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#155 - Bobby (and Eddie) talk greatest duets of last 25 years

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Bobby read a story about how songs with features have a better shot of being a hit. Bobby and Eddie break down the best 25 Duets of the Last 25 Years. Bobby gives his Top 5 Country Duets of all-time and breaks down the best from the pop charts and they also get into the 27 club. 

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I come from another place. Yeah yeah. Eddie is my music friend and we sit and we talked about music a lot, which is kind of where the stem from of reading an article that if you want a song to be a hit, the best thing to do is to bring another artist in. Like most times when you

bring another artist in generates interest. Usually if you bring an artist and that means are good, people know them up so kind of duets or the thing and we can look back at something like f g L meant to be, which bb Rex all right, And this song worked multiple formats because bb Rex is a pop artist, and on the different formats, what's funny is they played

to the strengths so much more, meaning country. They did a whole lot more of f g L and cut some of the bb pop. They did a whole lot more bb and cut some of the Florida Georgia line. Like it was like this long piece that they could, you know, manipulate whichever way they needed to for people to listen to it. I remember hearing that version of of bb rexas singing the you no need not no not her part. It's it's the regular floor to Georgia line part, And I was like, that sounds so weird

because I was used to the country version. Yeah. Sense, So the story is that I can read you this here. A new study found that songs with featured guest artists or duos over the past two decades have become top ten hits. Right and Maroon five mc Cardi b Honey an girl Like You. Yeah, that's the same one. I like money moved this says girls like that doesn't name of that song. They messed up the who did that? That's why we're the expert on the podcast. Remember Katy

Perry and Snoop Dogg doing California Girls. That's a good one. Yeah, so and they left some of them. Eminem and Rihanna doing Monster that the fire Monster, Eminem with Dido doing Stand of course. I big that one was huge. That's that One's was that stand? Yeah? Yeah, no, not stand No, It wasn't Stand. My teas rock. So what happened with that one was Hey, but he's fan. The name is stand. Just wow, You're right. I didn't realize she put that out herself after that that song alone. So, uh, thank

dude teaching the stuff right now, I like that. I wasn't planning to talk about that. I'm going from memory here. What was that died? A song called you can look it up? No, I don't need to, all right, I'll look it up because I need to. Um, it's probably called I want to thank you. That's not it for giving me the best day of my life. Yeah, so she made this into a real song and released it after she was on it. Yo, slim, it's me day. So that's the minm vertue. So this came out after

stand Yes, I believe again, I'm just going for that. True. I would have thought hip hop they sample this is original. This came first and then they sampled it first. Stand But no, I'm not saying this was already created. But it's so why aren't we like just infiltrated with duets? We kind of are now if you look around features and duets, And that's my point, and I'm gonna get to some some of the new stuff and even the

best duets of the past twenty five years. And by duets, it can also be a feature, right, I just used do it if there's two people singing in a song. But this is stand you know, it comes to mind. It's like John Mayer like he I feel like he's the dude like he dates a girl. He's like, hey, feature duet with me because like really like he doing Taylor? They were dating, right, So I think that story again. I'm just pulling up out of my butt right here.

What I think about the Taylor one is because that would be half my heart, my god him, Okay, it's John Mary Taylor Swift. I believe that she was more prominently in the song from what I've heard, could be wrong. And then once it didn't go so well, they kind of pulled her back a bit some background like she's saying versus. I don't know about versus, but she was definitely more in there. And then John Mary and Katy

Perry did who You Love? Yeah so good? Yeah, Like I've half of my heart and see if there's any recollection or if I made it up or if I no insider. And when you geek over the stuff, like what kind of research you did? You just google everything? Or I talk to people that are really close you have that advantage. Yeah, well it's my job, and those people they just kind of vomit all that information out, Yeah, because they know I don't share stuff like I'm if

I note like their stuff. I know about songs the country music right now, who they're written about, it would shake the know. But there's one song in particular that if I was like, oh, you know, the song is about blah blah blah the whole what. Yeah, dang, that's crazy and it's so cool they trust you with that, Like, dude, you could really just like, but I don't want to because then no one will trust you ever again. Mike, you want to talking about now, Okay, it doesn't matter.

