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Hi, I'm Steve Dubell, host of Boxcar Universe, along with my guest, co host Kimberly Shaw. And here's what's coming up on this week's edition of Boxcar Universe. We're talking with the shed gal, Susan Frayer, who is the, well, let's just say she's the shed gal here in the Phoenix market as well as all over the country. And we're going to be talking about some storage things and obviously all of us have those items that we have that we've accumulated.
And we always talk about my good friend George Carlin, who always talks about, you know, we have just have too much stuff. Well, Susan's got the answer to all your stuff because I'm sure after Christmas we're going to have a lot more to find a place for all that and more on this week's edition of Boxcar Universe, your home for remodeling and renovating your world. And I'd like to welcome all of you to Boxcar Universe as we have the countdown to the big day.
Christmas is coming and it's going to be a great, it's going to be a great holiday season for all our listeners and, and we want to be able to actually help all of you get through the holidays a little faster. One of the things I want to make sure that everybody knows about and this comes up every holiday season. Kimberly, you know, we want to thank you for being on the show again, by the way, and it's great to have you back in the studio.
You know, one of the things we talked about during Thanksgiving was the fact that people just have this, I don't know, this epiphany to put anything that they want down their sink in their garbage disposal. And plumbers they make, they make such good money around the holiday season because everybody thinks that they could put anything in their garbage disposal and guess what happens? It clogs up.
I even had one friend of mine who actually had, you know, those food companies that pack food to come in to, you know, for meals and stuff, not just in holidays, but all season long where they come in and they have These gel packs of. Of that keep the food cool. Well, he was such in a remote, he was such in a recycling mode that he turned around and he said, well, you know, it was plastic. The packs are plastic. Well, what he wanted to do was save the plastic that the gel was in.
Oh, no. So wait, guess what he did. What? He emptied the gel packs in his sink and tried to force them down the garbage disposal. And guess what happened? What? It reacted in there and completely clogged up the sink. The P trap. And it overflowed out. It must have been a leak under a sink. It just overflowed under his sink and all his. You know, we all have those cans of stuff that we use in our home, you know, dishwashing soap and bug spray and all that.
The. Everything that was all over the place. I mean, it was. He called me up and he said, steve, could you come over and look at this? Something wrong? I mean, it's all plugged up. I tried to put this down there. I'm like, ernie, why did you do that? So I want to urge all our listeners, please, please be. Make sure. Don't get carried away. You know, just throw it in a waste paper basket. Don't get carried away. You're. Your garbage disposal is good, but it's not a dumpster.
Yes, it just makes sure. But we want to welcome Susan Freyer, the Shed Gal, into the show. And now, you know, we did a podcast on with Susan up in our container pool manufacturers facility about a month or so ago, and now she's. She's on my turf now. Welcome to Boxcar Universe, Susan. Thanks for being here. You know, it's all about. It's all about, you know, doing all these good things for the homeowner.
And what we want to be able to do is talk a little bit about your company and where you're at here in the valley of the sun. And then we also want to weave in a little bit of. Yes, we have the Shed Gal and the Color Gal here. Kimberly's here because she's got her expertise in. In color and design and things like that. So we're going to weave both of those together to make your holiday season very festive and going forth into 2025, it's going to be a great season, a great year.
So tell our listeners a little bit about the Shed Gal. Yeah, well, if you don't mind, can I tell them how we met? Yes, please, by all, please. You know, it's a. Besides, this is what we call, like to say blocks in The Wild. That's right. Oh, that's right. Blocksters in the Wild. So there's a TV show called the Blocks and it's Blox. And Steve and I are, we're both on season 16, which I'm anticipating is probably going to air most likely in February.
Yep. And should be on prime and it'll be on betablocks.com it's not a syndicated show because they don't allow drama. But I think we can both agree the information as far as being an entrepreneur and the education we received in that eight days was like priceless. Oh my God. Absolutely. Yeah. I wouldn't have, I, I wouldn't have second guessed it in the world once we went through it. It was well worth the effort. Oh my gosh, it was so incredible. So that's how we met and then found out.
