Taylin Lewan: Navigating Your Pet Aging & Keeping Farm Animals Alive

Yeah, you're listening to In the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horshak. All right, everybody, welcome to in the Vet's Office. I am your host, doctor Josie, and as always, we are joined by Shannon.

Hey.

Hey, how's it going going great? How are you this week? I'm good.

I'm always excited for this episode because I feel like we have great guests and such great conversation and there's always something interesting or funny that happens in the Vet's Office and you just still don't know what goes on behind closed doors when you take your pets in.

Yeah.

Yeah, and I feel like you have had a lot of interesting stuff happen.

Yeah.

I was reflecting this week on what case to talk about, and I was like, you know, this isn't really a case. It's more of an observation, okay, that I've had. And when I as many of you know, I was working in downtown Chicago for almost five years and I really prided myself on being very efficient in and out of my exams, a throw of course, but never behind, never making owners weight. And I have found that since moving to Nashville, I'm always like three to four minutes behind

He doesn't want to get his toes wet. And so I find that. I'm just like and.

You're like, why are you here?

I'm like, wait a second, what do we do?

No, I'm confused, And we're talking about fly swatters and an animal Planet, which I love, I adore. I think it's amazing because I get to learn so much about my clients now, Like I learn about their children and their parents and their significant other. Like there's just some like this added conversation piece.

Yeah, it's that Southern hospitality. It really is.

And I feel like that you've had a lot of your clients be a part of the podcast because you've actually developed relationships with them. Yes, and that's before in Downtown, which I don't fault them at all, but they're like go go, go go. So now it's just kind of like, okay, like this is great. Like do I need to know that Fluffy scared of fly swatters?

No?

I don't, Like that's not going to change when I do medically, but I do, deep down really.

Love the added details.

It's pretty great not to pull a fly swatter out if Fluffy is coming in there you go, which you might not have known that about a Chicago patient exactly exactly.

I know. I know my pets, I know their their loves, their hates, everything, so hilarious.

I think it is true though, Like I come from Canada and like I have noticed that been in like meetings and stuff like in Toronto is like everyone is like in a rush constantly and like, I'm sure there are people in Nashville and Tennessee that are like that too, but I think there is such a little bit more of a like building a relationship while also in you know, contact with someone. Yeah, and they'll even be to me the like how are you. I'm like, oh, you're talking to me.

You're like, thank you? How am I? I don't know how. I'm like, no one's ever asked me that before.

So yeah, I mean, just yeah, coming down here was It's a cultural difference and I love it.

Yeah.

I think I noticed that too with like our horse vet that we had come out to our farm here.

I love doctor Meghan, like my our vet.

She's great and like we would hang out and have a coffee, and I'm like I would never do that when I.

Was back home, just get to shoot the shit.

Yeah, Like they would come in, give the horse like a you know, their vaccines, and then be gone. Like doctor Meghan and I were like hanging out. It might need to make my appointment times a little longer, but I'm here for it that maybe just make it a little bit of an adjustment. Yeah, yeah, here for it. So that you can talk about Fluffy.

Fluffy and his loves and hates. That's amazing.

All right, Well, we've got some great questions this week. I actually got some from some listeners, so this was for you, Doctor Josie. My dog is so itchy. She's scratching at her ears and armpits, licking her paws. I'm giving her zertech daily, but it doesn't seem to be helping.

What do I do? That is a very good question.

I'm actually going to do an entire episode on allergies in our pets because I need a whole hour to talk about it. But what it makes me think is a she probably has allergies, whether it's seasonal, environmental, food allergy, it's hard to say. I'd have to see her and we'd have to talk about it. But a lot of the times those over the counter anahistamines do not cut it for these dogs, and so what I would recommend

It's an injection that I really like.

And then if we can get to the bottom of what they're allergic to, then great, we're treating the underlying issue. So sounds like allergies, you should probably go to the vet.

I help that helps.

Yeah, I dealt with that all the time with our friend Gie.

She was constantly going through like allergy cycles and it actually the main cause was her food mm hmm yep, And you know, we kind of trial and error just figured it out over time. But yeah, she ended up on like the hypoallergenic. I would tell owners every time we even start an allergy conversation, I say, this is far and away the least favorite.

