In Case You Missed It: #30 - Brandon from LANCO

They are. You just sit back and relax. Wait about eighteen nineteen minutes you'll start crying. You won't even notice it. I know that's the problem. I feel like I'm too comfortable. All about getting comfortable. I'm gonna watch a movie, but have a drink of this. Don't look at what I dropped inside of it. A Brandon's here from Lanco. And before we talk about stuff, I want to play a little bit of Lanko because you guys are considered brand

new artists. So if you haven't heard in the Atlanta's music, there's a little long lived tonight, crazy baby baby, don't be scared when you got me. When you set each other tree, there's a little song called American Love Story The River you want to be my wife. We didn't know any better. I didn't have coomba. That was what you wanted, you wanted and we can meet him Twain, We're gonna be the greatest love story is t sing. That's your best song, by the way, And we know

each other a bit a lot of people. I've never met him before. I'm just like, hey, you know, come in out of your story. I guess we've met a couple of times. Yeah, briefly, yeah, briefly, but but we've met and you guys are you guys are pretty young? Huh? We are young? Yeah, we uh are each we are thirteen, Um, we're we're all twenties. The we range from twenty four to twenty seven, So meeting aid somewhere mid twenties. I guess. So Lanco is a combination of a couple of words, right,

isn't it, Like yeah, it's a lancastering company. Yeah. From what I remember, somebody worked there and that's where you guys like practiced and got together. Yeah. Well, why so the band name comes from my name is Brandon Lancaster, So I uh so, you know that's not whouse. There is a warehouse in the story, but it's not not Lancaster. Um my name is brand Lancaster. So you know, early days in Nashville and uh, well, I'm trying to think

how far to go back. I met Tripp, who's the drummer in Lanco and he worked at a carpet warehouse, and uh I met him in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I was going to school out there, and we both played a music festival there in different bands. And I'm from Nashville. Originally, I grew up outside of Nashville that you know here that is oh, I know, which is fine. I didn't know that was rare until because when you grow up here,

everyone's from here. I grew up in Smyrna South in Nashville, and uh, yeah, we you grew up here, everyone's from here. And then I went to school and when I came back, you know, started making new friends and meeting people, and everyone would ask where I was from. And that question was so strange to me because I was like, I'm yeah, where are you from? And they're always good from here. I'm like, yeah, where are you from? What are you doing?

More people aren't from here? Oh, essentially in the business that we're in. Absolutely. Yeah, more like aren't from from I know, I've met very few people that are from here. Um, but yeah, but I went to school in Chattanooga. So when I moved back, Tripp was moving to Nashville the same week I was. So, you know, I I've been

writing songs, I mean virtually in my whole life. And uh and and so I told me, I'll have the slew of songs and I want to put a band together, and kind of gave me the idea and and so we put it to get you know, my name is Brenda Lancaster. So it started as you know, Lancaster and and something, and we thought we'd build a band route around.

Let me ask you about that. Let me stop you for a second, because I always thought, you know, all the guys in Dave Matthews band, m Dave Matthews band, like Dave Matthews, his band bon Jovi, John bon Jovi, nobody else's name Van Halen. Yeah, I got a couple of Van Hanlon. You know what, how come is it? Because you're the one that came up with the idea and he was just cool with it because the last name is not company, is it. Yeah, Uh, it actually is. No,

it's not. Um Yeah, we were duos Lancaskop. No. It was I think the way it started, you know, at first, like he was in a different band and I had written a bunch of songs. It was the thing where I could have done a solo project if I wanted to.

I could have just you know, made it mine and and hired guys out and you know, kind of had a revolving door, which is what happened Nashville lot and early on that's kind of what I thought might happen, you know, because I had these songs, and you just don't know how long you're gonna keep a guitar player or a bass player because everyone's working and has to you know, kind of go where the money is sometimes.

But early on it was, you know, this thing where I wrote these songs, but I want to build a band around it. I did look at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and I did look at at Dave Matthews band, where there is a primary songwriter and there's this guy that came with the songs, but there's a band around it that makes it unique and has its own sound. And when you keep those same guys together, like even like a Zach Brown band, you know what, it has

a unique sound because they've had time. The same guys have had time to craft that sound and and and build what they're doing, and and also go through hard time together, go through great times together, um and and so early on, I didn't know what it would look like, you know, I didn't know if it would be a band band or if it would be this Zach Brown band or Dave Matthews band, and guys might come in and come out, and you keep hiring and you keep adding people. I didn't know at all what it would

look like. I just knew we had Lancaster and then if Tripp wanted to be in this band, we could have a company and start building it. And that was also where the name change kind of came though, was when we shortened it. It was because it was the same guys for for a long time, and you know, we had gone a year and then we had just all become friends. We're like, all right, this is a band,

so but people know this is Lancastering Company. But let's shorten it to more of a band name kind of sound selfless thing, because Landco does not sound like random like guys. It doesn't so selfless thing to make that move to go Lanco, because if it were me, I'd have been like, we're gonna call ourselves brand Caster, We're gonna change the name to brand cater soever. But you know, I think that's uh that you two together. Well what the other two guys come from? Though? So there it's

a five piece altogether. So I so Trip and I were jamming and which one of you guys do I not know? Then? You I've never met all five of you at once. I don't think it's the one that you don't like, because that's the one I haven't met. Um who probably I mean probably Tripped, like even though you've met him at now, I'm kidding Tripping. Our best friends and obviously have the most history together. But we yeah,

there's five us all together. And we had you know, Trip myself, and we literally would just sit and he played drums and I played guitar, and it's like, man, we need more instruments, um, and so we Uh. I met this guy's songwriting competition that went to MTSU and we started talking. I was like, I'm putting this band together.

Do you know any guitar players, Let's start there, and he gave me a list of guitar players and going back to kind of the session player thing, I met one guy who was awesome and he was great, good vibe, good hanging. And I was like, Oh, this guy is awesome. I can't wait from the play with us. He was like, yeah, you know, my day rates two fifty a day, and I immediately was like, oh, that may not work, which means he's not investing coming in low with the high.

He just wants to pay right right. He's a player, which he deserves. I mean, you know, he had done a lot of things and play with other people, and this is he's at that point where he is a professional career musician. Where we were doing this thing, we were building it from the ground up, and uh, you gotta be poor to build from the ground up. Actually,

like you have to be willing to be poor. Yeah. Absolutely, And he wasn't willing to be poor, which is there because he didn't have to be right exactly, and and it would I don't think it would have worked because when you're starting out, you've you've kind of all got to be on the same page, because you're gonna play really bad gigs and really awkward gigs, and you're gonna be in situations where it sounds bad and you're not getting paid anything except for free food and drinks or

whatever it is. And if everyone's not in the same mindset and kind of in the same place and with the same vision, there's gonna be someone unhappy. So I think it's important in that early stage to kind of make sure you're on the same page with that. So the next guy called up went to mts U and and we started talking and we clicked musically, and and uh, you know, I invited him to come out and play

with us. So the three of us started playing, and that was Eric was a guitar player, So Eric Trip and I started playing, and then Eric went to school with Chandler who plays bass and Jared who plays everything. Um, so he brought them along. So then we had three

mts U guys and Tripped myself. And you know that it was funny because the first time I remember the first rehearsal, wasn't this random living room this guy let us use and uh, and we were playing and we had this whole plan, like I had these songs, we're gonna practice them, and and we really probably played music for like twenty or thirty minutes and then just started

hanging out. We took a break just and we hung out to like three in the morning, and then it was like, you guys, want to do this tomorrow, Like we'll hang out tomorrow and maybe bring our instruments and and so it started real organically and real naturally as as it turned into five friends hanging out who also played music. Um, okay, so you had to become friends. That's a tough thing to do. Yeah, it And five

is a lot of personalities. And I know it because one I hang out with the same people every day to a radio show, work together every day many hours, and you learn And at first was infatuation stage where you're like, these are the greatest people in the world. That's like, I'm so tired of a couple of them.

