Episode 49 - Matt Overton

Kicker who doesn't get hit? You get hit? I get hit a little bit. So I would have to say ten to twelve years left? No, no, no, oh total total? Um. So I want to I want to get to year ten. So where are you now? So I'm going in year six? Okay, so you think at five more years than you Yeah? Yeah, let's go pull up my glow closer. Alright, So Matt Overton is here. Do you ever watch and I don't. I didn't listen the show, which is the weird thing. Do you ever watch? What's sleeve? Is that? That show?

Chris Lee knows best? No, Todd knows it. Look, I know what you're talking about look At Mighty, Looked Atup because I didn't know the show. Todd Chrisley is the guy's name, and it's on USA because I just saw it. I've seen because Okay, so I didn't know them from that show and apparently it's a big show. But I've gotten to know them not knowing they were on TV. So I met Todd at the wildfire relief and I was almost like, hey, he does some stuff on TV.

I know. It was super nice guy. He probably knew who I was. We were just talking like humans. And so I saw him again at the a c M and I knew he had a TV show but didn't know much about it. And then I met Savannah, his daughter, who was super nice too, and we talked for like half an hour and then I was like, hey, I met and I was like freaking out because I love the show. I've never even seen the show. I've seen one episode and to be so because I was just talking and this is the I'm about to say it

maybe sounds stupid. I was talking about Spray tank Girl, who just left, and she was like, I love that show. I'll watch it so much. You know them. I was like, I guess I do. I think they live down the road. But you watched one episode? Why not too? All right? I don't watch a lot of TV. To be honest with you, you don't know, not really. Chris lays knows best. And it's like it's like a Christian version of the Kardashians. It's a Southern version of the Kardashians, it is, but

people love them. Is the difference, Like, nobody loves the Kardashians unless you're like fifteen or you're twenty two. I want to be exactly like them. Nobody nobody goes I have a passion for the Kardashian Yeah, you're like, are you? It's like a car wreck, like you want to see what we're wild things they do because they're rich and they're out. But people love this show because the is hilarious. That's what everybody says. So is he just like over there?

And again, this is in no way a slam if anything, It's awesome because they were such normal, nice people to me. And I had to google because I was I was back to age the a c M. S. And I was talking to Savannah the daughter and I had to google her because it sad her name is Savannah, and there's two daughters, correct, no idea two daughters and a son. I don't know. I know there's a daughter and a

son for sure. But they are really nice. And if you're listening to this and you're like, hey, I watched that show and I wonder what their life in her life, they are really nice and they have no reason to be nice to me. So what do you read it, Mike? Well, Mike, can you figure do they live here in Nashville, Brentwater, or Franklin, But I think they film in Atlanta, film in Atlanta, and then this season is currently filmed here. Okay, really, so I'm behind. So they were in Atlanta? Okay, Well

whatever my whole story was. I was just thinking about that for you guy. Heres. I didn't know them as TV people. I just know as regular folks and they're really nice. And when I mentioned it to her a minute ago, she was like, Wow, that's so cool. They're really nice, and I was like, yeah, I got that's cool. So then she loved I'm glad you didn't get to see because that's kind of embarrassing part of my life when you have to when you have to meet someone's

bright tang girl. Because if you were, if you playing in the NFL, if you had if you told those dudes in locker room we had a spray tang girl, how would that go over? Well? Me and McAfee, my my punter, Pat McAfee, we used to get spray tans before every game. That's not great, Like it is a joke though a little bit. Yeah, because we always when we went on the road, it was a big time game.

We had to get sprays hands. But the thing was, and you you can attest to this, is that we had all white uniforms on away games and you sweat profusely throughout the game, and it's that spray tan stuff will stay in our uniforms. So you're like your uniforms were like my sheets. Yeah, they would slowly become orange with time. We would go to Australian Gold or whatever, or sun Tann City and we get sprays hands at sun Tann City. Two big dudes. What was he? Is?

He a big guy though, no bigger than a normal human. Yeah, he's six foot and two thirty. That's pretty big. Good for sure, Like you're a big you're bigger than a normal human. But I wouldn't say you're I'm honestly probably pretty small to like NFL standards, you know. For me, the crazy thing was a few years ago, I went and I had dinner with Eli Manning and to see how big he is. It's a big deal by the way. Yeah,

it was one on one dinner. It was it was like six of us, and Archie was there and Eli Peyton was playing in the Super Bowl, and so we went down New York. Nope, in Miami because it was it was the year they lost thing okay when spent Yeah, yeah, so of his Yeah yeah, it was a year they lost to Drew Brees. And so we went and it was I never tell the story because when I tell stories like this, I'm such a name dropper, and I

don't like to be that guy. I really do have a bunch of cool stories I heard that I never just dropped him. Come on, let's go that. I just don't.

I never want to be a douche bag. And so my whole part of the story was it was Cooper and Archie and Eli and a couple of my buddies and me, and we go to dinner and Eli was gigantic and he doesn't look gigantic on TV, and he looks kind of dopey, so you just think he's like this little dopey kid who gets beat up out on the because I was like, oh, like another interception, but he was. He's gigantic, and I don't know, look at

the last stats six four probably. It was so shocking to me that someone I see on TV who just looked like a normal dude was that big of a dude. Have you met Peyton? No, I've never met Peyton. I mean he's six six ish. Yeah to thirty. I mean that's big. How big is That's a big dude. And that's not even big because he's standing in a huddle. He's not the biggest dude. Did you ever play with Peyton? He left before you got there. Ye. What was kind

of his reputation in the locker room? He ran the ship, He was the captain, He was the sheriff of the colts. He built that that organization was he as a leader. Sometimes you have to not be liked there it's better in my experience, it's awesome to be liked, but it's way better to be respected, especially if you're running something and at times you have to make decisions and I do my friends. I work all my friends. You see it every morning, like these are all my people. These

are people that have known forever. But you've got to be the boss sometimes and sometimes you have to do things and say things that were like it's like, oh, man by such a dick. But it's better to be respected than everybody. Just get along and be like was Peyton at times, Like you gotta respect the dude even though you don't agree with what he says or what it was. He university just loved by everybody. He was loved, hated,

and respected. And the stories that I've heard he would literally kick people out of practice for being late, running a wrong pattern, catching or dropping a pass. Um would literally x out of all the plays and he'd run his own stuff. I mean he he commanded the entire team until Brady won this last super Bowl. And because of the super Bowl, eventually there's the point where you're like, Okay, you have enough championships. You the best. I until Brady

won this last one. I always said, Peyton Manning with the great quarterback that ever played. Because of what he did, he was the team. He didn't need an offensive coordinator. He needed nothing except his But with with Brady, Brady's now the greatest of all time in my mind, for he solidified that like everyone agrees, and it was always arguable.

You could have even said Brady beforehand, or what you could have said Montana, or you could have said Roger star back and that's the older generation or but it's just not arguable anymore. It's Tom Brady and the way they did it though too. I mean, suspended four games right off the bat, came back and just lived, never skipped a beat, and then to be down. Yeah, it was movie. It's movie, like no doubt. And dude, he everyone on Twitter that night was like, all right, Brady

is the goat, as was I and I wasn't. I wasn't in the camp of Brady being the I always thought it was Peyton Manning until Brady that game. Yes, yes, that game, That's what took it over for me. Yeah. I have a friend um that works in Andy. You actually know he works on w I s H. What's his name? Yeah, yeah, so he too tell me to sorrow about Peyton many during practice, switching out jerseys so he could donate this like he would run part of practice taking and then sign it in the game. He

would do that. He would literally walk out, so he'd go, he'd walk out in New Jersey and he said yet game one, pre game, he'd come out again for pregame, pre game with all the pads on. Take that one off and then you wear a game one. So he would always have two or three jerseys to sign and donate after each game. That's cool. Yeah, that's respect because you know what, not anybody, not just anybody can have

that many, those many, that many jerseys to just give away. Um, but that for also to be a thing, Yeah, it was a thing like I'm going to do that. It sure doesn't seem like a lot of effort, but it is effort that you don't. You don't have to do that, you don't, You just don't have to do that. So but he's loved an Indy. He'll he'll end up running for office and being the governor. We were we were hoping that he was gonna be like semi percentage owner

this offication like GM. Everyone was calling his name like please come back to Indie. Yeah, I love that, dude. I didn't mean, but my point was that Eli mannings huge what are you? Hy six one on a good day. So you're a deep snapper long snapper? Okay, what's the difference? I don't know. It says long snipper in the program, but some people say deep snoper. I don't know. Is that just because I played high school ball only? Then?

