Episode 36 - Walker Hayes (2-13-17)

We'll be like, tell me your deepest fear a stuff like, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we just talked. Yeah, we're just talked. But we're always like getting ready for stuff too, because you always got to want to play. Um. So here's the the whole. What we'll do is we're kind of encapsulate you and then we'll just work back. So right now, you just signed a record deal to Monument Records. What

does that mean? Uh? My goodness. Uh. I mean it means I have another chance and having a career, you know, as an artist, and and that being my full time job. I mean, that's what it means to me. It might sound simple, but that's exactly what it means. It means I have a career, a chance at a career, a long lasting career. Again, yes again, another shot for sure. So you talk about other shots and and just quickly here because then I want to go all the way

back through it. But you've been on labeled before. Yeah, this is my third record deal. I've been in Nashville twelve years and I will signed A Mercury got dropped. I was signed a Capital got dropped, and uh, you know, I didn't think I was gonna get another chance because you don't really get that many um here. Most people don't get to and so this is my third. The thing about Walker too is that I we didn't know

each other and I we first moved here. It was when my co host, Amy's mom was sick and I got the song and say, hey, he's got any Walker. Here's what the song called Joy like Judy and so we and I heard the songs, so we'd be choosing to us to make up a boy. Namy's mom was fighting cancer and we were doing a fundraiser and it wasn't for her mom. It was just we were, you know,

doing a pimp and joy thing. That's how we met, and so he came and the song actually was downloaded a bunch of times, you know that kind of thing happened, and then I didn't see it for a bit, and see, I don't see anybody. First of all, I didn't see it for a bit. And then I'm on YouTube and I do the thing on YouTuber. I find an artist

and it'll go also recommended, also recommended, also recommended. And so until I find music and artists and I'll go to SoundCloud, I'll do whatever, and I'm going through and I see this song right here, and I was like, that's Walker Age. I was like, you know, that's a joy like dude together shaking, and I was like, I don't know what this is, but it sounds like nothing else. I remember thinking that was like, it sounds like nothing else.

Even that, so I played it on the regular the next morning and I was like, I was like this, you just hear something that it strikes you oddly. And then from there I just started to play all your stuff on the air because I sit there and I'll be like, oh, you think that's good. You got to hear this one. I was like, my favorite song is a comedian is too bad being fun. So all these songs, as I would hear them, I would be like, this

is unlike anything I'm hearing right now. I'm period. And I would talk to my friends like Dan Smarting from Dan and Shay, Him and I talk about music a lot, and I was like this, Walker, hey, stuff is like next level, like cerebral type stuff. And I don't even think anybody even notices it right now. And he's like, well, you know, we talked about it. Then you ended up going on tour with them. Now you're on tour with me, and it's like, that's where we are right now. So

that's where that's where you are. That's what we're gonna come back to. But now I want to go back to the very beginning. So you talk about you came to Nashville. You came to Nashville. How old were you when you came to Nashville was twenty let's see seven? Four? You go to school and study music. I went to college and I did eventually change my major to piano. I graduated with a degree in music with an emphasis on piano. You're a good piano player, are you? Are

you a piano player? Yeah? I sit down at the piano and people be like, oh, that guy could play piano. I could, Um, you know I could. I could play with the songs, my songs, you know, I could play for myself. I had to do a lot of classical stuff, you know, obviously to graduate. But when I moved to Nashville, are you standing backing a little bit? Like like a golfer would be like, I'm not that good and he go, no, No,

I mean honestly, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really play piano until college and I met you know, A met a professor and I said, can I finish this on time? So I got pretty proficient, you know, while I was in college. It's a lot of muscle memory and a lot of cool stuff I learned. But now I could just cord around kind of like I'm as good at piano as I am a guitar. So songs you knew the guitar then too, the right, Yeah, well

you musical through like elementary school, high school. You're growing up. My wife and I we actually met in a in a school play, you know, So I did that kind of stuff school theater and singing choirs and things like that. Music really, um, my dad was a music minister before he started selling real estate in Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama, and so uh yeah, I mean he kind of gave me that music bug. I didn't really chase it as like a dream, you know, a job or anything like that.

Then definitely didn't even do that. Out of college. I went to kind of go work for him. So when you finished schoo well you have to work for your dad, was yeah. So I finished school, got my real estate license, and I got engaged to Lanny. You know, we've been dating on and off for a bazillion years. And uh, that was my plan. That was my answer to her her dad, you know, what are you gonna do? And it was worked for my dad. And uh, my dad

encouraged me to go play at a bar. It's called Mobile Yacht Club off at Dolphin Island Parkway in Mobile, and he kept encouraging me to do that. He thought it was funny and kind of how I would mimic people. I knew like a couple of songs on the guitar and would play around at the house. And he wanted me to do it, and I didn't want to do because I had stage fright that scared me to death, you know, getting up in front of people and singing.

And uh, finally I said, Dad, I'll do this if you'll leave me alone you know about it, and stop asking me to do it. And I went up there on a Friday night, sang some songs and pretty much changed changed my mind about life. So you went and you performed. You were like, all right, what I want to do it? I mean crazy whim called Laney, So we're moving. Then I had to tell her parents really and m they weren't. We weren't too excited. I wouldn't

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played at such a great time called Laney. So I don't want to move to Nashville to sing that was it. I want to go. Uh. You know, I think she was pretty adventurous. You know at the time we were kids excited about you know, getting out of town. Um, she was with it. I mean, oddly enough, she there was no second guessing on her part. She was ready to go. And so what what was your style back then? So my style back then? I remember two songs that I played. One was sitting on the dock of the

bay and then uh didn't doubIe Gray Drift Away. Yeah, drift and I guess Drift Away And uh, I only played like five songs. I just played him over and over and um so yeah, I mean I was just gonna him up and singing. You know, moved to Nashville trying to be a rock star. Do you think you're gonna make it? Yeah? I did. I was dumb enough to to be like, yeah, I'm gonna go you know and figure this out, be famous. I mean I knew nobody. We had a great time picking out our apartment, um

and stuff like that. Honestly, meeting with their parents, they were really frightened and just thought I was nuts. You know, this was not This was on such a whim and the security that I had, you know, in Mobile made a lot more sense to them. And um so yeah, I mean, man, we just found an apartment, got married, and drove up here. So you move here? And what does one do when you don't know anybody in a town like Nashville and you want to make music? Like,

what's the first step? You go outside? And man, I mean, as cliche as it sounds, the absolute first thing I did was go sign up for an open mic night at the Bluebird. Uh. I was. I don't remember exactly what number I chose, you know, to get selected that night. But so you played the first night you went. I came on a Monday night, stood in line, got selected.

