#151 - Jake Owen Returns (1-15-19)

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code bones. Promo code bones get ten percent off I love it life flock dot com. All right, welcome to episode one one of the Bobby Cast here with Jaco and which a lot of hype about this one. Wait, no, kidden, did I get special music on the intro? I don't think you had that last time I was here. Well, last time you're here was episode fifty three, so it's been a hundred episodes. And last time I wasn't here, I was at a different place. You have upgraded since

I was here last Yeah, I moved houses. Yeah, this is nice, man, it's pretty sweet. I was. I did not feel threatened driving down you know, your your hood. My other house, it was very exposed, like you were. The front door was on the road. Yeah, I remember that, And but I moved there. What happened once in my old house it flooded and I had to buy a place like in a day. The house that I wasn't flooded. No, no, no, So um my, I had a condo downtown, right and I lived on the top floor and it was a

really cool place. But one of the maintenance men was was banging on a pipe and the water main busted and it went through the water problem and went through every floor its million dollars of damage and all the floors it went through of the's living rooms. So I lived on what floor, like the six every every floor flooded and then to move everybody out of the condos. So they were like, insurance is gonna pay for you a hotel and that had a dog, and I was like nope. So I went and bought a house and

that was the house there. I bought it like a day. It's cool. It is a cool house. It's cool area over there. This is a great house. It's a great place, and it's a great time to be back. And yes, I was wondering how people, if people might be excited that we were chatting, because I haven't talked about it

a whole lot. But the people I have, they're like, man, we listen your episode of episode fifty three, because it was the first time you and I had spoken in a while, because we don't know, we just hadn't talked a while. We got to a pretty good fight and all right, is a disagreement, but it was one that you could have with someone because had we not been close, we had never been able to fight like that. Yeah, I still don't look at it as a fight. Though

I listened, I learned a lot from that. My point is, if we weren't close, we would never have allowed that to happen. We would have either said it's not worth it or we have walked out. But that was the biggest single show ever until I went on to Dancing with the Stars behind the scenes for two years. Yeah, I got beat out by Dancing with the Stars. Talking about I didn't. I didn't even get beat by John Mayr. Not John Mayor, not Chris Stapleton, you see Chris. Yeah,

John is a big one. So wow, that's pretty Why do you think that is though? Is it because word of mouth? Word of mouth? Or is it also I think possibly it was because there you have a great knack of of introducing and talking to people and bringing them out of their show. But it's rare that you

come out of yours and ilished me a bit. But what I would hear from people, even our artists and creative peers, was I've never heard anything like that between two people that I know he's going at it, and they would tell their friends and that was a word of mouth show, all right, But that's how everything gets shared now, you know. Whatever on like, how do you watch TV shows now? Like? If you watch them on Netflix? How do you get onto it? Speaking of which I've

I've really recently got into that. I've never had internet before. Um. I was always in a place where I didn't have nice, uh efficient internet, where it was always like they start throttling me because I only had like satellite or something. But now my friend I have Fiber. So I've gotten into the Netflix. And where do I hear Netflix from? Usually either some friends, which is a good thing for me because if I'm the kind of guy it's gonna

sit there and watch Netflix. Um, I will spend more time watching or trying to find something to watch than actually watching something. Man. My point is we trust our friends because they know our sensibilities. Same thing with that show. People were just telling people about it, like, oh my god, there we heard Jacobobby be Friends. We'll call it that, we'll call it. What are you watching on Netflix? Uh?

Do you watch bird Box yet? Yeah? I just watched that the other night with my girlfriend and she is the one who said, everybody's talking about this, we have to watch it. And it was kind of disturbing for me. To be honest with you, um. And then the ending really disturbed me because we don't say what the ending. I won't at all. I just think I would say this to anybody. Um, it's a cool movie. I guess it's kind a very interesting, just the way the whole

plot is. Whoever wrote that it's a book, I thought it was some about a true story, right was here? That's what because when I thought, like a zombie story. It's exactly because when I heard that a true story, I thought, Man, I don't. I'm glad I didn't know about that that year, you know whatever, last year it happened. It's not story, but that was like it. Um no, No. I appreciate movies for cinematography. And I think Sandra Bullock, who I haven't seen since like that thing she did

with Keanu Reeves or something Speed I haven't seen. I haven't seen her since the Speed days. But she did a great job. I mean she looks good too, for I mean it's been a lot of years since Speed, so she looks she looks the same. The I liked it, but I watched it earlier lea before the anytime the hype gobble something up, it almost can't live up to the gobble. There's almost no way that movie could have lived up to where it sits now, because anybody watching

it now it's gonna go it's fine. But I will tell you though, as much as I said that I didn't like the movie and it was blah blah blah like I was the night before last, I think I watched it so that the next morning, when the sun came up, part of me felt a little guilty looking outside it, like, you know, the sunshine. I just didn't know what's gonna happen to me. So I feel I liked it because I have never seen a Netflix movie that was good like that. I went, oh, it was good,

and I watched it early. But really, yeah, what what TV shows do you watch? I don't, honestly, man, I don't really watch any TV nex I've enjoyed. I like Godless. I've been watching Godless. I like westerns. I love good westerns, like like movies like Lasting the Mohicans and stuff like that Dances with Wolves. I was always a big fan of those kind of movies. Um, so I like that

Godless is really cool. It's about this town where all the men died in a mind and so it's just the women are left there to maintain this town and and rebuild it, and people are coming in trying to buy the buy the oil there. So that's cool. I'm trying to think what I really hadn't got anything. I do love I do love watching on It's only on iTunes though, But Mike Judge did Tales from the Tour Bus. I don't know if you've seen that. Check that out?

What is that different artists? So my Judge basically was

right King of the Hill. It's basically that. But so he goes in the interviewed, he's interviewing, um, let's say Johnny Paychecks, some of Johnny Paychecks band, or Whaland's band, and then it'll it'll be like all this time Whaland, and then all of a sudden it switches to this cartoon of whaling and its whole skit, and it's all these real stories that happened that he brings out through these interviews, and it's just really it makes you go, Wow,

people these this day and age that think they're badass, they're just not. Like, what's it called Tales from the tor Bus? What is your girl watch? Because she has to rope into things right, m hmm, not really, but we have a lot of similarities where we don't tend to watch a lot of um watch a lot of television, and you don't count Netflix's TV, like just me saying

that you didn't go right to Netflix. Uh well, when I think just I'm like, it's kind of like saying like, hey, I want to coke, and they're like like growing up and there's like a coke like sprite coke. You know what. I don't know. I kind of just use it as a thing. Uh No, I think just I rarely well, like last night, I sat there, I watched the National Championship football game. I guess I dates this podcast. Sorry

that all right? Everything listen, we're talking about bird Box won't even be a thing in four months, but um okay, and I think that's gonna be what keeps network television live relevant, live events because we're getting into with everything music, even my radio show, even television, Like we want everything on demand when we want it right now, and that's that's gonna be what everything is. And I actually have

