#64 - Shania Twain Interview: Behind the Scenes

are you looking at me? Funn You don't I tell people that in the star were ringing the studio right now, we have a whole I have a whole talk with the Bobby Cast listeners, like they know the inner workings, the inner the inner working. Yeah. So what I wanted to do is play back the entire shan I interview unedited wow in one pieces, like over twenty minutes. Yeah, no edits, no songs, no times for commercials, just all of it together. Love it and shocked by this. I

don't know. I mean this is you haven't done something like this before I talked to you. Don't listen to the Bobby Cast. No, you have not done something like this like playing back the entire interview from when we had Okay, you're right, all right, you there, we go. Here's the whole all right, So here's the whole shing I Interview. First, I'm gonna tell you about whag real quick. So if you're like me and you have a dog, you probably love your dog. You probably spend money on

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are you? I'm great? Everybody's so nervous. Why every so nervous? Twayne? Do you get that? A lot of it's like it's yourn I I get nervous. What are you talking about? I'm not. I know the feeling, man, it's what. It's really nice to meet you. Thank you. We were sitting beside each other at the hockey game the other night because we're I guess you'd come right into town. Pread's night when the press are playing. Ye, so are you a huge hockey fans? It's your Canadian because my girlfriend's Canadian.

That's our sport. It's it's in my blood. Yeah, I grew up with it. It's our national sport. You know the rules though, well sure, I mean I never played hockey. I'm not like an ext it on the rules. But yeah, I know when someone's offside, and I know all the um, you know all the all. You know, I understand the

penalties and all that sort of stuff. And you know, I'm a I can be a rowdy fan, um, And there's nothing worse than, like, you know, standing up and making it full of yourself, screaming at the ref or bad call and being the only one that's doing it. So you kind of get you want to make sure you know what you're talking about a little bit when you're Canadian hockey fan, um, because we can get pretty rowdy out there, you know, the fans. I have no idea.

I just watched the people to wear the same color I'm wearing. When they cheer, I cheer. That's how I know when it's time that well. So, I mean, you have this new song here, and you know I was out at stage coach whenever you played because and so I got to hear it the first time. I'm gonna play some of this. This is life's about to get good. I get you with the new song here and it's good. So so what are you what's in your mind right now? So here you are? You're back? Like, do you feel

like there's a pressure to it? Yeah, but I'm cheered up, you know. I listened to the song and it cheers me up, you know, makes it puts me in a good spirit and really does for me what you know the song did for me when I wrote it. You know, it just picked me up. And so it's getting after a really good start in enjoying the process again, you know, jumping in and feeling happy to be here again and grateful and in a good spirit about about you know,

life and career and trying to do it all. Um, there's just so many challenges in coming back to something you haven't done in a long time. So yeah, the song makes me feel like I'm ready and happy and feeling good. How do you pick a comeback song? Because I'm sure you have lots of songs, I mean you you got a bunch of songs, Jeff, how do you see? And I just want to get it? So how do you pick? Say? Uh, well, this song really does tell it's got a very melancholy story. On the one hand,

you know, I wasn't just broken. I was shattered, are the first words. And it's just it's all about betrayal and and all that, you know, all that bad stuff, but it's also about seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. And the song opens up. I mean it's it's got this really bouncy music to it with this melancholy story, and it's I chose it because it tells the truth about where I've been in the transition and where I am now with it. Um And I wrote,

you know what, writing is very cathartic for me. I I this is a good example as a song that I've written that that is truly about me and my life and and what music does for me. It pulls me out of my slumps. I want to it right now. I'm gona play the whole thing here. It's World Premier day. Shania Twains here, so I'm gonna play live. It's about to get good. It's the world premiere. We're gonna come back in just one second with with more Shanaia right here,

all right, Shania Twain is here. Oh so tip, don't leave your water bottle in here because someone will grab it and sell it. They like when you when you're really famous, like you do, you have to worry about things like that, like you have someone that's always watching you, like don't leave forks or tip the proper amount? Do you worry about that kind of stuff. I do not

overthink fame. It's just life's too short. Like if a valet takes your car, are you like, oh, for sure, they just told somebody to day valet Shanai and I only tipped them twenty bucks? No? No, I mean I just don't think about those things. You know. I forget who I am most of the time. That's what I really prefer to do. Um. I just go about life and until somebody reminds me of who I am, I

forget who I'm gonna like it twin. We haven't told you f I. So you know, you have this entire class of female artists and these here, and you know, the last five, six, seven years, you're like what they grew up listening to. I mean, you're what they admire. And I was like doing. You brought at Kelsey Ballerina, who were very close to and you got staying together. We were in California and for her that that's like a life changing thing even for me, like you're what

