Minerva: A Tale of Ancient Spirit Possession

to interrupt me, I don't. I don't like wait until the end because I'll forget what I was saying. There we go, and I'm going to minimize after that's done. Hippy ah, So this slide show here, can you see my sight's coming up? There? We are? Can you see that? Okay? Whoop? I can't hear you. I hope you can hear me there? Can you see that? Okay? Yeah? Alliforn Yeah, okay, So I put this in here because funny enough, the great Seal of California is Minerva. And this goes right along

with my story about my daughter. And a lot of people ask me like, well, why does that have anything to do with your daughter, and I'm like, well, let me tell you a little story about this. So and I think they might be slightly out of order, but that's okay. We went to Italy and we went to Rome and me and my daughter. My daughter had just suffered a horrible sexual assault and she was healing. I cut her out of this photo. She's in it. You can kind of see her to the side there with

the scarf. I don't like to blast her face or anything, because that's wrong. But I am there. You can see. We're there, and this tour guide pops out of nowhere and he comes up to us. We're just standing on the side of this road waiting for my husband to bring back sandwiches. And this nice looking man comes up and I'm like, you gotta go away because my husband is coming. He's not going to like that. So he's like, no, no, no, I'm a tour guide. I'm like sure, right, and he's

like no, no, I promise. So he starts showing me his Instagram. My daughter is very beautiful. So I was like, she's probably trying to talk to my daughter and he's like, no, no, I just barely had the Kardashians on. And I'm like, then, why are you talking to us? Like we're just normal people, you know, like we're getting a sandwich. What do you want? So he says, well, you can join my group, my tour gride group, right, and let me know you're there

occasionally because I can't see you at all. So you there with me, I'm here, okay. Cool? And so when people come up to you like this, you have to remember, I'm a normy at this point. She's healing from a horrible sexual assault at this point, and it wasn't somebody she knew. It wasn't like and not that that makes it any better for the people that ever get assaulted.

is his profile thing. This is like he's really a guide. This is him and Courtney Kardashian. So he's not full of crap and this is the stuff he's showing us, right, so you can see why I was like, you gotta go. Like, my husband's not too jealous, but he wouldn't like this situation. And so he also has been on like he's like a been on the Gladiator. He's been on like a couple shows, like actual shows, like he's like a movie

star or something. So we go on this tour and it's like an off the beaten Path tour and she's already met her guy at this point that comes into you know, the whole thing. But they're just talking and he they met because he walked up to her at a crowded airport and said God told me to talk

to you or I'd regret it the rest of my life. Okay, So again another weird, weird right, Like that's nowadays I would be she asked my opinion on this, and nowadays I would give a totally different answer than what I gave at that time, because now we know like people are assignments, things happen, and I know that now, but I didn't know this then. I was a Christian, but I wasn't very awake right like I wished I had been. So this is us taking this picture, and I am

literally standing on this this building. See I'm on the other side. I'm on those stairs right there. This is the opposite side of it. And you can see what this is called. This is called Santa Maria Sopra Minerva, and that is because this church is built over the top of Minerva's temple ruins. And if you know anything about the story of Minerva and Medusa and all the weird things. This is just a little background on it. It shows that it's in Rome, That's where we were.

The other elephant picture is mine, so you can see I'm on the other side of it, literally standing on the steps of this church, and this is inside the church, and there was renovations happening at that time, and so first of all, that's really important if you're going to upset spirits as they're tearing into the walls of this church and they're doing some weird stuff. And this church is literally above this weird underground portion for the temple.