Then you're tired of another couple of them, and then you just realize what everyone's faults are and how to accept them and if you really want to be in a long term and so are the five people that you started officially at Lanka with at the same five now same five so nobody switched in it out. Nope, no one switching out. Here's the awkward question, when did you do you get paid more everybody else? Uh no, you gets split it five ways. Yeah, look at that,

so and look at that. Yeah yeah, so we I mean, and that was another thing early on, it's it's for me. Um, you're good dude. Now there there are things where in the future, you know, if people you know people right, if you're right, because put but early on, honestly, early on, I was the first one to get a publishing deal, and so I fronted the cost for everything because we we got this RV to tour around in um and I would pay for gas, like I just my publishing money.

I looked at as land cos money. So I was paying for everything and I wasn't taking money for for show gigs. I would just you know, everyone want to split it because I I I you know, I looked at it. You know, Lanco helped me get this publishing deal, and we're all in this together. And so now it's even doubts where yeah, we play shows, we all get paid for it. And it's also two different jobs as

a band. You guys are playing and it's really awesome that you split it five ways because your name is in the band, just saying, but you all do right. And if you have publishing deals, that's a whole different thing. Paid you have to write certain amount of a right. And we have different publishing deals too, you know, so like with different companies and we write for different people. You know, we're all over the place, So get really

messy if you started throwing that all in there. But as far as yeah, we're all on stage together, we're all sweating the same. We're all if someone buys a T shirt, we all work to help sell that T shirt on stage. And so there you go. That's interesting. Surprised with that whole If my name was then it what I go? Even it's probably not. My band is not real, so it doesn't matter. All our car stuff is different. Let me talk about this for a second.

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of Lanko and so, okay, you guys are a band. Um, let's just kind of go around the circle for a second and start with what's happening right now. You guys are out on the road with the couple of my friends brothers OSBO and right. Yeah, and so when you're out on the road, how much time do you actually spend together with the other band with them? Uh, it's been a pretty cool situation because we hang out pretty

much every night. Um, we you know, we kind of knew them before, and we got to hang out with them once before, and then I know, I know John from just the riding circles in Nashville and his wife Lucy, and so there's there's already kind of a connection there, and so we're we're kind of just all buddies and and I mean honestly, most nights after the show will walk on their bus and hang out until a bus call, and and before the show, you know, might hang out

in the dressing room. It's it's it's pretty tight community. It's really fun. They're good dudes. Yeah, and there are a lot of good people, and there are people and it also gets busy and groups stay in groups. But they're they're good dudes. Yeah, they're very and they're very genuine. You know. The first time we really hung out with them was at this festival in a Michigan and and I knew John, but no one really knew each other the band or you know, and in Lanko new John

or TJ. And so I talked to John. John was like, you guys should come hang out with us after we're done playing. So we were in this nine eight Winnebago at the time and they invite us onto our bus. And this was three in the afternoon and we were supposed to leave it four in the afternoon. We ended up staying there till literally two in the morning. And it wasn't just a good hang like John and TJ like we were on their bus, We're watching TV, um watching sports and and I mean they're so cool. They

literally like, man, we've been. We've been. We've been in a van, We've been in all kinds of vehicles. We know what it's like to not have a bus. If you got like, if you're tired, take a nap. You know, you guys can hang out. You know, we've got TVs. Like, grab yourself a beer, water, whatever you guys need. What's ours is yours. And so we thought that was so cool that they kind of, you know, approached it that way.

And really it just seems so genuine. They didn't have you don't have to do that you can hang out with someone to not be that inviting and that cool. And so we we from from day one, we've just thought the world of them, and I think they're really genuine guys. I think that's why a lot of the internal community roots for them to not only are they really good, but they're really good people. And there's a lot of people, but then they're genuine humans. Those dudes

are cool. I had dinner with John a couple of nights ago, and John Osborne is one with a big beard and kind of the big red hair. T J is the clean cut guy, you know. Definitely the vocalist, uh and John plays guitar like a madman. It's ridiculous. It's acts. I'm not kidding. They're one of the only acts I respect. Really. We get to be with so many acts. We've toured with so many acts past year, and I respect all of them, and they all have

different strengths. Um, but Brothers Osborne is the only band that we've toured with that if I'm not getting Every night, after we're done we load up our stuff, we all either walk back out front or side stage and just watch their set because it's so good and and every night John brings on the guitar and and t J just a great vocalist, and it's it's such a pleasure

to watch them. And it's a story of John has been in Nashville as of right now sixteen years and they're just now starting to be like a thing, right, and they've always been good, but I'm just not starting to be a thing sixteen years. It's a testament of just stay with it and grind and if okay, if a song doesn't make it, okay, what's the next one? You get dropped from a label? Okay, what's the next

one you get? What's the next one? Keep going? And you know that's that's a great story for young people because you know, you do things, just don't fall into your lap, trust me, I know. So for you, where did it start? Like when did people start sniffing around and think because like how guys are pretty good? Well, you know, we got we got our start, you know in uh we would we would play in Murphy's Broll sometimes.

But really Trip worked at this warehouse literally right down the street and uh uh Admier's warehouse and they've actually knocked it down since then, which is sad. But we didn't even we couldn't even afford a place to practice. And so Trip, you know, literally was like I have the key to my warehouse I work, and we could sneak in there at night. So we would, you know, literally sneak in there every night. And just play. And you know, there was no air, no heats when the winners.

It was freezing in the summers. Literally, there's videos going around of us like practicing in our boxers because we're all just sweating, and but we're gonna play and we're gonna practice. So we were doing that and we would play.

We would play wherever we could. But one thing for us was because we were a band and we had original music, finding a place in Nashville was always a struggle because if you go to Broadway, they want a four hour cover set because tourists, they're there and they want to hear familiar songs exactly, which I totally get an understanding. I mean, I've had plenty of nights on Broadway when I first moved here, and I love singing all the classic songs. But uh, for us, you were

you know, we're do covers. We have no problem doing covers, but we really wanted to showcase our original music and really wanted to grow as a band, growing our original music. So we would play wherever we could get a gig. But it might be outside of Broadway, it might be on Demumbrium or in midtown Um and these are streets in Nashville, the country. Yeah, it's a they're all still downtown, but they're not on that main strip and it's it's

where a little more original music is that. So we were doing that for a while and then but we all had odd jobs. You know, I was working at a concession stand and can you work at Bridgetone? I worked at Bridgetone are which is every town has a big arena, and bridge Stone is where, you know, like if Keith Urban played Bridgestone, it's you know, it's the Square Garden of New York. Which is funny you say, Keith Urban played bridge Stone because this is where are

a lot literally our lives took a turn. We had been playing this music, playing gigs, playing in bars, honestly, playing like restaurants where people are eating montrealistics and you're trying to put on a show. And one night I'm working concessions, selling hot dogs and burgers and and sewed all that stuff. And we already abandoned this point that we're practicing. Oh yeah, we were a band, we were

playing gigs, We're doing whatever we couldn't. This was a point where we were sitting around, we were trying to demo songs to Nashville. We were trying to get a producer it. But going from that band that plays some songs to a band that has recorded music, to a band that sells, to a band that gets a record deal, there's so many steps. And we were talking about those steps, you know, how do we get a producer, how do

we get recorded music? How do we afford it? Should we do a go fund me or what should we do? Right around that time, I'm working a Keith Urban concert at Bridgestone and uh, yeah, get your dog. Just doing the register and I see a guy walk by that I recognized, and his name's Jay Joyce. He's a producer

in Nashville. And he you know, he had produced Eric Church, he had produced Keith Urban, he had produced uh, Carrie Underwood and a Little Big Town and and a bunch of rock bands classic you know, Emmy, Lou Harris, Cage, Elephant Um. He was He also played with the Wallflowers. Yeah, like he's a great play yeah, I mean great musician, then producer. He's done all the Miranda stuff, Like, played a lot of guitar on that. So he's been so

I was a fan. We were all fans of his as a producer, as a player, and we we knew him, you know, and and he was just one of those guys and we love Eric Church, you know, he's he did all the Eric records. And I'm working my register at bridge Stone and see him walk by at Keith at a Keith Urban show and a Little Big Town was also playing that and he had worked on both his records. So that's that's why I was there. Um, he walks by and my line was kind of dead.

