Boy Green Daily: Jets Analyst Explains New Cap Situation Post-Aaron Rodgers

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your brain about that in a moment. But the most pressing question since Aaron Rodgers parting of ways again I guess it will be officially official once we get to the new league year, is what the hell does that do for the Jets cap situation and what's going to be happening there And for people who don't know, the early reporting is that the Jets are likely to release Aaron Rodgers that with a post June one designation, and to do that, they must carry him on the roster

until March twelfth. Then they will cut him and then he will be released and can sign with any team. He's allowed to talk to any team right now because the Jets officially announced it their intention to part ways with him, so he's allowed to talk to teams right now, but just can't sign until he is officially released on March twelfth. So they're going to have to if they choose to do that at post June one, they're gonna have to split the remaining dead cap of forty nine

million dollars over two years. It would be fourteen million in twenty twenty five thirty five million in twenty twenty six. In that scenario, his current cap number of twenty three and a half million will be on the Jets books until June second it drops to fourteen million, which will give them a savings of nine and a half million for twenty twenty five. I'm not sure what the hell is going to be available in mid June to use that money on, but that's a different coverisation for a

different day. Like I said, he will be free to sign with teams on March thirteenth. He is allowed to speak with teams immediately. The other option is they could release him right now, and that would mean they absorb the forty nine million in dead cap all right now and the same accounts if they were to trade at which again appears unlikely. Let me start there, Dylan, with

your opinion here. Would you eat it all right now or would just split it if it was up to you on the dead cap charges that exist with Aaron Rodgers.

it and thought about it. I'd prefer them to split it up only because you take the fourteen this year and it allows you to have a quarterback, probably a veteran, on your books for twenty twenty five without exploding the percentage of cap that you're using at the quarterback position. I look at guys like Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, the fifty five and up group, you know, the fifty million group.

Their percentage of cap is like thirty percent. I don't want the Jets to be paying thirty percent of cap space for quarterbacks that aren't here or aren't going to produce. So you take the fourteen for Aaron Rodgers, you bring in an eight to twelve million dollar veteran, you could still sign a guy in the draft. You're looking at a room that doesn't cost a ton. It's probably gonna be about twenty four percent of your cap space, which

obviously keeps going up every year. So I think I've kind of changed my tune and said, let's take it on the back end instead, because next year you would assume that the Jets have their starting quarterback in place on a costly, cost effective deal, and that would kind of mitigate the thirty five. So I would take the fourteen now instead of forty five up front. Because we've saw the Broncos do it, but they hit on their

Hall of Fame coach and quarterback. So unless you think the Jets can replicate that to a t, I'd say split it up and take fourteen and then thirty five.

little bit more reasonable. Yeah. I was the advocate of let's just let's just take our medicine now like a goodbye, and sit in the corner and take all the dead down. But you know, the same thing, the more marination I do that obviously behooves and benefits the jets immediately for contending and competing. Again, sometimes you get lucky and get a talented rookie that just blows up and you just eat the dead cap and that it all works out. But you know, that's easier said than done, I suppose

as far as that's concerned. And also, where did you stand on Aaron Rodgers staying or going what It's a very divisive topic among Jet Nation.

immediately came out and said, nobody's safe. Joe's not safe, Aaron's not. A lot of the young core might not even be safe. And obviously we're seeing those arguments take place currently about the young core. But yeah, I was very much in the mindset, especially watching the last five six games. Obviously I know Buffalo and Seattle was grouped into those five or six games, but I was very much of he looks healthy, let's bring him back. Second year off the Achilles to me sounds a lot better

than you know, first year off an Achilles. I understand the age ramifications, but I also have some of these same people telling me that Kirk Cousins is gonna be better on a second year removed from his acl and I understand there's seven years Achilles. Yeah, I understand there's seven years apart. But Kirk Cousins is just as washed up as people who said Aaron Rodgers has washed up. So to me, I was very much, let's keep Rogers for one more year. It kind of relieves the onus

to find your quarterback right away. I think Aaron Glenn now has you know, started, he turned over the hourglass and now the sand is falling on his time to find a quarterback. Not to say he can't do it or you know, but we know what happens when coaches fail to find their quarterback. It usually doesn't go well. So I was very much of let's run it back one more year, try to you know, retool instead of rebuild.

But obviously they had different plans. I'm not gonna, you know, say fire Aaron Glenn, fire Moojie just because I disagree, but I think until we know the quarterback in place to replace him, it's hard to reserve all of my judgment. But I disagreed with it. For sure.

and comments flowing. Maybe any super chats for Dylan and myself, we'll make sure we answer those. Will also open up the phone lines here in just a little bit. So, okay, everyone says, hey, fire this guy, fire this guy, fire this guy. The follow up is, well, who the hell's gonna replace him? And hey, we got Tyrod Taylor, you know ty God, we got Jordan Travits, We've got former

UFL MVP Adrian Martinez. So maybe we're all set, baby, Maybe we don't need anything, but Dylan, who is your most optimal whether the one you're rooting for, the one that you're banging the table for, should be the starting quarterback for the New York JITs the twenty twenty five is.

would argue with CJ. Stroud, But if you get two Buckeye quarterbacks Justin Fields and Will Howard to mix with Tyrod Taylor, maybe they all three end up starting a game in twenty twenty five, which isn't really you know, ideal, but other than last year, we've seen this, especially since I has been hired, three quarterbacks start every year, So it looks like we're kind of trending back into that path.

