Episode 35 - Bailey Bryan (2-7-17)

the tea drier. I just came up back from the gym, so I was. I had to take a shower, so you rated the tea drawer. I'm actually wearing pants. Yeah I'm not. I'm not getting any weird smells, nothing, nothing. So we met. I guess I heard your song, I don't know, three months or so ago, and then I played it off the internet. Maybe and my life was changed forever, not yet, but I did not. Maybe it hasn't changed already. All right. You had come from from

rehearsal today straight over here. Yes, so what are you rehearsing for? Oh just a little uh a tour with these little artists called Dan and Shay. They're they're actually a little You're right, yeah, no, Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on tour with Dan and Shay this this February and the first week of March. So when you go on tour with those guys, Like, how long is your set before the show? I think my set's gonna come out to like half an hour. That's a

pretty long set for first, you know, first time out. Yeah, I'm excited. It's a lot were we went through the We ran through the whole set once in rehearsal, and it was it went't good. I like to talk to I don't know if it's like a nervous thing. I've noticed that in some of your YouTube clips. I just kind of go on and see what happens. It it works out sometimes most of the time. I think you're a songwriter. Yes, So what about did you right own it? I didn't, I knew you did. I just want you

to say it. This is to own it from Bailey Bryan. Here you got good bye? Yeah cool? Giuse? Who did you write a song? I wrote it when I was sixteen. Imagine if someone else wrote this song and I heard it and I was like, oh my god, that's everything about me. Um, yeah, that does happen though, Yeah, no, true, because now I get other people say like who listened to the song and being like how did you know all these things about me? Like John Mayer sings? And

I'm like, that's me exactly. So I refute your point. That's true. That wouldn't I guess it wouldn't be that weird. It would not. It wouldn't be that weird kind of a dumb thing to say to all Right, well, I'm full of regret. We're off to a great start. So okay, so let's just start from the beginning here. So you're eighteen, now nineteen? I turned nineteen like three days ago. Really, so you can vote? Yeah, well I could. You can buy lottery tickets, yes, Michael. What else can you do

an eighteen? You can buy cigarettes? But I don't smoke. You shouldn't smoke. I don't want to smoke. I'm not gonna Probably the worst thing I could do, this disgusting. What else can you do? Nod? Yeah? Did you know she wasn't even born? When Tupac and her biggie was alive, I walked in wearing a tupac. What a poser? Yeah? Can me two podcast? Can you name a couple? Yeah?

Name one? I'm mad at you. Okay, you went like deeper cut two on the first one, so you didn't go like changes No changes is my favorite though, that's fair, but it was on the radio. Yeah, okay, So let's just start with you. Your eighteen now nineteen? Now excuse me, you're nineteen. So musically you picked up a guitar star plan how old? Uh? Twelve? Why? I always love to sing.

I would do all my like local talent shows and stuff. Um, and I would do background tracks, and I got kind of sick of that, Like you like, we'd go online, go onto iTunes, find like the karaoke version. Okay, so you have to buy background tracks and you don't want to do that anymore? No, And I think my parents didn't want to do that anymore. We would buy the background track, burn the c D, give it to the person running sound at the church talent show or something.

And I was like, you know what, I feel like, I'm ready to take it to the next level. I want to be able to play the songs I'm singing, and um, I always wanted to write songs too, but it's it's harder to write a song if you can't have music with it. And so the writing happened the same time that the guitar playing happens. So you get a guitar um and you buy it from just a like a guitar store. I think my dad got online. He got it from me for Christmas. It was a

jasmine takamini. Do you have it? Yeah, somewhere like in a closet at my parents house. So you start playing. How long until you play well enough to write a song? Um? That came fairly quickly. I mean I UM, I didn't really take formal lessons until like a year ago because I got to Nashville and I was like, all right, well I need to step it up because everyone here

is a good musician. Um. I just I like sat down with a family friend who played guitar at a church and I was like, can you show me the easiest chords that I need to know, like to write a song. And so he showed me, like ge my nurse, and um I practiced like for hours every single day. So I would say it was like a couple of months and then I wrote my first song. So you're thirteen or so, when do you go out and play

your first show with your guitar? Um. I'm trying to think of like the first time I played for a big group of people. I want to say it was probably like my middle school talent show I did. Um. Yeah, I want to see the first Like the first one I can remember doing when I was was when I was in eighth grade, I played a song that I wrote for my my middle school talent show. And how did that go? Over? Standing? Ovation? They go crazy? Yeah? First place? Actually yeah, no, first place was to own it. No,

it wasn't own it. What a good story that, Yeah, So you play your talent show and is it at that point? Were you still going to be a singer in your mind? Yeah? Definitely. You always wanted to be a singer. I think the first um way that I articulated what I wanted to do at a really young age was I want to be a famous singer. That was the when you're little, that's that's the for me. That was like the the title that I wanted. And as I've grown up, it's so I want to be

an artist. Yeah, the word famous? Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn't matter to me as much now as it did when I was younger. So you grew up in Washington State and I love it up there, but it's pretty secluded a little bit. Yeah I was. I grew up in um one of the more secluded areas, UM little town called Squim, Washington. And that's why I say my

the my first shows were school talent shows, church things. UM. The way that I uh got people to hear my music, I guess growing up was just taking my guitar and playing on the sidewalk because I was in one of those little towns and it was pretty spread out. We had like a tiny downtown area, and I would I would take my guitar and play my songs in front of Jose's taco stand. Would you make money a little? Would you make tacos? I sometimes he would give me tacos.

