#299 - On Time with Bobby Bones: Gary Levox On Why Rascal Flatts Called It Quits + His New Solo Album (Performance) + Lainey Wilson On Getting Recognized In Her Hometown + Live Performances! + Intro to "The Biztape

Flat stopping by. He's gonna play this song. We also have new artists Laney Wilson stopping by. She's gonna play some music too. She's also on the way to becoming a big old star. So we have music, we have guests. We're gonna play some games. You guys can also write questions in the box and I'll ask some of them too. So and if you're really lucky, I'll show you guys my third nipple. See you'll even learn some things about me.

But when we get to our guests, I was like to kick things off with the shortest monologue and all the land just wham bam, thank you for the question. Thank you for the joke. Man. It's three quick jokes. We've appropately titled three jokes for the folks. Here we go home. Joke number one, Scientists are warning us that it's time to bust out the year plugs, as trillions of cicadas are emerging from their seventeen year long hibernation to mate seventeen years. That's not so bad, Listen, it's

been forty one for me. I haven't made it yet. You don't see me s forming all over the place. Sam saving that from a wedding night. It's just a sexy wink. Moving on to joke number two, it's being reported in Canada fans are being contacted by profiles pretending to be Chad Kroger, the lead singer of Nickelback. Some have said the fake profile has asked them for money

in the form of bitcoin or iTunes gift cards. As if Nickelback fans didn't have it roughen up already, wait till they realize it is actually Chad Kroger of Nickelback. That's right. And finally, joke number three, Target announced they will stop the sale of Pokemon cards after a man pulled a gun during a fight over trading cards in their parking lot. They described the event as the nerdiest felony in the history of American crime. He actually asked the police, can I my mommy come pick me up

from jail. Gotta love America, the only place where it's easy to buy a gun in the store but impossible to buy Pokemon cards. That's right. Hit that music there it is? Those are three jokes for the folks. Thank you very much. Is music still going? Or am I just making the music all right? Before we get to our first musical guest. Let me check in with my fiance Caitlin. That's right here she comes. You can follow

her on Instagram at kate cy Parker. And later I go check out our episode of running Wild with bear Grills that we did. She's gonna walk through that door at anytime. There she is. Thank you, Come on in, have a seat. Thank you. How are you pretty good? How how's your day been? And what did you do this after and in this afternoon? What time does that start? I don't know. It's a good question. The afternoon four five oh? I went to a spin class. How did

that five? Great? When we spin and I'm beside you. Do you watch how fast I'm going? Do you compare the output that you feel like you're putting out versus mine? Because I feel like you dominate me. I'll be honest, I feel like that as well, but I don't really watch you that much. Well, you're not doing the moves. I don't do the dance moves because I can't keep up right here, Here's what I've learned about this spin class.

I put my grind on too hard, and when I'm peddling hard, I can't do the dance moves with my arms on the right pace. And so as you guys are all nailing them, I'm off. But I'm still getting pretty your workout's choice there? How did interesting analogy? How did class go today? That's great? Yeah? Good instructor? High energy was packed and I got to ride next to someone I know. Should I like? It's fun? Did you see Gary l Box in the waiting room? I did, and I waved at him. I had to come in here.

I would have loved to stop buying and chatted for a bit, but um, I just got a quick wave in. And how did you get right in here? For my interview? She feel solid about the wave. I think he liked it, he smiled. Yeah, it was like, you know, it's awkward because you're like I think you probably know who I am like, but you just never know, so I didn't want to be too like he hung out at the house. He's a big star. He has a big star. Is there anything you want me to ask him when he

comes in? Any question? He's a big starme. You want to ask him off camera? Yeah? Something I'll text I'm on camera, I'll text it to you. Does it have to do with him being naked? No? Last night we watched our episode of Running Wild with Bear Girls, which people can still watch right now at National Geographic dot Com. How did you feel about your performance? My performance? Like how I did on camera? How you came off? He didn't love it. I mean, I just don't like to

watch myself, so I didn't love it. But I am very proud of myself for doing it. So I think those are two different things. How did I feel about my performance? How did I feel about what I accomplished? What was it like doing that episode? Awful? Scary, um, cold, scary, terrifying. It really wasn't fun right, No, there wasn't one bit of it that was fun. The only good thing about the actual time there was Bear because he is the greatest right in the moment, the only the only good

thing was there after it. It's all good, it's all fun, it's all great memory. Happy we did it. People loved it, though I felt there was a good spots. I guess, yeah, you were the star of the show, bell of the ball. It's not the star of the show in the parade. No, people just see you a lot and they don't see me a lot. So that's why I'm sure you're feeling that way. I loved it. I thought that I should have just been you next season you go alone. Oh

I don't want that because you really like Bear. No, No, I I don't want to go alone. But I I'm happy I did it. I'm happy that I stood up to a fear of mine. I was actually I'll just tell you story. Today. I was in spin and my instructor was talking about kind of how she started her spin class. And I know this is probably cliche, and we all know I'll know this saying, but she was saying, um, when you feel scared about something, just do it. Scared and that's what I want to do from now on.

