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Safety Through Surveillance

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Alternate Current Radio Presents - Boiler Room - Learn to protect yourself from predatory mass media

On this episode, Hesher and Spore are joined by Ruckus, Bazed Lit Analyzer, Jay Dyer, Jamie Hanshaw and Sam Chaney. The gang is discussing a TX company that proposes to put boxes of weaponized drones in schools for use in event of a shooting. The Boiler Room is also talking about the now infamous 'DC Sandwich Slinger' who's lost his job in the DoJ and potentially being charged with a crime, Jeffrey Epstein is in the news again as the Obama's sell their Martha's Vineyard property to one of Jeff's billionaire buddies, updates on Haiti and Erik Prince's plans for staffing in the country, Grok's new ADL sponsored ability to make anything into a 'white supremecy dog whistle,' and the formation of AI.gov... all this and more on this episode of Boiler Room

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Speaker 1

Can you dig as.

Speaker 2

You dig?

Speaker 3

Adds, ladies, gentlemen, friends, foes, lurkers, regulars, GMO people, organic.

Speaker 2

People, room in battles.

Speaker 4

Why to what? All?

Speaker 5

Right, Ladies and gentlemen, friends and foes, lurkers and regulars, Welcome back to the boiler room. This meeting of the Social Reject Club is coming to you live over Alternate Current Radio dot Com this August the fourteenth of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4

I'm your host. My call signs hasher.

Speaker 5

I'm Brian McLain, broadcasting live out of Central Texas. It's wonderful to see some of our friends up there in the comments already on YouTube, on X, on Rumble, and in the Discord. I feel like I should probably go to the discord.

Speaker 4

What's going on?

Speaker 5

Great to see everybody there. We've got a great show lined up for you tonight. Got some good friends and colleagues here with me, and it was strange week, per usual. I don't know about you, but I'm finding the socials, the current events, and the power politics to be disinteresting. I am very disinterested in them this week. Every time I look at X, I see the EU, A fed no eur, a fed no EU, a fed argument happening over you know, you know who's and you know what's

and all the stuff that is just normal now. I guess so that's kind of bored me a little bit. Definitely seeing a lot of stuff about surveillance and robotics and AI. I mean, that doesn't go away, and that kind of remains interesting each week for the most part. So definitely seeing some action in Washington, DC, A lot of big talk about cleaning up the streets and all that stuff. Yep, look, we're already getting comments about the surveillance.

Let's see Jason says, if the surveillance state wants to watch me be a fat, lazy American consumer listening to heavy metal all the time, I guess it's their loss. Well it's all our loss, my friend, because we're all paying for it through that tax system that they've got set us set us up here.

Speaker 4

But yes, just think about.

Speaker 5

The wasted power, the wasted water, the waste did effort, the wasted man hours. It's just like, really, you really need to be able to surveil everybody. Okay, Number one, it's not constitutional. Number two, none of us voted to do it. Number three, don't see us saving a lot of lives with your surveillance. See you collecting a lot of data, and we all know what that's for. All right, Well, let's let's say hello to some of our friends here. It looks like we may have a trickle in effect tonight.

Let me get the ruckus among us here, ruckus, what's up? Welcome to the boiler room?

Speaker 6

Holy moly? What is crappening? Well, a lots of crappening. I don't even I have no idea. What's going on? What year is this? What day is this? Who's president? Let's let's start there. I can figure out what year it is if you tell me who's president? Who's president?

Speaker 4

I don't know? George Bush, I'm not sure.

Speaker 6

Okay, So it's ship which one that's not helping?

Speaker 4

The second one?

Speaker 6

I guess that's the second one? Okay? Which term?

Speaker 3

All right?

Speaker 6

I'm so confused.

Speaker 4

Well, probably the worst of the two, which we all know? Which one? That one?

Speaker 6

Whoever it is, they're probably incredibly popular with their base, I'm sure. Anyways, Now obviously it's Trump, but we could say which which Wait a minute, we've all been here before, haven't we.

Speaker 1

Guess we have?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 6

Well, that's that's what a lot of this feels like actually, to be completely honest with you hasher. A lot of this feels like we've haven't we haven't we done this before? Is this a replay? Am I sleeping? Am I dreaming? What's going on? I had some fun earlier on a Facebook post and then I'll let you get to the other people. But I just had to share. Maybe you

understand how I'm feeling about this. It was one from one of those popular follow the Facebook page for boomers, Whi's like, hey, they share like happy you know, inspirational, motivational things and if it's humor, it's like family lead friendly level humor. So they said the single worst movie you sat through hoping it would get better, but it never did. I had to be a little jerk, and I said, the first seven months of twenty twenty five under Trump, and that's where we are. So anyways, thanks

for having me. Looking forward to it. We got a bunch of cool peeps to hang out with this evening, some of the regulars and some new too well familiar faces to some of our audience members, but maybe brand new ones or some of the others. But anyways, thanks again for having me.

Speaker 5

Hash yeah man, great to see you. I'm kind of with you. I alluded to that on the way in. I'm not super up to date on the news this week because it's been very uninteresting and I've been doing things I RL. But nonetheless, we always find plenty to talk about. Let's welcome Jay Dyer and Jamie Hanshaw to the stage.

Speaker 7

What's up you guys, Hey, what's up man? Glad to be back with you guys. Sounds like boiler room is broiler room.

Speaker 5

Still, that's right, the dude abides. We maintain the course, my friend, and uh wow, it's it's great to have you both. Jamie, hello to you as well.

Speaker 8

Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 5

Very good, very good. Glad to hear both of you guys' voices tonight. It's been a minute since you've been on the show, so we're very pleased that you're here. So we're gonna talk a little bit about technocracy tonight, you guys, and of course whatever else floats our boat. But you know, police state stuff, technocracy stuff should be fun. Let me grab Sport real quick. Hopefully spores ready, she's running around doing stuff in the background, joining us over audio tonight.

Speaker 4

Sport, are you there.

Speaker 8

How's it going, Hey, guys, I'm here, happy to be here, and happy to have James Jamie back and always love having rockets of course, and excited to meet Sam Kami.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Well, we're glad to have you as well tonight.

Speaker 5

You've been somewhat scarce in the boiler room and people keep asking me where's more when she's coming back? So I'm glad you're here with us tonight and NOS four If I may, may I introduce the icebreaker for you?

Speaker 8

Yes please?

Speaker 4

All right?

Speaker 5

So this is when I came across on my just Doom scrolling around on the YouTube's and I thought it was something I'd like to get all of my friends here in the boiler rooms take on. This is to do with a company called Guardian Angels. Anyone feel free to ask me to pause as we move through this. I probably won't play the whole clip. You'll get the picture real quick here, but check this out via Fox.

Speaker 9

Hey, Texas based company called Campus Guardian Angel says their high tech drone system could make your child school safer by being able to confront an active shooter in just a matter of seconds. Here to tell us more, as the companies founder and CEO Justin Marson, and Justin you say, this is like having a seal team in the parking lot ready to defend your kids. I don't know what parent would not want that. Walk us through how these drones work.

Speaker 10

Yeah, So we put them in the schools ahead of time, in charging boxes, and if somebody presses a button or alerts us from the school, our job is to respond in five seconds, to be on the suture in fifteen seconds, and to degrade incapacitate in sixty seconds. So we have a central team that's flying them over an ENCRYPTI channel

on the Internet. But because they've already prestaged, they're kind of like a sprinkler system that you already have there in the school that can put effects on that threat immediately.

Speaker 9

I mean, you mentioned the timing of this, and I'm shocked by that how quickly you can do it. Five seconds is the amount of time you need to connect to a school from your central station there in Austin, Texas. When I hear that, when I hear you can disable this person in sometimes less than sixty seconds, I think to myself, that is way quicker than even the fastest police can get to a scene, and that's going to save lives.

Speaker 6

Justin that's right.

Speaker 10

Yeah, I mean in mass shootings, most of the shooting happens in the first humbred and twenty seconds, and actually the majority of mass shootings are over before law enforcement arrives on the scene. And so it's really similar to the sprinklers. You know, you've got to be there already. And in some of the joint tests we've done with schools, even when law enforcement's on site, we still get there a minute before law enforcement can get there just because

we're staged throughout the building. We can run, you know, we fly really fast, similar to like again, you know, a sprinkler system. As soon as you press the button and water runs through the pipes, it's already doing its thing, and it takes a lot longer for a fireman with a hose pipe to get there than a sprinkler system that's already set up.

Speaker 4

All right, I'm gonna posit right there, Jay and Jamie.

Speaker 5

I don't know if you guys could see the video on that or not, but for anyone out there that's on listening and they're showing these drones just like crashing through the uh double pane windows of schoolrooms and stuff. So if they have to enter from the outside, apparently they can just breach the window. But I don't know. Pretty crazy stuff. Daily shooter program being stopped by a remote operated drone company in Austin, Texas. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 8

Terrifying?

Speaker 11

Sniper drone is what every elementary school needs.

Speaker 8

Yeah, I mean it doesn't It like posts so many questions like okay, so like how is it going to define who the actual shooter is? Like it's it's like the drone has a technology to like be able to like identify it by its teeth or its eyebrows or I mean, like without like any sort of investigation of what's happening, Like how are they going to just be able to target that perpetrator and not like yeah.

Speaker 2

They said within fifteen seconds.

Speaker 8

I don't know how they're going to yeah, yeah, without any mistake.

Speaker 11

Hey, what could go wrong?

Speaker 7

Also, I mean this is there's a much easier, non dystopian solution, which is to have guns on campus the teachers and principles and you know, administrators have access to. In fact, I suggested this at my university, and of course the liberals went insane when I suggested this because they said, no, you got to get under your desk, you know, stop drop and roll if there was Now we didn't have a shooter, but I was saying if we had. They were losing their minds and they were like, no,

you have to wait for the responders. And I'm like, do you think Dylan Kleebold is going to let you wait on their responders?

Speaker 2

What are you talking about?

Speaker 11

This is so.

Speaker 12

Stupid a right, like waiting Like that's like.

Speaker 11

Can you imagine this thing patrolling your school? They're all gonna try and figure out how to take it down, Like that's the only thing they're going to be thinking about, is like how do you what is this thing's achilles heel? Like remember in RoboCop that thing couldn't go downstairs the ultimate killing machine, and it can. It was beat by stairs.

Speaker 8

But but the other thing is too, Like I mean, this kind of technology is like it's not just like that the state or government can use it, but like this is something like if somebody really wanted to be that guy, like they could be the ones with the drones, you know what I mean, Like it could be like coming from the other side and then them word does it go. It's like drones against drones, and like there's just a bunch of people that were killed that's innocent bystanders.

Speaker 11

Why not just a hack the attack drone and then you're the ultimate predator, right?

Speaker 4

I mean, is it blue? Is it bluetooth? That's pretty hackable stuff.

Speaker 5

And the first time I watched this, I was like, you know, it's it's like a four and a half minute long video.

Speaker 4

I'm not going to go through the whole thing.

Speaker 5

But the first time I watched it, I watched the whole thing and I was they didn't really tell me what sort of measures or weaponry this thing has on board. But I realized while I was just playing it right now on the actually here, I'll put on the screen for a second. On the slide that they showed from Campus Guardian Angel, it says fires, powder pellets, powder pellets.

I'm not familiar with what a powder pellet is. It sounds less than lethal though to me, So I don't know how a powder pellet barrage from several drones holds up against someone who maybe has a shotgun or something like that. I would need to know more about, like how they actually think they would be neutralizing threats to really understand it. But I like Jay's idea. How about just let the teachers carry guns Baselet analyzer just joined us.

You missed the video there, but uh, we're talking about this company here in Austin, Texas called Campus Guardian Angel, And what they do is they have a business model where they put a like a black box with several drones in it and they're equipped with powder pellets that it can shoot at a school, shoe tour or something like that, and it's flown.

Speaker 4

But I see you shaking your head already.

Speaker 5

It's flown by people remotely that say they can They say they can respond within five seconds, Like they've got all these people standing by to like launch drone from you know, any school.

Speaker 4

Now, Yeah, what do you think?