But I would say right now the one that would tickle my fancy the most would be Justin Fields Tyrod Taylor. And then you go get yourself like Will Howard at pick ninety.

all that. How do you look into that because right outside of C. J. Stroud, you know, unless you're a big Troy Smith fan, I guess where do you stand on those evaluations? Because they come up every single year. It's Ohio State quarterbacks is a very prevalent one. But there's all kinds of things like certain colleges and offensive linemen, and some of them could be good. It isn't always bad. Some are good too. But what do you make when that comes up? Is that all hogwash? When fans bring that up?

and change the entire narrative about things. I thought CJ. Stroud was going to do that coming out of Ohio State. So to me, that's one of the very first things I write on my prospect database is gather as many names as possible, scout the name, not the helmet, and then you know from there. It's like injuries, transfers, captain awards, off season opt outs, things like that. So it's very important on the list of things because you catch yourself

doing this. It's like, oh, I watched an Ohio State quarterback last year, or I watched this wide receiver from this school last year. I already have a bad taste in my mouth because of that. So this wide receiver is gonna get knocked. I think it's easy to just wipe everything clean. I don't even look unless it's like late into the film. I don't look at time distance, certain situations when you know, I'll go back and look at Okay, was that a third down, was that a

first down? Whatever? But there's a lot of times I take so much context out of the film just so I can watch the player himself, and a lot of times you just you don't even you look right through the helmet. So I think it's important for people who are trying to get into this stuff to not take a bias one way or the other, because you can have a happy bias and say Lsu produces wide receivers at such an insane rate, like I don't care that Kyraen Lacy just killed somebody in a car accident. I'm

gonna take him anyway. So like there's negatives and positives to it all. I think it's very important to scout the player, not the helmet, because people fall into that quite often.

they can improve their stock. To me, I don't think either one did, and if anything, it made me solidified in my stance of two quarterbacks go at the top Sha Duran Ward, and then you have a drop off until probably pick sixty five, which is the first pick in the third round, and that's where I feel the most comfortable taking that group of guys Dart, milrow Ward, McCord. That's funny Howard and McCord. So I would say they're

all lumped into that group. But Will Howard, to me, maybe it's just a recency bias if I've been watching him all week, but his mechanics, his processing, the size element. He's six five, two thirty five. This is gonna get absolutely blown up in all the worst ways. But it's okay because it's seven thirty in the morning. I like in the way that he plays football to a very very light version of Jalen Hurts, the way that he can maneuver with his mobility, it's not great, but we've

saw Jalen can run. We've I've seen too many plays where Will Howard turned a four yard gain into like a seven to eight yard gain and it didn't need to be you know, he put his shoulder down. I think he can throw the ball all over the field, except his deep accuracy and his deep past strength. I

think those are his two weaknesses for me. But the mechanics and the poise and the calm in the pocket, that's something to me where even Alabama mill Jalen Hurts excuse me showing that, but then Oklahoma Jalen Hurts really showed it to me when he was able to link up with Ceed Lamb. And then you just see that poise and that maturity grow into the NFL. And I'm not saying Howard is gonna mirror Jalen Hurts his career to a t. Obviously, Jalen Hurts is a special talent.

But Will Howard to me, has those traits where it's like, Okay, on third, fourth and one, you need a tush push guy. I've seen Will Howard do it six times now already, and he's gained probably about four yards on every tush push and they're not really pushing him. I don't know if the college rules are a little different, but it's a lot of him generating that yardage. It's not the

running backs pushing him from behind. So to me, if you want to mirror what the Eagles do, I would say, grab a guy like Will Howard because Jalen six to one. Excuse me, Howard six 's four. But the way that they run, the way that they play football, to me, it just kind of speaks the same. So I'm a huge fan of Hurts and I think that that would be a great third round option. Obviously, Hurts was not a first round pick. He was picked fifty one. I

don't think you know, you take Howard high. But if you really think that, if you agree and say that you can see some Jalen Hurts in his game, I don't know. Maybe it is worth a late two, but I still think early three for that entire cluster of quarterbacks.

There's plays that are being clipped out on Twitter that, oh, look at this great NFL Sunday throw, and it's him standing in the pocket delivering while taking a shot, and it's like, okay, in the NFL, though half a second less time he's taking that hit, he's throwing wobbly, he's probably getting picked off. So there's things to like about Dart. I have to fully dive in. I've only done two games of Dart, and now that I have the new film, I have ten more games. So it's a long process.