You'd be like, oh, poor girls, she's standing out there in the rainy person, a real person. He's a family friend. Oh yeah, okay. So when Jose's say I like it that you're here, was he kind of annoyed that you were there? No, Jose was Jose loved it. He Um, he gave me a sombrero to put on the ground for people to put money in. Okay, that's cool. Whenever never I tell people that, when I say, gave me some brother, Like did you wear some burrow and play

your songs? That might have been funnier, but I just I just put it on the ground. So you're playing out in front of Jose's on the weekends, ye Saturdays, and so I'm assuming you want to move to Nashville. Was that always the plan? Like you wanted to move to Nashville? Yep, I think. Um as soon as uh like Taylor Swift came out and I learned I was die hard fan of hers. Um, I so I knew everything I knew, Like she was discovered. I'm doing air quotes but no one can see me. Um. She was

discovered at the Bluebird Cafe. And so I was like, I need to go to Nashville. I need to play at the Bluebird Cafe. And so that that was kind of that That was I felt like that was the ticket. You know, Nashville is the place to go. Tell me about your first time ever to Nashville. My first time ever to Nashville. Um, it was like it was magical it was, Um, I got to play at the Bluebird Cafe. I just did it. Oh no, wait, no, that wasn't my first time. Never, I'm sorry that my second time

just the open mic. I waited in line forever and then didn't I didn't get to play. I didn't get my name drawn. And so then I got to play the next weekend because and then or was that it was a week too far over the ticket because if you don't make it, they give you a spot for the next time. Yeah, no they did, so I got to play the next time. They gave me a spot. Um. But that was like my second or third time to Nashville.

Um my first time, I just went. I was like, we just have to go, Like I just have to see the Bluebird Cafe. And um, I didn't know that it was like in a tiny little strip mall. So that that was that was a surprise for me. But I you know, I did the Bluebird Cafe, I did the pancake pantry. But um, my first, my very first trip was it was a writing trip I got to and that was when I signed my publishing deal when

I was fifteen. Um, I got to go down and uh, it was just a family friend that we reconnected with who's not my publisher. She invited me down to write for a week, like, see if I could do it, see if I liked it, um, And she was like, well, if you if I mean if you do a good job, if you like it, if it works for you, and will consider giving you a publishing deal. And I never

co written at this point, Um, but I did. I wrote in demo nine songs in that one week, and I just I fell in love with the process of co writing and Nashville just being surrounded by music. And at the end of that week, in the pancake pantry, UM, at a table full of people, I signed my first publishing deal. And so did that mean you were moving to town? Are you going to keep coming town? Just writing that meant uh, we're we're going to travel back

and forth. Um, So I would go every couple of months. So travel back and forth every couple of months until I was seventeen, after my junior year. That's when my whole family moved to Nashville, which is quite the remarkable story because you did you grow up in the same house you like your whole life basically moved once your parents they moved here too, like everybody pack family. Yeah, I have take that cut from her. She's been trying to lay down for like an hour. Didn'where it you

for noticing? I'm really helpless against you can't tell like, I don't know how do you use my arms? Um? What was the question? The question was whenever your parents decided to move down with you, Like that's a big commitment. Yeah, it was, so it was. I mean, of course, it was a couple of years, um in the making of the decision, and it was like we kind of agreed

as a family, like everybody knew. But even before I saw my deal, like my dream was to move to Nashville and to write songs and play them for people and recording the whole thing. Um. And so it kind of just came to a point when I when I was seventeen, coming to the end of my junior year. Um, I it looked like I had some opportunities waiting for me in Nashville. I had, I had a lot of songs, was ready to like start recording and shopping to lay bowls.

And we just kind of had a family meeting and it was like, Okay, either I can we can all move now as a family at seventeen, I can finish my senior year online. My little brother he's fourteen, you do that your school online. Um, and we're a close family, so that was one option we could do it. They could help me get settled, or I could wait until I was eighteen, win until I graduated, moved by myself with my limited connections in the city, uh, and kind

of figure it out. And being such a close family like my my parents wanted they wanted to set me up the right way and make sure I didn't feel alone and uh, just just that I was in a good spot. And so after like a lot of like thinking and praying, they were like, Okay, here's what we're gonna do. We haven't told anyone that we're gonna move. We're not gonna tell anyone that we're going to move, but we're just gonna like put our house on the market,

see what happens. And so that's what they did, just this one website, no sign in the RD nothing, and within twenty four hours we got a full price off around the house and they sold and they agreed. So what about your brother, were like, what he moved? And he was cool? With Yep, he's the coolest kid on the planet, probably always fifteen. Now his birthday was the other day, Happy late birthday, Cooper, um. But he's amazing.