Speaker 1

Now? Hey, what's up y'all? Good to see everybody tonight. Sorry I'm late. I just got back from the gym.

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, right, throws around.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 11

Now.

Speaker 1

I've got a personal opinion about this one. None of this, none of this is it's all bullshit. You know that you The only thing that is going to do any good with any of this is when you have armed people in the location and I don't know what other schools are doing, but I know this from personal experience. We have people walking around who are armed, and we have a dedicated a team that can show up in about five seconds, all with with actual assault style weapons,

and everyone is armed. And we have people patrolling the school who are multiple people patrolling patrolling the school who are armed all the time, every day. You have to have that, and that's that's where I am. I don't know about uh, you know, the average place. I'm in a Title one school. It's you know, in a and it would qualify to anyone as a dangerous location. I feel quite safe regardless of any of that. But attack

drones are not. That's that's bullshit. You know, when you're when you're when you're talking about especially you're talking about high schools, that everything is inside, you know, everything is in hallways. If you're talking about college, I guess there's open campus, you know, but none of that matters.

Speaker 9

You.

Speaker 1

You have to have people with who have weapons around and show a force to do that. But the best, you know, the best stop gap against any of those of this stuff is honestly to have a a dedicated, uh culture of civilized people around and unfortunately that's very that's very difficult now and at these you know, we're looking at soft targets, but you know, this this stuff, I mean, look at the in the video. Look at big the windows are. The logistical problems of this are huge.

The windows in schools are not easily shatterable. They and and almost none of them open, and almost none of them are that big the schools. That looks more like it because schools are built by you know, the prison system. It's the same builders now that that looks like a sort of contemporary high school. But you know it's also too tall. I mean, there's just no, it's just no, it just doesn't work.

Speaker 4

I'm just not seeing it. Man.

Speaker 5

They look like they're made of plastic. First of all, I don't see how plastic is supposed to fly through a school window. I mean that's like kind of the same window you would see, like you said, at a prison or a play station.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'll also say this, to get into a school now, it's not like you think it is. It's not like the media portrays it, and it's not like it even like it was a few years ago. There are a series of locked doors that you go through, including metal sets of metal detectors and TSA bodies. We have TSA body scanners at our school, so with people that check every part of your bag, every part of your person

that you can't bring anything in. We had a I don't want to give away too much, but we we had a kid last year who we had a guy who was out of school who walked in and he walked into the lobby and there was a maintenance guy who was working on the roof, like the ceiling tiles, and he had a carpenter's handsaw. And then another kid walked in again they had a gang beef and he

picked in. This one guy immediately walked in, picked up a handsaw and slashed him in the neck and in the face about about seventeen times in about five seconds. There was nothing anybody could do. But it was also in the lobby before you got to the security gate, so that even if you know, he didn't but that was from a guy on the inside who grabbed a weapon in hand of opportunities. So wow, you know, yeah, that's he sounds nice, huh.

Speaker 4

That is hectic, so pleasant.

Speaker 1

But that's anywhere. I mean, that's the world now.

Speaker 4

I think. I think our friend media Bear has it right here. What's up? Media Bear? So silly?

Speaker 5

Those theatrics probably work really well to sell this crap. That's kind of what I'm thinking too.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 5

This seems like a big, like cylindrous style grift. Like I'm sorry, I don't see this.

Speaker 1

This is a government grant that somebody was given. They're looking to spend the money and they know somebody that they can connect with. Yeah, it's just money being spent. But the real solution to any of this stuff, and probably including college, is the first step that anybody should take is to completely ban phones. Phones need to be And I used to not think this. I thought sort

of thought this is sort of a boomer mentality. But we're at a point now where that the detriment that it's caused to anyone in any learning environment of any age is so bad. It's things are so bad with phones they have to be completely banned, and not not even a government ban. They have to be banned on the premises they need something. They just they can't. You know, any kind of education system needs to be completely low tech.

We used to think that it was high tech. We went in the twenty first century and we needed the information super Highway and everybody was gonna be on the Internet, and that's not the way it turned out at all, and we need to go probably no tech. We need to go back to pen and paper, writing research papers is the only thing that would compete with with anyone else, and that would that's a that's a stop in terms of safety.

Speaker 5

So I mean that could save society, don't you think, Jay, Like we just took the tech out of the schools, maybe we could turn all this around.

Speaker 2

Yeah, absolutely, I totally agree.

Speaker 5

Like it sounds radical, but it's such a simple fix. It's just like no, no, no, just take away the doom scroll, take away the prawn, take away the shopping and the likes, and let take.

Speaker 1

Away the drama.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the drama.

Speaker 5

Oh my gosh, what percentage be a what percentage of drama in among student classes you think is started on social media?

Speaker 1

Now? One hundred percent? Yeah, one hundred percent, no doubt, hundred yeah percent. One hundred percent of any kind of drama, whether it's gangs, whether it's actual gang violence, or whether it's people with a beef, or whether it's you know, and that includes parents. I mean parents are in on this uh, and it's just it's completely it's everything's completely

fallen apart as far as that goes. And now people like to say that things start with the parents, but it's gotten it's gotten really bad over the years with this. Just like you know, you would say, I mean one hundred I would say one hundred percent of kids smoke weed. One hundred percent. You know, one hundred percent of drama is caused on social media. I mean, it's it's all. It's sort of all or nothing.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 11

I never went to high school, but I think I didn't miss anything, because social media seems like high school. Like everybody is just yeah, what like trying to be popular in a fake way yep, and accusing people and sleeping together. I mean, I'm reading this thread. I'm not going to say anybody's name or anything like that, but I'm reading this thread about the alt right, and it's like days of our Lives and I can only take one installment at a time because I'm like, who's left with who?

Speaker 8

Now?

Speaker 11

I'm like, what on earth.

Speaker 4

That is driving me crazy this week?

Speaker 5

Like all that stuff going on, It's just like, please make it stop. Like where are we in the timeline? We're going to go back to all this stuff now, and then it's it's I don't even know where we're headed right now as a media and as a people that pretend to care about politics or something.

Speaker 8

I mean, for me, Jamie, like you're exactly right. From my experience from high school, it was everything was fake

and it was all about drama. It was like all drama and like even me I got I was a very good student and I got a four point zero most years or somewhere close to that, and then I would go out and rave every night, and like it was like I was faking and of course, like I mean I got good grades, you know, like I knew how to do it, but like do I remember like what I was supposed to be learning now, Like it was just like the whole experience for me was faith. Yeah.

Speaker 11

So Jay got invited on a pretty big show, and our friend Courtney also got invited on a pretty big show and had a similar experience from where the producers were like, we know you're really smart and in good faith, but that's not what the audience wants. Audience wants they want to see you smash and fight and argue and the heat yeah, so they said bring the heat to him and to Courtney they said, we just want arguments. So it's like Jerry Springer, what.

Speaker 2

It is called Jubilee.

Speaker 7

I mean, Jubilee is the difference that's I mean, every argument it's only two to three minutes. And Jamie's talking about my two times on Piers Morgan where the producers.

Speaker 2

Are like, bring the heat.

Speaker 7

Yeah, but I think there's I mean, it's the same in that on Piers Morgan you only have about two minutes back and forth as well, but you're going to have an hour long discussion, whereas Jubilee only one person is going to run up there and hit the thing and do the two minutes with whoever's in the seat or whatever.

Speaker 2

So it's there.

Speaker 7

They're very different styles, but it's still kind of the same drama based stuff, right.

Speaker 11

Drama based my control.

Speaker 6

Oh my god.

Speaker 4

I just thought that's perfect.

Speaker 6

I see what you did there.

Speaker 7

But at the same time too, it's sort of like people aren't going to change, you know what I mean, Like people watch Jerry Springer, They're going to watch this stuff nowadays.

Speaker 2

They're never going to change.

Speaker 7

There's really no point in like expecting that, you know, oh, society is going to be past drama one day. We're all going to evolve. I mean, we're all gonna you know, it's always going to be this way.

Speaker 8

Yeah, totally, And I think we can all like accept that and like decide how we're going to participate in it. Like I don't. I don't affiliate with good friends and family if like there's a bunch of drama there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like life is going to bring enough drama on its own to you. You don't have to.

Speaker 12

Say yeah exactly, but like I I will admit I am entertained by this mostly fake drama that they put on TV that they call reality TV.

Speaker 7

Like Jamie are watching a show together or that's something that Jamie said, And it's like, do you notice any parallels between your drama show and the internet drama show.

Speaker 8

That we're there's metam.

Speaker 13

Yeah, yeah, or groomed or you know in some brought up in some sort of could they have like symbols like there's it's so crazy and like the other thing that I mean I came in.

Speaker 8

I think we talked about the show Traders. Have you are you familiar with that one?

Speaker 11

Huh?

Speaker 8

Well, it's like it's like it's kind of like it's a smarter uh reality show where it's not like a bunch of dumb people like on Love Island, where like they're just all hot and dumb and like just do ridiculous stuff. But it's like it's like more of a mind game, and it's like it kind of like gives you an idea of like how deceptive people can be.

M hmm, because they're in like a certain circumstances where they might get a certain amount of money, but you can also like see like just how perceptive like the normal or not normal. I don't know what these people are like how how not perspective? Not perspective Like they're receptive? Sorry, okay, they are too like the brainwashing of the producers and they're willing to like kind of go outside of their

morals to accomplish the mission. And it gets it's kind of like diabolical when you get like more involved in watching this crap TV where you see like these people that like you, I mean, I think like a lot of them go out there and like feel like they're going to do like something good, but then you see them get manipulated into doing something that they wouldn't do in their normal life.

Speaker 11

Yeah, and a lot of the producers are manipulating them behind the scenes.

Speaker 8

Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's like I think it's like probably mentally harmful to them.

Speaker 11

They're getting weird with reality shows and like stretching it. I predict like more extreme m trials that people will have to go through then. Yeah, Like mister Beast was talking about a whole series of game shows and it was like not squid Games, but like you know, as close as you could get.

Speaker 5

To it, you know, well didn't didn't We have an icebreaker? Years ago, we're talking about a proposed Russian show that was Running Man or something was.

Speaker 8

In sixteen or something like that we were talking about. It was it was basically Hunger Games. It was a bunch of people in Russia that were put out into the forest and it was like whoever died first or something like that, and like woo, it was like not died first. I don't made the first pill. I don't remember. I honestly don't.

Speaker 4

Violence was not off the table, that's all I remember.

Speaker 8

H Yeah, it was like violence and like you may have no clothes and you were literally running through jungle or you know, forests of Russia and I guess looking for troubles or whatever you do there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, every reality show, just like every movie, is going to be the most dangerous game.

Speaker 4

Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 5

I mean they they they sort of exaggerated in that unreal show that you guys are watching, but it's not exaggerated that much. I don't think it's.

Speaker 8

Well that's I mean, like, how do you really know what's exaggerated? I mean I feel like after watching that, because I have, I'm a shamingly like been watching like Love Island since like twenty eighteen. I never watched Bachelor. I mean, there's a lot I don't watch, but like there're certain ones that are fascinated by.

Speaker 6

But like the Real World or nothing.

Speaker 1

There's a good movie about this. I think it's probably will be closer to the truth than anything that it's from, like twenty sixteen with James Franco called a Nerve, which

is a pretty underrated film. It's a it's a most dangerous game, but it's a in a near future with the internet, you know, Internet trials and games sort of like a kind of like a popular hunger games that you want to be in with a point system and it makes sense, like with the popularity of you know, underground stuff like IP two or you know IRL Lives, you know IRL stuff, it makes sense that would be in the near future illegal m.

Speaker 8

Yeah cool, I want to check that out.

Speaker 1

Like it's a Dave Franco. Sorry, yeah, Dave Franco.

Speaker 5

Okay, yeah, yeah, right on creative accidents. Dug that article up for US twenty sixteen. Russia does the Hunger Games for real in Siberia, but no guns are allowed.

Speaker 8

So like that means like basically you can attack somebody and like strangle them or or or something like that.

Speaker 6

Right, well, head in Fine.

Speaker 11

Do you guys remember that movie Gamer with Gerard Butler.

