All right, welcome to episode one seven of the Bobby Cast, which this one was. It's kind of special to me because I didn't really know this is gonna happen until I was talking to Sasha and I was like, you guys gotta come up and we'll just we'll go get some food. But you guys to come do what I do for a second. So I'm glad you guys are here at Sasha right here. Yeah, I will say this that I liked you guys separately before I even knew you guys were married. When did you know we were married?
I don't remember. So I didn't know Sasha for a bit. Uh. And I knew you because when we first started training here in Nashville on my season, you were also in Nashville with John, and so when I was with Sharna, you would go, we're training like down the road, and so that's where you and I met. I remember coming in and and and walk in and being like, oh my gosh, this guy, like I love the whole he was rest like. I was like, you're wearing red. I was like that's your thing and you're like, yeah, it
kind of is. And And also I knew that we had bond because we both like kind of like bigger cars. Like I've got a chief, you have a monster jeep. Yeah, but I want to make it bigger. Honestly, I love that cheap You were saying that when we were because I did a bit of the Dancing with the Stars Live tour and You're like, I missed my truck, missed my big truck more than anything. What what is your jeep?
It is a Sahara Wrangler and it's kind of like the sub It's like I haven't taken off roading, which is a complete sin because I put like these big wheels on it. It's got I'm going to get a roof rat, but I raised it. It's got a like a mean grill on the front. It looks like and I wanted people to think that is an angry man who owns that car. And then this sort of Mary Poppins type English person just like comes out and I'm quite positive so you'd fit right in the catch of
music or with that big jeep. Yeah, you drive the Nashville and just be like what I'm like looking around all these like Ford huge trucks and like GMCs, and I'm like, this is heaven. Um you. Yeah, we were in Nashville together and I remember you being so and I was still out of my fish out of water completely right. The dancing still am by the way, even like six of my later still am. But yeah, you're always so nice and so I got to know you a little bit through that, and then Sasha was how's
the go to man? Yeah? You were. I would like be like, hey, dude, what do I do? And because you were working were with Mary Lou and you'd be training because you guys training the same building in l A that we do. And then I was like, dang, they're freaking married. How how appropriate is that? I feel like that's when we bonded the first time. When you
found out that M's and I were married. We had we had our little traditional catering chats, didn't we Yeah, And it was well, I like, Emma, and if you're married, and I must like you Like sure, that's really what it is. I based a lot of my at least early on relationships on if I have a good recommendation. Yeah, you know, it's like a Netflix show. People are like Netflix shows to me. Now, if someone recommends it and
they know my sensibilities. I'm much more able to go, okay, let the guard down a little bit because someone's vouching. So I'm glad you guys are here. It's really cool for me to finally in my world. I know, I know this is what you do. I'm finally good at something good. God, you're the champion. I did win, and yeah, but I think I wont by just band aiding it together all the time. No, I don't think you band aided it. I think that you Like when I watched
you because I was in in week ten. I think it was you had a salsa and it was going down for real and I was one of the girls in that, and I watched you and also your finale, your your freestyle. I watched you become you like you really turned it on for the show, like you really you kind of it's almost like you told yourself right. I don't know if I know it, but guess what, I'm going to give it and you just kind of like geared yourself up and you did. We actually watched
that last night. It wasn't it. You watched it. I don't haven't watched it. I haven't watched it back. I can't watch it all the way back. It's good actually, like a little clicks of it, and you know, praise to Sharna for putting it together. But I have just struggle with watching me because I just see the little things that I do wrong every time that I don't think nor people would see because I wouldn't see it before that. But um, yeah, I won. I mean, you Skippy.
I don't even come to talk about me here, but you have Skippy. It was cool. It's really one of the coolest things that I've accomplished. And you know, I'm not some pretty cool stuff, but I think that to me more than it being a TV show was like for the sake of I had no idea what I was doing right, and as a team. When I was able to figure out my team, because Sean is way different than I am, we had to figure out compatibility issues.