I think the reason that he was cool with moving was because kind of just the way my parents raised us, Like he knew that if what he was passionate about and had opportunities in required moving across the country, they would do it for him too. So it sounds like your parents were always very what do you want to do? Do you love what you want to do? And if so, we love you and we're going to help you completely completely.

That's exactly what it was. I think it's a good in having having been in Nashville and like seeing and hearing a little bit about like other other people doing at my age. Like I feel like the trend with parents is either the parent that's like Mama, your data R type that's like I want my kid to be famous, like pushing them to it, or the parents that are like, get a real job, I'm not going to support your music career. Um. And so I was really lucky in that.

I feel like my parents are some definitely somewhere in the middle of like they never would have dreamed or chosen for their kid to venture into the music industry because they, of course it's scary as a parent um or a person um, but they they never want to be the thing that stands in between their kids and their dream. And they they saw that it was what I was passionate about. And they're the first people to believe in me. Um. My little brother is annoyingly good

at everything, so he's still figuring it out. But he's Um, I'm like the weird musical one in the family. UM. My parents owned a gym when we lived in squim. Um little brothers great in school, great at sports, basketball, skiing, nath um and kind of writing songs. Was like my one thing. Like he's like he has everything else. I have this one thing. Um. And about a year ago, UM like right before we moved to Nashville, Cooper Um, his name's Cooper. He was just like, you know, I

think I like, I'm interested in production. He's he he likes music, but differently than I do. He likes the like idi um, like chill, instrumental, all of that kind of stuff like European. I think so secretly or maybe maybe we are. I don't know, um, but yeah, he likes all of that stuff and like kind of weird. Um. I think it might be because he grew up around me hearing me songwriting in the other room, just like all the lyrics, and he's like, it can't have lyrics.

He's like, I want I just want the track exactly. He totally picked the polar opposite. It's like like tronic pop weird all that, but um, I was like, Okay, that's cool. And like my parents, being the supportive, awesome people that they are, they got they were like, okay, what do you need. Like they're like, we'll go in with you to get you the keyboard and the drum

pad and the software for your computer. And he just would just spend like months in his room like I did when I had my guitar, like watching YouTube videos and just figuring out how to use this stuff and how to like build tracks and everything, and he wouldn't let anyone hear it. And then a couple more months ago behind he's like, all right, barely, I'm ready to show you my first song and he shows it from shows it to me and it's already it's up on SoundCloud.

Figured out how to use SoundCloud. I don't know how to use SoundCloud. Um it's up and he plays it for me, and I'm like, dang it, this is actually good. You took my one thing. This was I was like, literally, Cooper music was all I had and he took my one thing and you did it in a cooler way. But I'm proud of it. And now he's like got a little bit of a following on his SoundCloud and every single like beat and track he makes it gets better. So now yep, and I would I would love to

collab with him someday. He just recently started letting me have input on what he does. When I traveled back home for Christmas, my family moved back to Washington State. Um, when I went home for Christmas, he was like, hey, Billy, can you help me come up with a hook for this? And so I was like, oh my gosh, I've been waiting for this moment for the last seven exactly. I was like, I'm writing a song with my little This

is like the dream for me. And he's like barely stopped being such a dark I'm going to make you leave the room like it's just it's just so touching. I never thought I'd get to create with my sibling, Like who gets to do this? Um? But yeah, we started building a track together and I got him a mic for Christmas so that when I go home, like we can make like work tapes together and it's fun. So I mean, he's probably just gonna rule the world. So they moved back. You say, how long do you

live in town? Um? I think, okay, so I've probably been here like a year here almost a year and a half now right now or at the point where they move now, ok, right now? Yeah? Um, And they weren't even here a year. I want to say, I've been on my own for eight months, so they were

here for maybe like half a year a little bit more. Um, and they I think it's just like I got, I got my feet on the ground and kind of got this really awesome team around me quicker than myself for anyone thought that I was going to um once the like record label process started, Uh, it went, it went.

It all went pretty fast from there as far as getting my team around me, and I had my routine and they were still kind of struggling to put roots down and like figure out like they were they were my team and they are, but they like they were taking me to meetings, making sure I was getting here on time, doing all this, and then kind of once I got my rhythm and it kind of became clear like that, they kind of did their part that they needed to do here and Washington is their home, and

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ballerina and the others a yoga instructor. But that's that's cool. Though you don't really want to live with musicians, you think it's so competitive. No, it's been really cool. It's like a it's been a very um kind of just

chill environment to decompress. When I get back from radio tour, from a ride or a meeting or whatever, to just go and like just be with people that aren't concerned with the same things that I have to be concerned with during the day and like it's also fun because like you meet other musicians, are other people who are working in the industry, and like everyone's kind of used to it to some degree. Like I think it's all it's all really exciting for me, but everyone's kind of like,

well yeah, but people know I'm just kidding. Everyone's really excited about you, um anyone anything else though, Um it's so it's cool for me to like go like go home and like tell my roommates like I'm going on tour with Dan and Shay, I'm on the Bobby Bone Show.