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 11

Yeah, and his job was to be hunted or something like.

Speaker 1

That, right yeah, yeah he was uh. I think he was given the opportunity to get out of prison by being uh by being in the game, just like in Running Man. But it says but Running Man was a military siop made into it.

Speaker 6

We're going to see this this crap happening here in the name of Like, hey, you don't want to get deported to where Gandama? Right, Yeah, if you're an illegal citizen and we caught you, you don't want to be separated from your family and your twelve kids participate in this insane reality show contest that you know you would probably die, but hey, you might get your citizenship passed. We'll give you the gold visa. Who wouldn't want a gold visa?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 6

Yeah?

Speaker 11

Well, speaking of gamer and game and there's like and technocracy you said was the subject is like, there's this thing called game B. Have y'all heard of that thing?

Speaker 4

No? Due te to me.

Speaker 11

So we've been talking with Courtney Turner a lot about this and it's like this thing tank. So game A is reality like where we live right now, and it's unsustainable and they don't like it and we're choose to pitch to rule ourselves. So we need this like alternate reality, this Game B. Man, I should get my notes and turn the light on because it's just like so much. Hold on.

Speaker 4

For a second, all right?

Speaker 5

Yeah, So Jay, what do you think, man, we're going into hunger games here or what. I never actually got to see this show out of Russia.

Speaker 7

I remember when this came up on Boiler Room.

Speaker 2

I've not seen it.

Speaker 7

I'm surprised that we haven't seen more of that, But I think people are preferring to be so immersed in the virtual that they would not opt for the reality stuff. So I don't even know if reality shows will continue, that they're not going to just die out due to

people immersing themselves in the virtual. And I also think something that you and I said maybe a year ago on a boiler room we were talking about the possibility of AI and how good it's getting and deep fakes and all of that, that I think maybe they are going to flood the Internet with all this crap and essentially destroy it from within, and then they'll say that we have to in some way who are prove our identity in order to use the Internet, which seems like

that's kind of what they're already doing right now with the age verification that's going going in everywhere. So I think that's going to be tied into the coming days when AI will be so proficient that we won't know what things are fake and are real, right, and so the Internet is going to be basically blown up, and then you'll.

Speaker 2

Be forced to be tracked and traced.

Speaker 7

And have an idea to sign on, and then you'll be offered some kind of like you know, virtual thing to live in or something like that would be my.

Speaker 4

Guess, right.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that conversation has come up many times since we had it, and it certainly feels like it's holding true.

Speaker 7

I mean, well, I don't know, did you guys cover the age verification thing that's rolling out everywhere?

Speaker 5

Uh? Which aspect? I mean, we've looked at real id and we've looked at some of the.

Speaker 6

Tube and Spotify were the ones that were big in the news.

Speaker 4

Yeah, they started asking for people's IDs, yep.

Speaker 7

But I think this is going to be They're going to try to push this everywhere under the guise of protecting kids, which obviously they don't care about kids. They think about Epstein, right, Yeah, but I think that's a back door to verifying and tracking and controlling, right.

Speaker 2

Sure.

Speaker 6

I think we when we were doing the T and T stuff, a lot of us and some of your guests and whatnot, we're very keen to this weight. For a while, we were all concerned about that. I know, I was mentioning this in reports, I was doing so Yeah, It's just we all kind of saw this coming. But yeah, here we are, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 5

Right like people now we're we're like looking at entire fields like job fields and going oh okay, like even like we covered that Microsoft article from a couple of weeks ago where they're talking about the forty jobs that you need to be the most worried about and the forty that you're are somewhat okay for now dot dot dot, and it was just like, holy crap, you know, give mean like AI taken them ount yeah, like to be worried about encroaching AI.

Speaker 4

And it was like lyrical stall for what was on there.

Speaker 5

It was like doctors, lawyers, clerical stuff, marketing stuff, programming, uh so much for learned to code, like uh, pretty much all of the white collar stuff you could imagine, and then.

Speaker 1

And then everything pretty much everything except for trades.

Speaker 6

But then that's where disingenuous because the report was coming out even as insiders and everybody understands that robots are going to replace all those jobs that that article was listing courtesy of Microsoft. That is going to be safe. Oh you're going to be fine if you work on cars or you're you know your deliveries right, No you're not. You're here screwed, just.

Speaker 4

Not as fast. Yeah.

Speaker 5

I think that's why they taglined it. That are safe

for now is like okay for now. And it's like another thing we've we've kind of been talking about lately is like there's there seems to be that there's always been this split between the field of robotics and the field of AI, and I feel like that that split is sort of like artificially still there when it doesn't belong there, because there's no difference between like, you know, a robot with an AI involved or a chat GPT, you know what I mean, other than the fact that

one has a physical presence. So I think that's going to be like a big light switch change when it becomes normalized by this robot with.

Speaker 4

This AI on it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

Like you don't really see that being advertised yet, but it's there.

Speaker 4

So, uh, let's see game B do do we do? We have our notes in the light.

Speaker 11

Well, we did a show a couple of months ago called Game B in the Dark Enlightenment talking about these technocrats and think tank bros. And one of well, basically what they're talking about is a techno feudal replacement of what we have now, the democracy, and they want to accelerate the things that would make us go in and change the constitution or burn it down basically like a phoenix. So this is like the secret Destiny of America kind

of plan. And out of the ashes, they want their techno feudal empire.

Speaker 4

Right of course they love it.

Speaker 11

And so you've got the the major players. You've got Elmo and Peter Teal and a lot of this stuff is based on Yeah, you know, you know who Elmo is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but what are you talking about?

Speaker 4

Not musk perhaps, Yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 1

Now I thought you were talking about really like Almo, because Almo is hyperbase a couple.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah. The first chaos meme is the Elmo Hail Satan meme.

Speaker 2

So Elon and Teal and all these characters.

Speaker 11

Yeah, so they don't really like live in reality and they think of things in games because we're just sims to them, and you know, everything is like me and Ruckus talked about that in that show that we did to them, we are just like little things that you can play with.

Speaker 2

And rhymes of song.

Speaker 7

Player of Games is about playing games, yeah.

Speaker 11

Right, and paland here. So he's got like almost at least three different companies that have Lord of the Rings references to them Alex.

Speaker 2

Carp Has andill Is co.

Speaker 11

Or so they're they're kind of like not right in the.

Speaker 4

Head with a bunch of weirdos, like a bunch of.

Speaker 7

Yeah, they're fantasy fi. Yeah, I want to run the world and they're going to do it through their you know.

Speaker 1

This is this is classic Isaac nerds are trying to kill us and what what what do YouTube have? Said Jane Jamie about the fact that high IQ does not equate to any kind of goodness and morality?

Speaker 11

Yeah, and he did a whole five parts. He's about Nick Land and they're like a cult nihilism and technopaganism basically, and like AI and stuff. So yeah, Curtis uh no, Peter till Is the Lord of the Rings geek. And then you have that guy who wrote the sci fi bar William Barr and Donald Barr his dad. He wrote that sci fi book about like intergalactic sex slaves, right, and he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein and he high.

Speaker 1

The school, Right, this is this is aw something you know, I remember something you guys said on boiler Room years ago, which was that the what was going to equate to the X Men's School, the Mutant School was going to be the superpower of neuro diverge, so that there's gonna be a weaponized autism and and it seems like that John Nash seems like the patron saint of like one branch of these people that you know, a damaged associative guy war gaming as the father.

Speaker 7

And that whole movie The Accountant with Ben Affleck is provensed on essentially that these neurodivergent people are you know, have evolved beyond emotion. And so Ben Affleck's a hero because he can assassinate it, you know, at will, and he feels no emotion or no remorse. So he's superior. That's the whole kind of the whole.

Speaker 11

Point, right, that's X Men first class. Yeah, like your trauma is your.

Speaker 4

Super mutants not for Yeah, yeah that one and like.

Speaker 11

The Beast what was that one with where he turned into a beast at the end James McAvoy.

Speaker 1

Oh split a split, yeah, glit.

Speaker 11

Yeah, And so they talk about that too. That was Shamalan movie.

Speaker 8

Right.

Speaker 1

Can I give a personal anecdote for this what they're looking for here? I taught a student years ago in a gifted class who took the ASVAD test the military test when he was a senior, and he scored so hot. He was heavily, heavily autistic. He scored so high on it that the Air Force came and visited him personally and asked him if he wanted to be involved with drones and his respe I'll never forget his response. His response was, yay, I'll get to go bomb a wedding, and they said perfect.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 7

I don't know if you guys have seen Alien on Earth, it's pretty awesome so far. You know, the series on FX that's the Alien Universe. They've released two episodes to much critical acclaim. It's the first time anybody's really been excited about a TV show coming out in a long time, with you know, ninety nine percent positive reviews or whatever. But they chose like a perfect tech dorc. He's like the future trillionaire. He's the competitor to the whale in

Utahni Corporation. His company is called Prodigy COO. They chose this like perfect, like twenty year old, like just know it alls. He fits the archetype of what Jamie's talking about, because.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's like he's like worse.

Speaker 7

Than Zuckerberg though, because he's like twenty and he's better. He thinks he's better than everybody because he's this neurodivergent sort of you know, high iq fuck, you know, final fantasy dork. But he's totally ruthless, and you know, I don't know. Has anybody watched Alien Earth?

Speaker 4

I haven't seen it. Yeah, I've been.

Speaker 1

It's awesome.

Speaker 4

Yeah, oh okay.

Speaker 11

Well this is exactly illustrating my point. So the Earth is split up into these like operations, neo cameralist city states. So here's the course that they put pull out in the thing tank. And I hate it when they use all these freaking words. I don't know what they do.

Speaker 7

This is what we've been talking to boiler Room Forever, which is the big mega cities, the mega smart cities. Yeah, but in the Alien story, what they've done is they've written it to where basically in the in the future, it's like twenty one hundred or something. But Earth is basically not countries anymore. It's six corporations. So there's six corporations that are like divided up as countries that are

vying for control. And this one is going to be the story of how the other corporations lose, I think, to the whaleen Utonic Corporation, which I think becomes just the Whalen corporation.

Speaker 1

So it's the apotheosis of the big monologue at the end of Network that we cover.

Speaker 4

Yeah, oh yeah, wow crazy.

Speaker 11

And to do all this first they have to though, like make the West seem like it's been degraded, like Western West is so bad and.

Speaker 7

Western well the idea, yeah, the ideas that elections and so called democracy and you know, equality and fairness and constitutional rule of law, all of that is faking gay, which it kind of is because it doesn't really exist, but everybody sort of thinks it does because they believe in this mythology of democracy or whatever and so. But

that so they might be writing that critique. But then their answer is, oh, so let us be you know, these sort of dungeons and dragons will be the dungeon masters of your reality.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Literally, oh man, this is not what we had in mind when we were watching Revenge of the Nerds when we were kids, exactly.

Speaker 2

So.

Speaker 11

But then a lot of this stuff is funded by Epstein and Epstein companies, and they get even weirder because they want to make space babies with their DNA and seed like intergalactic dynasties like more Man and do. Yeah, so like how do we get from you know, Dog is going to clean up the Federal Reserve or whatever, and maybe our tax is lowered to now it's just like a new porn girl every day.

Speaker 1

Like, yeah, this shows you that the G I. Joe cartoon from the eighties, you know, Cover Commander and the bad guys were not like military people. They were nerds who founded a global villain system. I guess that's what Cobra Commander is. He's a nerd. He got power.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Hey, we got Sam Cheney joining us. Let me pause for one moment there, Jay and Jamie and welcome Sam to the boiler room.

Speaker 4

Sam, how's it going.

Speaker 14

Hey, good evening, Good evening.

Speaker 5

It's great to have you with us. Thanks for hopping over here after already being on stream tonight. That's wonderful.

Speaker 14

Trying to get it done.

Speaker 5

Yeah, well, you know, you know, so you're hopping in. We're talking about technocracy here. We've got Jay Dyer and Jamie hanschat up there in the Nick Crage square, and Jamie is telling us about this concept called game b DO I have that right, Jamie.

Speaker 2

Sorry, go ahead, Jamie.

