In Case You Missed It: #36 - Walker Hayes

Here this episode with Walker Hayes. Hey boy, hey buddy. So, uh, I guess now we spent a lot of time together because we're on the road right now together and so now I get to ask the questions that I don't get to ask, like when we're just sitting down, because the people want to know, like the real stuff, and so they'll be stuff like some of the stuff I wouldn't ask you, like we're just hanging out before show, will like tell me your deepest fear a stuff like yeah,

I don't know. Yeah, we just talked. Yeah, we're just talked. But we're always like getting ready for stuff too, because you always got go want to play. Um. So here's the the whole. What we'll do is we're kind of encapsulate you and then we'll just work back. So right now, you just signed a record deal to monu My Records. What does that mean? Uh? My goodness. Uh. I mean it means I have another chance and having a career, you know, as an artist, and and that being my

full time job. I mean, that's what it means to me. It might sound simple, but that's exactly what it means. It means I have a career, a chance at a career, a long lasting career. Again, yes again, another shot for sure. So you talk about other shots and and just quickly here because then I want to go all the way back through it. But you've been on labels before. Yeah, this is my third record deal. I've been in Nashville twelve years and I Will signed a Mercury got dropped.

I'll signed a Capital got dropped, and uh, you know, I didn't think I was going to get another chance because you don't really get that many um here. Most people don't get too and so this is my third. The thing about Walker too is that I we didn't know each other and I we first moved here. It was when my co host, Amy's mom was sick and I got the song and say, hey, this's got any Walker.

He's what the song called joy like Judy and so because and I heard the songs, so we'd be choosing to use it to make up as the name's mom was fighting cancer and we were doing a fundraiser and it wasn't for her mom. It was just we were, you know, doing a pimp and joy thing. That's how we met, and so he came and the song actually was downloaded a bunch of times, you know that kind of thing happened, and then I didn't see it for a bit, and see, I don't see anybody first of all,

if i didn't see it for a bit. And then I'm on YouTube and I do the thing on YouTube, I find an artist and it'll go also recommended, also recommended, also recommended. And so until I find music and artists and I'll go to SoundCloud, I'll do whatever, and I'm going through and I see this song right here, and I was like that. I was like, you know, that's a joy, like dude together shaking, and I was like, I don't know what this is, but it sounds like

nothing else. I remember taking that was like, I sounds like nothing else even stay. So I played it on the radulo the next morning and I was like, I was like this, you just hear something that it strikes you oddly. And then from there I just started to play all your stuff on the air because I sit there and I'll be like, oh, you think that's good. You got to hear this one star. I was like, my favorite song is a comedian is too bad? Being fun.

So all these songs as I would hear them, I would be like, this is not like anything I'm hearing right now. I'm period. And I would talk to my friends like Dan Smarts from Dan and Shay, Him and I talked about music a lot, and I was like this, Walker, hey, stuff is like next level, like cerebral type stuff. And I don't even think Aboudy even notices it right now, and he's like, well, you know, we talked about it.

Then you end up going on tour with them. Now you're on tour with me, and it's like, that's where we are right now. So that's where, That's where you are. What's where we're gonna come back to. But now I whant to go back to the very beginning. So you talk about you came to Nashville. You came to Nashville. How old were you when you came to Nashville twenty let's see seven four? You go to school and study music. I went to college and I did eventually change my

major to piano. I graduated with a degree in music with an emphasis on piano. You're a good piano player, are you? Are you a piano player? Ye? Sit down at the piano and people be like, oh, that guy could play piano. I could, Um, you know, I could. I could play with the songs, my songs, you know, I could play for myself. I had to do a

lot of classical stuff, you know, obviously to graduate. But when I moved to Nashville, are you saying backing a little bit like like a golfer would be like, I'm not that good and he no, No, I mean honestly, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really play piano until college and I met you know, a met a professor and I said, can I finish this on time? So I got pretty proficient, you know, while I was in college. It's a lot of muscle memory and a lot of

cool stuff I learned. But now I could just cord around kind of like I'm as good at piano as I am a guitar. Songs. You knew the guitar then too, the right, Yeah, well you musical through like elementary school, high school. You're growing up. My wife and I we actually met in a in a school play, you know, So I did that kind of stuff school theater and sang in choirs and things like that. Music really, um, my dad was a music minister before he started selling

real estate in Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama, and so uh yeah, I mean he kind of gave me that music bug. I didn't really chase it as like a dream, you know, a job or anything like that. Then definitely didn't even do that. Out of college. I went to kind of go work for him. So when you finished, well you went to work for your dad? Was yeah. So I finished school, got my real estate license, and I got engaged to Laney. You know, we've been dating on and

off for a bazillion years. And uh, that was my plan. That was my answer to her her dad, you know, what are you gonna do? And it was worked for my dad, and uh, my dad encouraged me to go play at a bar. It's called Mobile Yacht Club off a Dolphin Island Parkway in Mobile, and he kept encouraging me to do that. He thought it was funny kind of how I would mimic people. I knew like a couple of songs on the guitar and would play around

at the house. And he wanted me to do it, and I didn't want to do because I had stage fright that scared me to death, you know, getting up in front of people and singing, and uh, finally I said, Dad, I'll do this if you'll leave me alone you know about it, and stop asking me to do it. And I went up there on a Friday night, sang some songs and pretty much changed changed my mind about life. So you went and you performed. You were like, all right, that's what I want to do it. I mean, crazy

whim called Laney, So we're moving. Then I had to tell her parents really, and um, they weren't. You weren't too excited. I wouldn't be either. Yeah, alright, two things. One, I'm gonna I'm gonna do a commercial real quick there because it's a sponsor to people are gonna get really irritated with you if you keep going and as it goes, they're they're gonna go walk or not stop going. Good in the interview because I don't even notice I do stuff, all right, So let me talk about this. First of all,

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it was pretty wild. I mean I played, had such a great time. I'm called Laney. So I don't want to move to Nashville to sing? That was it? So I want to go he uh, you know, I think she was pretty adventurous. You know at the time we were kids excited about you know, getting out of town. Um, she was with it. I mean, oddly enough, she there was no second guessing on her part. She was ready to go. And so what what was your style back then? So my style back then? I remember two songs that

I played. One was h sitting on the dock of the bay, and then Uh, didn't doubIe Gray drift Away? Yeah, drift I guess drift Away, And uh I only played like five songs. I just played him over and over and um so yeah, I mean I was just gonna home up and singing. You know, moved to Nashville, try to be a rock star. Do you think you're gonna make it? Yeah? I did. I was dumb enough to to be like, yeah, I'm gonna go, you know, and figure this out, be famous. I mean I knew nobody.