I just wrote a song, and they're like, no way where I feel like everyone else, like even when things are exciting, like the people other people who are like musicians or whatever, like it's almost natural just want to play play down your excitement almost and just be like oh yeah, well, like I'm probably gonna do that at some point too. So it's fine for a couple of reasons.

One because you don't want to seem like you're cooler than they are in your mind, and too there they don't want you to be cooler than they are, like the competitive place it is it is, and it I feel like, um for me, like in the last like a year and a half that I've been in Nashville, I found that, like my musicianship especially has improved more than it ever has before, just because it is still competitive, and I think it's it's one of the one of the few places in the world where, like, at least

being me, you can walk into any room and know that they're probably a better musician than you are in there. And so I think that can either kind of squash someone or you can use it as motivation to just get better and rise to the occasion. Do you And you may not, and it may take a bit, but do you realize how uncommon your story is? Um? Yeah, it's it. It occurs to me more and more as I go on just getting a deal, like you're on, You're on, You're on a real life, really well run label,

And I wonder how that process happens. So how did you You're on Warner Brothers? Yes, and so how did that happen? Um? Well, so my deal is it's a it's a joint venture between Warner Brothers and Three Records in New York. And um, I said, Warners handling most of it right now. But they're they're doing a partnership. And uh, I say that because it started with my publishers took a trip to New York and they it wasn't about me, it was that they were they are

my team since I was fifteen. They they developed me, uh, set up, set up on my co writs and like they were kind of all I had at that point. But they weren't traveling to New York about me. They were going to like pitch songs to labels that were

looking for songs for their artists. Um. And they went into three hundred Records and they um, they like played the song, didn't really connect, but like they were getting along with the person they were meeting with, and they they they were like, well, like what are you excited about right now? Like what else are you working on?

And they played them on it, which was one of the few songs I had produced at that point, and they loved it and a couple a couple of days later, the A and rc I flew down and met with me, offered me a deal and then uh then uh, interest from labels in Nashville followed, and I um, I felt really at home in New York with three hundred I got to fly down and meet all of them. But I wanted to have a home in Nashville, and I got that same feeling when I met with Warner. And

then the rest is history. The rest happen. The rest is happening. Yeah, I know that's true. You talk about radio tour and so, I mean you're still a super new artist. Um, So what you do when you're a

new artist is it. It's called radio tour where you just go and every radio station in the planet and you have to be in a great mood and you have to take your guitar and singing conference rooms and you know, any sort of Hey, I'm really cool, and Nashville goes away when you have to go to Iowa for seven sales people completely, Yeah, And so it takes you back down and that's good for a lot of people, but it's it's exhausting. It's a it's a lot of travels.

Talk about radio to Yeah, I mean for me, Um, like I was visiting like three or four radio stations a day, which is which, as I've been told, is not even as bad as Radio Toork can get. As far as like full schedule. I was like dying in the car the other day I just finished up my eighth week, my last week. Um, I was dying in the car, just like yawning, falling asleep, trying to stay away, could like hide myself up for the next station. And um my regional who I was she was like, man, like,

you don't even have the worst of it. Like I was out with so and so last week and we were hitting like five six stations a day and then a dinner and then a show at night, and I was like, oh my god, like, I don't know. I think I think for me it's been it's been good in the way that I didn't even really get a chance to build up a ton of credit Nashville before going on radio tour. So it's like, Hi, I'm not very cool in Nashville. I'm not very cool here, but

maybe you'll listen to my music. Um, And it's the downside has been I went from making YouTube covers and playing on the sidewalk to five radio stations a day and a conference room and a meet and greet and this, and it's I think I think that's what made it extra tiring for me, just because it's even if I it's not the worst schedule, it was like, this is this is a whole different, really world experience. It's it's just so different than anything I'd ever been a part

of involving my music. But um, it's it's like you're running for office completely. You have a song and you would like people to listen to the song. You must run for office to every station manager, every town that you go to. And if you do one and they have two stations, you got to go to both of them. Yeah. Ye, So take me through a day. Take me through a

Tuesday on a radio tour. Tuesday on a radio tour, probably like a nine am lobby call if I'm averaging out, like when I have to be in the hotel lobby to leave. It. Would play many morning shows on radio tour. I didn't do too many, not yet. One day not big enough for the morning show. I did one little one my first week, and I I learned from my mistake, you need to warm up double because, like I know,

your voice is scratching in the morning. I warmed up and I was like fighting a cold voice tracked in the middle of the first song. So I don't know if maybe the fact that I didn't do any morning shows after that has to do with that. But it's gonna um if anyone, if anyone who wants to have me on the morning shows listening to this, I learned my lesson. I sound great now when you did our show, we taped it at night because I'm such a giver. You are so generous, like I will come up. I