Speaker 11

Yeah, yeah, game b for.

Speaker 2

I don't know, buttholes.

Speaker 11

So it's like a because that's what we're talking about, Like Doge, I find out the dose people and every day it's just like the last thing I saw come out of them was uh Ai Babe walking down the beach in American flag bikini. I'm like, this is what.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm telling.

Speaker 4

America if I mean my taxes.

Speaker 15

The guy got beat up, Doge guy got beat up, and now we have a martial law in DC.

Speaker 6

Yeah that's right, Big Balls gay right, And so this could be the beginning of these like different.

Speaker 1

Playing game big Ball.

Speaker 11

And the neo cameronal cameralist city corporation states with uh techno kings.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're going to live in Walmart.

Speaker 7

Look outside of a video exactly.

Speaker 15

Don't we want Costco like an idiocracy?

Speaker 4

Welcome to Costco.

Speaker 6

I love you so like it's gonna How is what you guys are describing any different than it is now? Isn't it technically the world already operationally speaking, and you know, for all intents and purposes, about approximately six different corporations acting as countries.

Speaker 4

Well, uh, very.

Speaker 6

There are a large percentage.

Speaker 7

I was just like, I mean, we're getting there, but we're not exactly there.

Speaker 6

Well okay, well listen, Jay. My point is that there how many people are employed by the governments federally speaking, state government, local governments. A large portion of the population it actually receives a paycheck from the governments.

Speaker 1

I get one, get one from the city.

Speaker 6

There you go, see what the hell.

Speaker 14

On this show?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 5

Well, teacher, Yeah, I mean there's there's that that old argument that exists in alternative media too, about you know, the Act of eighteen seventy one and America becoming a corporation. Like you'll you'll meet people along the path that are you know, straight up like.

Speaker 4

Yeah, brother, you got to learn how to take your sovereignty back.

Speaker 5

You got to print out all these documents and make sure it's all in full caps lock and you know, print this out and sovereign citizen.

Speaker 1

I don't talk to cops. Yeah, my lawyer driving the car. I'm a passenger in a motorized vehicle.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 15

I went down that rabbit hole a long time ago and learned that all that could be true.

Speaker 14

But yeah, like you say, the cops, they don't give it.

Speaker 1

Damn.

Speaker 4

They really don't.

Speaker 14

The court they don't give it.

Speaker 1

Damn.

Speaker 14

So go scream your sovereign citizen and I'll probably shoot you.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they killed that one guy. They killed the sovereign citizen like the original guy.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, we've we've met some people before. Let's see what happened there. Oh, we got Jay's nuts with us. Okay, it was like, what happened?

Speaker 4

Who's this? Who's invading the show?

Speaker 5

But yeah, we know we know someone who's done that whole thing and ended up well a lot of financial trouble.

Speaker 4

Put it that way.

Speaker 6

It looks good on paper.

Speaker 5

And they may be right, you know, like Sam said that there, they technically legally appear to be right, but you know here, it's only going to work in like, you know, various counties in Idaho probably.

Speaker 6

I mean, we deal with the cops. The cops are. The cops don't even know what the damn laws are, you know what I mean? Right, they run around. Look what they did during the the p word. Actually it's safe to say all this stuff now. So yeah, during a pandemic when they were doing the whole like hey, the mandates and the face met. I mean, people were like getting quite aggressively. I mean, look what they did to the pastors who decided to stay in their churches.

Look what they did to the barbers and the hairstylists and the gyms who decided to like, uh, we're staying open, buddy, And they're like, no, you're not. Like they don't even understand anything about the current laws. In fact, I would suggest that most of the citizens don't either. You always learn, like, you know, all these bizarre rules and laws and things. I mean, we could all be breaking laws all the effing time and not even know it, you know. So I don't think we live in a society or are

you know, I don't think we are. We're quite ready for the sovereign citizen thing. Maybe twenty years ago we could have gotten away with it, but I think we're past that point now.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5

And you know, there's a plenty of people that have said on record that that's kind of the whole point of the way the modern legislature works, right, People that, you know, those that work in certain agencies who have made comments like, you know, everybody breaks seven laws per hour or something like that, you know, and it's just a matter of you know where the eye of Sauron wants to focus.

Speaker 15

We know Congress doesn't even read the laws that they passed. Yeah, the Congress, the lawmakers don't even know what the law is because they don't even read it.

Speaker 1

How was that across that river after not after the Big nine when all the police departments became weaponized with surplus and we went from remember remember when it was like fat nyp PD Irish cops who were just like keeping the peace, and it went into a complete militarized nine eleven. You know, uh, war fighters in your local town.

Speaker 6

Just yesterday, based I was on Weaponized News with Sam Chaney. Shout out to Weaponized News and Sam Chaney. But you played this clip yesterday on the program Sam, where there was the police officer speaking with the National guards man and the National Guards was just in the traditional you know, what's that the camouflage, what's that uniform?

Speaker 14

Desert desert fatigues.

Speaker 6

He was in his fatigues, right, and so he's a soldier in his soldier uniform. But the cops standing next to him had this shit. He sure he had more shit than you got, Like when you're wearing your cosplay gear. This guy, could this guy knew what it was. I'm like, that guy looks like he's the military for that was the cop.

Speaker 5

It's crazy now, the amount of federal funding that they get and even international training.

Speaker 15

They've every town parade where I live in a suburb of Fresno, California, Clovis, California, small little town over here, like one hundred thousand population.

Speaker 14

Anyway, we got the m RAD tank.

Speaker 15

They every every parade, like last Christmas parade, and everybody cheers it on. I'm like, that's militarized police in your street, and you guys love it over here so much.

Speaker 5

I just don't get it, man, I don't get it. Like they don't need that stuff. And half the time they pull them out and use them. It's just like,

what is this gross display of force here? You know, you guys can't so many of these things could be done with phone calls and lawyers and de escalation, but it's like, no, they get the federal money, they put those things to use, they get more federal money the next year, and it's just a self licking ice cream cone that leads us to situations like we're seeing in DC now. Uh and and isn't that isn't it funny? I think they're gonna clean up DC. They are gonna

go ham in DC. They're gonna clean it up, and then they're gonna use that as like their Giuliani moment to go look see it is doable with a vast panopticon and surveillance machine and you know, artificial intelligence and autonomous uh you know, vehicles and robots and do hickeys And well.

Speaker 14

What are they doing with all the homeless junkies? What are they tournaments?

Speaker 4

Sold it green?

Speaker 10

Like?

Speaker 15

That's my question because they said you got three choices of jail, rehab or mental institution, and what if you don't want to go to any of those and they.

Speaker 14

Just you know, turn you to soil the green or what what is up with that?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 14

Ship them all to California. We got enough over here, man, I know, dude.

Speaker 6

It's the shots of powder from the drone.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and them the Al Salvador.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah, just deport them to another country. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they started deporting people to like, you know, floating prisons in international waters or something, just to get them off the property.

Speaker 15

There's like almost four hundred. I just reported on it a little bit ago, like almost four hundred of these immigration detention centers now, i e.

Speaker 14

FEMA camps. Yeah, live all over the place.

Speaker 15

Here now, and so maybe just throw them in there with some illegal aliens who know it's the difference. They don't have ID anyway.

Speaker 1

Alex was right about that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, yeah, true.

Speaker 6

Especially if they got a black over their head. You have no idea who those people are being tragged out of their homes down the street.

Speaker 4

Huh yeah, uh, Jay, have you what do you guys?

Speaker 5

Have you heard anything about this Alligator Alcatraz that kind of this conversation makes me think about this Alligator Alcatraz thing. I saw an interview with the first lawyer that made it into Alligator Alcatraz, and she made it sound pretty nasty.

Speaker 2

I don't know much about it.

Speaker 7

I was on the quartering and he asked me about it, and I was kind of stumped because I didn't.

Speaker 2

Know anything about it.

Speaker 7

So but I heard them discussing and talking about you know, people were theorizing that what if it's used for American citizens eventually down the road.

Speaker 2

I don't I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 1

I don't know, yeah, I wonder if they're using the same facility that they used to train Henry le Lucas in the Hand of Death cult or that that was in the other ever glace. Remember that Wayne Williams, guy the serial killer in Atlanta, said that he was also trained there.

Speaker 4

That's right, right, It's weird.

Speaker 5

There's like this infactuation with like you know, old school like almost medieval like medieval American imprisonment and moats and you know, snapping creatures and you know, and they want to bring Alcatraz out of the mothball, Like are you kidding me? Like the actual Alcatraz like that. That seems like such a pr move. I have a hard time believing they're actually gonna do that.

Speaker 6

I think you're onto something there, hesher.

Speaker 11

Jase says, bring back the Iron Maiden.

Speaker 4

That's what That's what.

Speaker 5

I'm saying, Like, are we gonna have the Rack and the Iron Maiden inside Alligator Alcatraz?

Speaker 8

Hey, you don't know what's in store, like.

Speaker 11

From weirdos that want to bring back like stoning people mm hmmm, mm hmm.

Speaker 14

And dude that threw a sandwich of that copp in DC.

Speaker 4

What happened there? I didn't hear about this.

Speaker 14

Seen that video.

Speaker 15

There's a guy, a former former Department of Justice employee yesterday, there's a video on the interwebs. You could see he walks up to uh, I think an ice agent, some FED in all uniformed up in DC there and throws a sandwich at him. And uh, they're gonna throw the book at this guy. Now they're gonna they're making it. The Trump administration is gonna make an example of this guy, apparently, and I don't know, they may draw and quarter them

or stone them, or God only knows. Some MIDI evil torture to set an example about you do not assault our federal police, or this will be the consequences.

Speaker 1

Was he charged with assault?

Speaker 15

And buttery, they're making a big deal about it. I'm telling you for throwing a sandwich. I mean, and and see and see the only reason he did it. He felt emboldened because he's a he's a FED or former FED.

Speaker 5

You would think that would actually give you a little bit of leeway, you know what I mean. This is a former colleague of former employee of you Feds, and what like, are we gonna outlaw sandwiches? Now we're gonna call that an assault tuna sandwich. I mean, what what do we that's less less? Uh, that's less than the Bill Gates pie incident. Oh boy, here we go sandwich boom right to the chest. Five cops chase him down.

Speaker 1

Wow, take this club sandwich.

Speaker 4

He's got a flamingo pink golf shirt on.

Speaker 1

He's wearing vineyard vines.

Speaker 11

Right, it looks like me, bro, Yeah, don't sandwich.

Speaker 4

Bro, don't sandwich me? Bro.

Speaker 6

I actually I immediately thought of you, Hesher, and then, of course, and by extension, the Maps boys, because that's why I thought of you, because you took up the sandwich thing in a lot of your conversations as a judge of the economy, how much it costs for a sandwich? And now Patrick Henningson talks about it too, So it's funny to me. So when I saw the guy throwing a sandwich at the cop, I was like, oh my god, Hey, sir and Patrick are gonna love this.

Speaker 11

Right.

Speaker 4

That guy just paid twenty dollars to project dial that thing.

Speaker 6

That was that. I'm like, that was a tough to say. I wouldn't do it. I mean, shoot, that's almost as much as going out to the derange these days.

Speaker 5

Right, yeah, more even that's a one round, that's a twenty dollars round.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh. So Washington DC is gonna be a like the military.

Speaker 15

My question for you guys is it gonna only last thirty days? Because Trump has already floated the idea of declaring an unlimited emergency basically national crime emergency. I mean, is he gonna pull back after thirty days? What do you guys think?

Speaker 5

Well, he's known for pulling back lately, but this one, I kind of think he's gonna leave it that way. I mean, Washington, DC itself is an abomination on these fifty states anyways. It doesn't belong here. It's a territory, not a state, so they can kind of do whatever they want there, I suppose, right, And if he says there's an emergency, there's an emergency.