We had a great time picking out our apartment, um and stuff like that. Honestly, meeting with their parents, they were really frightened and just thought I was nuts. You know, this was not This was on such a whim and the security that I had, you know, in Mobile made a lot more sense to them, and um so yeah, I mean, man, we just found an apartment, got married,

and drove up here. So you move here. And what does one do when you don't know anybody in a town like Nashville and you want to make music, Like, what's the first step? You go outside? And man, I mean, as cliche as it sounds, the absolute first thing I did was go sign up for an open mic night at the Bluebird. I was I don't remember exactly what number I chose, you know, to get selected that night. But so you played the first night you went. I

came on a Monday night. It stood in line, got selected. Uh they they were about to call my name, but I realized that everybody in there was playing songs that they had written, and I showed up to play cover. So we left and then I came back the next Monday with a couple of songs that I wrote that week and then performed. And it was the same rush. You know. So the first time you went, you end up not playing. Well, I check it out. I wasn't about to get up and play that. I was gonna

play drift away. Everybody give me the bet boy free enough if you write that something I wrote. So the first time you don't do it, the second time you're going, you do? What did you play? What song? You remember? I do? I remember? I played a song about as short of a time period as we have been married. I learned very quickly that when you bring up the in laws that your significant other gets really pissed, and so I wrote a song about that, and it was kind of a joke. You know, a funny song and

uh on remember the title of it. And I played too, and I just remember the crowd reacting. You know, they laughed, they had a great time. I mean, they went nuts. It's a real supportive crowd at the blue Bergs. They're there to hear the writer performing their songs, so they went nuts. I mean, it wasn't I didn't like get a deal or anything quick. You know, did you feel like after that night though, that you had submitted a little more in your head, like I can do this. Uh?

I didn't really think about whether I could or not. I just did, you know what I'm saying. And I also it was like a drug. I mean I honestly, But since then, I haven't stopped writing songs. It's just I fell in love with that, that conceiving the idea, putting it together, playing it for somebody, getting their reaction, moving on to the next one. You know, my favorite song is always the one I'm working on right now,

And that's kind of how I've been since then. It just it pretty much consumes my life and has since then. So how long until you get and I'm assuming you're getting a publishing deal first, which is what happened to get there? They pay you to write songs? How long did it take from you playing that bluebird til you getting a publish and deal? So I had a I had a day job. I booked motivational speakers at Premier Speakers Bureau, Uh in Franklin, Like what motivational speakers ran

through in Franklin. A lot of right wing conservatives, old Steelers player Rocky Blyer, a couple of authors, um, Oliver North there, Sean Hannity. We booked them. Uh some of those were exclusive. Um sorry again, trying to get rid of that tick. But yeah, just I booked them and uh lost, actually lost my job in a year. And then I got a pub deal. So it took me a year and a couple of months to secure a

pub deal. So in that year, you're just writing and singing songs to people are going, hey, check it out. I know in that year I was working, you know that was none, none to five. My clientele was West Coast event planners. So I got to show up a

little bit later and stay a little longer. But I was writing songs while I was working, you know, on my computer, just loading it up, and yeah, I mean playing open mic nights anybody could I could ever get my songs in front of Obviously I was trying to do that, playing all the local um you know songwriter nights that I could and um yeah, I wasn't really comparing myself to other people. I just loved, Like I said, I loved, loved, loved writing, I mean obsessed with writing.

So you're right, and you start to get paid to write, and what did you What were your first cut? Shoot? Man, I mean my my first pub deal actually got me a record deal first. I mean I didn't get a cut. So your pub deal got your record deal first? Is this the key Thurban demo story? No, that's that's capital. That's the second deal. The first pub deal I ever got was from a neighbor heard me messing around on the porch. He said, man, I really like what you do.

I'm gonna take you into douce you to two or three people. He brought me into town. I met two big time producers neighbor where Franklin and Franklin. Here's your playing on your porch. Here's me on the porch. Yeah, He's like, dude, I really love your voice. Did you did you write that? I'm like, yeah, you want to hear some more. You know, I wrote a song about his kid and whose name is Hogan, which that was

a business move right there. I was like, dude, if I write song by his kid, really, you know, hoo me up. So he takes me into town, introduced me to to introduced me to Scott Hendricks, David Malloy and a guy named Christie de Napoli. And uh, Christie wanted to sign me to a pub deal. The other two wanted to maybe cut some sides and do the shoppy thingy and I wasn't really ready for that. I just wanted to write, you know, really bad. I wanted to

get paid to write songs. Uh. And at that time I only had one kid, so I didn't have to make that much money. Um. And so anyway, Christie sign me under a guy named Buddy Killing who's gone now but great first publisher to have learned a lot from that guy. And Alison Jones. I know this is the industry, but signed me at Mercury and so you get a

publishing deal and a record deal basically at the same time. Well, I got a pub deal and then we we worked on it, you know, and he had cut some sides there and then they shot me and then got me, got me my first record development deal. So when you get signed to a development deal, what do they start doing with you? What do they develop? So the development deal basically got me James Stroud, great producer. He cut

some sides on me. So what we did is just accumulate songs, kept writing for a little while, Uh, chose the best ones, went in the studio, caught him with an excellent band. So that was my first experience with that, you know, And of course we came home with five songs. I thought I was gonna be Garth Brooks. I sounded like him. That sounded better than Now I was not Garth Brooks. I I had some great stuff, you know, looking back, I think some of those sides were good.