We both, you know, live in the land of the beautiful sun here in the Phoenix area and we've collaborated on some things. So now to answer your question, what does a shed gal do? A shed gal run some shed gal lots. And I have some wonderful, wonderful, I guess most people would call them employees. I call them team members. We sell sheds, we sell metal buildings, we sell shipping container swimming pools as you and I have collaborated on.
We have play sets currently located just south of 99th and Thomas. We are getting ready to move, hopefully sooner rather than later, up to still on North 99th Avenue, but directly across from the Fear Farm and directly across the freeway from the stadium to a big, huge lot will be the biggest shed lot in the state. At some point we hope to be the biggest shed lot on the west coast. So we take care of the entire state of Arizona here out of this lot for our sheds.
We do metal buildings nationwide. And then I also have a huge shed gal super center in Easley, South Carolina. Wow. Awesome. So you talk about the shed gal is. We'll call her nationwide. Yes. Well, this has never been done before. So prior to us completely revamping our business last year I had several shed lots in Washington state and in Arizona at the same time, had a lot manager run each lot. Every lot was successful.
That had never been done before where you have, you know, states that are not right next to each other. And so we decided to go nationwide. And so we've partnered with a couple of investors and our plan is to literally cover the nation with eight or 10 lots in the next 12 to 24 months. But again, this has never been done before in the shed industry. So it's quite a challenge. But it's so far it's a lot of fun, you know, being on other people's timelines. Hey, city of Glendale, Come on now.
We have a couple of good things that we're saying about the city of Glendale. Yeah, we. I love you, city of Glendale. Let's get this done. We've already been approved to go on the new property, but they're working on the ingress and egress. And I'm sure we're not the only business out there that, you know the paperwork sitting in a pile somewhere and they're getting to it as quickly as possible, but we will get moved sooner rather than later. And we also do U haul.
You can make a reservation through us anywhere, but we have U haul trucks and trailers on our lot. But we're happy to help anyone with the nationwide with a reservation. So we dabble in a lot of different things. We have off grid powered solar. We have a tiny homecoming that's made out of a shipping container. Can't wait to get that on the new lot. So we've really tried to diversify the products so we're not just a shed gal. We're more than that. And gratitude is attitude. That's right.
That's right. Hey, I had a great compliment earlier. You and I were at a networking group earlier and a gal said to me, every time I see a picture of you online, you just exude joy. And I was like, man, how really made my day. It's the logo on your shirt. I know. My hair looks a lot like it today too. I know. I think I have heard of you before coming today. Really? Wow. Wow. So it's kind of cool. You're electrifying.
My husband's listening to this going, so, yeah, I, you know, it's funny how someone can say a compliment or say something negative and it can completely change your attitude. And that just. I just thought that was really nice. I hope that I do bring joy to the people that I'm around, but I love what I do. And the story of how I got into sheds is. It's unique. It's unique.
All right, well, we're going to get into that and we're going to get into a little bit more of the color gal story here a little bit.
And talking about how we could, how we could actually enhance people's lives because, you know, like, I'm sure Kimberly will, you know, talk about, in fact, a good friend of ours, we were talking, Cindy, we were talking about this yesterday that, you know, we have going into 2025, you know, all those standard old drab colors, you know, and, and, and what we used to call the graying of America is over. It's over. 2025 is a new series. So we're going to talk about color trends in 2025.
So everybody stay tuned. You're listening to Box. Cover the future of sustainable lifestyle living with Boxcar Universe. Your go to source for cutting edge container home and container pool information. Want a dream container home or pool? We can build it for you. Hi, I'm Steve Dubell from Boxcar Universe. For the latest in container innovation and expert insights, tune into our weekly podcast, Boxcar Universe. Ready to start your project?