Oh you went after him at the show. I shut down my register, asked the people in my line if they could move to another line while they were yelling at me. I kind of just left and walked up to him. And what are you wearing? I needivisualized when you go up to J. Joyce is a big producer and big, big player and it's worked, I mean again everything from Faith to Urban to Thomas read a little bit. What are you wearing? I'm wearing Khaki's in a bridge Stone Arena uniform, in a name tag that says my

name is Brandon. What colors the shirt? Blue and gold? There because predators colors. So so you go up to J. Joyce who's there too, and advisor a Bridge Stone visor. Oh now we're talking. Now we're talking. You go up to this really cool innovative producer and the dorky is close imaginable and you say, what, Well, first I saw,

I was like down. It was kind of at the very end of the arena, so it was kind of dead part and he was the only person standing there, and I'm down, and I kind of go Jay Jay to see if he'll turn his head, to make sure to make sure it's him, because it's so weird that it could even be him, because you know, it's like, what is he even doing here? He's you know, he

doesn't get out much. And uh, and I got Jenny turns his head and I just walk up to him and hey, man, my name is Brandon, which was funny because I'm wearing a name tag my name is Brandon, but yeah, my name is Brandon, and uh, you know, I just wanted to tell you man, I'm a huge

fan of what you do. Uh, and just told him, you know, I love the records he had worked on and referenced some records and did you know this happens to every minute of every day, Like yeah, I'm just wondering where the approach came in, Like what did you do? This is different? You know, I don't know what I will say. One thing about Jay is he doesn't go out a lot like he was. I think three of the five album of the years the Album of the Year this year for c m as either two or

three of the five he had worked on. He wasn't at the c m A Awards, Like he didn't even go. He was working. So he but when he does go out, I know people approach him, but you know I I didn't because people always say like, oh, you made a move, like you pitched yourself, like you saw something you went not really like as much as I'd like to say like yeah, I really went for it. I just loved what the guy did. I loved his work, and we're you knowledgeable in his works and you know, you just

absolutely that's a big deal. Yeah, if you go to someone and you don't have time to prepare and you know everything about them, yeah, there's there's a respect that even though you're pitching, they're like, oh, you actually know what I do, right, And that's what I you know, initially, I just went up to tell him. I love the Air the Last Air, trich Tracker, the Outsiders that he had done, and and the little big town stuff and

also like Cage the Elephant. It's a rock band and amously you know, and I asked him a few questions about some of this stuff on the record, and so we just started talking music, um, and then that came around to him asking, you know about me and my thing, and he was like, you're a songwriter, right, because I, you know, talked about writing and it's like, yeah, I'm a writer and I'm in a band. He's like, well, tell me about the band. Kind of started talking about it,

and he just real nontionally because that that's cool. Manage should complain me some music sometime. And you got a direction that that would be uh, that would be putting it lightly. No, Uh, well, I mean the thing is Nashville, though, you hear that kind of everyone's like, let's have a dinner, let's get together, let's right together. Let's I mean, that's

that's the Nashville hey man, Let's write together. You never and I've had producers before, you know, say like, oh, I'd love to work with some stuff, man, And it doesn't happen, they don't call you back, they're busy for two years, you know whatever, and frankly you're unknown. Yeah, Like, what's the benefit of working with some kids in a dorky set of khakis? I mean, they were cool khakis. Man, there's always a benefit if you hit the right one. But there are a thousand door he gets in khakis.

As for him to go, hey, play me some music, it's one thing, but for him to actually follow up and now, how did that happen? So I I said, oh, yeah, I'd love to you man, that'd be cool, not even thinking it could be real. That was towards me in the conversation. Kind of the conversation, you know, came to an end, and I thought, what if he is serious? What if I really could play him some music? That'd be so cool just to play for him, you know, just to even go to a studio. So I like

started walking right away and awkwardly turned. I was like, hey, I just realized that I don't have your number. Is there a way I get your number? And he's like, oh yeah, Sared. He was funny. He just said it like he said his number, and thank god I had my phone out and really quickly put it in and saved it, and I was like cool, thanks, man. Was it like, are you married? Single? Got a girlfriend right

right right now? Have a girlfriend? Was it like when you meet a girl and you you meet them and you like them and you have it like, oh, I can't wait to call I don't know when I should call them, Like I don't know what day, what time of the day should I t Was that like that? It was exactly like that. I went to that night. So Trip the drummer literally lives on the next street over from here, by the way, um, and we were

at you know, neighbors down the street. We were over there, we were pubbed down there and he was there and I was like, hey, I text him after work like stay where we're at. I gotta come over the pub. I gotta show you something. And I went there and showed him, just showed him Jay's number. She said Jay Joyce and his number and he's like no, you know. And then it kind of became like, well, now what

I mean, what do we call them? So I thought, let's get some music together, Let's get some good demos so we can have an accurate representation of what we're doing. So we went through like two different producers, paid them like for demo costs. By the way, you're hiring producers to produce something so another producer hears it, right, just I mean it was just demos, you know. It's like, hey, well,

you demos aren't recording into your iPhone. There's the recording into your iPhone, the work tape, and then there's getting someone to actually put a little work into a track. And you're paying a producer so another producer will hear it and hopefully produce you. Like, it's so many little depth. That's what we were talking about, absolutely and so and

that's why that's the way you're supposed to do. You're supposed to have demos when you go to someone and and will demo stuff ourselves, which just doesn't sound as good as going to a studio. So I was all right, let's play. Let's pay a few hundred bucks per track and give him like three songs and have some work tapes. And we had two different producers, like we'd start and they'd bail. And now a month had passed since I

talked to Jay. I totally forgot about you, and so I was on my way over the studio to like talk to this producer that had had He was a good guy, nice guy, he was busy and it just he wasn't getting to our stuff. And I'm in traffic and I swear, this is like a movie and this sounds so corny, but I'm listening to radio and Springsteen comes on, not bruised Eric Church of Springsteen, which Jay had produced, and I hear it and I literally just pull out of traffic, pull into a parking lot and

I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna call him. And I just call him. Didn't have anything to offer, didn't like I loved to send you some demos. I said, hey man, this is really round Money's Brandon Lancaster. I met you like a month ago at Bridge Stone. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, what's up. I was like, hey, well, you know you you you said about a month ago that maybe I come over and play some music and I'd love to do that. And I kind of started giving my story about not

having demos. He's like, he goes, and this is very Jay goes, look kid, what do you want to do? Why are you calling me? What do you want, and I was like, I want to be an artist. I want to be an artist. I want to be a songwriter. I'm in this band. I want to play all over the world. I want to I want people to hear our music. I want to be a songwriter. I just the next step. I'm trying to get that next step. He's like, all right, we'll come over tomorrow around three o'clock. Wow,

that quick, huh. So I go over by myself and playing some songs on acoustic guitar, which it's funny. We put all that work and trying to get demos. But the way Jay is, he wants to hear it kind of. So he's like, just play, like, pick up that guitar and play, Like, play what you think is a single? So I played him a song. He's like, what you play him? We do? Yeah, I get there right here.