Thing I enjoy working up in animals.

It is so frustrating because you kind of have to go through some trial and air and owners want like an overnight fix, and there's just there just isn't one, So we kind of all have to be on the same page. And like I said, I'm gonna do a whole episode about it, so stay tuned. I can't wait, all right, next one, Doctor Josie. This may be a dumb question. There's never a dumb question. But I've only ever had male dogs. What does it mean to spae an animal? I don't think this is a dumb question

I mean it's a oh wow, I did not know that. Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a big surgery. It's a huge surgery.

So it is.

And it's not to say we shouldn't do it. We absolutely should, but it's important to know, like, hey, this is a pretty involved, slash somewhat invasive procedure and postop they really need to be arrested and closely monitored because it is such a you know, a big procedure. Yeah, and like female dogs that I've had, they definitely were not taking it easy as they probably should have been. Yes, I say, like really the first ten days, especially like

Right, Okay, good deal?

All right, Well those are our questions for this week, and don't forget you guys can submit your questions too if you want to ask doctor Josie something.

There's no dumb questions. And who do we have joining us today? This week? We have Taylor Lawan.

She is the wife of Taylor Lawan, who was a former offensive LINEMSS for the Tennessee Titans. He is now at one of the hosts of Barstools Busting with the Boys podcasts. Yep, I heard of that, and Taylan and her family live here in Nashville. She's always been a big animal advocate and now they have a decent amount of land and they're really kind of creating their own farm, and so I'm excited to hear how it's gone from just being a dog owner to like owning an entire

So I'll hopefully learn some tips.

I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. All right, Welcome to in the Vets office, Taylor Lawan.

Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here with Akira.

I know we've got Missakira here. She We're gonna dive into all about Akira. But she is your husky that you've had since you were eighteen. Yeah, that's a long time.

Not to age you, but I no, she ages me.

That's a long time. Yeah. So she's twelve. I turned thirty this year, so that's how I obviously keep track. That's amazing.

She's actually one of my patients, and she's one of the very, very best. She's so sweet and you would never know she's thirteen.

Yeah. Yeah, she's turned thirteen this year. Yeah, almost thirteen. Yeah, sozy she has she's my senior dog. So she hasn't left my house in a long time unless I take her for a drive. So she's probably like, what are we doing? Why are we here?

Like this is a weird outing for sure? What are these bright lights?

Exactly?

Well, well, I'm glad she's here today.

Taylan and I actually met at a Wags event and bonded over horses. And for those of you that don't follow Tailan, I love your account because I feel like all the things you post are just like so aesthetically pleasing and wholesome. You're like making sour dough, You've got chickens, and I guess, like you know, for those of us that are just looking from the outside in, it looks so beautiful. But I'm sure it's a lot of work because you basically have your own little farm.

Oh yeah, like it. I think it's a lot of work for those moments, you know, right, it's like those moments that I capture because it's usually when I'm like like this is like I always treat my Instagram like it's a scrap book.

Oh this is amazing.

That's why she's trying to get my attention.

Akira has taken a poop.

I was gonna say, she really doesn't bother me unless she has to go outside. That's why she's trying to get attention.

That's okay, this is our first poop of the pot.

Guess Okay, we're gonna take a brief intermission so that we can clean up the little poop.

No gets she's left behind, and we'll be right back. We'll be right back.

All right, We're back from our brief intermission of cleaning up at Caraspoo. I was like, you know what, Taylor, this is a great bow movement. Like this is solid, good consistency, nice and healthy. Yeah, we got no concerns, no concern great shape for her age. Actually we were just discussing her age. Yeah, very consistent bow movements. Anyways, Okay, so back to your your little farm.

Yeah, okay, So I have always wanted a farm, and I grew up on a cattle ranch, but I mostly grew up outside outside, So I grew up in Canada and my all, my my grandparents and my mom and everybody. We've always had a big heart for animals, and when I moved to Nashville, that was kind of always the goal. I remember, even when I first moved out into a place that was not allowed having chickens. I got chickens and I put them in a garage, thinking that would

Myself, Okay.