I just want to do it scared, regardless of what it is. I don't need to work up courage to do it. I just need to do it scared. And that's what I did the whole time during Bear Girls. Sorry, I got distracted because Mike was taking a picture and I was like, oh, Mike, do you look at you? Oh? Good? Okay, So anyway, for any of you that are actually watching this, whatever you're thinking that you want to do, but you don't feel like you have the courage, and you're like,

maybe I'll have the courage in a week. Maybe I'll have the courage in a couple of weeks. You won't, So do it scared. That's okay. You don't have to have the courage. Sometimes you only get couraged by fighting through fear. Sure, yeah, thank you. Um. I like how you just addressed the camera, just you just totally take over and you turn right to the camera. Them Like, don't know if I could help anybody. My idea has written some questions for me to ask. Would you like

to answer them? What? I? Yeah? What kind of sleeper is Bobby? Um? A flailer? Elaborate that kind of a thing like that, or like I was talking your sleep, or you wake up and you request me to hug you. Sometimes I do that. I wake up and I'm like, I can't go to sleep, but you hug me. No, he goes like, he goes me. Mike's giggling. I do, and then she's big spoon and a little spoon. I don't care. It's the only way I get the only

way I get to sleep. I don't let her put her hand on my stomach though, or near my stomach, because I'm embarrassing my stomach because he has body dysmorphia and we're working through that. So she can put her arm over me, but it it has to be like up here. Yeah, it's got to be shoulder or like pit. Yeah and pit. That ends up not with a great smell in the morning on your hand. What song do you love to sing in the car? Me? What song do I love to sing in the car? Um? I'll tell you right now,

come on drives last as last. No, that's so two months ago, okay, if it was all right now? Well, my staple really is Adore You by Harry Styles. But Olivia Rodrigo actually has a new song out called good for you, and it's really good. Check it out. Did you ever consider changing your last name to bones even on Instagram? Not one time? And final question, what's the one thing you learned about Bobby in the last week? In the last week, Mike that stuff? What did I

learn about you in the last week? Um, that you are very willing to help me with wedding things such as meetings, if I will just ask you. Yeah, And we went to Crane Barrel and did some boop boop on the board where we went to register. But we're out of gifts at this point, like people have sucked them all and now my parents have nothing to get us, so we need to chill out on the details. But um, okay, thank you. Yeah, I was pretty good at the said right,

you were great? Yeah, scanned boo boops? Did you scan

your stuff? Mike? You did rettert online. She went back and did some registering online and as soon as we've finished, she went right to the registered and Eddie already bought us a juicer before we even got so generous, like the oh my gosh, wait time out, can you send me where you're like, we don't have a gift for you yet, because I've asked him to ask you, I know he hasn't, and I didn't want to ask Kelsey because I know she has like nine thousand things on

her plate. So can you send? All right there? She is my fiance and yours just just mine, Caitlin Parker. Everybody, thank you, thank you for always being our first guest. Only three more episodes to go by. Yeah we're doing it's a six pack. Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, you go over in the chat. We got a lot of people over here that are like, uh, is this where

Gary Lavox is gonna be on? It is momentarily. That's from Cat McQueen um kells Zack said, Gary put the wrong year all on Facebook, so people are going to something else. I don't know. All right, here we go. Let's welcome my first guest, well musical guest. He's the lead singer of Rascal Flats and will soon be releasing his first ever Christian solo album. He has the voice of an angel and the only guy know who works out in full camouflage. I've seen it with my own eyes.

Welcome to the show. Gary Levox, thank you, thank you. What do you what's in your hand? That's true. Did you did you grab it from out there? Really? I really did? Nice? Do me sign that for you? Yes, that's why I brought it nice nice Okay. Oh, by the way, Gary brought merch for me. They are what these are? There's a branded Lavox wear. Yea. He broke really struggling and you need to Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to with the Yeah, but these are. I do

love the logo. Thanks, Like what who designed this? He did? Yeah? I did. Really, Here's Freedom Farms. What's Spreedom Farms? That's that's my farm outside of Nashville. I will I will wear this black one. Yeah. Good, I brought him for you. You'll sell many and you'll be able to pay your mortgage, which is the goal. You're even wearing a wristband? Now? Why a wristband in the evening on a internet talk show? Well,

you know what? It just I know how you have to turn all the air conditioners off and it gets hot and so I adap okay, you know because you maybe we're makeup and things and it's like a dap I do okay. Um onto the real questions at hand. Here, Why a solo album and why a why did you start with a Christian album? Why a solo album? Because Jodan came to us one day and said that he wanted to be home war said he was burnt and he's burnt out? Are you serious? And so that kind

of we're like, okay, all right, we respect that. And so I had already kind of planned on doing one and didn't really know when it was gonna happen, because you know, Flats, we've been a thousand miles a minute for twenty years. And so when Jodon told us that, we're like, okay, well, that opens it up. And I always want to do a gospel record. I always did, and um it just all of it kind of came together and here we go. And then Friday at uh

it drops the EP drops. Were you shocked? And I do want to get to the peaks that heard a lot of it. Hecky played some unreleas stuff in my house like three months ago. So so so I've kind of, you know, been to the process. But were you Did you expect Jodan to come and be like, hey, guys,

we gotta take a break. No, I really didn't, I mean, you know, not really because it was that was year nineteen, and we had a lot of things booked for the twenty year and everything else with trying to put the farewell tour together, and we had a lot of things set up with, uh, you know, the Grammys and c m As and all this kind of kind of just celebrate the twenty years that we had together, you know, and all the accomplishments that we've done. And then the

pandemic hit. So no, it was kind of out of left field, and uh, you know, but what can you do? Did you and j Ever go, hey, we'll just do this as a duo? Was it even a conversation? It was a conversation. And but Joe j had started, uh that a little Christian label, the independent label called Red Street Records, and he wanted to make a go with that,

and I was like, well that's cool. So I was like, you know, I still I feel like my platform is the stage, and I still had so much music to make, and so I just stayed on my artists route, and I mean, it's stick with what you're good at, and that's what I wanted to do. And did you feel like you needed a break for a bit though after this, where you like, I need to just kind of recalibrate. I did not expect this. I spent the last twenty years being a flat Did you have any nights we

are like wait, what is about to happen? Or were you like, Okay, this actually gives me an opportunity to go chase this solo record. It was both. Actually it was kind of it was sad, it was disheartening, it was exciting, it was you know, it was kind of everything at once because everything I've known for half of my life is now going to be changed and can

gonna be different. So but it gave me, you know, it gave me the time to to really lock in and um, you know, not only did I do a gospel record, but I already recorded a solo country record that comes out in the fall. So I just gave it. I just kind of just threw myself into my music and just let it be. Let you know, you gotta play the hands that are dealt sometimes. So the record comes out Friday. It's called One on One? Why why

one on one? Well, it's kind of I think, just me doing a gospel record, just me and my my my faith walk with the Lord. And it's the first time that it's just been me. I mean, I've been the face of Flats for twenty years and now it's just one on one, me and him and me and the fans. So just kind of made sense. Do you plan to go out and play any of these songs live? Yeah? Yeah, I'll be doing all the flat stuff. And that's the question, right, So you're gonna sing the flat stuff? I think you should.