This is uh, it's actually you at Jay sent us this, this is you at his but I do have we do here we go, So you play you play this pharm acoustic? Yeah, acoustic? What's like when you're playing it? Are you watching it? I'm kind of but you know, I'm just trying not to think about that. This means anything in my mind when you're in those situations like I'm a very my personalize, I'll i'll look I'm very future oriented. I'll think like, well, how is this going

to play out? And what will happen if I do this and this and this. But in those kind of situations, I can freak myself out. So I kind of just that's a kind of situation where you go, you know what, this is really cool. No matter how this turns out. I'm gonna tell my kids about this one day. I want to be like, yeah, one of those guys, do

you do playing some songs. I got to meet him and played his piano, you know whatever it was, and and so I was kind of just in the moment playing the song, just enjoying that I was playing it for him, and uh, I finished, and he's stone cold, like he's good poker face and he's you know, he's not gonna like show emotions. She's like, cool, man, Yeah, so you can. You can write a good song. It sounds like a hit. That's cool. Uh, now play a song that never would be on the radio, but you

really like it. And I played him another song called in the Morning that we actually ended up cutting. Uh, and uh, it's not out yet in the morning ever, not that one. If if I wrote that, then I would have flown my private jet um every morning for those that are going to correct me on Twitter. So you play in the morning for him, Yeah, And and you know it's a it's a more of a ballad and a different time signature, and it's a little more artsy, but it's a very real song lyrically, and you know

it's a it's a love song. But it starts out, I'm tired of you, you're sick of me, um, And it's kind of about just the journey of no matter what we're going through in the morning, we're still gonna wake up and be best friends. So just know that. And it's okay whatever we're going through right now. Um. So I played him that, and then I played him American Love Story. That is your best song, by the way,

thank you. I'm glad I played it for him then, and uh, and he he thought it was cool and he was like, all right, that's that's you know, it's I've heard I need to hear. And after that, so he produced you because of that that and Mary, I guess yeah, I mean he hate producer because what we do and and I hate easily love the story. And then this is a good song. We love this one. We didn't know a long live times ago. It's fine. Let me tell you this American Love Story is for

like your best song, thank you man. We're excited about that one. And that you know from day one. American Love Story is a special song. It's a story. It's it's the reason it's a song. That's the reason you're in country music. UM, it's just that worry that people relate to. UM. And it's been cool to play it on the road literally every night, which we love it like people keep doing it. But every night people come up to us and tell us how they are the

American web Story, and that's their story. Whether it's someone's deployed in the army and they came back, or whether they met in high school or man in college, or we'll have old couples, young couples, and so it's been really cool to see a song like that relate to so many different people on so many levels and kind of put their story into it. So you and I've got it, and I got a job. I was working that nine five. I don't think about this band. The

singer kind of sucks. It's terrible. Never fell so alive. I spaming day's work, can't spaming night's drinking, halling that screaming falling day you coming back nold, couldn't come too soon, couldn't come too soon. Well, now it's gonna be up forever. You're gonna be off better. And now I was learning about American love story there from Lanco. Man, this girlfriend you have? All you guys been together, oh, man, a while. We met in college, so about six years. Mm hmmmm.

I knew there would be something to it when you took a breath before you answered, well, it's because I always get it wrong. How long we've been together? Six years? Huh? How does she feel about this with you? The growth the road. You're a good looking dude, you're fronting a band, You're getting some trade. It's as much as it's a grind for you on this front, I don't know. I never better. It's also a little it's worked for her too,

to have to be in a relationship. What's someone like you? Yeah, I mean touring, being in a band, that's one thing. Just being a relationship with me, period, I think it'd be tough. Um, but with all the added stuff. You know, one thing that I think that we have an advantage is that she was She knew me in college, We got to know each each other in college, became friends

in college, started dating college. She's seen me go from a college student playing in coffee shops and bands in college to moving to Nashville, staying up, you know, talking all night about I don't know what I'm gonna do, I don't know how we're gonna, you know, complaining. She was there when we get the record deal. She's there

when you get the publishing deal. She's there when you have first mixes, she's there when you everything that's happened, she's been there for so when when times are hard, she's kind of been to this journey with you. So she's she's really excited for me, she's really excited for the band, and she's been a part of our story.

And so she knows how hard we've worked for it, and she knows how hard I've worked for it, and so there's just so much support and so even and when times are hard, when you're gone, you miss each other, whatever it may be. UM, I think because we've built such a foundation. She's been a part of this. You'll go, you're a little bit like, hi, bright, now let's go so low. I think you can do this, but not at all. No, Yeah, she wants to be in a duo and we're gonna that's that's actually the next step.

She she used to like she's a musical person, she can sing, but she's a teacher. So it's so good. Listen, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that it's really good to date someone not in the same kind of industry. Is as I say that at the time of this recording, my girlfriends and artists. So it's it's grinding because we're both we're both in different pat it's solid that she has a foundation any job, because you're nuts, right, and

it's a nice balance. Yeah, And and teaching specifically, you know, it's cool because they get summers off and then breaks off and stuff. So she can traut like this summer, you know she can't. We played a lot of PLUSA. She can do all of Palusa and just different festivals

like that. But then, so it's nice. There are things where if you were dating someone in the industry, I think it'd be cool because you guys could talk about you can talk about industry things, and there'd be you would understand it a little more than than a teacher might. But it is nice to get off the road and kind of have another life and kind of be able

to take a break. And when she's talking about her day, I don't really have a if she's talking about her classroom or lesson plans or another teacher, whatever it is, you know, I can just relax and listen. And it's as supposed where if she was like a songwriter or I'll be like, well, maybe you should and before you know what, you're now like trying to handle two careers. Um. But I mean I think that's cool. I think that

you know, you're dating an artist. I think that'd be cool, you know, because you have then you have a major thing in common. I'm dating a good person. The artist thing. Artists are weird and and I say that, and we're both different kinds of artists. We create different things. We're nuts. You have to be nuts to do what we do. Yeah. Absolutely, Um? What what great? Like? What age of the kids that

she teaches? She's been all over the place. She used to do elementary, then she did did middle school, and now she is doing high school. Oh dude, I bet the high school kids are like all that would be. So she's a young high school teacher. She's actually fifty three, so that I'll talk about just kidding, got that November March romance. It's even longer than so. Okay, high school kids, Yeah, I mean they probably think they got I mean she's

not married, right, Yeah. Yeah. If I was in high school, i'd be like, I'm gonna get I'm gonna yeah, like the high school dude a little bit flat with her? Oh absolutely, Oh yeah. Like and she she used to help coach cheerleading, so she would be at all. She's at a private school, so it's kind of like, you know, you do everything. Yeah, Like she she was a cheerlead in high school for like a year, so they're like, oh, help with cheerleading. It's more just she wasn't like the

actual coach, just help out. But oh yeah, I would get football games or basketball games, and oh yeah, those those seniors in high school there, as far as they're concerned, they're grown men, and you know they got this like they're trying to look up miss Lanko right now in Mislanko was what's that's funny? Man? So she's a high school teacher. Yep. Do you know the stuff that she teaches, because I feel like right now I'd be so stupid

with the curriculum that's happening right now. I know, I know it's that's not it's so it's a world so far removed from mine that you know, she teaches English and she'll correct you, uh she has before, but it's not. She mainly does like papers and like you know, they'll read a book and do a book summary things like that. So it is I'm like, you know, she'll be grading all like look over her shoulder and see and she'll like correct something that sounds good to me, Like I'm

a writer. I mean, who in the years that you guys have been doing this and you've been able to go out in the road with people like who are some of the uh they acts that you've seen and went, man, that's really good because you see everybody in this town. It's such a you may look at Nashville from the outside of it's a big city, but it's such a small town for such a big industry. So you get to see everybody at some point, who have you seen you look at and you go, man, that's really good.