When I was stuck in my house, I was like, wow, I'm I'm really dependent on everything, you know and everyone. So when things started shutting down, I was like, okay, I want to be more prepared next time, just to have you know, more things at home, and you know, learn how to garden and learn how to maintain animals that will like work for me and all the things. So I got chickens. And then getting chickens, you kind

Most people moved to Tennessee and they're like, I'm going to get a chicken. I just feel like it like comes one part of the territory and they don't know.

Yeah. So yeah, and so once you get like we got a good routine in the automatic waters and you know, and it's an excuse to get me outside every day.

How many chickens do you have right now?

I have twelve?

And are any of them roosters? Are they all?

You're not a lot of roosters? Okay, yeah, so I don't even know. Yeah, you're not well within the city limits that I'm in.

You're not allowed roosters because they make noise.

Yeah exactly. Okay, so you're not allowed of roosters. We've got four parcels of land kind of conjoined, and so yeah, that's how many chickens we have. And then we had ducks, but for some reason we have We're in the city, we're not too far away. But the predators are insane.

Yes, that is something that when I moved here from downtown Chicago. I was shocked. Yeah, bobcats.

Oh yeah, we have a we have a I mean the land we're on too, is like really historical. We've got a graveyard and we've got an old house, so it's a lot of history on it and a lot of it's untouched. Most of it's untouched, and I have to assume that's where they've all lived within the city. That's my story, I tell myself because it's shocking to me. But like at one in the afternoon, they'll just be a bobcat walking around.

Yeah. It's like, Yeah, I was on a walk with my sister and a bobcat went in front of us.

She's like, what the is going on? Yeah, She's like, do they travel in packs? I'm like no, I just wanted to Yeah, and it was huge. I was like, you've probably lived here this whole time.

Yeah, they're big.

Yeah. So I lost all my ducks, all four of them. I guess a duck is a delicacy. I'm assuming. I know that I can't. I'm assuming because they just would go right past the chicken straight.

To the duck. Wow.

Interesting, Yeah, I thought that was too. I think that that well. At least two out of four of those was for sure. Now, just the way that we found the duck, I was like, this is now wow. But yeah, that was Another thing is learning predators. You know, you see all these pictures of the chickens running around free, and you think it's all, you know, storybook, but no, sometimes it's also a mystery, like studying the blood splatter exactly. I'm like, okay, this was taken, so that must mean.

It's not Okay, you were patient zero.

I was.

So it's like like stomach or like respiratory.

Wow, hardcore respiratory.

Okay, do that as things you just wouldn't know. I wouldn't. I would never wear a respirator.

They don't look cleaning my own chicken coop just a real home setter. Now yeah, no, I'm like I can't and you were dying in your bed. Okay, yeah, good to know. So they don't clean out the coop. So they don't clean out the coop. And then after chickens, we got bunnies, and bunny seemed like an easier thing for the kids to cuddle with.

The thing I do know about bunnies is they they even look at them the wrong way and they're a goner.

Oh yeah, we've lost a couple bunnies from heart attacks usually. Yeah. Literally, they're like, bring up to the bed. They're like just kind of happens. Yeah, what do you mean if a branch fell too loud, or if the boil changed too fast, or if you move them out of their because I switched habitats like that' stress of that, we'll just kill

Yeah, we had talked about this before, and that was really eye opening for me. I feel like, a yes, having them do tours and teaching them the value of work is really important. But also I never thought about the concept of life and death. Oh yeah, and that is like such a beautiful thing to be able to teach your children. It is, and like we're important.

We are meat eaters in our house, we're animal lovers, which we are meat eaters. And understanding that concept too young and having that conversation because I remember just being absolutely floored when I found out that I've eaten a cow when I was like twelve. I was maybe not so, but older than I should have been to know that,

Yep, we're going to add that right up there with the chicken poop cleaning.

I didn't understand the concept. I thought, you know, you go there and it's all fine and dandy, but it's actually pretty shell shocking experience for somebody who's a little bit of an animal advocate. Because again, there's no there's never judgment from me in this aspect, especially with true farmers who make a living out of things, because my experience and what my environment, what I've been exposed to is different than like their lifestyle and their experience and

We will take them all exactly.