I'm not gonna say. I'm not even gonna allude to it. Dang, that's so cool. But if you prove trustworthy, then people trust you. And you have to show that you're trustworthy and little bits first and they give you middle bits and then finally people are like I one to love

music first and form more than I love gossip. You can say, God, I love mother than I love gossip for what it's about, Like I love you and the thing about my ex girlfriend's record when it comes out later, I haven't heard it, but there are songs about me. But I respect the music so much that she was like, hey, should I send you these songs something? I was like, nope, because I'll be like, don't put it out, but I want your record to be what you wanted to be.

Zero songs got me, ten songs about me. It needs to be what you're feeling. So from respect for the music and you as an artist, don't send me crap because me, the humans gonna go. Don't put that out. Me, the person who loves music goes. I don't even want to hear it. You just should put out what you want to put out, and if it's slamming me or are loving me or mostly slamming me, then that's what you should do. Yeah, slamming me. Yeah. Do you like

knowing all that stuff? Though? Like do you like knowing what the song was written about? Because then then your mind just take there. I know sometimes not because I like to assign at times my own narrative things. Because I think we hear a song, we go, this makes me feel this way, But if we know what it's really written about, we can't feel the way that we would have loved to have felt or we feel the way that we were needing to feel. Mike, do you

find thing about that? Okay? Then if finely not true? Well, you know I didn't say okay, so that could be it. It could be that the version that you're hearing without her really is because they pulled her back off of it because they decided she didn't she shouldn't be on it. That really could be it. So I wonder how all these go down to, like how did they get asked? They probably say they're probably lay in bed. I was just thinking, and that's it. You're like, all right, let's

go Tay. No, but they were dating, I thought, or maybe it was after the fact, and then they recorded, and then I don't know, no, because you needed Aniston after Taylor or before, and you know what, I know stuff about that doesn't matter. I know too much. I'm going to stop talking. There are those places to where I got because I know too much. Um And I don't even like to stand up too much because then it's like shut up, oh cool guy. But I have to stop because I got to say something I supposed

to say. That being said, I want to hear this list. This whole thing is the best duets of the last twenty five years, and one of the recent duets is Brandley Gilbert and Lindsay l This song right flying up charts right now your ex girlfriend? Right, what happens in a small town? Stop? When I read that article about features and duet, I was like, Oh, this is what's happening now with the Brentley Lindsay song. It's not the kitchen my girlfriend, but separate everybody. So there's that one.

What happens in a small town? We'll do some country was first? All right, let's by the way. Eddie was like a bad goodbye dude. I just like, I mean when this song came out, and I'm kind of like you with like the emo music like stuff that's just pulls your heart, dude. I remember being young listening to the song and get interior and I'm like, what do I know about this crap? It's club black and don't know why judge. Now, to be fair, this is not inside the twenty years I missed it, But what when

is the right year? I'm sure it's something. Can you fast forward? Because when they hit that like towards the end, when they go power like song, it so much it's given me like chill, remembering, like being a kid here in this take it, dude, you know how far do you want to go out? And didn't? They're both because when it does the verse after this and then they do it together where that's the powerful. There's no good,

who's good? Whenever? Man to leave? Try to keep talking you through here it is there maybe no way and the cloud up to clear. Did I can't leave? We the mag good bye, good good dude, I can't. So you remember it? Of course that was so powerful and I don't even know if it was huge or it made all right. Listen all the time I kissed the thing. That's what my min was k frog. Yeah, that's the valley. So I didn't make the list, but I did um put it up here because I was yours. Did this

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Remember Brad coming in once and I was like, due, my favorite song you've ever done. And I don't know if if that's insulting or it's not an insult, but it's like insulting because to him, he's done so much and he's had so much, so he's had so many songs he's written and put out down. He was entertaining of the everything right, but this song, these slow songs to this is and when one of the best, like top five best country duets, and I have my top five,

they're not really any order. This other one, it was not a single this I'll Be the Moon. Oh dude, I just I listen to this now still, like it's in my rotation of songs to listen to. Yeah, and I'll Be the Moon is Dirk's and Marion Morris. Yeah, Ryan heard wrote this, and dude, honestly, and I'm pretty good at listen to music and breaking down lyrics and kind of understanding what they're saying. And I never really

paid attention to it. But when Ryan Ryan one time talked about this and talked about, you know, is it being an affair and then being okay with that. It was like, and that's what it means, Like you're gonna metaphorically call that the sun and the moon, Like he can be the sun and I'll be on the other side of the world be of the moon. And it's like, I'll I'm okay waiting if that's the only way I

can have you is that I'll be the moon. That's intense, right, Like that to me is like that's just the thinking that never would cross my mind. And they turn it into a song, a beautiful song. I don't want to be I don't want to be a secret if you want. They came in and played this from Dark's record. Yeah, I had Darks and Maren come in and play this together. Dude. They were like, I'm not a single. I was like, I don't care, just play it. He can, I'll be okay.