I think? I think the deep snapper is like the old school name well back when wear leather helmets in the Yes, yeah, that was a deep snapper. When you were in high school. Were you good at other positions? Yeah? I played everything? Did you play defense? Yeah? What did you play? Linebacker? D line, um on the offensive line? Played every position of offensive line, full back a little bit. Were you an elite as a high school player, No,

you really weren't. No. I was probably one of the best every year on my team, and then one of the best I don't know in our in our conference. I was like, I don't know, tier two ish meaning tier one, being like the best in the in the entire I was second team All league. How do you go? How do you get to be a long snapper? Though? Of all the positions? Like, what how do you because it's not something you go as an eighth grader like I'm about to be a crazy good life. I had

no idea what it was. In high school. I played center my freshman year and the coach called up everybody after practically, hey, we need a long snapper, and of course no one knew what that was. And we had tryouts right after practice, and literally whoever was the best to do it got the job. And I was the best at it. But I was also playing center at the time too, so it was just like, all right, you playing center and you're gonna long snap, and I

just did it. I don't I don't remember doing it in high school at all until my senior year, when I knew that getting a scholarship could be a thing. So you went to college where I went to Dabble Valley Junior College first and a long snapper, long snapper, linebacker. I played defense. I was that was my thing. And then UM got a scholarship to Western Washington two years after playing at Dabble Valley and that was for defense and and long snapper. So and so where do you

go from there? Man? I got to Western Washington. That's a Division two school. Nobody really goes to the NFL out of there. UM, But fortunately I walked into a situation where they had an All American punter and kicker for four years straight. It was one of the best in the country all levels. He was drafted, he was draft eligible whatnot. And I was in class my first three weeks on campus, I just moved up to Washington. I get a text with my coach saying, Hey, Michael

Cainan is his name. He's got to work out for the Seahawks right now on the field. He needs someone to snap to him. You need to be out there in thirty minutes, like cool, grab my stuff. Totally against nt double A regulations to do that. Um, could have got all my eligibility taking away doing that work in in front of a scout and went out there and just I guess did well because the scout was like, dude, I'm gonna be looking out for you in two years,

said some great things in my coach. My coach really got on me for that. You know, it's like, hey man, this is real deal. I think he sees something and you should probably take this a little seriously and get some work in the off season to go some camps and get some coaching and see what happens in two years.

So that's kind of what really, you know, made my dream more so of the reality of like what this could be something here, because it was always my dream and aspiration to play in the NFL at a young age. But I knew how hard it was. You know what I'm saying as an NFL player, like I just look at you like you're I would just think every girl would be trying to get knocked out by every NFL player. We have a bad rap, dude, No, no, it's bad. It's not a First of all, I don't think it's

a bad I don't think it's NFL play. Think it's dudes in general. Yeah, but it's but professional athletes have a lot of testosterone, a good amount of money, they travel a lot, and we're all assholes. I mean, but dudes in general are. Yeah, I know that, but I don't I think with the culture that you're in, it does Chris Rock said it. A guy is only as

faithful as his options, Okay, and so I would. And every girl has got to be throwing themselves NFL players, the bad players, the bad ones don't want the snags. Remember I told you you don't want the snags. Those are the ones. You got to be careful those snags and people who snag up your life. But I'm saying, guys just want to get laid. I get that for sure, and that's what That's what I will be worried about,

is when you start having sex. Babies happen accidentally sometimes, and girls want to have sex NFL players all the time, Like on the road, can we're talking about hooking up or we're talking about actually finding some because I think maybe they they look if I can hook up, then that can be the first step into getting in significant because I think long term play is to get an NFL player. Short term play is to get an NFL player for that night and maybe get pregnant and then

I get an NFL player or a paycheck. But you know, the smart ones don't go after NFL players. They go after baseball and basketball. That's big time. Money is guaranteed. But they don't even know that. I don't know. I don't think it's about women are met Mostly people don't know that. They just see the Andrew Lux, the Tom Brady, these the Lebrons, the just go everybody's making millions of dollars. I just gotta be the pro athlete for sure. It's

not even a female. It's just it's just a human thing. Filthy, filthy rich. You know, Mike, would you have known the difference in baseball players and basketball pleasure? You guaranteed money and NFL players don't. So that's not a general I do because I'm a huge sports fan and have friends and the professional athletes. But I don't think people people know that, Like, how would try? Dude? When you smart on Instagram? Dude, they're smart? Do they come at you? Yeah,

they're they're smart. What do they do? Oh, it's it's filled, man, And I'm not gonna lie. I will go through and like see what they're about. You're a dude, you know, Yeah, you're single. I'm checking it out. But like after a game, like you're on the field, you're in your path, like that's where you're your strongest, Like that's where you're on the field, in your path, like the end of the game,

and these people are everywhere. You probably walk out and this point and be like, hey, I'd like to meet you, and they would you probably to meet them, Like I'm not wrong, No you're not. Because right now in our society, the professional athlete, the rock star. You're our royalty. We don't have kings and queens, you're the you're the royalty of America, professional athletes, rock stars, I mean the famous people. So you can pick have whoever you want. I get that.

But also another thing too, that you know, football, we're in and out of that city. Basketball they're on the road ten day straight. You know they're in that's you know they can go out and actually have a good time and party a little bit. Have you walked up to fields that like to meet her and then met her? I feel like I would do all time. It never happened. Yeah, I probably don't have time. We really don't. We show up the night before what at home? Because they got

they worshiped the Colts and Andy. Yeah, but we're we're slacking in that department. And of a woman. You don't think they're You don't think that Indianapolis is comparable to let's say, let me get okay, you're not. It's not like Miami. But because I think the region that you live in, if it's a good, wholesome, if it's a colder region, there's not theres many people outside. They're not just as many outdore activities, so the fitness level isn't

as high when you look at the warm places. Everybody's in jail for sure. I mean, there's a reason that the warmer places that they California is the even like Austin, Miami. Those places you have a lot of people in shape, for sure. But India wouldn't say that's the culture. No. I feel like I know all the pretty girls in Indie, but you're talking about a city of millions of people. Yeah, but it's a small town though. It's like Nashville. I don't know, but it really is. But I don't know. Yeah,

but I kind of do, but not really. Yeah. I mean, of course you're not gonna know everybody. But what I mean is that you know, I dated a cheerleader on the team. You did, I thought that was against the rules. No, I broke the rules and I got the rules changed. So every player from here on not that's the way to go. It's not even like it's like, but doesn't every player go look at the cheerleaders and pick first. Absolutely, they're very attractive, and they're with us all the time

and they go to all their appearances. But the thing is that cheerleaders are coached and taught. They can't speak to us, they can't hang out with us. Job. Yes, it's supposed to be very professional. I get that. But outside of like work, we're bound across paths. I mean, it's just it really is a small town cross paths like it's human. Yeah, but they dog us at work. They literally turn their back on us and walk away. They don't because they don't want to lose their job,

not because they think less that. You actually probably like to meet a lot of you get yeah, but they are they're watched like hawks and so you So you just went to the guide and we're like, I like her. Well, I ended up, you know, being friends with some of them, and they just happen. Four of them all live together in the house. Sounds to little house, you know, Yeah, over for wine night, come on me and my boys. So,

so you dated a cheerleader. Yeah, but how like one of the other guys that, let's say a skill position didn't get her? Because if I her, I'd be like, let me get me a wide receiver, running back a game, dude, I don't know I got a game. I'll be like, I don't want the long snapper. I want that that tied in She was digging number forty five? Is it weird though, that you can google how much money you make? For sure? You can find out some You can find

out anything on the internet. You can't find how much money I make. You can look, it's all less. It's inaccurate, But I know what you make because they put it out there for sure. And everything is based on I mean the salaries, the salary. I mean it's everything is structured in our business. She knows, though. It isn't that weird that she knows? Aren't you worried? Because for me? It was forever a part of it? Not a date anybody is because I just didn't trust anybody. It's like

want to date? Okay? Really we Mike, can't. I stay here and we try to find that the qualities about me to make you girl want to date me? And we sat here forever and we were like, were there really aren't that many other than I'm supportive, Like I'm not no joy to be around, So why would anyone want to date me? So I'd be like, I'm just not dating anybody because I don't trust anybody. They must have bad intentions? Was why I didn't date anybody, and

that's why I don't date a lot either. Yeah, but early on, dude, I was saying out with the snags and I got I got caught up a little bit. But you know, you know, having that kids on the side. No, I don't, Man, that'd be crazy, Thank god, I don't. What's that? Is it like a hierarchy in the locker room? Like what it's gotta be? Maybe it's not like if you're sitting next to a player that's making you know,

seven million a year, Like does he get treated differently? Yeah, for sure, compared to the rookie and drafted free agent. For sure. Compared to the long snapper, the punter, the kicker. It depends, though. You have to putting you It's like putting your time in, are you guys? I like your own island because you're a special team guys, No, you're not. So you're part of the team team. I'm I'm in dude, I got, I'm in death row. Dude, I got the I'm with the dbs, the receivers. Uh, that's just we

call it. We call it. It's not like part of the locker room where you guys all it's we're in one corner. We got the stereo going man, we got rap sessions were I mean, we're we got it going on. I'm the only white guy over there in the corner with him. Are you the only got country of music? No? And you're on my team. Yeah you're not. There's a few that are down mostly not though. No, it's it's weird. It all depends though, because it's like Trent Cole, he's

a black guy, He's from Cincinnati, loves country. It's always where's Cobba Boots in the locker room? You know, I think a lot of it too. It's from just where you grew up. A lot of guys from the South love country music regardless of race. I think a lot of But but again for me, like I go in the South, I have have, I love everything everything, And that's what got me in trouble forever. It was saying that openly and making that country station, which is so stupid.

It so don't even get me started. Like I wish you would play some gangster wrap on your show for once in a while. I mean, I'm not that gangster like Amy Like for me, I mean probably my earliest was you know, the Biggie Tuopox stuff. Because I was like a young kid, and that's when it's like Snoop when man need to play Snoops record and be like don't don't. I don't show anybody because you're in trouble.