And so that was kind of shocking to me. But the worst part of it is, I guess, because because they are so jam packed and they're kind of breathing on top of each other, if there's a sick animal, it kind of spreads like wildfire in there. Yeah, so it's a run. So it is a risk that I guess I took unknowingly at the time. And I got a lot of sick goats and it was pretty touch

Learning that's that's taking me back to my that school boards. Yeah, I remember, I remember when.

Because I guess when a livestock animal passes away you like send the body, yes to like a lab, but that investigates it to make sure it can't go across. Ye. Learning, All of this is learning.

Yeah.

Anyways, I sent it in and they called and they're like, yeah, just so you know, it's not zoo zo zoonotics. Zoonotics can't catch it from your animal, right, And I was like, so that was an option, like never crossed my mind one time that I think that I could get a disease from these things. And so anyways, they're like, it's not too zoonotic, yep, so you'll be fine, But yeah, it's it's a it's got herpes. They got it from a sheep. They could get it from a sheep, but

It once they're infected. If they're infected, they have it for life and it lays latent and then it'll flare up like just randomly and they can you know, as you know, die from it, and so you're kind of just like waiting to see.

Yeah, like at this time, we're just trying to give them the best life that they can have, and they live out there, and which led me into getting my fourth dog, which is Bear.

See how this happened? Just now we need another it's.

A snowball effect.

Yeah, yeah, tell me about Bear.

So Bear is my great Pyrenees. I got him from Dunlap, Tennessee. His mom and dad and grandpa and grandma and all of them were all livestock animals. He grew up with goats and stuff until I got him at six months old. And he's an angel.

They're the best.

I didn't know that. I didn't realize what an incredible breed they are.

Yeah. They're very sweet, yeah.

And calm and just like his name was Arthur when we first got him. Yes, his name was Arthur when we first got him. But he like runs like a bear, kind of like outwardly pause it, and so we're like, we just kept calling him bear, like there's our bear. So now his name is Bear. But he's my first outdoor dog. And I remember we were talking about that. Yeah, that's been It can be controversial, it is. I had. I had animal control called on me before this last

I'm like, wait, wait a second, yeah.

Like like I it really kind of stunted me. And I mean I have two beautiful shelters, and like, I mean I overcompensate for Bear all the time, Like I bring them toys and bones, and I groom them and I bath them, and I, you know, spend as much time as I can with him. He's really spoiled with you. But yeah, but yeah, that that shook me to my core. But you know, then you go and I talk to the people that are have done it before, and they're like,

Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, he has a job, job to do.

Yeah, and he loves it, like he really loves his job, and so that's what kind of brings me back home, you know, if I kind of let go of that potential judgment that I have, because there's times that there's times that I have neighbors come over and they'll ask me about him, like is he okay? And I'm like, he doesn't feel this cold like my goats. See that little shivering guy, Like that's why I'm stacking the straw up to hear. That's another thing of people think you're

It cannot be too cold, they cannot be too hot.

You kind of have to just like help them, but like don't nurture them too much, right, actually descend for themselves. Yeah, So it's just been a wild ride to you, just a.

Lot of learning across the board.

It's interesting though with Bear, like I think about all the other I mean, I'm sure the majority of our listeners and you and I include it with our dogs. Our dogs like live like better than most humans. They're pampered.

Yeah, that's what I keep telling myself. My husband keeps being like, come down, yeah, yeah, you're fine. Yeah, but no, that's what we kind of keep telling ourselves too. Like at the end of the day, dogs were domesticated for a reason, you know, And like that's another argument that you always hear, Like dogs were domesticated for a reason, and because in the lane of survival, we offered each

Right, You're like, but should I get him Egyptian cotton?

I'm like, does he mean like a king sized bed?

Yeah, maybe that's funny. Okay, so we've got bear mm hmm. Next on the dock is Smoke.

Smoke was my second husky, which was supposed to be like a cure's protege.

Okay, and Akira was like, no, thank you, no, and.

It went actually south fast. Akira said no thank you without the thank you, just said no and did not like smoke, and Smoke really wanted to like a Kira. And Akira said, I'm gonna sit in my corner and you can have whatever you want, but not nowhere near me.

Nowhere near you?

Oh her Okay, yeah, yeah, she's very protective of me, but now in her old age, Like if she was in her prime, I think my house would be fight club.