See it here. This goes down to the temple, nice black and white floor and everything. But anyways, nowadays, i'd be more awake. Wasn't awake, and she acted really weird. And I just put these in here because you can see that I'm telling the truth. Like we're all over roam and this is like the columnade and stuff there, and she's acting like really fussy on this trip, and that's super not like her, Like she's usually fun and outgoing,

and she just wasn't. And you know, I but she had all these issues going on too, and she was healing from things, so you know, you just kind of let things go as a parent. You don't really freak out or nothing. Then he takes us to this underground area that goes down to these tunnels, and above it is this restaurant and this little old lady Sergey dinner and you don't get a pick what you get or anything. You just get what you get. And it was delicious,

by the way, and he seems really nice. She seems really nice. Everything seemed fine. This is us with like literal pictures on the tour with this gladiator guide, and so we stay like a week. I just put these in here kind of for fun because you know, as we're talking, but she seems strange. And when we came back, this would have been for her birthday, which is in March. It's right by the equinox. Her birthday is like really close to it. And then we came home and we

went on a family trip. And this family trip was in California. So we get there and when I say we were off grid, I mean we are really off grid. And I get this airbnb and it is like all ran on solar power. It's out in the middle of the woods, but it's in the red forest and we all go. This was like shortly after it was like really like in June. It was right after her birthday.

We got back from Rome. We went on this trip and the guy was really strange that I rented it from and he had an owl for his profile picture. We're out in the middle of the woods and my kids are all staying. We're all going as a family to this one, whereas the other one we didn't. This

is a really good picture of it. And in the middle of the night, something was trying to get in this house and I did not know what it was, but it slammed the where the top level is so loud it woke everyone up and I was like, what the heck. Not my husband, it didn't wake him up, but the kids me, we're all screaming. We think it's a bear, Like we're freaking out, and my husband's like, you gotta chill out because like, see, this is the door.

So the second level is clear up in the it's far up there, and they're in this loft area that's like clear up this way, and that's where it hit. And I was like, no, there's definitely something trying there's the loft trying to get in this house. And I wake him up, I make him come out, I make him look all around with me, and there's like nothing. We didn't go outside because we were like, eh, if it's a bear, we don't want to die today. So we come back and like we're just chilling, and it

was a full moon. I didn't know this. This is from a picture from one of my actual pictures. It was a full moon when we were there, which was weird. So she's acting way bad on this trip. And when that thing hit the door, she sits straight up in bed, and my little kids are there with her, and they're nine and eight, and she sits up, still asleep and goes, Minerva no and lays back down. She's not even awake. This is real. Well, you have to remember, I'm not awake,

right Like, I have no idea. I have no idea about that temple we visited. I have no idea about any of this stuff yet. I just know we went to Rome, that's all. And I'm like, the kids keep saying it over and over and over again because they think it's hysterical. They think it's so funny. They don't know what it means, but they kept saying the whole trip, Minerva no. And they're like making fun of her hardcore because they're little. They're nine and you know, like nine

to eight, nine and ten right in there. And she was so bad on this trip that I literally told her, like if you need a fly home, because she was a flight attendant, you can go do that, like I will take you to the nearest airport because you're on one, and I'm not about it right now. So my stepson is like going through his we call it his Jesus face, and through this serious Jesus base, which is good, but like he went to the extreme and he was like

almost like Jewish Christian. He got like real crazy. He was like grown out his hair. He was like doing all this crazy stuff like only reading the Bible, wouldn't watch TV, only eating certain things. Like he was getting real wild up. And so I kept having to like travel down to the nearest city to get like supplies, other supplies than stuff I brought because he wasn't going to eat that and all this stuff. So she was super agitated with him. And usually they get along good

because he's like nineteen this point or eighteen. He's older, and they are the closest ones in age other than her sister, who couldn't come well her sister. At the same time this is happening with the kids and her sitting up and saying, Minerva, no, she is in sleep paralysis at my home in Utah, and she calls me. As soon as we get service, I get this message from her that is just flipping out, like same time

it has the times. I remember, we're out in the middle of like no, there's no service out there, there's nothing out there, and I'm running to town to get the stuff for him to eat, and this message comes through and she's like MoMA mom, Like she's like cry, she's hysterical. She's like my really sensitive kid to every She feels things and sees things sometimes and I just feel things. I've never been one to see anything since I was little. Because it's one time happened, it scared me.

