blind to narcissistic abuse, but so are most victims. In this episode, Lisa Sonni joins me to talk about why narcissistic abuse is so difficult to spot, even to the victims, and the role this plays in the difficulty of getting help. To learn how to break your silence and society’s denial in this week’s podcast extra interview with Lisa. You get access to this resource along with twenty other amazing interviews with expert...

Aug 19, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 78

Bill Eddy's Best Advice For Dealing with Narcissistic Bullies

Send us a text Every person who has dealt with a narcissist has been bullied. This week, expert and author Bill Eddy joins me to discuss what we get wrong about bullying behavior and the practical steps we all should take to better protect ourselves from antagonistic and vindictive people. To learn more about Bill Eddy and his work, visit: https://highconflictinstitute.com And be sure to check out his latest book, Our New World of Adult Bullies: How to Spot Them - How to Stop Them: https://amzn....

Aug 12, 202428 minSeason 3Ep. 77

Why Sometimes It Feels Wrong or Immoral to Leave a Narcissist

Send us a text Leaving is a moral choice. Often, breaking up or divorce is viewed as a personal choice, but it has ramifications and is character-defining. Rossana Faye joins me this week to discuss why sometimes it becomes a moral dilemma to leave our narcissistic partner. Deciding to divorce is often not as clear-cut for many of us. Did you know you don't need to wait a week for your next podcast fix? For only $5/month, sign up for weekly podcast extras! Join me on Substack! Follow Dr. McAvoy!...

Aug 05, 202423 minSeason 3Ep. 76

When Your Partner is a Narcissist, Why the Term "Narcissistic" Matters

Send us a text These days, it seems like everyone is a narcissist. Is the label of narcissist or narcissistic harmful or helpful? This week, Lisa Sonni joins me to discuss the importance and impact of identifying narcissistic abuse and dysfunctional relationship dynamics. Did you know you don't need to wait a week for your next podcast fix? For only $5/month, sign up for weekly podcast extras! Join me on Substack! Follow Dr. McAvoy! YouTube: @kerrymcavoyphd Instagram: @kerrymcavoyphd Facebook: @...

Jul 29, 202426 minSeason 3Ep. 75

Best Advice for Divorcing a Narcissist Without Losing Your Sh*t: Interview with The Dirty Laundry Podcast

Send us a text Divorcing a narcissist often ends up a contentious battle. Victims come into court shaken up and traumatized, whereas their toxic ex appears poised and confident. Today, two Toronto legal mediators, Amanda Silver and Alex Howard, are joining me. They are also the co-hosts of the Dirty Laundry Podcast. They are going to share how to protect your interests better when leaving a narcissist. To learn more about Amanda and Alex, please see: Podcast: https://dirtylaundry.buzzsprout.com ...

Jul 22, 202428 minSeason 3Ep. 74

When You Can't Leave: How to Survive a Narcissistic Relationship

Send us a text What if you're not going to leave a narcissist? What if leaving isn't possible? Is there a way to survive a toxic relationship? Sometimes, leaving a toxic relationship isn't possible due to complex reasons. Lisa Sonni joins me this week to discuss why some victims find themselves trapped in a bad partnership and what to do if this describes your situation. Resources Referenced: Should I Stay or Should I Go? Surviving a Relationship with a Narcissist by Dr. Ramani Durvasula: https:...

Jul 15, 202426 minSeason 3Ep. 73

Stop trauma dumping on me! How to know if you're trauma dumping vs. trauma reprocessing

Send us a text Have you heard of trauma dumping? It’s become a new way to attack victims for talking about their narcissistic abuse experiences. Rossana Faye joins me as this week’s special guest to explore the importance of sharing your trauma and the role it plays in helping you heal from abuse. And you don’t want to miss this week’s Podcast Extra where Ro and I discuss the differences between trauma reprocessing and trauma dumping. For this exclusive interview, subscribe here: substack.com/@b...

Jul 08, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 72

Aren't all relationships tough? Why We Struggle to Spot Narcissistic Abuse

Send us a text In celebration of the upcoming holiday, this episode features three of our listeners’ favorites. Listen in as Tara Blair Ball and I discuss: 1. How narcissistic abuse is different from emotional abuse 2. Why covert narcissists are difficult to spot 3. If it's true that narcissists make good lovers Listen to the full episodes here: S2 EP 33: Were you emotionally abused or narcissistically abused? Why the differences matter S2 EP 38: Are you trapped by a covert narcissist? The top r...

Jul 01, 202427 minSeason 3Ep. 71

Only Me & Never You: Inside the Bizarre Mind of a Narcissist - Interview with Dr. Les Carter

Send us a text The mind of a narcissist is wildly self-absorbed and oblivious to those around them. They are excessively focused on me, me, me. Dr. Les Carter joins me to discuss what victims get wrong about the mind of a narcissist. He shares how our assumptions and misunderstandings create false hope, causing us to stay too long and to give too many chances. To learn more about Dr. Carter: Visit Website & his Surviving Narcissism YouTube channel . Dr. Carter's book: When Pleasing You Is Ki...