no problem with it. I think a lot of people get upset because I've been like that in my whole life. You just wanted it right now this second, everybody's talking about how people want that nowadays because of social media and stuff like. No, I've been like that for forever. You watched the game I did wasn't pretty? Huh? It was. It just wasn't a pretty game I thought. I mean, it was well played by by Clemson, but it just wasn't what I thought it would be. How's how's I

haven't seen you? You went? Life is awesome? Well, you did the USA show and then I went off to Dancing with the Stars. Before that started, we both kind of were like, all right, see on the other side, TV is different, isn't it. Yeah, it's a whole cool on. Yeah, that's the thing. When I did Idol last year, I went in for like four episodes, right and I was like,

oh my god, that's been thirteen hours here. Then they used nine minutes of of all of the stuff that I did, So yeah, I kind of learned the hard way there. How was that show for you on USA? It was really good. It was, I mean, it was super interesting. And by the way, I feel like I need to text her back. I feel so bad I'm even saying this on your show, But so Shania Twain Um and Travis Traitt on this show together. It was the first time I really well, I never met Shania,

and I in passing met Travis UM. And it wasn't necessarily the greatest experience. It wasn't so much Travis was like at the time, like eight nine years ago, playing show and like his crew just wasn't cool to our crew. I forget what it was. But so I didn't know how to take I don't know how Travis was gonna be and I definitely never met Shanna. Travis was amazing,

I mean, one of the kindest, nicest, coolest dudes. Um. We had some really great talks about classic country music in my adoration for it, UM, and then Shania was it was was great. Um. It's just interesting, like she's in another another world as far as um the way that I think she sees because of what her career has brought her. You know, Like I don't think there's very many artists that can relate to selling a hundred million albums, So what does she see like talk about

that for a second, don't understand. Well, I don't mean to say that as if she she thinks she's better than anyone. She's just uh, I don't know. I wondered that. I wondered what her perspective was. Her perspective on the show was definitely a out bringing diversity to our formats. What she did, I mean when she came in, she wasn't necessarily no one thought like she was the countriest

girl in the format. She kind of was breaking barriers and I think that's how she sees it for all for all um artists, guys, girls, anyone that was on the show. She brought that aspect. Travis Trip brought the aspect of wanting to bring back real traditional country, which I love too, but that was his thing. Mine was kind of what I am. I mean, I love all kinds of music. I love traditional country. Um, there's some lots of new stuff coming out that I'm I love.

I feel like fall in love with these artists and then um, and then I love like modern pop, anything like some cool any kind of music. I'm into all kinds of stuff, so which I think anyone like our generation and below are like Napster shifted that for everybody. When Napster became a thing and you got all this music for free, then you took all the music for free, and it just kind of made you, Oh, things aren't uh consumed or the delivery system is that regional anymore?

You get whatever. I'll never forget, I mean, and I mean it's like I'm growing up always loved, you know, my dad like Grandy Travis and Keith Whitley and Verne Gozin and guys like that. And I loved Allen Jackson and George Strait and He's but they would always talk about as artists who they loved, you know, Alan Jackson talked about how he loved uh, Hank Williams and and

and Merle Haggard and guys like that. But at the time, as a kid, I wasn't going out to the store and spending all my money on on Merle Haggard records and stuff. And my dad had this old Verne Gozin

and Keith Whitley Greatest Hit seed. And anyways, when I got to college and Napster came out, I remember going cool, I can check out Merle Haggard down and all of a sudden I was able to check out all the Merle Haggard stuff for Whalon Jennings or Hank Thompson whatever it got me into that now as a as a songwriter, as an artist, and knowing what that did for a lot of people as far as their income and how it changed everyone's world, there's a part of me that goes, yeah,

I was so mad at Metallica when they were like, you should not get this for free, right, And I was like, suck it, I deserve it for free. Was an idiot. And now you understand. I understand because I

streamed content that I create, Right. But here's the Also, here's the thing that I'm I'm I'm an advocate of I love it, I love streaming, I love all these these platforms because all I ever wanted to do, and all anyone ever wanted to do that got on a bar stool or picked up a guitar for the first time, was have a few more people at the campfire, you know what I mean, Like they're sitting there playing their

song and they just kind of your look. You look up after you played some bon Jovies song or something, and you just hope that maybe people thought you were good and more people came. And the only way for that to happen was some people to hear you do it. So on any of these platforms like that. Now, to be able to get the music out there quicker into the massive amount of people is what we all set out to do, and without it we would be a

little bit of a disadvantage, I think. So I love for me to take it, put it everywhere you possibly can. Uh you know, for me, the issue becomes with streaming because I streamed everything. I don't I don't download anything anymore. I think most people are. I shouldn't say most people. I think people that are on the listening to this, the techie savvy er people are streaming most things. Um. The problem is how they're starting to kind of use the metrics to go this song has this many million

streams because I can due that. I can spend three d bucks and put a song on me farting and I can buy a million streams. So I don't trust anything when someone goes, oh, new artist, They've already got seven million STA on this song called Honkytong Joe, and I'm like, guys, I can actually, so I don't trust anything. And now what I like about Apple mut But that's

the thing about streaming, though. It gives you the opportunity to buy into whatever you want to buy into right absolutely like it, pass on and go to something else, and you can go you can listen to everything. Two things that does. One for me as a person who I really enjoy music and I have and I don't consider myself anymore the guy who is trying to break music all the time. I just play songs that I like. At this point, I'm a personality. I just play songs

I like. But I have people constantly going, well, there's ten million streams here, and I'm like, you know what, I know an artist who has fifty streams who actually sells tickets, and you have ten millions and you can't get seven people to come to a ball are like to me, the only real piece of data is how many people actually come to watch you. Yeah, well that's definitely the truth and the problem too. And I again, I'm as a consumer. I love streaming and music to

me just goes. I love it, Let's go the next song, like I love it. I love streaming so much because I can just I can listen to John Mayer that I can go over, to Post Malone that I can go over, and I can listen to read the Franklin and it all costs the same. However, it also makes music a bit more disposable because of people like absolutely absolutely,

but there's there's a lot of disposable music right now though. Anyways, I think no matter what it is, no matter how people get their music, people recognize stuff that that that they relate to. And then there's the stuff that's just like here today, go on tomorrow sort of thing. And there's always been that. But as an artist too, that's what the artists have to understand is that it's a lot it's gonna be now because of this streaming. It's gonna go, you better go, and it's gonna be a

lot more fickle. Like I'm really fortunate, and I mean this as I told you earlier as we were chatting off this, um I'm so. I don't mean this arrogantly and nothing. But it took me a while to get here. It took me a while to be at a point in my life where like I wake up some days and I I, you know, I'm thankful of saying my prayers good Lord for what he's giving me, but I look around and I think, like this wasn't just given to me, Like I've worked hard for it. And on third,

twelve years into my career. Um, I feel I'm really proud of that because it's a fickle business man, especially as I as as it's I I see it too right now too, with a lot of artists, younger artists, their path is a lot quicker than mine was because

of the streaming. When I first got my record deal in two thousand five, As weird as that sounds, it wasn't that long ago, but there was no iTunes wasn't out yet because the iPhone wasn't even out until two thousand nine, So that isn't that weird to think about that day. But I looked back at my career and I think about there were times I was frustrated because people weren't hearing my stuff faster, they weren't doing it.