And then I had to figure out how to actually learn how to dance good enough to be good at what I do as well, because I couldn't just go want to be an idiot. I had to at least look like I was caring and trying to get better. Yeah, exactly, And then are you were? You were getting better every week? Okay, well enough about me. I didn't. I didn't. I talked about me for five hours a day, every day, all the time. I'm so over me at this point. So, um, you guys are on the tour right now, the Live tour,
and you've been out since like before Christmas. Huh it was December fift and then this is our longest tour, so we don't finish until much ninth and nuts in Cali, and you stay on the road, which is weird because tours here, like in in country music, they go out Thursday, Friday, Saturday and they come home. Oh really, I didn't know that. Even when I tour, we go out Friday Saturdays and then we come back home. We're getting chipped on the road. We get one day off, but we do kind of
like five six shows and then a day off. Six shows, day off, And I mean, I'm not complaining. This is actually I've done every single tour that they've done, and I will do because I kind of love living out of a suitcase. I love I love exploring. I love that. You know, that's why we love camping. We've never gone camping exactly. He thinks you're like camping. We love the great outdoors. Yeah it's awesome, but yeah it's this one's
a really really long tour. I'm curious about you guys backstories, because as we were spending time together, it was always like, hey, how do I just got to go for advice all the time. We never really sat down and like, I'm curious about And I'll start with you. Emma. You grew up in England, right, so when did you start dancing? So I grew up in Birmingham and I always had like a lot of energy. I first started. I've got a twin as well. We first started going to like
ballet when we were five. But I just had so much energy that I just wanted to bounce off the walls. And I found the teacher was like really strict, so quit that it was kind of like whatever. Just you know, little girls go to ballet. Did your parents dance well or they just put you in dance because it was something No they I mean her mom thinks she can dance, right, well,
my mom, cat, what are you saying, Sash? My mom can dance, but she's a their forensic detective, so they not hold on your Your mom is a forensic detective and my dad, and so they like solve what kind of crimes they serve. Well, my dad he's moved into sort of the professor teaching stage now, but when he was doing forensic detectives way back then, Um, he used to solve some pretty like homicide, some really serial killer
type things. He used to fly everywhere to teach how to teach these countries how to like get to the English standard of forensic crime solving. It was amazing. The question like her phone calls, like with her mom, just casually I'd be like, yeah, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on the podcast, but basically, like sometimes my mom will be like, oh, hi, how are you doing. Oh gosh, I just got back from a
triple homicide. You know, please be safe. You know this person it's like, and she would like be on roofs trying to fingerprint for like the point of entry and stuff. She just cut like she'd bust a marijuana factory and she'd come I remember being in school once and coming home and she smelt of weed and she was and I ran down the stairs to give her a hug, and she was like, ever, don't touch me. I stink
of marijuana. And then she's walked off and it was and I remember thinking that is such a surreal thing for a mother to say. But anyway, does that decenteritie you to what all the shows, like all the crime docuseries is now where it's like Ted Bundy or because you've seen a lot of this and heard a lot of it in your real life. Okay, it doesn't desensitize me, but I have a real piqued interest. But I think
everybody does. But I really did like case study a lot of serial killers when I was younger, which sounds pretty creepy, but I kind of think that a lot of people do that. So like Ted Bundy, the Boston Strangler, like all of these ed Geane who was like really really the biggest one edge I don't know who that is, so they based like Psycho off of him. He was kind of a cannibal as well. I believe from where right, um isn't I can't realise the States? How can we
have a name like a crazy name? Ed He was like he had a really like weird relationship with his mom. Um. Yeah, he blood of Philadelphia. Philadelphia there there it is. And so he killed a bunch of people. He killed a bunch of people and would keep their heads in jars like he kept the bodies. How do I know this? Dude? He was the base sins of a lot of a lot of movies, like a loads I think, I'm pretty sure Psycho. I can't quite remember that one, but a
load of movies. Maybe even Um Silence and the Lambs, I think something like that. Did you watch the Ted Money on Netflix? I didn't. I started it, but I didn't watch the whole way through. And you know about him already. You know he escaped jail twice. I did know that. And he's from Utah too. So Whitney, who's from Utah, was really freaked out she watched the documentary. She was like, oh, so your parents are freaking uh DNA detective. What's the official title? I don't want to mask. Well.
In England they called SOCCOS, which has scenes of crime officer, but over here it's forensic. Did you worry that your parents were there investigating bad guys that bad guys would
like try to come at them? Do you know? I actually didn't worry about that when I was a kid, but I do worry about it now with my mom because she does nights, and so she goes out to all these burglary scenes and um and fingerprints, and sometimes she's on her own just with her kid, and so she she doesn't like to show the fact she's in the police because they're in dodgy areas. So, you know, I worry about her wild and her dad's like leam Neeson taken. You know, if if anything was going to happen,
he was he knows what to do. I don't know if he'd be as successful as she. And so, okay, you have two parents. By the way, let me ask one more question right there. Yeah, did they ever watch these shows and be like, that's not really how it works? Because that friends in the military that will watch military shows, be like, that's not really how it works. They watched these shows and that's not really My dad would scream at the TV and be like, the see this contamination everywhere.
They haven't even they haven't even put up a bloody tent, he said. And he always used to tell me he fills me with all this information. But he always used to tell me the first thing you do is literally get everyone away from the scene and take photographs. They put these little ballistics cards down like where they see a shell or where they numbers, and they would take photographs and measurements of dimensions if it's a pretty serious crime, you know, and then they put a pretent to preserve
it all. And then they go in with their you know you see them with the sometimes blue, sometimes white, big overrules of the onesies. They go and with the and they like put lead dust on and their fingerprint and then peel it off and all kinds. Wow. And so you never wanted to do there, No, no, Actually I wanted to be an actress. So the story of me getting into dances like, I always wanted to be an actress. I knew that I was. I wouldn't say creative, but I knew that I was. I wanted to perform.
That was it performed was like everything, and um, I wanted to be an actress. So I went into like a local acting like school, just on the weekends, like my family is not well off at all. Um. And then I started dancing and it went from being a hobby to like competing two then serious competing and then by the time I was fourteen, I remember being really like upset one day because I am quite analytical, and I had to tell myself, right, I need to pick one.