But uh, there was a falling out within the company and it wasn't long until I was off that that labeled mean that that deal expired pretty quick. So you're on, did you put a record on? I didn't. I cut five sides, literally celebrated the cutting my first five songs. You cut five songs, I'm going I were beside myself and stuff sounds so great. Uh, we finished those in

a December. I got a call in January saying that, uh, James Stroud was gone from the label and that they he had parted with co you know, head People and Alison Jones was leaving and I wasn't. I wasn't on the label anymore. But the label stayed, label stayed. Yeah, you remever put out a single? I never put out a single. Did you tell the publishing deal? You still writing, still writing, and I still still still trying to get

outside cuts, but did not get outside cuts? So you have to go to another try to get how long until you get signed to a different label. So after that it took me to two years to get another label. This when Urban, here's your This is when Autumn House, a friend of mine, pitched the song for Keith Urban. Keith Urban did not take the song, but the A and R rep at Capital Autumn House said, I like this guy singing, I like this writing style. You know

who is this kid? And uh, they said it's Walker Hayes, you know. And within a couple of months I had a deal in Capital. A lot of my deals came pretty quick. You know, deals are hard to get. But my first two just kind of fell into my lap. I mean if they just kind of came out of nowhere for me. So you get a deal, he sort of cut songs again, or to use your old songs. Oh? Man, when I got deal at Capital, I was writing you

go through the producer search. You know. I was on Capitol two years probably before we even decided, you know, to try a single. You've been slacking for two years before you put a song out. Yeah, yeah, I've been a Capital around that time. The frustrating Yeah it was, yeah, it was. I mean we were looking for the right producer. We tried some, we cut some. They just didn't didn't blow our minds, you know. So then you have your

first song. What's your first single? My first single was pants all right, she can but she came round the shoes. She can crack a wheel like Indie Yana John, she can't. I can't take off. I like that. I like that. Look you're giving the body? Do you write that? I did? I wrote it for my wife. Gives the colders, makes of plans had woman's with When you hear the song, now, what do you think why? I don't know, man, you know, I just hear it and Uh, it's just doesn't sound

you know, it doesn't sound that great. I just don't I don't hear it like I did then. And when when I heard it then, I just yeah, I just thought this is gonna be amazing, And um, I don't know, I just hear it now and it just the maybe I've gotten better at writing, you know, and I can just see the holes in there. But yeah, I career just like hearing myself on a answering machine. Thanks, So,

how the sing will do? I have no idea. The song was added heavily, you know, right off the bat, and uh, you know, I saw success coming my way quick and uh then it just hit a wall and uh some people were slow to pick it up, and it went to thirty eight and uh eventually, um, you know, Mike Dungan and Capital pulled it and they decided to go with another one shortly after that. What song was? After that one? They went with a song called wild Wait for Summer and it did not do um as

well those pants. If you have two singles that didn't work, did they drop you or they go, We're gonna work on some other stuff. So we we chilled out for a long time. You know, I got put on the back burner, and uh I sat for a long long time. And man, honestly, just to give Capital some credit, I mean they believed, I mean, they believed hardcore and and they stuck their neck out for me. Um, I didn't

fully understand, you know, the need for the machine. I didn't know how the bids really worked, you know at that time, you know, there was a little bit of arrogance. I'm not the most coachable human being on the planet, and that kind of you know, shot me in the foot back then. But yeah, we sat for a long time. I continue to just right and write and try to

give them that one. You know that they felt confident, you know, if you're gonna go three deep, a third one, I mean that's your hail Mary right there, you know, especially at the first two have flopped. Um So I fought and fought, you know, to write and and to get that that song, the one, and man just couldn't find it, and you know, eventually got dropped. And uh yeah, I mean that was that was the beginning of some

dark some dark times right there. So you get dropped. Ever, your second label, what year was that, you know, let's see it's two thimes, seventies six, probably fourteen, getting fourteen, So you get dropped in two thousand and fourteen, So what do you do well at that period? I think I have four kids, so I'm still not I'm still not a truly buried in final financial woes. But I had a pub deal, you know, and still my my publishers.

That's one thing that's that I've always had a pub deal, publishers that believe that I can get outside cuts, you know. So at that time I didn't. I wouldn't say I just shut the artist thing down, but I wrote, man, I aimed and aimed to get outside cuts. You know. I wanted outside country cuts. I wanted these mainstream artists, uh to to you know, I just knew somebody was gonna cut one of my songs are gonna be huge. Kind of solidified me a spot in that writer community.

And uh, I eventually did get a cut um from Rodney Atkins. Uh he cut one of my songs called Touching Feet, and uh it was you know, it was a great motivation, you know, to keep on writing and didn't end up being a single. But okay, what about this one? I kind of forgot about love you repeat. That's right, Gus too, right, Yeah, that was the So that was when he cut on the next album, and that was ended up being his single. Yeah, I think I killed his career. No, you didn't, Squeez didn't know.

He uh. Man, Roddy's a great guy and he believed in some of my songs. And man, even though you know, I had several of those types of songs that that would get cut and maybe they weren't the single the big the Big Dog on the record, But when you get those, man, it just kind of tells you. It's like it's like a whisper saying, hey, stick around, It's all right, you're here for a reason. What about this here cole Forth song Dirty Side Dude, I love this song.

This is my jams. You're right it Yeah, Yeah, he featured me dirty time, but if he side I love good Dirty side side? You're looking for sad I loved. I didn't know you can dance like I got it? So you together. Yeah, I'm super appreciate it. They featured me. I'm talking about a perfect girl. Man, I'm gonna tell you that everyway stopped looking at Magazine's head on out.

So you're writing. You're out, you don't have artists, y'll what you probably still want, even though you still want to be the artist, but you do have you want to be the writer. You're talking about having dark times like your mind just like where did I tell you what? The darkest period I ever experienced here in Nashville was past these cuts. You know, you get a couple of cuts, and I'm still I'm not able to I mean, I'm

barely supporting us, you know what I'm saying. No, no, the money is not just rolling in from from these types of cuts. I'm not having hit singles, which is kind of what you gotta have, you know, nowadays to to to thrive as a writer. You gonna have one every now and then. Um, I'm loving what I'm doing. I mean, I feel like I'm getting better and better and so much closer to dial in it in, you know, with with what artists need and what they want and

getting those outside cuts. But I'm playing at Puckets boat House and money gets real tight. I'm talking seriously tight, and uh, I don't really like to ask for help. And I had toyed with, you know, getting kind of a second gig, and I remember this this night, I will never forget. I'm playing Puckets boat House, which, by the way, it's like a restaurant and a stage for people.

I um just so that it's like a very famous Nashville Southern food restaurant and there's a stage, right, And so what I what I was doing is, you know, I didn't have artists deal, but I want to keep performing so that that the Andy Marshall Puckets so always so gracious to me giving me a gig, and I'm playing for tips, and what I would do is play an hour and then host an open mic night just for the community. I wanted to meet new writers and stuff and kind of do what people did for me

in my first couple of years here. So one night, this guy comes and his name is Nick Candre, and uh, sweet sweet guy comes up, wants to play at the open mic night. And he just thinks, you know, he's he's heard my songs on Rodney, my stuff on Colt.