Uh they they were about to call my name, but I realized that everybody in there was playing songs that they had written, and I showed up to play cover. So we left and then I came back the next Monday with a couple of songs that I wrote that week and then performed. And it was the same rush. You know. So the first time you went, you end up not playing. Well, I check it out. I wasn't about to get up and play that. I was gonna play drift Away. There's a little everybody give me the

beat boy? Free up? Did you write that little something? I wrote? So the first time, you don't do it. The second time you're going, you do what you play? What song you remember? I do? I remember I played a song about as short of a time period as

we have been married. I learned very quickly that when you bring up the in laws that your significant other gets really pissed, and so I wrote a song about that, and it was kind of a joke, you know, a funny song and uh, I'm under the title of it, and I played too, and I just remember the crowd reacting. You know, they laughed, they had a great time. I mean, they went nuts. It's a real supportive crowd at the blue Bergs. They're there to hear the writer performing their songs,

so they went nuts. I mean, it wasn't not I didn't like get a deal or anything quick. You know, did you feel like after that night though, that you had submitted a little more in your head, like I can do this. Uh? I didn't really think about whether I could or not. I just did, you know what I'm saying. And I also it was like a drug. I mean I honestly, but since then, I haven't stopped

writing songs. It's just I fell in love with that, that conceiving the idea, putting it together, playing it for somebody, getting their reaction, moving on to the next one. You know, my favorite song is always the one I'm working on right now, And that's kind of how I've been since then. It just it pretty much consumes my life and has since then. So how long until you get and I'm assuming you're getting in a publishing deal first, which is what happened to get They pay you to write songs?

How long did it take from you playing that bluebird until you getting a published and deal? So I had a I had a day job. I booked motivational speakers at Premier Speakers Bureau, uh in Franklin. Like what motivational speakers ran through in Franklin. A lot of right wing conservatives, old Steelers player Rocky Blyer, a couple of authors, um, Oliver North there, Sean Hannity. We booked them. Uh some of those were exclusive. Um sorry again, trying to get

rid of that tick. But yeah, just I booked them and uh lost, actually lost my job in a year, and then I got a pub deal. So it took me a year and a couple of months to secure a pub deal. So in that year, you're just writing and singing songs to people are going, hey, check it out. I know in that year I was working, you know that was none, none to five. My clientele was West Coast event planners, so I got to show up a

little bit later and stay a little longer. But I was writing songs while I was working, you know, on my computer, just loading it up and yeah, I mean playing open mic nights anybody could I could ever get my songs in front of Obviously I was trying to do that playing all the local um you know songwriter nights that I could and um yeah, I wasn't really comparing myself to other people. I just loved, like I said, I loved, loved, loved writing, I mean obsessed with writing.

So you're right, and you start to get paid to write, and what did you What were your first cut? Shoot? Man, I mean my my first pub deal actually got me a record deal first. I mean I didn't get a cut. So your pub deal got your record deal first? Is this the Keith Urban Demo story? No, that's that's capital. That's the second deal. The first pub deal I ever got was from a neighbor heard me messing around on the porch. He said, man, I really like what you do.

I'm gonna take you into douce you to two or three people. He brought me into town. I met two big time producers where Franklin and Franklin. Here's your playing on your porch, here's me on the porch. Yeah. He's like, dude, I really love your voice. Did you did you write that? I'm like, yeah, you want to hear some more. And though I wrote a song about his kid and whose name is Hogan, which that was a business move right there. I was like, dude, if I write song by his

kids and really, you know, hog me up. So he takes me into town, introduced me to to introduced me to Scott Hendricks, David Malloy and a guy named Christie de Napoli, and uh, Christie wanted to sign me to a pub deal. The other two wanted to maybe cut some sides and do the shoppy thingy and I wasn't really ready for that. I just wanted to write, you know, really bad. I wanted to get paid to write songs. Uh. And at that time I only had one kid, so

I didn't have to make that much money. Um. And so anyway, Christie sigh me under a guy named Buddy Killing who's gone now but great first publisher to have learned a lot from that guy. And Alison Jones. I know this is industry, but signed me at Mercury and so you get a publishing deal and a record deal basically at the same time. Well, I got a pub deal and then we we worked on it, you know, and he had cut some sides there and then they shot me and then got me, got me my first

record development deal. So when you get signed to a development deal, what do they start doing with you? What do they develop? So the development deal basically got me James Stroud, great producer. He cut some sides on me. So what we did is just accumulate songs, kept writing for a little while, Uh, chose the best ones, went in the studio, caught him with an excellent band. So that was my first experience with that, you know, And of course we came home with five songs. I thought

I was gonna be Garth Brooks. I sounded like him. It sounded better than NA. I was not Garth Brooks. I I had some great stuff, you know, looking back, I think some of those sides were good. But uh, there was a falling out within the company and it wasn't long until I was off that that labeled me. That that deal expired pretty quick. So you're on, did you put a record on? I didn't. I cut five sides,

literally celebrated the cutting my first five songs. You cut five songs, I'm going I were beside myself and stuff sounds so great. Uh. We finished those in a December. I got a call in January saying that, uh, James Stroud was gone from the label and that they he had parted with co you know, head People, and Alison Jones was leaving and I wasn't. I wasn't on the label anymore. But the label stayed, label stayed. Yeah, you remember put out a single? Iver put out a single?

Did you tell the publishing deal? You're still writing, still writing, and I still still still trying to get outside cuts. But did not get outside cuts? So you have to go to another try to get how long until you get signed to a different label. So after that it took me to two years to get another label. This when Urban, here's your This is when Autumn House, a

friend of mine, pitched the song for Keith Urban. Keith Urban did not take the song, but the A and R rep at Capital Autumn House said, I like this guy singing, I like this writing style. You know who is this kid? And uh, they said it's Walker Hayes, you know, And within a couple of months I had a deal with Capital. A lot of my deals came pretty quick. You know, deals are hard to get, but my first two just kind of fell into my lap. I mean if they just kind of came out of

nowhere for me. So you get a deal, you sort of cut songs again or to use your old songs. Oh. Man, when I got deal at Capital, I was writing. You go through the producer search. You know, I was on Capitol two years probably before we even decided, you know, to try a single. You've been signing for two years before you put a song out. Yeah, yeah, I think have been a Capital around that time. The frustrating Yeah, it was, yeah, it was. I mean we were looking

for the right producer. We tried some, we cut some. They just didn't didn't lower our minds, you know. So then you have your first song. What's your first single? My first single was pants all right? She can but she can't run the shoes, she can't crack a will like Indiana John, she can't snap, I can't take home like that. I like that. Look you're giving me body you write that I did. I wrote it for my wife.