But now I think about that and I think, well, it gave me an opportunity as well as a blessing because it gave me an opportunity as an artist to learn from things I shouldn't maybe have done, or learned from music I made and who I needed to be more as an artist. That by the time I figured myself out is right when, right when that was popping

off and people could stream it. And nowadays, like artists, you better have you have your ship together when you come out, because you're gonna be judged by that first song. And yeah, you can continue to pop stuff out because like you said, you can put whatever you want out, but it better be quality and it better be something that otherwise it's just another song amongst the sea of songs, and the CEA is just flooding more than you can

ever hold like. And even on a good song, I find, and I'm sure you do this, I find that I'll fall in love with a song. It's a good song, but next week there's another badass song that comes out, and I'll go a few weeks and go, oh, I forgot about that song. As a consumer, I love streaming so much because it gives me the opportunity to listen to all I want, whenever I want. It's just like a big Thanksgiving meal that never ends and every days Thanksgiving.

But as someone who has to use and have to hear people talk to me all the time how good something is, I can't listen anyone tell me anymore. Yeah, look at most right, but I can't look. It's not I'm not mad at them because I would do that too, but I can't look at metrics and that that they're feeding me going. This has ten million streams and believe it. Speaking of metrics, man, uh, this is the This was

the most listened to podcast last time. I just hope at this point I've been thinking, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like at this point in the podcast, I've thought about it. I'm like, are we doing good enough to really start thinking about it? It It doesn't matter. You're gonna fight about something. Hold on, let me um, let me, let me do this commercial real quick. I love a lot of things, right, I love sleep. I don't always get the most, but when I do, I love it

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bad thing. It's actually a good thing. That it's no, no, no, it is a good It is a good thing. And that was my intentions. Um. But see, here's the hard thing about having being like I came from. I had a lot of things in my mind and things, and it's coming from having a family and getting married and having a little girl. Um, and then then moving off to order. Uh. It wasn't long after that I met Erica and we started thinking that there was this part of me for so long that was scared to admit

that she was my girlfriend. Not to not to the public or anything, but like I was worried what my own daughter would think. Like Dad's already moved on that quickly. I don't know what it was in my head. Um, but all along, um, I've always known that, Like Eric and I have always just been like, it's just so easy, it's so great, and she's like my best friend. And uh, anyway, how did you find out? Like was she like I think I might be pregnant? Like was she like, oh

my god, I'm pregnant. How did that all happen? Um? Well, see here's the thing, man, I know how to make a kid, you know what I mean, Like I don't, Well, it's easy, it's very I don't know if we need to go into it on this on this deal, but I mean everybody knows how the first part, how to get there. It's just a matter of you know, it's like it's it's like for it's you can't leave it neutral, you know, you put it in drive and um, so I knew like the day I put it in drive, man,

and uh. And so when she told me it wasn't a surprise, it wasn't like And I think part of it for me is is that we're not married obviously, and that's the thing, like I just don't give a

ship what people think anymore. I think I cared about what people thought, like when I remember when I got married before and had my child or got married and because my ex wife was pregnant, I just remember reading stuff and thinking people were like, oh, here here goes one of those typical marriages where they'll be together for three or four years and then they're divorced. And I was like, it pissed me off. And then you know what, it happened. And it wasn't because those people said it

was gonna happen. It is because like her, like our own reasonings, and um, now this time around, I felt like I wanted to keep it sheltered. But with with feeling that way, I've also realized that, um, it wasn't fair necessarily for a long time to Rika, because like I never want to hurt I know a woman ever wants to feel like they're like they're not, they're not.

No one knows about it. And I guess I bring that up because you said last time you're on the show was the first time you really told people about here, And uh, I'm glad you said that, because, yeah, I guess maybe part of me maybe you should have been a little more. No, I don't. I think a little bit. I kind of crowbarted a bit. I'm like, what's the deal, what's the deal? And you know it's cool. You're like, well, I mean, so not to put you in a weird spot.

We've been did it for like on three years, so it's you're not putting me in a weird spot at all. Dude. I'm in zero weird. I'm in zero weird spots in my life right now. It's pretty great feeling. Actually, I've never felt this way. So I've never had an announcement to share, like I'm having a baby. So whenever you guys find out that she's pregnant, when do you go, Well, we have to tell people, like what's that I told people?

I would tell people publicly, like No, I I definitely tell people probably like I remember when she told me. We went to uh, we were going to Bellevue to do something she told me the day before, and I was so excited. I wanted to tell someone, but I couldn't tell anyone, but I realized but I could tell someone that didn't know me, just to tell him to

get it off my chest. And I remember we were in like Michael's or something to get something for like, uh, like the craft, and uh, there was this lady standing behind us in the line and she was just kind of looking at me, and I was looking at her and like kind of did that glance of where it's like a nice like half smile so they know you're a kind of human beanie. And she kind of just how are you today? And like my answer to her was I'm awesome. My girlfriend's pregnant. We just gott out

and and UH was like, what are you doing? How came you're telling her? She's like, oh my gosh, I said, you're the only person that knows, like and she's like, what, how does that feel? You're the only person that knows about this child we're about to have. And the lady didn't know who I was or anything, but she's like, wow, I feel really special, I said, you should. So that that's my answer to how I let people know? How did you decide to let it be known to the press.

That's the other thing, Bobby I didn't like it was I was doing this. I did this cool thing over the holidays. On Thanksgiving, I filmed with this thing called going Home. WHOOPI gold Bird produced it. It was on NBC on Thanksgiving Day, and it was about me growing up and going back home and how much my home

has made me who I am today. And part of it was sitting around the pool with my twin brother and my dad and my mom, and we were all talking about life and this and that, and I said, you know, I really want Erica to be a part of this, because again, like a lot of that kind

of stuff, she just gets left out of. And I just I'm making it more of a priority for me now to I've noticed the reason my mom and my dad have always been together and and why they've worked out so well as and my dad's always made my mom a priority and and she's just as important as anything else he's doing. And so I said, I want her to come out here. And so she came out and sitting there and we were talking, and I just

I knew that at something. Here's the thing I think in anything life, you get ahead of it and don't allow something else to manipulate what you want to tell people. You got to tell them the way you want them to know you're narrative to you're a narrative. And uh, I've done the thing before, like when when I was pregnant before we kind of told and they put a press release out and you have all these people like these outlets. I want to be the first to tell people.