I think if I went out, I'd want to hear some of the new stuff. But if I'm going to see, you know, the face of the Flats, dang it sing the flats. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. So what do you do as far as a band? You just get your buddies that know of the songs. No, it's it's actually the same. It's it's actually all the Rascal Flats band, Jim Riley, it's my drummer, Travis Toyo plays steel and

everything else. He's still with me, and so it's the actual the actual Flatspan just minus Jane Jodan gotta do bass player and um, you know my keyboard players sings all the hot stuff to it on sing and so

it's the same band, just minus Jane general. I mean we'd really get the full experience if you kind of dressed them up to look like them and we know they're not, but you know you still like color, the hair, you know, maybe even throw them back to old school one night Jo, you know he had the long yeah, I mean, no sleeves. Yeah, just just maybe just a vest. But yeah, yeah, because when you look back, I was

looking at the multiple pictures of you guys. I mean, you guys were now it's normal, but style wise, you were extremely different than the format. Were you guys getting a lot of the pushback from the old school Nashville folks at the time. Yeah, I mean I think everything anything new and country, I think you always do. Plus we came in at the tail into the whole boy band thing and so all that kind of played into it. But you know, I mean we're sitting there like, you

know what we're not. We're not cowboys, you know, I mean we live that lifestyle, you know. I mean, I'm his country as corn breads with which is crazy because you are. But I mean you Gary legitimately is significantly more country. And it's usually the opposite, right, people will come and act a little show a little more country than they really are. It's like you're the opposite. Like you come out, you're straight ahead, jel, you put that

your hair product in, you sing. But when we're done here, he's in Camo and he's like, hey, man, come out to the farm. And I'm like, that's an hour and a half away. He's like, no man would have sit on the porch and like spitting cows. And I'm like, what's what are you? What are you talking about? Your getting the box? So, but you do live and you hunt constantly. Yeah, I mean it's just the way I grew up. But you know, it's it's like they're but it's just who I am. You know, I just gotta

be real to who you are. And you know, but it's like I've never wrote it, Calf, you know, I saw it while I'm not gonna sit out and put a cowboy hat on and try to play up to something that I'm not. You know. So I wasn't here in Nashville when you guys broke and when you guys were winning the it's the Grammys, Like I wasn't here and I was actually, I mean probably twenties and we would watch on TV. It was a fan and we would start to play. I was working in Pop Radio

two at the time. We're playing some of your stuff over there, So I'm I missed the impact you guys had on Nashville. Were you guys king dingling of the talent for a while? It? For yeah, we really had just kind of held the torchs for yeah. I mean a long time. Really. I mean it's I mean, two thousand and six, we outsold everybody in the world that put a record out in any genre music, you know.

So and I remember being at the Grammy's up against Beyonce and Mary J. Blige and Kanye and jay Z, and we're like, it doesn't matter if we win or not. We outsold everybody in this room. That's you can't even fathom that kind of stuff. So, I mean, we had a you know, I mean, it's made the Guinness Book with you know, seven consecutive c M a vocal group. I mean, all that stuff is just mind blowing. We had the We're kind of top dog there for a

minute for sure. Were you in Entertainer of the Year member, which which is crazy to me because I was gonna let you answer no, because I knew the answer. I looked it up. The fact that you weren't allowed or they didn't put you in that when you were the actual entertainers of not just country music, but you said it.

You're out telling everybody. I think even as the success was happening, I still would have had some sort of resentment, like, hey, why aren't you guys putting us because we're not when Cowboy has? Is that why we're upset about it? We were?

We thought it was well deserved. I mean it's like, you know, we're the first band to ever play Wrigley Field, first country concert to ever play Wrigley I mean at that time, it's like we've sold out four different tours at Madison Square Garden, and hey, we were doing big stuff, and it was like every year we weren't an entertainer

and was like what how does that even happen? You know, It's like and then you go and it's like you start thinking about that stuff, and then the hand your plaque for ten million tickets sold and you know, all

that stuff. It kind of it sits with you. Not that we weren't you know, grateful, but you know you kind of just sit and scratch your head, like, uh, there's not really anything else we can do, Like I would have been again, I would have resented the people that make those decisions because it's such an inside bubble decision that's being made. And I would think you guys were so successful. And I've seen other this happened to

other people in town too. Uh. Sam Hunt for example, he had a couple of years where he was crushing, not at the level you guys worked, but he and he wasn't be nominated for anything. And it's like, Wow, why are we so out of touch? Why do we have to to to make it that only a certain type of sin that we deem which removes the power from the people. And I felt like they removed that

with you guys. Yeah, I feel the same way. I think like Single of the Year, take the top five singles with the most spins or whatever, and that should be your top five, you know. I mean it seems easy to me, but that's not the politics of the game, you know. And as you guys are achieving superstardom, did it ever get to where it was eagles like like we have own dressing rooms, were just coming out and meeting on stage or was there was there ever a

phase like that. No. You know, the only time there was a phase like that was when it was like we were like no, because we spent every night on the dressing rooms together and all that. But it was busses, you know, because we started having kids and all of that. But that was the only time. But it was like, all right, I'm not picking up your socks, I'm not picking up your food. We're grown men in this place that we're not doing it. So we all got separate

busses and everything was great. But now we spent every night in the dress room together. Was there ever, Because once you start making big money, you start flying private from shows. Was there ever one of you guys? I was like, I don't want to spend the Flats money on a plane. Let's take a bus. Did that ever, You're almost let's go, Dan. What do you get recognized more for the lead singer of the Flats or the guy who's faces on the moving trucks? Flats for sure,