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For more info, visit stardustbuilding.org all right, and we are back and you're listening to Boxcar Universe. And we have a. This is our special holiday show where we have my guest co host, Kimberly Shaw, better known as the color gal, and Susan Frayer, who better known as the shed gal. No, don't go tell everybody about your T shirt now. Be good. That's a secret between just us, us people. That's right, studio guests.
But you we want to talk a little, a couple of things more we want to talk about today. You know, one of the things that we find out about, especially, you know, possibly during the holiday season is, you know, customer service. And I think having people again in any profession, in any sales mode, you need to know the person you want to talk to when you go there. You're, you're looking not just to buy something or get a service.
You want to be able to have, you know, think that they have some kind of expertise in what you're talking to them about. They're not just somebody that they got off the street and paying, you know, minimum wage to just to have a body in the aisle or on the lot or something like that. So I think customer service is very important. And obviously, I mean, you do it with your staff. You got to do training. Oh, yeah.
So how I got into the shed industry, it was about eight years ago up in Washington state and all of a sudden I see all these cute Little shed lots popping up. And I didn't know, I didn't know if they were portable buildings that they're built at a manufacturing plant, delivered to you or on site build. I didn't know. I didn't know anything. I didn't know the difference between a 2x4 and a 2x6. So was this the she shed era? Well, I think it's still the she shed, Eric.
I think, you know, we're trying to figure out who burned down Cheryl, she shed still. But so I, I go to several display lots. Not one was open during their posted business hours. I called and left voicemails. I'm still eight years later waiting for calls back. I did get a hold of one company. I think they were down by Olympia, Washington or something. They're like, hey, here's our email address. Send us what you want and we'll give you a quote. And I was like, oh man.
Like, I didn't know what I wanted because I didn't know what they offered. I didn't, I didn't know what was available. So found a company and, and was actually ordering a shed and went to their manufacturing plant and they're like, we can't sell you a shed here. You have to go through our dealers. I'm like, oh, the same ones that don't ever call me back. All this is going great. I literally was like, for the love of God, can I just buy a shed? So they did. They sold me a shed.
And I said to the owner during that conversation, man, someone needs a decent dealer in this state. Yeah. And he said, yeah, we really do. And I said, well, I think you just found her. Oh, that's fantastic. So we guarantee our customer satisfaction. Sometimes it costs us money. We are not perfect. But this isn't a side gig for, for us most shed dealers, not all most shed dealers. It's their side gig or they need a job or. That is not how we got into this.
I got into this because I thought this is ridiculous. How hard. Yeah. And my team, I mean, they're just as dedicated as I am. And so, and I forgot to mention earlier, we are, we're just trying to firm up a location outside of Nashville, Tennessee for shed Gal. So, but I think customer satisfaction, the other part of that is give people some grace, man.
If you're not going to give grace at this time of year, I don't know, I mean, there's no better time than this time of year to give grace to those working retail. And, and you know, the person who might be tailgating you or going too slow in the fast lane. Whatever it is. Just. Just give some grace. Give yourself some grace. Yeah, absolutely. But at Shed Gal, we encourage our customers to. To check with other companies. They'll see the difference. They'll see the difference in.
In professionalism and knowledge. If they call around, people are spending a big, you know, a large amount of money. You know, we've got sheds that are $5,000 and sheds that are 30,000 and metal buildings that are 2500 and 120 5000. And it cracks me up that I work with shed dealers all the time in training them, and they think everybody wants a quick quote over the phone. I'm like, really?
You think someone who's spending $50,000 expects a quote within two minutes and you don't even ask their name or. Yeah. And so most people in this industry fail, but here we are. That's a great story. Shedgal.com and on Facebook at Shed Gal, the joke is don't look up theshedgal.com because you'll find Pastor Joe in Texas who's pretending like he's me. So it's just Shed gal dot com. You. You mean somebody. Excuse me, somebody is shadowing you? Oh, there's several.