Which one am I going to file? Am I gonna do? I want to try to be an actress. I don't want to be a dance And the dance was so much more um you know, I was. I was doing compete and it was something I had to give up that I I went into acting, Sorry, I went into dancing. And I think that what most attracted me to that was you could be and you could pretend to be I was being an actress while being a dancer. You could pretend to be things, and do things and and
interact with people while dancing. So it was kind of like a place where it was a relief for me. So the dancing took off and by the time I was sixteen, because in England you can you can come out of high school at sixteen, and I wanted to do college, maybe psychology if the dancing wasn't going well. But it kind of was. So I were you elite, so elite that people were like, oh, there's a future
with her with the dancing. Yeah, like a future where you can get paid and live a life because a difference in being a good dancer and then being someone that actually support yourself off of dance, yes, total and this, and it makes me sad because there are so many incredible, like insane dancers way better than me that I watched on on Instagram and YouTube and all that, and and I know personally that that can't make it to a point where they can make a living off of dancing
because there's so few jobs and especially in the boyman Latin world does really only strictly come dancing in England or Dancing of the Stars in America and those franchises throughout the world. Um. And and that was it. And there was a show called Burned the Floor and so I went into theater. I m how did that happen? Oh? Yeah, I got a show that toward England for two years and then I went and did MoMA me in the movie with Meryl Streep. That that movie with Juan Pablo
really that? Yeah? I knew Juan Pablo when I was eighteen and Quan probably on the show you know with Cheryl um so We. When I saw him on the show, I was like, I freaking know you you were you were in Mama Mere, What did you do? Mom? I was hend hen so there was like twenty Hen's not like chickens, like we were Hen girls, like hen party girls. And and so I was the youngest cast member on the on the movie, I think, apart from some little kids. Um, and there was twenty of us girls and twenty of
US guys. And we were like the singers and the dancers and the actors in the background like kind of like her friends Amanda's say for its friends. And then I did UM and then like four or five West End shows the day dancing, and then I got into Burn the Floor which is where I met Sash and Burn the Floor is Dancing with Stars, but England, right, No Burn the that's strictly come down. So Burn the Floor is it is a Broadway show. That didn't I
know that. That's why I know it. Then Shannah did, Peter did, Sasha did, Kim Johnson did so many of the Dancing with the Stars cast did Burn the Floor. It's not a reality show, that's actually a production, like a Broadway production, no dialogue. So you do that, and how does that transition from that to being on Dancing with the Stars. They see you and go like it's
like Suturain in Live where they got in recruit away. Well, no kind of they did do that, but they came and saw Sasha before I was even on burn the Floor. They came and saw Sasha and um and so they knew they like certain people. And then cut to two years later. We've both been on burn the Floor. We were together at this point, but we've only been together for like two months. We were in South Africa. It was all like new and fun and still fun now, baby,
I promise, but so so. Dancing with the Stars contacted Sasha and says, look, we we remember you. Your auditioned for us two years ago, whatnot. We want you to come and be on this this new we're extending the cast. We want you to come and be on there. And I was so excited for him, and he was, you know, ecstatic. But at that time I thought, well, oh, this means that we're probably going to be over. We've only been together for two months. You know, I can't expect him.
He's going to go and live in Los Angeles. I'm going to stay on the tour. Um, you know, I can't really expect him to stay with me. And then he went and he hacked onto my Facebook, which he will deny, and he denied, and he requested to be my boyfriend. And you can't even deny this. I remember where we were standing and and so I was like, oh, this is awesome. So I a second that I could um. He went over to l A and I quit. I
in a nice way. I told him, akay, I'm going to leave the tour, that I was on the burn the floor, and I went over to visit him, And to be honest, at that point in my life, I don't really care. I cared about work. I definitely was very direct, career driven, but to me, I had this overwhelming feeling I always knew I was going to be okay no matter what I did. I was like a cat.
I always thought I'm going to land on my feet, and so I wasn't really nervous about quitting, even though I really had no intentions of even being on dance with stuff. They didn't even know who I was. I'd never met them or anything. So I got to l A, and my wonderful husband here boyfriend at the time, had arranged meetings with me and the producers, and he was sweet, and so I went and did that, and then we went back after that season, we went back to US
earlyer to surgery. He had surgery, hernia surgery, and we stayed at your parents house and um, and it was I knew he was this the guy for me for sure, and then they called me up. But I mean, it was it was. It was kind of interesting because we were kind of basing everything, Like she left burned the floor. We were at home and we're waiting for the next season.
We were kind of thinking, okay, so what's going to happen if like one of us doesn't get it all, Like we were just going to play it by you. And then I got a call in the morning, really early in the morning and they're like, Sasha, um, I would like to have you back. This is great, blah blah blah. And then they call and they go but unfortunately there's no room for ever. And we were like, oh, that's okay, and and was the sweetest person there is and she was like, no, no, no, it's okay. Please
don't stress about it. This is to the producers. I'm totally fine. I had a great audition, it was great. I enjoyed being in l A. I'll be with Sasha. So then when she put the phone down. We put the phone down, We kind of had like a few seconds of science and we kind of went, this is going to be great. You can come to l A. And then um, literally, like I think it was like maybe two days later, they called back and they go, actually, um, we're gonna have you. We're going to have you on
the show. So then she had to remember that. Yeah, I remember. It was one of those moments where it was like so surreal because we planned to both go there together and then all of a sudden, not not shadowed dreams, but then something happened that we weren't planning for, and then two days later it was just like the best news ever, and we went got our visas straightaway. You've got yours before mine, even yeah I got to
I got my visa before yours. But I remember we had like less than maybe two days to get on the plane and go over there. And then I also was running out of pages in my passport, so I freaked out that it wasn't gonna let me in. But it worked out then. I mean, the best part was you know, going to l A together this time it wasn't just me and finding a place to live in
buying our first car. It was a Volkswagen Golf guys with with a hole in the driver's seats, so when it rained, it just flattered the hole inside this car, I was like, I really like golf, so like I really like Volkswagen Golf. So I remember like them being
quite fast in England. But that was only because I was sixteen and I was looking at my friends with Volkswagen Golf, and so we found it on Craigslist, bought it and it would be for sixty seconds every time because it wasn't it was in a car crash, so the door thought that the door was open, so once you get in for about a minute, the beeping noise of the door open would just be like beep beep.