I didn't have any parents really, so nobody cared. But everybody also hide up from their parents or um well you know. It was having tone and luck with that, but he was safe. He played on the radio. No and BT was okay, but it was it was the two guys from Miami, the guests from Miami that were so dirty. Who no, no, no, no, oh, you're talking like cash Money record. No, that was later. The cash Money was like juvenile masterpe and that's like, you know

New Orleans. If I'm talking to like me so honey to Live Crew, Yeah that was way dirty. And I'm for being so young and being like, what's happening right now? Like why people? Why people playing two Live Crew? But yeah, they were they were dirty dirty. My first album that I bought was Bone Dogs and Harmony and yes, my my aunt gave me twenty bucks. I went to the record store and I bought Bone Dogs because Crossroads was the head. That was like Crossroads and it's the first

wake up, wake up, oh man. And I played that reck the CD at home and my mom was like, what is this? But you know, I remember our school dances. I was grinding on girls to Genuine's Pony, to Keith Sweat, to Black Street. He Sweat was a great dud and he does a radio show for our company now, so have I chanced to meet him a couple of times? He sweat? Dude had the love jams. Dude, I mean twisted girl, I mean, should pull up yet, I love

your baby? There you go, I mean god twisted and nobody, nobody, nobody, dude. I was in sixth grade dance into that stuff. And then there was a um yea super provocative song that came out Roomio and Juliet Hot six song up Platter just to get you wet. I don't know what's song with that? Remember that I was trying to find I do this brings me back too? I turned off mad Overton. I was trying my kids wet. So whatever you're singing out with, yeah, you're making me mine. I said, DJ

dancewers to this too. When I was later to be like slow dance time. All right, get on dance, Let's get twisted. Get my love got me in this gut be twisted only I never want you right baby got the jam? Baby Baby, I know, baby, I know baby, I love it, Mike even though I love it so but you don't be like I me the jam jammy looking what you gotta do? But I gotta bees but I gotta be strong girl. Yet didn't be wrong. Guy, I'm so good. I love he was now as like you want me? Girls? Did you? Did you? Oh? I

don't tell me with no one nobody. I was nervous of the song many. I went to go ask like the girl that I sixth grade and you only had three and a half minutes, like you had to hear it, go get you had to go. I want to feed I want to feed you. I want to show you len that I need you. I want your body. He sweat. Man, he really only had these two songs. That's only needed. I want you enough like that's it when you want me, it's bye? And who can love you like me? Nobody?

Who can say she like me? And jam nobody baby and that Biggie's by Now this brings me back to Michael Jordan's clone. I like talking a long great old navy pullovers, Michael Jordan's shoes, dude, Michael Jordan's cologne. You know It's funny about Michael Jordan's shoes is that Mike and I were looking around the house and I never could afford Jordan's as a kid, and and so I

bought a pair at a garage cell once. They were like really beat up, and I was in like seventh grade, and so I got made fun of a lot because I wore a pair of beat up old Jordan's. I was like, I was so proud to have Jordan's. And so when I finally started making money in my career, I think I started in the morning show like one so and I didn't make a lot of money then, but I had enough to go buy my first pair of Jordan's. And so I went and bought a para

of Jordan's. And I still kept the shoebox because they were that important to me because in my life, like that pair of Jordan's was like, I'm finally working hard enough to afford something I wanted my whole life, which is a pair of shoes. And it wasn't about the shoes, but it was the fact that I got to go buy Para Jordan's so that I could never afford. And I kept the box and I was like, Mike, we're looking for some like, uh like my self security cards

in there in the house. And I was like, dude, there's a there's a have a Michael Jordan's parabo. Can't get a bunch of documents in I keep that box. Michael drink cologne. Take the postions of the Weedi's box. You probably remember that though, for sure you remember that. Yeah, Yeah, we used to. So we had a one boy's bathroom in sixth grade and we'd go in there before dance, and our dances were at like two pm, so they

had to cover all the windows with like black paper. Yeah, and we'd go, Dude, we'd go into the bathroom and we'd all line up our clones, man and everyone had Michael Jordan cologne, Calvin Klein's dude, all that stuff, and we just literally just more of a brute guy myself sprayed on, sprayed on my buddies, and then we literally just like spray five different clones on and walk out

of that bathroom just feeling like let's do this. It sounds like the suicide drink of cologne giverty suicides where you're going to get a little bit of everything trips and you get and it was terrible tasting. But you're like, I'm getting suicide. That sounds like the cologne. We did it? Oh, this is it on? Like didn't even even a dance. I would just hear the song get a boner, just be like, yeah, it's like and so then it wouldn't go dancing. But I have turned backwards and just like,

let it settle itself down. Yeah it did. Who get to pick the music in the locker room during NFL games? We don't listen to music. Nothing. You don't the only personal stuff with your ears, so nothing over the top. It's a it's a coach rule, and I get it. Man, It's like, but sometimes you kind of want to just everyone want to get hyped together, and it's usually somebody with a little bow speaker that comes out. And because we don't we don't. We don't travel with a lot

of stuff. So somebody's got a cool bows thing and it's just gangster rap. I wonder when you tell I travel like you guys get does the team own a jet or do they charter edge charter? So basically do you rent a delta plane but you fly yourself? Yeah, I mean nobody else is on there with you. We have the same well it's the entire fire organization sponsors UM and then we have the same flight crew every everyway game. Is it any actually is there any extra

luxury to it? Meaning with the seat wise or is just like you're getting on adult flight with the seats because I'm sure you have food and stuff? Because yeah, we it depends on the travel. Like for us, we're pretty lucky. We have We come to Nashville, Houston, UM in Jacksonville, so that's not a long trip. But if we're doing like the West Coast stuff, or we went to London last year, it's usually a nicer Yet that London trip was that brutal to go play? Is it

brutal over there playing? It's awful but beautiful place. I want to go back. And it was cool playing whimbley. I mean that's just that's a big time. But they don't really know football. They don't, but they're loud and they love to drink and get drunk and just scream for no reason they do. I went to London and I know what's going on, and men they played their their football, it's soccer, and they're so obnoxious about like

I had. They had the flags going like Jacksonville has been over there a few times now, and uh, Jacksonville was the home too in that game, and they, I mean they had the banners out just like they would for soccer games and they had their own chance. How how would you fill up? They said, hey, Matt, we're moving our franchise to London and you gotta go play

for the London lepre Cons. I'm done, like right when they because they talked about that every year, like we're gonna get it from There's no way one team can be over there by him, because you gotta travel eight games back to the States, stay over for a couple of weeks at a time, and then you get you're not you're not gonna make Then no one's gonna want to come visit you. No one's gonna want to play for the team. Yeah, it's awful. What about Mexico City

worst that Eddie? Eddie Mexico City is like used to go to kid. He was like, first of all, Eddie grew up at a border town, and he was like, and I would, I mean even a bit ago, it might you grew up I used to walk across the border and it was a big you need to passport or anything walk across the border. What's the border town of McAllen Uh. I think that's wha it is? Maybe maybe it could be whatever. I would go across at a friend and she was fluent and lived down there.

So we go, we go across, and it was like, but you need to get it back across before nighttime. And they also don't want to mess with Americans that much at the border because you start mess with Americans and Americans start messing with them, and so they're you know, they're running their their business across the lines. Again, there's a reason you don't hear about, Mike, and you know more about this than I do, because you grew up

where I grew up in walks the hatchie. But I would go to Mexico all the time because your parents were from Mexico, deep like eight hours into Mexico. We would drive there every Christmas in summer, so I would see all that border stuff and at the borders, the borders the worst part. Eddie would say the border for bad, but Mexico City was like a whole different planet. Yeah, Mexico City is pretty nuts. It's uh. I mean when we were there, we got like our stuff stolen, and

there's the cops are terrible. It's it's insane with the borders. And what I always told was like, don't want to get caught in any sort of mess anyway. But if you were white again, they really wouldn't mess with you because they wouldn't want the American government going Okay, they would talk at more people like me, like Mexicans going back, and they know they have money, they know they're coming from the States, and they'd be like, okay, that's the person we need to go after. So you guys would

go down to Mexican drive. Yeah, we would drive eight hours. And how when you hit is there a road? Because some state to state, For example, I going Tennessee ARKANSA Arkansas roads don't say good at least in a lot of parts. So I'll drive across the state line and it's like pretty good roads too, not very good roads. Yeah,

they would have switched like that in the Mexico side. Yeah, about maybe a couple hours in you hit the roads that are just like you and mountains and that's it and you don't want to We would try to plan it out to where we were driving Mexico during the day that we were not having to stop at night

really because you were vulnerable at night. So we would leave Texas during at night, get to the border in the morning, and then drive there to the morning that we wouldn't have to stop because you don't want to stop, so you wouldn't play for the Mexico City. Well, I don't know why they had a game down there that past year, but they're going to have because they're trying to expand the brand and they took the Raiders down there in the Houston, Texas. I get that, but like

the team couldn't enjoy themselves there. They were on seven lockdown again. Though. It's not about the players and the team. It's just it's not it really, it's it's the NFL just wanted to make more money. The NBA's got unlock. Everybody knows the NBA, I mean the NBA. They're known everywhere,

so I think it's what the NFL wants. Problem is. Listen, I don't think the NFL as it is now lasts and it's not the same in twenty years because science is telling us how wrong it is to hit each other in the head over and over and over and over and over again. How do you feel about that? You know what? I there's definitely some proven facts that the NFL will not discuss, and they, as a business,

they shouldn't discuss it. Like I get it. As a business, you don't want the thing that's gonna kill your business

out there. But let me let me bring this up though, so you know, they talk about like the you know, parents are gonna let your kids play Pop Warner football and a lot of people say no, and those are the but those are like the suburban families, white collar you know, like well off families that are saying that other kids lacrosse, swimming and you before we move on, you're right because that come from a very poor school. We had two and half sports. We had football, we

had basketball, and I played baseball. We didn't have a home field, so you're right, like we didn't have those other rich kids sports and those but those kids never make it to the NFL. The kids that make from the NFL are from Florida, that all they do is play basketball and track and football and that's their way out.