There's James in Illinois, and he's on Facebook as the Shed Gal. And we've got the shed gal.com. it literally is completely a different company out of Texas. He's a pastor. Nice guy. Well, but. Shed gal.com. All right, there you go. You're listening to Boxcar Universe. Improve your home's energy efficiency by calling iPhone your comfort and efficiency insulators. They are the premier foam and bat insulation specialist serving Phoenix's residential and commercial community.
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All right, and we are back, and you're listening to Boxcar Universe right here from the beautiful and palacious Boxcar studios here in Phoenix, Arizona. Welcome to the paint department, man. May I help you? Yes, I'd like to buy some paint. What would you like, interior paint or exterior paint? Exterior. We don't have exterior. We got interior. Okay. Interior. You want that oil based or latex? Oil based. We're all out of oil based. We only have latex. Fine, I'll take latex.
Smooth or textured texture? We got a smooth. I see flat gloss or semi gloss? Flat. Nope. Gloss? Nope. Semi gloss. You got it. You want it washable? Can I get it washable? Nope. Then I don't want it washable. What color paint you want? What colors do you have? Oh, we got any color as long as it's white. You know, it just brings back of. Brings back old memories of Westworld. Yeah. You know, where was that car that we were sitting in? You remember that? I started pictures of that. Oh, that.
Yeah. Talking boxcar. See that? Can't get away from it. Can't get away from it. Yeah. So tell our listeners a little bit about, you know, things that you do. I like to think that the outside of the building is the billboard, and if I've got the calling card right, you're coming in. And if they're coming in and they're greeted at the door and the interior looks great, they're buying. It's just a slam dunk.
People want to associate themselves living in a place that looks and feels like their lifestyle. And so the exterior is widely important, and I think it's Overlooked in so many areas. Architecturally speaking, you know, it's just architects and certain builders like a cookie cutter system because they want to profit. And I think that you really need to know your demographics and who's living or being in that space and what it really means.
And using color and emotion and color to describe where and what is going on inside that building is really important. And so Color Design Development group really focuses on multifamily and commercial buildings. And I have done some single family homes, but I prefer to do multifamily. I like a big splash of color. Our work has been seen all over the United States, which. It's pretty cool because I remember the early days. I was talking to Mel about this before.
How many of our listeners can remember the word or the words phrase paint. Now you're really bringing up. That's. Well, that's. Well, that's when. That's when Carol and I met. When, you know, she was my rep for Frazee Paint years ago. That's right. I got my feet wet in the paint business. I learned all about paint and the importance to use paint to not just decorate, but also to protect. And so the quality is always really important.
But what I learned at Frazee was for Z is how to design for multifamily. And I got tired of the contractors switching the job on me and using a different supplier. So I just kind of went out on my own and said, if you like my designs, hire me. And I got more training and did more research in my homework and got trained in a lot of different aspects. And the last 20 years has been a ride. Well, it's been a. Yeah, it's been a ride. Absolutely.
So a lot of, A lot of different things that have to go into, into thinking about that, you know, and again, talking about the outside of the, the, the dwelling, the curb appeal of what it looks like, I mean, obviously, you know, sometimes, you know, like, Mel, we go in the neighborhood sometimes and. And you see homes or even apartment buildings that. It's like that question, that sentence come up, like, what the heck were they thinking about? You know, like. You know. Yes, absolutely.
The hoas are, are like the, the, the Darth Vader of hoas. If you don't like it, you know, you're done, you're out of here, you know. No, seriously. But some of the colors and stuff that they, they use. And you notice, I think talking about hoas for a minute, I think some of the hoas that I know that I've been affiliated with and I've done painting in the past, you know, that I remember. Like. Okay, like the one I used to live in when I first moved to Arizona.