So when we took took her for a test driver, I remember the woman had her music on last, so you want to hear the exactly, so like, don't worry, it goes away quick. So sually when you talk is funny to me because you have our Strogan accent, right, But you were born in Russia, correctus, But you were one of because there are a lot of Russian Ukrainian dancers that were around dances and all this was new to me. All the touching and all the foreign it was all new to me. Come back to I know. Um,
but so you were from Russia. Win, Like, when did you move? So I moved to Russia? No, Well I was born in Russia, So you're Russian. I'm Russian. Okay, you consider Russian Aussian Russian Australia. Yes, So when do you go from Russia to Australia. So I believe I was like six years old. It would have been in one or ninety two we moved to Australia. Well you were, because that would make you nine. Maybe I was nine. Then this is why I have heard your accents very
Australian though. Yeah, so that's good. I want to try to keep that. So you go to Australia and do you dance in Australia? Correct? So we didn't really have any money in Russia to kind of pay for dancing or do any of that. So when we moved to Australia, I tried absolutely everything. It was basketball is too short, karate was way too good, swimming too short, dancing, didn't even think of dancing. And there was a school dancing school right outside my school at this point. I was
about twelve, nearly thirteen. That's late, huh to get in to start dancing. I mean, yeah, it's a bit late. But I was a bit of a troublemaker at school and at home, and there was always a line of girls outside this dance school, and the ratio looked amazing to me because no boy wanted to dance. So then I kind of just went into the school and I was the only boy in this dance school started dancing.
I had different partners every day. It was the best day of my life every day, and we just started dancing. Did my first competition, kind of did pretty good, didn't expect it, and it just went on from there. Bare room dancing was not cool like these days that people want to like say, oh bore room to say, I'm a borom dancer. That's so cool because of shows like Dancing with the Star, So you think you can dance strictly come dancing. So um to be a born dancer
now is it's cool. Back in the day, we would always wear fake tan. I would have to lie to at school. I've just got some kind of rash. H It's not rash from head to toe. Bahamas last night and yeah, it's just it's been the best roller coaster of my life. Did you do the Australian version? I did do the Australian version as a pro, as a pro. Yes. Was that your first was that it was before dance was as America? Right? Uh? No, dancers starts, so it
started in England in America and then you did England. No, I mean like the actual dancing, but you're a part. Did you do Australia first and as a pro as a pro? And so you and what are the celebrities like on Dancing with the Stars Australia. They were good. I mean we had a lot of fun. I had a girl called Nikki Webster. That's the thing too, That's the thing, not you too. I'm just saying that's the thing, a recurring thing through all the show. You're just you're
so close. It is it's like a marriage, which is I've never been in anything like a marriage until this. Now, actually I would say it's actually a little better good. I mean we went through all when you're with someone again, you guys just every season, which is crazy to me. It's like here we go again, rinse and repeat. Such an emotional world coast and there's the meeting part and you're like, oh boy, I don't know how it's gonna work.
And then the great times, I mean sure not, I get some big fights, big fights, but and then we would be like, oh, well, we mean to a lot together. So it's like, I think that's what a marriage was like, right, Yeah, through thick and thin, you can have these blowouts. Put at the end of the day, you're still you still have a common interest and you're still working towards something together and that kind of like unites you, so don't
you can't forget it. It's like you know that in the end you have each other's back, yeah, because you're We were together every We didn't take a day I don't know if you guys do you normally take days off.
We did because merely got injured sometimes, but it's not normal, right everybody usually, So we didn't take a day off from the first day we heard of practicing, and we were practiced for sometimes seven, eight nights, sometimes twelve hours because I didn't I wasn't getting it right and I never spent that much time with the human ever in my life. It was the whole world opening to me just just in human. But don't you agree, like that's the best part of our show. Like every season is
a new season. And for the celebrity you go on literally on a roller coaster. It's not something that's like you know you can do in two minutes three minutes, you really do transform into like a dancer. And I remember specifically you saying like, bro, this is like I'm never going to dance again. This is done, and then bam, Bobby Bones Dancing Stars Tour first to left on the road, Boom. I did go out and do some dates with you guys. Yeah.
It was also I felt weird too on the on the bus because an issue for me is I didn't want that star room because it's a big room while all you guys sleep in the box, I'm in like the King Dingling sweet back there, right, And I remember going, you guys, I don't have to sleep back here, like I'll take a book, does anyone else want it? Because I didn't want to be that guy. I never wanted to be that guy ever through the season through even
on tour. I didn't want to have Hey, Bobby's gets the big bunk and they were like, no, this is how it works because all the dancers have to be equal, so whoever comes in as the star takes that room. So that was that was a bit weird for me to come in, and I just want. I felt weird about winning. I know you do, you feel like you but you're so um, You're so modest. It's almost like sometimes when I watch you, it's like disabilitating. But don't worry.