And those parents and those kids are gonna be like, no, I'm for sure, I don't care that my kid maybe have CT and at age fifty, I think it's going to come down from even higher though they're run from a state level. They're going to have to eventually, because again, as time goes on and we start to see our heroes, because with television turning into social media turning into what everything, we're starting to see the Jim McMahon's, we're gonna see

the Brett Farbes, We're going to see the people. Really, we're gonna see them start to just crumble in front of our own eyes. And that's what it takes to see change. It takes a prominent person. It takes something bad to a prominent person, and then something real bad happened to seven prominent people, and then we're like whoa. Because again, we're a very selfish society. We like to see what entertains us and that's it. We don't care

about anything outside of our bubble. And when the people that entertain us start starting to effect, then we're like, whoa there's there's something wrong here. If my hero is getting sick because of this, it's what about wrestling? What about w w that's not that's not the same thing. Sure, sure it is, but what about Oh no, no, it's I'm not talking about the head hitting though. Like with football, you're talking about hit and listen, you're the NFL player.

I'm just I played through twelfth grade and then that was in my football career. But just you know, reading all of the reports, and I'm really into science and I love it just isn't good to have heads here over and over again. It's horrible. And we're seeing all of these players now that we know and watched, get this brand disease, the CT and and it's kind of that. People are getting bigger and faster, and they're getting bigger

and faster faster than the technology is getting better. Because technology is getting better, the helmets are getting better, but it's not. The rules will definitely change. There will be no kickoff returns in the next ten years. Two things. There won't be movie theaters and kickoff returns. The better be a long snapper, the better not get rid of my position. They will, but you'll be out of the league.

By then, what's the use of that. There's not gonna be a use for it, because they're going to have to stop the extra things like a kick return or a punt return where you can just go, we'll just start the ball here forty yards down. You'll be the only any more about that. It's like radio for me, like it's changing so much. And don't get me wrong, I love the fact that I can do this, Like we're the number two podcasts in the whole. Yeah, like

Planet of Comedy in the top. And this is what radio is gonna be, though, Like it's gonna be and the NFL is going to have to change, agree with Yeah, there's no question, like take that. Take the helmets off people. You see people not get hit in the head, pull the helmets off. Yeah, And but again people like, well, soccer balls hit him in the head. Okay, stop stop with the soccer balls hitting you in the head. That's not the same thing as two pound three pound guys

slamming each other hard. Soccer take over America, yeah, eventually, because it's international. Because you're seeing international takeover. We're the United States is the United States, and we're bigger and better than everybody in our minds and culturally we set the standard except for Asia and even then some but I got to go to Japan and I got to see that American really matter that much. They have their own set of celebrities and stars and screw America like

they got they have. Well we we just don't have, but they have. But we're right now where the cultural leaders. It's not going to be like that forever. It's becoming more of a world because we're so easy to connect with everybody. I should have been a pro golfer that golf. I have friends that. It's just that's crazy. That's a different kind of Athlete's awesome. It's a it's a much more of a cerebral thing. Is that my get hailing outside?

They were letting schools out because of thunderstorms. Today, the kids down here soft. I don't know why thunderstorms and it didn't even thunderstorm. That's twice in two weeks they've let people out for thunderstorms and nothing happened. Again. If

there was a tornado warning. When I was a kid, we went to school and if it didn't hit, you just got into the fringing desk and you're like, okay, let's see what happened in California earthquakes, and we were get out of the desk, cover your head like taking hands in class women, then put the top of your head. Turn the lights off. For some reason, I don't know

why that added a shield or something. Maybe it made everybody quiet, I would assume, because it's like in your car whenever you have to like find somebody, turn your volume down to your car. Really, but you're like, okay, if you focus, it helps me focus the mood. The music helps the mood. So you okay. I guess you and I met a fish. Why don't we meet? I don't even I don't remember meeting a couple of years, maybe three years now, two years. You know what it was?

It was to a C. You're right, because I've known a C for a long time through Andy Rotic, who was one of the best friends. But a C and Andy your friends, and a C and I became buds because and I don't when I want a Super Bowl Indian um. I watched the Giants beat the Patriots and a C took us, and I still felt bad about this. And Anthony Collins is his name, right, I'll let him as a c oh Anthony Calhoun, Anthony Calhoun I don't even know, but everyone knows him as I don't even

know him as his real name. People don't know he's don't know he's Bobby Yest. I bet he wouldn't even know my real last name. But that's okay because whatever A C was like, Hey, I'm gonna take your dinner and we go to this place that has a hot shamp or something what's it called. Okay, He's like, you gotta go there. He's like, you know, it's where tourist count or Peyton Manning would go and they we're like a devis and he paid for the whole mill and I was like, oh, dude, Like it's a nice of

you because he's like the nicest guy ever. And I'm a total douche bag for not knowing his real last name. But um, I remember eating those hot Everybody does that in Indy, right, they go to that place tourist thing, the cocktail sauce. That is that tourist thing. Yeah, it's not local people don't do that, No, they still do. I think it's overrated, for sure. There's probably three or four steakhouses better than Saint almost but Sam was is very it's very, very good. Why are you in Nashville? Like,

what in that? Okay? You you didn't go Okay, it's a great it's a really you don't play ball here. There's really nothing here that brought you here except itself. So why what about it brought you to here? You know, I was looking for. I love Indie, I really do. I will always live in Indie. I don't ever foresee myself moving back to the West Coast. My family is slowly kind of trickling away. California is just a disaster.

It's a nightmare. And uh, I think my dad's probably gonna be in either Nevada, Arizona, or Idaho within the next ten years. And then, um my mom's in Seattle, and so just my friends are back there. Really, I mean, all my family is on the West Coast. But um ever, since being in the Midwest, man, I just felt like this is where I was meant to be. And it started with Omaha. I was in Omaha for a couple

of years. That's a really cool town. Yeah, two really cool town at ex girlfriends from there, and now I go there and they have the College World Series I played in the minor league football team out there before coming to Indian I played the old Rosenblatt Stadium, like you played a rain of ball. No, we played. It was the UFL that started and it was one of the minor league teams for the NFL and it lasted

about five years. But I was fortunate enough to play in Omaha for two years, and so I just fell in love at that town. Do you have to have a second job when you played in the UFL. No, we made really good money. Really, I would just play. I would play in Omaha for about three months, head home where guys would sign on with NFL teams after the season. So, so you do that. How do you go from the UFL to the NFL. You just go

try out? Um, yeah, I was. I was in Arizona training at the time, and I went to a specials camp that was just only for long snappers, pointers and kickers. I was trying out there and qualified for it. And then uh, the Coults assistant coaches they're scouting and that's kind of Is there that much of a difference and long snappers, Yeah, there's there's definitely the biggest issue. The biggest difference really from college. The pros is the blocking ability.

They don't block in college and where we have to block at the NFL. I guess people can come right at you and you're blocking, you know, three hundred pound

guys sometimes, you know. So that's that was the hardest transition for me, Like how do you and just the mental side of it though, to the pressure, you know, Like I went to a small college where I played in front of like maybe three thousand people a game, and then you go to the NFL where you're playing in front of seventy and you're on national TV every week. It's like walking me through this though, because you're down and you have to snap the ball between your legs

punter a kicker. Now your body goes backward, your arms, your head go backward in the same direction as someone's hitting you. So all of this four is going backward toward the punter kicker as it's hitting you. You have to stop what they're doing and push them. It doesn't seem like say it isn't like a very vulnerable position is And they've and they've changed the rules to help protect the long snappers. Um, and so I'm lucky that

I came in with the new rules. The old rules used to be anybody can line up head over you and blow you up, and they change that because guys are getting hurt. And uh, but I have guys on my right and left side of me that helped me. They you know, they protect me as well. Is that also a kind of an unwritten rule that you don't just pound the long snapper right now? They do well, But that doesn't mean it's not like, is there a respect for like give him a half second because you

could really hurt them? Or is it just you know, I just think the position's got so much better that you can't They can't really do that anymore, just because guys are so much faster. They stop people from jumping over just now. Yeah, like you can't jump over the line anymore. And you feel like that, you know, it happened to me twice, and uh, I thought it was a great play where they jumped over the top of you. Yeah, but then I've also I've also flipped guys who have

tried to jump over me. Um, trying to feel good right, like like j J Watter one of those guys doing it, Oh, I love it? Has he tried to jump you flipped no, because he's super athletic, and of course he makes me look stupid. But I try, but he and he doesn't. He doesn't block the kick, which is the ultimate goal, right, what's the deal with that dude? J J. Watt? Like, I always feel like his teammates probably ate him. I don't know he's do you know him at all? I've

met him a couple of times. In the first encounter I had with J. J. Watt was hilarious. We before the game, the specialists all kind of hang out. We all know each other. It's a little it's a little fraternity.