Okay. There's five colors that you have. You can only make them five colors. Those five colors if you. And then you have to. You can't deviate. You can't flop. The colors from the fascia board to the wall, they has to look this certain way. But certain other ones, as the years go by, you know, I think they've gotten to open it up because the people just said, you know, hey, I want to make my house a different color, and I'm tired of these things. You better start making some changes.
And that's when the. The people on the boards changed. Yeah, that's all of a sudden when people start making. Hey, but we could do this now. It's going to be. I just think it would be nice if they would just open the palette up for door colors. Because your door is so personal. Yes. I mean, I don't care if you have 20 shades of brown, but, gosh, just have a red or aqua or something sassy. Something that when you walk in the house, you know, when you walk the. House, you make a statement.
It pops a little. Yeah, I agree. Well, and also, it identifies, you know, my neighborhood, it's like three shades of brown light, medium dark. And everybody has a brown, dark door. And I'm like, okay, I'm the one with the white mailbox. Like, how do I define where I live? You know? And I don't have my number painted on my curb, but. But if I could have an Aquador. I mean, on the outside of my house, it's very plain. But in the inside of my house, it's a pop of color everywhere.
I mean, my walls are painted. Yeah. Like gold, yellow, and green and Aquadors. And my house is just a clutter of color. That's interesting, because I did an HOA that wanted to revamp their palette, and they were Tuscan, and they had 25 color palettes to choose from. And they're like, we want to expand it. And I said, well, you have a lot of Tuscan colors and already established, yeah, we want white and gray and black. And I said, that doesn't really fit your architecture. Right.
I was like, okay, well, I'm going to give you the colors that I think will work with the Tuscan theme, but the architecture drives. Did you end up going with more of a. I'm curious. Like a Santa Barbara look? Because that's probably. Yeah. The easiest thing to do is to kind of stick with that theme. Hang tight. We'll be right back. You're listening to Boxcar Universe. Hi, I'm Steve Dubell from Ideal Home Improvement. The uncertainty of our economy is very troublesome.
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But remember, even tiny homes need repairs and left unattended, those tiny problems become big problems. Don't let that happen to you know what makes your home tick, Kimberly. So tell us a little more about my new adventure. Your new adventure and your color. Well, the color psychology is just a part of the new adventure.
I said on my website it's adventureretreats VIP and it's going to get a makeover this week as we roll out 2025 and AdventureRetreats VIP is where you'll be able to come and join a venture that will be transformational, that'll be fun, full of pickleball challenges. You can find yoga, relaxation, massage, all sorts of things that are unique to a three night, four day adventure. And it will be here in Scottsdale, Lake Havasu, Vegas and the Southwest Pinetop and Different locations.
You'll be able to see what my husband and I are planning on a bimonthly basis. And it's exciting because we are also gearing up to support Mental Health as our charity. And we have an upcoming walk that. We'll have more details later in this next two weeks about our Walk for Mental Health and our charity that will follow. And we want to give back to the hospitals and we want to give back to people who are recovering from maybe a midlife crisis, an injury.
Anything that we, you know, we all fall down in our life and we need community support to pick us back up and friends, and especially our creator. Absolutely. So, I mean, that's something that's so very important, actually.
You know, with all the hectic schedules that everyone out there has, you know, taking a time out to recharge your batteries and do something like that is going to be so important because I know people, when you run too long, you don't take a break besides your body breaking down. Yeah, your. Your mind, your whole mind breaks down, you know, and. And then you start messing up everything. So you need that time to just decompress. That's why, like, I go, I love to go to Coronado.
Yeah. Just go out, hit the beach, let the sun drain and all the stress into the sand and let the breeze blow over my face and have one of those funny drinks with the. The drinks with the funny umbrella in it, and I'm a happy camper. It's that ocean that renews you, too. Oh, my God. It's so good. It's so good. But the. The one thing we always do, like holiday time is a lot of time to reflect on some things. And, you know, we're all involved in a lot of different things.