He thinks I'm like Elvis, you know, and he's just treating me like it too, and he and he mentions at one point in the night that he worked at the tire center at Costco, and I was looking for a job at night so I could continue writing during the day, and so it was just a humbling moment to kind of be like, Hey, while you're getting my autograph, do you know any you know, is there any openings at Costco? You know, are they looking for people that

stock stuff overnight and stuff? And he hooked me up and that's how I got a job at Costco. But it was just I mean, I don't know if embarrassing is the word, but you know, it was just it was an interesting moment that he saw me as kind of like an influence on him musically, and I was so happy, you know, to meet me. And I was like, hey, uh I kind of need a job, you know, I need some help. Can you can you hook me up? And uh so that was that that was a low a low point for me. Um, kind of having to

ask for help from that guy. Do you feel like he learned from it and appreciate it even more afterward? Just through that experience with cost experience, everything everything that is connecting with people now is pretty much about that experience in my life. So yes, um, it's been truly beneficial. Um, I got a great perspective. Uh you know and what matters, you know, what matter in life. That's kind of what

Leela Stars is about. You know, I did a lot of I did a lot of I don't know what you say, like not soul searching, but you know, we uh interesting songs and it's just a roof from about daughter. Yeah. Yeah, that song is about the thumb tacks that she gave me to hold up the roof of my Honda that I had at the time, and when my roof was coming down, I lost it and I was just crazy

at that point in my life. I was drinking a time just to kind of cut the edge off the heaviness, um and the burdens and stuff that I that was kind of up against with wanting to still chase my dream, kind of thinking I was nuts um. Pretty much to let everybody looking at us from the outside, I probably

thought I was nuts too. Um. You know, I had all the kids and I was still trying to do that to take care of them when I could have you know, done a lot of other things and made a whole lot of sense, you know, to take care of them. But yeah, Little the Stars is about those thumb tacks that she she let me borrow, and I was really bummed and frustrated at the time the roof

coming out in my car. I was one of those moments in your life where you're looking up and you're like, you gotta be kidding me, you know, like I need one freaking more thing unit to carry right now. And uh, one morning, when I was about to clock in at Costco, I looked up and I saw those thumb tacks and it just reminded me. Well, first I thought of her face and just her smile and how much fun she had putting those up, and uh, she just thought they're awesome.

You know, they made the car look incredible, And it was just an interesting perspective at that time to remember, Hey, I got healthy kids, I do have a job. I have to you know what I mean. And I'm still able to write. My wife never was unhappy, you know. I was really the only one, uh that was unhappy. Um. And so that was a that was a great moment um and and got a cool song out of it. So you were drinking a lot. You don't drink it all now, so so you must be drinking a lot.

I have to stop, man, I was, I mean, we want, we want to talk about numbers. I mean I was like, I mean, I was drinking from I was drunk at Costco. Um. You know, obviously I was doing my work, um, working hard, but I mean I was, I was drinking on on breaks at Costco. You know, I go to the parking lot, you know, and do that leave, go do a show with the Bluebird. You know, they were hiring me for shows.

I was still able to get some work out of them. Um. I drink before him, drinking after him, drink while I wrote, drive home, drink because you're sad man. Uh yeah, I think you know, I think I was just uh, I just didn't want to face not making it, you know, not not being able to to take care of everybody.

You know. It's it's almost like when you're drunk. Uh, those things aren't as heavy, you know, they don't matter, I guess, and um, drinking a little bit out of just insecurity and fear, you know, I guess, uh, you know, just scared. What was the point where you were like, Okay, I gotta I gotta chill, dude. Me Quitting is the weirdest story, I don't, you know. Hopefully at some point it will make sense where I could kind of help other people and and and and and explain it, but honestly,

I mean I think I was. I think my body just said to my brain, you have to you have to quit. You know, we're working and drinking that much. I woke up on a Saturday. I remember that as in October football game day, me and football. Not drinking just didn't ever happen. That hadn't happened since I was probably like fifteen, I don't know, something crazy like that. And I just didn't drink one Saturday. And I don't even know why. I didn't like wake up and say, man,

I gotta stop. I just woke up, didn't drink that day. Um, didn't drink on Sunday. A couple of days turned into a week, you know, and then it became this like challenge where it was like I've gone this far, I want to go backwards, you know. And I also kind of had a little sobriety high. You know, when you quit drinking you've been drinking that much, your body feels really really good once it gets over, um, you know, not craving just to drink with with all your might.

But so yeah, now I'm like that was two octobers ago, so I'm a year and almost a half. The funny thing is I don't drink. Guy there, Walker doesn't drink. And when we go on tour, beer like the writers like full of beer and around it just sits there. It's like, Walker, I know you don't drink, but if you know anybody that wants beer, they can have it. Send Nikita end up drinking some of it. Show a little Nikita. So okay, tell me about this song here,

all right, this one, let's play. Let's see, man, I got all of them. It's like asking me which kid I'd like to do here? Talk about this one beer in the fridge. I quit drinking. The reason I want to get drunk because I played on the radio. I was like, I was moved by the song. Yeah, I still account for the cups when I'm driving around town and I'm still not quite sure what to do with my hands. It's in a crowd. There's a lot I can't remember, and a lot I can't get one silver

bulling in the chamber. And I don't play rush rule it without being the friend. Last of twelves, soul surviving, but my last all not the back of the bottom how ruled that all It's gonna be so real man. Uh, it just touches on a lot of you know, fears, insecurities that I deal with. And like you know, you're asking,

you know, why were you drinking that much? Uh? You know my wife has never never threatened to leave me, but she probably should have several times you know in those in those in that time period, you know, when I was drinking that much and uh there you know there was there's so many lines in that song the front.

My one song line, one lyric in that song that I feel like describes me and something that I that I deal with is the first one about ranting to your mama, church, Mama, praying for you is now well, like I'm just I just care what people think, you know, and I and I and I in my own worst critic as well. And drinking, uh made me care less. You know that was one positive about drinking. You know obviously don't you don't need to drink to do that.

But you know, I I feel pressure, you know, to to be a certain just I don't know, to succeed, you know, and uh, prem yourself for myself. But but you know, like I said, when I told Lady's parents we were coming here. I feel the eyes, you know, I feel the fill, people saying, are you crazy, You're not gonna make it, You're not good enough. You know you're not this, And I don't want to believe them, but I kind of do. And when I'm drinking, I

definitely don't. I don't care what they think. Um, but that song is so true, you know the line about the hands. I mean, dude, the first show that I played without a beer, I just felt completely naked. I mean, I've never felt stupider in my life because, you know, so many years of strumming that last chord and reaching for that beer. I was to a point where just holding a beer before I even opened the thing it gave it made me feel a sense of security. You know.