We have right specialist meaning if you're on special teams for those snapper, so we always meet the other team snapper, punter, and kicker because we usually know each other, you know, and uh so we we mix and mingle, you know, pre game on usually around the oline and we're playing Houston this game, this is before J. J. Watt was like d J J. Watt and we're in we're in

the huddle. We're just bullshitting and alsodden. This enormous human literally walks in the middle of our ring, our circle, spits on the ground and then does like a bull like with his legs and then he pounds his chest and he and he runs and starts his warm up and we all looked like at the other guys, who the hell is that guy? That's j J. Watt market territory. Yeah, we on his field. Yeah, where you want. We're on the logo. Yeah, so you can't be on the log

you know better than that. But no one does that what J J did. Oh no, I agree, you know what I'm saying. But still you're putting yourself in a bad spot if you're standing on the other team's logo. This is pre pregame though we're in sweats and shorts at this point. But J J. Watt does like the let me go out an hour earlier, two hours early

run around sweat. That's why I think people get annoyed with him, like he's awesome, crazy athlete to watch you do that big jump that high just watching his workout. I'll watch his workout and be like, holy crap, this is amazing And I don't know him. But I don't know him at all, although my friend does is the head of all marketing of the Texans and she likes him. But I haven't heard anything bad about him. I mean, I'm just imagining he's a douchebag. He's a huge meathead,

which I love. You know, that would be the reason why because I always got beat up by the meatheads. So I'm like, I probably hate that we're getting done of the deep stuff. I'm just jealous, probably, like I'm just feeling very jealous right now. J J. White and but and they also put them in a lot of places, like they want him to be the superstars, so they put him as belt on the ball tight end. Yeah, you know, he's a monster dud and he he's been

three time defense MVP. Man, it's incredible. Body's already breaking down though. Yeah. Man, his back is not good at hear by Tony Romo. Good for him. I'm happy for him. Do you ever play against him? Yeah? Once did. They destroyed us, But you weren't on the You were never trying to think you were never on the filled him. He was ever just in passing, you know, like pregame,

running in the tunnel a halftime. You ever go say hi to anybody after a game, just so you could say you said hi to them, like when you're crossing out like I did. I did Tim Tebow. You had to. So I got a dude like wa version of Tebow Denver or the Jets or Jets when he was on his decline. Okay, well his decline. Someone I'm gonna say the opposite about Tebow is that what j I don't know how the one of them from what I haven't

no one heard. People love Tim Tebow like as a person, like as a human Ray loves Can you take a picture with him? But like I'll talk to people in media and they're like, he's nice in person, and he has on TV he's incredible. I don't know how he does it. So you go and you go to do you a fan girl on on Tim Tebow? Right? How does that first? It first starts out, so Tim is the kind of guy that's like pregame pre game guy.

He's out there with like the bands and doing like a worked like crossfoot workout, and he's thrown and all that kind of stuff out there and McAfee he were warming up in punts and he literally just sales a bomb sixty yards and this is going straight to Tim Tebow's head. He would be dead pregame and it literally goes right over his shoulder and hits right behind him and Tim looks around like what the hell just happened? And Pat was like, oh my god, I just almost

killed Jesus. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, dude, has some respect, because I'm like all about Tim Tebow, like because everyone give him crap, me too, and that's why I rooted for him. Everybody love him, man. And so after the game, we did our prayer circle and dude, I had to be next to him. Dude, so yeah, I had to get on knee because Tim led the prayer man. Yeah, and there was a picture, of course taken, and of course I had to. Like, dude, it's like

one of my favorite pictures. That's funny. Yeah, so Tebow, anybody else that you purposely said, hey, good game too, like you met you try to find him at the end of the game. Rock for sure, big guy, enormous like I see numbers on paper, but until you meet a human, you really don't know enormous. He's six six to seventy. He seems like he's eleven. He is, but he's just a man child. But again, he seems like he's eleven years old, like he acts like for sure,

the whole family does. And that's not even a bad thing, Like he just is a kid all the time. Yeah, his brother Chris was on the Colts when I first got there. Hilarious. Yeah, we played golf together all the time, and he had it. He played with SpongeBob score pants balls, you know, and if you would shank one into the forest, he would have to go find it. He's like, dude, I can't lose sponge that he would go digg in the woods for his ball and he'd find it. Was

there any jealousy between the Gronkowski brothers, I have no idea. Obviously, you know Gronk. The Gronkowskis are are big because of you know, the main Gronk. You know, there's there's three brothers that there might be four, and then there's a new one just coming up to is there. Yeah, he's out of college. There's four and uh so I know Chris. Obviously Rob's the more popular one, and then there's the

oldest one. Um. They all played football, they're all both Rob and his brother played for the Patriot the same time for a while. I was last year before the they end up cutting the other one bit and J J J wats younger brothers in the league that just now. Yeah, and they're moving him around to trying to figure out where to put up. Yeah, it supposed to be a first rounder like and you know, and workouts they're putting up in the test they put in like three or

four places. It's incredible. Great jeans. You in high school? Were you rated jib star? No, so you weren't recruited hard. Really, it's just it's a scholarship offer that to go junior college first. It's wild you're now in the NFL. I mean, it's a testament to it's not always about where you start. It's always about that middle and how you end up finishing it. Yeah, it's just hanging in man, really is

It's an attitude. There was times where I didn't believe in myself, but I always had somebody there, whether it's family members or other other friends or teammates that continue to encourage me. Tell me about long snapping. If you screwed up because you only have started abound of shots a game, Like how many snaps a game? Do you probably get twelve to fifteen? Okay, let's say you get fifteen, So you get fifteen shots. If you bought one of those fifteen ruins, your whole week, you feel like a

piece of crap your whole week. Oh like the whole year. I remember I remember poor snaps from three or four years ago, like over the head of the plant, and I haven't done that. Whe I would knock on this table. Yeah, there you go. So you haven't over snapped a punter, but you've bad snapping a field goal. No, don't want to be bad snapps to my I mean just like not when when the punter has to move or I've put on the ground on the punt um. It's just

not up to our a standard. So it may be missed by just watching TV, may not notice it, or it may not be a big deal, but to us it's a big deal. You ever made a really cool tackle? Yeah, or you're like, I need you go find a picture of that, Like, for sure there are cameras everyone. I gotta go find a picture of that tackle. Dannie am mondole against the Patriots. Um, I was gonna tackle against

Patriots pretty awesome. So he what he broke coverage? Then if you're getting to them, they've broken coverage and you and the punter of the last two people. You're getting down the field. Yeah, really, yeah, I'll prove it. I'll bring it in to the the show or something. I mean, I run down the field pretty fast. I'm pretty pretty quick for a long snapper. So you get down the field and you're the first one there. Second, he missed the first the first guy missed and I cleaned him up.

Am adults a taxi tack guy, right, I believe so right about that. And so and you go find the picture immediately. Julian Eelman. I've one tackling Edelman. Yeah he was, he was. He was at the A C M S. He was at the A C. Yeah, I didn't see him. I saw his head on cardboard. Great great beard. Yeah, those guys are all good looking. It's like the good looking and super athletic, and it sucks that can have

it all. Tom Brady, Gronk Avendola, Julian Edelman. I mean, it's just like and Gronk isn't that good looking, but he's huge and he's really freaking good like he's I don't like it him and get jealous because he's got it all. He's big. But there are a lot of big guys. There are a lot of You still have to have a work etic like crazy to be elite, and all those guys do, and you can be as big as you want. I've seen some monster guys were just big put In and Gronk puts in work. Yeah, man,

he just he does. He does his thing outside of work, but when he's at work, he's a grinder. I can see air Tan. The quarterbacks are mostly good looking guys. Yeah. I don't know why that is. It's probably it's got to be a high school junior high thing. That's amundola. Yeah. Yeah, like that you brought it looks like it was a it was Ady three over there? Is that a gun Dayanne Allen? He's now a Patriot. They just traded into the Patriots. Yeah. This rivalry thing in the NFL is

it raal or no? Yes? For some teams? Why though, because tomorrow you could be on the other team. It's not like hometown teams were like you represent Yeah, but I think it's like division rivals. Like they say, the Patriots for US are arrival and they were when Peyton was.

I would see Peyton and Brady that would be cool because they wanted now we've lost by forty points every time he played well that though, what was arrival because of those two players, Like the best two quarterbacks in NFL are playing right now, yeah, or or you have I mean, you know, traditionally, Kansas City and the Raiders are always a big rival, which because you know, I don't know why, but nobody cares. Yeah, yeah, it's but it's still you know who the Jets and the Giants

because of proximity. Yeah, and then and then the Jets and the Jets and the Patriots and the Bills and stuff. That's the same of it divisional. But still I don't think players were when I grew up. When I grew up, it was four Niners and Cowboys because they were the winning franchises. You know, they were the two teams from the NFC that were winning all this going to the A and they would play in the NFC Championship game

every year. And it was Montana or Young and Jerry Rice versus eight Man with Emmett Smith and you know, Michael Irvin. And but it's not like Alabama versus or whatever. The big it's not Auburn Alabama. But again, because a lot of the kids and it's changing a bit, but a lot of the kids are from the general area of the school. For in college, not all because you'll see some Florida kids, you know, go play at Oregon or but in college. That's why I think the crowds

are a little crazier because these are home. This is home, and these kids are a lot of There are a lot of home kids, and there's a lot of tradition in those in families. All of those kids go to school there because their grandparents went there, dad played there or whatever. And then like so I guess it's not really it's the NFL pumping the rival. It's not really us being like that's what I'm saying, Like, I just think if playing against anybody, yeah, it's like we get

after with Houston quite a bit. That's like our division, right because you're competing for a playoff spot against it. But it's not like circle that one on the calendar because we're playing in Houston, Texans. It's got to be pretty cool though, like circle on the calendar because you're playing somebody awesome though like a pay it's a game like if or or on TV. Yeah, but if it's like you're gonna play the Patriots and you actually get