You know, it's kind of weird. So I thought, well, the easiest I could do this that the TV production crews there and they're talking. I was like, hey, we should tell them about that thing. And Eric was like what And she's on camera and I didn't tell her. I didn't tell anyone, and she's looking at me. And I looked at Jared and I said, Jared, Eric wants to tell you something about what's about to happen in our life. And he's like, are you guys getting married.

I'm like, no, no, no, man, we're gonna have a kid. We're gonna have a baby. And uh, everyone from the people the producer of the show, like they were probably thinking, like jack pot baby, we just got some new news. But uh, it was cool. And then at that moment it was like a relief because I felt cool and I'll tell anyone anymore. This is on National TV Thanksgiving night, Boom said it. But there's still people every day that they're like, you guys are pregnant. Do you get the

people going when are you gonna get married? Is that everybody? Okay? So check this out. So I went to a friend of mine's wedding in Dallas a while back, and it was in Erica was with me. We were walking around this little cool area Dallas, and uh, they were this girl who said, oh my gosh, you're Jake Going I've been one of your shows. I said, you know whatever. She's like kind of get a photo and I'm taking a photo within her mom. She's like, mom, this is Jake.

And I said, well, this is my girlfriend, Erica. Um, and she Eric is starting to show a little bit, you know, and I said we're about to have a little girl, and and that her mom looked right at Erica and said, well, where's your ring, honey? And Erica, to her credit, she just kind of laughed it off. You know, I didn't say anything, but those are the kinds of things that you know that weighs on my heart as a man like has me not marrying her has nothing to do right now with me not loving

her feeling fulfilled. I just I don't know. I feel like I'm gonna We're a different place in the world where I don't know. Marriage is an interesting thing, man, How do you feel about marriage. I've never been married. I don't know, dude. I think marriage is unbelievable. I think it's an unbelievable partnership when you find that person that's supposed to be that way, and I really believe that Erica is that person. I'm sure at some point in the future we're gonna get married, but right now

I'm starting to rushed to do it. Like everything in my life, I've worked hard for to plan out and I had a little bump in the road, which is part of life, a few years back, but I had the greatest gift come from it with my little girl, and then during that time with my divorce, everything my my career too, was really kind of boiling in a weird spot because right about the time you got what year was it you got the Bobby Bond Show two thousandwelve, eleven,

uh eight, two thousand Thirteen's right about the time that roused, right after Barefoot and Blue Night. Here's my first number one. And for those first few years or when you were when you all had your show and everything was popping off, your crushing and honestly, dude, I'm fucking still crushing it. I'm sorry if I said I'm I am. I'm busting it man every day, Like I feel like I'm not any less behind than I was then. But due to perception.

That's a big thing in our business. People don't see like perception and perception and so having a song or two. I only had like one or two songs that just didn't go number one. Died in fifteen or twenty. But like people think it's funny. I hear people now they're like this down to the hockey, Tonk is crushing it and people are like, Jake, it's so good to have

you back on the radio. I just want to be like, come on, man, what do you mean, like what, I haven't been anywhere, but be honest with it kind of makes me. It bothers me a little bit when people say that, because it makes me realized, Wow, they really didn't think I was gone, like I went away. Uh okay, you did switch record labels, which you which kind of

pulled you back for a second. And then people go, Jake switching record labels and it did keep you out of sight, out of mind for a few months, to be fair. Huh, yeah, I think so. I don't know, maybe what maybe didn't feel that way to me just because I was still out on the road while everybody

else thought I wasn't while I wasn't doing anything. I was out there on the road literally not only working hard, but like supporting band, crew of hand for busses and and it takes a lot to do that, and um, it's hard to accept that when you feel like people are saying, uh uh, it's worried what's happening to But the only people, let me say this, the only people that are saying that and feel that way are also the only people that have seen it that way, meaning

it's people that are so inside the circle the bubble they see it. Like your fans and the people that love cutching music. You never went away to them because to them, barefoot is still the jam that is as good today as it was when the first time they came out. It's only people in the industry that go, where's the next song. It's only in the bubble that you felt that and that it existed because, like you said, you're out working and people are coming to shows. Do

you think anyone cares what record label you're on. No, they don't at all. Only industry people to go yes, because that affects you every day. Now, someone listen to this now at home, and iwa doesn't affect them what record when you're on. They just want to hear good jake going songs, and they have a bunch of good Jake going songs. I guess some good ones coming. Team man.

I've said this publicly many times. I think Down to the Honky Talk is one of the best songs and I think it's the best on the radio right now that one think Speechless is good. Um yeah, they're killing it, they're killing it. But Down to the Hockey Talk is so freaking good. Thank you play it here. And I'm not saying it's because you're in front of my face. I said it down down, I go down. That's the damn dare I don't love that that makes me smile? You know how often I get to smile it songs? Now,

thanks man, I'm really a lot of my new music. Um, I went back to a lot. It's kind of a bridge. It's weird because I'm this guy that grew up on the beach and very beach, but I love classic, cool country music. So it's kind of a blend between the beach songs that I love and classic country songs. And that was that one. There is more on the classic country vein and uh. Ever since I started singing, I I love singing in a register that's low because my voice sits there, and I finally found a way to

kind of utilize that. So it's funny every time I hear that song on the radio and I hear that, I go down and I was like, damn, I'd every now I didn't know I could get down there, And damn, man, I remember when I was doing idol earlier in the year, you sent me. I was Jack and I don't ever take music from people, and You're like, I know you're not gonna listen to this, and so you texted it to me and I was like, I'm not gonna listen, but not listened anyway. And this song, like did I

there's number one? But it really it did great. It did better than a normal one week number one. Yeah, it did really well. Um and and we're all really proud of it was the first the first song off my you know, big loud release, so there was a big tune and uh, it was a start to getting that momentum back. I think what we're talking about earlier,

you have to have momentum. And I would say that to any artist as a as a piece of advice that like young up and comers and stuff, it can this this world can be kind of polluted with the smoking mirrors of it all. Um, when you have a shiny hit that you know, your label paid a bunch of money and had regionals working for fifty weeks and and then you have a number one and like, oh my god, it starts and and yeah that's where it starts. But it's it's almost like it gets harder at that point.

