Bottled Up Bitches is hosted by a horny mary couple. Content may include adult language and themes. Check the description for more details. Your discretion is advised. Its season four. Welcome to Bottle Death Bitches, your favorite sex podcast hosted by a horny married couple with me Rihanna Campbell and me producer Man Adam. Sex shouldn't be taboo or embarrassing, so let's talk about it. How
do we? Doodley neighborna Hey, Hi, Adam, Hey, Rihanna, Hi, everybody, Well, everybody, it's another episode of your favorite sex podcast, Bottle Deathitches. We're out here just living. It's living. Its living. It's when you slay and live at the same time. Hilton got it, Okay, I like to keep you young. That is so they say hot. Yeah, oh that was pretty good. Thanks really, thank you, thank you, thank you. How's your day going so far? Busy? Busy. We've had a busy day today. We've had a busy
uh, you know, twenty something years for sure. But yeah, we've been going, going, going, And I, as always I say I'm super excited, but I was thoroughly excited to talk to our guest today, Jody from a provocative pro pro pro just provocative, provocative, but it's spelled pro provocative. There's a hoe in the middle, because there's all as she said, there's a little hoe in all of us. Yeah, and I think that's just precious. Um. No, I had so much fun getting
to know Jody and how provocative started and learning about her life. It was a good time. I had a thoroughly festive time. Yeah, No, it was. It was fun and listening to her like journey of her ho life, stay Helen, stay Howen, and you know, especially hearing like you know she started this kind of whole lifestyle later in life. Yeah, I go. I talk a lot about my howing years, and my howing years were earlier on because I found you very early. Yeah, And so
it's very fun when people find themselves and they go through their sexuality. Yeah, they start going through all of their journey in a later stage. And it's not even that late. She's like, what thirty, I think she's not like sixty years old finding her way. But the contrast is very fun. I love learning about people's journeys and when they decided to explore their sexuality a little bit more and what that entails so that conversation was just a good
old time. I love I love talking sex, and we got to do a lot of that that we did. That we did, we did. I think the episode speaks for itself. I think everyone's going to be impressed and having a good old time learning about Jody and ten ten recommend going and checking out her podcast as well, Provocative. We'll have all those links in the description which we were. She was kind to have us on a few months ago. Yes, she had us on and it was so much fun.
We did her to meet over the phone, so it was really fine fun getting to see her and over a video and seeing all the facial expressions. I always enjoy that. Yeah, without further ado, I hope you enjoy this episode with Jody of Provocative A professional to what we have today, she's a pro professional. H e h e y name of the episode, name of professional. Yeah, we'll write down. Well, right, I love that. Well, I would love to learn more about that, Jody,
so Provocative. How did that get started? What does that mean to you? Like, I want to know the behind the scenes of starting the brand, because it's not just a podcast. You have your book, you have a whole and going, I want to learn more about what the provocative movement is. Yes, so I'll go back to twenty twenty. Right, So COVID had just you know, shooking up the world and everyone was kind of insight so inside the house, so I had a lot of time with
myself. Twenty twenty was the year I turned thirty. I was just kind of going through this transition in my life and I'm self reflecting, and before I knew it, the end of twenty twenty, I turned thirty and I was like, oh my god, I've never had a whole phase. Like it was really like I turned thirty and I was like, oh my goodness. Like I was in two long term relationships, one from when I was
sixteen till about twenty two. The next one I was about twenty three turning twenty four until thirty because we broke up like around the time I turned thirty. So I'm like, all I know is relationship. Like I've dated people here and there, but I know relationships, and I've never really had an opportunity to just freely date or freely you know, just figure out what it is that I truly want outside of like, oh I really like this person.
Now I'm committed to them Boom years ago by so all of these thoughts are going through my mind and then twenty twenty one that comes around, and then out of nowhere, I'm like, you know what. And then also I will say this, I've always been pretty well spoken and I'm kind of funny on social media, so people have asked me, like, over you should do a podcast. I'm like, I don't even know what the hell that is. Whatever, So twenty twenty one rolls around, so now I'm
actually thinking about it more seriously. You know, it's still COVID. People still haven't transition back into the office or anything like that, so i still have my regular nine of five, and I'm like, you know what, I think I do want to podcast. I want to figure this album and see what I want to do. And the topic that was right as talking about sex. I don't know why it feels right, but that feels right.
So it started out with me saying like, you know what I think I want to do like sex toy reviews or something like that, because at that point that was so that was actually my first time of playing around and dabbling insects toys, so I never owned a sex toy until after my thirtieth birthday, I literally bought myself a sex toy and I was like, okay, this is fun. Um. So by my first sex toy, I wasn't wowed, but I wasn't like, oh no, I'm never you know,
doing this again. Then I bought my second sex toy, which was the Rose. The Rose was my second sex toy and that experience. When I told that story about how it happened, my friends were just laughing because they're like, why is everything a joke with you? So I kind of like told them I set the I set like literally, I'm like, guys, I almost drowned using that rose And I'm like, how did you almost
drown? And I'm like because I was in the tub and then like I put it, turned it on, and then I went like thisn't then fell back in the tub. But it was like the way I told the stories like super funny, right, So then I was like, you know what this feels right, Like just me being myself and telling my stories feels right. But at the time, I didn't even have a name for the podcast.