I wish I didn't have. I have to spend so much time on quarterbacks, but this is the most important position of football, of all of sports. So I'm gonna take my time on these two guys, specifically because I think at the end of the day, the Jets are very likely to grab one of the two.

sometimes he'll call and then just leave. And yeah, someone called him out, so wherever he was in his house, he must have heard a way and then like ran to his computer but had a different jets hat on. I never said anything. I heard just but I just went ahead. No, I'm like, okay, He's like, hey man, you know it's a different appearance, a different op.

hell's going on in Mobile? Okay, obviously we got the Senior Bowl, but like outside of the Ceder Bowl, like you know, Cedier Bowl practices aren't all day and night. What are you doing when Senior Bowl action isn't happening, Dylan derrim.

But shout out to our buddies dom C and Jet's Chaos because they get in line super fast. They get down on the field and they pump out those interviews. So you get the interviews between practices. And then the night life. I mean, you could really do whatever you want. You could stay in and do con. You could go

in you know, downtown and go to the bar. I chose to go to this bar called a Habit Dasher on I believe Tuesday night after the first set of practices, and I'm sitting there eating my steak, just enjoying my drink and talking to some guys that was their first year there, and they're leaving the bar and they turn around and their eyes are wide like they just saw a ghost. And they come running back. They're like, hey, Ian Rappaport and Tom Pelsero are coming in right now.

I was like, okay, like I've seen these guys. It's not a big deal. It wasn't just them. It was it was Ian, it was Tom, it was Jeremy Fowler, Lindsay Rhodes, Mike Mayock, all the ESPN guys, Matt Miller, Matt Bowen, there was another Idzich was there, Dimitrov was there. Like all these guys just started flooding and women, excuse me, He started flooding the bar and I'm sitting there eating my steak and I'm like, oh, okay, let me just push this to the side and joined in on the conversation.

And I've met Matt Miller before in years past at mobile events, so nice guy.

listened and talked and just enjoyed the conversation. And then that's kind of the my favorite part of it, to be honest, Like you walk past like general managers that aren't getting access to the bars because they're so full, but the bouncer doesn't know that that's Quasia Davo Mensa from the Minnesota Vikings that he just said, sorry, we're

at capacity. So it's just so funny that like the and then the former GM group of like Demitrov Izick, all those guys kind of like clustered walking around together in mobile and we were calling them the formers. We were joking around. So it's funny because like, these guys want jobs back. And obviously Demitrov interviewed for and then we hired Rick Spielman, so he is technically another former. So you just never know who you're going to run

into in the night life. And I think that that that interactions and those engagements are probably like you know, second to none like I would do that over going to practice most days if I could just sit there and pick the brain of a lot of these people.

there's all these friggin famous people. I'm sure you'd love to talk to all of them, like, hey, rap for you want to come over here and share some jets, titbits and stuff. So what is the proper social etiquette for that event? You've been there four times, so I'm sure from the first time of Hubba to Hubba to Hubba at the you know, time number four of being there at the bar? What what's a lot? Are you just around to walk up to EDDYGM and start rubbing

elbows and talking it up? Is there like a hey Man? At certain points you're allowed to talk certain points, you're not. What's the social etiquette there, Dylan Tarreman. But you have all these big ass famous people currently in the NFL, players, all this other stuff.

name in five minutes. But I'm I'm so like nervous in crowds of people, especially people that I've been following on Twitter for almost a decade now that I just I happen to follow find uh Will Parkinson inmobile and he's very, very good at the I'm just gonna go say my name and introduce and he's talked to a lot of these people before, so I've kind of found myself weaseling into his conversation, inputting Hey, I'm Dylan, nice to meet you as well. So I'm not good at

introducing myself. So how it happened at the bar was the ESPN guy. It was either Matt. It was either Matt or Jeremy Fowler came up and said, Hey, are these two seats taken? And they weren't. And I said, yeah, to everybody but Matt, they're taken. And I met Matt Miller. But Matt Bowen, and I don't know if you've ever seen him, he's a bit taller. He's got like that like head coach look on his face, like he's gonna

scream at you. And I was like, whoa, Matt, I'm sorry I met Matt Miller because he looked like he was getting getting ready to like chew me out for saying he couldn't sit there. So that was how I broke the ice with them, and then it was just kind of easy to talk. Didn't get a laugh, Yeah, no, Matt got a laugh. Bowen kind of smirked at me until he realized that I was talking about Matt Miller, but at first he was not laughing, and I was like, oh shit. I was like, I gotta I gotta be

careful of who the Matts are in this group. So that was kind of my icebreaker with them because I knew Matt. But other than that, Yeah, you have to go and break the ice. Like I walk up to you know, I say hi to Connor and Trevor from Stock Exchange. I joke with Connor action I'm like, dude, it's not like I can't say I went to the Senior Bowl until I had a discussion with you at

practice and then I check it off my list. So it's always cool to see those guys, But yeah, you have to have the them to go say hi to them, because even if they recognize you, they're not going to come up to you. Of course, even like maybe somebody like you, because you are recognizable. You've had these people on your pods. Maybe if Connor saw you, and Connor is such a nice guy, he would say, oh, hey,

what's up, Paul, and you know, recognize you. But for the most part they have this happened to them all week. That you have to go and find something to joke about or say or try to stand out in a way. So that's the tough part for me is trying to break through that barrier of I have to go introduce myself and and just not care.