And um, and so it's nice to have that momentum back for me because the minute you can create momentum, but the men and the momentum starts, you know, dwindling just a little bit, which is just like anything, Like any professional athlete is not gonna step up to the plate and hit a home run every single time he steps up to the plate. But you know what, like

that's how I feel like. I'm gonna go out trying to and if I strike out, which I've done a couple of times, cool for the next time I come back up, I'm gonna try to knock it out of the park again. My favorites made for you. I told you this, I know you played it. This is what happened. You played an erotic charity event. So we went out to that event and you played it and it wasn't out and I was like, dude, that's the greatest I love it. Nex Yeah, so what's what is this? What's

the next one for you? By the way, are you not you have to say no, no, it's cool. I have so I can't. We don't know, man. I have some great songs, like really good songs and d made for you with the jam and we're just we're bounding to this tournament. I've gotta I'm I have a little bit of a chip on my shoulder. I'm not gonna lie I don't know if you can see different reasons, but I don't know. You always come in with a

good chip, a healthy chip about something. Yeah. Well I've always had a chip on my shoulder, I think from the beginning days, trying to trying to you know, just like anyone. It's a it's a confidence. It's a good thing. Looked at me like you flinch, Like why you're saying that. No, I have a chip on both of my freaking shoulders all the time. Yeah, I don't think it's a negative thing. I think you can take you to both places, super positive and super negative. But I think you're someone who

has a chip all the time. And that comes from someone who has a chip all the time. You constantly have something to prove. Yeah, but I'd have a lot more to prove after like last year and just like

a lot of changes and stuff. And I'm surrounded by people, um now that are just they're just they're so great and it feels so refreshing to work with people that are so I've worked with I say that, but let me say this though, for thirteen years at another label, I worked with people that made me who I am today. Like so, but they're they're just after a while at any place it gets it's like it's like a relationship. Man,

you gotta find ways to spice it up. And when one one person in the relationship is not wanting to spice it up, man, find spice elsewhere. Is that true? I don't know. That's what I do. I don't know. Let me do this. Well, you don't have a girlfriend these days or anything? We can come back to that. Um, let me say this to Jake has a podcast called Good Company with Jaco and Twitter. Are you gonna be

on my podcast whenever you want? Okay? Cool? I feel like that would be cool, right, because then I can ask you all the questions. You can't ask me whatever you want right now. You can call me and ask them. You can say I want to come on your show. I had. There's no rules about what you can and can't ask me, or a venue or you can and can't ask me. I wonder comfortable? Can we talked about a hour and I never talked to people here? Have we been talking for an hour? No? No No, we talked

for forty five minutes before we even hit record. Because we're talking about business stuff and we're, you know, working together I have been fine, hit a record on it. I just really try to put here's my thing. If I lie, I can't remember it anymore. Yeah, so I don't, so I just say I just put it out there from my freaking hemorrhoid too. Yeah. I've noticed that you talk about that on this show and stuff ever. But it's the first thing in the morning, man, And it's like,

you know what I mean. I admired that you'll talk about anything something hemorroid, but it's that the good and the bad. Are you still as weird as you used to be? Has all this fame and when Dancing with the Stars made you weirder? Because that's where we were last time I said you were weird. I don't feel there's a fame. I actually feel like it's taken some of the weirdness away from you because you can't dodge it now, like you're in so many different spotlights and

people are wanted. You can't be as weird as he used to be. I don't understand what that means. Weird though, but it's a good weird. But that doesn't make sense, Like, what do you mean weird defined I don't understand your question because weird is such a vague term. Um, how did I used to be weird? And how am I less weird? And I'll answer your question and I'll tell you why I'm not whatever it is, But go ahead. I had a big breakthrough, but I'll tell you that

you did. Yeah. I want to on site, man, dude, I've been thinking about to go in there. Dude. It changed. Is the best thing I've ever done, everything I've ever We'll talk about that sometime off off this. I did eight It was eight hours for five hours a day of NonStop therapy. I bet it was amazing. Hardest thing is that it took three I cried three days and cried in tenures. Right except for cried like two years ago, except for rooting ninety one, um and my mom, and

that was on the edge of I haven't cried. I didn't cry. And because I never cried, for me, do not to this the hardcore therapy I bought like a baby, and I came and it was people like Dave Heywood who was like, you gotta go, and Nicole Galleon. Yeah, it's amazing. The people that like also will admit that that that they've got to figure some stuff out as well.

We all have to figure stuff out. And you know what, we never figure it out because as soon as we figure one thing out, it opens the door for the nine other things about figure out. Yeah, the thing that I figured out, I don't know anything. I don't really don't know anything. I figured that out a long time ago that I didn't know. Always thought I could fake it or I could just manage it. I don't anymore. I don't know anything. That's okay, though I'm trying to

be a bit more vulnerable. You know, that was a big thing for me. But I don't listen. I'll always be weird. I don't even know what you mean about weird. You can elaborate if you want. Um. No, I mean I think like when I first Scott to know you, like I just didn't know. I didn't really know. I mean you you're who you are, you know. I think

at first I was just trying you. I couldn't figure out if you were who you were, or if you were like the Bobby Bones guy on the radio, and then like this other guy when you weren't you know what I mean, am I? No? I feel like you're the same guy that's behind them like in the mornings

and then the same guy off. You know, but you have so much extra culurricular things happening that I find, at least for my life personally, for me to be happy, I have to have outlets things that like things that are like hobbies of mine that I love to do. And if someone said to me, like, hey, man, what do you think Bobby's hobbies are question, that would be a great Bobby now here's this week's Bobby's hobby. He's gonna try this one. You're like, maybe you should try this.

But honestly, I would say you're one of those guys, like a couple other friends of mine that are very successful, I don't know what they do outside of work, and and that kind of like as your friend and someone that knows you, it's kind of like. That kind of bothers me a little bit because I feel like it's a piece of happiness that you're you could I'm not

judging your happiness. I'm just saying you could add to your life by implementing a couple like super cool hobbies that take you away from the whole business side of things. My issue has been I have a hobby, right and then I go no, no, no, Like I'll find a hobby and then I'll go, you know what, I can actually turn this into something. For example, I started a box right not bought two gyms in Nashville. I was like, well, I enjoyed so much, why don't get involved in it.

It sounds to me like you like money. No, actually not at all. I like building things like from this podcast to a radio show, one market to a small box. I like, I like to figure things out and then once I get it, I go, Okay, I'm gonna go to something else. But I don't know if that's a hobby. I don't know that I have. Like I you know, I would like write funny songs. I was like, let me just make a band and then we tore all the time. Do you find it for your show? A law?

And also along the lines of other like artists. I feel this way to like guy like Allen Jackson. Right, take a guy like Allen Jackson came from noon in Georgia. I didn't have a lot. I was working I think at Walmart or something before he made it big and then his his tape got found on the airplane. Froy Harold shed from his wife with whatever he goes from noon in Georgia to like, you know, a few years ago, it's like Alan Jackson sells his house for thirty million dollars? Right,

how do you always? How do you stay to where you can stay relevant and understand people as you grow, like into a life that isn't what's necessarily exactly like your audience? Does that make sense? I've asked myself that too, Like you see certain artists, have you seen how like?

And I've always watched myself from from afar like to make sure that I never like my my people that got me to where I am, don't ever think that I've gotten to another level to like to where I'm too big you know what I'm saying, or flashy or anything like that. I think a lot of its rooted in Yeah, I mean, I grew up the first twenty two years of my life just gutting it out right and right and being extremely poor and having to figure it out. And then now you know what I do.