That's kind of where I was with drinking. But yeah, it's true. I mean, um, but again I will say, I mean, Lenny, it's not true. I didn't lose you know, my wife, but uh, you know, she saved many tears, you know, talking to me about it, and I was at a went where I admitted, you know, she would say things like she didn't say things anymore like do you have a problem. I would admit I wasn't in denial. At the point when I quit, I said, I do have a problem, and I can't. I'm not gonna go

without it. You know, I need this right now for me, you know, I want to move over to the comedian. Yeah, your dark songs like resonate with me, like hardcore, like being in the fridge. You know, I come from a family of addicts and alcoholics. And I was like, damn, ma I just I just I feel the honesty in these songs um with the comedian, which I'm gonna play right here. It's too bad. Being funny and being happy. He ain't the same thing. It ain't the same thing.

It's so sad some of the onliest hearts in the crowd of the most enter thing. Such a strange he is to the ones who make and laugh to keep themselves from crying, gears to the ones who make is laugh to keep themselves from cry. Like I heard this song and it's tell you it's like it can and I have issues like that, like where it's you know, I want to make people laugh so they can't see

how sad. And it's the process that I've been dealing with for a long time, and it's that's the front you try to people laugh, That's where you find love. That's where I always was able to find love. Like let maybe the guy that make people laugh, because that's I'll find the love from that. I have trouble accepting love,

of trouble giving love just from the environment. You know, you and I talking about a nature or nurture, like we have that conversation like away from stuff, and you know, for me, I think it was definitely nurture the love thing. And I heard that song, I was like, dear God, are you writing songs from my brain? Like every song he would sing, I'll be like God. So the comedian is that about a front of your specifically? So with high school with them? Yeah, it's about a friend I

grew up with and he did not, uh commit suicide. Hey, but he died at an early age. And um he was that guy, uh you know, just hilarious. Um, but did have issues, you know, and as we all do. You know, I think so many people can can relate with that song. You know. It's that we all try to find that affirmation. That's never really enough, but it sure helps, you know, it doesn't sustain any any long term healing or fix us. You know, it's like drinking

a beer. And it does make me feel good immediately, you know, and as does me performing on stage and getting that laughing. It makes me feel like I just jumped out of a plane. You know. But when you get back in your green room and you all by yourself, all the real stuff comes back, you know, when you gotta do it again. But yeah, that that song. I'm so glad a guy named Matt Jenkins and Josh Jenkins they wrote it with me, and they were insistent that that we that we do that song together, and I'm

glad you appreciate it. I'm glad people. Yeah, that's like and and we'll get to the more of beat stuff because you have a sound that is not like anyone else. But I just you know, it's my podcast. I told about whatever I want. So those are like, those are the songs that hit me hard. And I was just like, okay, he's like speed songs a lot of times don't speak

in real human words anymore. And when you do feel something out then in regardless of sonically what it sounds like, it being authentic still cuts through no matter what's behind it? Something for real still cuts through regardless of the format the instruments, like realness cuts through. And so that's what I felt from like stars and the Comedian and beer in the fridge, and but then you know, you got stuff like break the inner back, a little bit of shake,

shake a little bit, how did your dog? You make? All the stuff in your shack? And then beat on tables, beat on the wall, slammed the door, all these sounds. It's see you in that microphone and you're beaten cups and it sounds. Listen, I got a keyboard, break back the internet. You're doing all these bats B G B maniacs. But I got the record. As you're cutting this and you're playing it for people, what are they saying to you, Like, man, itsn't gonna work? Or is its great? Or what they

are they saying? Well, uh, you know, my the people at my publishing company, they saw me obviously, uh you know, to write songs, but wanted me to. They saw me with the intention of me being an artist. And you know, I think at first they thought, hey, he's gonna write that one, you know, dangerous one on the country Ready, you know that country radio slap Slam first release, bah Boom, And what happened was I kind of got off therapeutic you know, on them, like you talk about Comedian and

stuff like that. Those feel so good for me to write, you know, sometimes it's just great to get that stuff off of your chest and tell everybody that makes me feel better. And so that's what I was doing with those those dark ones and then the happy ones. That's just kind of how that's how I want a party, you know, that's the stuff I want to play live. And they definitely were. What what happened once I started turning and turning them in and my team didn't see

really a fast track. Hey this is going to country radio, you know obviously from the sound. But they just love them, you know, they liked they loved the song. They found themselves listening to them, um and cheat And I know it's cheesy, but I even found myself I would listen to them like they're not me. I'd be like, I

just liked this song the Comedian you know too. Yeah, my money wi shock sucking based on my money on a honey you make me want to shake time cruise in my mind, he said to be, I say that's something me. I scrubb in the front seat telling me hanging out like Mike my Dina funk of all this project was the first song you wrote. So the first song on this project that was written was either say

sober you broke up with me? I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg um, but yeah, those those those two you broke up with me was the one where we all went, Hey, keep doing that, because that's something about that. It's unique and digestible. And this is a single now he broke up to see me? But hey, can you broke up with me? It was can I say anything? You broke up me? What's funny is I remember texting you because this song came out. Yeah,

you know you produced it yourself. And I tell us, like, hey, or the new version, it's it's produced slightly different parts, it's like more radio palatable. And your response was I'm listening to it like I never heard of before. God and you can't grasp my party with yo. Sorry, sound bodies, don't be raining on my money proper rate for a minute.

I ain't eat my fix. Listen the yoga tripping y'o focus and girl you made Yo Man and then on me in and whoa simmer down to night and nobody making you watch me get my FeAs my That is good. So that's a single now and you're working out, you know. The interesting thing is is that And I'll just talk about my listeners for a second, because I can always tell by my listeners if it's a suppose the right way, what will work, because all I gotta do is play something.