But it wasn't a full conversation. But yeah, I think there's one person specifically that I can tell you all.

you're over polited? Yeah, yeah, thanks, Josh, it's Paul, yeah, whatever, and then just like you know, yeah, they said yeah.

a conversation mid practice. So there's times where I've walked up to a guy at the wrong time, and you could just tell he wasn't that interested in any conversation at that time. But then you know, you get him a couple of minutes later when there's a down period or special teams is going on, and he's more willing

to talk to you. So yeah, it's it's a lot of timing, but you could definitely tell the people, especially some of the higher up media guys, like they don't care what your name is or what outlet you work for. They don't care that you're about to ask them to come on your podcast. They just want to enjoy their practice.

was even willing to play that game with somebody. Maybe it's because I was wearing a Jets shirt at the time, but he was very polite and he was like, no, you go first, and I was like, sir, you go first. Like I know who you are, you go first. And then I didn't say go ahead, Rich, No, I don't like, you know, calling everybody out by their name, but like I'll be respectful and say, hey, I you know, I

obviously recognize who you are. And then I look to the left do The entire Jets beat was there, and they were all just looking at this interaction go on with me and Rich and I'm like, hey, guys, how's it going. Like I'm not gonna call everybody out by name, but it was like, you know, Hughes and I don't even remember all the people at the time, there was Jenny Coakley was there nice like there was just so many like every single because the whole beat was there.

But it was nice to see Rich in that you know, manner, because normally people will probably see Rich and think, oh, he's just an old stick in the mud. He doesn't really want to talk to anybody. But he was very friendly just in that small interaction. Maybe again because I was wearing the Jets shirt, but Rich definitely surprised me.

that's about to be spilled. June the GM is here on the show. What's up, Jim?

headsets on Xbox like every day about football. So I was like, dude, why can't we do this about our teams. He's a Packers fan. I'm a Jets fan. So when I moved to South Carolina, I was looking for full time work and I just emailed I think it was like jet Press, jet Nation, all those top outlets at the time, five years ago, and I said, hey, I don't have, you know, college writing experience. I was like, I did okay in high school English classes. I can write.

I was like, but I feel like my knowledge of football is you know, at a level where I could benefit and you guys could benefit from having me on the pod. And Jet Nation just said, hey, we will take you with your experience. It's a volunteer position, but we'd love to have you come right. And it started just you know, small writing, Like the first article I

wrote was the Adam Gase hiring article. I had to edit in a paragraph about Adam Gase getting an interview with the Jets, and I was so excited to do my research on Todd Monkin and Aaron Glenn and Cliff Kingsbury and then editing that, you know, Adam Gay's paragraph in sucked. But then you know, fast forward another year later and they needed a fill in on the pod and all of a sudden, I was like, hey, I'll come on the pod tonight, Like I don't, I have nothing going on. And back then we used to call

in on our phones to blog talk we did. We weren't on YouTube or anything like that. So I was just sitting on my phone for like two hours like this.

of any of these guys developing a quarterback. Yes. With that being said, though, I think Angstrand, with everything he's seen in Detroit, could potentially be that guy that could key in on a quarterback and say, hey, I like Xyz traits, I can work with that and let's roll again. That's putting a lot of faith in a first time

developer of a quarterback. But I think if you're gonna look at a guy who's going to be the developer, it would be Engstrand, and then maybe even Scott Turner because his experience as an OC it's kind of helpful, but he hasn't worked directly with quarterbacks. So yeah, I would say you're putting a lot of hope into it. But Angstrand would be the guy that you would look to to be the developer.

the season went on. I know the Michigan game happened, and that was probably I think that was his last game of the year. So it's kind of hard to end on such a sour note, but I thought decision making got better. His poise was okay in the pocket. Obviously, his escapability out of the pocket was a plus to me because of his athleticism, where a guy like Shdur Sanders he has the athleticism to escape the pocket, but he usually waits a half a second too long and

then he can't get out of the pocket. So Milroe does a good job of getting out and actually like looking for the pass, although I do think when he scrambles he doesn't keep his head up downfield to throw. He more becomes a just takeoff runner, whereas Will Howard he'll keep his head up and look for the pass downfield. So there's a lot to like about Jalen Milroe, a lot to dislike. But going back to the coaching point, we haven't had a guy develop a quarterback, so that's

probably a negative for Milroe. But at the same time, you have a former running back as a quarterback coach. So if you can tap into that run first mentality and then bring along the passing upside of Milroe, then yeah, sure, I think you could convince the Jets to be the team for him. I think you need to have a really solid plan place for Milroe, and the environment needs to be probably a B plus or better talking about your supporting cast, wide receivers, offensive line, run game, which

all need to be improved. So I think Milroe is a fun prospect and I wouldn't mind it, but there's just too many variables where you have to rely on a good coaching staff and a good environment where I'm not necessarily sure the Jets can put all those things in place for him.