Really do, then you'd really have animals on you.

Because she she came to me, really, she had her issues when she came to me, and we've come a long way. But she's not a big fan of dogs, so I but she liked huskies, like always at the dog park, loved huskies. So you're like, well, we'll get you one, and she said that's them at the park. She's like, you really read the whole room long. But anyways, Smoke came in. Smoke's a great dog. She's very much typical husky, like a curra is like unique in her

Like the textbook poster child she is. I feel like people don't.

That's interesting because so many people I hear like in the city, you want to get a husky, and I'm like.

Ooh, I wouldn't do that. No. They have very high energy, very talkative.

Oh yeah, shed more than you could ever imagine. Yeah, but they're smart. And I always say, like husky in my experience, like with a dog wants to serve you in some ways, like wants to make you happy, or like wants to like bond with you and stuggle with you. Huskis are like I'll live with you and we'll be roommates. But you show me respect, yeah, and I'll show you.

Respect, yeah exactly.

And I'll give you exactly what I want to give you. Yeah, and you can try.

But like I got this, yeah exactly. That's actually a very cat like too. Cats are kind of like.

That, very cat like. Cuties are very cat like. Everyone jokes around that a cure is a cat. A Kira is gonna sniff every inch of this room. By the way, she will not settle until she knows everything that's going on. Then she'll lay down. She's very cat like us, but calmer like Curreas. Never chewed anything, so for one shoe of my best friends, I don't think she'll ever forgive before.

If you're listening, we're sorry, so sorry.

But she never chewed anything, never really dug she At the time when I had her, we lived like gypsies because I was eighteen. But anyways, we lived with a lot of land, so there'd be times where I just let her run, like we're in the middle of nowhere Alberta, Canada, if anybody know what that means, Like literally it's so flat, I could probably see her run like tundra. Yeah exactly. And so she lived like a little wolf out there.

Bird some and that's what they need.

I feel like being like cooped up in an apartment or in the city like that can just be really hard for them.

Smoke is my biggest investment, really enough training I've had to spend on Smoky to be like a dog is insane to the point where like my husband's like, we can ever do another husky because of it, and I'm like.

Well we will. She just ruined it for you guys.

Like little do you know this is not my last reusky? That's funny, But no, Akira, I think was just the perfect recipe and just how she was born. She was one of those unique ones. Fact was it called factory setting dogs?

Mm hmm.

Yeah. She just came perfectly for the environment that she was in.

I love the story about Jake. Jake for everyone listening. Jake was a Wags and Walks puppy and I met him. He came in for his intake exam with me, and he came with his sister. Her name was Josie. Funny enough, and they were these big like maybe the biggest yellow lab puppies I've ever seen, like huge belly, probably full of worms, and they were the Actually I can guarantee you they were because I ran their feecals on them and I they were left in one of our exam rooms.

Yeah, that sounds like Jake. I mean, if Jake eats like a crumb on the ground, his stomach's ract. Yeah, Jake has just had stomach juice. He said, g alreadya three times. We don't know how very lab of him.

Yeah.

I think he just eats everything anything that falls on the ground.

Yeah.

So Jake was our foster fail. He was the second time we've ever fostered with wags. And I was you know, very content with the animals we had, and my husband was never been a fan of one me all getting all the period. And secondly like even fostering. He's like, we don't need more responsibility at this point, and like we're doing this again. We're doing it. And so I brought Jake home and him and Jake started a bond. There's not very many boys in my house. We are

Loved as like a jock with the sensitive jock.

Oh yeah, Like he's like you look at him and he's just on his belly, like like everything about him is just like love me and I love you and all the things. So he calls him a bag of water because when you pick him up, he's just like

Are they still like is that he was here today? And I was like, who's your favorite?

He'd be like Jake, Oh, yeah, okay, well Akira. A Kira is kind of the just unspoken, like she's the classhouse. Yeah like that nobody would ever beat a Cia, right right, But Jake is for sure his boy like a son. Yeah son, he never had the closest thing. He's getting into one of this one. But yeah, he's Jake's person is Smoke.

Okay.