That is really cool because again I have a job even if there wasn't money, and I have a good career even if there wasn't money attached to it. I still have a job that isn't normal where I get to go and do something for fun. Had to be goofy and write and creating, write books. I mean that's

not a normal thing. But what I have found that really centers me is touring and meeting and talking to people like I do an hour mean great before the show and like an hour afterwards every stand up comedy show, and just being able to spend time with people regrounds me every time. And I think I've seen that Ellen degenerous. Yeah I thought you'd like she was great. Yeah, she's great. And again how does Ellen get up and relate? But then she gets up when you go and she owns

herself like she owned the whole. I'm a lesbian thing and it started from the beginning. So you, like you said earlier, you take the power out of someone else's hands too, assuming you you deliver your own narrative. Things pretty cool And I to me, it's always been a focus to be able to give back because I was

given to because people fed me. You know, you've definitely done that pta group, church groups, uh, school like I wouldn't have got so making it a priority to make it about other people has been made me go, I don't even matter, Like really, we don't. I don't matter in the grand scheme of things. People just think everyone, everybody on everybody on earth is going to forget who

I am at some point. Same thing with you eventually, unless the world blows up, everybody on earth is there's not gonna be a single trace of Bobby Bones left in four years. Okay, what's your hobbies? I don't hobbies? Like in the next like, like, you have ten seconds to think of two things you like to do that have nothing to do with the work. I mean, I watched I like watching Netflix at a hobby. Yeah, that's cool. Cool, that's a hobby Outside of that. I mean, do you

like you know, you like to work out? You do? Somebody that I don't even like to work out. I hate it because I I just do it because it's work that needs to be done for me to be healthy. So wait, who do you know? Send me up with somebody? I know lots of people, man, but the thing is you're not. I'm actually trying to get my twin brother right now and moving to Nashville. He's starting a snow phase of life, and uh, I keep telling him part of his I think frustration is is that he has

not found a great girl. Part of finding a great girl is being out a place in your life where you're a good person that attracts a good girl. Otherwise, you know, if you're in a place in your life you're just kind of like sketchy, you're gonna attract sketchy chicks. And uh so I think, um, are you, I mean, are you ready? Are you ready for somebody to be really serious with? Yeah? First of all, there's no sketchy about me. There's I'm just gone a woman that's sketchy.

I've dealt with Yeah, totally gone all the time. Yeah, because it's seven sex with anybody. But here's the thing I think to a woman, I've I've learned this like it's it's it is appealing like work ethic of a man. They see someone like yourself works hard, you have a lot of things set up in a great way because you've you've worked hard for them. They get to be a part of that. You admire them for their work.

I think blah blah blah blah blah. But there comes a time though, where I don't care if you do what you do for a living, I don't care if some guy's a salesman for meta pharmaceutical sales. If you're gone all the time, it's hard on someone, and so it's about finding someone. Maybe it's also gone a lot. I thought you were dating that girl dancing with the Stars for sure, because she's hot that we never never dated, never even talked about it. I'm gonna tell you the

honest to God true. The first night she came to I figured this is gonna be another one of your things where like you're like, you know, like kind of like somebody else in the bit, like it just organically worked out that way. But I can see this kind of would like that to happen though, right, not with her why it was in l A. First of all, here's the whole thing, right, But nobody's asked you this. I bet nobody's asking about the situation. But I'm just

telling you from everybody to watch that thing. And from my perspective, like every picture you guys posted and you're staring at each other's eyes and all this, I was like, dang, good for Bobby Man. She is hot. Here's the real story. By the way, I think we're closer now after the show than we were during the show, because uh, because that was it was torture because I didn't know how to dance right and every day she was. But see, that's what she admires about you, Bobby. She now knows

that you went from something you were uncomfortable doing. That's that's what women want. They want to take you into something you're uncomfortab well and make you great at it. Here's the story. The first day she came to town, she came over to the house and said, hey, come over because apparently we're gonna spend a lot of time together. And she was like, yeah, we spent almost she came to this house. Yeah, So she walked in and was like, he's a baller. I don't know if people think that,

I don't know. It's a totally of course they think that you pull up here. I don't feel that way because it's my house and I'm here all the time, So I don't know. You know how, I don't know. You can say whatever you want. I don't. But she comes over and I say, hey, listen, we're I don't know what the environment. Can I pause you for a second because I'm a d D mike. I did notice for for Bobby having such a nice house, Why are you parked on his grass? Bro? Yeah, but I could

get in, I could go around. It's a loop, you know what I mean. It's like, damn, Bro, it's parking on the grass. We didn't want we wanted to make sure you so you sacrificed your grass for me. Thank you. I appreciate that I did that. At a Christmas party recently, we all we're up. We're givers, right, Like um I told her the first day, I was like, I don't know what the deal is, but we I can't. I'm not gonna fall from you it. I'm not gonna try

to have sex with you. I'm not gonna flirt with you because I have to win this show and I'm I came here to win. And that's why now after the show, you guys are closer because you already got business behind you. And now that the business has been settled, I mean, you're so what you're in l A nine. You're in l A is fifty percent of the time. Now, you know what, I'll ask her, I'll text her and be like, hey, Jake said, but now it was never a thing forever. But you know, like you like, but

if it could be, you don't see yourself maybe pursuing it. No, I don't think so. Really, yeah, I don't think so. But here's like what I also wanted, because she is cute and she is that girl that like brings guys like you like when they go to do the show, like they're uncomfortable and she's got to make them feel comfortable. So how many guys, just like yourself, they maybe have done the show like the same thing, like you would want it to be cheesy, like you're just the next

guy that like hit on her that she worked with. Also, I was like, hey, I'm not gonna hit on you because I know and I think all of her partners fell in love with her right because she's awesome and hot, Like everything about her was like, oh, totally be into it. Um, So yeah, I didn't want to be that as well. I knew that if I was trying to be funny and flirt with a girl, I could not focus on what I had to do. There's just no way because I was so not good at it. I thought, you're

pretty good. Everybody else did two you won. I didn't win because I was good. I want because I was okay. And because I chose the other side of it to focus on. When two things were split and everybodys focusing on one side, I went and made the people love me and made the judges you know, tolerate me. But I think you should give her a call, man. I think you should just call or to say why not? What if? She said? It would be nice to have somebody that can see you know, what do you mean?