And for all our friends on. For the show on Facebook who haven't noticed, but one of the things that I wanted to do when it became an opportunity for me is that recently that are. Our good friend Gia, who actually was part of the Arizona Women's Network, was asked by the Arizona Cardinals to actually carry the flag out at the Arizona Cardinals New England Patriots game. I watched and I wanted. I wanted to be able to do that because she asked me, she says, well, why don't you come do with us?
I'm like, okay, this is going to be really be good. And it was. It was. I wanted to be able to do something because it was our country and obviously to be able to do that. I felt that I was honoring our veterans being able to do that. And it was an Experience that if anybody out there ever has a chance to do it. I mean, this flag was the size of the field, it's 100 yards long, and. And believe me, we had 150 people there doing it. And it was just an amazing experience.
And the crew, I want to give thanks to the crew at the State Farm Stadium because we practiced, we knew how it is. I told people we had to go practice. They're like, what? Practice to carry the flag? Yeah. The flag is 100 yards long. You don't think you're just going to fold it up and put it in your pocket? No. So. But it was a great experience. And you know, thanks again to the Arizona Cardinals and all the people that we actually were able to go out there and experience it.
And then the game was great. The Cardinals won. Yeah. Yay. I watched. Yeah. So that was really great. And we had a lot of good feedback on it. But it was an amazing thing to have happen. And then I happen to find out that another good friend of mine who has a podcast studio in the East Valley, her daughter in law was the singer who sang the national anthem there. And she is just awesome. She has an awesome voice. So kudos to her and everybody that was involved in this. It was a great experience.
You know, win, lose a draw at the end of the season. If the Cardinals get into the playoffs, great. If they don't, you know, they, they had a. You know, I would have to say that I had. This was something that came up that I thought, yeah, I'd love to put this on my bucket list and be able to do. And it was really, it was really good experience. That's awesome. And I love that all your friend networks are really coming together and supporting all of our dreams in different ways.
It's just fantastic. Absolutely, absolutely. Why don't you tell everyone how we can contact you and Kimberly, you first and then Susan and then we'll wrap things up. Great. Kimberly Shaw and Tom Shaw, my husband. Together we're the Shock and Shaws. Shock and Shaw. I love that. That's great. And our pickleball group is the Super Dupers because the D U P R is your rating and that so our. Well, we're gonna have capes made for our super duper team.
All right, well, I don't mean to interject, but I have to ask you a quick question before I forget. Sure. All right. So I saw when I met my friend over at our favorite watering hole, he had two sample pickleball paddles and he had a regular Pickle bowl, you know? So I'm like thinking, okay, this is really cool. I said, can I use my racquetball racket? No. Why? It's bigger. It is, but it has holes in it. Right. And this is a paddle that has. It's all one.
And most of them are honeycomb or fiberglass or the newer ones are. What do they call it? Graphite. Graphite, yeah. Carbon. Carbonite. Carbonite, yeah, Exactly. And so my husband has got these present last year for a gift for my family. And in one year's time, he is breaking more records and winning more games. And his league, he won, and we're so proud of him. But anyways, he plays like four hours or more a day. He's racking up. He's in best shape of his life.
Wow. Yep. And he has rid himself of anxieties. He is. That's amazing. Yeah. He's able to conquer some of his addictions and things that have plagued him in the time. And he's gone through grief of losing a father. So we got things in. In a great way. It's really transforming his life. And I've watched it and I've encouraged it, and we've gone through some ups and downs in our own life, and it's.
And it's been constant for him and where I want to support him all the way to be who he wants to be in his world, which is to be a pickleball star. Oh, my God. On tv. Pickleball star. Make it happen. We're getting. We're getting old. Pickleball. Pickleball star. Yes. All right, Susan, one more time. Where can we find the shed Gal? Yes. So we are just south of Thomas on North 99th Avenue, soon to be directly across from the Fear Farm. Our website is shedgal.com and you can see us on Facebook.
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