Yeah, So the best thing that we ever did was get Jake because a Cure completely rejected Smoke, so Smoke was on her own. And then Jake and Smoke bonded. Not that I'm recommending that people get three dogs because.

If you're we're not working out with one, just get five. It's fine, that's the motto.

But it is a lot. Yeah, so Smoke and Jake. But again, Smoke was one. Jake was six months right, so having puppies grow up together.

Whoa, it's like the Bash Brothers. It's a lot.

It still is. But we made a rule and I'd recommend it for anybody that no playing in the house, but outside they just go absolutely ham So like a lot of times I'll ask to go outside just to go absolutely insane. Yeah, that's the best we can do. Not that they don't try to play in the house, right, but that's the kind of like rule because if not, I think.

It would just be creation.

I do, Okay, I don't create her, but she Both of those are my first created dogs, and I could not imagine not.

Yes, that's how I feel.

I have a shepherd at home and he's young and rambunctious, and we have to create him, and it's like the best.

He likes us creat he does.

It's like a little bit structure. Yeah, And it's so routine for them. They don't know any better, to be honest, They just I say go home, and they go home, and they go to bed, and.

It's perfect and your house stays intact.

Yeah, for the most part, Between toddlers, dogs, it's just funnies, goats, chickens. Wasn't great.

One thing that we had talked about that I think a lot of people will be able to connect with and really resonate with, is I know how bonded you are with Akira, but I feel like just having her since you were a teenager and you know you had shared with me, like going through some like really hard family hardships with you know, family members passing away, and

Yeah. So I was eighteen, and honestly, if anybody who's a big animal advocate in their early twenties, I actually would say, get a dog. Yes, Like, if you have the means for it, it's it'll be the best experience you ever have with a dog. I agree, before the kids come and the husband comes and all the other things come, Like, your dog will just do so much for you. But I got a cure at eighteen when I had no business getting an honor and I got her after my my uncle had committed suicide right after

When you're eighteen, like it's hard to process that.

Yeah, because he had two sons that were like my little brothers that were now gone, you know, because we didn't get to see them anymore because of his situation. And so I got a Kira and a care kind of just fell into my life. And I think that like I got a Curio. She was probably six months. She didn't come like from the best situation. I don't think she had a lot of aggression issues. They I never know. It's like I'm thinking, like, oh, they're gonna listen.

To this, Okay, probably not.

They called her eat them like they wanted a different path for her, okay, you know, like she had like a bad to the bone collar on and stuff. Okay, So I ended up getting her and we just I mean she came everywhere with me, like we would go hiking, if I went to I would become a yoga instructor.

Her chosen circle, small circle exactly.

I think that, and I said this to you that I think that when building my foundation up from the grief that I was feeling at Kira a Kia was like.

She was your girl.

She was a lot of those bricks. Yeah, And I assume, especially because when I talk about it, that when she passes, I think some of those bricks will fall.

It's hard.

I mean being in your early twenties and eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty that's hard enough. And then having you know, losing people on top of that.

Yeah, you're discovering yourself, you know. And so like I was never alone, souse, I had a Kira. So like, if I want to go for a hike, I could, you know, side a Kira, If I want to go for a kayak, I could. And she was always down for everything, right, That's what I loved about her, Like, I mean, she moved to Florida with me, then we came up to Nashville and she's you know, I always had this thing with her that I needed her to

Like this is about me.

It was like, you got to meet all my kids and me and my husband have been gone to playing number three and she's actually like a big part of that because she's getting slower and that's been hard for me to swallow. Like she lost her eye to cancer three four years ago, and that was kind of the first Okay, like she's not invincible, you know, like the day's coming, and you know the days it's like I have, the day is shorter to win. I don't have her to win, I did, you know what I mean? Like

Yes, I've had a lot of clients, yeah, not to me.

And I didn't notice it, but I found that like I gotten routine with her, but I didn't like go see her or like do things with her. I kind of avoided her. And it was because she was aging.

And I did like a coping mechanism almost yeah.

And I didn't know I was doing it. And then one day I kind of had to like go to the terms of like you know, she's gray, she's white, she gets up slower, she's different. You know, she's not who she was in her prime. And I had a good, solid cry about it and then we even good ever since we're back.