But he's used to his wide receivers getting a head start and calling hike as they're running past the line as how Canada works, right, So his timing was completely off the first few days, and that makes sense. He's just not used to a wide receiver starting at zero miles per hour and then getting into his route, so there was timing issues with him. I thought he threw the ball okay. I mean he has an over the top release. He's not more of a side arm guy. So he had the arm angles, but I like his

natural rule arm the bullet. See that's the thing. It didn't pop to me, none of the none of the guys really had pop in their throw except for Tyler Shuck, and I think he's like a twenty six year old aspects, so like he's more of a grown man again amongst boys and that growth. Yes, and none of them really had that. I need to separate myself mentality, I'm gonna go do that. So Algerzma kind of just like fell into the mix of the rest of them and there

was no real like positives or negatives. He's probably an undrafted guy, if I had to be be fair, just because he's so green six years at the position he is, I think a little bit older. I think he's twenty three already, so like there's negatives to work against him. But yeah, no, Unfortunately, no quarterback really solidified themselves to me at Mobile.

he ended up not going. So a guy like him who has his stock already solidified, I'd say it'd probably hurt. But then you look at a guy like I like Will Howard. He came off the National Championship a week before. I understand he's probably banged up. He had the this weird thing on his left hand that they pointed out at the National Championship game, So there's probably an injury, you know, status to him on that one. But he was a guy who I thought could have came in

and been that eighth quarterback. To light it up. Riley Leonard was there, the loser of the National Championship. Obviously, Sorry, I don't mean to pull up stuff like that, but but you know, Riley Leonard was there, and he lost the National Championship, and he had the same amount of time off as Will Howard and he didn't look great. But that's not to say Will Howard was gonna look

bad too. So if Will went in and had a good week at Mobile, I think he could have been like that early second round, maybe even back endo first round. Guy like Jackson Dart is being talked about, because I really wasn't impressed with Dart, and I think the Charlie Weiss tweet is going a little bit further with Dart than most people think. So I wasn't impressed with him, But yeah, there was a there was room for any quarterback really to come in and impress. But I guess

it depends on what your pre drafts processed grade is. Like, if you're getting a high one, you probably don't need to go. But bo Nicks he became a mid one because he went and he performed and he did okay compared to the group. So I guess it would all depend on where your pre draft grade goes.

two defensive line, defensive line. If you want to get an edge at seven, or if Mason Graham falls to seven, you grab that guy and then you just go the inverse in forty two, so you get your interior guy, then you go get your edge in round two. I'm very much an advocate of that. I think this is the draft class. You got interior guys like Darius Alexand from Toledo. He's probably in that second round grouping. Let's

keep scrolling down. Abdul Carter obviously would be the preferred name if you'd dropped to seven, but I like interior guys like Alfred Collins from Texas. Uh, excuse me, Donovan as AAKU from Boston College. He was an edge rusher down in Senior Bowl who had a good week.

And dude, Mike Green is a special prospect. I know the clip of him versus Josh Conerly is going viral, But Conory was playing out a position that day, that's right tackle. He normally plays left tackles, so they put the offensive lineman in a bad position in those drills. But Mike Green's most If you match that up with a Will McDonald and a Jermaine Johnson, that's truly a scary trio. So yeah, I'm all for d line in rounds one and two, to be completely honest.

They Jets wanted to bring him in and say, compete with Tyrod as the backup behind somebody. Sure, but now, how many quarterbacks are you adding to the room. You can't add justin fields. Daniel Jones and Rookie have four quarterbacks with Tarad and all compete with each other. I still think somebody will give him a try, maybe just a camp, you know, try out and at least compete

for the second spot. But I would hope it's not the Jets, to be honest, We've just seen too much of a sample size where he's not gonna be our Sam Darnold well, you know.

a wide receiver tight end. We go tight end and wide receiver vice versa, and bring some more talent in and go Okay, Now the offense has got some talent, the high end talent, and the defensive coaches bring up some of the other guys and and and and and get the best out of them.

round one? So to go, like to use your argument if I'm looking at Mason Graham at pick seven, but I think there's a defensive tackle in rounds two that I can get eighty percent of the production for, I would probably lean towards going defense in the second round and then change my stance in the first round. Now, you can't get cute and do that for every position, because you would talk yourself into the eighty percent version of Teturoa McMillan in the second round if that existed

as well. So you have to look at where the boardlines blue chip wise versus where the Jets are picking, and to me, there's just too many blue chip defensive players in the top of this draft where you probably have to take one if they're sitting there instead of reaching for an offensive need. But in another past classes, the wide receiver position has been stacked, So I would one hundred percent agree with this if the draft class

was aligned that way. I just think there's too much talent on the defensive end at the top where the Jets are picking to go against that. But yeah, I agree your your original point is absolutely true. We should be attacking blue chip offense talent and then supplementing with mid round defensive talent because that's where we know the strength of our head coaching and just defensive coaching staff is.

an offensive lineman. I just want the new regime to do what Joe Douglas hasn't done and find an offensive lineman outside of rounds one or the early parts of round two. Maybe find that third or fourth round tackle who can be your swing guy with developmental upside to be a starter in two years or one year when Morgan Moses leaves. So I'm okay with offensive tackle at seven. But if it's not Will Campbell, it's probably a reach.