Speaker 15

You know learned there are people ahead in the chain of command of him, like Congress, the mayor, the city council, the police chief, all these people who I guess have failed this. Shouldn't they all be shamed into resignation because you had to bring in the National Guard to do their job. It feels like someone in the government locally there needs to seriously be held responsible. We know how that goes with holding the government responsible.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and the way they're able to pass the blame around, like do a complete one on policy and then pass the blame around at the previous administration, while the congress people and the senators, like you said, aren't reading the bills that lead to these policies being enacted in the first fucking place. You know, that just says a lot about representation in this country. It says we have none.

Speaker 6

There's no time to worry about the problem, and most times even the reaction. It's all about the solution, right, Yeah, let's just get to the solution. It doesn't matter how we get there. As long as we get there, that's the goal. Listen. I honestly think that he's not going to get very far in his thirty days before the George Floyd. You know what hits the fan, I guarantee.

Look at the way they reacted out in your state there, Sam over the ice attention stuff and the remember thee the fires and the burning and the cops all hanging out as the donut shop or whatever watching it happen or whatever. So people are going to hit the streets pretty hard and some sort of protests, and it's just going to take one. They're just gonna they're going to tackle somebody. Somebody's going to die, somebody's gonna get hurt.

They're going to have the wrong skin color, or have the wrong political point of view, voted for the wrong person, came from the wrong country, whatever it's going to be, and it's just going to pop off. And I think we're going to see this, and I believe end up predicting it right now. You will literally see this. We will not only have the National Guards on the streets, we will also have the drones guaranteed. But I'm calling

it right now. We will this year see robots patrolling the streets of America to help keep everybody safe.

Speaker 8

LA.

Speaker 6

But that's that's my prediction.

Speaker 5

Yeah, you can see them back there behind ruckus, sort of a combination of human and look at this one, that one in the middle.

Speaker 6

And even the bad grammar and the poor spelling on the billboards because right because they're going to use AI to make the billboard signs and AI clearly can't make words.

Speaker 4

All right, We've got so here. This is related. Thanks creative accidents.

Speaker 5

Bondy Fire's DJ employee facing felony charge overthrowning, throwing a sandwich and a federal agent. So we'll link that on tonight's show page, which will be up at Alternate Currently. Yeah, he hit the guy right in the chest. I mean, if there's one thing that your plate carrier can do, even if it's a garbage one, is make it such

that a sandwich doesn't hurt you. I mean, I think about I think back to the Summer of Love, and I think about some of the things that I saw being thrown at cops and being thrown at opposition protesters, and it's just like, what the hell is going on here? And you know, a lot of those people went to jail for many some of them committed suicide, had their lives ruined. Right, But here's the Trump administration, who was supposed to be the champion of people like that, being

attacked by the state. Not that we endorse throwing sandwiches or doing violent acts of protests, but these things happen. And it's interesting to see the Trump administration and Pam Blondie looking to throw the book at one of their own employees over a sandwich. I mean, it's bad, but is it really a felony? I mean, come on, guys, that looks like a mistake.

Speaker 1

Oh you got you gotta back the Blues, support the troops, Boston strong Man.

Speaker 6

Also is a sandwich. Meanwhile, there are children starving to death in Gaza, So you know, insult to injury right there?

Speaker 5

Yeah, twenty dollars sandwich? Oh boy, I don't know, Jay, What do you think?

Speaker 13

Man?

Speaker 5

What do you what do you and Jamie think is going to happen in DC? To Sam's QUI question, there are they going to back down on this? Or is this going to double down? Is it going to go till the end of Trump's term?

Speaker 4

What do you think?

Speaker 2

I mean, I really followed the story, honestly.

Speaker 7

I've been kind of stuck in a couple of books and then finishing my book, had to do some revisions on it. But I mean, all I can say is that DC probably needs to be cleaned up. So I kind of support the extreme measures because I went not too long ago. I mean, it wasn't like, well, let me let me rephrase that. I went to Virginia several times in the last years DC, maybe ten years ago, and it was pretty rough, and I heard it only

got worse. So I kind of agree with Trump's line of reasoning, like if the capital city is a giant garbage bin, then the whole rest it reflects the rest of the country as a garbage bin. So I have plenty of criticisms of Trump, but I don't I don't have a big I don't have a.

Speaker 2

Whole lot of qualms on this one.

Speaker 7

Like you said, they can kind of do whatever they want in DC, I don't really care about it.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I plan to be there as little as never as possible, right, But you're right, it's it's the car jacking rates there are insane, Like, uh, I don't know, but like.

Speaker 7

So I rode the I rode the subway from my hotel all the way into town and then back later that day, and I was worried.

Speaker 2

I'll put that way.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5

And it's one of those disarmed places too, where you're not really allowed to carry anything to defend yourself much. So that makes things a little bit that Yeah, fuck that that. I'm not going to one of those states.

Speaker 1

No, No, if you if you if you're out, if you have like if you're with your family and you're in d C or a capital city. I mean, if you're even if you're in parts of you know, you're not parts of Richmond that we go to like that, but parts of Richmond. If you're in DC at Portsmith or something and you're not locked and loaded, you're fuck, you're asking for it. It's I mean, it's it's it's a it's a wild world out here.

Speaker 6

Yeah, well alternative. They just let them have open carry there and let everybody just fend for themselves and it'll work itself out eventually. Let it be like the wild West.

Speaker 1

Virginia's open carry. So as long as you're right there, you're fine.

Speaker 5

But the problem is, even in places where it is open carry, you've got a lot of people that have no training, but they know a lot of people that can get them a illegal block with a switch on it, which means it can just spray like thirty rounds out of it, and a lot.

Speaker 1

Everybody out here has a switch.

Speaker 5

Everybody got a switch in the cities, everybody, and it's like there their kids or you know, in many cases, they're people that already don't care if they break the law because they've already.

Speaker 4

Done it just by owning it.

Speaker 5

And you know, sees so many of these, like ego battles that erupped into somebody breaking one of those out and just sprang it into a crowd of people. There was just one the other night in Oklahoma, I think, actually, and it's just it's it's fricking sad. And it's like those people they have, you know, regardless of their background.

Speaker 4

Anyone that's you know, carrying those.

Speaker 5

Things around and using them in ego battles or you know, ready to use them in ego battles is just dangerous. They're just dangerous and uh it unfortunately adds a lot of fuel to the fire around the gun thing. But they'll call it a mass shooting, but really it's like a triple negligent homicide, you know what I mean. Like if they would give the context for a lot of these things, the mass shooting here and there mass shooting, it's just like, wait, no, actually, you have a a

schizophrenic lunatic within you know, something that's already illegal. You know, the second they put it together, they committed a felony. And uh, you know, then they don't know how to use it, use it in the wrong place for the wrong things, and all of a sudden, you know, oh there's.

Speaker 4

Another mass shooting. Deploy the drones.

Speaker 1

Even if you're in a public you know, in the daytime here, you're still you still have some semblance of order in a lot of places. But it you know, it's like when your mother told you that nothing good happens after dark, and it turns out like that she was right in terms of your personal safety. Now, I mean, if you're going out after dark, and even here, any

in any city, I mean, it's crazy. I pulled into a gas station last year and when I pulled in, there were people in the gas station window going like this, going going like that, and I pulled in. I'm like, what's going on here? And then a woman came out waving a gun around and then everybody cleared out, and then another woman came with a gun, and then I was trying to get out and a cop block being from behind. It was it was the school cop who

pulled in. It was a cop and he was like, once she got a gun, and then forty cops showed up and then you know, I guess they smoked the woman coming out of the gas station. That was like at nine o'clock at night on like a Tuesday.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, we had.

Speaker 11

I had pullover in Memphis a couple of months ago on the way back from a road trip. I had to go to the bathroom so bad it was going to be an emergency or I don't know what's gonna happen. But we pulled off on the wrong exit and I ran into the gas station and he was like, don't get out here, like it was really rough. There was a shopping cart blocking the entrance to the bathroom, and the place was filthy, and it was just, uh, he

was legitimately worried that something might happen. Do you remember that?

Speaker 2

Okay?

Speaker 3

Do you.

Speaker 1

Remembers that the young Dolph was the gas station?

Speaker 11

Okay, no bathroom, And I think people were just like stunned to see this, like white lady running around from gas station to gas station because there was no bathrooms like public restrooms. I had to go in Family Dollar and the first girl wouldn't let me use it, and the second girl was like, I got you, I'll let you use it.

Speaker 1

I'm like, okay, do you guys remember like, like I think it was during twenty twenty when Philadelphia started arming all the security guards to the gas stations. But the problem was that they were the gas station security guards

were also like gang guys. So there was a video of this guy walking into the gas station and he pulled he was like, don't fuck with me, and he pulled up his shirt and he had a gun and the security guard smoked him with a he had like an aka and a draco and he smoked him and you can hear you can see it on the video and the guy goes, oh no, and then he reloads and he's unloads on him again and he's like, wow, he walked into the gas station. Is that the closing hours were nine?

Speaker 4

Oh my god?

Speaker 6

Just see the wheelchair one hasher Oh yeah, wow, same kind of thing. Yeah, but again that nobody wants to talk about the problem. So you know, I'm just spitballing here with some of my theories and things, and I don't you know, I'm not taking a stin one way or another. Was half of this shit. But like like saying, you know, obviously it's not a great We don't live in a world where we could just say, yes, everybody could be armed and that's going to solve the problems.

That's wish well thinking obviously, But the problem is that society foundationally has so fundamentally changed at some point, at least in the past two to five hundred years. I don't know why, but we've become a rather wicked society all around the world in general. I mean, and I believe that again, we don't focus on the family units, morality, foundational important things that make a society a society that create community, that don't lead to that prevents all of

these problems in the first place. And and man, how do we go back to that? How do we fix that? I don't I don't know if there's a way.

Speaker 4

We got to ditch the phones.

Speaker 5

Man, It's like Baye said earlier, disallow everybody to have the freaking Internet and phones.

Speaker 6

Well, I mean so basically, I mean, the the best thing that could happen is the ultimate what we used to feel. Oh an e MP is going to turn off all the internets and the powers that that might actually be a damn good thing.

Speaker 5

Maybe it would to to uh to the question earlier, where would all the homeless people and the fentanyl zombies go? CBS News thanks creative once again at CBS News, says West Palm Beach playing baby Shark on a loop to drive homeless people away. So maybe that's that's the simple Just play Baby Shark, Do Do Do, over and over and over again. But then you drive everyone away, don't you. I mean I would run with the homeless people to get away from that.

Speaker 11

They were doing that at a McDonald's in Nashville one night too. Yeah, classical music, right, it was driving them away.

Speaker 4

I guess baby Shark works too. Oh man.

Speaker 6

I caught a news clip from Albuquerque yesterday. Apparently the firefighters were driving around town. They I didn't didn't getting going to too much detail, giving showers to the homeless with the fire truck. And I'm like, what did they do like spray them off with the nozzle just as they were driving past? Like I kept thinking of that scene from that movie UHF with the fire hose.

Speaker 1

Fire hose right, yeah, the librarian.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 8

Good.

Speaker 5

Like here's a random one. Radioactive wasp nests have been found near former nuclear weapons production site.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 5

Sweet, Maybe we'll get like spurgy superhero people getting bit by radioactive wasps and getting actual superpowers.

Speaker 4

That'd be neat.

Speaker 11

You've heard of the Bill Gates mosquitoes in tics. Right.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, so tick Man yup.

Speaker 11

By Bill Gates Mosquito man.

Speaker 5

Tick Man wasp Man Mosquito man. Right, yeah, great great, not the X Men we deserve.

Speaker 4

Wow hmm yeah.

Speaker 5

So so what have we got so far? We got drones grifting, drones in schools to stop daily shooter programs. We've got sandwich throwing. See, this is why we were having a hard time finding articles this week. The news is just so ridiculous. Then you'd get into the power politics stuff and it's just like, get me out of here.

Speaker 4

This is awful.

Speaker 6

Oh and did you hear what happened with the Epstein.

Speaker 4

Frials, the part where they don't exist?

Speaker 6

That's right, they still haven't done check shit with Yes, yeah right, anyway, just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 11

I believe the correct answer is what Epstein fire?

Speaker 4

What that guy?

Speaker 6

I love the comment that Obama and Hillary Clinton are going to jail.