No one else has a problem with winning. No one else has a problem about sleeping in the in the room at the back, it's actually pretty bumpy. So I mean when I tour, we have a bus. My band tours, so I'm I was used to it, um, and I don't want sleeping on that one because I paid for that bus. So on my band's touring, take the big bunk with the chandelier, like give me all that because I actually but you know that one. I paid for it,
so that one's that one's fine. But I felt weird and I just don't want to come off with Doucy the whole season. I just wanted because I was so grateful that you guys would help me. And I was never afraid to ask for help because I'm a big believer and if you want help, go ask for it because people will do it and they're happy to do it because they've often asked for help before, Like helpers
have been the most helped. I feel um. But yeah, I did the tour, but do you know I told him I don't want to dance because I didn't do any dance numbers at the little spots. But I was like, I don't want to dance. Guys said the same thing. Yeah, Like, and I told Joe before he went on. I was like, I asked not to dance. I was like, so I didn't want to and I was having to dance with somebody new because if I could dance with Emma, I
would have done it. But because we talked about it before, I was like, hey, Searan is not going on tour, and if I can dance with you, I'm gonna do it because I would have felt comfortable being an idiot and and learning slow. But they had me dancing with Hayley, who don't really know that well. It takes me a while to warm up with people. And I was like, it's gonna be hard. I'm gonna hold off, I'm gonna I'm just gonna do my So I did dance with
all the dudes. Yeah, of course. And so it was only like a few it was only four shows or something like that. Yeah, and Joe has gone the whole tool without performing once. Let me let me ask you a question, Bobby. If if Broadway was to come up to here and say we have a spot for you to do, what to dance and sing? If it was very Broadway right there, that doesn't matter to me. The Broadway part doesn't know, no, I mean, it just depends. That was no. Do you know what would be better fitting?
If you were to, like you got you're going to host the Oscars or the Tony, I would dance in that. Yeah, that's you would be the opening number at the Tonys. I would dance on that. I dance all the time on stage, even when I play guitar. I can dance the play. But it was just the choreography part. And not only that, the science. What I learned about dancers was, holy crap, you guys are gifted. It's not just you guys are go out and dance. There's a there's a science.
There's a professional athlete aspect to you guys that I never knew that I was introduced at the first day, I walked down with Sharna and I was like, oh my god, she's a professional athlete. All of you guys are professional athletes. I know. I just thought you guys like to go to the club. So they were like, come on in, what did I know? I don't know anything. And then the touching, It was so much touching. Yeah, it was the first day. It was let me do
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culture is so physical. Yeah, it's like, Hi, nice to meet you, Okay, touch my nose with your nose, grind into my pelvis. What's your name again? Yeah? That's what I felt like. But that's the best part. No, it was once I got it, I felt good about it, and I would come back into this room and be a little too fis of goal. I'd grab my course, come here and grab her hand and she like, what are you doing? Like you know what? Sorry, I'm in
the culture. So it's not weird. Let me ask you, because we have no experience about being in another like environment like workspace. Is it weird if I came in and I was all like the dancer that I am in a workspace, would I have like HR department come down on me hard? You may not because you're a woman, right, and women are a little more touchy feely. But if I did, absolutely, and from with you guys, you're married, is it it can't be weird because this is you
guys life. But if I've got a partner and she's just grinding it up, it's nothing. Huh no, No, No, I've never like, I've never yeah, I've never had an issue with like that at all because we both do it and we both understand what it is like it seriously doesn't. It means nothing. It's like brushing your teeth. There's like no emotional attachment to it at all. That's it's it's all right. It's actors I think that get it worse, Like imagine like the sex scene, Like, what
do you do? Then? I know, if you're watching your husband and they're like the actor and they have like a sex scene, Oh my god, I don't know. I couldn't watch. I'd have to like fast forward it. But what you guys are feeling about that, that's what I feel about the dancing. It's just that, Yeah, it's it's wild. And I mean everybody thought that Shannon and I were having sex because you just looked like that they do. Everybody thinks that everybody's together all the time. Like and
I were together for three years? Did you know that I didn't know that. I never brought it up because I eno if I was supposed to, so when I didn't bring it up to him, not even like I just don't anything about it. Yeah, yeah, Sashion Shana was together for three years or three years or twoyears three years? How did that work out? It was good. I mean, I'm sitting in front of my wife here up. Me and Shanna laugh about it all the time. It was never a could even six months after they broke up,
we were all on the show together. No, no, it was right six months after they broke up because we only got together. We were on together for two months before and this was like right after they broke up and she went on the show with Sasha and I didn't. So they were on the show together and I wasn't even word we did out at all about it when you went on the Trust and that's a good thing.
You guys are troope, right, And she started truth And so what troop is is on Dancing One Stars now like Morgan is true, Hayley is true, Breat's Troop, then our tour Brandon and it's like if I'm dancing with Sara, all the other people dancing our stage, those are yeah, extra dances. So you started as that, yeah, And I mean being on troop is kind of in a way harder than sometimes being a pro because you're constantly wanting to prove yourself to show that you can be a pro.
And I feel like being in the troop you learned so much a about people around you and be um to become a better dancer, to become like a better performance. Is that the goal when you're doing troop to get on the show as a pro. Yeah. I find it's more competitive being in the troop than it is being like a pro on the show, just because you know, you constantly want to do the best job, you need to be seen, and um, it was definitely yeah. Competitive whenever you get the call would be to go from
troop to pro. Pretty nerve wracking to go I'm about to do your my own thing or pretty exciting. We both And it's funny because we both got that call on the same season season the same season. Yes, she was dancing with snooky Nicole. How is that? How is Anthon was snooky for it? Seriously? We had so much fun. She is a ratchett. She's a character. And I remember her dad was like because she had kids then, um and she had to fly. We had to fly to
Jersey every time. But then there was one week, like you know, like the team Dancers something where we had to stay and her Dad's like, okse, Nicole's going to stay this week, just please, you know, look after blah blah. Of course, so we get I get to rehearsals and I'm like, where is it called? Ten minutes? Fiften minutes, She's never lated, twenty minutes, thirty minutes. I call her. I'm like, yo, we're right, we got rehearsals and and she's like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, what are you doing.