to play against Tom Brady. That's gotta be cool because how many times in your life you get to play against somebody who has changed sports culture? And playing in Foxboro is like awesome? Who who are the the coolest players that you've seen with your own eyeballs on the field. That's all Ray Lewis, Dude, I was. I played against Ray Lewis in his last NFL game in Baltimore. In Baltimore, it was in the playoffs, and as he just like and I can tell my right little story a minute,

but it is he just loud and yeah, he's an animal. Yeah, and he he's really good at pumping everybody up. I always if I like someone and spent a little time with them, and I don't get close to a lot of people, but if I do get close to someone and they tell me that someone is a good person, I believe them. And so I'm friends with Dion Sanders and we've been friends for a couple of years now, and he loves Ray and it's just like I can't

say enough good things about him. So just because of that, I'm like, Rayless gotta be like, listen, we all have our faults. We're all douche bags and and but he's just like, you know what that dude is Like what

you see is really what you get. Like as far as he likes to help people, like he likes to do good and seeing seeing him come out his his introduction at the last game in Baltimore, I mean they literally had a piece of grass that they would bring out for him to pick up and throw because it was it was to her field, and so literally everyone on the sideline we it was that was a big headline of the week, ray Lewis's last home game, and everyone on our sideline, every coach, executive, owner, dude, we

did not want to miss the ray Lewis introduction. For those that aren't huge sports fans, if you listen to this, imagine our pro wrestler coming out and as he's getting to the ring like doing this big arm gesture was like that's what ray Lewis would do when he would come out, and it was a little dance and was flames and it's like just intense. So you saw ray Lewis and that was cool. Who else would you see in person? And go? May it was? You tell your

kids if you haven't when you have them. I got to play against this person, I mean Peyton for sure, Brady Aaron Rodgers Peyton at Denver. Yeah, and we've we beat him. We're I think we're three and three and two against Denver. Beat him in the playoffs was awesome though, Yeah, Denver, And that was a big one for Luck because that was Luck and Manning. Yeah, and then we went and got destroyed by New England next week. Is it whenever

you go to the playoffs different? Is it flip switch everybody? Oh? Yeah, for sure. It heats up big time. It's it's because the season so long that the entire month of December, if you're not fighting for the playoffs and you kind of already have that already locked in that you can afford to lose a one or two games, you're fine. Yeah,

it's different because guy's rest. They need the rest. But you once January second hits or whatever, the first week of playoffs, it's like everyone's recharged, man, and this is what you play for. And it sucks to lose because you have to start all over again. How good is Andrew Luck? Really good? Because I know how good they tell me he is, and I know how good. I'm a sports fan. I know I see and it. Again,

these are your personnel people. But it doesn't look to me like he has the weapons to be elite because you got to have things around you. Um, and you have coming on that at all. But but you know, coming out of out of college and he you know, Andrew like playing Stanford and was there was the arguments that r G three was as good as him. Only a few people would would say that. But Luck was like that generational quarterback. And that's why they let Peyt main and go. That's a big deal in Indie for

them to come out and go. Okay, I said to Peyton together they came out and then they had a press conference. That doesn't happen. Andrew Luck respected liked. Is he quiet talking? I mean, what's his personality? Just different man, He's he's he's buried to himself. He loves what he does. He was made to be a franchise quarterback and they're just guys that like have it. He has it. Yeah, I mean he's in there, first guy and the last guy out kind of thing. Um. You know, he has

no social media. You don't really know what he does. He's got the flip phone thing that that things are legitimate flip phone from ten years ago. Is that a thing though now? Or is that just really yeah? I mean he hates photos. He just like the only thing he does have his Facebook. That's because he wants to Stanford. It's like, there's all right, he's supporting each other kind of thing. I don't know, it's a he probably a stock in it or something. What's what's the goal for you?

For me, man, I want to win, win a Super Bowl and be respect I think respect from your peers is it's pretty awesome. You did make the Pro Bowl? I did? Yeah, how do you make the Pro Bowl? It's a long snapper? Like, what's the difference. It's it's voted on by coaches, so you get that respect and you know, my coach had to say for me on that um and so it's different. I you know it, I didn't think I deserve to be in the in the Pro Bowl that year. Is there somebody that is like,

that's the best long snapper in the league. It kind of changes from year to year, but there's a core, you know, five to six guys that are just always really really good at a thirty two. You know, and I and I would love to be. I don't think I'm quite there yet in that upper in my opinion, um up in that top three, I want to be. I want to be respected as the best, you know. And I hate it when they say, oh when they when you when you hear the name of the long snapper,

that must be a bad thing. You know, you want to be the guy unto the radar. You want to You don't want your name in the headlines and you don't want to you know, fans to know your name, Like, no, screw that. I want to be known for being really good at what I do and making tackles and that's how. But just being like yeah, but being a great teammate and like being respected because when I came in first, like guys would haggle me all the time, like like, oh,

what do you do at practice? You don't do ship? You know, you don't what do you know? What we do? Man? We work or maybe we're not with the team all the time. We're doing our own thing all the time with our own coach, doing individual stuff. But it's one of those things like no one wants our job. On Sunday but they want our job, you know, Monday through Saturday.

You know what I'm saying. And uh, I just think it's it's awesome being with Vinitary, right because everyone in the NFL respects him because he's every fan respect respects him, even not a sports fan. Adam Minitary is known, I would say most super kicking the field goal in the snow. He's made some he's made. He's the clutch kicker in the league right now, like he's the clutch Hall of Famer,

is the best to ever do it. And guys swap jerseys with him a games, Yeah, like quarterbacks, receivers, like big time names, so they must do that. Then not in the middle of the field. Occasionally you'll see that, but in soccer they do that a lot. They'll go out and twitch jerseys so they you guys are jersey switching like outside of games. Yeah, but you have to be like a ball or the switcher jersey. Do you

ever ask him for autograph? Who any player? It was weird at the Pro Bowl because I had my family did I treated the Pro Bowl like it was my time, right. I brought my family best friends out there and rightfully so, like this was an awesome opportunity, huge achievement and Hawaii. And I'm like, dude from Western Washington, undrafted cut I dude, I had to bring everybody that was there for me. This is it, you know. And we partied hard the entire week, and it is it is a party. You

kind of forget why you're there. And obviously you're you're at an exclusive resort. You're on the beach all day and uh. And then I have my grandmother and God bless her soul man. She she's like the super fan. She was one of my jersey probably a little too much in the lobby, running around and introducing herself to all the families, right, And she's the one that asked for autographs. Even my my mom does too. And they had my mom and her best friend were there and

they were they had rooms. As to how we long? How long by the way Raiders defensive? Great? Yes, And we're from the Bay Area, so everyone loves long and on TV not to peopleouldn't good looking family and his his son was in the Pro Bowl and Kyle and so of course they're they're fan girling the whole week. They're you know, like whenever they hear the door open next door, they run out there to see who's there. And you know, by the end of the week they bugged me so much that I had to introduce them,

get the autographs, to get the photo. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's cool, but I hate asking, you know what I'm saying because I I don't like asking artists. I don't have artists signed things, yeah, because I'm always like, man, I want them to come around me and just feel like they're normal people. And so unless it's for a charity, I don't get things signed. I used to, but now it's just like I don't want them to feel like I'm like trying to get something from them, for sure.

So I hate asking because obviously I get asked for andrew Lux stuff all the time. Oh you know, a little bit to say. I'm like, hey, can you give me about into something, And I'm always like I don't. And some of these people, even with you, some of these are like buds of mine, and you don't want to go to your buddy and be like, hey, Paisley, let me get just just give me a little sign. You signed this for me real quick right here. It's a it's a weird slow it's like, I mean, listen,

don't get wrong, it's awesome. We're in a very bus place, no, no doubt about it. So what I do now to get autographs is I'll put a ball out on the table. A lot of guys do this now, so we have a table in the locker room and it simply just says, hey, you know, sign it. This is for what it's for, who it's for, So be like Matt Overton, this is for a charity. And guys are cool and everyone will sign it. But going up, hey, man, do you mind? He and my cousin from you know, Arkansas, he really

wants your autograph, Like, I hate that. It's awful. Even though he'll do it, you wouldn't care. It's just an awkward You're right, they wouldn't care. Is that? But it just I don't know what. I don't know one artist that would be like I care. They would all be like, I don't care. I'll sign whatever you want. There are some guys that I've seen, though, that do care. I want to ask you who, because I don't put you

in a bad place. But I'm trying to think of all there's one or one artist in particular who has a terrible reputation being really horrible to their fans, like really really horrible, like you go out together. I don't either. I think it's just I just feel like it's a personality issue or something, or they really just think they're that much better than somebody. I don't know. I don't

get it. I don't get it either. And it's and you know what, here's my role too, about when artists come in, you have a bad interview and you're not gonna get along the first time. It could have been me. It could have been that you're having a bad day. It doesn't mean that overall that there's something broken between us. Because I did not like Jason Aldan the first time. I bet him. I was like, this dude that will never get along, We will never be even buddies at all.

Completely wrong, And it's aldi not I have done actually played shows together. I mean this, I opened for him. Um, he's done any chairity, We've done a lot of Now what are we going to just hang out every weekend? No? But that crazy disconnect that was there at first, because we're pretty different people. Just I was completely wrong about him. Brantley, sweet guy, you look at him and you would go in a way. I've met him, he's great, great, and

but it's some people you don't expect. Sometimes they are just like total douche bags and you're like why, but more than once, if it's once, it's a Christian aguilar role. She's awful. She's always been awful, every time matters has been terrible. Just she's so if you're Christian Aguilary, I got no, you're just bad if you're not Christiana Aguilarity yet and I've had a couple of bad experiences. It just could be me. It could be me, it could be you, it could be somebody had a bad day.