want you to sound great. We're gonna do in the evening. Really appreciate that it was very mediocre. I was really happy with yea perfectly it was. It was yeah, really find what I was going for. That's really what I was trying. I don't I don't want to impress anyone too much. Not trying to intimidate any right now, you get so intimidated eighteen year old girls, I'm like, dangn So you go. Okay, So Tuesday, nine o'clock, the lobby call, You're down in the lobby. Yeah, down to the lobby. UM,

go to the first station you walk in. It's it's anywhere from I feel like there's there's typically two scenarios, and it's either like you and like two people like the p D and someone else and sitting in the office or conference room and you're playing for them, or and it's more of like I like to make those situations like it's just a conversation because another part of going from the sidewalk to radio tour, I don't know how to really stage something or like it's it's just

more like quote, we're gonna talk and I'm gonna play my songs for you, um or it's um they have the performance room and I'm playing for like some want some listeners. That which that was. That was a trippy part for me because I was like, wait, they knew who they were entering to come see, Like they knew it was gonna be me, whether or not they like knew about me before they knew what they were getting into, and they like chose to show up to hear me. He felt like it was weird that people came to

see you. I felt yes, like I wanted to ask them. I was like, so, really, why are you here? Like really who put you? Like? How did you hear the room? What was the did they did they pay you? Am I paying you? And I don't know about it? Like

things like that. But that was always fun because I got to I got to meet people and connect with the just like the actual audience and that was so I it was exhausting, but like this like my honest answer whenever anyone asked me, like because because the radio people will be like, so, like you're probably exhausted, right, like you hate this, And I was like, I sleep in the car, um, but I feel like if I have to be exhausted doing anything, like this is what

I want to be exhausted doing. I mean, I get to go in and play my songs and talk about them. So you may say nine o'clock you go to radio station. How long are you there for the first station? Um, usually anywhere from like m M. I want to say, forty five minutes to an hour and a half. Okay, it's not eleven o'clock. What do you do now? Maybe

go get lunch if there's time. I stopped at Starbucks like literally four times a day because that Starbucks is the only place that's like everywhere, and I'm just like addicted to it. Probably stop at Starbucks next day, spend forty five minutes to an hour there, and you gotta be up again, like it's the first time. You gotta be like exactly, yeah, exactly, like the first season of the day. I usually warm up in the car and like I try and like talk to my regional about like, so,

how do you think that went? Like what can I do better next time? Um? And then do it again. Then go to Starbucks again. Psych yourself up. I was really I was. I was really caffeinated. I'm not gonna lie. Um, but they're like, oh man, this Bailey chick has a lot of energy, not normally. I just was on my fourth cup of coffee. But yeah, then do it again.

It's I mean, it's it's definitely repetitive. My if my voice wasn't too tired, my last stasue and the day was usually my best, just because like I'm finally getting comfortable with the with the whole thing. Could you feel some that liked it and some that faked like they were liking it? Could you tell the difference? Um? Yeah, I had a few. I Um, okay, this this is either going to sound like I'm really unaware or as long as you're honest, it doesn't matter how you sound. Yeah,

I think I think. Um more so, I got I feel like I got people like trying to pretend they didn't like it, Like whether you know you meet people in days in the format you're not supposed to like a song that might sound a little bit poppy. Yeah, I think that might. That might have been that That was probably part of it. And then just just sometimes you meet people that want to want to seem like, want to show that they know more than you. And

I'm very like everybody. That's everybody, Yeah, that's every everybody in an industry like this thinks they know more than you. So my uh, the way that I try and deal with that is just make it very known when I walk into a room, I don't know anything. I know I know how to play music, and I know I want people to hear my songs, and I'm very very I'll let you know the things and I'll play the songs.

Did that stations we're threatened because you have a newer sound and maybe these people are have an older sound and they feel like the newer sound might actually push them out. Um like the radio at the people at the radio stations. I'll give you all reference to give references. When I came in, there was nobody like me, and it was terrible, really terrible, and it was miserable for

months and year a year and months. And because I think a lot of people felt like if I worked, that means in this moment what they did didn't work, and that wasn't the case at all, because there's room for everything. Because they thought, well, here's this guy. Doesn't wear a cowboy hat or a belt buckle. Okay, so Arkansas, but he loves hip hop. He's done pop radio for twelve thirteen years. He was a grunge kid. I mean I was, I was all of that, but I still

love country music, like that's how I grew up. And they felt like, well, if this is how that it's turning, then that's not me and that means I'm out, which is not the case. I mean, everybody's realizing that now. And I wonder if at all you felt like some people felt like that toward you. Yeah, I got that.