That was the end of it. And so I'm like, wow, that was really weird. And then she continues to act this way the whole time. Well, all this time goes by, we come home from our vacation. I don't think anything of this. Remember I'm completely normal, like normy Normyville. Well, my daughter stranges from us in twenty twenty over this guy and she cuts us all off, says we're bad people, we're narcissists. She doesn't love us anymore, like I'm done

with you people kind of thing. And then my daughter comes home one day, my second daughter, the sensitive one. She says, Mom, did you see oh, you got to beat that name out? Did you see her tattoo? And I said no, I'm blocked on everything. Why so this is her tattoo, This is Medusa. These are cherubim all around it. This is what she posted about it. Some people ask why I didn't add color or a flower or something pretty. Well, the meaning behind my tattoo isn't pretty. Medusa.

Just like myself and many other women were raped, Medusa was cursed. This is how I felt after being raped, ugly and low in life. I wanted to represent how I felt in the middle of the curse, beautiful but full with snakes. And yet I also wanted a sense of strength with her. Following my Medusa, there is a guardian angel. I'm assuming this is her husband, because without my angel, I would not be here today. I remembering, I remembering wanting to be gone from the curse, but

an angel kept me here. This tattoo means so much to me. I'm so blessed to be here today, to be alive, and to be a survivor. And so I I didn't know anything about the church. I didn't know anything about anything until one day my husband came home shortly after she got this tattoo and I'll stop sharing. We can just chat now. And he says, Heidi, did you see did you see the check in pop up on Facebook? And I said, no, what do you mean? Let check? What are you talking about? He says, the

check in it popped up today on Facebook? And I said no, I don't know. I don't know what you mean. And he's like, well, you've got to You've got to look at this. So he shows me, and it's that church that I showed you of Minerva the Sober Day Minerva. And if anybody knows the story about Medusa and Minerva, supposedly Medusa was in the church praying for Minerva. She idolized her like she was worshiping her there, and she

was like one of her maidens. And then her dude comes in and caes her and gets all crazy and has to have her right then and rapes her on the floor of that temple. Well, that's where we were in Rome about We went down to that lower level where that was these ruins. But remember I didn't remember. I didn't know any of this. And at this point, I'm more awake. This is in twenty twenty when he

shows me the check in and I start researching. So I found out, you know, this, this church, all this weird stuff, even the guide, even the gladiator dude that was on there, all this stuff. And then on top of it, I start researching about California because that's where we were right after where she said Irva no, and that's the state seal of that freaking state. Everything about California is also linked to Minerva. And she's literally calling

out like no in the middle of the night. And so I have to tell you, like, my daughter is not the same person she was. She will say that to you. She will tell you that herself. She has said that to my mom. I don't speak to her anymore because she doesn't allow it. But I'm like the one person that would have I was the closest to her. So I think when these things sometimes come in, you know, you're the one that is going to be I'm not saying she's fully like engulfed in this. I'm just saying

things attached to us sometimes, you know. And she had been opened up for this with this trauma, and then on top of it some other stuff that had been going on in her life. And so then her prince Charmine comes right up to her in the middle of a crowded airport. And then she never talks to any of us again. And she's this new person and she'll tell anyone like she tells my mom. She tells everybody

like you wouldn't know me anymore. She came here, she emptied out her storage unit, and she was like prom queen and all these things. She threw everything away, all of her keepsakes that she'd kept for all this time, she threw them all away and just walked away from

her life, walked away from all of us. And even when my other daughter, who is pretty sensitive, tries to talk to her and different things, she just nope, It's like, how's the sky, how's your day, how's the class, Like it's like the weather, and like you can't bring up anything with meaning at all. She cut off not only me, but she didn't see anybody from this side of the family for four years, four years, and then she finally came just barely and saw and they have free flight benefit.