She's like, I'm getting another tattoo. I was like, oh shit, how far did you guys go? First season? First season? I think it was week seven out of ten. Ten And so your first season, Emma, who did you get? I got Bill Angfold, comedian, the comedian, nicest guy in the world, married us. Yeah, he married us. He was the guy. Yeah, like like I called him my fad,
my fake American dad. Like we jelled straight away, and he kind of became because when I first got Tomes with Bill, I was so excited that I wasn't even on the show, but I didn't know who was because I'm British and he's very much like a blue collar comedy group and everything like American, all American and so um.
When I met him, he was so gentlemanly, like I love his wife too, charming, um, just lovable and he stole could not dance really, I mean he was actually turned out to be like in the middle of all my my partners in terms of ability. Um, but but wasn't really a great dancer. And it just turns out that he just stole everybody's hearts. Like everybody's hearts. They all fell in love with him and um and then we ended up going all the way to the finals
and and came forth. I remember and I remember, you know, like an elimination and it was our team dance. It was like week seven, westing there and they're like and they love to do this to us, and they're like, Okay, couple in Jeopardy, Nicole and Sasha couple in Jeopardy, Bill and Emma, and then Bill and Emma. By the way, every single week from about week three were the ones
to go home. We were in the bottom to consistently, and every we were the ones that were gonna, oh, they're going to go next, They're going to go next. We were that, and we were I think we were like fourth or third in the leader board at the time. And then I remember looking down at him and I'm like, maybe I love you. I'm sorry, And I didn't. I knew it was us, me and built like I didn't even think. It didn't go to my mind for one second that they would call their name because it's our
first season. I didn't know how they work, and they do do that a lot. They do want the shock factor. I just assumed it's us. So what we were making out peace and I was looking at Snooky and I was like, I feel so sorry for her. It's gonna be horrible. And they're like a couple going home tonight is Snooky and Sassa, and I just word, what the fun? And I started like crying straightaway, that's fun? Um? Did you and Drew get put in the bottom all that? Like?
Didn't they? Drew Scott property brother? It was great and he was one of the guys that really before I came on the show that I went to was like, Hey, should I do this? So he was wonderful to me. But you guys got put in the bottom of light and then we went far right. Oh yeah again. We made to the finals two and we were in the bottom a lot. He's just his six ft five and um, like, oh my god, I can't say enough good things about him.
He's just he can put energy. He's one of those people who can put energy through twenty four hours a day into whatever he's doing and never get tired. So we had a blast, weird flight to Toronto and and and he's dantaying like he found he found the natural groove. Pretty hard, but he would pick up probably faster than anybody else has ever had, Like he put picked up Carregrey really quick, but then naturally it just wouldn't come. He was quite tall, so he kind of stuffered a
little bit from the lanky business. But he was pretty he was pretty decent. But we were in the bottom a lot, like pretty much. We were like bottom three, I think on the first week, and then he would improve a little bit, but we would always be in the bottom, and then we ended up just going to finals. And that freestyle that I did was probably my favorite out of all the freest els, like, and he nailed it. He did really well when I went to him because he did what I was going to have to do,
which is worked the whole time, multiple jobs. He did. Yeah, yeah, I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna do the show. I just signed to deal with ABC. They want me to dance with the stars. I've never danced. I was like, have you danced before the show? And He's like, before the show? Never, And I said, I have to work like every day in the radio. I got a tour. I'm doing stand up the first four weeks of the show. In the last week and he's like, dude, He's like,
we flew everywhere. He said, we just had to find time. He said, you have to prioritize and go when it's time to go train. It has to be time to train. And so having a talk with him was really good for me. Him. He was one of the guys that gave me confidence at least I could go and put effort into it. Having other jobs at the same time, you guys were probably on a pad with just how busy you are because you were working. I remember your
schedule a lot. You'd have to wake up in l a and it was the schedule that was The hours never bothered me because again I've worked hard forever, had to from just having to pay car insurance or rent. Yeah, but the hours at one o'clock. So I think what made it makes it hard is when you're when your mind is free. So, for instance, you get up in the morning, you're gonna get your coffee, You go to the studio, you're like, okay, it's coming up. You open
your mind to a four hour rehearsal period. When you're so busy, you you switch off one thing and turn another thing on, and what what you find? Sometimes is you learn it and you get it, but because your brain doesn't have time to absorb it, you've switched off from one thing to another really quickly to do something else. That when you switch off that to go to another thing,
a bit of that has left. So that's where I think it would have been so hard for the people traveling because you don't have an open mind of like I'm coming into the studio, I get up in now earlier, I do my normal things. I get ready for it. Day starts. You do it, it absorbs, you leave you rest, for instance, like your gig, you know you would have to do something else. Switch okay, let's train train, train, switch off, get onto a plane. You don't have time
to kind of absorb it. So I think that's where, like some of the celebs have it so hard, but they do incredible. Who and you wont Emma? You want You? And Richard won that? What was winning like for you? Um? It was? It was so unexpected. I have like a few things about it. After I won. I was mad at myself forever thinking that I couldn't win because I really did, Like I was kind of typecast in the show. I always got the lovely country guys that were a
little bit more mature. That was my type. That's what I would always get cast with. And so when I had Richard, I really was only given Richard because as an NFL player. All the other girls had had danced with NFL players apart from me, So I was kind of like the only one they could put him with, and I thought I'd hit the jack part like the lottery. He was. We were like best mates. He was so lovely.