I listened to on the radio. It's it's like a flashback for me. You know, um years ago in concert, I had so many little kids at the shows. And then I just never even imagined or projected myself into the future, thinking that one day, um, they're going to be the you know, kids in their twenties at my shows. Um. Sometimes they're still there with their parents. You know. You see the two generations together. And sometimes it's just the group of college kids coming together the party and it's

and they'll say, oh, you were my first concert. I'm like, I'm thinking, wow, okay, you're you're an adult. How is that possible? Um? So yeah, I know it's true. It's this whole generation of college kids, um that went to my shows when they were little or you know, listen to my song from the car Seaton back. You know. I want to ask you about this. I remember reading when you had vocal cords the issue. Yeah, I guess I was in college. Right after college. What happened? So

what happened your vocal cords? Because you have surgery right Like, no, you can't, this is not you can't. I can't repair it with surgery. So it's still a thing. It's an atrophy thing. Yeah. Yeah, I was tick. I had lives Sussies. I got hit by a tick and wow that major vocal cords bad. Yep, it's it's um. You know, lives

sudies can really get to your neurological system. And it's I don't make a long story short, and all the testing that I did, UM finally because the vocal cords look normal from in a regular UM exam, but um, I I've got slight atrophy on both chords. Um. The nerves are damaged in there, and so I had to get five long needles. You get five long needles into your larynx and then they read your your nerve um activity. Yeah that's what that's what um. Yeah, And so I've

got a bit of extra on both sides. And it's it's really really makes it really tough. I've I do a lot of vocal physiotherapy basically, so that's a lot of warm up. Then before you go out. Well, I'm trying to get the warm up down right now. I need about an hour and a half to warm up, and I can't do any spontaneous singing like if I if I was this thing like right now, I would

sound like a din and cow. I really need to And that's really a bummer for me because sometimes I'm in a club or whatever and I feel like, you know, I just want to get up and see where I wanted to do karaoke and you know, get into the whole thing. But I could really damage myself if I did that, so um, and I don't want to damage myself. I don't have nodules or anything that you know, the typical sing or something. This is from a lime Lime's disease.

It's a nerve damage and it's really a bumber. I'm stuck with it for the rest of my life. But so it just takes a lot of work. It's like

a permanent injury. Yeah, it's gonna be weird to just even singing knowing you have because I have a lot of friends and professional athletes and like they've they've torn muscles, heart, but they say even the mental part of it is so hard because they don't even want to press on it because they're like, what if even though they've done all the problems, but if it gives out and it is like that, like if I don't warm up and really prepare it is I always do refer to it

like a knee, like a bad knee. Um. And you never know when that he's going to give out on you. And that happens to me when I'm singing. Um, Like I wouldn't be able to be an opera singer for example, because you know, but because I'm running around and I'm I can add live and I can, I can, I can work with it, I can, I can manage it. Um. And I'm just so determined, Like I couldn't sing for a long long time and I could barely yell out for my dogs. It's really really because the air escapes

from the you know, it's very technical. Um. But I was just really determined to get to the bottom of it and find out what I could do about it. And little by little I realized that I could do this, I could do it again, and UM, so now I'm not going to give up. Now. You know, it takes a lot of work. I have to say, it's a lot of work, and I do get to you know, scourage some days, like an athlete with an injury. Um, you do worry, is that is it going to give out on me? When I'm on stage. Is it gonna

Is it gonna be there for me when I need it? Um? But I feel really good just talking about it too. That helps me psychologically with it, and I accept it. It's just part of who I am. Now. I want to ask you about people crying? Could I make people they meet you they cry all the time? And how do they How do you get used to people crying when they meet you because you're royalty inside of our format,

your royalty. Well, you know, my mother used to always cry whenever I would sing every time at kitchen table, A good cry, like mom, you know. Like so I would say, at the kitchen table, I play our a new song that I wrote. You know, I'm like ten or something. You know, she cried, and then you know, I'm on stage, I sing a song. She cries. We're at a house party somewhere, sing a song. She cries.