Gives the colders, makes the plans that woman's with. When you hear the song, now, what do you think why? I don't know, man, you know, I just hear it and uh, it's doesn't sound you know it doesn't sound that great. I just don't. I don't hear it like I did then. And when when I heard it then, I just yeah, I just thought this is gonna be amazing, and um, I don't know, I just hear it now and it just the maybe I've gotten better at writing, you know, and I can just see the holes in there.

But yeah, I created just like hearing myself on a answering machine. Thanks. So how the single? Do? I have no idea? The song was added heavily, you know, right off the bat, and uh, you know, I saw success coming my way quick and uh then it just hit a wall and uh, some people were slow to pick it up, and it went to thirty eight and uh eventually, um, you know, Mike Dungan and Capital pulled it and they decided to go with another one shortly after that. What

song was? After that one? They went with a song called wild Wait for Summer and it did not do. Um as well those pants. If you have two singles that didn't work, did they drop you or do they go, We're gonna work out some other stuff. So we we chilled out for a long time. You know, I got put on the back Burner and uh, I sat for a long long time and man, honestly, just to give Capital some credit, I mean they believed, I mean they

believed hardcore and and they stuck their neck out for me. Um, I didn't fully understand, you know, the need for the machine. I didn't know how the bids really worked, you know at that time. You know, there was a little bit of arrogance. I'm not the most coachable human being on the planet, and that kind of you know, shot me in the foot back then. But yeah, we sat for a long time. I continue to just right and write

and try to give them that one. You know that they felt confident, you know, if you're gonna go three deep, that third one, I mean that's your hail Mary right there, you know, especially if the first two have flopped. Um. So I fought and fought, you know, to write and and to get that that song, the one, and man just couldn't find it, and you know, eventually got dropped. And uh yeah, I mean that was that was the beginning of some dark some dark times right there. So

you get dropped. Ever your second label, what year was that, you know, Let's see, it's two thouns seventies six probably fourteen, begetting fourteen. So you get dropped in two thousand and fourteen, So what do you do well at that period? I think I have four kids, so I'm still not I'm still not a truly buried in final financial woes. But I had a pub deal. You know, I'm still my

my publishers. That's one thing that's that I've always had pub deal, publishers that believe that I can get outside cuts. You know, So at that time I didn't I wouldn't say I just shut the artist thing down, but I wrote, man, I aimed and aimed to get outside cuts, you know, I wanted outside country cuts. And one of these mainstream artists, uh to to you know, I just knew somebody was gonna cut one of my songs. We're gonna be huge. Kind of solidified me a spot in that writer community.

And uh, I eventually did get a cut um from Rodney Atkins. Uh he cut one of my songs called Touching Feet, and uh it was you know, it was a great motivation, you know, to keep on writing and didn't end up being a single. But okay, what about this one? Kind of forgot about seat? That's rights too, right. Yeah, that was the So that was when he cut on the next album, and that was ended up being his single. Yeah, I think I killed his career. No, you didn't squeezing.

You didn't know. He man, Roddy, He's a great guy, and he believed in some of my songs. And man, even though you know, I had several of those types of songs that that would get cut and maybe they weren't the single the big the big Dog on the record. But when you get those, man, it just kind of tells you. It's like it's like a whisper saying, hey, stick around, It's all right, you're here for a reason. What about this here Cold Fort song? Dirty side, Dude,

I love this song. This is my jams. You're right it. Yeah. Yeah, he featured me time. But if you side, I love a good side side you're looking for side I loved. I didn't know you can dance like there, I got it. So you wrote it together. Yeah, I'm super appreciated that they featured me. I'm talking about the perfect girl. Man, I'm gonna tell you that everywhere stopped looking at Magazine's

head on out. So you're writing, you're out, You don't have artists, Jill right, what you probably still want even you still want to be the artist, but you do have you want to be the writer. You talking about having dark times like your mind just like where did I tell you what? The darkest period I ever experienced here in Nashville was past these cuts. You know, you get a couple of cuts, and I'm still I'm not able to I mean, I'm barely supporting us, you know

what I'm saying. No, No, the money is not just rolling in from from these types of cuts. I'm I'm not having hit singles, which is kind of what you gotta have, you know, nowadays to to to thrive as a writer. You gonna have one every now and then. Um, I'm loving what I'm doing. I mean, I feel like I'm getting better and better and so much closer to dial in it in, you know, with with what artists need and what they want and getting those outside cuts.

But I'm playing at Pucket's boat house, and money gets real tight. I'm talking seriously tight, and uh, I don't really like to ask for help. And I had toyed with, you know, getting kind of a second gig, and I remember this this night I will never forget. I'm playing Pucket's boat House, which, by the way, it's like a restaurant and a stage for people. Um just so that it's like a very famous Nashville Southern food restaurant and

they're a stage. And so what I what I was doing is, you know, I didn't have artists deal, but I want to keep performing. So that uh that the Andy Marshall and Puckets so always so gracious to me giving me a gig, and I'm playing for tips, and what I would do is play an hour and then host an open mic night just for the community. I wanted to meet new writers and stuff and kind of do what people did for me in my first couple

of years here. So one night, this guy comes and his name is Nick Candre and uh, sweet sweet yuh comes up, wants to play at the open mic night. And he just thinks, you know, he's he's heard my songs on Rodney, my stuff on Colt. He thinks I'm like Elvis, you know, and he's just treat me like it too, and he and he mentions at one point in the night that he worked at the tire center at Costco and I was looking for a job at

night so I could continue writing during the day. And so it was just a humbling moment to kind of be like, Hey, while you're getting my autograph, do you know any you know, is there any openings at Costco? You know, are they looking for for people that stock stuff overnight and stuff? And he hooked me up and

that's how I got a job at Costco. But it was just I mean, I don't know if embarrassing is the word, but you know, it was just it was an interesting moment that he saw me as kind of like an influence on him musically, and I was so happy, you know, to meet me. And I was like, hey, uh, I kind of need a job, you know, I need some help. Can you can you hook me up? And uh so that was that that was a low a low point for me. Um, kind of having to ask for help from that guy. Do you feel like he

learned from it and appreciate it even more afterwards? Just through that experience with Costic experience, everything everything that is connecting with people now is pretty much about that experience in my life. So yes, um, it's been truly beneficial. Um. I got a great perspective. Uh you know, what matters, you know, what matter in life. That's kind of what