I just it was just an idea, right. I was like, you know, what I want to talk about sex, So then I want to say it was like maybe around March April of twenty twenty one, and I was high as shit. I like just smoked some weed and I was doing the dishes, and I was like provocative, like out of nowhere, like it just came to me it was provocative, and I was like, but you know what, I'm gonna spell it with a hole in the middle
because now the word is even more provocative. So I took it up it's not and from there, like I was like, that's it, that's the name, Like that's me. I feel like I've always seen myself as a provocative person, Like just the word provocative has always been like like oh my god, I just of how it rolls off the tongue. It just it was just one of those things where it's like, provocative is my favorite word, and I never realized that it was my favorite word until it just said,
like duh, that's the name of the show provocative. And then I just took it up the notch and it's like, in you know, true Jodie fashion, I'm like, how do you take something and then make it even more provocative? Okay, I'm gonna stick a triggering hole in the middle of this episode too. Triggering yeah. Like yeah, so now everyone when they see they're like, pro ho evocative, and I'm like, it's just provocative. Like phonetically you still say provocative, you just kind of you know,
like yeah, so um. But then I was like, okay, cool, I have a name. Then I started like, you know what is what is this gonna mean for me? Because provocative literally started at the beginning of a journey for me. So that's why it means so much to me as well, because it's like, Okay, now I'm going through you know what. You know started out it's like the preliminary stage of my whole phase. This also started out with me finding myself sexually. What is it
that I'm into? How do I want to express myself sexually? And then it eventually was like, okay, you know what, I like playing games, So how do we incorporate like gaming into things? So I created the Provocative Drinking Game. Then eventually, just through the more I learned about sex and the more I educated myself on sex, and I was like, you know what, I want to be a sex coach now because now I have the credentials to be informed to speak on these things. I'm still gonna be
myself, right, still gonna be an entertainer. I'm still gonna crack jokes, but I will also be able to drop some facts and knowledge and gems into these episodes as well as a way to yeah, we're joking, but
we're also moving the conversations forward. How are we having some of these controversial triggering table related conversations in a way that people can say, you know what, I'm gonna think differently about this moving forward, because I think that's still you know, we still have some some ways to go when it comes to that. Oh so uh yeah, that's uh, that's how provocative started.
Uh provocative. Of course, I also still have like T shirts and stuff like that, so it's like any random thing that kind of comes to my mind, I kind of sticking on a T shirt, Like for a while, I'll say like, oh, I'm sad, I think I just need a little bit ahead. And then I was like, you know, I'm gonna put that on a T shirt. And then I put it on a T shirt and it's been well received because people are like, why the hell would you put that on a T shirt and I'm like, I don't know,
like this is how I feel. I think everybody, you know, if you're sad, you deserve some head so um that's yeah. It's just like you know, it's it's a movement for me, right, It's about people, uh not being uncomfortable with expressing themselves, and it's sexually explicit. Um as you want to be or how you want to you know, just
share yourself with the world. So I had to of course overcome my own kind of you know, shame and the barriers associated with my life, and people have seen me on that journey as well, and I think it's super important to talk about those different things so that everyone else is like, oh, you know what, I don't feel uncomfortable living in my truth or you know, living in my skin because there are so many other people that are dealing with it. Oh yeah, there's so much to impact there. Like
a bravo to you for one, because I love that. For one, that we're provocative saying it feels naughty. I don't know if it's just because of what's behind it, but even the way provocative is rolls off the tongue. It sounds very naughty. So the fact that that's your the every day that's the brand, Like it makes me so happy because sometimes I feel like people will insert the words sensual here and there because they don't want to say
sexual Nope, and so like, let's go straightforward. There's different words. We're trying to use different words to sweeten it up, and I'm like, let's be politically correct or softer with it. No, I wanted something that was in your face because I think that's the easiest or the best way for you to be comfortable with your sexuality is to take a head one. We don't kind of oh, let me ease and know what is it that you
like? Figure it out? Like, you don't have to. It doesn't have to take years and years of self discovery for you to figure out like, you know what, I'm a freaky motherfucker. You don't have It doesn't
have to be like that. And I feel like oftentimes society makes us think that it has to be that way, but the honest reality is that a lot of people are engaging in sex before they even do the exploration of their body part, right, So it's like there's there's this kind of disconnect with that where it's like, Okay, you just jumped straight into it because you didn't have the prior knowledge or you didn't know you weren't like, you know,
a strategic in your approach when it came to say, spressing your sexuality. And now you kind of have to go backwards and dissect that and figure out like, oh wait, what is going on here? Why am I into this or why do I have a dis thing for this or whatever the case is. So yeah, for it to be in your face, it kind of forces you to And then here's the thing. Like I talked a
lot about triggering people, right, I love triggering people. That is like, yeah, I want you to be uncomfortable because now you have to take a look at yourself and then say, you know what, I'm uncomfortable because of this reason. Now we can have a conversation. There's always a route. There's always a route. But I love that you said that, because like, I've been having sex since I was fifteen. I didn't have my first orgasm until I was twenty three, so like similar, yeah, similar,
similar, I was having sex at fourteen. I think the very first time I had an orgasm was when I was nineteen so that's five years of having sex. And then orgasms is one of those things where you know when you experience it. Once you experienced it, then it's like, whoa wait, that is so unlike anything I felt before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was funny because my first orgasm I was actually using uh,
I was using a cock ring o word. Yeah. So like me and my boyfriend at the time, we were like, you know, trying something new. We went to the sex store for the first time, so this is my first time the sex store and then I was like, oh, let's try this, and um, that was the very first time I had an orgasm. But I had never used sex toys before, you know, or even after that, so I never used different masturbation purposes. But that was the first time I used a sex toy and that was my first orgasm.