She's married to a pilot, so money's not the issue. She lives far away, but money and travel is not the problem. They go all over the place. But I truly believe in that moment she must have had a choice to make whenever all of that went down, and she definitely made her choice. Do I know that she's okay today? I know she's been rebaptized out of the Mormon Church into a Baptist church that I think it's

Baptist that he goes to. I don't know one hundred percent, but I think her heart's probably a lot better than it was. But it worries me, like all these coincidences, all this connection, all of this stuff, and then how she changed, not only like on a mental level, but like in general everything about her is completely different. It's really weird. And so you know, when she got the tattoo about I freaked out. I was like, wow, this is nuts, Like that is that's a lot, like she

has a lot of tattoos. That part didn't bring me out, but like that she would actually get that she knows, she knows nothing.

out are it's a different level. But these this, these oldest ones, it's a different it's a different thing. And when I saw that, I felt the same like you, I felt like, this is a mark on her. This is like a mark on her, you know, And it scares me because everything has changed so much. And when you read about people that are affected. Now, I'm not saying she's not her anymore, but we know that people

get affected by things. We know that channeling happens. We know that things can be accepted, especially if you accept it, especially if you accepted in especially where she says an angel helped her. I'm like, okay, was that her husband or was that a literal angel? And we all know what is the devil described as sometimes right, like a cherubhim, like he was a chair right that, there's it too. Either he was a cherubim or a seraphim. That's what

people say. And I know we don't one hundred percent know the answer, but like just knowing that and hearing that when I saw it, I was like, oh my gosh. And her husband comes from I often wonder he comes from a huge banking family back East and he wouldn't get married. Yeah, he and I was getting into things like when I seen him the second time, which would have been like after that trip, like, oh, it was Halloween.

It was on Halloween, and I would have been telling him things that I'm learning at this point because I'm like getting in it. I'm like, oh my gosh, like not about Medusa, none of that yet, but I'm just like learning about freemasonry, right, I'm learning about little things, little things. So I'm like, he told me, I'm never getting married anywhere but in my church in my hometown.

Ever she has to come here. That's really unusual for a bride because usually the bride's family is where the wedding is, you know, like that's the tradition in I mean normally. And He's like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not getting married anywhere but in my church. And I was like, okay, but it's not like Catholic or anything, like you're not you know, it's not because of he's a Catholic or something, and that's not why he's not. But I found that so odd. I found it he

like systematically dismantled our whole family within six months. And that's a weird. That's weird on its own, you know, let alone this Minervaus stuff going on at the same exact time. It's like the same time. And then she had a roommate that was super into not black magic, what is it called. She was creole, you know what, who do whoo doo? Who do that kind of weird stuff.

They were doing love spells for her before she met this guy, right before, and she told me about it, and I was like no. I was like, no, you can't do that. What are you doing? Why are you doing that? You want you want trouble? That's that, Like, what are you doing? And she was having like really bad cold spirit attacks, like in her room, like feeling cold and like weird stuff and nowhere else in the house.

And I was like, you better be praying, Like I remember telling her you better be praying, like you better pray, and she was like oh. And then so when the husband comes in, the roommate is gone, just disappears out of her life. You tell me that's not in a siment. She unfriends all of us on Facebook. She unfriends everybody, the whole entire family. She unfriends the girl like my daughter,

who she was best friends with for three years. They lived together and was supposed to be like her maid of honor and everything, poof, She's just gone into the night bye, Like it's weird, you know, I thought it was weird. I don't know, but it's a scary, scary situation. I think, Oh yeah, that's pretty strange. I mean to.

else on her list is checked. But what did she have to give up? Every single one of us? Everything else? Yeah? Yeah, And when I'm telling you, like that was her brother and her brother and her member. He was like nine. He's a kid, he's like eight, and they were tight, like she helped me raise him because when she when he was little, I had cancer and so they were close, like so close, like her real child and poof just gone because he told her off one day. He was

only like maybe nine when he told her off. He said, so, why are you treating our mom like this? What are you crazy? Like that's our mom? Like what is wrong with you? Like I don't care, like because she was kind of going off on me, and he's like, I don't care if if mom did something bad when you were younger or whatever. He's like, which, I mean, I was gone a lot and that makes me feel bad, but like I had a nanny. I mean I tried to do the best things I could for them, but yeah,

I was gone a lot. I was the dad. I was the dad and the mom. There was no dad, you know, he took off. So I mean I do I regret absolutely, but like I can't think of anything so horrific, right, Like you try and you rack your brain forever for like a year and a half. I just racked my brain on what I could do, what I could change, what could happen on my end that I could fix this such because like you think you got to fix it, you know, but sometimes you can't.