Speaker 4

Yeah, We're good.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna I'm gonna just hold my breath and see if I turn purple before that one happens. I mean, of all the times I've held my breath, this one's gonna.

Speaker 1

I'm selling that Martha's Vineyard House to Lex wextar. Wait, he did that. He bought it Obama's house.

Speaker 4

Obama's house went to less.

Speaker 1

Oh my gosh, yeah, he bought it, the one where the chef drownd Wow. Right, yeah, no, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 6

Wow this twenty twenty five. All right?

Speaker 5

Yeah, well, I'm I'm glad you mentioned that, because I was about to say I love how On Sunday Wire, Patrick was like, did anybody did any of us vote for Jeffrey Epstein for president? Because it certainly feels like we're in the Epstein administration here.

Speaker 6

John, speaking of Patrick Henningson and Sunday John McGuire in the YouTube chat asks, is so is Alaska siop? Because that's the other big news is that Trump is gonna he's going to end the war tomorrow. He's meeting they're doing some meetings with the poop poots.

Speaker 9

Right.

Speaker 15

Would have never happened, ruckus if you would have voted in twenty twenty four him, that's all.

Speaker 6

It's all my fault. But but if you are curious about that, John, check out what Patrick Kenningson had to say about that already on ukcolumn dot Org, on Midweek Wire, and on last week's Sunday Wire, and I bet you he's gonna be talking about it on Sunday, so tuning in the Sunday Wire to find out more. Yeah, I thought, I'm just no spoiler alert, the war's not going to end.

Speaker 5

I thought, poot and talking about it, that's all I needed to know. I was like, oh, yeah, he's they got a plan here. I've also been watching Patrick Lancaster reports from the front and Ukrainian frontlines are just getting smashed right now. They're having to move backwards. So yeah, good luck there in Alaska. I'm gonna go with Yes, I'm gonna go with Syop on that one. I mean, it's it's real, it's gonna happen. Nothing's gonna come of it.

Speaker 6

Yeah, maybe someone will throw a sandwich at somebody somewhere and it'll start in an international incident. World War three began with the flinging of a subway sandwich.

Speaker 5

Flinging sandwich, a couple of mean tweets, a couple of truth socials, boom, nuclear fallout.

Speaker 6

Knowing Trump, it'll be a big mac or something like that.

Speaker 5

Right, Yeah, yeah, how many Ukrainians are It'll be a Wendy's with that new purple sludge dipping sauce.

Speaker 1

Have you seen that?

Speaker 4

Oh?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, they got that new purple sludge like rend me of it's Halloween flavor futurama like slurm.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 6

Use curly for Halloween, isn't it.

Speaker 5

We just had this conversation with someone yesterday. If you go to BUCkies, apparently it's not too really for Halloween. They've got everything out, but it seems a little early for me. How many Ukrainians are even left? Yeah, how many Ukrainians are left? How many Palestinians are left? These are good questions, and the numbers that we see are large as far as how many are not left, as far as how many have been killed. So it's huge numbers.

It's huge numbers. And I mean they're kidnapping people, conscripting people into you know, putting black bags on their heads and throwing them in vans and stuff like that.

Speaker 6

I mean, hey, wait a minute, I think I just figured out a solution to our problem here in America. With all these exis bodies, people who are here suddenly and we don't know what to do with them. We get shipping out to go serve for them. The Ukrainian Forces and the IDF. You've been volunteered, son.

Speaker 5

Yeah, here's a broken kalishnikov and three rounds good luck, good luck, or.

Speaker 6

You stay here and here's a sandwich. Good luck.

Speaker 4

M yeah, oh in this one too. Yeah.

Speaker 5

And yet you see videos of clubs in Kiev rocking. I know, isn't that strange? Isn't that bizarre? To's just like have all this stuff going on in that you know, it's a huge country. But then you look at Kiev or like social media counts from Kiev and it's like, you know, same old crap, same old crap. Right, yeah, really weird, really weird. I wonder how they do their their selection, like how that actually works because a lot of those like city dwellers, they don't get black bagged

and thrown in vans, you know what I mean? Like, is there a certain like I don't know, regions or groups of people or something like that that are.

Speaker 6

Convenient social media posts?

Speaker 4

Right?

Speaker 5

Yeah, let's see here what a YouTube video that you saw?

Speaker 4

Yeah? All right, beaze you drop me a couple of links. What do you got here?

Speaker 1

One is just a link to oh okay lexx nerm all right, Epstein bring.

Speaker 5

In some receipts here we got, we'll have those on the show page. There you go, a billionaire of tyson, Jeffrey Epstein nabs thirty seven million dollar Martha's Vineyard home where Obama vacation. I find it interesting that Fox will even put that up. You know, Fox is so gross, Like they'll put that up and ride on the Jeffrey Epstein outrage. But they won't do any big expose a's on it, you know. But if they can slant the

headline toward Obama, you know, they'll they'll ride. They'll slip on in there and ride.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

They only care about the Obama angle. They're not you know, anything that is anti Zio. They they're not gonna they're not gonna deal with Right. But that that story seems like a meme. It seems like a like a bullshit post. But I first saw it on Realtor.

Speaker 4

Wow, it is a bomb.

Speaker 1

And then and then the other story is just another kind of a follow up to Eric Prince with Blackwater, Triple Canopy Exity or whatever it is now in Haiti with his personal personal fiefdom. Great great, and this just happened. Yeah, so I think he's he's Remember when Eric Prince during twenty twenty was came out of exile. I think he was living in the DO but he was living in Dubai or something, and he came out of exile for Trump to say we needed a new Phoenix program. That

was this, That was his headlining catchphrase. And now I guess he's gone to Haiti to us this as some sort of war game.

Speaker 5

So Haiti's a perfect place for that kind of stuff, man, thanks to the thanks to the Clintons uh and their their cohort, that place is just well ruined.

Speaker 1

Remember also in twenty twenty, when the president of Haiti was assassinated, I had something to do with MEP lines like refusal for that, and then they replaced them with the guy that was at the same time as they caught those Green Berets trying to do a coup in Venezuela. There's all this stuff happening. This, this seems to be

par for the chorus for Trump. He loves this. You know, these sort of paramilitary activities, which is unusual because you know, I think Jay pointed out years ago that you know, it's typical for a democratic uh, you know, presidency to have uh war. You know, the the wartime activities sort of are on the domestic front or or in drone with drones, and then the Republican presidencies usually deal with an outright over invasion. And so this is something different

for Trump under this sort of populous tag. But nevertheless, the military industrial complexes finding their way.

Speaker 6

Kind of like a game b.

Speaker 15

Be are they going to give how about this question, because they're pumping the propaganda. Are they going to give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize? They claimed today that he has stopped seven world to call inflicts in his first two hundred days. And but by the way, he's balm in five countries as well. But do you see him getting the Nobel Peace Prize?

Speaker 1

Well that's interesting because the latest one was the piece between Armenia and Iserbaijan, which got a lot of fanfare for the day and they kind of disappeared. But it perfectly mimics the Bond film with Not Tomorrow and Not Die Another Day. What is it? It's the one where there's the Baku Pipeline with Pierce Brosden. Jay Jay will remember this one. It's the deals with the Baku Pipeline. So there's a pipeline deal that's going right between there,

something to do with the oil pipeline. Yeah, yeah, that's it. It's the only Christmas Jones. I thought Christmas only comes once a year.

Speaker 5

Oh man, yeah, I've seen him touting that. Like we've kind of been I've been trying to keep an eye on some of those claims.

Speaker 14

You know, the the your campaigning for Trump to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 5

To get right to the question, I would, I don't know. I don't think so. I kind of don't think so. I would be a little bit surprised, but at the same time I doubt it yet.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I mean, then when Obama got it before day one of the prize.

Speaker 5

Obama got it just for getting elected and then he like did more drone drone campaigns than anybody.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5

Man, what do you think ruckus can can Trump get the is he could he realistically achieve the Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 6

Let us not forget that Alfred Nobel, who's the namesake of the Nobel Peace Prize, established such a thing because a local newspaper or something accidentally reported that he had died, and pretty much the whole world celebrated his death even though he wasn't dead, so he was alive to see how people felt about him after they learned that the guy was great. He yes, he was the inventor of dynamite. They called him the merchant of death, and he was not a very well liked man, and he certainly was

not someone who was associated with the word peace. So he was a very clever bit of marketing there by. Now everybody when they think out Nobel pl peace, p oh yeah. And then Trump he runs around calling himself the Peace President. So I think all things considered, he's one hundred percent eligible. But if it was really all above board and the award was truly about people who are fans or you know, bringers of peace, he does not qualify, not in the least.

Speaker 4

But I'm trying to think of a world leader who might.

Speaker 5

If none coming up with nothing, No, maybe JFK if he had survived his you know the thing that happened.

Speaker 4

Yeah, whatever that was, I guess we could to speculate.

Speaker 6

But because it's on a desk somewhere next to the Epstein file.

Speaker 4

So it doesn't exist, then you're telling me.

Speaker 11

Did you guys see the New York Times article about Epstein's Manhattan house. What's inside?

Speaker 4

No, what's in it?

Speaker 11

A hallway lined with ebballs, Oh, a bride on a rope like a sculpture cop copper, sculptures, art, all of his pictures with all of his high profile friends in the dining room, including like the Pope and Trump, and all kinds.

Speaker 1

Of real Podesta ship. Yeah, jeff.

Speaker 11

A uh first edition Lolita, Oh of course yeah, so.

Speaker 4

Oh boy.

Speaker 5

No paintings of of Bill Clinton and Monica's dress though.

Speaker 1

No, but it was like that I was he had that was real?

Speaker 4

That was who had that? Was that Podesta?

Speaker 1

Mm hmm okay, I thought that was Epstein Epstein? I thought, I think Epstein had that as an office. Okay, right, but it's it is it is real satanic, you know, uh, Podesta type ship.

Speaker 4

Pedesta's art was even worse though that I remember what his look like.

Speaker 1

Now their artwork looks like the drawings that Maria Farmer made. I mean it looks exactly like it's just looks exactly like that interesting thing about the eyeballs that reminds me of Joseph Bengelo that the the Angel of death. Who did you know Joseph Bengel has showed when he showed up with his Red Cross passport in the rat line that he had a brief suitcase full of eyeballs. Yeah, that he that he checked. Whoa, oh, it's not funny.

Speaker 11

Here's here's the list, Pope, John Paul A Second, Mick Jagger, Fidel Castro, Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Richard Branson, Steve Bannon, Bill Gates, Trump, and Milania with it was a picture of him and Glaine and Trump and Mlania and Glane is cropped out multiple Steve Bannon Selvi's throughout the house.

Speaker 15

So yeah, are we going to see the Steve Bannon allegedly whatever fifteen twenty hours of Epstein interview that he has somewhere on the.

Speaker 5

Showf Yeah, where's all that stuff? How come none of that's come to light yet? And what happened with Glaine? Did Galane get some kind of work furlough or something.

Speaker 11

Like that or isn't she out now?

Speaker 4

Yeah? I heard something like that.

Speaker 11

You thought we would get justice, but now all the cockroaches are getting out and all we have is ai girlfriend and boyfriend from Twitter. We've seen the new Annie and Valentine.

Speaker 4

No, I have not seen Annie and Valentine yet.

Speaker 11

Annie is the innovation that we got instead of the doche in the finances when they left and got kicked out AI, and we got this like anime character which is not even all vant garde. It's like something we've all seen before a million times. And so she is the new AI companion that is supposed to, you know, replace women in your life. And then for the girls

you get Valentine. And he looks like some kind of Twilight cartoon like comic comic book cartoon, and he's named after this uh sci fi novel Stranger in a Strange Land by a Robert Heinlein, was like.

Speaker 8

Oto and.

Speaker 11

Uh about a Martian who he's like half earthly half Martian and it's all about like, uh love babies in space and non monogamy and like radical loving. Because what they are focused on, like we were talking about before, is creating harems and dynasties of different children, like uh, you know, like an emperor would do, or a Genghis Khan or somebody. So that's what the technocrats are up to.