And then I wasn't really having orgasms again until much later after that. But I never you know, I'm looking for me in the beginning years of sex. And this is why on Provocative I have this episode where I was like, oh my god, like the first six years is we having sex? I don't know what. There was no benefit to it. There was literally no real true benefit to me having sex back then, but it took that reflection right. But when I look back on it and I reflect,
I know that I was just doing some shit. That's what it came down to. I'm like, oh, this is my boyfriend. I'm having sex with him, because that is what you do when you're in a relationship. You have sex with your your purse. That's how you show love, it's how you show affections. I'm showing you that I care. But yet in the reality of it, you're having sex for this other person exactly, You're
not having sex for yourself. So it's like now that I'm you know, you know, I've reflected on my journey, I've started to show I you know, talk about it so much. I say, like, we really have to constantly ask ourselves that question, are you having sex for yourself? Because a lot of people don't and they don't realize that they're not having sex
for themselves. So it's like the difference between owning your own pleasure and your own sexual expression versus doing it in a transactional sense where it's like we are in a relationship, so this is what I'm supposed to do, and that's not the thing. You don't get as much a enjoyment out of it as opposed to I'm like, no, you know what, we have two people coming together and we're just we're experiencing each other. Right, It's a different way of looking at it. Yeah, No, absolutely, And I my
journey with having orgasms was very similar. I had to have a sex toy, and I think I don't think you were there. I think it was masturbation, right for what I first time orgasming, Maybe I don't. I don't think you were there. I think I figured that one out on my own. But sometimes you have to. Yeah, I didn't have like a mom or a parent or someone or in my life that says like at some point you just need to touch yourself and figure out what you like. But
sometimes you just have to go you know, manual. We can't. Sometimes not everything is automatic. Sometimes you have to go manual and you have just go down there and touch yourself and figure out, like what do I like? What does this do? And I kind of did that with a toy because I've never been much of a hands on person. I don't know why I still am not. I don't know what it is. I've tried itself for me, but I always like using exploring with a toy. I figured
this out have my first orgasm. It was like great, and then yag, that's what it was. Because then I introduced it in the bedroom with him, and at first he was very put off by it. He was disappointed by it, like if it's different, But also I think you can come off as like a shot to the ego if you're not yeah, really
understanding what's happening, you know, And oh gosh. We got a big fight about it, and I kind of had to break it down for him, and I'm like, how long have you how long have you been orgasmy how like since what you were like fifteen sixteen in a sock? Like how long have you had this? Because I just got this, and you're trying to take it away from me. And when I put it in that perspective of like I've never had that feeling of finishing you have and this and I
just figured out that this is the way I get there. Do not take that away from me, and do not shame me because I just got it. Don't make me insecure about it. And putting it in those terms I think was the most like at that point it clicked for him that this is what I need. It's it is what it is. And then there's all, of course I've explained to him all of the facts around. I think it's only like thirty percent of women have orgasms. It's like it's less than
half. It's super super love, it's like and even thirty. Yeah, like it's a it's a terrible it's very much a terrible percentage. And I think part of what is associated with that as well is um and you alluded to it. You alluded to it a little bit. But this idea of shaming, right, So think about when you're growing up, was sex talked about in your household or not? For a lot of people, it's an we don't talk about, right, Like babies just they you know, we
have all these euphemisms. Babies are delivered by storks and they just come out of nowhere. Right, we are not confidable. So our parents were not comfortable talking about sex. Our parents parents were not talking comfortable talking about sex. Right, So we have generations and generations of shaming being passed down to people. Right, So of course your parents are gonna say, like,
oh, you know what, touch yourself and figure it out. A lot of people think about like, oh, the first time you got caught, Like, you know, I've never been caught masturbating because I didn't start masturbating so much later in life. But I could imagine being a teenager getting caught masturbating in the stilling a shame because now your parents like, what are you