That's how That's how I want to do it. Maybe it's not exactly what I want to do, but that's how I want to do it. Yeah, I think, I mean, I mean definitely, and know we are talking about brothers Osborne Woul definitely one, but other than them, I mean, you know, this this summer it was really cool. We got to play a lot of festivals and so we got to see a lot of the huge you know a list people like Jason Alden and you know, I grew up with I knew Jason Alden since high school.

You know, I I'm familiar with his music, but I've never seen him live. And it was so cool because, yeah, Lanko is not Jason Aldean and and that may not be what or who we are, but seeing him put on a show and the energy and the way he's communicating the audience and just being a ringleader that night of you know, just capitalizing on this opportunity where you have all these people and you're leading the charge of this is gonna be a great night. We're all in

this together. Seeing him do it a lot. I mean a lot of the pros got to you know, I got to see Luke brian Um people like that that you see how long they've been doing it. Miranda Lambert would be another one. You know, got to see her this summer. And and there's just a craft that they've mastered and there's a reason they're up there. Yes, it's like that's when you realize, you know, the music good.

They're right in that part of it's great, but there's a reason why they're they're up there on that stage in front of ten thousand because they're so good. Keith Urban's that way for me. Like to watch Keith Urban play. You can hear songs are fantastic on the radio. He can come into my radio show and he's saying, is fantastic. To watch him play live, it's like a whole other dimension you get. You're you're like, okay, I get it. Yeah, he should be Entertainer of the Year. Then you go

watch Karen like, okay, she should be entertainer. Then you go watch Look like, okay, he should be Entertainer of the Year. So those guys that are at that level, they're there because they are so good at doing that right, absolutely, and it's something and we you can all no matter where you're at, you can always be learning. And we you know, this past year, we just we just absorbed everything because and we're a big live band, you know, our live show. We take a lot of pride in it,

and and we love the live experience. We love people showing up and and just knowing that, and that was one thing I learned, honestly all the way back working at bridge Stone was all these people are coming here. They all have jobs, they all may have had a hard week, they all may have problems in relationships, whatever it may be. But tonight is a big night. It's a special night that they're going to tell their friends about.

I mean, you know, that's like trip he saw. Jay's not even his sixteen and he still talks about it and it's so cool. You know. Bruce Springsteen, I heard a thing where he always, you know, will tell his band tonight could be somebody's first show and it could

be somebody's last, so let's play like it. And knowing that you have this chance to impact people on a night and impact their lives and relate to them and sing these songs that it may be their anniversary song, or it may take them back to a time in

college where it was them and all their friends. It's just such an honor to be able to to have that opportunity to to play in front of people like that, and seeing these people that have been doing it for so long it have mastered it and still just go out. There was so much energy and are so captivating. It's it's really fun to watch. You know. One of my friends, and I don't use that word loosely, is Christian Bush from sugar Land, who is now doing stuff solo, but

it's still they're still sugar Land. And so you know, at five, seven, nine years ago, all those Sugarland was a list number one, f number one, playing stadiums, Rena's whatever you want to call them, you know, the big gigs, right. And I was talking to Christian because Christian came out and played with us the Raging Idiots, and he played guitar and just saying background and Christian, I've written a bunch together. We've written some some fun songs, goofy songs,

you know, and so um there's that I was. We were what we were doing, we were playing dope, Campbell Stadium. We're playing Florida State University, and so it was us an old dominion of Tyler Farr, and Christian was playing guitar for us, and he's just doing it because he's a nice guys, just a good dude. And I was like, hey man, when and he goes, you know, I have actually played the stadium, you know, with sugar Land we played, and I was like, what is it like moving up?

Going from clubs to bigger clubs, maybe theaters, then you start playing the arenas. He said, you know, it was a lot like I was so excited for those stadium arena shows. But when once you do them, he said, sometimes it sounds sucks sometimes the guitars, alright, because it's

kind of the same thing. It's always the same. And if you just practice in the smallest places at being the biggest you can be, and you condition your up to be that big all the way up and maintain it stays the same all the way through, because crap happens that at every state. Yeah, you're making more money, but as an effect, how good you are, but at that point you should already be there. Yeah, And I think that early on that was kind of our mentality.

Like I said, we were playing restaurants because even playing a bar was tough. So a restaurant maybe like okay, you can play whatever you want for an hour and a half. You know, we have losing money early, a lot of bands losing gosh, yes, absolutely losing. I mean yeah, you would pay to play a gig, like as if you're gonna drive to Chattanooger, drive to Atlanta or wherever it may be, or Indianapolis, they may throw two five

hundred bucks. Well by the time you you pay for gas, or if you stay in a hotel, you're absolutely paying about a hundred two hundred bucks to play that show. But you're just doing it because one you're you're trying to get better, you're trying to kind of get your name out there. But a big part of it early on was we weren't playing great gigs. We weren't playing great venues. You know there we were happy to be there, but you know they weren't. It wasn't a theater, it

wasn't a stadium, it wasn't a club even. And we recognized early on, if we don't go out there every night and just play the best, that we can and have fun and enjoy what we're doing and care that. You know what, there's only three people here, but this could be cool for them. This is you know, let's let's give them good music and play the best we can. If you don't do that, it'll get really old, really fast.

Because it is it's microphones everything. It's the same microphones, same guitars, it's monitors, it's a stage, you know it a lot of it. You're going through the same thing. So if you are reminding yourself, like I get to be on stage and play music and I get to give this gift to people in the audience, then I think it could be a letdown. It could be the point.

I think that people that have long careers, I think it's because they really do love it and they're in it because they love it because and they don't know how to do anything else. Because if you were just doing it to play the more people, and play the more people and get more, there's always gonna be another thing you're trying to get to. There's always it's like chasing money and the career world, the more chase money,

the less money you're actually going to make. For the most part, you're if you chase passion, you're going to work harder at it. You're going to get better at it because you're working harder, and because you're getting better at it, then the money comes. And I think too, you know one thing in the band, when you travel a lot and you you play with all these other bands, it's weird when you start doing this professionally because there's

literally a ranking system. I mean there's literally a chart and it's like, well, you have the number whatever song, or you have the number or and then you're on the road, it's like, well they have a big fancy tour bus. Well, then once you get a tour bus, will they have multiple fancy tour buses and there's always a ladder to climb, and we'll we'll kind of just throw out this quote that's you know, don't worry about it.