My listeners are no bs and they don't like it. They just don't. They don't do what I say. I just try to give them good options that they probably wouldn't be able to hear other places. Like honestly, god, I can't make them do anything. But what I try to do in my job is go, this is different or this is really good, and you're not going to hear this anywhere else, and if you like it, then consume it. However, and I played that song, and I looked at an iTunes before I played it because I

like to see what happens. And I gave it one full spin. It was a three. I played it one time with an hour and half went to thirty eight or something, and I was in it, and for me, it wasn't a like for me. It wasn't like, man, Bobby, I told you you knew what was good. It was God if people can get out of that box a little bit and see this is one spin. People reacted to this song. And so you know, I've tinkered with

it a bit more. But now it's kind of like, let's let's let the label see what they can do. But it's gotta be cool to see people hear it and go, wow, I heard it. Now, I like it. Let me buy that. Yeah, it's gonna be some kind of it, like like, okay, maybe there's something to this. Do you feel that? Oh? Man? Yes? And uh, you know you have. The first question you're asking was what it what's it mean for you to to be on a label? And I just didn't It's all every day

it's a good day. I'm not kidding though. I mean every that that day we celebrated. I celebrate everything right now. And that is amazing that that that I woke up that day and you know, you play my song one time and it does that and and yes, man, I mean you know, you work so hard on music and you just think it's so good and and you just then he produced and it's so awesome and then he put out put it out there, and you're like, it's

time to see. You know, the critics are paying and using their criticizing with their money, and when they pay it, they're not criticized. And when they don't pay it, they cize, right, and so now just to see I mean, we had a sick first week when we blew it up and it was awesome, and yeah, I mean it is so it is so gratifying. Uh, you know that people that people liked it like they're liking it. I mean, hey, another song too that I saw a track and I was like, how can this song even be a song?

He just by looking at the name of it. I was like, yeah, I was like, he wrote a song about Halloween. And I remember because I think it was on the second the set. But how long is that the second age break the Internet? So Halloween? I was like, well, let me even see what this song is about Halloween? Like what is this about that? Dude? One? Like one of the deepest songs and a beautiful way, because that's like I get to take out my costume around you're

talking about your wife. Yeah, and then I knock knock on yo though. The mascot Ye shouted like glass on the phone and it was like Halloween and all the people opportun rest in piece rees, rest in piece, so deep, so good, all the people opportunder Simpies a timpies besties. What's like playing that for your wife? Oh? Man? Uh awesome because she's so numb. You know, love songs in twelve years, three or four pub deals, you write a ton of love songs and you just you come home

and you're like, did I get you? Did it? Did this one get you? And? Uh? None? None of them? You know. God, her like this one because we dated in high school and she knew that's what she meant to me immediately, you know, right off the bat, I was a real insecure kid trying to fit in andmobile, and then I met her and she just saw the side of me that she really fell in love with. And um, that's yeah, one of her favorite songs for sure.

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that's there and there, that's good. I like listen. I like having sponsors because that's how you people are listening to the we we started this thing. I mean think aboudy even gonna listen like Mike d and I this is no this is our equipment, like, this is just stuff that we wrangled up. And we started doing this little podcast and we were talking to people like, for example, kit Lyn, one of the first ones who's on your

it's just your Caitlin. Right now. I was like, hey, like come over to the house because I'm gonna do this thing. I'm gonna talk to artists, talk songwriters. And then now we got to sleep number sponsor and this thing. But so uh yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's like, let me ask you this. You put all your stuff out for free. At first, well, who thought of that?

Why was that the plan? So that was thought of by my manager, Rob Robert Carlton, and he's kind of famous now, but he, uh, you know, he heard my stuff and like we were talking earlier, he heard those songs that I was building in the shack and he said, you know, he ain't gonna fit country radio right now, but these will build a fan base. People will share these, they will love them, they will connect to them. And

so that's what we did. We just started putting them out, started touring a little bit, got a couple of opening slots you know last year, and places to go play them, got the loop, started learning how to do that because just wanted them to sound as close as I could do these tracks, and that's why we started putting out free music. And it was so exhilarating. It was so therapeutic for me. It obviously made me a better writer. I feel like they just keep getting better and better.

I'm already working on number three. I don't know where that lives, you know, as far as label stuff goes, but they will let me continue the eight tracks and so I'm excited about those. They'll just keep coming for me. I'm a huge fan of you and the music that you write, and yeah, welcome, shut up. I became a huge fan way early, like I was obsessed with it and I would say on the radio, It's like, what's

the biggest albums a year? And I'd be like, you know I played record from Urban a lot Maren and Walker Hays and I was now and I would mean it from the bottom of my heart. And it wasn't like you and I were talking every day. We were I don't even know if we were talking. We were maybe exchange the text occasionally. But I was just a fan. Like I was just a fan because I love people who try things that aren't the same, even if they fall in their face, Like I love people that take

shots falling forward, it's still it's still moving forward. And so one I like the music and too, I enjoy the fact that you were trying something new, and so I would say that stuff like magazine to do interviews like what you let's do most. I love Dirk's album, I love the Walker Hayes's album like it was just that's just because it was a like, what's the most thing that you're playing, I'll tell And so something that

shook me a bit. And I'm jaded and the first to admit it because I've been doing this now and just in this capacity for four years and I've had Garth Brooks sit beside me right and play, and I've had you name it's it's it's great, and it never loses the fact that it's great. But when when you eat Filet mignon every day, it becomes kind of normal. So it's like I enjoy it and I still appreciate it, but rarely the things shake me. Occasionally, things like really

and I'm gonna tell you. I get a message from one of my friends, she works at my record label, and it's Mega boardman and she says, uh, do you hear this song called Payne Walker Hay sent on the email. I was like, no, I'm not on his email list. I'm not anybody's email us. I didn't know he had

to email us. Like I just listened to the music and I was like, no, she goes, you should probably hear it, and I was like, we'll send me the email, and so like I'm gonna tell you eyeball to eyeball, I just sat in my car and I was like, to have someone you're such a huge fan of like even mention you and that song. I was like, this is like crazy in my life. Honestly, it means the world for you to say that, because when you put somebody in a song, you're like they're gonna hate, Like

is this gonna suck for them. It it was. It was the weirdest thing. It was a great I have trouble with emotion, feeling at trouble letting myself feel emotion because I feel like any good emotion is gonna be gone, and any good emotion has to be met with equal bad. So I try not to have good emotion like it's a listen, I'm nuts, right. I had great emotion from the song good Man, that's awesome and so and you can't do this. This is online, but this is pain

from walking around. Here you go, mate, two thousand sixteen, seven something in the morning, I was driving when a dream come true came through my high the factory speakers and on me. Bobby Bones played a song and I wrote about lonely beer and a fresh It's one of my doctrines. What you hear is out felt from the broken in my heart was about addiction, love, loss and recovery. Trust Me only wrote it because I had to get it out of me, not for Nashville, not for radio,

for nobody bought me. And maybe that trouble so pressing rewind, wrestling demons like mine looking for company in this design that doesn't really feel so grand all the time. I didn't feels so good, feel so grand all the time. I didn't know because feels so good like I get Jo bump now listen to. So I guess I want to know about it because well, I never asked you about the song because I was kind of embarrassed to do it, because it was like, yeah, I love that.