doing? I can't believe you're in here, you know. So it's like those ideas of shaming people for trying to explore their bodies, and we even see it now in adulthood. Like you you try to say, like you know what, oh, masturbate more, and people are like, why do you have to masturbate? That's what your partner is there for. It's not a competition. Yeah, Like I shouldn't have to depend on someone for my
own self pleasure. And it's more so frowned to find when it comes to women, more so than men, because men, you we you know, men kind of get to pass right, they're like, okay, you know, it's like, oh, you're just money man, this is what we do. But it's still around this idea of shaming. So the more that we have these actual conversations, the more people feel more comfortable with exploring their
bodies, and it starts before we get to our damn thirties. It's no way in hell that people have to you know, wait so long in life and being figure this shit out when we should be doing this, you know, at a younger age. So but we also it's like, you know, it's not really an age, and it's like what what is appropriate and what feels right? It has to be natural. It has to be a
natural transition for sure. Well, and I think like, and something I love about your show and our showing kind of the other shows in this category is I still think there's this mentality with culture of like, well, women don't get horny. Women, women don't get horny. They're not like, yes, sexual beings, um right. And I think that like almost the way I get horny in a grocery store in publican I'm like I need to get I need to go. But I feel like that that's like because it's
kind of still like a societal norm idea. I do think that affects women's mentality in exploring that. So I think like there's a lot of women that you know, like you, like Rihanna, who kind of it's not up until you know, they're late twenties or thirties before they start exploring their own
self and start masturbating. And then you do have that like, oh, I've spent fifteen or so years not even really understanding how to have sex because for myself because like I'm not supposed to be enjoying it or or you know, I'm a woman, so society tells me that I don't quote enjoy sex or whatever the like mentality is. I just think it's a very common thing of women not really understanding how to enjoy sex for themselves and tell they're later
in life. And I also love or that when a man is finished, I'm yeah, yeah, oh that's a good one. Yeah. And I think that's where, you know, those are barriers that you know, all women kind of have to break away from, and that's where that liberation comes from as well, because once you realize what it is that you like, and it's like, no, if he's finished and I'm not finished, we have to figure something out because you you know, like, how do we
have that conversation as mature adults who are sexually involved with each other? Like Okay, maybe it means that you know, we bring in toys so that I can feel, you know, the same way you're you walk away feeling you know, complete, and you know, like fool and you know whatever kind of you know adjective you want to enter it here to, you know, describe your fulfillment. I want to be fulfilled walking away from this sexual
experience. I don't want to be left hanging, because oftentimes that's what happens, the woman is left hanging. And I think that comes down to the fact that four play is not incorporated to sex enough. If four play was incorporated correctly, a four play should really last. And it's gonna vary from woman a woman because you know, vagina's volbas are not created equally. But it takes a woman anywhere between eighteen to forty minutes to be fully aroused.
And when she's fully aroused, the vagina, the vaginal has depthened. So now you you know, like it's it's it's ready, it's ready. It's like, okay, do you want to pre cook something or do you want to throw it in the microwave. So when a woman is fully aroused, that is when you penetrate her. And if you penetrate her at that moment, it won't take as long for her to get where she needs to go. And I think that's the problem too, because everybody want to spit start,
No, take your time, take your tide. It doesn't have to be rushed. And if four play is again, if four play is done right, then it won't take a woman as long to you know, have an orgasm or you know, even just be you know, because orgasm doesn't necessarily mean that you're finished, right because unlike you know, like typically the it's about the return time, right, So it's like, oh, a woman can't experience back to back orgasm and be like no, I'm still let's
go. Let's go like we keep going. Uh not is easy for a man and he's like, all right, look, give me a minute or two, let me, you know, get myself situated and then we can get back into it. But you know, that's you know, just a difference than like our sexual cycles. But again, what it comes down to is you know, having a conversation with your partner, making sure that you guys are doing for play in a way that works for both of you.