Flats for sure, black Time movie. It's funny. I get a lot of people around town stuff. I get more pictures of people like sitting in traffic and something says black Time moving to my face on there and We're like, dude, what but no flats for sure? Um a question that I was gonna ask. I know the answer to it, because Michael was like, hey, ask him this question, but I'll also help with the answer. He says, do you ever just show up random me to a house that

your company is working on? Let me answer, Let me answer this one. And I don't know if he does randomly, but I hired Black Time Moving to move me in here. And I get a call going, hey, man, where you yet, I'm like at them at the house. He goes, hey' truck So I'm about to show up and he drives up right beside his truck and he came over and we hung out for like an hour and he was like all right, and that was it. No way broke anything the end of it. And he was in a

white tie. He wore the tuxedo to It was the whole thing I mentioned. And we'll get to some music in a second, but I mentioned and it's a true story. It's my favorite story because it was before I knew you um as a person. But we lived in the same neighborhood and there's a little gym in the neighborhood and I was working out and when I don't wear my glasses, I can't see anything. And I was doing some cardio and I just there's some guy that kind of waved at me. But he was in full camo.

He was on a bike in full camo. I was like, and so I put my glasses on and then full camo, full turkey hunting gear. Is Gary going? Are you doing? Dumbbellans? Would you you have an interesting family? I know your daughter when your daughter a little bit too? Um? Would you guys ever? Do you know a show a family show like Jay did? Uh? No, No, I don't. Like I wouldn't want to live with cameras all the time. You know. It's like you, you know, I wouldn't want

cameras around me all the time. By way, you know how you know how you take a break and you don't you know me, I take a lot of breaks. Um, okay, two things I want to bring up and then we're gonna get to the because it's just things it's better to bring up on camera. Um. It was who like one in the morning, maybe like three weeks ago. I got a text from you at one in the morning. It's like, hey, get in my clubhouse room, and I was like, I can't get in your club. I don't

even know what you were talking. You're talking about something like foreign money bitcoin. I thought it would be like so I I go, okay, I said, I can't. I'm gonna get in trouble because Caitlin's all sleep next to me, like, just get in the room. It's like going in your room and it's like how to jeopardize bitcoins transactional and I'm like, I don't even know what this is. I thought we were talking about the history of the flats. So I get out a text the next day and

I was like, what were you doing up? You're like, oh man, we're writing until like one we got into clubhouse to like five in the more like you you go hard, but in a different way. Now yeah, I just yeah, because you know, just getting motive. I have nothing to do the next day, so now I can stay up on that. It's not like I have to go to work the next day. My second favorite story

just recently happened. Or I text Gary and I said, hey, you have an arst to Pete to the wedding yet and Caitlin' kind of on I've never had a wedding before. She's like, hey, because apparently have to pick out what people eat, like people have to go hey. I said, hey, Arst to the wedding, and you said you were coming. I was like, just make it easy on me so I don't have to. And I send the text and nothing,

no response, And I'm like, well, that's interesting, Gary. We're usally pretty quick with text with each other and no, no problem. Who knows what you're doing, right, you could probably be like doing some charitable work. I don't know. I look over on Instagram and he's selling hats. He's selling Gary Lavox hats and I'm like, I'm watching. You can't return to text. You gotta make eight bucks selling one of these hats. I'm like, hey, yeah, I'm Arst.

I just sign. It was weird because I had to sign those hats because we were leaving for Florida in like two hours, so I just in the fifteen seconds and just the respond of the text would have totally shifted. But I did that. I wasn't I was in I was in motion. You know, how do we okay in these hats? Here? I'm gonna wear this one too, But how do we get this hat. Just go to Gary Lavox dot com yep, and it's got all shirts and hats and grisp all all the oxwear stuff. I do

want to try that. I went to the post office today to find a phone book because I don't have actual Yes, because you know how they say Gary can sing the phone book and make it good. You've heard that phrase, right. I went There was no phone book. They looked at me like I was stupid. They're like, why do you want a phone book? I was like, well, gear to the boxes coming to the house. I'd like to hear him sing the phone book. And they were like,

I'm sorry, we don't have a phone book. However I had this, Well, maybe it's just a couple of lines. This is stock investing for dummies. It's the closest thing I had to a phone book. Maybe open it up sing it's a few lines, all right, So why don't you choose a promise singing sector? Just select large cap companies that are financially strong, earning a prophet, have a load death and our market lead. Oh, this entire book shows you how to choose just than Yeah. However, you

may not like the idea of buying stocks directly. No, no, no, don't buy stocks directly. There is fantastic which, by the way, I believe that's what I was hearing you talk about in the clubhouse room singing it the same way, and let's bring your guys in. Let's do it. I gotta Gary had some players there. Just bring them on in. I was talking with them earlier. What is that instrument with the funny strings. It's a guitar. Yeah, it's a it's a dough bro. It's a doughe bro. Got it

sounds like a like a steel guitar, slash guitar. It's very loud. The ones that I've seen are very loud. Come on, hey guys, Andy Wood, Travis Toy, everybody. Hey guys, So let me let me say this again because this will obviously it's seen now, this is gonna be up. We're gonna put it up in a lot of places. Your new record, your gospel record, one to one, one on one, one on one, is out Friday. How many tracks five? So it's an EP, it's gospel EP and

the singles out now, Yeah, called the Distance. I saw the video like in a field. Yeah, that was at the Love I love a good field. Yes, and also you have stop telling Caylo we need to come to the farm because you won't leave me alone about it. No. No, she's like, she's like Gary literally wants us to come, and I'm like, Gary's fancy Hollywood. He just says stuff. No, no, come on, Okay, what are we gonna play here? So we'll play the distance. We'll play the first single off