Leela Stars is about. You know, I did a lot of I did a lot of I don't know what you say, like not soul searching, but you know, we uh interesting songs this guy and it's just a roof from Yeah. Yeah, that song is about the thumb tacks that she gave me to hold up the roof of Mi Honda that I had at the time, and when my roof was coming down, I lost it and I

was just crazy at that point in my life. I was drinking a ton just to kind of cut the edge off the heaviness, um and the burdens and stuff that I I was kind of up against with wanting to still chase my dream, kind of thinking I was nuts um. Pretty much to let everybody looking at us

from the outside, I probably thought I was nuts too. Um. You know, I had all the kids and I was still trying to do that to take care of them when I could have you know, done a lot of other things and made a whole lot of sense, you know, to take care of them. But yeah, lettle Stars is about those stumb tacks that she she let me borrow and I was really bummed and frustrated at the time.

The roof coming out in my car was one of those moments in your life where you're looking up and you're like, you gotta be kidding me, you know, like I need one freaking more thing unit to carry right now. And uh, one morning, when I was about to clock in at Costco, I looked up and I saw those

thumb tacks and it just reminded me. Well, first I thought of her face and just her smile and how much fun she had putting those up, and uh, she just thought they're awesome, you know, they made the car look incredible, And it was just an interesting perspective at that time to remember, Hey, I got healthy kids, I do have a job, I have to you know what I mean. And I'm still able to write. My wife never was unhappy, you know, I was really the only one,

uh that was unhappy. Um. And so that was a that was a great moment um and and got a cool song out of it. So you were drinking a lot. You don't drink it all now, so so you must be drinking a lot. I have to stop, man, I was, I mean, we want we want to talking about numbers. I mean I was like, I mean, I was drinking from I was drink at Costco. Um. You know, obviously I was doing my work, um, working hard, but I mean I was I was drinking on on breaks at Costco.

You know, I go to the parking lot, you know, and do that leave, go do a show with the Bluebird. You know, they were hiring me for shows. I was still able to get some work out of them. Um. I drink before him, drinking after him, drink while I wrote, drive home, drink because you're sad man. Uh yeah, I think you know, I think I was just uh, I just didn't want to face not making it, you know, not not being able to to take care of everybody. You know. It's it's almost like when you're drunk. Uh,

those things aren't as heavy. You know, they don't matter, I guess, and um, drinking a little bit out of just insecurity and fear, you know, I guess, uh, you know, just scared. What was the point where you were like, Okay, I gotta I gotta chill, dude. Me quitting is the weirdest story I don't, you know. Hopefully at some point it will make sense where I could kind of help other people, and and and and and explain it. But honestly,

I mean I think I was. I think my body just said to my brain, you have to you have to quit. You know, we're working and drinking that much. I woke up on a Saturday. I remember that as in October football game day, me and football. Not drinking just didn't ever happen. That hadn't happened since I was probably like fifteen, I don't know, something crazy like that. And I just didn't drink one Saturday. And I don't even know why. I didn't like wake up and say, man,

I gotta stop. I just woke up. I didn't drink that day. Um, I didn't drink on Sunday. A couple of days turned into a week, you know, and then it became this like challenge where it was like I've gone this far, I want to go backwards, you know. And I also kind of had a little sobriety high. You know, when you quit drinking you've been drinking that much, your body feels really really good once it gets over, um, you know, not craving just to drink with with all

your might. But so yeah, now I'm like that was two octobers ago. So I'm a year and almost a half. The funny thing is I don't drink. Guy there, Walker doesn't drink, and we're go on tour beer it like the writers like full of beer and it just sits there. It's like, Walker, I know you don't drink, but if you know anybody that wants beer, they can have it, said Nikita. End up drinking some of it. Show a little Nikita, So okay, tell me about this song here,

this one, let's play. Let's see, man, I got all of them. It's like asking me which kid I'd like to do here? Talk about this one beer in the fridge. I quit drinking. The reason I want to get drunk because I played on the radio. I was like, I was moved by the song. Yeah, I still look out for the car when I'm driving around town, and I'm still not quite sure what to do with my hands. It's in a crowd. There's a lot I can't remember,

and a lot I can't forget. One silver bulleting in the chamber, and I'm playing rush Rule without being the Friends, Last of twelves so Survivor, My last all night the back of the bottom how Ruled that all. It's gonna be so real man. Uh. It just touches on a lot of you know, fears, insecurities that I deal with. And like you know, you're asking, you know, why were

you drinking that much? Uh? You know my wife has never never threatened to leave me, but she probably should have several times you know in those in those in that time period, you know, when I was drinking that much and uh there you know there was there's so many lines in that song that the front. My one song line, one lyric in that song that I feel like describes me and something that I that I deal with is the first one about ranting to your mama, church, mama,

praying for you. Now. Well like I'm just I just care what people think, you know, and I and I and I and my own worst critic as well. And drinking uh made me care less, you know. Uh that was one positive about drinking. You know obviously don't you don't need to drink to do that. But you know, I I feel pressure, you know, to to be a certain just I don't know, to succeed, you know, and uh, prem yourself for myself. But but you know, like I said,

when I told lady's parents we were coming here. I feel the eyes, you know, I feel the I've ill people saying, are You're crazy, You're not gonna make it, You're not good enough. You know you're not this And I don't want to believe him, but I kind of do. And when I'm drinking, I definitely don't. I don't care what they think. Um, but that song is so true, you know the line about the hands. I mean, dude, the first show that I played without a beer, I

just felt completely naked. I mean, I've never felt stupider in my life because you know, so many years of strumming that last chord and reaching for that beer. I was to a point where just holding a beer before I even open the thing it gave it made me feel a sense of security. You know. That's kind of where I was with drinking. But yeah, it's true. I mean, um, but again I will say, I mean, Lenny, it's not true.