So does that mean like, okay, we're doing oral for this amount of time, or we're gonna do sensual massages, We're going to you know, incorporate toys. Are what are you gonna do that works for you, guys, Because that's what it is. It's a conversation that needs to be had. But oftentimes the conversation is overlooked because it's like will I finished, I don't know what you're gonna do about it, And that's like that's a very selfish you know, it's a very selfish approach. Like well, and men
need to like get their egos aside. We've talked about this on the show. How you know, some women are struggled more or even aren't able to achieve orgasm through penetration. They need more like a culatural stimulation. So men need to like kind of get their ego aside and understand like I may need to bring in a toy, I may need a tool to help me get get this done. You need to do research or do research or figure that out. I mean, at the end of the day, like a penis
cannot vibrate the way a toy does. Like yeah, you know, and here's the thing too, um, just in terms of vibration, men can benefit sexually from vibration as well, Like they don't experience those different sense sensations, right, So, um, I know I piece this in my fallacial class and I say, like, guys, grab you a vibrator and like put them in his ball and see how you react to that while you're like
giving them head. And then it's like if yeah, so you know, try different things because that's the thing like men don't oftentimes you know, uh get those kind of like oh you know what, I'm gonna like massage your penis in a way that it's like it's it's kind of like a hand job, but it's like a little bit more essential, right, like let me let me take care of you in this instance, because I think it's a
cycle. The type of sensuality and sexuality you bring to the bear room as a woman or as a man will be reciprocated, hopefully should be reciprocated. Otherwise you're not you know, having sex with somebody gets it truly sexually compatible with But when it's when you bring that energy into the bedroom, they're gonna be like, you know what, Oh they did this, let me do this for them, right, That's how it should go, right, but yeah, vibration is not just for women. It's for men too. Like
clicks are like little tiny dicks. That's like they have some of the same you know, parts and organs and you know, feelings and sensations, and we have to treat them as such. Yeah, no, I agree. That's here. We got some toy. We got a toy recently from fun Factory and it was we didn't know it was for how many male toys there were outside of flush lights, because like, I feel like it's all I see something to put your penis in, or it's like a doll or something.
But this was like a little rubber handle and you put your pep in there and it like holes around and it was such a vibe. I was like, wow, this is so fun. Look at that. A whole
toy toy for a man. Look at that. Yeah. Yeah, and yeah, there are some toys where it's like, you know, you could just get a little creative with it, where it's like, oh, you know what, instead of using the cock ring the way it's typically used, maybe I put it around my fingers and then I'm like, you know, put it undeath your balls and give you a blow job while while we do it and like, oh, how does this feel? You have to figure
it out the same way. I'd tell people that it's important to pay close attention to your female partners in terms of like what they like and what turns them on. It's the same guy, it's the same guide when it comes to penis owners, Like what is it that they you know? And sometimes they wouldn't won't know that they like it until it's done. So that's the beauty of playing with toys. You're kind of you experience each other in a way that it's like, you know, it's shame free. We're trying to
just figure it out together. And I think that works. Yeah, I think there's a comfortability level that people have to be on with their partner to know we are just going to play and figure this out. You may you may finish, I may finish, we may both finish. None of us might finish because we might just be laughing so hard in my blood. Let's just go get some lunch. Like there's like a like a practice round, Like even if you've been together for a long time, like we need to
just sit down and try these things out. And I feel like that's how it was when we got all those toys because some factory sent us a like three or four different toys to try out, and yeah, it was like salt lamp was on, but the science goggles were on. We were like what is this? Are just sitting here like and that's fun. That's fun, and it's like it's almost like its own kind of you know. That is like the best form of intimacy right where it's like there's no shame here,
we're figuring out together. This is a new experience, like you're literally that's how you know your relationships last longer. That's how you grow your bonds
by experiencing new things together. Like now you have that as like you know, these kind of you know, these memories these stepping stones for a stronger bond because it's like, look, you're really my person, like I this is when it comes to sex and being vulnerable to it infect like that's almost like the ultimate form of vulnerability, right, But a lot of people want to they only they want to kind of control that vulnerability, like I'm only
vulnerable to this extent, right, but being completely vulnerable but with someone to the point where you are using toys and you're laughing and you're like, oh, this is not work. You must strike something else and it's no pressure. It's like that is how you can truly figure out out what your partner like. Hey, beautiful bitches, have you heard of our patreon yet?
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and enjoy all the exclusive benefits to become a very important bitch. Yeah, And there's like it's like it's weirdly, I don't want to say more, but it's a very intense intimacy for me. Like the idea and doing that of where you are just kind of like because it is just a pure enjoyment,
like an all around enjoyment, not just a sexual enjoyment. But when you're like you're making at the play mound with all these toys, Yeah, they're you know, story laughing and like just just having a good time even if it's not working sexually, Like you're just enjoying the experience, which is it's it's a really nice it's funny and see where there are. We've had moments where we've done this and then we end up not having sex. We're just like all right, like we had a good time, Like let's you
are you hungry? Like we just get distracted that there is but it's very intimate and a very nice moment. Yeah, and when you're in a committed relationship, you have to be willing because even though now I'll get back to this because you talk about your whole years, and it makes me really happy that you refer to it as your whole years, because I call my my hoeing years, and I feel like that puts people off sometimes I'm like, well, I don't mean that in a judgmental way. I just think that's
my Like those are my seat active times. I refer to it as my hoeing years. But when you go through those single active times, you're with multiple partners. Oh I liked when they did this. I liked when they did this, you're kind of putting together that exploration of what you like when you're in a committed relationship, you unless you're you know, you're open and
you're swinging, and that's incredible, But you may not do that. You kind of have to be that multiple experience or that multiple partner with your one solo person. Like if I have sex like this all the time, let me mix it up, Let's try something different, because how am I going to grow? How is he going to grow in our sexual journey figuring out what we love, what we like. I don't have all the answers,
although I went through my hoeing years. Yeah, I don't have all the answers in regards to what he could potentially like that we have never tried. So just staying open. Yeah, agree. And sometimes what it comes down to is, again as I say earlier, sometimes you don't know what you
like until you experience it and then you know. That's that's where having multiple partners in these different people from different places and different backgrounds, they bring that experience to the table in your life way, What the hell like that was?