Comparison is the thief of joy because at the end of the day, we're joyful just being able to make music and play music. And the second you start saying if you get a number one, we'll guess what, there's someone out there with three number ones you get three number ones, or someone out there with ten or twenty. If you're always looking at other people and comparing yourself. It'll rip away the joy from it and and it'll stop you from loving what you're doing. Let me ask you,

this not awkward for me, Dad, I don't care. Yeah, you put out Long Left tonight. So the song comes out at your first major label single and where did the peak? I believe thirty two? Okay, So for all intentsive purposes, the single failed. If you're if you're comparing it by a chart standard, yes, and I and I I'm comparing it by whatever it's gonna say in radio world, which trust me, I have issues with two. I'm in

the radio and radio more than anybody. Which is so funny because it's like a normal person like if if you're like I had a top forty single, like, oh my gosh, you're huge, But yeah, I know you're shooting for that number one or top ten or whatever it is or whatever it is. Yeah, so this song comes out when they call you and say, all right, this song is dead. We're not pushing it anymore. Who makes that call to you? Our management talk to us about it, like,

and it was do you know what was coming? Yes? In a way, I mean you wanted to do well and obviously you have. Like I remember, it's funny because we we were learning all this last year. I mean a year ago, I wouldn't be able to talk about radio the way I could talk about it now. Charts and all that stuff. I knew what they were and you hear, like number one. I don't know, but how do you get a number one? I just I'm just

putting out music. And you know, when you talk to your radio reb check, what's your like, what's your goal for this song? Like? Where do you They're like number one? You're like, wait a number and you realize there's the standard is the number one? That's and if it's not number one? So that was interesting for us to learn. But in our mindset releasing a single, we wanted it to reflect who we are. We wanted to have you hyped to think you're about to be a number one artist?

Did did they? Did they have it in your head like you're gonna be a number one artists? Trust us on this and you were like and you're like whoa And they were like, oh, it didn't make it. If they did, we weren't hyped. If they did, I think that their job is to be hyped into into work like it's got to be number one. We're just looking at is all right, you guys are gonna work the song. We're gonna play it, and we believe in the song and we're happy it's out there. Are if you're honest

right now? I don't know. I most I wouldn't believe that answer, but I feel like you're being honest right now about this. Yeah. I mean, it's just weird. It just all happened like last year the song was just happy. It's your first single. I don't even know what a radio tour is a year ago, and then you're on radio tour. You what made you go on to radio stations and playing in front of programing regular right, And so we were you're doing all that. So we're honestly

just trying to get through. And we were also were touring a lot last year, so we're playing shows. So if they're like, hey, you moved up a spot where like great, we gotta go on stage and play like be honest with me. Was Long Live Tonight in your mind a failure you guys? Or no? No it was not, because was it a success? Yes, the way that I would leok at it. I really think it was a success because, first of all, when we're looking at our

first single, we're wanting an accurate representation of us. Who is land Co? What is land Co? What's the vibe, what's the style like? And when you're looking at a year that's an election year, you're looking at all the stuff that's going on, You're looking at people in social media and all the distractions that are around us. I wanted a song that came out first that accurately represented

who we are, both musically and lyrically. And also we're gonna play a lot of live shows, we're playing festivals. I wanted an anthemic song that people could rally around because ultimately that's what we want Landco to be. So to have a song that goes out there and I mean it had you know, it got up to I think near eighteen million streams on Spotify, So that's very playlisted. It is playlisted, not to hate on your no and there, I mean there there are instances where you look, I've looked.

It's funny because I'll look at playlisting and I'll look at an artist that had number one and they'll have like seven million streams and be on the playlist, and then we're in the thirties and have eight team million. And although there is playlisting, at the end of the day, for me, it's not about like, oh, eighteen million went and loved our song. That means it was played eighteen million times, which means that that message that we cared about and we wanted people to hear it got out there.

And you know what, getting in the thirties, people heard it on the radio. When we played these festivals, people are singing it. You know, if we play a club show, a couple hundred people come out there singing the song. So for us to have a first year on the road, first single at radio, we had never in our lives had people sing a song with us. We're just trying, Yeah,

someone knows something that you yeah. And and so for us to know that a year ago, no one could sing one word of a song unless we're playing Sweet Caroline or Sweet Caroline. Dude once again, once again, if I wrote that song, we once again we'd be at my house, in in my and on the top of the hill. Um ye, John Richards out right exactly. But we uh so it was a success. So you it was not a failure to you know, it was a lot of time. It's not a failure. It was because

the most first thing goes. Don't even get the thirties right right. I was gonna was gonna pressure hard on that and whatever you said to the truth. Yeah, everybody has their own truth. I just don't think. I don't think if you're really an artist and you care about your art and you care about your songs, yes you wanted to be successful in the charts, but that can't be the measure that's that can't be the way that you measure whether the song was successful or not, because

you gotta eat. Okay, if you're talking about like monetary, like did it buy me as many meals at a restaurant as a number? One? Would have? No, it did not. But did people hear it? Did it? I mean we would have. I've had people after a show come up and be like, when you started playing Long Lived Tonight, my friend I started crying because we're graduating college and that's been our college anthem. That one story right there, the songs of success. I mean, as an artist, you're

very much an artist. I feel like you could just go and write songs and be an artist and be cool and happy. And I didn't believe that at first. I you you're too pretty. I was like, okay, well, trust me. I've been writing songs and not having any success at all for a long time and been happy. So it's at this point in my life it's kind of I hope to always keep that. But and trust me, I want success. I want if you have number one, that means way more people have heard it and you're impacting.

But to me, even the number one just means more people are hearing it, so more people have the chance to understand you and know you and then come out to a show and then you get to give them the full thing. So that that's kind of the way that I I look at it. Very interesting. Let me read about Blue Apron. You have Bloe Apriend. I did not.

I not kidding. I've listened. I listened to a few year podcast and heard you talk about it and almost got it from my parents and my kischen right now to like, if you walk on my kitchen, like literally it's in there. You're not lying. I I'm not lying because they sent it in a box. It comes and all the ingredients are there and you could like cook for your Do you live with your girlfriend? You've been together six let's them Maybe it's religions. I don't know.

I don't know the deal to do you bet together six years? Yes? Untill talking about boy, you've been together six years. She's got to be kind of pushing you a bit, like, oh, yeah, we we have to we have the talks about making We've definitely not just talks.

We've had very serious talks about that next stage in our relationship because we're not We both wanted it was a thing where too, when you're an artist, I don't think that I could afford to live in a shoe box with my girlfriend up until even a year ago. So now it's just like okay, I mean, yeah, she's a teacher, she's a good job. But it's solid. Yeah, it's you know, my life has changed the past year year and a half, which means that we could have

more talks. I'm like, I lived with my parents for like two years here because I was making no money from music, and so when you're like living with your parents and and what I hope so what okay, and I hope it works out. I've never bet it right. I'm sure it will. It will to deal with someone who and I felt like in the last hour of us talking, I can tell that you're you're an artist person. There are there are performers, there are artists, there are musicians,

and they're all the same, but they're really not. An artist likes a full representation of them and they don't really focus on the accolades that come with it. They just want that product to be pure because it makes them feel pure. That's what I feel from you through talking to you. We just said that's accurate. That is accurate, and too, it's trust me. I want I want lots of people to know about Lanco. I want Lando to

be absolutely huge. I would love to be a huge success, but if that's going to happen, I want everyone to be on the same page. I want the fans. If you have fans of audience, you want them. You want to feel like you all have a common thread, which is this music. And so I absolutely I want huge things for Lanco. I literally want to be the biggest band there is in country music. But if it's going to happen I wanted to happen. I want to be