Yeah, I mean it's hard to they've been, she's been with you such a huge part of your life, and trying to picture life without her, I'm sure feels impossible.

Yeah. I don't remember life before her, you know, like it's like majority like my whole adult life, she's been in it, you know, and it's like before her, I was a kid. Yeah, And so like that's just as hard as this grief will be.

I will.

I mean, I'm so thankful, yeah, you know.

And it's like she walked you through your hardest some of your hardest days, I'm sure. And now look at this beautiful life you have from when you were eighteen, and so she's gotten you to where you are, and when it's her time, you know, she'll leave you better than she found you.

Yeah, I've you know, I've always I've always said I don't think a care will ever go until she knows I'm good.

Yeah, I believe that. I do believe that.

And I'm and just think that what you said about like especially being a woman and not not not for the guys out there, but for women like that are young and in their twenties, like that relationship you have with your dog, you were like, it is the deepest bond in the world.

It's unbeatable.

And then like I truly believe, and I you know, I've asked some people like older, like my grandparents and stuff like that. I'm like, I believe there's like a soul dog that you have in a lifetime. Like I love all my dogs, but then there's a dog who's like literally a piece of you. And my grandparents are like, yeah, that was this dog for me or that dog for me.

Like, He's like, I need a roadmap.

He's like, what's the plan of Actually he's like can you do it? Yeah? He's like should I get her stuffed? I'm like, please get my dogs.

We will not be getting her taxidermy to Taylor, Okay, rule number.

One absolutely not. That's a hard noe. So there's just a lot to go on. But I mean, again, as much as I do joke around and say that, like, I'm gonna have to, like I tell my kids too, because they're like, what are you gonna do? Like my daughter asked me what I'm gonna do when a care passes away, And I'm like, Mommy's gonna be different. Mommy will be an all black for many miny months exactly. But yeah, I'm so thankful for her. Yeah, I mean, like especially because not everybody gets to have a dog

Yeah, Hey, age is just a number, and she like her. I can tell you her blood works perfect. Yeah, she's she's got many years left, I would say.

Yeah, So I'm just you know, I got I'm just so lucky with her that when she when she does pass, not that I will gree it, but like I have more gratitude than anything absolutely for her. So, I mean she's the reason why I'm such a crazy dog lady. I just keep kidding because you know everything that she's done for me.

She opened can of worm, Oh yeah.

For sure. And she opened up the can of husky worms, so which she fooled me. Yeah, she's not like the old bait and switch. Yes, I just fostered two huskies for weggs, okay, and they're really special. Yeah they give a cua vibes to me. Yeah, no, believe me. Even my husband was like trade smoke, like.

Poor sm girl.

She she's such a good girl now, especially before she was a little feral, but now she's amazing, like, yeah, the investment paid off. Like she's truly she's so special and she's my little like bel girl. If I brought her here, she'd be like belcrode to me.

Love that.

Yeah, she's the best. I mean she's a hard time because she's got a lot of energy, But I think she's the best it would be a big debate in the household with my husband. But I think she's a it's.

All that matters.

Yeah, one thing I always love to end this podcast on a positive note.

What is something that you guys do? I feel like a lot of us.

When we're at home and no one's watching, Like, is there anything that you guys do with your animals? Like I have had someone on here that like sings a song to her dog, Bobby Bones, like to let his dogs out in the middle of the night and like run free like anything.

But you guys do.

I mean, yeah, I'll, I mean we a cure. We dress up for every holiday, which is so funny because she's the last of them all that would appreciate feeling like she probably hates it because to the pictures, like the drench she looks so upset. She like dresses. Yeah, like I've put like two teos on her, like I put like little Irish caps like.

That is amazing.

Yeah, I've got so much of that. But we also dance like she'll as much as she's a little like stick in the mud at times of their personality, if I've got a song and I'm dancing, she'll actually come into the kitchen to dance with me. But my husband.

Daughter's Jake in a way.

Because Jake is like, even if I'm like sitting here and I do like bad if I do that, Jakes like if you change your body, like immediately he's away and he's like, well, what's going on, stranger. Yeah, so Taylor will go put like a mask on or something and like go outside in the windows and iron. Poor Jigs probably lost. So when he hears of his life, but Taylor tells me it's because he's preparing him in

With funny, like they're just such a part of or family and like the antics that you do with them at home and no one's watching, You're like, people would think we're insane.