But you said that they may they do these things kind of like as ah, like, the most of the data says these are most successful, so this is kind of why labels do sometimes put these together and arrange them and release them. But in this case, this wasn't even a single. It wasn't a single. I don't know why. And sometimes they don't make those decisions till later. They could have recorded it going to be a single that

for some reason ended up changing. Interesting Remember Dark's put out a song called what the Hell or something, and they pulled it because darksn't like Hell being a single, and so all those factors it may or may not have changed what the next single was, what the next single was. Because you don't do two slow songs in a row. You don't do, you know, so, I don't know why, but that song is so good. That's in my top duets years. I also have picture from Kid

Rock and Sheryl Crow. I mean it's classic, right, shoot one eight years ago? Would you consider this country? I don't know why. I don't think Cheryl's country. Then he's not country now? Really kid Rock has never been country kind of he lives in Naville now, I mean yeah, wolves in London and oh yeah, I guess that was Yeah, what was that done? It's hard to sing another song when this one's playing. That called anywhere fishing on the ducks all summer long? That song note might could be

pulling up picture. Cheryl Crow wasn't the original singer on that song. Who was another country artist? Really? Yeah? And so and again they were dating kid Rock and show Crow? Were they not when this one thing? I don't know if they were dating then or not, because I feel like that's special to like if there is romance between that probably how you get them or you get him in the studio and then you start dating after it. It's like a little tactic that you do. Yeah, It's like, Hey,

I want to meet somebody. How do I get them to come in? Ask him to do a duet? It's like putting somebody in music video. Who was Alison More? Yeah? So she was the original one on the song. I mean huge, huge advantage to put Sheryl Crown. That could have that could have made the song. Yeah, are that crazy?

That is a crazy good one. That's one of my top I love this You and Tequila from Kenny Chesney and Grace Potter two thousand ten Quill made me crazy, jam right so good lacks and my blood harmonies right here. One more n could kill wan just want to? One more is never It comes so good. Put that on the list. Another one that I put in is the Brooks and Done with Reba. Yeah, cow Girls don't Cry? Yes? Is that a duet or a triplet? Well? Or is

that a three way? Is that a threesome? It's two artists, like brooks Don's considered an artist, but yeah, they should make another category for three and then they would dominate it obviously because this is good. But it's like two artists. Yeah, I'm just saying girls. The whole song is like the dad's like telling her, hey, you fall up a horse. Cowgirls will cry, get up, Hey this happened. Cowgirls will cry,

get up. And at the end, the dad's dying and she's like, she's the cowguys like because cowgirls don't cry, and it turned it on him. That's that's a good one. I put that in the top five if I had to do one more, because I have a bunch of them up here. Whiskey the Laby, I'll be the moon. Cowgirls Don't Cry. That's five. You know the one that you have more, You have more on there? I do like this is the probably the ultimate, probably the biggest. Again,

the ultimate. We know Tim and Faith like they're married. It's love. So that makes all this way more special than just two artists singing a song. I wonder if there are a lot of duets where people were together and now they hate each other and we feel worse about it because on the show, on the radio show, we were talking about the song from Dixie Chicks, Cowboy Take Me Away was written about Emily Robinson and Charlie Robinson no longer together and they're not together, but it

was written about, you know them, seeing that happen. It was written about Emily fallen in love with Charlie. Wrote it with Marcus Hummond about Emily and Charlie. Now they're not together. But if you know that story, do you think of it differently and go, oh, this has written

about their love? Well, ever since you told that story, I heard it a couple of times after that, and I've automatically thought about that story now, so I don't even think about I mean, I don't know, I never thought about anything, but now I think about Charlie and Emily, like it doesn't kill it that they're not together, because that's real life. The fact that they got divorced whatever, real life. We never would have known that that story

wasn't even out. But the song, I mean that that that still lives, like you talk about that song still lives and if it was about them fallen in love, it will always be at them falling in love. It's five o'clock somewhere, Alan Jackson, Jimmy Buffett. Did you like this one? Yes, you like Jimmy Buffett. He's my favorite.