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and Ryan are a lot of like in that way. Yeah, you look like I'm telling you looking at you, I'm like, look at this little pretty boy. Come on, you gonna talk about some girls. I need to grow my hair out, and kind of Jesus, Ryan looks like you know Jesus, And it's a good Ryan's a good Bran's a good one. Who about you here? Hid in Preston from Locals, Which that's a good dude. I literally Trip and I listened to and Trip text him and I gotta text him

because I I did not know their story. I thought it was so cool to hear just how hard talk about working hard and sticking with it and and uh believing what you're doing enough to stay with it that long through all the hardships. I was really inspired by it. Success is not about getting it right. Success is about

continuing after you get it wrong. M Yeah, that's it, because you're gonna get it wrong five hundred breaking times, and every time you get it wrong, you learn a little something else until you learn just enough to get it right. And do you have the ability do you have the fortitude to continue hanging through all the misses to collect all of this knowledge and experience and then put out American Love Story? Because that's what's gonna happen

to my friend. I'm telling you, I got a little thing called the ear right, and my air likes American Love Story. I think it's a good going. It's a good song for you guys, like the whole thing, like the songs for radio, for the whole I hope. So because I'm excited about it, tell that long love times fine? I mean, list nothe play it. I was like, yeah, it's fine. I like you guys, and I thought you guys were good and I and I told you guys that. I was like, hey, you guys are good. I gotta

watch you playing, like, Hey, it's really good. God not that long enough time sign? Yeah, American love Story. And I wouldn't lie, I wouldn't be it. Why don't I care? Yeah, we we just warmed you up. Then, for American lives. Stay here you did? So what's the deal? Now you're out back back up planned tomorrow you're back out in New Orleans with brothers Osborne. Man. Well, is that Americans? Is that gonna be in the radio. It's gonna be the radio song, right, Yeah, it's the next single. Did

I know that? Or did I just hope that? I don't even know that I knew that. I think you hope that along with everyone else maybe, and so, but it is, it's it was decide. I mean, it's we've all been wanting that and pushing for that for a long time. It's not the single right now, there's not that. You don't have a single right now? Do you know? We haven't had an AD date yet for so, I think I was just hoping it. Well, your hopes came true.

You go just for you. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of UM and you guys are good, Thank you very much, man. And so in the land of a lot of good stuff you get you know when you're a band and it's it's rare now, you know, UM not a lot of bands. Yeah, yeah, and it's trust me. I'm I'm honored to being a band. I'm really happy that I'm in a band because it's such a different dynamic and it's such a cool dynamic, and it's it's and it's a cool dynamic to bring to country music.

That You're right, there's not a lot of so I'm I'm proud of being a band. Every fifth fought with anyone in the band. No, we there's been at some definite you know, confrontations that needs to be though. Yeah, it's a relationship, it's like a marriage, absolutely, and that's I think, you know, we actually there was a time. It's funny, Yeah, you got the infatuation stage. Then you go to that stage where everyone's getting on your nerves.

And when you work through that and you learn how what kind of how everyone ticks and what everyone's strengths and weaknesses are, then you kind of learned what buttons not to push. And and if someone says something that maybe a few years ago you would have like reacted to and picked a fight, you're like, you know, that's just the way, that's how he said, that's how he

handles that. Or or if someone handles the situation a certain way that you do not agree with or you would not do it that way, you kind of understandable that's how they are, and you come to terms with that. I think that also there was strength we have and one reason that five guys we could stick together for so long. We do all have very different personalities we have, I mean, all five of us. If they were all guys like me, I think we would kill each other.

If they were all guys like Trip. Yeah, they're all guys like Chandler. I don't know if they would kill each other. They might just like never talk to each other. He's the quiet, passive one. Have you seen all four of the other guys naked? Uh, like totally naked, it's just naked. Have you seen all of their genitalia? I don't think so. Who you gonna tell you? Have you not seen? Uh? Jared work on that and Eric? So you all work on that tonight. Actually just I'm just saying,

you know, we're on the we're on a lot. I've seen that's balls as part of it. You're just going to close. Sorry, You're just in places you're tight and changing, you see. We like to keep some mystery. That's the thing. Like, yeah, yeah, we don't want to We're gonna be together long time, so we don't want to give it all the way too early. That funny. Well, listen, good luck to you guys. Man, I appreciate you coming by the house. Thank you. Thanks

for having me. Man. Look, we kind of know each other, but not well enough to where like I'm pretty much a stranger coming over your house. So thank you for inviting me, because I did peek in your bedroom and I could be totally crazy. Still anything wrong. You've got some nice guitars, I mean like they're tempting. You do have nice guitars. Man. Thanks, I've been I've been lucky. I've I've got some cool some cool signed ones. Yeah, you're left handed, though, I have some cool ones that

I pulled. Yeah. It's what sucks for me is I'm left handed and I can't play anybody else's guitar. And that sucks because if I'm like, hey, I want to play something, I can't. Yeah. But what sucks for everybody else has they come over and I don't have any right hand of guitars. Yeah, I saw the guitar downstairs about picking up. I was like, oh, never mind, it's like it's they're wrong. Yeah, So yeah, you know, I

mean who who else plays left handed? Uh? Hendrick, but he played the Stranger still flip yeah, so um Maddie and Tay Tay plays left handed. Chase Bryant plays left handed? Who else? Might say, Kurt ba We're very similar curtain I are, yeah, pretty much the same thing. Does Paul McCartney play the bass left hand? He'd right? He Does you ever read? You ever see it? Like in read? I don't know what kind of music you like, like just you um, but you ever like study the Beatles?

And now they would have played like six hours a night in Germany. Oh yeah, yeah, they would play for hours night. And I I saw one thing where this manager came out early on to see them play and passed on him. He's either manager or someone that wanted to sign them and passed on him because he was like this whole electric guitar thing is a phase and big band music is a coming back. And it's like, man to be that guy and think you missed out

on the Beatles. You know, everybody though, the biggest act were all passed on at some point, and it's Luke was passed on. I mean everybody, everybody was paying. Everybody had failed singles like, yeah, I've talked to Luke many times, even off the year. Um, Luke and I are friendly. Off there would say it's a friend, but we're friendly. There's there are stages with me. I try to stay away from artists like personal so I can be objective

and say things like long list tonight was just fine. Yeah, you know, well, no matter what, I still want you to say that if a song is fine, I want you to say, no matter how good friends we become, if we have a fine song, please say it's fine, because we need honesty. I would just not say anything that would be that would be like, no, say it's fine. Man. So with if Luke at failed single, it's like crazy, like crazy, and he and people pass on on like crazy. So my point was I have no point. Let's do

this quickly. Take everyone out of country music from your answer that you're not allowed to answer anything country. Okay, So three artists that you love that aren't country that are alive right now? We alive? Um, do you know Jason Isabel with that countess country? You can say whatever you want. There's not a referee here. I would say, okay, well you said not countries. But he's kind of but he's like in that folk American. I would say it's American.

We love Jason Isabel uh seeing him a couple of times. The rhyman um Ryan Adams uh art, you're an art, dude. I like Ryan Adams is pure art. I mean, that's that's an art. And you love them or you're you don't get it, and sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't get Ryan Adams, but sometimes I love it. Yeah, And that's that's the thing with me. It's like as long as even with artists like that, there are things I don't get either, but you're more forgiving when you really

love them. As an artist, You're like, that's not speaking to me, But I know that this artist has the ability to as opposed to just act where you're like, oh, I like some of those songs, and if there's not a song you like, then you're done. You're like, whatever, I don't like that song. It's also the people that take chances I admire in respect even if I don't

like the chance they took. Yeah, yeah, totally absolutely, And you know who as an artist and I want one more before I before I want to I mean, another artist is not in country that you're like, Okay, Um, you know I like cold Play. I've seen them freaking awesome. Yeah, and they they're that's one, you know, Ryan Adams, Jason's Bow are more. Yeah, they're more artsy and more you know, kind of more. Cold Play was artsy though when they

came out super arts. So I love cold Plays combination of the arts, nois and the authenticity, but also their live show is what I would want out of the live show. And they're so I mean, they're so entertaining and so charismatic on stage and so captivating. So those would be my three guy called play So good. Yes, every part of them is so good. Like Chris Martin's a nut, by the way, and i've met chrismartin a couple of times. He's nuts. He's really nice. He's nuts.