I'm okay? I like that Now. Now I can take that experience and move forward, like I know with me, I've seen like, you know, social media means where they talk about like body counts and they're shaming people who are like, oh no, you shouldn't you know, have sex assist, meeting people whatever, whatever, And I say, like, you know what, I love when I know that a man has had a way significantly more sexual experiences than me. And I want to make a distinction between
having a partner and then having experiences, because you could be well experienced and have the body count doesn't mean anything when it comes to your sexual experience because you're having quality sexual experiences versus someone who's had a lot of partners and you are still whack like the you you haven't really learned anything. You're just like you, you just sticking and going, sticking and going. Like that's not
the same. You have to actually learn from those experiences, right, So when I talk about experience, I'm like, look, if you've had more experience than me, and now you're teaching me, we're in a teaching situation, and now I'm like, oh my god, that's new, that's refreshing.
I've never done this before or I've never felt this way before. And that's where the benefit of having you know, different partners with different experience than you comes into play because now it's like, oh, you know what, I could take this to my next situation and we could have I got now I know how to apply the experience that we've had together to other situations so that I can still continue to have sexual fun. Yeah. Is that how
you feel about it? With me having more experience than you? Uh? Yeah, to a certain extent. But I would say like yours was more of a wantity versus quality thing. I think that's the big difference. Kind of like you were saying that, what did you say, stick it and split it? Um? I don't know. We'll split like split get out of bickest plays. I like that. So, M I don't know a
hundred percent agree with that. No, No, because you know, interestingly, going back to what we were talking about four play, the best four play I've ever had was in high school. So my hoeing years were from fifteen to nineteen, which is really weird and very young and how good could it possibly be when you're in high school with inexperienced boys like fair but two man and I think that's why we put off a little bit with our sexual
journeys as women. I think that because if you have some experience when you're younger, those the adrenaline and the hormones of doing something sneaky, sneaking into a window, making out in a hallway when no one's there, are like you, you put off so many different things because man, kissing alone feels
like the hottest fucking thing you could ever possibly do. Like I always had all those experiences in high school where they're all afraid to touch me, and so it's like forty five minutes and making out and they're slowly putting their hand under my shirt like every five or ten minutes because they're so nervous. Like that was the bomb, Sure, that was the ship, and that that kind of workplay was honestly the best because they were and they were all afraid
of having sex. So all we did was for play. We did, you know, making out during a movie and just like underneath the clothes touching or when you do get to finally have a handy in a movie theater, like those experiences felt orgasmic, Like there there's another level to having that type of adrenaline and hormones when you're figuring all of that out when you're younger, sure, Yeah, I do want to say that I don't know like um, when I refer to you know, like my whole years, my whole
experience, my whole journey, I's a it's about intention. For me, it's very much about intention. We talked about how you have sex for other people or are you having sex for yourself? And that was the shift. That was the change. It went from me having sex for other people to me only having sex for myself and me prioritizing my own pleasure. So for me, it was like, no, I'm gonna get mad, like the same way a guy's like, well, I came, what you gonna do?
It was like, no, I'm gonna get mad. So now it's like, Okay, if I have to bring a sex tooyd here, you know, into the bedroom and you feel some type of way, then I know that I shouldn't be having sex with you because this is how I like it. So now it's like, okay, what are we doing because I need to put the same the same way that I pleasure you. Because here's
the thing. Me putting a higher emphasis on making sure that I get I'm satisfied and I'm fulfilled as will does not take away from me wanting to satisfy you on the process. Because here's the thing men are, you know, it's I hate to do the men versus woman things, but men are kind of easily satisfied. It are like, it's easier for you guys to be satisfied versus a woman who is like, it takes a little longer, but
it's worth it. It's worth it's taking a little longer, right. So it's like I look at you know, situations, and I'm like, okay, I remember it was this one guy. I told him, like you know, he was like, oh, will you could bring a woman into the bed room? But I don't like sex toys. And I'm like, see, just for you to say that, I know your mindset. So now I don't want to have sex with you because it's you're making it about you. You're making my pleasure about you instead of my pleasure about me.
Yeah. Yeah, and that's a different Yeah, that's like a different conversation. So it's very awfulitty, but those are you know again, you have to have those conversations because now you know, like you know what this is even work for my time. I'm not gonna just have sex with you just because you want to have sex with me, What am I gonna get out
of it? So that's why even with me, like throughout my whole phase, I would have sex with the same people over and over again because I'm like, I know their mindset, we have a similar sexual mindset, and I know that I'm going to be fulfilled coming out of this. But you know the ones where it was like, oh, we had sex and then I didn't have sex again with you, it's because I'm like, no, we either weren't sexually compatible, we didn't have the same mindset. No,
I tried, it didn't work. I'm not even gonna give it another chance because I know it's not worth it. Versus someone where I was like, no, I like love the way they approach sex. Yeah, so here we can we can we can have fun. We can have fun here. Oh there, it's like, no, we can't have fun over there. I love that with intention? Yes, yes, you know, yes, you have to look we we we you do all these other things with intention.