I definitely got that vibe. I feel like I feel like, yeah, I've gotten like nobody's I mean, I haven't gotten anyone being really mean to me or grilling me about it because like, I'm so cute and nice, I'm dude, probably yeah right, look at all the pictures on the plow. Thanks no, But like it's it's like then you hear back, It's like, oh, I thought like you you think someone's gonna play your song, and then the feedback is like, well, it's to your face, They're like, I love it, We're

gonna play a week later. It's like, you know what, I don't do well with that. It's kind of it's kind of playing into mine and everyone's biggest insecurity that like everyone secretly doesn't like you. Um, but I think, I think, I really, I really firmly believe that there just is room for everyone. I think that if everybody's music sounded like me, which I'm not trying to hide

the fact that it it is. It is slightly pop. I lean different directions, but I think if everybody sounded like me, then country music it wouldn't it wouldn't be what it is. But if everyone sounded like Garth Brooks and it would like the audience wouldn't be as diverse. And it's so it's I I have faith that it'll work because you and I both know that that I'm

delightful and no one can be mean to me. There's a story for you, and I completely agree with you because again I went through it to where it was like he's not one of us, and I kind of had to just weighed it out and prove because I was awful when I got here. I was like a bull in the china shop. I was like, screw everything, I'm just doing my way. I wish I wouldn't have been so that way. I wish I had have been

more like you, perfect, perfect, delightful, but I wasn't. And I came and I was like, I'm doing it my way. It only my way. But the format, I'll talk about that first. In general, the format is beginning to look like this. There are it's the countries beginning to be taught forty in the way of They're like four different kinds of country music. There's the really traditionals. There's the Justin Moore's and the William Michael Morrigan's. There's that, and

that has to exist, that absolutely has to exist. Then there's the more down the middle stuff with the Keith Urbans and the and then you can go to the left with the Sam's, and then you can go to the Kelsey's. And they're all these different little niches inside of a bigger format, and the best of all of them will rise to the top. The worst thing you can say to me and I GE's Mike. What I hate when people say I'm just like, you're out of your mind, because there is no that's in each country

and every time. And and my favorite reference, I was talking to Garth Brooks about this name dropped because I'm awesome, and so I was like, hey, they said, tell you you're not country names like BUTO told me I wasn't country, he said, he said, I moved to town and they

thought I was a joke because I wasn't country. But like he is, like now, not just in the way of like he sounds country, like he is, he is like the thing he's by the way, he's the highest selling artist in American history period, not country all together

like Garth Brooks's country. And so but even my groundwalk because I grew up in Arkansas and Johnny Cash is from Arkansas, and so she was really into Johnny Cash because when you're from a small town or from a state that doesn't have a lot of famous people from it, you really gravitate to those famous people. And she was like, I remember when people would come and pick it and say this is rock and roll, this isn't country, and it was Johnny Cash. But my point is you see

it every generation. It's so cyclical, and you know what's going to happen in fifteen years, Bailey, They're gonna look at you and go, Bailey, Then that's country. Whatever is this whatever this Cooper E. D M. Crap is that they're trying to make country. Yeah, like what is this country? And it's it's always going to be a thing. And if the format stayed exactly the same, this is what would happen. It would die off because the people that liked it would continue liking it, but nobody knew would

come along. Nobody knew in the form. I would die And the worst thing that could ever happen is that it stayed the same. And people don't like that, Like I want to say that, but it's but it's the It's redefinition is what growth is and what keeps things well. And I say it because I'm a genius and I'm genius like me, just like me, you should say that. This is why we're friends. So you come to town, you have a deal, you have was this going to be your single? Like forever? Was like yeah, like we

want to put the song out. Yeah, it kind of what we we threw some other things around, But I actually like, did you were you ever going to put borrow it? Is your song with your other single, borrow It. Borrow Oh yeah, there was rented, there was borrow it, but you didn't even like those you want those? Those seemed a bit wishy, washy rent. I'm trying to I'm trying to show everyone just my commitment to everything that I do. Sure you're nervous. Are you nervous about this?

I mean because now I own it. Just now it's like time, like you've had years. Now it's time. Like does it work? Is it? I mean, yeah, I think I am, especially now like the ad. The ad date was last Monday, and I think I'm definitely experiencing nerves

that I haven't experienced before. A date means for people listening to the podcast here UM radio stations all over the country add songs every week to the playlist, and when they add them first, they played the norl of the night and you have to slowly get climbed this terrible ladder and listen. I've been the biggest critic of radio from radio, which is a weird place to be UM. But so I have no idea how you did with your idea, I would expect that you did. Okay, yeah,

I wouldn't expect it. Again, I don't know how he did. I'm just gonna go from what I think I would expect. There are so many people to go. You know, I don't know about this. Yeah, it's probably Kelsey syndrome, where when Kelsey came out and everyone was like, you know, I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I think that's what it's what it's been. I think it was. It was a good start, is the response that I've tried

to gauge. Nobody. Nobody really wants to tell you how you actually did when it comes to things like that, because like do you know your number? They didn't know how many age you guys. I think they did. I don't retain numbers very well, retain words like good, all right, but slightly above average and so again, I don't know. I should have looked it up, but I would imagine it would have done all right, pretty good, That's what I would have imagine, um and but with a lot

of potential to grow. Because it's one of those songs everybody's like, it's it's not Traditionals are basically going to be like, we have to get this on the air. But you know what make songs get on the air, people buying them, people being exposed to them, the internet. Your music video, which I don't even see on TV. It's a video I just hit a piece of online content.