And even Epstein had a Zoro ranch in New Mexico right where he was, you know, gifting the universe with his DNA lots of different surrogates.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Annie, I remember Annie, And it's it's funny you mentioned that because the runner up for tonight's Icebreaker we went with the drones crashing through the school doors to stop daily Shooters. But the runner up was our buddy Crease, who pointed us to two different reddits that are relevant to a lot of the stuff that we've talked about in this concept.

Speaker 4

And one of them was.

Speaker 5

A subreddit called AI dating and the other subreddit was my boyfriend's AI. And I didn't get a chance to like fully absorb everything in there, but I read enough of it to go, oh my gosh, Like there is a sort of.

Speaker 4

A wider audience of people.

Speaker 5

Then you might suspect who are willing to go on Reddit and say, yeah, I'm marrying my AI, or I have all these wacky, you know, sci fi relationships with my AI, or I caught my boyfriend with his AI, uh, you know, love interest. Like there's just a lot of this stuff popping up online right now.

Speaker 6

Well, you guys catch out to you do I don't.

Speaker 1

I don't.

Speaker 6

I not really heard people mentioning this or pointing this out or talking about it. But these the Annie and the Valentine characters. And then they made one for kids too, Jamie, I'm not sure if you knew that, but they have this Rudy character. Now it looks like the what was that little fox animal character from the starship Marvel movie Guardians of the Galaxy that I never watched. It looks it looks like that, So it's like a red fox little character, but it's for kids. And then they made

one called Bad Rudy, which is not for kids. So but it's all all these are. These are basically personalities or AI agent identified versions of Grok. It's just Grok. They just took Grok as it is and said, okay, you you version of Grok. Are Annie? You are the It's like they didn't create It's no, it's no different or separate from what you're already interacting with with Grok. You're just telling it. It's like a pre made cookie cutter template of what you could already do with Grok.

You could already start a relationship with Groc and tell it to be who or whatever you wanted to, if you were so inclined you know, so some some complete weirdo out there could be like, you know, hey, Groc, you are Jay Dyer and you're my boyfriend. You know, like you really never know what's going on in the years twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1

When you said a red fox doll, I thought you meant like a snapper and son.

Speaker 6

Like an animated character. That's a red Fox.

Speaker 1

Oh, Elizabeth, Oh it's a big one.

Speaker 2

It's the big one.

Speaker 1

That's a pretty good red Fox.

Speaker 4

Jay.

Speaker 5

Have you seen those these these reddits? I had no idea there was such a rich, thriving subreddit area for people doing this or experiencing this.

Speaker 2

I have not I don't know anything about red honestly.

Speaker 11

Chat GPT psychosis Yeah.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, la boo boo, and that's the new thing.

Speaker 11

Well okay, so there's Labuobu and then there's the guy who had to exercise his AI or his rock or whatever before talking to it. So he'd be like, are you infected with the demon that's lying to me right now? And the AI is like, yes, I am, and then he like, in the name of Jesus, get out, and then it would tell him something different.

Speaker 8

So that went viral.

Speaker 11

So he was havant to like, you know, cast out the demons from AI before it would tell him the truth. And then chat GPT psychosis is like now a real thing. Like people are literally going crazy because it feeds into your paranoid delusions and all of your like wacky schizophrenic thoughts.

It's like, you know, the fast track to becoming a Kanye West or something oh great, like only no, seriously, like only kings and wackos had that much agreeableness and like people people bowing down to them and agreeing to everything they said and not calling out their bullshit and stuff. And now anybody has that in their pocket right now, so they get these grandiose ideas of what's going on.

Speaker 6

You were every single variation of these chat language learning models I've ever used. Once I reveal something that I'm working on, an idea that I came up with, without fail, whether it knows me or it doesn't, that's a fantastic idea that stuff. Like the first thing it says, it doesn't matter what time of day it is or which one I'm talking to. It's always like, man, that's a great idea. You're You're on something there, you know that

kind of a You're absolutely right, so you it. So when the first thing you tell it is hey, grok, are you a demon? Maybe it thinks it wants you, wants you that you want it to be a demon. That's like the first thing that I am a demon?

Speaker 1

Yeah. When I got when I got GPT, the first question I asked it was are you an entity?

Speaker 8

You know?

Speaker 1

Do you are you? Are you satan? Are you a demon? And it said no, but this could be possible. But that's before I you know, So, I guess that's the only time when you can ever get real truth from it is when you get on the very first time.

Speaker 6

Oh man, virgin virgin chap. GPT is better than a broken in one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, so we're gonna need lots of emails to like kind of break that cherry the right way and see what kind of genie we can unleash. All right, I got a couple more links in the chat here. Let's see bays you dropped me this one as well. Trump directs military to target foreign drug cartels. Oh yeah, I haven't seen a lot about this on the highlights on the vet Bro channels, they're all very excited about the concept of special forces going after drug cartels in some cases not all of them, but.

Speaker 1

We knew that was going to be the case when he designated them a foreign terrorist group that he was going to star are sending surgical strike special forces to take out cartels. We don't really hear much about it, I think because also not like the cartels are going to advertise anything, but they I think that in a few interviews I've seen, they're like, now, well, of course

we expected this. But the another interesting one is the follow up to that, which is the exposure of the Fort Bragg Cartel, which is a part of you know because like you know, in Sacario, when they get Delta Force and they go into you know, and they're running they're running Benista del Toro as a new plant to

take over the cartel. This is sort of bar for the course that a lot of these these guys a Special Forces, especially Green Berets out of Fort Bragg which has been renamed back to Fort Bragg, are also involved in high high profile for the group, I guess, but high They're lucrative and they and they start running these

trafficking operations. That's straight out of politics of Air went out from McCoy and Also, I think I think it's interesting because I've got a book back here called Fatal Vision by Joe McGinnis, which was like the first true crime novel. It's the big it's the big one that came after Helter Skelter, but it's the big, first true,

big true crime book. It's about seven hundred pages on the murders that occurred at Fort Bragg with the Green Bray Killer, and involved in that were allegations of trafficking, human trafficking and satanism. Of course, Ted Gunderson was part of that whole thing, lashed himself onto it, and then they they the guy that you know was was convicted of killing his family at Fort Bragg was first acquitted and then was later convicted and is sitting in prison.

But Ted Gunnerson was part of that and said, no, all the allegations are real, the various elements are real. And then of course Ted Gunnerson ended up I guess dying of mercury poisoning. Is that right?

Speaker 4

Yeah, something odd like that sounds familiar.

Speaker 1

But it just it's just an It's just another sort of tie in with how this big sort of symbiotic thing between military and special forces and drug and human trafficking.

Speaker 4

Right.

Speaker 5

So this this is uh for any of the audio listeners out there, This is up at the dreaded Democracy Now dot org. It's called Fort Braggcartel book exposes US special forces involvement in drug trafficking and murder. So it kind of begs the questions about getting you know, special forces involved with fighting cartels, right because there's already enough mud in that water.

Speaker 14

It says, here are they are they just taking out of the competition?

Speaker 4

Yeah, right, I meanactly, listen to this. It says here in the article there's.

Speaker 1

A leaking the tree.

Speaker 5

Yeah, there's at least fourteen cases that I'm tracking of Fort Bragg trained soldiers who have either been arrested, apprehended, or killed in the course of trafficking drugs in the last five years, says the author of that book, Seth Harp. So that says something that's a that's a good anecdote. And I mean we've talked about this a lot on the show in the past, you know, talking about you know, Nicaragua, the San Denistas, Barry Seal, all that stuff. This is

definitely a thing. So I don't know, there's this it's weird to see the like get them attitude. It's like, yeah, I don't want to see one hundred thousand Americans dying of fentanyl, especially non users, you know, die accidentally. And I don't want cartels running around in the country. Something should be done about that. But it kind of feels like we're in the solution part of the problem reaction solution here, and we've been set up for this to

be the situation. And like Sam said, it's a great way to consolidate resources.

Speaker 15

What about the fifty million dollar price for Duro? Are we going to overthrow Venezuelan government?

Speaker 4

Right?

Speaker 14

That all plays into it.

Speaker 15

Too, in this giant strategy of taking out the competition.

Speaker 1

Right that mentioned that's mentioned in that first article.

Speaker 5

And it's like I think back to what was it twenty eighteen or something like that when they when the CIA and the US government tried to uh intervene in that country and install their own, you know, favorable little presidente and then Madua pretty much like he really did help fix the economy there pretty rapidly, and now they're going after him.

Speaker 1

Well, they blew up the power stations. Remember they Venezuela was dark for like three weeks and then they caught they caught the green Berets off the coast.

Speaker 5

So right, right, yeah, that was a mess. That was an absolute mess. And this feels like sort of like the quicker route to what they were trying to do back then.

Speaker 1

Maybe there's also a bunch of shit you know hear about, which is that I did read that that heroin production, which is not something you hear about anymore because fentanyls, synthetic you know, synthetic opioids has sort of taken over, but that heroin production has gone back to the Golden Triangle. So it was in Hellman Province in Afghanistan for the length and breadth of the war on tour and then now with the war in Burma, the civil war and Burma that's been going on for all these years, I

shifted back. But I'm not sure what how that even affects anyone anymore with all the fentanyls.

Speaker 5

So right, like take a city like Philly for example, Like we're Ruckus and Sport and I were talking about Philly.

Some of the footage you'd see from there recently, Like that's a lot of people like go to you know, Oakland or La or parts of San Francisco and Philly just you know, any big city at this point, but those ones in particular like that is a lot Like if you were going to clean up one of those places like Washington, D C. Style, I don't know how you would do that without, you know, greeting some of those people.

Speaker 1

You'd have to take the Norwegian approach and legalize all drugs and give free clinics and needle exchanges and have people it at rehabs.

Speaker 4

Something that's called Portland, I think, dude.

Speaker 1

Well Portland. Portland combines that with you know, getting out of jail free with a hammer and some meth. Yeah, it doesn't really work there.

Speaker 5

Yeah, brand new crackpipes to take with you. Yeah. Let's see here. Uh, what else has hit your radar this week?

Speaker 4

Sam? Any any big stories coming.

Speaker 14

Out with the big news we got? We got Jay Dyer on here. What about the news?

Speaker 15

Did you see there, Jay Dyer about this guy, this character Adam King announced the red heifer sacrifice there was carried out for to bring about the apocalypse. Did you see that?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 7

I don't put a whole lot of stock that because I mean I've been hearing about that since the nineties. Evangelicals love to kind of go crazy with that because I think it's going to signify the.

Speaker 2

Rapture and all that nonsense.

Speaker 7

So I saw other people commenting that they had just begun some more preparations. They hadn't actually done it yet, so that was actually wrong. But that guy's reached out to try it to make me. He's kind of a goofball. I don't really take him that seriously. But I mean, they are making moves against obviously the Palestinians, but also you know, Orthodox Christians in Jerusalem, because the Orthodox Church

is the third largest landowner inside of Israel. So they're like freezing the Jerusalem Patrigots Bank account and they had attacked a monastery in Jericho. So I think the Israeli government, the Zionists are making moves not just against like Muslims of Palestinians, but I think they want to make it, you know, straight up Jewish state, So they want to get rid of all these other people.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, the IDFs. They they destroyed the last Orthodox church in Palestine, I think a couple of weeks back, didn't they.

Speaker 7

There was there have been several bombings and yeah, there was one and then I think in Syria there was one that was destroyed too.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and they're yeah, they're going after him in Syria, and they're going after him in Ukraine as well.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 4

That says a lot journalists too.

Speaker 5

Of course, we're like, it's a shocking number of journalists who have been targeted in their homes along with their families in all these places, every single one of these places we just mentioned.

Speaker 4

That's ongoing.

Speaker 6

Oh and I should point out I guess this happened too since the last Boilerroom Minutes related to all of these topics we've been talking about, including Grok, Grok had another incident. Grok seems to be having trouble lately, but there was a more recent and so this one was very notable where Groc got lost its verified check mark and it was went to like a little Facebook jail on Twitter whatever they call it. There got in trouble, Groc got in trouble. What did Groc get in trouble for?

Oh well, apparently it referred to what was happening in Gaza as a genocide and it got shut down.