Oh for sure, for sure.

I love it.

Well, thank you so much for coming on, Thanks for sharing. Thanks about all your animals. They're so special and I'm going to keep watching your farm on Instagram.

It's amazing.

Yeah, thank you.

Everyone gives Taylor a follow. Her farm looks amazing, her animals look amazing. It's at tailing Lawan.

All right.

That was tailing the wan, and I'm so glad that we got to learn so much from her. And I'm gonna have to keep up with her socials and keep learning because there are when you like I've had horses and dogs, but when you venture out to other farm animals, like there is a learning curve with every single one. So that was interesting.

Yeah. Absolutely.

I think people think I'm gonna get a few chickens or some goats, but you don't realize like all the responsibilities and yeah, I did not know don'ts that come with it.

So so yeah, she was a great guest. I'm glad we had her on today.

Yeah I've never because I've thought about getting chickens to have her own eggs, but make sure a lot more you get the gas masks. Ye, clean out there coop, they're coop, they're poop in the coop, all right. So we are going to move on from tailing the one and get to pawn order this week, So do does and dolts?

What are we doing all right? Paul?

And order Number one on the list this week is I would not let my significant other husbands take my pet to the vet unless they are super involved and the caretaking and they know what's going on. Now, listen, I love my husband dearly. There are some husbands that come in and are amazing, like they take care of the animal, they know what they eat, they know when

You're like, yes, or send her here? Can we have called her forty minutes ago?

So if you are going to come, I do have some wives now that will write me a note being like this is what the pet's here for. This is what I'm saying at home, This is the meds that they're on. And then they send their husband with the pet and the note yeah, which I think is very funny and.

Also very smart.

Yes, because I couldn't take our cat to the ved the other day, so I literally I sent Stephen with like his shot, like his vaccine records, what he's been eating, what he's been doing, like last time.

He was seen with like a whole thing. I was like, this is dummy proof.

You cannot fail at this, and he was like, thank you so much for doing this, because normally I have to call you every time.

I'm like, I know, so don't do that anyways.

The worst is sometimes the husband will come in and the pet sick and I'll be like, okay, well we need to do X, Y and Z, you know, and then he'll be like, you know, I think my wife's just being exaggerating, like I don't think this pet sick will be fine, just give us a medicine and we'll go.

And then the wife will call and be like, why didn't you do any tests?

And I'm like, man, I'm like your husband, she said, no, your husband told me no, So, yeah, I don't want to start any marital fights.

Be prepared, like Shannon, I love that.

Yeah, it's like sending your sorry honey, I have to say this, but it's like sending your significant other grocery store. Like if you don't send a list, you're not getting what you need. You're gonna ask for cottage cheese and you're gonna get sour cream. Yeah. Send them with like a dummy proof, just like all the records they need, all the questions you need to ask.

Yeah, and you'll be fine, yep. Or just call doctor Josie.

Yeah, directly, directly, Okay, number two on the list, we do not want to bring any lilies into the household if you own a cat. The entire plant lily plant is toxic, so the stem, the leaves, the pollens, even the water in the vase. And cats like to drink you know, standing water on countertops. And it's not just like a mile toxicity. They can get fatal kidney failure.

Wow. Yep, they need to put a warning on Lili's so not know that. So easter time funerals anything like that.

If you have a cat, no lilies, man, that's scary because I mean, is there other plants. I'm sure there are, but is lilies like the main one, yescause it's more common that you have them in your house.

Yeah, you cannot.

There's a website like the ASPCA Plant Toxicity Okay direct, you can basically go through all the plants. But lilies is like the one that with cats, like we really have. That's scary because we've definitely we have a cat. He's not allowed on the counters, but yeah, sometimes he does and he gets in trouble. But we've definitely had lilies in the house. Yeah, well he's okay, Murphy. That's why you don't know, you really counter buddy exactly. Yeah, that's

Just click the link and as.

Always, you can reach out to me on my Instagram at doctor Joe's event with any of your questions common feedback.

We want to hear it all. We'll see you next weeks