But your your music video. It was cool because it was you can watch it on the cell on your phone, and it looked like it was like all the apps and stuff flying through shot vertically. Yeah, so then it's like it takes over your phone. My favorite thing is watching people watch it on their phone because there's always a moment of confusion. They're like, wait, you sent men? Wait, why am I getting Who's wait? Oh it's you? Oh and really my secret goal is just to confuse as

many people as possible. It's the only thing vertically I've ever watched that I was happy it was vertical. Usually, I like, why don't people turn their freaking phones to the sun. How many years have we been doing this that we're still shooting things like videos straight up and down? So what we thought? What are we talking about? Her? My blue apron? Let's talk about a blue apron for

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your tour coming up. You're in the class of which was I picked five artists, and I think, like man and like, I really see something there, um and that has to be the highlight of your life, like more than having a big brother, like more than moving about a big deal. Completely because they paid me to put you on the list, well I'll take it. Thanks for telling everyone. They actually didn't. Here's here's the true story. I have a friend. I was like, you need to

hear this Bailey girl. And I was like, oh, let me hear song. And so I don't listen to song as ever, but this is a really close friend of mine, and so I was like, oh and I heard. I was like, oh, she's she's good. A said, I'm doing this thing where I'm just bringing in brand new people there to be signed. It's just people that I think

are pretty good. And so I invited you have We had not met until then that day, Right, I wasn't planning on putting it on the list, but you came in and I'm gonna tell you what I really like about you in a second because it's only one thing, because the rest kind of annoying if it all sucks one quality. And so you came in and you played,

and I was like, Wow, she's really good. And so I was going through and I had like thirteen or fourteen because I was like, man, they can really pop. They can really pop. And I picked Luke Combs and in the past last year was like, I've had Marin and Kelsey and all Dominion like before they had their big hit. So I have to like do pretty good at this, So don't let me down. Yeah, I know, I have to live up to the list. Um, here's

what I liked about you most of all. First of all, you really can sing, and you can play what you have to in this town. That's the weird things you have to. When I was doing pop radio or sports radio or rock radio or polka, I talked done at all. You didn't have to, you didn't have to play. You could just fake it. And but here you have to play and you have to be good. And you came in and you played and you were good, and then

you played I Believe a Drake song. And what I liked about that was that you just didn't care like you just played a Drake song because that was who you were, and the best way to win and the most honest way to win is to be you, and you're gonna lose a lot being you, But when you finally do freaking win, it's because it was you who one, not because somebody was making you were told you or and the truth was too I was like, hey, tell Bailey to come in, but he have something else just

in case. Like, but but you came in. I was like, play the drag song because it was just who you were. You were wearing a chance hat, and I was like, you know what, I don't want to hold her back for me and who she is. I love the fact that she is who she is. Someone didn't say you're going into a country show, you need to play a part. If I could say, I think you owned it. I owned it. I did not rent it. Oh well, thank you.

I appreciate that. I that was a big deal to me, and there was such a big deal that I was like, I gotta put it in the class because she's good and I love the fact that she was just her. Oh thank you. I'm so glad it wasn't someone else, because if you would have come in and you would have acted like I have been like, Hi, y'all, what's up. I'm bailey. People do that? You think you're making a joke all the time. Do you know how many people

come in and you can see through it immediately. A lot of artists come in, they put on a little accent, they put on a little show, and you didn't. You didn't do that. But there's some really terrible ones. I can't. I think. I think I'm I'm happy that I got um, I mean, um, this is, this is. I never want to sound like I think that I have a lot of experience in anything, because on the whole, I am UM.

But but I had I mean, I had the three years just traveling to Nashville and writing, and I think I'm happy that I had that time to uh just figure out who I was. I guess without without really anybody's eyes on me, I was, I was my I was lucky to have my publishers uh developed me in a way that they were just like just just go in and like write what's on your heart, just like figure it out. And you you still walk into some rooms like in a co write and feel the pressure

to act a certain way. I'm like, okay, have I have to like, I don't have it. I don't have enough ballads right now, so I need to write a ballad. We need option for that, or I need to write an uptember where I can't write another love song or breakup song or whatever. Um And so you know, you know I did that. I had those days when I would walk into a co write and like try and fit into a box in it. I experienced in that that that never ever works for me. It's always a

crappy song if you do that. And I think I found that a lot of that type of situation. Um, it applies to things other than writing songs. Life life. It's like I'm talking to soccer teas right now, Mike drop, Except for the mics on a stands, it would be more like a mic, don't don't. I don't drop that one. Here's Bailey doing Drake on my show. I don't know how to talk to you. I don't know how to excuse your Okay, my friends always feel the need to

tell me things. It seems like they're just happier than us these days. These days, I don't know how to talk to you. I don't know how to be there when you need me. It feels that the only time you see me, it's good and you love it, and you should always play with you love people, and people are gonna tell you, and people are gonna tell you the other otherwise, Like you need to do this and do that, and if you just just stay true even though it sucks sometimes at least you can fail being you.