Why not be intentional with your couchee, Like, let's let's let's put that out there, like, let's be intentional with our sexual choices and our sexual intention, because I think that's what it comes down to, Like when you say, like, you know what, I'm going to have a good experience because I'm gonna do my part to make sure and ensure that I'm gonna have a good experience. So what does that mean? Does it mean I
have certain types of conversations with this particular partner. Doesn't mean that I bring toys and I communicate that up front, and I'm honest and I'm transparent. As long as you do your part, you can't be blamed if the sex is not good because you did your part. You didn't just lay there and take it. Because I tell people too, it's like, okay if you don't, if you just lay there and take it, you can't just say it was all on them because you have a mouth. You can't communicate like
you don't have to have sexlessness person, that's part. It's not pleasuring you, or it's not pleasing you have a conversation, figure that out. So fact, we just to bring our convo to a little clothes. We have a an anonymous sex hotline, and okay, I would love the opportunity to play one of these for you, and then we'll talk a little bit about it. We've not heard these ahead of time, so there's a chance there's
a chance whom I listen to one and listen to a different one. We've had a few leave them and they're like not serious, and I'm like, okay, well on to the nice, nice, nice, Yeah, let's let's give it a listen. I kind of want to do that. We're provocative at some point, but nobody has been leaving me voicemail, so I don't know eventually, and we had not listened to these ahead of time,
so it'll be fresh for both of us. And doing this with the guests is our first time, so you're gonna be a bit of a guinea pig here. Yeay, yay, Okay. So I hooked up with this guy from Kinder, my first ever Kinder hook up. It has only as of the farm, and he was pretty into some things I had never done before, including he like taking my stocks off and licking my feet and then wanted me to like his feet put his toes in my mouth, which I had
never done before, nor was I really interested in doing. But there's just some giggles. I did it anyways, and I wasn't really into it. But I think he was. And then turns out the next time we hung out, I talked to him about it and I said, so, you're really into feet. He's like, no, not really, you know. I was like, but you licked my feet and you wanted me to lick
yours. He's like, yeah, I just wanted to try it, and that was my first time ever doing that, and I felt a little bit like we could have communicated that, but also what better time to do it than with a total stranger and just try anything. You can always say no, and I appreciated that he was willing to be adventurous and exploratory like that, even though I didn't like it, and I told him that next time. I was like, yeah, I wasn't really into that, and I
don't think he was either. But she liked it enough to want to try it, I guess. And it was kind of funny. It was weird, it was funny, and I learned from her. So that's my confession for now. I had to hold my laugh in. Um, I think
that was okay. So these are kind of my immediate thoughts on that she went into someone who was exploring a kink, and I think all of there are a lot of people that have kink um explored or unexplored either, but being adventurous and being open to explore that like she could have easily said like no, I'm not I'm not doing it, like she could she could have said no, but she kind of went with it and was open to the
experience. So I love when people are sexually open and sexually curious and you know, not shaming someone for wanting to explore something because on I mean, even though she wasn't into it, what if she was into it? What if that was the situation that she would have found out Like oh wait, you know what. Wait I didn't think I would like this, but I do now because I've had that situation before where probably like I'm really big on dental hygiene, Like I've never so much as had a cavity, right,
So I've had braces, I've never had a cavity. I go to the dentist, They're always saying, like, you know, you have great dental hygiene whatever. Right, So when it comes to spitting in mouth, for a long time, I was like, oh my god, why would you want to spit in someone's mouth? Fast forward, I could be doing a
spinning. You could be doing a spitting like you know, we like, I'm cool with it, right, But if there was a point in it wasn't until I was doing it. I was like, oh, you know what, whatever fear or shame that you know was in my head that prevented me from doing it in the past is no longer there. So now I'm a little bit more open, right. Um Me personally, I've never sucked
on anybody's toes. Um, I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like, once you're in the situation, you'll know what you're what you're willing to do right. It has to feel right, like it can't be forced at all. Um So I and I will say this, I am super grateful for at the end her acknowledging that she kind of reflected on the process, and I was like, oh, you know what, I can appreciate this man for trying something because a lot of men are reluctant to
try new things in a nice way. When someone approaches me and it's like, hey, I saw you from across the room, I heard you speaking like I really would love to get to know you. Is it a possibility that we can exchange information when people come to you really respectfully. I'm like, no, but I really appreciate for putting yourself out there because approaching people and new people is really hard. So you keep doing it. Keep doing that. I'm unavailable, but keep doing that, Like, I get very
appreciate it. I was gonna say, the boldness of this guy to like, and it's implied in here that it was their first hook up together, but the boldness firm to us, like throw himself on the cliff out there to see, like, hey, you want to try this? Maybe it's like what she said, like what a better time than with a stranger? I guess what a stranger? I guess. It's like when you know someone you kind of you, you don't want to disappoint them. You don't want