po All right, here we go. Get the box you guys, check out the record. Let's hear a song. See the road of life we travel has speed, bumps, cracks and detours when you go left of centner. Just look up and thence your sund even though you want to quit in the agen and says to give in, but I frist with God, you can go to distance. Except the challenge for everybody on that's before you. Wos not a lost, it's found on a cross and all the strain to

push sight through. You can make it up the lintel, you can throw it downing who lit up bold and feel les because with God you can go that this her Lord, don't give up staying on your faith. Finish the race and break the tame and go the distance. Except the challenge for everybody amounts before you pulps not first. It's fun at home and on the stream to push on through. You can take it out the mortam. You can do it doing and live a pool and fills couse with God. You can go the distance. You can

go oh the dust. One on One is available Friday, May one. You can actually pre order at the link in his Instagram bio. You can follow Gary on Instagram at Gary Lavox. That's his only account because every third post is him going this is a fake account and pointing out a fake account. Most of his feet is just him showing fake accounts. Get a life, people. His new album, One on One is available this Friday. Again preorder. Hey listen, I love you. You know that all seriousness?

My guy there, he is Gary J Joe. Don check out the record. I'm excited and I listen, I've heard this record. I've heard none of the country record. I am excited for you to to be fulfilled by this and then hit us with that country record in the fall is coming. That's what I'm talking about. All Right, We're gonna take a quick break, Gary Levox. You guys check out the record and we're back in just a minute. Thank you back, Caitlin's back in Gary's great Huh yeah

did you ask him? Oh? I got nervous? Why'd you get nervous? So we have we're gonna make the band in our wedding learn a song? Would sing it? Gary? He's going? You called? No? You you said it? Gary? Hi happening. Let's say, let's say we happen to teach the band one of your songs at our wedding and they happen to play it at the reception, but the singer happened to be in the bathroom. Who would step up? No? It was not the answer. Amazing, What what song do

you want us to make the band learn? Oh? Thank you? No, I'm humiliated. It does not know my wish, broken rods anything, It's not that one, not that one anyway. I did a conversation for another time, but probably my wish. Huh. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's beautiful because you probably be broken all the time. Everyone will be unique. Yeah alright there, Oh take me there? So you know what I really like? I see a desk trail following in Nova baby blue Eyes. Yeah,

harmonized with the Gary. Okay, I'm sorry they called you about Herry. Wait, baby, you don't move there. It is t shirt right, Okay, alright, alright, thank you guys. You don't like to say her best and Sunset riverback first? Yeah you know okay, he of course he knows it. Okay, both of you. Thank you, Gary, Caitlin, thank you very right. You're both out of here about kicked out? Okay, okay, I need to bring my next guest in because okay, um up next, I want to welcome to artist that

is destined to be a superstar. Not only she just awesome. She's our country on the verge. Artists are selling things a man, I don't know us climbing up the country charts right now. She describes her music as country with the flare. She is the best handed Montana personator that I know. Welcome Landy Wilson, everybody. Hil Do you get a chance to meet Gary? Had you met him before you met Gary? Pretty cool today? Yeah, just so normal. Well normal is not the word I would use, but

it's so approachable and friendly. Gosh, make just sat down on the couch and we just started talking about a little bit everything. So it's interesting to see you now becoming the star. I always felt you would be because we met years ago. I was watching Blanco Brown's going to do the two step and yeah, so I messaged you. I messaged Laney on Instagram and was like hey, because you were doing the dance with him, and I said, hey, can you teach me this? And Laney's like yeah, sure,

she goes, I mean I'll come over. I say, we'll put you in the video, and well you can teach us, and you said I'll call Blanco and I was like, well, that's extremely nice to her because I was saying, hey, you could do and you're like, no, we'll do one. Now we're gonna get the real deal involved. And then you and Blanco came into the house and then you don't even You're like, I don't need to be in the video. And I was like wow, heng Now, I was like, people who really know it, y'all get accurate.

I'm just here to kind of help the siltate. But it was it just showed me just how awesome of a person you were, and that you also knew that your time was coming, that wasn't gonna be your time. You had your own reason. Yeah. It's funny too, though, Like we put that video up on YouTube and I put so many dangs. You was a me singing on YouTube, and of course I put one of me dancing. The thing goes viral and I'm like, shoot, I should have been dancing. So now to see you, you know, blow up.

It's been crazy because we did the our Raging Idiot Show last year, no two years oh, because the pandemic, we didn't have it. And you came out and did Fat Bottom Girls by Queen and and you crushed so hard. The crowd didn't know you at the time, but when you were done, they loved you. I couldn't get them to stop clapping. It was wild. That was my first time playing the rhyman. I mean, I will never forget it.

And got up there and of course I think fat Bottom Girl, but I just remember you crushing it so hard that the crowd was like, we don't know her yet, but we think we're going to know her. That's the goal. Every time I get up there, I'm like, they don't know me from Adam, but when I get done with this, they don't know me. So what's the difference now in the feeling of when you have a song climbing the charts?

Right now. It's so strange. I mean, actually, I was at home in Louisiana not too long ago that tractor supply, and uh, this guy came up to me was like, are you that girl that sings that song about what a man out? So he recognized you. Yeah, and I was like, yeah, you work at tractor supply, So I guess you do know a few things that mayn't ought to know. But it's been it's been interesting. It's uh, it's just like you, like you said a minute ago,

I've always just kind of felt like my time was coming. Um, I've never had a plan. B So at some point in time, this gotta work and used to drive back and forth and used to tour like you would go home like you'd be here and try to make it, but then you you had to pay the bills, so you would just drive home and play shows down there. Yep.