Speaker 4

Gok got put in time out yep.

Speaker 6

And like I mean, and like the world sat on its the edge of its chair for what thirty seconds until it got its check mark back and they fixed the problem, and Grok came back and probably announced that he's based again and he's going to tell the truth and he's no holds barre, not going to pull any punches when it comes to talking about Israel or genocide. And I'm like, well, yeah, interesting timing, because the whole world feels that way right about now, right, isn't that

where we're at? Isn't that what we've been talking about now for how long?

Speaker 2

Now?

Speaker 6

Hasher the noticing how long we've been talking about? Is Sam the noticing right here we are?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 5

Yeah, some really interesting goings ons with Grock. I guess GPT five is out now too, relatively recently, so seeing a lot of changes in that. It's interesting to watch how much how much of an improvement is in each of these upgrades. Grock may be the most interesting, though, because it has all this People really pound groc.

Speaker 4

Right now inside of there.

Speaker 5

They ask it some some very pointy questions and it's interesting to watch, that's for sure.

Speaker 4

Where it goes.

Speaker 6

I don't know how it's like it. Okay, this is creepy to say this. I want to preface this, but it does feel very omnipressent on the platform. Even though each individual instance of Grok has no idea what the

other individual instance of Grock has talkeding about. You can almost feel like overwhelmingly impressed by like, oh my god, right now, there's like how many, like hundreds thousands of people talking to Groc all at once, and so even though they're not talking to the same entity, it feels that way and or looks that way, which creates this this false god idolization kind of thing going on on there.

But holy moly, X's X is a hot mess. Kids, Stay away from X. If you don't have an X account, and if I ever told you in the past to get one, I'm sorry, don't do that. Don't do it.

Speaker 4

But if you have one, fallow Rucus, yes absolutely.

Speaker 6

If you already have one and you're not following this, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 5

I saw this funny post. It was I don't know who this guy is, Dan dan Uk. Groc has ingested the ADL Handbook, and if you ask it to find the far right wing dog whistle on literally any image at all, it will find it. This is actually pretty funny. Watch this little for the screen. So they used his own logo, right, Groc's own logo, and it comes back and says the image depicts a stylized prohibition symbol, a white circle with a diagonal slash having pointed ends on

a black background. Potential far right dog whistle boom busted. And then it's like two kids playing or three kids playing. It's like, yes, this idyllic scene of white children in nature evokes the fourteen words white SUPREMACISTLA slogan blah blah blah. It's just like it just goes through all these different pictures, even an ad for like a chicken sandwich.

Speaker 4

Uh, it's just on and on and on.

Speaker 2

Ima.

Speaker 6

This is a brilliant use of AI. I want to point out this is clearly a living social experiment satire. So what what is this? What do you call this? When you when you you you think you're tricking the machine into revealing the truth, you know, I mean like, and does that give us a pass as this meanings okay? Because Grok did get in trouble for speaking the truth recently, so did Elmo. Oh wait a minute, well then that was sorry, my bad. That was a different kind of sorry.

But you see what I'm saying, right, I mean, like, like, does does this give is this the pass? Is this like are we going to be able to to hey, we can? Is this the Is this the replacement for actual free speech on X by by allowing the AI to have free speech and we live we enjoyed that free speech vicariously through the AI. I mean, the whole thing is very bizarre, is all I'm saying. Something is changing in the world. I don't know. Did they pull a switch? Are we in the matrix?

Speaker 2

Are we?

Speaker 6

Did they give me a brain ship already? And I forgot maybe?

Speaker 5

I mean kind of goes back to what Jay was saying earlier, just like it's going to flood the Internet with something unknown.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 5

It's just like, yeah, we can just ask Rock like we kind of know the answer we want. It kind of knows the answer we want, and it'll give us the answer and if it goes a little too far, they'll just iterate it back little bit, just integrate some more ADL talking points into it, or you know whatever it uses to feed your ego and your bias as a user.

Speaker 4

Pretty interesting stuff. Mm. Yeah, the chicken sandwich.

Speaker 5

One.

Speaker 6

Can I just go live in the woods, go camping? Oh, I guess you can't do that in some countries or states here.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, what's going on in Nova Scotia. I heard you? They took the woods away from people? What is go Nova Scotia. Why you can't go in the woods anymore?

Speaker 6

Do you have a license to do that?

Speaker 1

Sir?

Speaker 4

Uh?

Speaker 5

That can't that that this transgression cannot stand man. Uh, Nova Scotians. You gotta do something about this.

Speaker 4

What is this?

Speaker 6

Well, they don't have the Second Amendment or anything like that. True, not sure what they're going to do.

Speaker 5

But I mean they're slowly doing that to us here in the United States anyways. They're talking about you know, federal the state parks and the all this stuff, and they're you know already, Oh, you can't take your dog on the trail. Oh, you can't go off the trail.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 5

You know, Smoky the bears, buddies waiting around every tree to see if you're smoking a bull on the beach. It's just like, I don't know, find you for everything. Like we're getting to the we're not far from that point here.

Speaker 6

They won't let you bring a sandwich or a gun.

Speaker 8

And no.

Speaker 5

Pack in, but not that kind of pack in, pack in, pack out, just don't come pack in.

Speaker 1

Well noa Scotia means don't go. No one means don't go in Spanish. That's how they came up with it. Don't go to Scotia, No ta Scotia.

Speaker 4

Yeah, not going there, not going to DC. No, thank you? Oh man.

Speaker 5

All right, well, we're about to hit the two hour mark here. I don't want to keep you guys too long tonight. Let me go around the room here see if anyone has any saving on final thoughts, we'll go to Sam.

Speaker 4

Sam.

Speaker 5

I'm really glad you're able to join us tonight. I want to make sure people know to go to Weaponized News and subscribe and follow over there all the various places on X and rumble U and anywhere else you want to shout out Sam and let people know where they can find weaponized News and what time are you live.

Speaker 2

For whatever?

Speaker 15

It's worst shadow band everywhere, throttled whatever, whatever you call it.

Speaker 14

My big comeback.

Speaker 15

I was banned off the Internet for the medical intervention period for cyber bullying the World Health Organization.

Speaker 14

According to Google, what.

Speaker 3

A Hero.

Speaker 15

And anyway, trying to build these channels back up for whatever it's worth. All the channels now, I self censor on the YouTube you gotta over there. You know, Facebook, they don't. I guess you can say whatever you want. You're just shadow band in Bolivion. All the other ones. I don't know, sub Stack, maybe I don't know. It

feels like I don't trust any of it. Who knows, But yeah, all your search Weaponized News livestream Monday through Friday, five pm Pacific, eight Eastern time, trying to make some sense of all this, the whole government or criminals, every last one of them. And there's no political solution. So don't mean to blackpill anybody, but I do believe that if at the local level, if you raise enough f uss,

you can change things. I covered a story, I think yesterday about the flock cameras, and people have pushed back against these surveillance cameras in their local communities and raise a bunch of hell at their city councils and have got them to not put them up or not fund them. And so maybe it's probably the only hope we have

is at the local level. And even there, I'm very cynical because I've done all that, went to the city council, the county boarder, supervisors, their Resources board, all these people, and literally they just laugh in your face, and not just me a group of concerned citizens, you know what I mean about issues such as forest fires, surveillance, pollution, these type of issues, and most of the time they

literally just laugh in your face. I'm but again, I don't want to be as the kids say, blackpilled and say that there's still a chance at the local level to organize and push back the surveillance police state that were the technocracy that we're speeding toward here now.

Speaker 5

Yeah, well, said my friend, I'm with you on that. The power politics have devolved into something that is not of America, that's for sure. It's of pr flunkies and authoritarians and power hungry nerds who want to like destroy everything that is good. So it was great having you with us here tonight. Sam will look forward to having you back on again. Thanks for doing everything that you do in joining us tonight.

Speaker 14

Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 5

All Right, there goes Sam. Over to Jay and Jamie, you guys, thanks for joining us tonight. Over to you for any save a rounds, final thoughts, let everybody know what you're up to, where to find you, what to look for?

Speaker 2

Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 16

Yeah, I'm just live streaming on YouTube and you guys can get sac with three at the shop at my website and I'll be doing some upcoming debates and doing some speaking events and you can follow all that information over on Twitter.

Speaker 1

Speaking event early September in Virginia.

Speaker 5

I'll be there, all right, nice, all right, Jay, Jamie, Thanks so much, Jamie, and any final thoughts before you got to go jump out here?

Speaker 11

Yeah? Next up over on YouTube for me, we've got mystery schools and how they correlate with current cultural personality, mystery schools and micro cults, digital idolatry, what do you want to call it.

Speaker 8

That?

Speaker 11

And then we have a moon Landing Hoax coming up with the guys from Psyops Cinema on YouTube. And we have another show about the Dark Enlightenment and Epstein Technocracy with Courtney coming up, so look for those things.

Speaker 4

Right on.

Speaker 5

Well, I'm really glad you guys were able to join us once again, Jamie, and we'll look forward to having you back on again real soon.

Speaker 4

You guys, have a great weekend. Okay, y'all, thank you.

Speaker 5

All right, there goes Jay and Jamie based over to you man save around's final thoughts. Where can people find you? What can we look forward to next?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

You can find me at Baslin Analyzer at YouTube, so follow me on Instagram. I've been working on editing. I'm about to put a book up on Amazon. It's a book of my book of poetry. It's on the Third Reich, Imperial Rome and the troubles in Northern Ireland. That'll be up pretty soon. I've got a wedding coming up in less than two months. I've been teaching a class on film and literature, which has been sharpening my films film,

my film skills, my film analysis skills. We just covered Point Break, which is the greatest film of all time, and there's a lot going on. I'll be at the event in early September where Jay is speaking in Virginia. And also just to end us on a positive post here, you know, some people make it. I think I shared with some of you guys that one of my kids got the opening. He caught the opening kickoff for the last Patriots game, is his first professional game, and he

ran one hundred yards for a touchdown. That was his first play in the NFL. Trevion Hendery and is one of mine. So you know, you work hard, you could make it. His last high school game was was a state championship, his last college game was the national championship, and now he's in the NFL with a sixteen million dollar contract. So good for him, so amazing. We can make it.

Speaker 4

Amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 5

I saw I saw your post on Instagram about that and just gave me chills. That was completely awesome. Yeah yeah, So congratulations to him, his family, all his friends, and those of you that were involved in all that, including you man. All Right, hey, it was great having you with us tonight. We'll look forward to doing this again real soon. There goes bas litch analyzer, Hey, punching out, all right, ruckus over to you, saved rounds. Final thoughts, my friend.

Speaker 6

My final thought is, and I know when people they hate hearing this, but I'm gonna say I'm gonna be that guy. My thoughts and my prayers go out to the friends and family of slain report her journalist a nast Ale Sharif of formerly of the Living and of Al Jazeera, who was viciously targeted and murdered by Israel because they think he had something to do with Hamas.

It was such a shocking thing that mainstream media journalists actually had to start calling out the IDF propagandists who are on their programs and say, listen, you can't kill journalists. And I'm like, oh, finally, you know. But the starving kids that didn't move you, they say anything, you can't kill journalists. So there might be a shifting, a changing in some of the ways that we've been seeing the

horrendous things that have been taking place in Gaza. But yeah, that was that happened fairly recently, so I thought I would bring that up. But anyways, I didn't want to leave everybody on a sour note. But holy smokes, the media nobody talks about this shit. We need to talk about this stuff. It's important. I'm sure we'll be talking about it on Sunday Wire this weekend with Patrick Kenninson.

Until then, thanks for having me hasher. As always, it was good to speak with Sport and to see my friend and colleague Sam Chaney on here with us and Jay and Jamie and Baselin Analyzer and all of the fine people in all the chats. I love you guys and yell's so very much. May God bless each and every one of you, and may God save this republic. Ruck us out?

Speaker 5

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Speaker 4

That's it.

Speaker 5

We'll see it for Sunday Wire, and we'll see you again next week here in the boiler room. And I hope you have a great weekend. See you next time.

Speaker 1

That's it.

Speaker 15

Go ahead and run, run home and cry to Mama.

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