Sometimes it's not your deal. And it wasn't like I did everything I could like I'll go to therapy with you. I'll I'll get racked over the coals, like I'll say sorry to everybody, Like whatever you want me to do, I'll do it because I missed her so bad, you know, right, And nothing nothing, Nope, So this gets one more step weird. So one day, two days after she came home from the hospital from having a baby, she's had a baby. Now baby looks like me. And they always say, we

don't know who the baby looks like. I'm like, okay, my mom tells them all the time, the baby looks like your mom, that that's fine whatever. She looks an awful lot like me, the daughter does. But she comes home from the hospital and she calls my mom hysterical, and we were right in the middle of having a conversation where and I wasn't like mad mad, but I just said this needs to stop now, and I just hit the table like that that was it, Like that

was as mad as I got. Like we were just talking about it because we were sad about not seeing the baby and not being in the baby's life and stuff. We were just having our own talk. She wasn't on the phone yet. She calls my mom in the middle of this conversation, crying and screaming, screaming, Like I knew that scream was serious. I knew something was wrong. And of course she just had a baby and she had a c section. I was scared something bad happened, you know,

I didn't know. So my mom hands me the phone and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm not supposed to talk to her. I'm trying to be respectful of her wishes. I don't know what to do, like I'm my god. So I say hello, you know, and she's like, lightning struck my house. And I'm like, what lightning struck my house? I'm like when just now? Like so in the time it took for her to call my mom, like literally, that was why we were saying it needed

to stop. Lightning struck her house, hit a gas line in her house and blew her wall out and started a fire. And he ran back in and put it out because he's also a volunteer firefighter, so he ran back in there, no equipment, nothing, put it out. Good for him, that's good. I'm glad everything was fine, everybody was safe. But I found that really funny, like in an odd way, not funny. Ha ha. That lightning struck their house right as we were saying that needed to stop.

And this is when I'm more awake and more like in tune. I knew everything by then, and my mom was like, oh my gosh. And I was like, I didn't wish nothing bad on nobody. I just said it needed to stop, like because my son was like, Mom, I'm like, no, no, I'm not in that business. I don't do wishing on bad people. No, that's not for me. Yeah, So lightning struck their house. It's pretty odd.

like a it's.

like come back to our lives. But I also feel like we're the only things that would know if she was different all of us, because we would know we know her, we know her like real know her, we know her heart, you know, we know who she is. And my daughter and my son and everybody that saw her. First of all, it was on a timeframe. She was here for like three days and he only let him have two hours out to lunch with my mom. It was like in a restaurant, public place, timed you can

take pictures, say hi, blah blah blah. That was it, and like it was very timed. And my son I was like, how was it, you know, are you happy to see her? Are you happy? You know? And he's like, because we had a decision to make in that moment. You know, we have two miners. My husband was like, nope, screw her and the horse. She wrote in on We're not sending our kids. And I'm like, okay, no, like we're not. I'm like, we get to pray about this,

you know, like this is a big deal. What if they don't get to see her again for a long time, what if you know, they get to meet the baby all this stuff. So I'm like I felt different about it because he was. He's just still really mad about the fact because he's like I never did anything. I don't understand. I don't understand he got him too everybody, And I said, I don't feel like that because I don't feel like it's it's you like I did. I did feel like it was at first like we did

something right, we can fix it, it's us. But then at some point you have to say, this is this is their choice for whatever reason, even if it is maybe she just does hate me, Like okay, fine, but this is still a weird story, right, Like at the end of the day, like you want them to be happy and you want them to be well adjusted. So the best thing I knew I could do for my kids,

the little ones, is let them see their sister. Like that's a weird don't do that, you know, you can't like say no. So I let him go and I was like, you don't seem too happy, like are you not that happy? And he's like it was okay, I'm like why, He's like, it's just it was really regimented. It was like that, you know, and he's like it just felt weird, just felt weird. And I was like, well, that's sad. And my little one said she didn't know.