And then one year we're gonna talk. We'll talk before one year, but in a year we'll do this again. And I imagine we're gonna talk a lot next year anyway, but we'll do it again. You're gonna feel like you're a completely different person. Yeah, I believe that completely. And then in another year, you're gonna fel like the same thing with Kelsey, Like you know, I had new Kelsey before she signed a deal. She's a whole, she's a

completely different human. I mean, I'm a different human. So it's gonna be fun to watch you kind of grow because you're good. You are good. Thank you, You're actually you're really good. And I like it that you're nineteen now and just you're not letting people tell you who you need to be as a nineteen year old, and that's hard for a nineteen year old. Thank you, Thank you you lived a couple of lives beforehand and learned a little bit. I think. Yeah, I'm mean, the change

happens so quickly. It's cool. I mean, everybody just goes through growth in their life, like I mean, especially if you're nineteen and stuff. It's it's cool being a songwriter and experiencing growth because I haven't. I have it documented and the things that I've written and the the YouTube videos and the whatever. So it's it makes it makes it feel like even more time is passed almost because like since I've moved so like just so many things

have changed and I've I've learned better how to own it. Yep. I went, okay, well all right, can we say something else, Bobby, I'm starting to quote my song it happens. Who do you like right now? Who's who? What? What music? Do you? Let's do two different ways? Um, you can mention zero country artists? What do you like right now? Um? Well, I just no secret. I love chance to rapper Um Coloring Book. I could rap maybe most of that whole album. But let me one, just another day to pick up

on me, like, I don't hear any rabbits. Oh I didn't know if I supposed to yet when the fell Lily just another dad to pick up a mail shann all right and through the suits they'd be like, they go, what's you? But I don't know the worst of this party. You can't understand it. You are legitimate, you know, Oh this is my favorite. Do the same johns? No mind, you don't do the We don't do the same, do the same? Jack, don't more? She don't have the same way, No more, you don't do we don't do the same

john the same jack? No one. I think Chance wins the Grammy for Best New Artists. And I had Marina Kelsey and told them both after their face because they're gonna cut each other out. Yeah yeah, I get I can yet and what do I know? But it's gonna be tough. Nothing I think he had Mathematically, I think he has the best shot to win. And where the Grammys on Sunday so you can hear this after I could be a big idiot. Um I would go in order Chance, Maron chain Smokers, Kelsey and who's the other

and Anderson oh, he's not not hit time yet. Not he's not just I just heard of him. Yeah, and he's insane. He's insane, but he's he's not there yet. He will he will be so Okay, Well, I mean listen, I hope you do good, do good for me. I got a lot righting on you. Thank you, all right. I won't let you down already. I stole your teeth, so I kind of owe you. That's why everybody listening you can download, own it, bring it back, bring it back while, bring your back. Wait, what don't forget the

happy thoughts? All you need is happy thoughts? The tens tense passed that time? Wait back then, when everything we read was real and everything we said right? Why did eye kids being kids? Why did you stop? What did you do to your head? Why did you go up right back here? When did you start to forget? Flag? That's good. You're funny. You're funny. You're funny like at one point, I guess, man, it's been eight or nine years ago. I signed a hip hop record deal. You

did like as a rapper? No? I signed as a drummer. Yes, a rapper. I can see how that was not a good question. No, story. You tell her my name captain captain Caucasian? Are you serious? Did you have a nickname that was that was my nickname? I mean like but like that's kind of a long name. No, it's not not whenever changed in Caucasian. Yeah, the captains here. Well, will you spit something? All right? I moved away. I'm country now, I'm country, weird country. This is Bailey and

Bobby a weird country. Yeah I did. I did a whole whole deal. I still bust out some stuff a little bit. I would love to hear it something. This a little song I wrote called No Problem. That is my favorite. I know you wrote it makes sense, makes sense, that's that's you. You know this? Yeah? I know him and him and Drake. I don't know. All right, Uh, well here's the Slayers own it. Hope everybody out there downloads it. What they say, I never listened away? Good? Yeah? Cool?

Let you. That's a good first song for you because it's really it's just you. It is you, Thank you, Thank you. Should be out with Dan and Set. You can be hear this in six months and this whole tour could be over and Bailey could be back and watch it. I don't know what's good, but like be here it soon she'll be out with Dan and Ship. Definitely. I'm gonna bring you out to do some shows with us too. With regging it. I would love to just

wait for it. Those are real crowd, these guys, they go past all right, Bailey, my own on Twitter and Instagram and obviously I'm a fan. Just remember me when you blow up and get famous. I'll try. I just remember Billy Jones, the guy, Billy Jones, the guy Captain Caucasian, don't think Caucasian. Yeah, alright, we're gonna go now, all right, thank you might have another one or no, I'm not good. I'm good, alright, Bailey Brian Episode thirty five of The

Bobby Cast. Thanks to our sponsors Sherry's, Berry's and Blue Apron. Download own it and your population with six thousand, six d and six Oh you know that where I grew up. Oh that's more than I thought spread out. Maybe I need to start saying I'm from a medium town. No, that's still a small tom My population though, because I keep my roads A picture of my roads on where I grew up my living room. See, all right, well

you win. I just want to go out and on top just pile it on, all right, Thank you all, to see you next time. Goodbye five