My weirdest thing is sometimes people will say because I'm I don't have a lot to say, when I'm not saying things like I'm not the guy that's gonna go somewhere and just be like look at me. I've got amazing stories to tell. I need attention. I'm gonna stay home first of all, and then when I do go, I'm a wall flower and I just don't feel comfortable in my own skin around people. So I don't know what what was my point with this, Mike? What was I going? I had good story. I don't know what

it was. Do you remember. I don't even I was getting tech. I'm getting blown up for some reason. Um whatever. My point is, go America, you rule, man. I feel like, as I'm good to say too, I'm getting older. Man. I forget, I'll forget trains. I'll walk to the kitchen. Sometimes I'm like, why am I even here? I do the same thing, and I'm like, dude, ct no, because I don't have my head hitting in the same way. But I can. I'll walk down and I'll be in

the living room. I don't even walk in my living room, like, I don't even I don't watch TV. I'd never go my living stand in my bedroom. You got a living room, And I'm like, no, I'm supposed to come here for something. I do it quite a bit. Why am I here? M Then I go upstairs, lay down, go to bed, wake up. Oh that's what it was. And then I go back down and get it. Dude, I've done. Oh. I know my point was, point, go ahead, I'll go somewhere. I don't have a lot, I'm not outgoing, and someone

to go. Man. Bobby was a total douche. He didn't talk to anybody, he's such a dick, And I don't like that, And I bet that's what keeps me from going out, because it's just I don't want to bother people. But people have this perception to me. In the same way, I probably unfairly judge people on the first or second experience too, So that's why I try not to do that. Now when you become Christina Aguilera, and if we've had

a bunch, then it's a whole different thing. Are you Are you saying that you're like shy, a little bit shy. I feel like I bother people. I don't want to get into people's space. I don't want to bother them. I don't. I don't feel like anybody wants to have anything. It's a weird thing. I don't feel like anybody really cares or once they have their own lives and their own conversations, I have nothing to add but doing that. And if people are like, oh, that's Bobby from the radio.

He has a lot to say, he's sometimes, he's funny sometimes, but I do none of that out in public. They're like, oh, he just must be a huge douchebag and a life. And part of that it's true, but I mean it's mostly just because I don't but I try not to judge people the same way on that and without dealing with Brantley, I totally was like, oh, we'll never get along. And I learned from that, and I'm like, I trying

to judt people off that first hit now. And then the thing that I struggle with too, is like, it's so easy to judge that it's human nature that you know and so hopefully you get the second opportunity to get to know that person because and sometimes a third or fourth And it's taking me that long with some people, and I'm sure with me it's been the same way.

I'm not listen, I'm no saint, and I when I go to work, like it's what they were calling it, they call a Bobby Beast mode because I got nothing but focused, like we're here to do the show. Let's go like I need this club. I gotta go here, go here, you here. I don't go to the bathroom. It's just it is what it is. I'm not I'm no pleasure to be around when I go to work. I take that back. When we're in the middle of segments, I'm fine because we gotta be fun, then, would you agree?

Mike agree? Commercials? I'm talking nobody I got, I'm looking at here's what's coming up? What clock do we gotta hit here? Ray? I need this audio, Morgan, I need You're in that little glass room. I'm just constantly barking orders and people and I'm like, hey, I have forty seconds. Give me this Randy, this song on Randy. And I know they're all like going, God, I'm shut up. But whatever,

you know, it is, it is what it is. And they call you horrible names, that's okay, and they should and they for sure should because I am a horrible person during the show. I like watching what they call them. Dude, that was a terrible call it They had nothing to say. Then it goes back somebody answering the phones, and the phone. I look at all the phones. I'm like, let somebody answering the phones. But you know it never lasts longer

than ten seconds, Yeah, because it can't. It's the interception rule. Yeah, you gotta move on. You gotta move on. I forget. And so like today, for example, Morgan and I who now runs the show. And it's weird for Morgan because she's twenty four. Yeah, it's weird for her because she's the youngest on the show, and other than me, she's got the highest spot on the show as far as making to sit. Amy is the second ranker. Let's not get it twisted like Amy is the star. Didn't you

have lunch box? And then everybody else kind of falls in place. But like the hierarchy of the show, the quarterback to the running back on, so it's me because I'm planning and running, and then there's Amy's a very close second, and there's lunch boxes are very close third. But Morgan is telling us all what to do, and I need someone to do that, and I put her in that position like tell me what to do. And so today she had an issue with me, what did you see it? Were you there for it? Mike? You

were there? And we had to talk after because she got she got emotional at me in front of everyone, and she's she's I think Morgan is really strong. She's gonna be fantastic. She's already really good. And so it was like, let's just go talk about in the office. So in the office and be like, hey, listen, no emotion with leadership. Your emotion. You bring it in here, let's talk about it in here. She got mad at

me for something I did, and she was right. Mostly she was right, and I was like, you know what, you're right, But you're also judged by how you're seeing. Even if you're not perceived the right way, people are gonna judge you even if they're but they see it is how they feel and they don't know what they're saying. People don't know what they're seing. I don't know what I've seen Without Dean. I was just like, listen, dude, he's so he has nothing to say. You don't want

to talk to me. I don't like him, you know what I think? The shy guy, he's like, he's a really shiny guy who I I was like many it's actually about the third time. I was like, just a nice guy. So Mike, just see more. Goan and I get into it at I don't hold beef with my people. It's we went into the office and it's not even non personal, like these are my people. These are the closest and worked together for five six hours a day every day at arms distance. You're going to add Amy

yelled at me. We go into the moms. Sometimes Amy just screams at me. We've talked about that before, like on the show, she just she gets so upset at me because I don't have the mode. I don't. I'm not a human. When it's work time, it's work time, all right. I gotta show do, I gotta show do. Focus up. Let's go after the show best friends, before the show, wonderful friends. But when it's bemo Bobby, like I got with me, I have salaries that I have

to make sure people get paid and eat. So I feel like the pressures on me to make sure we have a great show because everybody else get the people are depending on me. Thank you for this therapy sessions, and they're lucky to have a leader I love. But these are the people that in my life that they're just I would haven't any other way. I got to pan pick every single person on my show because we had no money. We were not supposed to be a show.

So launch process. The delivery driver Jason's deli, I was like, dude, come work. And we've talked to us on the Bobby cast before. It's like he made no money and I'm like, just working. I'll promise you I'll take care of if you just hang out and work through it, we'll get there. We'll get there. It's like you going to Duco. It's like you're playing in the UFL. Like put in the time and put in the work and just trust the good things are gonna have fun because most of the

time they do. They do if you work hard and you work long enough, most of the time they do. You want to play the odds, work hard, work long. Yeah, I always tell young kids like hard work will always pay off. It may not be what you initially want it to be, but dude, doors will open and great things will happen and people will trust you. And you don't always have to be the best. Just be someone

that being accountable man. Accountability is so hard to find, and knowing that you can count on and depend on that person no matter what makes sup for Eddie, I said, Eddie comes in life like dude. You have you ever been there in a home sending day? No? I haven't. Is it awesome? I don't like it. I don't like it. You're publicly shaming him. No, No, I've done it before. I know it's it's a public shame thing. No, I wouldn't,

but I don't do it for the public shaming. But our shows, our lives are on the air, so no, no, it's life. We live our lives on our lives on the air. When Eddie comes in late and I've sent lunchbox home, I've sent Amy home. I mean, I've sent the all Amy is the all Star, I've sent her home. Like Amy, I can't have you the person everyone loves and looks at as a leader, and not treat you the same as everybody else. So so she walked in

late and you kicked her. You She called me, and I was like, don't even come in because if she was like seven minutes late. But here's my thing about time. First of all, I'm always on time. Secondly, if you're supposed to be there at four thirty, okay, let's say, and that's the last minute. And this is how Eddie

and I philosophy are so different. And this is why we get along so great, because Eddie and I were together seven days a week for a lot of the year and we get along so great because he's he's a Eddie just hang out guy, like loves life. And I'm telling you the greatest, like you don't get to be a better person than Eddie, Like you don't. I mean, he's the best man. He pisses me off sometimes though, God because he is so tight be like he loves live. Just let it come, let the waves come crashing it.

I'm gonna sit here and watch him, not me. I gotta or and I'm not attacking those suckers. Boo boo. And so I'm like, Eddie, you need to be here at thirty after because I'm still the boss and it's a weird position to be in. I gotta be here at thirty after. And to Eddie that means get there at that's what it means to him. To Amy, it means get there five after and be twenty five minutes early. Get there. To Eddie, it means get start fifty nine fifty nine. And it made it at me's so weird.

You're you're the old coach. It's like you're late. If you're on time, No, if you're on time, you're on time. And I'm good with it. Just you better be freaking on time because I'm ready to roll. One minute late is late for yeah, and I've sent people home for being one minute late. And but again, I expect nothing of anyone else that I don't expect for myself times five. But and it's it's weird, you've got to I never let anybody be a part of the show. It's not

part of the show. And I remember you're coming to me like, hey, I want to learn stuff. I was like, it's gonna suck because you have to sit around watch watch. He's just gonna watch and it's gonna stuck, and you're gonna just sit and watch it. You'll slowly and I'll trust you a little bit more. I don't trust anybody ever. And so and now what's funny is you're now starting to be kind of part of the show, and now

you gotta go. My thing was like I reached out to you, and I always like a little hesitant to do so. But I knew nobody in Nashville, and I had met you maybe twice or something before, and I had seen it was in Haiti with Amy, so I kind of felt like a little comfortable to asking. And I know Gorman in the building. Right, But I don't want to do anything sports related. Right. I'm over it.