She wanted to go again. If if they came back and she's only ten, and she's like, Mom, I just I don't know. It's not the same and you're not there and it's sad. She's like, it's just so sad knowing that you're like right down the street and you don't get us here. And I'm like, oh, I'm fine. I just played it off. I was like, nah, I'm good, Like I want you to have fun, you know. And she's like, no, but you're our mom. You know you should be with her, like she's here her mom, like

even at ten years old. She's like, I don't get it. And I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. But I think she made a Faustian bargain. I really do. It feels so strange, you know. I hate to say that because she's my kid and I have to tell you, like her name. She was the only one when I got married in the temple and you kneel over an altar and you look into these weird mirrors. She was in me. I was like eight and a half, almost nine months pregnant. I was far like she was due soon,

like maybe three weeks, so she was there. She was within me when I'm like having this done. And actually that's where I got her name is at that time, and I always wonder, man, I'm like, what did I do? You know?

Well it was real, and this sound was like I really wonder if something didn't reach in and just like.

in the right direction. But you know, the Rothschild family is a real thing, you know, and they control a lot of these religions and stuff go back to them, and they're laying with freemasonry and stuff like that. And now there's this weird, weird thing on the Internet where there's like sympathy for Freemasonry, and it's like, no, it's just the people that you feel sympathetic towards. They don't know what's going on because they're not of that kind of spirit that they're going to get told to go

up to this level or that level or whatever. But there's other things going on. It's I describe it as being like a hallway with many doors, and whichever room your personality and your level of morality suits, they'll call you into that door. And then there'll be hundreds of thousands of other people that don't know because they just don't they're.

pentacal ocuputer. And then also this is what is on that parchment right there, And this is commanding spirits and I just barely learned about this, and these are the spirits that are on that parchment as well. And he was directly working with Raphael. And if you notice when it was on that parchment, it's not in a circle, so it's not bound. That means he's working directly with it. With those entities, and this is the founder of that church.

When I went to read the Seals of Solomon, the Greater and Lesser Keys, I found them and look who uploaded him the Greater Key of Solomon digitized by Brigham Young University, by Mormon College, And I was like, what in the heck? And this is their new seal for their priesthood. Yeah, and they call it the seal. They literally call it the sale of Melkezidic. And again it's not in a circle.

of that stuff. I just don't care. I'm like, oh, yeah, that you can describe it to me. I'll tell you what it is. But all these people are so ridiculous. They're so ridiculous.

inside of the ring had an inscription. And I really believe that he had gamons and stuff in it because when he he would take this ring off before he wanted to do anything bad, and he used to do a lot of bad stuff, like criminal stuff, and we did we actually didn't even realize that what was that that was what he was doing until it was too late we found out that he was doing.

made into one symbol. And it's also not inside of the circle either. So it's like, you know, people, we don't understand exactly how deep in the shit we are when it comes to this demonic influence. These entities just running loose looking for people to jump on, and he was full of it. I just recently reconnected with someone who was the little sister of this Ryan guy's girlfriend,

and I remember his girlfriend used to lose it. She would lose her freaking line too, and she was into witchcraft of the dark kind, and she would have like seizures and all kinds of crazy stuff. I remember having to go over there once or twice to help the little sister just like take her away from the house because some crazy stuff was going on. Yeah, this story with your daughter reminds me of my sister. My mother