And also I don't want to run her news. But she's gone, gone, gone, gone gone. I'm not running her news. It's that's just not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Uh. Well, I think thanks for asking. Yeah, I just thought maybe that would be something, you know, But I'll keep my eyes and here, if I ever get married, she'll be at the wedding. Yeah, like we'll be that close. Cool. Well that's good enough. Yeah. But you definitely have know people you surround yourself with, and you you definitely have

quality females around. I have all females because I was raised by off females. My head producer, my assistant, my agents manager. They have to be female. I don't trust dudes. Dudes are scum, not all of them, man, no, but all of us are a little bit. We have a scum meter, you know, we at least have a few few percentage scumpoints because we're dudes. Yeah, some are, but that that's that's it. No, we didn't date, that's it. I was like, who you know? You know, I gotta

help hook me up with anybody. I don't. Yeah, I would trust you. I don't hang out that much. I wish I did. I don't hang out either. I don't. I'm on that. I'm on that riah app I was on that, are you? Yeah? It was great, it was awesome. But again, everybody lives in other cities. Yeah, you're right, and I'm like, I don't. I don't have time to go to New York. And I didn't thinking that I

would meet someone that would understand my lot life. And then it was became for me more or less like this weird thing of of knowing that I was saying hi to people that I would actually never say hello to ever again. So it was like cheap conversation and I'm really uh and I really like like good honest, every day down home stuff. That's where I came from.

So anyway, how did you know I was gonna be a dance with a start before anybody else did, because you sent me a text and you were like, oh I heard you're gonna be dancing with the stars and you've seen a little dancey man. And I was like, how do you know that? Because I know lots of things, man, before lots of people. I do. Who told you? I don't remember who told me? But we we we have a lot of the same circle network people. So somebody in your circle of network like we have to so yes,

somebody probably. Okay, anyway, okay, what's when you know? What I like about what you're doing musically is of all of us talking about all the stream of music. I hope this is super engaging. Man. I've been a long as podcast. We're fifty minutes and we like four minutes left. Yeah, we're only is yeah, okay, let me say this, um, because I have to get a spray tan after this, I was wondering why you didn't look as tan as usually. I have an American Otto shoot tomorrow and I have

to hold it to the very last minute. I know that's because I'm so relatable, but I have to have to get a break in it's part of the job. We were talking earlier about music and putting it out. A lot of the time you haven't put out a record, but you continue to feed out songs. Yeah. Well, I've been getting worn out from my label about when I mean, I literally just I have a meeting tomorrow about it. It's they want to know when they want to put the record out, and I've just been going to I

don't know. I don't know, but I'm ready. Now are you going to put out a record? Oh? Yeah, it'll I think the record will be out by March, probably a record record like twelve thirteen songs, ten songs, yeah, ten to twelve songs, probably go full post Malone do like ninety. Yeah, I've got a bunch, but I want to kind of just keep plugging away at it and keep pushing stuff out. UM. But I also I also

long for I have this. One of my goals this year is to make like more of a like a conceptual record, um where it's all based around one certain thing, because I've always wanted to do that. I feel like I've made a lot of great records, but there are a lot of songs that don't necessarily tell a story together. They're just songs, and um, when I listened to like Casey Musgrave's Golden Hour album, those songs don't all necessarily all relate to one another lyrically, but sonically this it

makes you believe that they do. And so I've always admired, uh, those artists that put together an album like that that kind of has a more cohesive sound and out and and that's how this one will be as well. But I just I want to get more into like the like Sturgill Simpson made an album, um that was for his son, and it was all the songs written for his son. It was actually the Sailor's Guy to Earth, And Um, when you listen to the songs, you unless you heard me say that or him tell you that,

you probably wouldn't know. I didn't know that. Yeah, but when you go back into the record twenty times, I did not know that. Now now that you know that, I go back and listen to it, it's kind of cool. And I know Sturgill Simpson's obviously the cool guy to reference these days, you know, or whatever when it comes to the country format. But um, I just I think doing just pushing the envelope a little bit like. I don't know. I just don't want to become the same.

I don't want to keep putting out the same kind of solence that people. It's like you said earlier, people expect something. You want to give them what they expect, but I want to give them a little bit more. I think it's also to give somebody a little bit more than they expect. I didn't say that here. I said before we came on, just so people know that they didn't miss a great point. I was making a

brilliant point. That was a good point. Not but now. Yeah, what I'm saying is people want to know what they're getting. But you can slowly shift it slowly, and by the time you do four projects, be a totally different artists and nobody feels like you've left them. Right. Yeah, let's do um, let's do this list real quick. I'm about to be in a movie, though. What what? It's a big movie? Man? What movie I got? I supposedly there's some people I've heard that are not too happy that

I got the part. Okay, now you're kidding about something. You're going somewhere, Go ahead, what's the movie? No? No, no, seriously, it's a big it's a cool deal. Man. It's uh, okay, what's the movie? Can you say? Yeah? Yeah, it's it's um. I think I can say um. So it's got a casey Afflecks in the movie. Um, Dakota Johnson, Um, the guy from what's the what's the movie? The movie? I believe the title is, And I hope these people want to hear me this, and they don't hold each of this,

but I believe. I'm almost I think the title is My is the Best Friend. And it's a true story. It was. There was a big article in Esquire written by the husband of this girl there from farareh Hope, Alabama, and she got cancer and um, it was just hard on him to take care of her. And she had this friend of his of hers, her best friend. They called and said, hey, man, I'll quit my job. I'll

move there and help you guys with all this. And he comes ends up like sleeping on their couch and it was only gonna stay for a few weeks and ends up staying the whole time through this process, and uh, she ends up passing away. But it's the story told from the husband and about how this guy was this unlikely person to be in their life at this at this moment, when they're going through so much that a

child she's got cancer. Um, but how much he helped and how much he brought her her husband closer to understanding her thanks to him. So, Um, I'm one of the friends of this guy, and you're acting. Yeah, when do you start shooting? Uh? Next month? Look at that? Yeah, and fair Hope, Alabama. How long do you shoot for? I think a month? It's exciting. Man, I've been kind of dipping my my tail into lots of different things. But uh, I was really surprised to get this I got.

I mean, I don't know why, but and I've never been one of these guys either just gonna like aet like lose touch with what I really really brought him to the table. But as you said earlier, I mean I feel like I'm at a place in life where I can try and do a lot of different things, and it's about taking risks and kind of putting and putting yourself in that uncomfortable situation all dancing with the stars. Um. And I've never acted for and I've never done that,

and I kind of want to be pushed. I want to see if I can do it. That's pretty cool. I could fall, I could be terrible, I could, you know, but I'm gonna do it. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Then um Or DiCaprio was pissed you got his role. There was a few people I think that I wasn't DiCaprio. There was a few people though that I heard, like one ed it because I would surprised me. So I'm excited. The last thing you will end with this list here the last thing you blank, last thing, last TV show

you binged? Um probably eastbounding down, last album you listen to all the way through who all the way through? The last album? Uh? This band called Bob Moses. Last app you downloaded. Oh it's all about bettering yourself man. Yeah, go ahead. UM. I downloaded this app called Task and basically what it is it helps me compartmentalize my life. So today or uh today, our deal was if I go back to my today thing it shows Bobby Bones podcast six thirty. I met with my business manager in

my farm. Basically, when you add something like and I have ideas all the time, and so I wanted away that when I got an idea to be able to put it on my phone or somewhere and I can store it away in a different like maybe that idea doesn't need to happen today, but it needs to happen this day where it needs to happen by that day or one day. Maybe it's just a dream box. It's got it filters all my ideas and it's called task. Task the last person you follow on Instagram, M hmm,