So I would again probably look elsewhere and attack that position a little bit later.

fourth best? And I would also add in this additional question because I guess you sort of just talked about it here. But before we even get to Phil's question, cam Ward, what's your prediction of where he goes to this draft?

the swing without having to pay for it. So yeah, I would say the ceiling is one, as floor is probably six or seven.

that's the case with Arch Manning. And I don't know if there's other quarterbacks that are supposed to do this, Like I don't, I don't know, man, like the.

We just had Bo Nicks and all these other you know, the Chicago Bears kid, Caleb Williams, Jane Danners all that. Where would Cam have gone in that class?

Bo Nicks. It seemed like Sean Payton just loved bo Nicks and he wasn't gonna take no for an answer, so it seemed like that was the cliche it only takes one team with Bo Knicks, and that that seemed to obviously be a hit for them so far. So I would have to say QB four would maybe be where his consensus ranking is. Of course, that is, you know, so team dependent that the Jets could have him six so or the Patriots could have him two or whatever.

So I would say comfortably four. But now that I'm looking at the names for next year, dude, he might even be one like Drew Holler to me, like, I don't know, if Drew Aller he could have a good year, we could have a down year. Kid Klubnik from Clemson, I don't really love Moss Miller usc LSU's Garrett Nussmeyer.

Like they're okay quarterbacks, but like it's so hard to project, and any of these guys could have like the Joe Burrow type year in Oh, you were sure he went from a third round pick to the first overall.

Where could him and that staff could have been with QBS ranked over these few years recently?

did they valuate the last two years? We don't know, right, So those are things like if you get those nuggets out of these guys, you'll figure out what they like, kind of like like bo Nicks, Sean Payton, Tempayne married himself to him, right, But Muji would have you know, Moojie in that whole staff would have never been like whatever you want, Sean Payne, or maybe they did, but it worked out. So you know what I mean, I think I've been saying it. I think Mujie's got the

he's got the cohones, he's got the grapefruits. And he put him out there and he said, Aron, you're not that belt guy no more. You're not flashing the belt. You're not in those commercials. Patrick took that from him. We were sorry, you gotta go keep it packing and we're gonna go trade up.

If I do a card fall, snatch him. But then to me it gets a little weird because Walker keeps falling down on draft boards.

You know, that's not that's not that's not a leader on that side of the ball.

from Georgia Tech. And that's, you know, everything that we were promised with Rucker and then some I think, you know, you're not gonna get much of an upside in the past game, but this guy's gonna dog you out in the run game. He's gonna kick you out of the club.

Be An extension of their offensive line. I know the the Lions used Dan Skipper as our sixth offensive lineman, but we have a we have their tight ends coach now is our offensive line coach, So maybe they put emphasis on blocking tight ends so that we can use eligibles to block instead. So I like Jackson Hawes a little bit. And then a sneaky guy who I think is a bit of a tweener at six five, two sixty five is Maliki Matavo from UCLA. I think he could do a little bit of both. So there's definitely

some options just from the Senior Bowl that I like. Now, a wide receiver gets a little bit trickier. This is, I guess, considered a down year comparatively to the you know, massive wide receiver classes we've seen in history. But the top guy to me is Jack besh Uh six' one two twelve. He just had a monster year. A week excuse me, down immobile. He caught a touchdown in almost

every day of team period. He ended up catching the game winning touchdown at the end of the game for the American team, and I think just his story goes a long way because his brother was tragically killed in New Orleans during the terror attack right before, so everybody was like, you know, they had the seven patch on the back for his brother. I think his name was Tiger, and it was just a cool moment for him to like celebrate with his family after the game because it

was like exactly a month since his brother passed. So Jack Besh is one who is a big riser. I had no idea who he was going down and he just put himself on the map and now he's like a top forty five pick, So like, I think he's well in that range. Jaden Higgins uh six three, two seventeen from Iowa State. He's the to me, one of the perfect compliments to Garrett Wilson just from a size profile,

but he's also a smooth mover. He had an inside slot route where he cooked the dB on a free release, just a little stutter step and got out and he had like four yards of separation in the one on one period. So I like Jayden Higgins from Iowa State. I'm trying to give taller profiles of widers I can. I can give you Jalen Royals from Utah State who's five eleven two ten and just say, oh, this is

the the Deebo Samuel type of the draft. I don't think that way, but everybody loves to cling to those, and I just don't think the Jets are gonna covet that having Malachi Corley. So another uh, I guess bigger body wide receiver Horace bru McCoy from Tennessee six two two fifteen. He didn't really do anything like exceptionally well at Senior Bowl, but he did everything to an okay level in my opinions. So it's not the star studded blue chip five deep at the top of wide receiver.

You're probably going to have to get cute in rounds two through four. But I definitely think that there is potential to pair a free agent wide receiver with a draft wide receiver.