I didn't lose you know, my wife, but uh, you know, she said many tears, you know, talking to me about it, and I was at a point went where I admitted, you know, she would say things like she didn't say things anymore like do you have a problem. I would admit I wasn't in denial. At the point when I quit, I said, I do have a problem, and I can't. I'm not gonna go without it. You know, I need this right now for me, you know, I want to

move over to the comedian. Yeah, your dark songs like resonate with me, like a hardcore like being in the fridge. You know, I come from a family of addicts and alcoholics, and I was like, damn, man, just I just I feel the honesty in these songs um with the comedian, which I wanna play right here. It's too bad. Being funny and being happy. He ain't the same thing. It

ain't the same thing. It's so sad. Some of the longlist hearts in the crowd of the most entoting such a strange keys to the ones who makes laugh to keep themselves from crying, gets to the ones who makes laugh to keep themselves from cry, Like I heard the song and it's gonna tell you it's like it can and I have issues like that, like where it's you know, I want to wake people laugh so they can't see

how sad. And it's the process that I've been dealing with for a long time, and it's that's the front you try to people laugh, That's where you find love. That's where I always was able to find love. Like let maybe the gay that makes people laugh, because that's I'll find the love from that. I have trouble accepting love, of trouble giving love just from the environment. You know.

You and I talked about as a nature or nurture, like we have that conversation like away from stuff, and for me, I think it's it's definitely nurture the love thing. And I heard that song, I was like, dear God, are you writing songs from my brain? Like every song to you would sing, I'll be like God. So the comedian is that about a front of your specifically? So he went to high school with them? Yeah, it's about a friend I grew up with and he did not,

uh commit suicide. Hey, but he died at an early age and he was that guy, uh you know, just hilarious, um, but did have issues, you know, and as we all do. You know, I think so many people can can relate with that song. You know. It's that we all try to find that affirmation. That's never really enough, but it sure helps, you know. It doesn't sustain any any long term healing or fix us. You know. It's like drinking

a beer. And it does make me feel good immediately, you know, and as does me performing on stage and getting that laughing. It makes me feel like I just jumped out of a plane. You know. But when you get back into green room and you all by yourself, all the real stuff comes back, you know, when you gotta do it again. But yeah, that that song, I'm so glad a guy named Matt Jenkins and Josh Jenkins they wrote it with me, and they were insistent that that we that we do that song together, and I'm

glad you appreciate it. I'm glad people. Yeah, that's like and and we'll get to the more of beat stuff because you have a sound that is not like anyone else. But I just you know, it's my podcast. I talk about whatever I want. So those are like, those are the songs that hit me hard. And I was just like, okay, he's like speed songs a lot of times don't speaking

real human words anymore. And when you do feel something out then in regardless of sonically what it sounds like, it being authentic still cuts through no matter what's behind it? Something for real still cuts through regardless of the format the instruments, like realness cuts through. And so that's what I felt from like stars and the Comedian and beer in the fridge. And but then you know, you got stuff like break the internet, shake a little bit of sha,

shake a little bit, how did your dollar? You make? All the stuff in your shack? And then beat on tables, beat on the wall, slammed the door, all these sounds. It's you in that microphone and you're beaten cups and sounds it. Let's I got a keyboard, win break back. Then you're doing all these bats B G V maniac. But I got the record. As you're cutting this and you're playing it for people, what are they saying to you, Like, man, it don'tnna work? Or is it gonna be great? Or

what they what are they saying? Well, Uh, you know, my people at my publishing company, they saw me obviously, uh you know, to write songs, but wanted me to. They sign me with the intention of me being an artist. And you know, I think at first they thought, hey, he's gonna write that one, you know, that dangerous one on the country. Ready, you know that country radio slaps Slam first released bah Boom, and what happened was I kind of got off therapeutic you know, on them, like

you talk about Comedian and stuff like that. Those feel so good for me to write, you know, sometimes it's just great to get that stuff off of your chest and tell everybody that makes me feel better. And so that's what I was doing with those those dark ones and then the happy ones. That's just kind of how that's how I want to party, you know, that's the stuff I want to play live. And they definitely were.

What what happened once I started turning and turning them in and my team didn't see really a fast track. Hey this is going to country radio, you know obviously from the sound. But they just love them, you know, they liked they loved the song. They found themselves listening to them, um and cheat and I know it's cheesy, but I even found myself I would listen to them

like they're not me. I'd be like, I just liked this song the comedian, you know, yeah money which such base on my body on a honey you make me want to check time cruise in my mind, he said, due to be I say that's something me. I scrubbing the front seat, telling me hanging out like Mike, what dia fun of all? This project was the first song you wrote. So the first song on this project that was written was either say sober you broke up with me.

I don't know which came first, the chicken or the egg um, but yeah, those those those two you broke up with me was the one where we all went, Hey, keep doing that, because that's something about that, this unique and digestible. And this is a single now if you broke up to see me? But hey, if you broke up me, it was can I say you broke up me? What's funny? Is I remember texting you because the song

came out. Yeah, you know, you produced it yourself, and I tell you us like, hey, or the new version, it's it's pretty slightly different parts. It's like more radio palatable girl. And your response was, I'm listening to it like I never heard of before. And you can't grasp my party with yore Sorry Sam, wha, he's just don't be raining on my money, gop rain Oh a minute, I ain't eat my face to listen to yogio tripping.

Y'all folking and girl you made yo man and then on me and who sim down to night and nobody making you watch me getting that it's good. So that's a single now and you're working out, you know. The interesting thing is is that And I'll just talk about my listeners for a second, because I can always tell by my listeners if it's a suppose the right way, what will work, because all I gotta do is play something. My listeners are no bs and they don't like it.

They just don't. They don't do what I say. I just try to give them good options that they probably wouldn't be able to hear other places. Like, Honest to god, I can't make them do anything. But what I try to do in my job is go, this is different or this is really good, and you're not going to hear this anywhere else, and if you like it, then consume it. However, and I played that song, and I looked at an iTunes before I played it because I like to see what happens. And I give it one

full spin. It was a three. I played it one time with an hour and half went to thirty eight or something, and I was for me, it wasn't a like for me, it wasn't like, man, Bobby, I told you you knew what was good. It was God if people can get out of that box a little bit and see this is one spin. People reacted to this song, and so you know, I've tinkered with it a bit more more. But now it's kind of like, let's let's

let the label see what they can do. But it's gotta be cool to see people hear it and go, wow, I heard it now, I like it. Let me buy that. Yeah, it's gonna be some kind of bit like like okay, letybe, there's something to this. Do you feel that? Oh? Man? Yes? And uh, you know you have. The first question you're asking was what it What was it mean for you to to be on a label? And I just didn't It's all every day it's a good day. I'm not kidding though. I mean every that that day we celebrated.