them to fill any type of way about you. You don't you know. It's like all of these uh kind of insecurity yeah right, um that come into play when you know somebody versus somebody you don't know. It's like, I don't give a damn what you think. I'm probably never gonna see you again. Yeah. I also like, no, no, go ahead,
Like I definitely think that's what it came down. Dude. I definitely think it's easier for you to do something when it comes to a stranger because then there's no there's no real shame associated with it, Like you don't have to look at them the next day and be like, oh my god, I can't be like yeah, I'm not talking about down and cover my face and we don't have to talk about this every It doesn't ruin the dating experience. Like I was dating this guy and wanted to sue like, yeah, yeah,
I was gonna say. I also like how it seems like this person didn't necessarily have like you know, you think of like a kinker or an interest of being like, boy, boy, I really want to suck on feet, but it sounds like this guy I kind of didn't have that and was just like I've never tried it. Yeah, let's try it and see
maybe it'll open up something. I think that's a really interesting and like another very like good for you like to just try ship even if it's not there's not this thing in you that's like, hey, I really want to do this, but like just giving it a shot. Well, it could be a situation like um, like with you you say you're not into feet, you're into my feet. Yeah, maybe she had beautiful feet. Maybe he saw his feet he was like, yeah, I'll try that last Travis.
But I on the flip side, he didn't want her to suck his feet too, So I don't there's a whole thing going on. Yeah, Like I think he was just exploring different kinks. I think he's just trying to figure out what his kink is. Yea, and it maybe feet, it maybe I don't know, elbows like people, it could be anything like what are you like, Oh my god, I just really want to all up your elbows or something like. It's this big spectrum of where you can fall
when it comes so like your personal kinks or your fetishes. And I think he's probably just exploring that. So he is. Probably he has a list of things and he's like, I'm gonna try these and figure it out feet and wasn't impressed onto the next or he may try it again and be like,
oh, Okay, this is a better experience. I mean that's how I felt the first time I tried anal, Like I tried antal for the first time, I was like no, And then the second time I was like Okay, we're getting somewhere, so it might be one of those things. Well, my rule is I'll try anything three times. The first time for the initial shock and I don't know what's happening. The second time for I'm not shocked at what's going to happen. I can prepare myself and figure
out how to enjoy it or how to do it. And then a third time like, okay, I know what to do. I need to figure out if with me having knowledge and practicing, if this is for me, so that ye usually my role. I agree. I definitely think if you try something three times under different circumstances, it'll provide different you know, you'll get different feedback, you'll basically acquire different knowledge from those three times trying.
You don't try something once. I'm like, nope, yum. If it got you interesting enough to try it that first time, I think it's worth trying a second and third time for sure. Well, Jody, it's been so much fun talking with you. Where would you like people to find you and provocative? Yes? So you can find me on Instagram. That's probably my go to app. I'm on Instagram the most, Jody. The free costs my handle is at Jody Provocative. That's j O d Y p R h O E d O c A c A v E. That was the
word hope because we all got some home on us. Perfect. But yeah, so I'm on Facebook, but Facebook is kind of you know, it's like, y'all don't really got to follow me. There is at Provocative. You could definitely find me there, But I post the most content on Instagram for sure. Provocative is on all streaming platforms, so you can find Provocative on Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, wherever you listen to podcasts, iHeartRadio, all of that good stuff. You can find me there.
And what else The Provocative website that's where you can get merch from. So that's provocative dot com and the Yeah, I'm yeah. I'm working on getting the visual parts of Provocative once to YouTube by June, because the to your anniversary of Provocative is on six nine, the National Sex Day, So I want to drop like all of the visual content on YouTube by then, so then people will be able to see, like, you know, the
crazy face expressions I make when I tell these funny stories. So yeah, but Instagram, oh yeah, Like Instagram is definitely the best place to find me. If not, on all of the podcast streaming app you can listen to me and we'll provide all those details in the episode description as well, so it's easy for people to find Joey's Instagram and website. I didn't. Is there anything you'd like to add before we No, just thanks, thanks
for coming by and talking to us. Yeah, you guys are great, Like we have fun on my show when you guys came and we talked about intimacy everything. When I talk to you guys, it's a good time. So great. Yes, all the way around. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Thank you again for coming on at the provocative of a couple of months ago. It's a really great episode. But yeah, we're gonna keep driving the converence, the sexual
conversation forward. I think though, that's really what's needed in our industry for sure. Absolutely, well, Hill next time. Thank you again for joining us on today's episode. I had so much fun chatting with you, and for all of you incredible listeners out there, you beautiful bitches, stay horny. If you enjoy today's episode of Balled Up Bitches, be sure to rate and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcast to join in on more of our
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