I was never a lover lover of this song. There was a guy in high school named Brian Wagner, and this dude was like a surfer kind of kid or whatever, and his parents were big Jimmy Bufett fans, and he got me into Jimmy Buffett, and I loved that whole like party margarita's and parrots and like tropical vibe. Like I just love his whatever he stood for, that's your thing.

I'm a beach guy man. Buffets my dude. So when you put Alan Jackson, who was I mean, the king of just country music, nineties country really like the Chattahoochie and all that, and then put him together with Jimmy Buffett and loving life, I wonder how many of these two were saying in the same studio back in the day versus now. It's a good question, because you have you, we have like the raging idiots. You have duets with We have duets with Carrie Underwood, Harry Charles, Charles, Kelly,

um Kelsey Ballerini. So and how many of those were done in the same time exactly? Well, maybe same room, but we were went at the same time. Like when Carry went up to saying you were there, I wasn't there, correct, And I think I'm have been sick or something, and Carry went up and just nailed it and was like,

all right, So that's just us. And why would you try to schedule time and you're busy schedule to both be in the same room unless it's a special moment you have to be there, Like why would you why would you record at the same time? Technology? Man a video? Okay, I guess that was I mean videos now, like, no, they don't really matter that much anymore. People don't way too much money on videos now and I've never I don't see him. You need to put up a lyric video,

the one with the bouncy ball on the bottom. Anything? Um one more Arthutrian jam, big jam. You know what I've realized about talking about this. I like my duets slow jam. What's the fast one that we talked about? One fast somewhere Okay, yeah's true, but all my favorite the ones I pulled are all slow ones. Yeah you did say bb Rex in Florgia. Oh that was an example that was the top. Yeah, but again such a big one, like massive, so right, Dan and Jay not

to do it, but there are two dudes. Tequila was such a big song had the FJL song not existed, that song what it said every record, But that's how big the f GL song was. It blew people's It was so big that haters and country music didn't want to acknowledge it was that big country music haters that they didn't even want to acknowledge it. Uh, pop, here you got some of the best duets, Jay Z, Alicia Keis, it's still good. Yes, it comes on and but Eddie,

I wonder if it's because we're late thirties. This wasn't my thing, Like I wasn't listening to this kind of music when it came out, but it stood out over everything else when it did come out, So I was like, I don't care, I love it. And then Alicia Kis put the song after that is the song? Would it have been a bigger song of it was Beyonce? Because again I feel like it's really important. Beyonce is not from New York, Texas. He he doesn't acknowledge them that

song Texas. I think that the reason that Alicia Keys does it is because it's a New York girl and you need someone in jay Z the New York game. So I don't think it could have been Beyonce speaking of maybe off track a little bit. But do you think Alicia Key is gonna do good at the Grammys? Yeah, should be fine. They won't put in a situation to not do well, meaning they're not gonna have her up

doing a comedy monologue. I just don't see her as a host, Okay, I don't think they have our traditional host Like she'd come out and do something a little funny. She'd probably play a little funny song, maybe on her piano. They won't take someone like that who's so good at what they do and put them in a whole new world and give him a chance to fail. You get someone like that for their name, what they're good at, and you let them do what they're good. You know,

I mean, it's good answer. Uh do you remember Mariah Carey boys man? Once we day what no play? Let me see no You're shining down on Me from Heaven. No No, this song was massive. They sang this together in the studio and videos out from Heaven minting we Lost along the Way and no no if this song was so big it number one for like twelve weeks. I've heard it. I've heard it one sweet day, there's boys to men at their height and Mariah Carey height. That's a massive song. Holy crap, that's a big one.