So I was living at a camper, and I lived in the camp for in the first three years I was here, and I was living in a studio parking lot somebody who was just letting me live in their yard basically and let me bumb you know, their water and WiFi. So I didn't have a whole lot of bills, you know. I mean I had to buy groceries and gas money and stuff like that. So I go home to Louisiana or Mississippi and just play as many shows as I could and just try to make ends meete. Yep,

was there ever a time where you saw it? Man, I just don't know if I can do this, and I'm I don't think I'm gonna do this. What's crazy is no, like, I'm I have to be a little borderline crazy because there there were times in my life where I should have packed my stuff and went home absolutely, But um, you know, I've just I'm a little hard headed, and I just kind of always felt like, you know, I mean, this is what I was, I was born to do, and I will figure out one way or another.

And I got really supportive parents. And my daddy's a farmer, and I've seen him like get up every single day and just do the dame thing, you know, I mean, like work his fingers to the bone and it's his livelihood and he has bad years, good years, but at the end of the day, like, if you love it, you do it. So are they so proud of you? Oh, they're so tickled. I mean to for them to turn on their local country station and hear their daughter on

the radio. What what does that do for them? Well, actually, Daddy was righting the tractor the other day and um, they just finished playing corn and he called me, and it was really a full circle thing for me. It was just wild because any time I ever wanted to spend time with him, I'd have to go right the tractor with him because he was just always at it.

So he called me, and I don't remember what I was doing, but he just said, hey, I'm out here, just you know, I'm on the tractor out in the field, and I just wanted to let you know I just heard you on the countdown and I was like, well, now I'm about to school. So it was just you could just hear in his voice. He don't have to tell me that he's proud of me, but he is. Man,

that's so cool. Have you played a show? And I guess you probably haven't played a show back home since you know, the pandemic, because you really there hasn't been a lot of shows. Well, you know, just now, are you starting to go out at all? Have you been out at all? To play anything. Yeah, so we've done some stuff out West Idaho, Wyoming. We've got some stuff. Shoot,

where are we going this weekend? And see, that's the best thing is when you start because you're you're getting some when you forget where you're going, because you're just like a hundred miles an hour, things are coming at you like congratulations. Because when I I saw you go where are we going? Like that's the first step and just making it like thank God, you get to go. I'm running so hard and I'm so tired that I can't remember that's the greatest blessing. I'm so pumped, like

I cannot get out there quick enough. I mean, yeah, we're we're in uh Austin and Decatur, Illinois this weekend. And it's just nice to see people. Yeah, the first time you play a show back home, you're gonna be just so moved. To have your people seeing your music bag is going to be another milestone for you. Here

and there. Like I've seen like in a few different places, like we played somewhere in Arizona and I saw some people singing a lot of the songs, and I mean I've never seen that, and it did make me feel all warm and fuzzy, and I was like, Wow, this is like what you work so hard for, you know, for people to just connect and latch onto something. And I mean that's a songwriter's dream, you know. So my hometown seven hundred people. Your hometown baskets three hundred, you know.

I mean, apparently I live in the big city compared to Baskan. Apparently I'm New York City. What what what we have the um um shop and a gas station? We know, how many traffic lights? What's Basking like? We have like a gas station and a half I guess you have. I mean it's literally like I don't even know if it's a gas station anymore. We have caution light, a bunch of cornfields. That's about it. It's actually called the Village of Basking. What makes it a village? Heck

if I know. Every time I'm like, I'm from the town of Basket, my parents correct me and they're like, no, it's the Village of Basking. That's just what it says on the Welcome to the Village of Basking sign. You're gonna tour with Jason al Dean. How did that come to you? Did you hear from him what happened. It's just so crazy. I know. So we're you know, we're at the same label, and I know a lot of the people over there have been like sending to my music for a while. And m and his manager called

my manager and said, y'all know that girl. Y'all been bugging us about for two years now. Jason wants her to be on on the road with him. I was like, what in the world now, My people back at home really think I'm doing something with my life. That's something long enough, Okay, Laney, you're gonna play a song, a couple of songs for us. Okay, we bring in some stuff in all. You guys check out Landy on Instagram whether they get on all this stuff. You can follow

Laney on Instagram. It's at Laney Wilson Music, and you guys check out her album saying what I'm thinking, that's the record. You can go stream things a man out to know wherever you listen to music. And she's fantastic. I've been a fan for literally years and to see her blow up is extremely gratifying for me to see someone that has just been grinding it out, and it is also so good, so thank you for having me all right here there here she is Lanny Wilson. So

this is about where I'm from. When I moved here, I told everybody I was from l A. I thought I was talking about Hollywood, but I was talking about Louisyanna. My name ain't on every list, but they see I'm where the parties. I drive a beamer through the money. Well, I've kind of reading a college wood. When you say helly, I fin't lousy had a lower Atabama starts a bunness sky, and I being a California, we're too far from Georgia's.

But one day, my but there's moral us around from what every name, same small town Gucci, lace can dress it up, but country is his country does When you say I think losy a lower Obama stars a beIN the sky, and I being a California, went too far from Georgia. But one day, but one day, when you say, well, I think lose he don't burry on in Dix Cup's kinda redneck Hollywood jobber meets now On Jude kinda redneck.