We never had a cross word. Every time I would give him any kind of correction, he took it like a sports player, like okay, and and I can't say enough good things about him. He was He was my teammate like completely throughout that whole um, that whole season, and he would really be stronger than I was. He'd be my rock because I knew that if I didn't perform with this guy, and if I didn't take him to the mirrorble, that was my fault. I knew that
for sure. So I felt under a lot of pressure to really get there because he deserved to be there, and people were telling me, you know, this guy needs to go all the way. And at the same time, I felt like I started to do dances with Richard that I was really secretly quite proud of because I really started to believe that I wasn't able to put things like that together because of the way my seasons had always been, Like I guess I just got into a state of this is what it is for me.
I'm never going to win, I'm not really good enough. And then when it happened, it was like it changed my life because I this is the highest that you can get on a superficial level, this is the highest you can get doing what we do as dancers and in this job. And then on a much bigger level, it made me realize I got to not do that. I can't put myself into a place where I can't believe that that that I can be something else or
do something else, or be as good as other people. Um, I everybody else can think that of me, but I can't think that of me. So it really did change my life and I had this air of um confidence in a good way, like never never anything other than that, but like I felt so much more confident after that
that it really enriched my life. It really did. Secually, haven't one yet when you hear that what are you thinking, Um No, I I feel like I've had some amazing partners and I've grown to me, winning is to to see someone transformed, to change. For example, I had someone like Tonya Harding, and the backlash that I would get from it was insane. And you know, listening to Tanya story and you know she's she's been. You know, I didn't get involved in what happened, but I never even
asked what happened. But you know, people make mistakes, people get second chances, and it was just incredible to be there with her. You like her, I love her, I love her, and you know we got along so well, and she was hilarious and anyone she would cross path was path with. They would leave laughing and happy and smiling,
and you know she would just transform. And from day one, you know, when um we did our first show, the backlash was like just trying to stay positive for her, trying to keep and motivated to you know, the last we made the final and people were like cheering for her. We got standing a Asian flipped them, she flipped them and just to be there next to her to see her like smile again. You know, she would talk about like ever Since that day happened, her life has been
completely changed and dancier. The stars gave it the opportunity to kind of relive moments that she didn't get the chance to do. So for me, things like that are winning until you win, and then you're gonna be like this. Well, the good thing is I get to see the trophy every day. You know, I'm looking at her trophy? Where do you keep yours? Everywhere I walk? I kind of like figure out where's the most common place that Sasha's going to be, and I just pop it there. No,
we we put it in the dining room. We've kind of got it, like when you walk in on the bar in my kitchen, Like, so it's right there, it's right there. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I got yeah, I love it. You've got a showcase that you're gonna be proud of it once in a lifetime. They catch me and asked for it to keep it for a year, and I was like, no, not yet. So I gave up to that. But my mc hand jacket, so I'll let him hang that up in the museum. But I was like, you can have the mirrorble it means too
much too me, right, Now, isn't that crazy? Like a dance competition? You know, who would have thought like a dance competition would mean so much. It's because you guys go through so much to get to that spot. People don't realize how hard and how rewarding this competition is because all they see is the final product. They don't see you flying from one city to another, learning trying to dance and learning this, and the pros being like
giving you all this work to do. They just see dancing the blah blah blah, and then you come out, get your scores, do the flaws fall over? You know what I mean? They don't. They don't see the hard work. So when when you guys, you know, get to a specific weaken the competition or get to tell a specific story that no one's ever seen about you or heard, it's kind of special because it's the first time people get to see it and you walk out a better person. What if you get a partner and you never say
any names. But what if your partner and you're like, there's no way we're gonna win. Oh, You're like, there's no way I can say, I can I can speak about this openly? Like, so after my first season with Bill angviol Um, I was just off of the troop,
got pro for the first time. It went really well, we got two finals and then um the next season, I got Billy d Williams, who was seventeen six at the time, really lovely guy, but but seventy six and dare I say, mobility wise, probably even older than that, Like he really he was so challenged physically. He couldn't he couldn't move, let Loane dance. So I was just I was constantly just trying to keep him positive and hold him marp and um and make this as comfortable
for him as possible. It wasn't even remotely about entertaining or trying to get as far as well, trying to get as far as we can, but like it wasn't even remotely about winning. That's a different season. When you get someone like that, you just want to make sure they have the best time of their life and they have a really good experience, and that you can make it entertaining for what they can do. But it's more like, you know, I need the troop, I need lots of set.