told me a story when I was really young. I guess back then it was just a story for me, but she told me that my sister never actually write after the age of seven, because she came home one evening and found her in the living room pretending to play school, and she had these rulers and she was like pretend beating the crap out of all the students in the classroom, the so called classroom, And my mother asked her why she did it, and she said, Pernicia made me do it. And my mother was like, who

the hell is Paranicia? And Brnicia was her imaginary friend. And back then they lived in a house that was it was in like nineteen eighty and they lived in a house that was My mother would swear that this house was haunted because one night she got up to go for a glass of water and something pushed her really hard, right into a glass table. This was right around the time that my sister was talking to imaginary

friends and stuff like that. But they eventually left the house and came to this house that well, not this house, but house next to. My family asked two houses one day, see both of our side by side, i should say, And then they eventually moved into this house and that's where they lived. But when they left that house, Bernicia went away, all the imaginary friend talk went away, and all the spooky stuff stopped happening.

real person. Once, that's not an angel, that's necromancy. You're talking to a dead guy, Like, that's not an angel. That's different. You know.

so that right there was weird. Then Joseph has a baby right after he supposedly talks to this angel and gets all these plates that he's you know doing his baby is born and has horrific birth defects and they name it the dead brother's name, and it dies within minutes and it's like all birth defect like problems and stuff, and like, so two of the firstborn sons dead. And then what happens. He gets everything he's wanted, like, I mean, he comes right, I mean, he ends up running for

president of the United States. Yeah, he gets martyred. Later makes you wonder, like why I did get later? Yeah, yeah, when you check it. Charles T. Russell was kind of like on the same thing. He had similar.

you know, Croley's not special, He's not special. Parsons out in the desert. They all paid a price too. It was always sexual in nature. It either starts up with polygamy or they swap wives, or they're doing some weird stuff, like every single time, every single time, God doesn't require that. Do you think God had come down and be like, yeah, swap wives. No, that's weird. No, He's not going to require that sexual will sin to make it happen, Like

that's weird. So every one of them, Yeah, so Jehovah's yeah, witnesses if they have a sin associated with theirs.

that anymore. That's not for me, you know. Yeah, pool me once, fool me once. Come on. Now, I'm okay over here. I'm okay over here. Like nah, I don't trust any of them anymore, especially after learning some things this week, and I'm like, where are your shareholdings, Mormon Church, top ten, Tesla, Apple, all of them are like, like completely, they're just all in together. Elon Musk's top dude is Jared Birchall, who is Mormon, and then one of the top ten holdings of the Mormon Church is Tesla. I

think they're number ten. Apple's like number one. And by the way, United Healthcare Systems uhs, which I'm just like, oh, no, wonder they've pushed that one thing in twenty twenty, got it? Gotcha? Yeah, And now we know why.

When things are weird? What is that. Yes, I totally think that's a thing because I've seen some of the well, I know some verses that have been affected because I've talked to John Kerwin and he talks about the lion and the lamb, and I remember that. I'm old enough that I know it was the lion and the lamb, but it isn't anymore. It's the wolf, the wolf and the lamb. No, it wasn't. The lion has always been representative of Christ always, and now you got a wolf there,

and I'm going, wait a minute, what. It was definitely the lion, though I remember that too. It was the lion. It's representative, like he's he's the king, right, like this is what we've always And then I'm like a wolf what? And then but other people remember it differently and they mandela the shit out of me on that one. I'm like, Okay, I don't know. I guess, but I think it was the lion, but it's not. I found even my oldest Bible says the wolf, and I'm like, ahh, that's a

really old bible. I'm like, okay, that's weird. That's why we're supposed to memorize these things, even if you can't remember what book gets from or whatever, you have the knowledge. That's why we're supposed to have knowledge. That's why we're supposed to do that, because they can do what they want. Money, magic, all kinds of magic. People don't believe in magic.