I celebrate everything right now. And that is amazing that that that I woke up that day and you know, you play my song one time and it does that and and yes, man, I mean you know, you work so hard on music and you just think it's so good and and you just then he produced and it's so awesome. And then he put out put it out there, and you're like, now it's time to see. You know, the critics are paying and using their criticizing with their money,

and when they pay it, they're not criticized. And when they don't pay it the right and so now just to see I mean, we had a sick first week when we blew it up and it was awesome and and yeah, I mean it is so it is so gratifying, uh you know that people and people liked it like they're liking it. I mean, hey, another song too that I saw a track and I was like, how can this song even be a song? He just by looking at the name of it. Oh, I was like my yeah,

I was like, he wrote a song about Halloween. And I remember because I think it was on the second the set, but how long was on the second age break the internet? So Halloween. I was like, well, let me even see what this song is about Halloween? Like what is this about that? Dude? One? Like one of the deepest songs and beautiful way because that's like I

get to take off my costume. You're talking about your wife? Yeah, and then knock knock on yo though the mask I ye shouted like glasses on the phone, and it was like Halloween. It's all the people opportund rest in peace, restes, rest in peace, so deep, so good, it's all the people appetenderess tmties best pies. What's it like playing that for your wife? Oh? Man? Uh awesome because she's so numb.

You know, love songs in twelve years, three or four pub deals, you write a ton of love songs and you just you come home and you're like, did I get you? Did it? Did this one get you? And? Uh? None? None of them? You know. God her like this one because we dated in high school and she knew that's what she meant to me immediately, you know, right off the bat. I was a real insecure kid trying to fit in and mobile, and then I met her and she just saw the side of me that she really

fell in love with. And uh that's yeah, one of her favorite songs for sure. We're talking about this sleep number for a second. Did you look at my room we walked by? I wanted to, but I want I'm glad you didn't. I gotta sleep number bed and less in time of year, maybe tempted once again to go to the same old mattress store and start to the same old bed just because it's on sale. But let me tell you right now, Sleep Number has the bed that adjusts to whatever it is, your back, your neck.

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this thing. I mean, think anybody even gonna listen, like Mike d and I this is no but this is our equipment, Like this is just stuff that we wrangled up and we started doing this little podcast and we were talking to people like, for example, Katelyn one of the first ones, he was on your It's just Caitlin right now. I was like, hey, like come over the house because I'm gonna do this thing. I'm gonna talk to artists, talk to songwriters. And then now we got

to sleep number sponsor and this thing. But so uh yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's like, let me ask you this. You put all the stuff out for free. At first, well,

who thought of that? Why was that the plan? So that was thought of by my manager, Rob Robert Carlton, and he's kind of famous now, but he, uh, you know, he heard my stuff and like we were talking earlier, he heard those songs that I was building in the shack and he said, you know, he ain't gonna fit country radio right now, but these will build a fan base. People will share these, they will love them, they will

connect to them. And so that's what we did. We just started putting them out, started touring a little bit, got a couple of opening slots you know last year, and places to go play them, got the loop, started learning how to do that because just wanted them to sound as close as I could to these tracks. And that's why we started putting out free music. And it was so exhilarating, was so therapeutic for me. It obviously made me a better writer. I feel like they just

keep getting better and better. I'm already working on number three. I don't know where that lives, you know, as far as label stuff goes, but they will let me continue the eight tracks, and so I'm excited about those. They'll just keep coming for me. I'm a huge fan of you and the music that you mate. Yeah, welcome, shut up. I became a huge fan way earlier, Like I was obsessed with it and I would say on the radio,

It's like, what's the biggest albums a year? And I'd be like you know, I'll played Repcord from Urban a lot, Maren and Walker Hays and I was and and I would mean it from the bottom of the heart. And it wasn't like you and I were talking every day. We were I don't even know if we were talking. We were maybe exchange the text occasionally. But I was just a fan. Like I was just a fan because I love people who try things that aren't the same, even if they fall on their face, Like I love

people that take shots falling forward. It's still it's still moving forward. And so one I like the music and too, I enjoy the fact that you were trying something new, and so I would say that stuff like magazine to do interviews like what you let's do most I love Dirk's album. I love the Walker Hayes album like it was just that's just because it was like, what's the most thing that you playing? And so something that shook

me a bit. And I'm jaded first to admit it, because I've been doing this now and just in this capacity for four years and I've had Garth Brooks sit beside me right and play, and I've had you name it's it's it's great, and it never loses the fact that it's great. But when when you eat Filet mignon every day, it becomes kind of normal. So it's like I enjoy it and I still appreciate it, but rarely the things shake me. Occasionally, things like really, and I'm

gonna tell you. I get a message from one of my friends, she works at my record label, and it's Mega boardman and she says, uh, do you hear this song called Payne Walker Hay sent on the email. I was like, no, I'm not on his email list. I'm not anybody's email us. I didn't know he had to

email us. Like I just listened to the music and I was like, no, she goes, you should probably hear it, and I was like, well send me the email, and so like I'm gonna tell you eyeball to eyeball, I just sat in my car and I was like, to have someone you're such a huge fan of like even mention you and that song. I was like, this is like crazy in my life. Honestly, it means the world for you to say that, because when you put somebody in a song, you're like, are they gonna hate? Like

is this gonna suck for them. It it was. It was the weirdest thing. It was a great I have trouble with emotion, feeling at trouble letting myself feel emotion because I feel like any good emotion is gonna be gone, and any good emotion has to be met with equal bad. So I try not to have good emotion like it's a Listen, I'm nuts, right, I had great emotion from the song man, that's awesome and so and you can't do this. This is online, but this is pain from

walking around here you go, mate. Two thousand sixteen, seven something in the morning, I was driving when a dream Comes True came through my high the factory speakers and on me. Bobby Bones played a song and I wrote about lonely beer and a fresh it's one of my doctors. What you hear is out felt from the broken in my heart was about addiction, love, loss and recovery. Trust me, I only wrote it because I had to get it out of me, not for Nashville, not for radio, for

nobody bought me. And maybe that trouble so pressing rewind, wrestling demons like mine looking for company in this design that doesn't really feel so brand all the time. I didn't known because iteels so good, feel so grand all the time, Dan, I didn't know because feels so good like I get your box out listen to. So I guess I want to know about it because well, I never asked you about the song because I was kind of embarrassed to do it, because I was like, yeah,