Jun 24, 202421 minSeason 3Ep. 70

I desperately love and fear them: The Terrifying Power of a Trauma Bond

Send us a text Could you be trauma-bonded to a narcissist? Are you battling a strange mix of love and fear? Lisa Sonni joins me this week to discuss trauma bonds--an intense connection to another person that is very difficult to break. We think we feel love when it' s based on fear . Learn more about how to recognize if you're trauma-bonded and why it's so difficult to leave. Become a subscriber and get the Podcast Extra exclusive conversation about WHY identifying and breaking a trauma bond is ...

Jun 17, 202431 minSeason 3Ep. 69

Why Can't I Leave? The Crazy Confusion from Late-Stage Cognitive Dissonance

Send us a text Have you asked yourself, "Why can't I leave?" You know you should. You've even started hiding the ugly truth of what's really going on behind closed doors. In this episode, Lisa Sonni joins me to discuss late-stage cognitive dissonance. Learn the underlying cause of the agonizing confusion that paralyzes the victim from acting in their own best interest. Find out what it took for us to break free from its terrible grip. To learn more about cognitive dissonance, become a Podcast Ex...

Jun 10, 202427 minSeason 3Ep. 68

Feeling duped and conned? Why We Miss the Signs of a Covert Narcissist: An Interview with Eleni Sagredos

Send us a text Have you left a relationship feeling duped? Not just betrayed, but conned? You’ve likely met a covert narcissist. In this episode, Elena Sagredos, author of But They’re So Nice, joins me to talk about the deceptiveness of covert abuse. We often miss the signs we’ve met a covert narcissism behind their guise of niceness, only later to discover their extreme duplicity. To learn more about Eleni, you can follow her here: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nonarcsense Instagram: https://...

Jun 03, 202425 minSeason 3Ep. 67

Is my partner a narcissist? Highlights from Dr. Kerry's 3 Favorite Interviews

Send us a text Relationships with narcissists can be confounding, confusing, and incredibly frustrating. Join Dr. Kerry for this holiday episode when she revisits the highlights of her three favorite interviews. Hear Dr. Les Carter’s explanation of why narcissists are so tricky, Lisa Sonni’s three steps to breaking a trauma bond, and Dr. Robin Stern’s disturbing description of gaslighting’s power. To listen to these full episodes: Dr. Les Carter: https://www.breakingfreenarcissisticabuse.com/pod...

May 27, 202426 minSeason 3Ep. 66

"We're just trying to help!" How to Manage Toxic In-Law Drama

Send us a text Are you battling toxic in-law drama? Is your mother-in-law or father-in-law intruding into your relationship or family? This week, Rossana Faye joins us to discuss common toxic in-law drama, particularly when it involves a narcissistic mother- or father-in-law. This week's self-help tip is the importance of strengthening your couple's boundaries over time. Question for you: Is your toxic mother-in-law ruining your marriage or partnership? In this week's Podcast Extra, Ro and I div...

May 20, 202428 minSeason 3Ep. 65

"How mad can I make you?" The Toxic Games Covert Narcissists Play

Send us a text Do you find yourself exasperated or angry at your partner, but you aren’t sure why? Do they put you into no-win binds? Covert narcissists love to play subtle, often hidden mind games. They are masterful at twisting the truth, hiding exploitative agendas, and playing the victim, enraging their partners and families while keeping them in the dark. In this episode, Lisa Sonni joins to discuss the common mind games covert narcissists use. This week's self-help tip is how to use your e...

May 13, 202428 minSeason 3Ep. 64

"You're trying to control me!" Why Managing Boundaries with Narcissists Fails

Send us a text Have you noticed managing boundaries with narcissists always fails? That they find some tricky way to evade limit setting? Suddenly, you’re being accused of being too controlling or sensitive, or they can’t understand what you're asking. In this podcast, Lisa Sonni joins me to discuss the problems of managing boundaries with narcissists. We'll explore this issue from a narcissist's perspective: why they find boundaries threatening. The self-help tip is the importance of evaluating...

May 06, 202428 minSeason 3Ep. 63

"You’re not taking my babies from me!" How Jessica Kent Escaped Abuse

Send us a text (Trigger Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of abuse.) This week, Jessica Kent, a wildly popular social media figure, joins me to share her story of escaping abuse. Jessica reveals how covert narcissistic abuse can go from subtle to violent, especially when victims leave the relationship. Jessica Kent is best known for prison reform advocacy. To learn more about her and her work: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JessicaKent Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/j...

Apr 29, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 62

How Could I Have Not Known? How Devastating Betrayals Blind Us

Send us a text Sometimes, the truth can be right in front of you, but you still can't see it. Rossana Faye joins me this week to discuss a concept Dr. Jennifer Freyd, in her book Blind to Betrayal, calls “betrayal blindness.” Some truths can be so devastating that they are difficult to face. And, the self-help tip is the importance of listening to what feels off, uncomfortable, or wrong to recognize signs you may be missing critical details in your relationship or family. Blind to Betrayal: Why ...

Apr 22, 202427 minSeason 3Ep. 61

Why I'd Snoop Again: How this Toxic Behavior Sometimes Provides Closure and Safety

Send us a text Is it ever okay to go through your partner's phone? I've been guilty of snooping and might consider doing it again. Narcissists and toxic personalities are masters at creating ambiguity. My ex used to readily offer me his credit card after we first started dating. He'd send photos of broken machinery and take me on company runs, all as a way to build trust so that I couldn't tell real company crises from manufactured ones. I later learned he'd created this elaborate ruse to hide a...

Apr 15, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 60
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