Remember the song this is Megan Trainer John Legend from two fifteen wasn't like a super super super smash, but I loved it. I feel like that was last year I come saying goodbye day like the roles. I love it because I had runs called runs Yeah, run ye shallow from Stars Born. Oh yeah, it's actually something good? Oh you happy and loose model? Need is there something news? You search? You fool food? Like the movie I've never

seen it. Oh you haven't seen this movie. And I'm not gonna be one that goes to the greatest movie ever because it's not it's really good. But when you say something's really good, it's usually right. You don't really you're not to follow the hype kind of guy. And I wanted to not like it. That's how much fault not follow the hype. Guy. I wanted to be like, come on, guys, my roll my eyes. It's good. Yeah, I've seen other versions, so I know how I kind

of how guys just thinking that cuff we have? What do you think about him? Though? Like, I mean, this is gonna it's already want some awards, right, they're playing it at the Oscars, right, So I mean, this is Bradley Cooper. This is why I like it so much. The movie is because he had to he had to do that. He had to get to sing, he had to learn to play guitar. Oh, he didn't know how

to play guitar or anything. Nothing and sing and do and then he gets on and does our great jobs to him man, and then as someone who you know plays music, and then I know, like in the big scene at the beginning where he's playing a huge, huge stadium or now it's each festival, like that was no stage coach, stage coach, and like you just see all the things they had to do to make that movie work,

and it's really cool. You'll like it. You should watch it, will Yeah, And then it reminds you of like other artists too that we know, and you're like, well, and then Eddie Vetter is my favorite, and he wouldn't lived to darn his behavior mannerisms. Remember this one dilemma Nelly and Kelly Rowland. Of course it shook up every of course, you know. The other one was Nelly and Tim McGraw. Yeah, which I'm surprised that wasn't one of the country ones.

Well because it wasn't country. Was that a Was that a big pop hit? Yeah? Over and over country really did country I played at all? Only pop did because it's all in my head. Shook my world out. Dang, dude, you're right, yeah, I think about it over and over. I mean, think about when this came out. For Timogarald get on a rap record, it wasn't something everybody was.

The country wasn't doing that wearing his cowboy hat. And for Nellie to be able to see out to the box and go, let's bring out a country singer, they were way ahead of their time. Nellie's got something in him where he kind of like maybe he doesn't see genre lyons or something, because he's real close to country, Like maybe it's from Missouri. Maybe That's that's always what I thought, Like, you grow up in the Midwest, you know, someone considered almost a stuff that you have a country roots.

And I mean he's done Cray country grammar, country grammar, all of that. I feel like he does have country deep country. Did he put us all they wanted to go country? At one point I think Nellie did. Yeah, this shook it, That shook b b REXA FJL meant to be obviously. You know what song I loved to do? It was any of the best duets of the past twenty five years in my opinion, that Pink and that Nate rouse from Fun when they did. Just give me

a reason that was I love this song. Yeah, that's clearly a fun song, right like the band Fun because it sounds like them. I hate them not together any fun Like this guy's got one of the best voices I've ever heard. His range. It sounds like a girl sometimes sigh. Must have just something going on because Jack the guy now is in the bleachers. Yes he's the he's the guitar and bleachers are good now. But it's

not Fun. But Fun was when Fun came out. It sounds like we're saying, but that's not fun, man, the fun The band isn't even like current to people, and and they only had what they weren't around for that long. Right as far as far as they're like huge success, I don't I remember a blit of their warriors. Yeah, that's nothing. Funds first song some Nights? Was it some nights? No? No No, no, that sounds like it said that one young I thought it was weird that I could be wrong.

What friends are in the bathroom getting hired than she is waiting for me just across. This is not a duet. The band was just so goodlass and then Nate Ruce can never take off himself. I know, I gave it to you months ago. That was good. And then after that was I believe some nights, some nights, and then this is that jam. But my favorite was carry On too. Still it's still my favorite. I love it again. I'm a sucker for slow piano carry on, carry on. So