I love that. I was embarrassed. So did you know I was gonna play your song that morning? Because I don't think. I don't tell anybody I'm gonna play their music. Well, you know, when we've we've talked about this, Um, I just feel weird, you know, asking you know people to do that. You know, I honestly you know that that song is in that category of of comedian uh leadless starr. You know, nobody asked me to write about that. Um, I just had to, you know, it was it was

a special moment for me. I was out in the middle of nowhere, um picking up Actually I had my loop worked on in close to Murfreesboro, so I was just driving when you played beer in the fridge, and man, it just wasn't another one of those moments where you gotta pinch yourself and and I was like I can't believe what is happening to me at that at this

point in my life. You know, I got six kids I could barely feed, uh, you know a year ago, and now, uh my work tapes rocking on the radio, you know, and Beer in the Fridge is a naked song. I mean, it's the truth. There's like three things on the track. Um, you know, so I'm here and Keith Urban blow it up and then all of a sudden, I hear just you know always and it just rocked me. Man. I mean, you know, I don't have a lot of I have a lot of those moments where I like

pull over and cry. I mean, I freaking love music and it it has so much emotional power over me. But I have never felt like I did when I listened to that song. Uh. And so I had to write about that moment and everything that it made me think of, you know, how far my life had changed pretty quick, you know, And so I just blurted it all out in that song. And you were obviously a part of that story. Um. So thanks. It was a

great business. But honestly, like you said, I mean, I gotta tell you, there were moments where I was like I don't know if I want to release it. Like I was also like, do I just put like a DJ? I didn't know whether whether you would appreciate having your name and it or I was like, he's gonna think this is just a business move. But honestly, I've rent you know, we're running by my team as I was creating the song, and they were like, man, you mentioned Mike,

that guy you worked with a Costco. You mentioned your wife and your kid, and you you know the the song is honest about every detail. There's not one. I've always We've always laughed because I'm like, somebody's gonna ask about that song and be like can you can you tell me about it? And I'm just gonna be like, well, two thousand and sixteen, so you know, just I'm gonna recite this song because there's really nothing else to say. It's just the on truth down to the Costco card

in the freaking console. I believe you too, because one you didn't put it out like out out, Yeah it was you sit down an email. It's still up there for you can't even like stream it. Yeah you gotta get um it's nowhere and you know, and I hope you eventually, if you put it up, it's all good. And I don't believe anybody at any time for any reason. I believe you because I just I don't believe you. I don't believe anybody like you. Know how it is

around here. Yeah, when times are good, everybody's your friend. And when times aren't good, and no, I want anything to do with you. And I do know that, man, And that's that's a that's the nature of this beast. And so you got to find the people. And this isn't just our business, this is like a life thing.

You have to find the people that when times are on that stock market downtick, that are right by your side, and you keep them by your side when that stock market goes back up because it's gonna go back down again. And so those are the people just ride, they just ride, let him ride with you, and you ride with them. And that's how you find the people, like the people that are with you when it's down, or the people that you just keep on surrounding yourself. Right, And there's

like a few and that's it. I know, we had this whole conversation like off Mike days ago. But yeah, yeah, it's weird. It's been cool. It's been cool getting to know you because again, I'm just a huge fan and that's why I went. And I was like, I was doing this whole stand up comedy tour and you know, I can ask whoever I want to open, And I was like, man, I would love to freakin Walker Hayes come out because I just want to watch a blay like no other reason, Like I just want Walker to

come out. And then in the middle of all this to see like you popping, like just popping. Is it now where you're starting to be cool and people are now coming out going, hey, cool guy, you want to work together? Oh yeah, I bet that happens. And you know what, that's okay because you're gonna trust as far as you can throw them, but you can still use

each other for for whatever advantage you're working together. Yeah, and that's you know, I'm ashamed to say this, but I'm sure I've done that to somebody in this town, you know, And I try to remember that that we're all capable of that. And um, but yeah, I mean a lot of people are definitely coming out of the woodwork. Um, and that's tough. You know, sometimes it's tough to accept that you need the people coming out of the woodwork, though, is its exactly you need them. It's just used them

for what they're there to be used for. Yeah, that they're not the people that are completely down, but they're down for what you need them for, and you're down for what you need them for. Just remember I didn't come out of the woodwork. I was ware. I was like, I was like hiding in the woods. I was waiting, like I was up in a tree looking down. I was like, you see Walker. Oh man, it's been good. I hope you enjoyed like hanging and talking. No, I dide, man,

thank thanks for having me. I feel like I've been on out. It is like it's therapeutic. And here's a little something. This is called Walker singing to the Duggers. Would you like to talk to us? Oh my gosh, sing it to the Duggers? You told me from the show. You tell me what this is? Hey, guys, Hey, how's it going? You guys like music? No way? You got a second? You have the episode? Yeah, so go ahead

and tell me before I play what exactly? Okay, So this is uh S is when Derek and Jill I think is her name, got engaged and how did you end up on this show? Okay, so there The producer of the show lives near me and called me one day. He didn't hear yeah, you heard me on the back porch. Now he actually, Man, he was just like, we're thinking about doing this segment. If you can give us a song, I can convince the network that they need to do this. And I say, man, tell me about their love story.

He was like, it's really cool. They went all the way to Catman Do, but they lived, you know, super close, but went all the way to another country and met each other here. So I just wrote this song and uh, he was like, boom, that's perfect for their uh engagement. Here we go. Hey, guys, Hey, how's it going. You guys like music? You got a second? I got a song that reminded me music. Hey, that'd be great. Will you go up about thirty show minutes down the street.