We can't have this guy in the field. Just give me Gibson because he doesn't you know, he won't do that full of shit that he did. Excuse my language, you know what I mean, Like because in my mind, I want to know it looks like Coraley. Then if you understand what you just went through, Coraley stands out as a higher prospect still than these guys that are coming out this year.

even if he never touches the ball. But if I saw that play happened five times a game and Malchai got the ball one or two times out of those live I wouldn't mind it, right. I think a lot of stock was put into him fumbling the ball at the goal line. And then we heard the maturity quotes from the coaches, which you never want to hear. But I just think everybody in the building last year was to be candid, immature, like coaching staff, players, front office,

clearly if you were moping. So I think it was just a set of poor circumstances. And now you have a guy like Engstrand who used I'm on raw and Jamison Williams and all their their their two running backs excuse me, gibbson Montgomery. So I think there's a chance that Mali Corley is still special. I loved him in the draft, so I'm not gonna, you know, throw my bias into this so it's more weight and see. But I would definitely not, you know, count him as wide

receiver two. But I definitely wouldn't say, Okay, he's gonna get cut by camp and somebody off the street is going to take his job. I think he could be a wide receiver three for this team, competent.

Wilson in person. I brought my family there. It was raining to all hell, I did the tickets wrong where we're right in front of the rain, so just as the rain was coming down, it was pouring on our heads and the layover water was coming over, and the seat right behind us was bone dry, and some my fiantas just looking at me like and then Garret Wilson didn't even start the game. I'm like, what the hell? So you had that one?

to stay healthy. Deebo kind of the same thing. He had that one I was in yard season, and then ever since they put the running back stuff into his contract, they'd stopped using him like that. So like you used your guy how he should be used, got the best results, and then decided to say Nan never mind. So they're both over thirty, they both had injuries. I would just keep the young guy and save the picks come for Thank you, gentlemen, Thank you Jill.

media to hear more of your great takes? We really enjoyed you on the show today.

Because if his hand size is like eight and a half inches and he's well under the threshold, I got to change a lot of my evaluations. So yeah, at determent and I'm happy to engage with most jests fans.

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The kid out of out of Dame Jack Kisser, he was one of the finalists for the Campbell Award and whatnot. You know, a lot of those players are very smart up here. So that's a player that I would like is nice. I can never pronounce the name bro Allay something or the Dago or whatever it is. But Jalen Reid as a safety, I don't know if you guys have done any research in regards to him. He's another player that I believe we should try to look at

what you get in the later rounds. But I wanted to get your thoughts beg like he there are some things that are out there that you think that's a potential look for US safeties linebacking corps as well in corner.

what is steal? Because the top of the inside linebacker marker right now is making between twenty and nineteen million per year. That's Fred Warner and Roquan Smith. So it's twenty and nineteen million per year. Think about that for a second. So let's just call it the WATERMARKUS twenty million. Quincy Win is making six million a year, the highest pay is making twenty million a year. So Quincy's gonna want a bag. Are the Jets going to pay him? Oh?

I got no freaking clue whether they're gonna pay him. What about CJ. Moseley. He's probably gonna retire or maybe even get released, and if he gets cut, he might be a June one post cut. If they did that, the Jets would say four million dollars, but they eat eight point seven eight million in dead cap. You're only allowed to designate two players as post June one cut, so if they pick Rogers's one, CJ. Moses the other, they'd run out of post June one designations. Another possibility

for that is al Onlazart. So one hundred percent you need linebacker. No one's talking about Johnny That one hundred percent is a need because again, you have to have foresight you're not. That's also a communistconception of the draft. It's not like like, obviously quarterback, we need a quarterback, but like running back like Breece Hall, what are you doing with him? Whether he's coming back or not a

year from now, determines what you're needing for that. So you're not just drafting for twenty twenty five, you're drafting for the future. The GM is thinking multiple steps ahead of roster construction, and linebacker is a massive one that they one hundred percent need. I'll be curious if they try to bring Jamian back. Obviously there's no more ties to his coaching staff, but he's a young player with a lot of upside who is top three in tackles

this year. Linebackers super interesting. Obviously mentioned safety in that entire room is being burned down to the ground. I mean they were Chuck Clark, Ashton Davis, Tony Adams is restricted free agent. We'll see if the Jets end up bringing him back. By the way, salute to real O'Connor long that's out there in the comments section just joining

us this morning. Appreciates you. Salute to Connor. But yeah, so the safety and linebacker rum or two positions, the safety and particular is gonna get lit on fire and corner to your point, you have sauce is Brandon Echole's coming back? DJ Reach guy, you got sauce in Michael Carter the second the rest room is blown up. And then it depends on what you feel about Quante Sticker. So, oh yeah, there's a lot more holes on that defense, and people are talking about exactly exactly.

and I'll talk to Dylan. I'll see all the dirty secrets you could say on Aaron tell me privately, and I will never share those with you people, but I will get a good smile out of it, and then we'll see if we can have doing back on the show. Because that was that was That was a real treat. Dylan was amazing. All right, let's go back to the phone, n y jets fl here on the show. What's up? Ten?