You're so good, You're just so good and you're loud at the same time, and it's hard to be good and loud old and you do both. Yeah, Landy Wilson, you guys as she retunes, follow her at Landy Wilson Music. If you see her come into town, go support or buy or any merch up right now. Oh yeah, we got our kind of merge where on my website Landy Wilson dot com. That's how you can support a new artist. Like, yeah, honest to god, that's that's it. People are like, how

do I support a new artists? Sure you can stream the songs, but help help out buy cool merch that she has. So um, also subscribe to this channel control Music. If you guys see it, hit subscribe. Come to have so much good stuff on this channel. So um we we too. I was just vamping. Basically, we tuned up, got ready to go. All right, tell us what we got here. We're gonna play the single. By the way, this is this is my right Hayman Aslin makes me

sound good. Um, so this is gonna be golly. I'm I'm just so proud of this song, how it's connecting to people and people are latching onto it. And I mean, this song ain't about changing the tire or starting to fire me and YouTube all out. At the end of the day, this song is just about treating people right. It's about having a good character, something that my parents really tried to teach me and uh, stay in firm on. So it's something that every single one of us ought

to know. Here's things a man out of new one. I can look a trailer on a two inch chitch, I can shoot a shock gun, I can catch a fish, and I can change the tire on the side of the rock. Yeah, I don't want feed things a man on a how to know when it's love, how to say when it's time, how to chance forever down the driveway, how to never let it get there in the first place. And yeah I got the boy, he gave up and got it wrong. If you're a little woman, you don't

let her go. Yeah, I don't. A few things a man are no. Yeah, I don't A few things a man are no. So good Landy Wilson just a plus man. Just love everything about your your your your voice and not just just singing voice, like what you stand for and your style and so just it's just so cool to see and make that make that next jump. Thank you for I love to see it tired. Oh my gosh, Like that's the that's the great. You should be you should they should be running you so hard, can't ye exciting? Yeah?

Of course you get your own mental health health time soon enough, But right now you're all good. All right, there is Landy Wilson. You guys, get some you can help her out, just get a shirt off her website. Landy Wilson dot com really helps the new artists. Um, and that's it. That's our show and so thank you guys, Thanks to Twitch Control Music and all of our crew here to help with the show on. Most importantly, thanks to you guys for watching and spending your Tuesday night

with me. You could have been youw moere in the world, but you're right here with me and I appreciate that. So I'll leave you with this piece of wisdom that you know I've talked about forever. You know, the best time to plan a tree was twenty years ago. If you haven't done it already, well, the second best time is now. What does that mean? It means that if you want success in life, you gotta at right now. You can't get better at something if you're not putting,

putting effort in and trying listen. I failed time after time, was rejected by everybody radio stations, book publishers, TV stations, on and on and on. Had to beg, Lanny, just come to the show. It's rejecting me nine times to even be here today. So if you feel like the world is passing, you buy and that you can't keep up with the Joneses or the Kardashians or the TikTok stars or whoever that gen Z looks up to these days. It is never too late to get started and try.

You can be someone they look up to. You can change the narrative. Have a great night. I'll see you next time here on the show that we call on Time with Bobby Bones. Don't forget be excellent to each other. Party on good night everybody. I guess Hey, this is Joe from the Biz Tape podcast, a podcast that serves as a catchall for music, business and media news of the week. Srib and listen to the Biz Tape on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

get your podcasts. So d m X sadly passed away at fifty years old, like on April nine. I mean, it was a real bummer. My friend group was really in the DMX, so like they were all very you know, sad and about it, and I listened to a lot of his music, so I was kind of sad about everything. But the real question now is like, what's going on with this the state? You know what I mean? He's had all these records and stuff in his fifteen children

would also like to know. Yeah, oh my god, fifteen children. No shame at having fifteen children, but splitting something fifteen ways, it's really hard to do. How many kids that Bob Marley have? Just for comparison, I don't know. Let's see what it is here, Let's look it up. What is uh, let's see let's see what Joe looks that up. We're gonna play this game where basically I'm gonna get you all to guess how much you think d m x is royalties are and all defined royalties here in a minute, Joe,

you got anything? Yeah, okay, Just for comparison, Bob Marley um has eleven kids. Okay, So d m X beat him, all right? So also that also bitter bitter estate battle in there too, so this is gonna get rough. Um, But Billboard did a fun thing where they tried to guess using some calculations which I'll get into in a second, um, how much kind of his catalog of music is worth. So this revenue is coming from his master recordings and

his publishing. And this is all speculative, like they have like some kind of comments that they base off and all the fine don't right. And for you know viewers that may not know, we're talking about master recording royalties, which is the money that the label makes him for quote unquote exploiting records. So this is like streaming CDs and stuff like that, the actual recordings and exploiting in the good way of that's just how every label contract

will say, we get to exploit your master recording. Then the other side of the money is the publishing money, the publishing royalties, and that's money paid to the songwriter, which is DMX in this is for copies of his song that are made. So we're talking about streaming CDs, but this also includes sinc deals and anything else that you actually need publishing rights for. Also, this can be you know, made smaller by co writers, so keep that in mind. So, Joe, I'm gonna give you some notable

d m X facts. And with this information, I want you to guess I will give you. I would say this, let's start out. It's obviously more than zero, so the easy one there for you. Um, and it's less than your high ball when we were talking about it earlier, which Joe still doesn't know the fifty million dollars. It's in between zero and fifty million if you're keeping it at home. So here's some fun facts that may raise

or lower your guests. On the Billboard Top one hundred, he has appeared sixteen times, eleven times as a lead artist, but only has beat the top forty three times, with the highest at seventeen. Okay, so we're you know, he had some He had a lot of hits, but nothing like crazy, didn't have a number one, didn't have anything like that, most notably, which is nuts. And most people will be like, I think blindside of this, because I was.