I woke to the song. I'll listen to this today now. I never reminded of it, like nine to listen all fun today. After if I played, I was like I player and I was just jamming out to some other stuff. You know what. I the what trail I went down recently was the Seven Club trail. I didn't mean to, but I just kind of started listening to all their music and brought me down a little bit. I wouldn't have just doing that, can I can I give you the other side of that, a bit of the darker

side of it, and not in a bad way. But I would say, because here's you want to give the story, the seven Club twenty seven club is is the age twenty seven that a group of artists, I would say artists because they're even I mean I even think maybe Heath Ledgers in as well, but like artists died at age seven, and they call it the twenty seven Club because they're all probably still together in heaven or something, you know, some basic right, So okay, let's let's get

one on as I tell the story. For example, you're going Cobain now, I was gonna go Jimmy Hendrix, Nirvana, Amy Winehouse, Um, Jim Morrison a lot. Right. Here's my theory as to why it's actually not bad, which it makes it kind of dark. I don't think they would have been able to create such magic stuff had they been normal. You know, this is my theory anyway to create and we always have the argument we create crazy stuff. You have to be crazy to create crazy good stuff

that's so so different, you have to be different. And I would say what made them special is also what killed them. That they were out of control, you know what. Where they were out of control musically and had no rules, they were also out of control in the personal life that had no rules. You can't just kind of pick a spot and go, I'm fully nutty in this part of my life. But you know what, I'm gonna count

it the rest of the day. So the fact that Kurt Cobain was able to take a sound and elevate it. They didn't create that sound, you know, they were actually the first ones from that scene to bust through with that sound. But the fact that he was able to do that, he was only able to do that because he was nuts. That music would have never happened had he not been reckless and crazy and nuts and and

that same characteristic is what killed him. So if he didn't have if he didn't have the characters that killed he would have had the characters that made the music. Amy Winehouse the same thing, Jim Morrison from the Doors like that. Dudy was insane but genius at the same time, and what killed him was his insanity. So my thing is, Okay, it sucks they all died at but we had never had their music, had they not been nutty to begin with? Did that make sense? It does? And I agree with

you for some of them. I don't agree with Jim Morrison or Amy Winehouse because because Jim Morrison had a band, like a really good band that made really good he was the poet of that band, you know, like he wrote, he was nut But I think I think music historians and music geeks talk about like, oh, but listen to the lyrics of Light My Fire, and I'm like, listen to that sound and listen to his voice and listen to the doors as a whole. But him, he was

a good poet. But here's the saying lyrics that no one ever understands. Anyway, I thought, I love your thoughts, right, what he had to be a total package frontman for this to be seen. He would perform backwards, with his back towards the crowd, exactly my point. And he also pulled his pecker out and play right, and no one liked that. But my mom would like the Doors would not be legendary without him doing frontman things. Lots of people make good music, lots of people make good music.

We don't hear all the good music because of good music. There's something else about it that makes it go Oh. I don't know if you can ever try this. Name a band that's boring but makes fantastic music and got famous. Zach Brown Band. I'm not. I'm not saying they're born. They're just what's to them. They're they're great talented that makes that makes good music, but they're not like but they're current. Again, we can't assign their place in history yet.

Zack Brown Band, Okay, Alabama, you know what I mean? Like they make good good I don't think you can be at my point if they're not me really exclusive like Amy Winehouse. We'll talk about her first second watch the documentary I did, and I loved it, but me as a consumer that you finished on the Doors real quick. You're saying the Doors wouldn't be the Doors without him

doing all that crazy stuff. It's my point because their legend and their nuttiness preceded them, Like you knew that was nuts before it even got to you, and it made it bigger. And the fact that he died made it bigger. Absolutely all of it did died live in that way. So they wouldn't have made their art if they didn't live an already lifestyle because and a lot of already not all, but a lot of already lifestyles are filled with excess. Some already lost aren't, aren't filled

with excessive drugs and alcohol. Some are filled with excessive working out. You have to find your excess to McGraw's, they happen to find theirs. And uh, you know, physical sure, because I agree, I agree with with Jimi Hendrix. He would have never liked he would have made that music. All that music would have never come out of he wasn't an ass. Same thing with her Cobain, And you you think he's making that stuff on here, correct, And that's

why I do that. But she but she's saying like she had her voice soul came from pain and that pain wasn't influenced a bit with the drugs and the alcohol. Yeah, I'm not even arguing that. I'm absolutely right. I just that's my theory on it. I had to explain to my kids because my kids were with me when I was listening to it as I just got into this hole of talking to them about the twenty seven Club, and I really meet explaining to them what happened to them.