Garrett Wilson at all costs. Ritz Siman he just had a piece that dropped this morning that Garrett Wilson's chances of sticking around with the team have dramatically increased with Aaron Rodgers gone, And I thought that was fascinating that he put that in there. So that which again obviously means the exodus of DeVante Adams and things of that nature.

I'll be curious because I think Garrett Wilson should be a part of the quarterback conversation in terms of, like when we're kind of Vet and I don't think ag is going to do this obviously, with he's cracking the whip. I don't think this is going to be a factor. But I just hope that we get a quarterback that gives Garrett Wilson chances. That's why Jameis Winston is a crazy bastard. But boy, he takes vertical shots, which I would love to see. We haven't seen a lot of

Garrett Wilson eighty yard bombs to the house. I got to see being in Dallas. I got to see the Jets Cowboys game where Garrett Wilson took a slant and booked it to the his on his own ability, not some great design where he was wide open. Garrett just made a play. But I would love to see more shots where we're able to see that part of his game. We see it for all the other top receivers in football to get these bomb touchdowns. Garrett doesn't get those

ops very often. So I wonder if Jameis Winston would be exciting to him because he's got a rocket arm. He's going to turn it all over God's Earth. But you know, it would be interesting to see that because I just don't like Tyrod takes shots. But again, it's hard to really have a good judgment on Tyrod. We haven't seen him in full flower in like seven years, so what kind of quarterback is he still?

some more happening in that room. But again, intriguing offer that you present from Carolina, And why wouldn't I agree with you? Carolina would be it would be desperate enough to give all kinds of things because they want to surround Brightce Young with as much tone as possible, and they probably regret slapping Dj Moore on the trade to the Bear, so I'm sure they'd be willing to pay the iron price. But to me, there is no iron price that exists. I would want to get rid of

Garrett Wilson, and maybe that's where it comes. Right, I say, there's no package available, and then someone goes like three first round picks or something crazy. I go, okay, well, let's check. Everybody's got a price million dollar man. Ha, you know every man has a price. Maybe that's it. I just haven't heard that price.

two Melifano who has both corner and safety versatility. I'll be super curious to see what happens. Uh there, Uh, Walter, I see this comment coming in on the Heavy on Jets facebook page, ask about what about Jordan Travis Connor Hughes. I just saw I mentioned this a couple of days

ago on a late SNYTV hit. They called them an intriguing possibility, but not someone you could consider at all in the quarterback conversation because of his injuries and the setbacks to injuries, so that one's sort of up in the air. Walter, it'd be a great random mystery, right if Jordan Travis ends up being a factor in this quarterback competition, we'll see again. Here's how the quarterback room I view it going to be in twenty twenty five, in some form or fashion. It's gonna be Tyron Taylor

in no particular order. It's gonna be Tyron Taylor, it's gonna be Jordan Travis. There's gonna be a rookie somewhere in there. Again, it doesn't have to be someventh overall, but it will be somewhere in there. And then it's gonna wrap up with a veteran that would be competing with Tyron and maybe Jordan Travis. I don't know, but that will all be competing for that starting job. Again, it's hard to envision it for Travis. It's hard. Hell, Jordan Travis might get cut and be on the practice squad.

It's all gonna depend on the development. But again, this current staff and regime has no ties to him whatsoever. From that perspective, you gonna want to give a shout out to the five hundred people in the room, like the video hit subscribe. I think we've got one more caller. Let me try this BG, Yes, sir, Oh, hey, what's up? Brother? What's going on?

have no idea if that's going to happen. But even if he did, the Jets wouldn't have to reciprocate. Say, okay, Garrett, you're the boss. We'll tend you wherever you want. Like, I hope it never reaches that point. I would give him seismic money. He's the best Jets receiver we've had production wise in his first three years of his career. Man, I want Garrett to retire a Jet. I want him to be here for his entire career. And I don't care what packages or offers come, whether we're a good team,

bad team, or anything. I want Garrett Wilson on it.

and taking it as much intel as possible. The NFL Combine is great with Rich Eyesland, Daniel Jeremiah, they have coaches, gms and everything else. In studios you're talking about the prospects, so there should be a ton of information coming out of that. So I'm really excited. There's a bunch of Syracuse guys. I think there's that are going to be an indie. But I'm looking forward to everybody down there.

them in. So you add those to the table. Indy called in and said, hey, man, Aaron Glenn's a defense a coach. I'm going to paraph this a little bit. He made chicken sound out of chicken shit last year and all these randos playing and the defense wasn't half bad. He doesn't need elite level talent to work. And plus, by the way, he already has it. You got saus Gardner, you got Quincy Williams. You got Quinn Williams got Well McDonald got, Jermaine Johnson got all kinds of fun talent.

Michael Carter the Second got all kinds of talent on defense. He doesn't need the top picks, the top assets, the top resource to invest. Let's go in different directions and allow Aaron Glenn just to make of what he will with the roster, which, by the way, it's a compelling case, Indy, So salute to Indy for that. June the GM said, no sweet love for you that week, Paul. That's for damn sure, June. That's gonna be a lot of a loane time with BG, with all of you guys, but

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