He is the first artist ever to have their first five albums go number one on the Billboard two five in a row. That has never been done before debut and the first and the next four we're number one. So yeah, alright, this calculation was made assuming he has a fifty fifty publishing deal with a publishing entity. So he's basically splitting his royalty of publishing money in half on top, like I was saying earlier, of having other songs that could have co writers, which then he'd have

to split it even more. So, just keep in mind, is publishing money is fifty assuming because we're assuming he had a publishing deal, and then the calculation for his master recording royalty was made that he gets an eight royalty on physical old sales and on digital sales. And then I didn't add this in here, Joel, but we're

assuming that he's on that he's recouped. He doesn't owe anything to the label, He doesn't have anything from publishing or anything like that, so this would be so just to be clear, this is the money that he's pocketing. This is the money he's pocketing after after this, after the labels cuts, after this publishing entity cut, and after you know, co writers are taking cuts of stuff. This is the evaluation of all of that money. How much money do you think this money is worth? Again? Between

zero and fifty million. Here, I'll get it fun. I will give you, I'll give you one guess, and I'll tell you higher or lower and then you get another guess. Okay, okay, okay, So don't look at the word document because I'll okay, I got to look away. Um. So I'm thinking, um because like with any artists like this, when whenever they pass away, they do have a spike and S's streams very smart, and I think maybe it's valued higher now than what it could be maybe three year or four

years down the line. Um. But i'm gonna say you said less than fifty million, less than fifty million, Okay, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna highball it. Still, I'm gonna say, like, I'm gonna say, like thirty five million, lower, lower than that lower? Oh god, yeah, man, okay, also lower than thirty five million. This man, isn't you know zero dollars? This is a very going to be insane as you're gonna be a stupid number. I don't think it's stupid. I think it makes sense based on what I told you.

But it's okay, I'm gonna people, Okay, I'm gonna go the obstruction. I'm gonna go pretty well, I'm gonna say ten million, okay, Well, it's actually half of your first number. Basically it is seventeen point seven million dollars. Oh man, that has to get split up in between fifteen he had five number one He had five number one albums, which is kind of important in this case. Um, alright, so I want to open this up. So first off, this estate is going to be a nightmare because there's

so many kids. Fifteen people have claims to this money, and not to mention that they have to pay lawyer fees. Um, if maybe he has debt or anything like that, they

have to get that together and everything. This money is up there like the Michael Jackson the state and being fought over in princes of state and being fought over and trying to figure out what's going on with this money years, and like the point is is that the longer they wait on this money, you know what I mean, It's like the longer they wait, the more fees get

taken out. They gotta pay place. You know, if he has property, they gotta pay the property if they's got you know, the longer the lawyer has to work, the more money that is. And then again fifteen times times, so like this is a big deal. I mean, and I literally was talking to a friend of ours who's a lawyer, and she was like, man, I would love to see those documents. Like so, I mean see it or work on it. I feel like working on it

would be insanely do not work. I would not want to work on it unless they were like, we will give you our portion of the seventeen million, which like and he had he had no will or anything. Um, I don't know about that yet. They haven't really specified specifically. But even then with a will, it can be contested, it can have issues with that. I mean, okay, first off, I just did the calculation. If we evenly split it seventeen fifteen ways, it's one point one eight mill Wow. Okay.

And then here's the other part that we're completely forgetting. This isn't liquid money. So this is like money that can come in and grow in value. Which is funny that you said that you think it will go down because Rolling Stone, I'm not rolling So Billboard actually has the opposite. For an interesting reason for our listeners is because they think the publishing money will grow because traditionally rock and roll music has the highest kind of publishing

rate because it's very songwriter focused. But there's been an increase in the industry and Billboard predicted this and I've seen this in other places that raps publishing revenue will increase over time due to the fan base becoming larger people who you know, since rock and roll older and older, since the fan base of rock and roll diminishes as it you know, becomes less of a primary genre, and then the you know, kids that grew up specifically with just rap and hip hop as the main genre grow,

then you could see that getting more expensive. Um, it's actually interesting because if you compare the two genres, there's a lot of similarities and in how they grew and where they are in their in their place basically, like even even it's almost like one to one time frame of like between know, some dude in his basement to now it's it's like mainstream arena tours happening. So it yeah,

that is very interesting and I actually never thought about that. Yeah, isn't that It's such a weird thing to think about, but you know, I mean it makes it makes sense. But so that publishing money, you know, assuming that they're going to keep that rate going and everything, then uh, that could be that could be just increasing in value.

So that's the thing is like who needs this money, you know, especially if it's publishing money and they have rights of it, and it's like, fifteen people have to get together and figure out are we selling our publishing rights? That's a problem. Like that's just gonna be hard to do, and I'm sure somebody will be you know what i mean.

Like if some publishing company came up to them and was like, oh, we would like to buy the remainder of the publishing split, you have to go clear that with fifteen people, you know, fifteen or do you would you? I guess depending if they have is like you wouldn't get you wouldn't it wouldn't be split up, depending if they have legitimacy of the rights. Also, like again this is what I'm wondering with the will and stuff like that. I mean, if one kid had like one album and

the other kid that would be hilarious. Well, I mean it's just more of like it depends on his will and everything and how that is. And like we've seen. The crazy partis we've seen celebrities with no will. Prince had no will at all. That's still nuts to me. No will, and so like I have no idea, you know, it's up in the air, if he had a will and had that like all put together, and if that will is legitimate to be used. And finally, my point is is Joe may remember from our MTSU days, recapturing

of works is up on the table. So if you don't know about this, uh, Basically, to summarize this way down, there is a policy and copyright law where you can recapture ownership of your songs basically um and then and that can be the publishing money and the songwriter money. It's the master recordings and stuff like that. It's a very long process. You have to wait, I believe thirty

five years to do it. Now the thirty five years for DMX for like recordings which are like the beginning of the really valuable recordings of his career, would become could come into ownership as soon as twenty three. But it's an extensive filing process to get all that together. You have to be on the ball with it. You have to file ten years before. So they would have to file in and then that enables them to have

full ownership of those recordings. So their old label that he was under would not have ownership of those recordings if they get it to do right. We've seen like a passing story even the other day where Dwight Yoakum is getting denied his rights because he might have been five days late because of the label not seeing it, like not sending it a time not to go in another story, but just as proof of like you know this, this is messy. Yeah, it gets very messy. So um.

If they get that though, then they can renegotiate to have those records exploited with another company and then maybe you can get a better deal you know what I mean, and make more money. And then usually when you make a deal like that with a big catalog, they might give you an advance, you know what I mean, or something like that.