You know, it's like, how do you explain to a eleven year old why they were in the twenty seven Club? They made bad choices, like they were too creative, they were they you know, they didn't know how to handle certain things in their life. Like it's sad because when you get when you're twenty seven, you're like, dude, whatever, man do whatever. Live your life that way. It's cool. When you're older and you have kids and a family,

you're just like, damn, that sucks. They didn't make it past that because Jim Morrison probably wouldn't mean if you were still alive. L You watch a documentary on right did Right Again? She doesn't make that's super soulful, painful music without pain? And what do you do with pain? You try to make the pain go away? And how do you make the pain go away? Well, one of the ways is by an expression expression. So yeah, that's my point. Let have to be right, But that's what

I that's how I feel. We wouldn't if they didn't die that what killed them made them awesome. Hey, how many times we have this conversation a lot um that the crazy thing about Janis Choplin we've spiraled and well, yeah, we'll go back to do it when I will finish for almost done anyway. But the crazy thing about Janis Joplin is that her biggest hit didn't even come out until she was dead, which is um me and Bobby McGee. Yeah,

and she didn't write it. Christi Stofferson did. That's right, right, So this didn't even come out really until she was dead. Who gets all that money? He does? He wrote it? I mean she gets some of the master I don't listen. I don't know how deals were done. Then, you know, there's far less money and being the artist in the if you don't write the song, there's really not a

lot of money in making the record. A couple of tricks that artists do now is and I'll just speak in general terms, if you're a major, major artist, you can almost demand writing credit. Even if you don't write, you can get in and change. That's just a split split of the money you can get into. And it's different because in pop world you can get in it. So let's say you're a I'm just gonna do someone I don't know anything about on that level of Beyonce,

and Beyonce doesn't touch a word of her song. She could go in if there are five other songwriters and be like, hey, listen, I'm not gonna cut it less I get a writer's credit, let me change a word. And what are they going to do? They want exactly? Um. In the country world, it's different because here that's all on equal percentages for the most part, and there is a there's a respect here of like you don't cross anyone. Most of the time. Most I know artists who've got

on song as they didn't pop me. But most of the time. One in particular, I was like, that's dirty. I remember this. Yeah, I remember thinking the same thing. Dirty want they change one word only so you get writing credit on it. It's a word for a third. I believe they say that, now writers, did you change the word, you're now a third writer of the song. So um so that. But you know, if you're sing on a song and get a little bit of the

master money, But it's all in songwriting, all in publishing. Yeah. You know, one time when I was in my old band, like you know whatever, fifteen years ago. I'm tied. Look it up and I'm tied. Yeah. I did Bob Dylan cover and I put it up on my Space and like within two days Bob Dylan's publishing. It was just like, first off, it's terrible Dylan's brother. Yeah, and it was it was two options. One you can pay us, or to just take it down now like pretty much, which

is like you know, I've had to. We were just a dumb band, like a garage band. We're like, okay, take it down, Bob Dylan. I don't like this. Well, this was the best duets of the last twenty five years, and I believe that's what this podcast is all about. Yeah. Anyway, the point is duets features are massive. You want to get it hit, get somebody on that's different and as cool or cooler than you, hopefully because people like to see song with multiple people on it. It's like having

it for dinner. Do you want one course? Sure, it's good, you know, like chicken, let's cool. Get some corn on there too, sure, Like you know, like you go to Chili's, they have like the just pick two of this whole item. Like, pick three of the item you want? Do you want a little bit of everything? I get it? Not enough? Not makes Janna Schoplin wants the documentary and go read the story about this song because it's fantastic. Guess what I know we're from is this song for the most part? Um,

you know what's our two? It's like, I mean, what a piece of my heart? What's your fate tale with? Yeah? Mercedes Benz mail made piece of my heart? People knew that was jannas Shoplin song. Oh yeah, oh lord, won't you buy Mercedes fins? Yeah? My friends all drop Porsches is making man so good man? Yeah, okay, good talk dude, Thank you, appreciate you coming by the podcast. That's episode thanks to our sponsor. And that's all. We'll see. We

should have a Laura belt on that right. All right, she's write a bunch of song no duet stuff for me, but hurt. Yeah. Podcast, all right, thank you guys. We'll see. By the way, check out Eddie's podcast, The Store Losers Sports show podcast. Eddie runs that show. Well, lunchbots would argue with me, but that's what he does the whole She says, he is the sports genius. Therefore he knows everything about sports. Now you have it. Also check out

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