I mean, she would always cry. She was always very emotional about I don't know what what it was, whether you know, and what does do all mothers do that, like cry all the time when their child performs. I don't know, but my mother always did, and so I'm used to it, and I appreciate. I learned to appreciate it at the time as a kid, I'm like, oh, mom, come on, and you've heard me sing a million times,

you know. But I've really learned to appreciate the connection with people and what and what any emotion said it's to something people. I want to play a clip here. These are people that have all covered you. It's gonna be tough. See if you can tell who this is. You're all very famous singers. Go see if you can tell who's covering you. Okay, clip number one, here you go. That's Miranda Lambert. Oh it's Carrie. Yeah. Okay, it's so easy. Once you're told, you can hear it. Alright, try another one,

Sha Twin in studio. Dang it, you stumped me on that. I hate that name the artist it's covering you. Number two, that's it's just that I don't know. It was the southern I don't know. They both have that southern thing. O. All, here we go, try this on my ears something never mind my voice. Name the cover Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Clarkson, quick, that was quick. Okay, she's loosening. It's impressive. Okay, we'll go to the dude. Okay, of course I know who

this is. I'm joining the blame. I know the voice, and i've the name's leaving me. Oh that's nice. I like you, Luke Brian, thank you. Yeah, and audios obviously fantastic too. I think I've recorded that from their sock cell phone. Really. Yeah, that's got a cool scratchiness to it. I'm go, way to go, Luke. That was good to give you one more about another dude. No, I'm gonna keep d Yeah. A lady dude, no, lady. That's what I am. In my family, I'm a lady dude. Why

is that? I don't know, because they're always calling each other dude and I I guess they thought I was feeling left out. So my son's like, you're a lady dude, mom, and I do all the lady dude things. I mean, I play street hockey with them, I play basketball, I play soccer. I'm a lady dude, I think, are you kid? Yeah, so I'm one of the dudes because you know he's cool? Eyes like, does he know you're cool? Does he know you're like? I don't know if he would go so

far as saying I'm cool. Um, he's he's a big support or big cheerleader of mine, and he's really but you know, he doesn't really get into the whole fame thing. I'm just mom. Yeah. Yeah. And are his friends like your mom, Shania Twain. Yeah, they kind of are a little bit, not not all of them, they're kind of they're really supportive, you know, supportive as well. Um that that's his life and that's his world. Um. But I think the cool part is more that I'm I think

maybe I'm a cool mom. Um. I don't think that anything has anything to do you know, all that aside, you'd still be a good mom. I'm not really sure how cool he thinks that the friends ever ask you to sing at the wedding, because I always feel like that would be really awkward, like if someone's your friend, Like no, you know, um, they they have you know, I done that. I know I know I have done that,

but never like not in like a band setting. You know, I'll just like get up and do a little a few lines of something, you know, just to to do it. But yeah, no, that does happen. The karaoke is the worst. The pressure on you to go anywhere where anybody's singing because everyone's like if she's going to get up and sing, But now I can't do that, even if I wanted

to that. That is kind of a bummer. Um but yeah, you know, because I got to warm up, I just can't get out up there, and like, you know, do it. I want to know about this new music. So, I mean, you have a whole record, it's going to come out. So how many songs we're putting on this thing? I recorded twenty one? Um, it was very hard to bring it down, and sometimes I regret bringing it down to sixteen. But you know, I'm ready to get back to the studio and make another album. So well that head start.

You're ready to make another album, I am. I've got so many songs in there in my head, you know, in my heart. Um, but yeah, there's sixteen on this one, and um, I'm excited for more to hear it. So today's the world premier day if you missed it. And she and I have been here for a while. Here, she has a song. Here, life's about to get good. We're playing it all day today. So what are we thinking? Like when's the record coming out? Like all I see her vague times and like late summer, early fall. It

is like, well, it's mid falls September. Um, I think the exact date is the twenty nine. Are you giving us an exact month day, September twenty nine. Yeah. Yeah, I'm planning on stick and do it. Dang yeah, and you out playing, that's all you're saying. I was like, dang that it was really good. Nick Jonas up there with you too, I know, it was like, yeah, I was on the side. I was like that, that's the group, man,

that's those they were kids, you know. When I was do when my man, I felt like a woman thing. What is your amy? What's your song? When you think of what's your song? Who's bet of your bitsfen under? And that's the first thing just my head. So yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I wrote that in a little bush cabin in Canada. Buy my wood stove. Really yeah yourself? Well, I wrote it, and then I wrote that before I met Um, and then when we met that was one of the songs I pulled out of my hat and