But we had to go eight thousand miles away to meet I'm not sure what the Lord was thinking taking us all the way to cat Man Do, but I know he was thinking of me when he made you so and as beautiful as that is, the acting is first of all, has anyone ever in the history of questions answered the word no till you do? Like, Hey, do you like music? It's a safe question. Nah, not really all right man? Hey do you like food? No? And they just listen to the acting here, Uh yeah,

what's up? Even the Hey guys, it's pretty bad, just like sitting in Hey guys, Hey, how's it going? God? This is awful the acting. Nobody wrote a script. I remember meeting with him and I talked to him because he knew he was in on it. I would hope. Yeah, man, we botched it big time. But she was still, Hey, how's it going. You guys like music? She's like, yeah, I do, Yeah, I do. How lucky because of all the people in the world, they both liked music, and

you're lucky that they both did. Man, it was a dude. I'm no, I'm no actor, come on hey man' uh? And I haven't been written a song about your whole life? Yeah, do you have a second to stop for me? While I played this whole long I read about your life. This is totally random. By the way, Do you like music? I've I've actually auditioned for some stuff and failed. Big time. I mean acting is talk about putting your guard down. I mean that's a scary thing, kind of like your

comedy thing. We were talking about before we went out. I was asking you if you're a friend, it's all vulnerable. It's all vulnerable. Music, vulnerable, comedy, vulnerable acting, it's all. If you're creative, you are vulnerable because people are choosing if they like or don't like what you're doing, and you need them to do that. That's vulnerable. You need someone to like or not like you. Hopefully they like you.

But you don't create, so people don't care. You create so hopefully people care, and then when they don't, you realize I didn't create good enough or or at the time, I didn't create good enough. So just as you get up and you sing songs about your life, they are very vulnerable. I get up and I tell stories, and the entire light, the entire him is focused on my mouth hole. And that's it. But I mean, really that's it. But I thrive off that the same way that you're

doing writing music. I thrive off of just and again it comes back to just being like needing that love too, like that that's that's finding love. For me. Hey, go out. I need that. I need that love, so I fight for it. Have terrible relationships, God terrible. I want to talk about it. No, I don't think so it's not it's not in the moment, not right now. This is this is not a Bob. This is not a Bobby. Bobby casts a Walker podcast. All right, so downlow, you

broke up with me. It's only saw him that you can download right now. Yeah, we need to do nobody making you watch. It's not good. It is. God is difficult to see me. But hey, you broke up with me. It was you broke up So Walker, depending on when you hear this, will be out on the road with me until May. Walker Hayes dot com website to um whenever. What's Fun is on on tour? Nikita Carmen it comes

down and sings Halloween with you? Is it? Like she's so good, right, and like nobody even knows about her really yet that's weird to me. She's so because she's so good. But they're going to you know, and I'm gonna pull her once and you know she I just met her on Skype and I was like, you gotta move to the States. Really oh yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know your story. I don't know. Oh yeah, yeah. We were just looking for someone, like I needed a girl in the band so I could like write funny

stuff from a girl perspective, raise women. And so I went through and I she couldn't find anybody. So I gave up, and from was like, hey, you should. They're just going Australia. She's not trying to get to the States and be a singer songwright over here, but she plays some pubs and I was like, oh okay. So I skyped with her and thinks like ten am. I was like, hey, can you hear your guitar in the office, and she wouldn't got her guitar. Scyped with her like

an hour later and she played on skype. That's the only time I ever said, ever seen and I was like, oh my god, yeah, you're you're so good. She's like, oh, I didn't known about that. And I was like, can you get on a plane in the year in three days? And she got on a plane quarter job, moved here. I didn't have any murder live. She lived with me for like two and a half months or so, and so and I was just like you, just just right right.

She's just writing. She got a publishing deal. She you know, you know, but she's so good yeahs and people will find her. I wonder five every day we're talking about dude with me. She's sick. She uh yeah, she's like two ft tall. Here we go, Nikita Karmen. This is the first a place with this m M. I didn't cry when he said I'm not the one because I ain't want to come undone. I hear my head up high and bit my tongue. I let the goodbye setting like us couldn't stop thinking about too of us and

heartbreaks hard to rise above. I'll take the high road and I'll keep my cool Brett as soon won't be thinking about you first than it so, my friend, she's not that pretty. You don't look how for s happy as you do with me. She's wearing that trendy Tom Petty t shirt. I'll stop being petty by your American girl. The first time he was my week's wage. One Guila Christen and a lipstick on the bathroom mirror, and damn

gonna wake up on the feel just fine. I just gotta go a little out of my mind first, guys, like, I know you talk about she like calls that a EP or she's just like those are all worked tape. I'm gonna tell you something. I believe if you were to do that whole play a thing, that joker would jump off the charge. I mean that song reminds me of like something Lord, the royal person, the person. You know what I'm saying. No, she's legitimately like fantastic. I'm

looking over here. It's like other artists. You may know if it's her, Ready for the list, walk ahead, Lindsay l my my girlfriend, Slash her roommate now Brandon Ray, who is like they're one of the greatest, and like, that's another you can sing his brains off. The raging idiots, Caitlin Smith, Natalie Himby, that's her people you may know. God, yeah, Walker, good luck, man, dude, thank you. I need it. I'm enjoying this, appreciate you have. I mean, man, this is awesome.

Relaxing the chair, it is I don't want to get up. He walked in the house, it was like, this is where you live. You know what, though, seriously, you need to let somebody do a Bobby cast on you. I do that every morning. It's told the Boby b Show. But you need somebody. I wrote a book. You need someone to ask no questions about uh personal stuff like Amy kind of did a bit, right Amy. Yeah we don't with Amy, she did a bit. But I wrote a book. Good. I'm good. I got on yeah, second one.

I talked about that maybe yeah, but yeah, it's good. Life's good for me. I'm the thing about me. It's about Walker. I'm a huge fan, like die hard fan, like as legitimately as possible. And I kept you from this for a while because it was like everybody was like, all right, enough for Walker ahead talk about Walker Hayes, like you just wait. I have a tweet that I say from like seven months ago that was like in a year. But it's gonna be like, why did I

sleep on Walker Hays. I save that tweet. I'm gonna show everybody one day and be like I told you good to see you man. Thanks. All right, Walker Hays download anything he puts out, I demand it. All right, good, alright, Mike, we're out. What episode was that thirty six? All Right? Walker Hayes at Walker Hayes right dot com. H A. Y E. S. Walk from me on Instagram. Yeah, at

walker Heights on Instagram and Twitter at walkers dot com. Uh, he's out with me doing all the music and I do with the jokes until may have you announced the other thing yet? Don't know? Okay, so then in mind other stuff coming down, other stuff coming for us. All right, we'll see you, uh siting, Bye, buddy. You can hearly keep this STI thing in the back up forgot to turn her part down anyway, by it