I was embarrassed. So did you know I was gonna play your song that morning? Because I don't think. I don't tell anybody I'm gonna play their music. Well, you know, when we've we've talked about this, UM, I just feel weird, you know, asking you know people to do that. You know, I honestly you know that that song is in that category of of a comedian uh leadless Starr. You know, nobody asked me to write about that. Um, I just had to, you know, it was it was a special

moment for me. I was out in the middle of nowhere, um picking up Actually I had my loop worked on in close to Murfreysboro, So I was just driving when you played beer in the fridge, and man, it just was another one of those moments where you gotta pinch yourself and and I was like, I can't believe what is happening to me at that at this point in my life. You know, I got six kids I could barely feed, uh, you know a year ago, and now, uh my work tapes rocking on the radio, you know,

and Beer in the Fridge is a naked song. I mean, it's the truth. There's like three things on the track. Um, you know, so I'm hearing Keith Urban blow it up and then all of a sudden, I hear just you know always, And it just rocked me. Man. I mean, you know, I don't have a lot of I have a lot of those moments where I like pull over and cry. I mean, I freaking love music and it it has so much emotional power over me. But I have never felt like I did when I listened to

that song. Uh. And so I had to write about that moment and everything that it made me think of, you know, how far my life had changed pretty quick, you know, And so I just blurted it all out in that song. And you were obviously a part of that story. Um. So thanks. It was a great business. But honestly, like you said, I mean, I gotta tell you, there were moments where I was like, I don't know if I want to release it. Like I was also like,

do I just put like a DJ. I didn't know whether whether you would appreciate having your name in it or I was like, he's gonna think this is just a business move. But honestly, I've rent you know, we're running by my team as I was creating the song, and they were like, man, you mentioned Mike, that guy you worked with a Costco. You mentioned your wife and your kid, and you you know the the song is

honest about every detail. There's not one I've always We've always laughed because I'm like, somebody's gonna ask about that song and be like can you can you tell me about it? And I'm just gonna be like, well, two thousand and sixteen, so you know, just I'm gonna recite this song because there's really nothing else to say. It's just the on truth down to the Costco card in the freaking console. I believe you too, because one you

didn't put it out like out out. Yeah, you sit down an email, it's still up there for you can't even like stream it. Yeah, you gotta get us nowhere, and you know, and I hope you eventually if you put it up, it's all good. And I don't believe anybody at any time for any reason. I believe you because I just I don't believe you. I don't believe anybody like you. Know how it is around here. Yeah,

when times are good, everybody's your friend. And when times aren't good, and no I want anything to do with you. And I do know that, man, And that's that's that's the nature of this beast. And so you got to find the people. And this isn't just our business, this is like a life thing. You have to find the people that when times are on that stock market downtick, that are right by your side, and you keep them by your side when that stock market goes back up

because it's gonna go back down again. And so those are the people just ride, they just ride, Let them ride with you, and you ride with them. And that's how you find the people, like the people that are with you when it's down, or the people that you just keep on surrounding yourself. Right, And there's like a few and that's it. I know. We had this whole conversation like off Mike days ago. But yeah, yeah, it's weird.

It's been cool. It's been cool getting to know you because again, I'm just a huge fan and that's why I went. And I was like, because I was doing this whole stand up comedy tour and you know, I can ask whoever I want to open. And I was like, man, I would love to freaking Walker Hayes come out because I just want to watch a blay like no other reason, Like I just want Walker to come out. And then in the middle of all this to see like you popping,

like just popping. Is it now where you're starting to be cool and people are now coming out going, hey, cool guy, you want to work together? Oh yeah, I bet that happens. And you know what, that's okay because you're gonna trust as far as you can throw them, but you can still use each other for for whatever

advantage you're working together. Yeah, and that's you know, I'm ashamed to say this, but I'm sure I've done that to some money in this town, you know, And I try to remember that that we're all capable of that. And um, but yeah, I mean a lot of people are definitely coming out of the woodwork. Um, and that's tough. You know, sometimes it's tough to accept that you need the people coming out of the woodwork, though it is the thing exactly you need them. It's just used them

for what they're there to be used for. Yeah that they're not the people that are completely down, but they're down for what you need them for, and you're down for what you need them for. Just remember I didn't come out of the woodwork. Was where I was like, I was like hiding in the woods. I was waiting, like I was up in a tree looking down. I was like, you see Walker, Oh man, it's been good.

I hope you enjoyed like hanging and talking. No, I did, man, Thank thanks for having me for like I've been on out like it's therapeutic. Here's a little something. This is called Walker singing to the Duggers. Would you like to talk to us? Oh my gosh, singing to the Duggers? You told me from the show. You tell me what this is? Hey, how's it going? You guys like music? No way? You got a second? You have the episode? Yeah,

so go ahead and tell me before I play what exactly? Okay, So this is uh s is when Derek and Jill I think is her name, got engaged and how did you end up on this show? Okay, so there The producer of the show lives near me and called me one day on the porch. He didn't hear yeah, you heard me on the back porch. Now he actually, man, He was just like, we're thinking about doing this segment. If you can give us a song, I can convince the network that they need to do this. And I say, man,

tell me about their love story. He was like, it's really cool. They went all the way to Catman Do, but they lived, you know, super close, but went all the way to another country and met each other there. So I just wrote this song and uh, he was like, boom, that's perfect for their uh engagement. Here we go. Hey guys, Hey, how's it going. You guys like music? You got a second? I got a song that reminded me music. Hey, that'd be great. Will you go up about thirty show minutes

down the street. But we had to go eight thousand miles away to meet I'm not sure the Lord was thinking taking us all the way to cat Man Do, but I know he was thinking of me when he made you so and as beautiful as that is, the acting is, first of all, has anyone ever in the history of questions answered the word no till you do? Like, Hey, do you like music? It's a safe question. Nah, not really? All right, man, Hey do you like food? No? And they just listen to the acting here, Uh yeah, what's up?