Um and then we finished it together. I don't really even remember what we did collaboratively on that, but everything in the hat at that point, you know, once we were collaborating a songwriter. So what is your quintessential Nationville story? Because you hear you know, I did a hundred stories about you now, like you just pack up moved down. I did. I literally drove here from Timmins, Uh, put everything in the back of my Jimmy that was my vehicle at the time, and loaded that up with everything

I could possibly put in there laundry basket. I mean everything. I mean I was. I had no money and I just drove the the three days um to Nashville, and I think I got a little bit of cash from the label. I got a put a you know, first and last month's rent um on an apartment in Brentwood. And here I was, did you were you famous in Canada already before you came down, Like, did you have a bunch of Canadian money like Loony's Oh she had no money? No? No, I had no money. I had

no record, No, no, my my record. I was signed to Nashville, not Canada. Um I didn't have a record deal in Canada. I had never released a record in Canada. I was still a stage singer, a club singer, singer, songwriter. Um so I went straight from that two Nashville and how long until you hit you moved here, and then how long until you had your first big hit? Because people think people just move and go, snap, there's a hit. I did very fast on you know. Um it was

like a year. Wow. Yeah, didn't sweep you up like whoa, whoa, whoa before before you kind of realized what was going on, you were a star. I mean I was so ready for it, because first of all, I was already by the time I was really what you would consider famous. I was thirty. I wasn't young. I mean I spent my whole youth preparing for that. So it's not like all of a sudden I was, you know, twenty two and famous I was. I was thirty. I um, you know, I guess I'm I don't know. I mean, I didn't

have any recording experience. I didn't have any fame experience, but I had spent my whole childhood and all of that, all of my twenties working toward it. Um, you know, singing in bars and at any time type of show that I could get into, festivals, writing, writing, writing, writing, writing, I mean I really, you know, I wrote all the time, you know, by my self I was just a sol writer. So by the time I made it, I was so ready.

I mean, by the time I met Mud and made that first record with him, I had a whole stache of songs and it went very fast that record. You know, I think my song is honey I'm Home, like when I think, I just like I just love the paste. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah that's a rock and it's a rocking country song. Right, it's got a cool groove. Were you told you're not country like everybody's told? Now? Sure I was, um, but I didn't know what it was good for me that. I really didn't know that

that would be the case. I didn't really know what the definition was or what was considered the definition of country, because I grew up listening to such a I think, a different country than um the country that maybe you guys grew up here in the US. Two Because in Canada we had you know, we had Gordon Life, We had a lot of folk singers, a lot of folk artists that were considered country. Um, so my country was a lot of uh, you know, Joni Mitchell, Uh, you know,

Jim Crochet to me was country. The Carpenters were considered country to me, Willie Nelson and Chris Christofferson and even Elvis, you know, so it was kind of odd that I I sort of thought I felt like I fit into that scope of the more soul folk type country. And of course, you know, my youth was eighties rock, so that was always in me anyway too. Um, and that that's how the music came out. I think in the end, uh that hybrid. Well, congratulations, I'm really it's it's really

cold to see you. We're all big fans. Yeah, it's really cool to have people in that were like super human fans of so yeah and everybody playing it cool though we've kept yeah yeah, but we can help scaring out. Okay, we finally got our Yes, thank you so much. Congratulations on the song and I can't wait to hear the whole record. And it's awesome. The medium. What's great to meet YouTube. I know, this is really really cool. I've

I've enjoyed the visit. Everybody clap your hands, yeah, show all right, there was That was a full uninterrupted SNAI twin segment um. It ran over two days and there you go behind the scenes the whole thing. All everything feel good about that. Yeah, yes, which differ than the Shia thon which I have at home too. It's funny. Thank you all right, quick dude, you can have that quick. I mean people think we like plan stuff out that I don't think. I don't think they think we did anything.

I get emails like do you all the script? I'm like, have you listen to our show Mike websites before special edition? Thank you very much, and uh, we'll see you soon, coming up soon, Cole Swindow, get more caring, fair child, I'll come by the house. Wow. Yeah, we don't try to layer it like that, but everybody's beating the door down to come talk about music. I know. Thank you. We'll see you next time. By