I need like you know, pyros and bells and whistles. But but for sure, and Billy D had to pull out because of yeah in week three, Um, he had to pull up for I think back injury. Is that frustrating for you though, because you know, not on him, but you know I'm not going to last that long. This is a season if yeah, yeah, I would have. I remember thinking in that season, I really wanted to dance with Charlie White, which is actually Shanna's partner. I'm
just being super super open. Um, I really wanted to dance with Charlie White. He had the best personality. He just I loved his laugh, like he was so happy, and I bet I was like and on top of that as an ice dancer, like an ice dancer, and I was like, yes, I can had a great season last season, I can win this season. That is the guy that I wanted to anceer with. And I actually thought that I was going to meet him the day
that I met Billy T. Williams. So so when I met Billy T. Williams, I was laughing to myself so hard because I was thinking, why am I so stupid? I I completely thought it was going to dance to somebody else, but we I ended up having a really good friendship with Billy Dean, and we even started sharing the same publicist as well, who I still used today. She's great. But it was a great season for for
different reasons. I knew I wasn't gonna win. I I it wasn't going to be about the dancing, but I got I got to go to a lot of comic cons and I got a lot of and I got a lot of um like what like interesting conversations, and people want to talk to me because I was stancing with the Billy Willy Billy Willy, Billy t Williams Billy Willy, And again you have to say, but you ever get partners, you're like, we just don't get along the whole time, and you're like, this is miserable because that sucks. I
don't know. I don't know how that would be able to work if you don't because again Searnee had wonderful times and if you really rocky times, but if we didn't like it, if you didn't like each other or an't even really respect each other, there's no way that can be a healthy relationship. It's hard. Well, I never really had anybody I had a partner that I would say I wouldn't be friends with outside of of working together.
But I never really butted heads in a big way to where it was a huge deal with any of my partners. I always said, I've been so lucky. Yeah, there was maybe one that that it was different to what I thought it was going to be. And probably and and as a result, don't really um, you know, having to continue friendship start anybody like that with you
like brutal. No, not not really. I mean I've been really lucky with all my celebrities, and you know, as the most thing that would hurt the pros is because you put so much time and effort into it and when someone takes it kind of for granted. And I mean, to be honest, it hasn't really happened to me. All the partnerships that I've had, I've stayed really really close friends with. I mean Simone and Terra Joe. So tera Jo was the first little person to be on the show,
and I danced with her. She was great and we had so much fun. I mean, she's got a mouth on her and we just we talked like once a week still and she was great. Yeah, and then you guys get engaged on the show. Yeah, I was scary on the show, and I think it was a consolation prize because I got eliminated the week before dancing with Rick Perry um, and then the next week we got
engaged and it was insane. I was trying to grab his butt on TV because I just do that, and he had the ring in his butt pocket, so he was trying to hip my hand out the way. But when we stopped, like in the dress run, I had no idea what was going on, and it was coming at all. And first of all, that song is our song, so we kind of acknowledge, Oh, this is our song,
you know that. I messaged Ashley and I was like, this is the song went on with him, Um it was Bruno Mars the Way You Are and then and so we were dunce into that and I thought, oh god, that's great, baby, listen, it's our song. We choreographed it.
Next thing, I know, the wardrobe feeling, they're putting me in my favorite dress, Like it was a dress that that kind of like started, dare I say, started a trend on dancer side like see through like really gorgeous and then um and everybody always talked about it, so they put me in the dress and I was like, oh my god, this is like the address and the dress, the song, the dress, but I still didn't think of it. Then Shanna saw that they put a mic pack in
my dress, which I was eliminated. They didn't need to do I'm not speaking, they don't need to do that for the show. But she didn't say anything, and I didn't even think about it. They told me, oh, Tom was going to ask you a few questions, so in the dress run he didn't. In the actual live show, Tom comes over, but I was prepared for it because they said he might ask you. But then in the dress round we finished that it was a bumper, and a bumper is something that you do, like a little
dance thirty seconds from dance to dance from commercials. And Aaron Andrews was watching in the dress rount and she's like, oh, well, you two already getting engaged. And I just looked up at her and I just went, what just happened? Why did she say that she didn't know one you there was? It was an organic thought that was organic because you know,
the chemistry was just amazing. And then um on the live show, tongue comes up and he just goes, Sasha, I know you've always wanted to host the show, so I'm just gonna let you take it away. And then I looked at Emma and then Emma's face was just like I was. I knew it was coming the baby and she went and I just was not at all cool or gracious at all, Like my face was awful. I just hyperventilated so hard. And and then and then yeah, we got engaged. It was awesome like at that, Well, listen,
we've done an hour here. Wow, yeah, we've done an hour. UM's your social Sasha yours is Sasha Farber right at Instagram? Yeah, Sasha Faber one? Was there another Sasha Farber? Is there another one? Zero? You haven't had to buy that problem, Sasha Farber one. Emma yours is the Emma slates on. So there's Emma Slator already taken a Sasha Farbar already takes Yes, Emma Slater is a horse rider in England. Someone has Bobby Bones too. It's like a kid who
got it way early. Yeah, they won't sell it to me, try to buy it like three or four times. No, really, he doesn't really use it. But the money keeps going up over the years, but now it's like I'm assigned to mine. Yeah you got Mr Bob like that. Yeah, well listen, you two are my favorites. So we're gonna go hang out and and actually talk human stuff. But um, I'm really glad you got to come by and you get to come to the studio and glad you're in town and so all right, I'll see you guys back
in California. Thanks, But right now it's is getting a car and go eat. But other than that, Yeah, alright, this has been what Mike what episodes is? This has been episode one seven of the Bobby Cast. Thank you guys for hanging out with us, and thanks to our sponsors, and we will see you next time. Mm hmm