I'm not over my job. I'm just over talking about it, right, and of course I have a passion for like country music. That's like my happy place, and I love radio, and I wanted to learn from the best, right, so I put myself out there. I'm like, dude, I'm looking for some kind of internship. I was gonna I applied for CMT, but that's like super corporate, Like, yeah, there's a lot you're illegal with us. You're illegal, and that's what I told you, you're illegal. I can't take you as an intern.

Just come sitting, no title, and so yeah, and my have you ever let anybody ever do this except for Ray No, I mean I kind of did it illegally. I guess most of my people end up staying. So I guess you'll have a job when you want to come back around. But you sit in the room and you get to watch all the producers and and now you're on the year. People like you on the year, and you come in and do bits. It's just funny.

Now that's almost happy to go back and like right when you're just getting in the groove of like you're not sending in material and I'm using it. Sometimes it's been first and foremanst. I gotta say thank you for just giving me the opportunity, and even like even if it was just helping me find something in town, but actually you'd be like, yeah, dudes, come in and like we'll see what happens. And that's what's pretty much what you said, Like there's no title, there's no itinerary for

this thing. Let's just see what happens. And getting up early in the morning sucks, but I mean I'm a morning guy already, but um yeah, I mean it was just interesting sitting there for you know, several weeks and just watching Mike and watching you know, and I don't The thing is that I'm not hands on with these guys. It's not like I'm learning how to do what they do. I'm just like looking over the show, like, oh that's kind of cool. Oh raise, He's back and forth like

six times in five minutes. And you know, I Morgen and I mean I ask her more questions, you know, But it's it, it's I've learned a lot. I write stuff down and I listened to you guys, and and what kind of bits you come up with and how you keep listeners engaged and how you keep it fun and relaxed and like, but just dialed in though you know what I'm saying, and like, it's been awesome, man,

it's been it really does. I felt bad for you because I knew I was gonna make you set for a while because people always say they want to do it and they never actually do it. And I told you that too. I was like later on, I was like, Okay, this is kind of a test, just to see if you really wanted to be here. And you're always walking to come back now, but now people are gonna be sad you're leaving because you've kind of become part of

the show. But it's been fun. It's been fun for me, it's been great, and I've the things that I've learned about what you guys do in your profession is that like I go home, like, dude, I should have like said them the different or like you know what I'm saying, like, and I'm sure you've done that every day. Every segment you're like, oh, man, I should have missed that, or I shouldn't have said this, or I should have rewarded whatever.

And that's what I am like, dangn that you gotta you gotta be on point, you know what I'm saying. And you gotta keep it simple, and you just gotta you gotta be you two and you just gotta go with this. Yeah, you really do. There are no scripts. Nobody on the show even knows what we're gonna talk about except for me. I don't pass the sheet that goes here is the agenda, because I want everybody to be as real as possible and so that people don't

even know when their segments. If they send anything, I want to talk about it in a week or a month or tomorrow, right, Mike. Sometimes I'll break this up and they'd be like, I told you about that seven weeks ago, and I'm like, yeah, I've been in my head. I've been storing it for the exact right time. Right now is the time, and so I'll throw it on them. But it's been good. That's been just cool. I'm glad you can't got to come to the house and hang out. No,

it's cool, man. And then, like I said, it's just, uh. The thing that I gravitated most, I think initially with your show is the fact that you use your platform in a positive way. And I told Amy this the other day on her podcast that she's doing it's like you have to use your platform to to serve and to get back. And you and you guys make it fun. You you you spread positivity. You know. To me, I'm and if I were to die tomorrow and one year, nobody would care as far as really, no, we're just

we we feel so self important because we're us. I'm me, and since I'm me, I care about me. And if I me disappear other people's they're their own means and they have their own means to worry about. And so I I die tomorrow in a year, nobody's really gonna care. But if you can affect the lives, that affect lives, that's where it lasts. It's just and not even my

legacy because I don't care. You know what, when I'm dead, I don't care because I'm not gonna be around to be like, I wonder how would be talked about I'm dead. I don't care. But if I can do something that makes somebody else do something that make somebody else do something,

then I'm like, that's a win for sure. That I mean that the ripple effect is incredible, and you have so much The reach that you have is incredible, right, It's it's large and it's awesome because not a lot of people do that, and so that's what initially I'm like, dude, these guys are cool, they're keeping it real. They're just normal folks, but they're doing like awesome off to help peoples. We screwed out, but we try to know. But for the most part, you guys are knocking it out of

the ballpark. You know what I'm saying. And the reason why, you know, I like I said the pimp and joy thing, that's kind of how I heard about you initially, because it's just it's spread like wildfire. We'll run out of time here, but cut your music wise, who are your buddies? If you were to like text somebody, who do you? Who do you text? Because I'm Chase Rice is a good buddy of mine and the football thing. He played for coach Bugano at North Carolina. That's kind of how

we connected. Um, we become real good friends. But he asked me to come on come on the road with him for a couple of days, and I might. I might do it the next three days and just kind of experienced that whole thing. I really don't want to, I really don't want to, but I know, I'd kick myself for not doing it. Yeah, with him that and w Plus he's ending, He's ending in Indie that Saturday. So I'm like, yeah, well all right, let's make it happen.

So I'm leaving tonight at midnight with Chase. But Chase and Dustin lynch Um and William Mike and Morgan has been a good buddy of mine. Um and a lot of a lot of guys coming up. It's cool because it's a grind, just like sports is for me. And that's where I gravitate. I've noticed that artists gravitate to athletes, and athletes gravitate the artist. There's a lot of parallels there,

you know. And it's cool supporting each other man, seeing guys, seeing guys play at eight seconds saloons in in Indianapolis, uh to you know, being featured as the headline or at CMA Fest, right, maybe you know what I'm saying. It's awesome, dude, And so those guys are my boys. I'd say Chase is probably my closest buddy, and um, you know his videographers from Indie and and all that kind of stuff. Low Cash, you know, Yeah, awesome guys.

But pressings from Indie, you know, so we have that connection man, and and um yeah, I mean there's a lot of I've met so many great guys, and I think just we just kind of brow out, you know. For the most part. People are really good around here. Yeah, jump parties in that one because we're from the same place in California. John like John party a lot, man, you know, like his album has been hit and he's been a grinder years and years of just sitting and fighting.

And it's not again, It's just about working and let's see when it finally works for you. It's not again, you're just playing the odds. Let's not see if let's see when it works. If it's physically possible, you can work to do it. You're not gonna be five ft one and have no look a billion duncan basketball. But if it's physically possible and you can work to achieve it, I believe it can be done. And that's what I'm gonna do with my boys. I'm gonna get a seeing

coach back in Indie. I'm gonna work on my my singing talent. Listen you start singing on the air, and I was like, I expect you to be really bad and tried to sing it. I was like, it really isn't terrible. Not take it? Oh, I goes, But to come back, I'll do I'll do a song and that will be much better because I'm gonna have a coach to prove your point. You're gonna get a singing coach. Why not? Yeah, but that's physically impossible. I'm just saying

that's opposite what I was saying. I think it's impossible for you to become a great singer. I'm not trying to be great. Yeah, I'm trying to be just above average. All right, Matt Overton, good question. Should I go on the road, Chase, I'm really honestly, I like, let let me say this. I'm gonna says, honesty, you're a single guy. If you're gonna go on with anybody going going the road? Chase? All right, As you're a single dude. If you want

to house some good it's a good experience. You want story, Yes, if you want stories and you want to go single, brow it out and do that. Chases the guy to go with. And we was, you know, well of late there alright, And I like Chase. I like jays so, but chances, you know, Chase wants to get my outland of the story. Chase comes down reach his pocket, like what is this and he pulls out this girl's number. Right, He's like, remember this girl and he puts on the

table whatever. So I take and I text her and I'm like, hey, who's this? She doesn't know who I am. I don't you know whatever, And she thought it was Chase. And she texted me for like three months like hey, is this Chase? And I kept going Nope, that's all I would say back. But that that's a good one. You might go out. All right, We're gonna go. There's been a good talk because I have no idea how long we've been talking about. It's a long on my iron half. This is a rare. We never make it

this long. That means it's good, cool man. Sometimes it hurts about twenty minutes in and we're like, oh boy, this is a good one. All right, Matt Overton, good luck, appreciate, should have a good season. Thank you very much. You're gonna be for a couple more weeks on the show. From now, well next week, all next week, watch last week? Huh all right? Episode forty nine over, the big episode fifty is the next? Who's coming in next? Mike? Do we know we have lu Luclair probably the most prominent

songwriter in all of Nashville. Like, it's arguable Luke Laird. Luke Laird has written everything, so I need to write that name down. Has written everything. I'm learning here. I don't know any of this stuff him, Shane mcinally Hillary lindsay, these are the big Luke Laird probably what's his number one hit? Oh? They're all I mean, you have so many number one in the country, now, did it? I don't know everything. You look at his lesson and be

like he all of that. I learned the story of the guy, the guy losers that sold off friends and low places, the real story. It's a great story. There's there's a lot of great stories around this town. A lot of dirty stories too. All Right, we're gonna go. Forty night is over, mad Overton. We'll see you next time.