I don't know. I don't know. I will say this. I'm I'm struggling with Instagram lately and struggling with Twitter. Um, I think I've been turned off by just generic content that I see, like people put out there, which I get is is day to day life and people want to see that. But I haven't really posted that much stuff really. I used to be on Instagram and Twitter. You're one of the originators of somebody with like a music platform using like Twitter. You write pretty revolutionary for

country music. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to get I'm trying to figure out a way to come back. That's what we're talking about earlier in a way. But I'm gonna come back and do it more because I love doing it. I just I feel like it's you just become piled in with all this other random stuff that doesn't matter. And uh, what my I think I'm gonna do is maybe I should tell you off but off this thing is a pretty cool idea for the like Instagram like

stories and stuff like that. Actually I'm not I'm gonna just say it and then if someone does it then, but I'm kind of wanna I'm gonna make like a mini like docuseries movie, but like where every story, like the story of each fifteen seconds that you're seeing is like done, but it's done live. It's not done like get it and produced it and then added it, uploaded it to your story. It's just gonna take some good intertwining.

But I have a pretty good, uh idea for what that shall be the last thing you read about yourself that wasn't true, Um my net worth didn't you're like search like? Well I did, ever, I didn't search my net worth. The other day. I was trying to search for my website or something because we were doing updates

to it. And if you type, you know, if you type in, somebody that always puts in after, like it could be like Jake O and uh whatever net worth is Jaco and gay is just whatever else pops up and uh and this, and I saw like, what's Jacoen's net worth? And I was like, I'd like to know my network right now? What is what's my net worth? And I and I clicked on it was like two hundred and eighty nine million dollars and I thought, wow, wait what Yeah, dude, my net worth two and nine

even jas net worth? And see what this says? You see ten million right now? Well it goes everywhere between two million, two hundred and eighty millions. There was one in there that was like two hundred fifty five million, but that that was before that was before divorce. All right, bud um, we're gonna call it the day. It's been a great one. Yeah, and a good night. It's been a good talk. It's always been appreciate your books, by the way, I told you I text you reached out

to the new ones? Great fail until you don't. Are you being facetious? No, dude, I have them both on audio books. I'll be honest with you. I did not read them physically holding my hand and right. But I listened to it in my car and I also listen to music, and I can I tell you something about just real quick about about your book that I like,

which one about you? The new one? The new one? Um. I don't know if I text you about this, but so a friend of mine in town, um what just called him was Okay, he has to two sons and he has this like he just talked about to me for a lot of years. He's such a great dad and um, but he never and I love my dad and talked to him all the time or whatever, and he just he's like, yeah, my dad and I are you know, we just hadn't talk to about we just

don't see eye blah blah blah. And I always told him, I was like, man, you just need a one day just go over your dad's house, which isn't far from where he lives, and just go to say Dad, like I miss my kids deserve you to be a part of their life, and let's let's work it out between us so we're not jeopardizing them what could be And anyways, in your book, I was I loved it when I got to the part where you talked about meeting your dad and meeting him at that barbecue place, and like it.

I was happy for you, man, because Uh, it was one of those things where in all of our lives, there's so many situations. I work with a guy right now, as you know, issues with his father and and I think life's too short. And I just made me feel good.

I just want to say that, like as a person that knows you, and then also read your book to know and I don't know where you're at now with that, where that went from there, um, but the way you described it in your book and and standing there with him, you know, trying to figure out what you're gonna eat and uh and then that moment of him, like you know, him, him pulling up in the parking lot and you being like is that him? You know? Is that it's cool?

It's really it was really cool, And I'm blessed. Man. I come from a family where like, I don't know what it would be like to not have my dad around, and uh so it was just cool to know, you know, see you do that. And my buddy that I told you about did do that. He went and talked to his dad and it's all like, it's really cool now and it's all good. And I just think sometimes it just takes taking that chance. And I think for whether it's you or whether it's the people that read your

book and what you're doing. I think to get if anybody else out there that's listening, if you have whether it's your dad or it's your brother, or whether it's anything um life, so sure that it's important to go and let them know that, like, hey, man, I love you and let's figure this out because I don't want to I don't want to take this with me or whatever I'm going. So that's nice. I appreciate you want to say that. Man, I'm sorry. I hope that wasn't too too deep. It can't be. I hope you find

a girlfriend. Thank you very much, Jay going. What's today? Can I do like one of those things one day? Can I do like this the bot? Can I sing like one of the body come to the studio you want to do? I hear people do it sometimes, like pretty much everybody's gone about you? Yeah? Can I make up a rap? Though? You know what we should do?

My company's kind of on me because they want me to write a funny song so they can play it like they need a new like we should get together and write a song I love to and then like so I can just record ranging idiots song. You can even produce it in your house if you want. You have studio still up in your house. Well I moved. I built a new place. Yeah, did you build studio or now? Not yet? Okay, Well we can do it wherever. We should write a song, and I could just put

a song outside. Leave me a lot because you're fun you're funny sounds. Oh wait, wait, can I real quick? Can I can I show you something? Okay? So one of the other endeavors that I want to get on now you know that I have, Well, by the way, I'm having another girl. If the next baby is a girl, I have a name for her. I haven't told anyone. I can release it right now if you'd like me to go ahead. Her name is gonna be Paris, Paris

Hartley Owen and Uh Paris and Pearl. But Pearl Uh loves unicorns, and so I keep telling her that she's got to represent for all the other six year olds out there, like there's not enough music about unicorns. So I started like making beats and stuff, and Uh, I made it up this beat and we kind of wrote this song about a unicorn. I'm just gonna play a little sniff bit of it. But speaking of which, man, I'm really I want to get in the game on like making songs for kids. Did the kid's record Cracker

browll bought it? Fantastic? The raging kiddy gets That's what it was. It's the best thing we ever did, so good. And I kept thinking about that, like there's not I mean, we're all making I bet you could almost make so much more money singing, like selling kids songs. Not that this is about money, but it's it's business, right, putting out a kid's album would probably do better than putting some people putting out regular music right now, it's pretty

crazy anyway. Uh Unicorn right here produced this with my girl Pearl. Hold up here, I'm gonna finish the song of it. She just have all these kids. You light up, man, when my name is Curl, I'm a cool girl and I got myself a you know, good to see you all right, man, this is fun. Thanks a lot. Uh yeah, let's do that. Put that in your tasks list. We're gonna write a song, all right. We gotta we gotta do it so much soon because I bust them on. They're like, if you gonna put a song out. Put

it out, all right, relax, um, let's do that. That's it, Thank you very much. Jay. Go On, check out Jack's music. He's gonna have a record in March right here, this after March. Check out Jake's record. You just put it out. It's fantastic, it's pull record. I just let's check it out. Yeah, everybody loves it. All right, we'll see you next time. Everybody