Even the Hey guys, it's pretty bad. You're just like sitting in Hey guys. Hey, how's it going? God? This is awful. They acted, nobody wrote a script. I remember meeting with him and I talked to him because he knew he was in on it. I would hope. Yeah, man, we botched it big tim But she was still, Hey, how's it going. You guys like music? She's like, yeah, I do, Yeah, I do. How lucky because of all the people in the world, they both liked music, and

you're lucky that they both did. Man, it was a dude. I'm no, I'm no actor. Come on, hey man, it's uh. And I haven't been written a song about your whole life? Yeah, do you have a second to stop for me? While I played this? Who long I read about your life? This is totally random. By the way, do you like music? I've I'm actually auditioned for some stuff and failed big time. I mean, acting is talk about putting your guard down. I mean that's a scary thing, kind of like your

comedy thing. We were talking about before we went out. I was asking you if you're a friend. It's all vulnerable. It's all vulnerable. Music, vulnerable, comedy, vulnerable acting, it's all. If you're creative, you are vulnerable because people are choosing if they like or don't like what you're doing, and you need them to do that. That's vulnerable. You need someone to like or not like you. Hopefully they like you.

But you don't create, so people don't care. You create so hopefully people care, and then when they don't, you realize I didn't create good enough or or at the time, I didn't create good enough. So just as you get up and you sing songs about your life, they are very vulnerable. I get up and I tell stories, and the entire light, the entire him is focused on my mouth. Hoole, And that's it. But I mean, really that's it. But I thrive off that the same way that you've been

writing music. I thrive off of just and again it comes back to just being like needing that love too, like that that's that's finding love for me, I go out. I need that. I need that love, so I fight for it. Have terrible relationships, God terrible. I want to talk about it. No, I don't think so it's not it's not in the moment, not right now. This is this is not a Bob. This is not a Bobby. Bobby casts a Walker podcast. All right, So download you broke up with me? That's the only saw him that

you can download. Right, Yeah, we need to do nobody making you watch. It's good. I know it's difficult to see me, but hey, you broke up with me. It was you broke up. So Walker, depending on when you hear this, will be out on the road with me until May. Walker Hayes dot com website to um whenever. What's Fun is on on tour Nikita Car when it comes out and sings Halloween with you? Is it? Like she's so good, right, and like nobody even knows about her really yet that's weird to me. She's so because

she's so good. But they're going to you know, and I'm gonna pull her once and you know she I just met her on Skype and was like, you gotta move to the States. Oh really? Oh yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know your story and I don't know oh yeah, yeah. We were just looking for someone, like I needed a girl in the band so I could like write funny stuff from a girl perspective, raise ball women. And so I went through and I didn't You couldn't find anybody. So I gave up and friend

was like, hey you should. There's just go in Australia. She's not trying to get to the States and be a singer song right over here, but she plays some pubs and I was like okay. So I skyped with her and things like ten am. I was like, hey, can you hear your guitar in the office, and she wouldn't got her guitar. Skyped with like an hour later and she played on skype. That's the only time I ever said, ever seen and I was like, oh my god, yeah, you're you're so good. She's like, oh, I didn't known

about that. And I was like, can you get on a plane in the year in three days? And she got on a plane quarter job, moved here. I didn't have any murder live. She lived with me for like two and a half months or so and so, and I was just like you just just right right. She's just writing. She got a publishing deal. She you know, you know, but she's so good. Yeah, and people will find her. I wonder if I every day let me talking dude with me. She's sick. She uh yeah, she's

like two ft tall. Here we go, Nikita Karmen. This is the first a place with this m m M. I didn't cry when he said I'm not the one because I ain't want to come undone. I hear my head up high and bit my tongue. Let the goodbye setting like us couldn't stop thinking about two of us, and heartbreaks hard to rise above. I'll take the high road and I'll keep my cool. Pretty soon won't be thinking about you. First, I me tell my friend, she's not that pretty. You don't look how for s happy

as you do with me. She's wearing that trendy Tom Petty t shirt. Stop being petty by your American girl. The first time he was my week's wage one Guila cursening a lipstick on the bathroom mirror, and damn gonna wake up, gonna feel just fine. I just gotta go a little out of my mind. First. I guys say like I know you you talk about she like calls that a EP or she's just like those are all worked tape. I'm gonna tell you something. I believe if you were to do that whole play a thing, that

joker would jump off the charge. I mean that song reminds me of like something Lord the royal personal person. You know what I'm saying. No, she's legitimately like fantastic. I'm looking over here. It's like other artists you may know if it's her, Ready for the list, Walk ahead, Lindsay l my my girlfriend, Slash, our roommate now Brandon Ray, who is like they're one of the greatest, and like that's another you can sing his brains off. The raging idiots,

Caitlyn Smith, Natalie Himby, that's her people you may know. Yeah, Walker, good luck, man, dude, thank you. I need it. I'm enjoying this. I appreciate you have. I mean, man, this is awesome. Relaxing the chair, it is I don't want to get up. He walked in the house and like this is where you live. You know what, though, seriously, you need to let somebody do a Bobby cast on you. I do every morning. It told the Boby Bunt show.

But you need some I wrote a book. You need someone asked no questions about uh personal stuff like Amy kind of did a bit, right, A mean, yeah, we don't with Amy and she did a bit. But I wrote a book. Good. I'm good on yeah, second one. I've talked about that maybe yeah, but yeah, it's good. If life's good for me. I'm the thing about me. It's about Walker. I'm a huge fan, like die hard fan,

like as legitimately as possible. And I kept you from this for a while because it was like everybody was like, all right enough for Walker ahead talking about Walker Hayes, like you just wait. I have a tweet that I say from like seven months ago that was like in a year. But it's gonna be like, why did I sleep on Walker Hays. I save that tweet. I'm gonna show everybody one day and be like I told you good to see you man. Thanks. All right, Walker Hays

download anything he puts out, I demand it. Alright, good, alright, Mike, we're out. What episode was that thirty six? All right, Walker Hayes at Walker Hayes right dot com. H A y E s walk from me on the Instagram. Yeah. At Walker Hayes on Instagram and Twitter at walkers dot com. He's out with me doing all the music and I do with the jokes until may have you announced the other thing? Ye don't know, okay, So then in mind other stuff coming down, other stuff coming for us. All right,

we'll see you, uh siting, Bye, buddy. You can hearly keep a still sing in the back up forgot to turn her part down anyway, by it