But to be an artist, you're nuts, like I said earlier, and in our profession you realize that too, that to be super creative, you have got to have something inside of you that's different than everyone else. And when you're different than everyone else, you're different than everyone else, and it's tough. And I think that if you're like that, that's why I'm just so thankful to be an artist because I've always kind of known I was different than

everyone else. But when you actually it's your job to be different everyone else and and you're responsible for it, it's it's kind of captivating. It's it's freeing from this talk here. And I'm I'm going to Mike d for his thoughts in a second too. I don't really know I was getting into it this. Frankly, I was like, yeah, I'll bring right up and talk to him. Um, but I don't like I there's an artist element that I respect more about the band now, thank you, than just like, hey,

let's make a man to put out some songs. Yeah. You can't trick me either, because I'm amazing. Yeah, I mean you see that the bull crap. Sometimes I'm like, this is a joke, and that's I'm glad you see that. That's one of the biggest things we talked about that and that's we try and do video series stuff. We were to get across the dude. But you know what I'm telling you, don't waste your time with it. Just put out good songs and your fans will then find

it and then everyone like Coldplay. Do you think people knew it first, it took years first to figure it out. Don't focus on that because nobody cares. Also, nobody cares, like really nobody cares. Man give them a song, they find the song, they learn more about you, give them another song they learned. Then you have fans like real and we've accepted, we've accepted, you know what what our path is and what we're trying to do. It's gonna take time. It's gonna take work because it is it is.

It's you have a relationship with your fans, and there's that first stage with the first singles, connect the first date. Then you know, if you have a hit, that's kind of like and you just keep moving along. And it takes an album or two for people to really understand and really I mean and I think artists keep evolving and it really is relationship with fans, and but it

takes a while. I think when you take that app that does take off for people to figure out who you are and then people really love who you are and stay with you. But if you do that, I think that then there's more longevity because your fans that are not just like oh I love that song, it's cool, it's catchy, it's I really love Land, I appreciate them. I like to work, you know whatever it is, um, but it's gotta start with just Yeah, you're right. Put

out some songs. People like them to listen, and nobody fell in love with could play because of their art. They fell in love with Yellow was freaking off exactly. You gotta trust me. I know you gotta have a hit. I mean that's just that's you gotta have it. It's the name. Uh, we're run out of time. But who's in your class of artists? Not classes and good or bad? But you guys kind of came into this earth together of music, signing at the same time, like a few

artists could they could have many hits and them. But who do you consider to be in your class? Well, you know, Maren she signed like right around the same time we did. Now she has just exploded. She's coming in next week. Yeah, she's she's awesome. Signed. You never heard her? She she signed at the same time. But I would I mean we signed and then we took a while to actually get things. Give me some answers, same class, Maren Ryan, I would consider Ryan heard, Kane Brown,

Jordan reagor uh, like Brooke Eden. I'm thinking people that were like on radio to the same time. That's exactly what I'm asking for. So in five years we're gonna be like we were in the same because all the guys are in different class. You know that the Cole and Tyler Farrs that you know, there are a lot

of these guys that kind of came up together. The thing that I was talking about earlier, I just want to mention this before we get off of this, is that when I was talking about artists, what I appreciate is people that go and take chances and being okay with failure as long as they took the shot that felt good and felt right to them. Didn't listen to a lot of people going, hey, this isn't gonna work on the radio. And who's done that recently and without

commercial success to this point is Aubrey Sellers. Yeah, and I'm a big fan of her record. Yeah, I've never I've never maybe i've seen her, I have that. I don't know if i've seen her. I don't think it's sen a live, but I love a record because nobody else it's it's a full like country, blue grassy blues record. They're no acoustics, no doubt about it. It's a country record, but itunds like nothing else. And you know what, it could fall on its face and no way goodbye, or

it could really switch up an entire format. It's that kind of thing totally. The fact that she puts herself out there to fail makes me love it. I love failure. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's it's just and it's more interesting than just someone who even if it works, it's like that you just don't want to be a carbon copy of something. You don't want to be like so

and so Junior. You know, if there's a floor, you don't want to be Florger's line, Junior L. We definitely definitely don't want Flora Georgia line first, like please, God, go ahead. That's I think as an artist, if you're an artist, it's like you want to work and you want to be successful. Yes, you want everyone to love you know who you are, But if you're gonna do what you wanted to be because your original and you offered something that other people weren't offering and so yeah,

and Aubruys Sellers absolutely does that. I have decided you are that Chris Martin country music to this right, I'll take it a little weird. You can sing, you're passionate about it, like it all right. Good to see man, Good to see you. Thank you so much for having me in you download American Love Story down. Download it. He's in those streams. That's that's all. It's like Facebook, those metrics full of Craphy. But I'm glad you have

much streams it right, Okay, downloaded. That's where the key is. I agree downloading. If you love an artist, download their music because I agree those real money. You know, you guys gotta eat, Yeah, you gotta eat, and you gotta have money for the next record. And oh it's like it's fifty million stray. Yeah all right. Any questions you've you've been listening for? How long after that first meeting with Jay did you quit your Bridge Stone job? Um?

A few months? Uh? Well I quit when he finally I started writing with him and some other people for a few months and then he said, hey, you guys ready to come in here and make a record next week. That was how much notice we had. We were like sure, Like how a I'm gonna be in the studios, Like I mean, we'll stay in here until it's done. But two weeks, three weeks, so we all kind of could. You can't ask for three weeks off work. We all kind of lost our jobs after that. That's why you

have you have those jobs. You can lose them. What were you making a bridge stone? Working at that? Like say, uh, seven eight bucks an hour and free hot dogs you got the end of the night there and yeah, and I know you got one free hot dog when I you wanted. And in the night after they counted what you didn't sell, you could have a burger. Whatever you didn't sell was well, it wasn't really fair game, but it kind of was you know what I mean? What are they gonna do with it? Yea? And by law

they can't donate it. Yeah, they have to throw it out. They donated to me. Yeah, you'rely got donation, Mike. One more question is anything else you want to ask? How do you feel about it? You go, what do you think? I think this guy's he can't hear us? You think there's full of crabbing. I'm gonna put him back there, Okay, put it back up. Yeah, Uh, good to see you. Good to see you, man, than so much download, go see Lanco is that was going whatever one piece of

advice pretty soon as you get it hit solo. I hope my bands shout all these other guys did the guys. I like you guys, Thank you man, but I'm only about four of you, right, we gotta find the missing link. I don't. Yeah, that's the weird last NA tell you guys outside the hotel inside like the Hilton. Yeah, it's freezing, call white on our car. Yeah, I was like CRUs

or whatever. It's something like. It was real brief. We were like trying to say hi, but yeah, we were all freezing and it was like yeah, good, good bye. All right, we'll see you next time. I have thirty is over. Thanks our sponsors, Blue Apron Sleep number. We go buy all that stuff and download Lanco. We're gonna watch Lanko and tattoo Lanko on your body, all that stuff. Yeah, especially that one. We'll see. We'll see you guys next time. Thanks the thirty one by learning good