I'm like, no, it doesn't. And so I was trying to explain it to him and he goes, who cares, I'm scared me because he knows music. Yeah, he knows music. He didn't want to hear it exactly. That's how people act. Yeah.

for him, it scares him. He doesn't want to deal with that process like that that could be possible that they could mess with lyrics, or that could be possible that they could mess with whatever. You know, right, And I'm like, you can go back, like even in live shows, it'll change everywhere, Like on the Mandela John has gone back and showed things where it was like a live concert, and this happened and it didn't happen now and now it's like gone, like that word or that phrase or whatever,

and I'm like, what blew my mind? I didn't even know that that could happen. Like I was like, Okay, that's weird because at first I thought they fix like what's current, you know what I mean, like currently, But no, they can fix other things. So then go backwards. Yeah exactly. It's just oh, it just pisses me off.

she probably was abusive, She probably was this. She probably you know, if you're the mom, especially, you're going to get that. You're going to get like, oh they deserve it, then she must be a bad mom. Dah da dah. And you know what, for a year, I played that game. For a year, I played that game in my mind like maybe I am a narcissist. One time, this doctor at work. I was talking to this doctor and he goes, Heidi,

I can tell you why you're not a narcissist. He started laughing and I was like, don't laugh, it's serious, Like what, and he's like, narcissists don't ask if they're a narcissist. He's like, if you're asking, then you're you're concerned about it, and they don't care. They will never ask themselves that question because they don't want to know that answer. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, so yes, I think you know, you got to look at yourself. You

got to do some self work, for sure. But then if you've done everything within your power, right, you've done all the stuff, you've reached out, you've tried, you have ez like exhausted every effort that you can think of, and it's still not getting anywhere, then we have to look at the story of the Prodigal Sun. And I think that's in there for a reason because, right it teaches us to wait, which I hate because I'm very much like, I'm just gonna go there. I'm just gonna

go there. I'm gonna drive there, I'm gonna show up on a doorstep, I'm gonna tell them, and then I'm like and then I'm gonna look crazy. And so I prayed about it, prayed about it every time I get a no, Nope, you're not driving there, Nope, you're not going there. Nope, you're not going to do that. And I'm like, man, that sucks because I'm very like head on person, like I want to like an attempt to fix it head on, but every time I got a know on that. So I'm like, pray, wait, think, and

get curses off of your life. That's like the main like try and get them off of your life, because you can't do anything about theirs. If it is an attachment, pray against it. But like, ultimately, like you said, right at the end of the day, it has to be them that chooses, like that cut off has to come from somewhere better than me because it's their choice.

that way. If you're angry at someone, You're going to be angry at them until you talk to them and resolve the problem. You don't resolve anything with silence. That just doesn't work. And so if you can communicate, try it. If you can do it with somebody impartial, probably better idea. You know, therapy, I go back and forth on I think it's best to make sure the person is in your best interests because a lot of times now paid therapists like a paid person in your life, like somebody

that has a gain to get. Make sure they're doing it for the right reasons because just like doctors that keep people sick sometimes that too, right, they want to be the person if they step in and say, kick your mom out of your life forever, then now you're going to your therapist for everything. So I mean it kind is a moneymaker there, so be careful, right, be careful of advice. But that goes on both sides of

that story. But like also protect you have to always protect yourself because what if she does have that and she came back tomorrow. You know what if you know, my stinch to her is bad because I'm trying to live this good path now, Like they say that, they say that you know, believers will be hated like the minute they come in a room. And sometimes I feel that, dude, Like sometimes you can feel that on people. And so sometimes you can just only pray. But a journal I prayed,

I went to the scriptures. I just try to do what I can do within my power and give the rest to God, because you can't. You cannot force it. If you try, you're gonna look psychotic. So force is not of God anyways. Honestly, forces control isn't God's. God doesn't control like that, Like, that's not a thing. That's why we have free choice. So I can only hope. I have hope, and I will ever give that up. Yeah, and love and I can love her from a bar. That's all I can do.

because I just wouldn't do that. So alas I have that to give to her, she ever does seek me out, which most often happens, so yeah, yeah can help. All right, WELLI I gotta get out of here. Thank you, Thanks you very much for having me on. Yeah, of course, of course I understand.

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