#145 - How Bobby Won Dancing With The Stars: The True Untold Story

talk about yet, but also to listen. If anyone else is gonna do that show, they should be directed to this next podcast right I'm about to do because hopefully I'll be able to share some stuff with you that will help you out as you're about to do the show. Because there are people that help me, but everybody that helped me was pretty conventional. Um, and as you know if you watch the show, I was definitely unconventional on that show. Uh. This episode episode brought to us by

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additional fifteen percent off life flock dot com. All right, and the drink water and we begin a right. If there's anything that I forget to say, because Mike d kind of lived this with me a bit. We we lived in the two bedroom apartment in in Los Angeles a bit. It was called Glendale, and we had to live different from all the rest of the cast because I had to work the whole time. I was the

only one that was working full time. Uh. DeMarcus was doing a couple of days a week coaching with the Broncos, but other than that, everybody else was kind of at it um just the dancing. So Miked and I moved three months ago or so to a tiny apartment in Glendale, California, And in the morning we would go to Burbank and do the radio show and then I wouldn't see Mike again until some time later, and I would walk in exhaust every three months. So hold on, man to war.

So let me start at the beginning. They started talking to me about Dancing with the Stars actually months ago, even before I went on American Idol, and the exact producer of that show, one of them, Dena Cats, I was like, I think you'd be good on Dancing with the Stars and Rob Mills at ABC, and I was like, yeah,

sounds fun. Well, between that time American Idol happened and I went on there and some other things started happening in the TV world, and I went from nobody caring about me at all, which has been pretty much my whole career, just dealing people to care like the like the people people I'm talking about, like network people. Two, I started to get oddly a lot of show offers at once, so I had to decide what I wanted

to do. And I really wanted to do Dancing with the Stars just because I thought it would be fun. I didn't think it would be as hard as it was. I thought it'd be pretty hard because I've never danced. I don't think it was gonna be as grueling as it was. And um yeah, I chose to do Dancing

with the Stars. I didn't know if I could with the American Idol schedule, because in that same amount of time, I had signed a deal with American Idol ABC to do full time Idol, and some of the dates were on top of each other, which later VC worked him out for me. But um yeah, I chose Dancing with the Stars. And I didn't officially get to take it

until like two weeks before I started training. I wasn't sure that I was gonna be able to do it, and so I had never met Sharna until like the day I met Sharna on the show, and so they flew to Nashville. I remember doing the radio show and I was like, wow, today I'm gonna start training for

Dancing with the Stars. But I couldn't talk about it because the first two weeks up until the announcement on Good Morning America, you can't say anything about it, and you have to practice in secret, and nobody can know. I think only a couple of people here knew, and so you kind of have to go, well, I've seen a couple of hours, but I'm not gonna tell you

where I'm going. This is not weird by and disappear, And I remember I was We were in a dance studio in Nashville for the first couple of weeks because I had a move to Los Angeles yet, and I hadn't really seen the show enough to know the dancers by like, how I know some people, you know, love the dancers on the show because they've been there for so long. I didn't know who Sharnon was. She knew who I was, obviously, and so here was this Australian

professional dancer in this goofy Southern radio dude. And so the thing about Sharna is what I knew immediately because I googled everything, was that all of her last partners, you may look this up, like her last partners were all pretty much professional athletes. So I knew that she had been close to winning a bunch but had never won. And that was kind of her story. That I knew about her was that she was always the one like the DiCaprio, like everyone thought she was, if not the best,

one of the best, but she had never won. And she had been given some great partners as far as physically, like I believe she had Josh Norman, who was an NFL player. Do you have the old list work working backwards, So Josh Norman uh NFL players, had Derek fisher In an NBA player, Antonio Brown, an NFL player, James Heins Cliff race car driver, Nick Carter, Nick Carter dancer, Backstreet board. So that my point is everybody that she had before me kind of knew physically what they were capable of.

They were rather they all did a professionally. As a matter of fact, they all were paid to physically do things. And then she gets me and I think that we were both kind of stunned at what we'd gotten herself into. Um. And again we didn't really know each other yet, and so I was clueless. I mean I ended the show still somewhat clueless. But after I did the math six hours of training, and we never took a day off in three months because we couldn't afford to because everyone

else was so much better than us. They were so far ahead of us that we couldn't afford to take a day off because we weren't going to catch them. We were just trying to put ourselves in a position whenever showtime hit to be ready to do the show. Um. And that started. We woke up, did the radio show, and we started every Tuesday. It was like boop, back at it. We kind of had this grid of the

way we did things, and so we started practicing. And our remember them saying our first style of dance was a jive, and I was like, I never heard of it. I heard it, like hey, why you talking that jive? Or like hey why I don't know, Like in the seventies people say the jive. I know what that was, like the hand give from Greece, you know, So and I remember I lost twelve pounds and two and a half weeks because I didn't really eat. I don't really

have time to eat. I was so tired. I don't want to eat because I was working and dancing a jib, which, by the way, I learned later is the most physically demanding of all the dances because it's so fast. It's a lot of jumping around. And I lost a bunch of weight quickly, and so much so that later on Sharna, not the whole time, but like weeks four or five, six, she would order food and have it sent to the room and we'd have to stop practice that she would

make me eat because I wasn't. I wouldn't stopped like I was there of work and that was it um and it really wasn't hungry while I was working. So we go and then we moved out to l A. And I remember leaving the house going, well, I'm not gonna be back very often if I last. And we moved out to this tiny apartment. It felt like college again, and I mean they paid for the apartment. We got there. It was fully furnished, cable there was even like a

cordless phone, which I thought was weird. Yeah, it's a cordless landline and so, and we lived there and I would go to work and I would uber every day. My uber bill was so high they gave us a rental car. They gave me a renal car, but might be pretty much kept a rental car. And then I just ubered to Burbank to where the radio station was, and I was in sweats for three months. I don't know that I wore jeans more than three times, like normal human clothes more than three times, except for dressing

up for that show on an occasional work event. And so it'd stay in sweats and cut off shirts and hoodies. And you couldn't wear logos or you have to do everything backward. So all my clothes were it was all is backward inside out. And so I'll go to this practice place, and you know, I was kind of looking at my calendar. We rarely practiced less than six hours, almost never, and there were days we practiced up to thirteen hours, depending on where we were in the in

the week, and we had to travel a lot. Then there were some people that traveled as well, like John Schneider traveled a bit because he didn't want to stay in l a um. But and we can go to the cast too, and I can tell you stories about all of them. And I mean, listen, what do I care now? Shows over, I can say whatever I want, um, you know, and I wish there was no I don't wish it. I'm kind of glad there's not. But it was such a good experience to me because of the people,

meaning the crew, the cast, the producers. They were all so awesome and there's nothing really behind the scenes to tell you about anything that really irritated me about that. They were from the executive producers down to the stage manager to what they called the troop, the backup Dan two later on the other partners of the other stars. Once they would get eliminated, they would help me, and you know, I would use them as tools. Um. So there,

it's such a positive experience. There's the hardest thing I've ever done, but it's such a positive experience. And there are things I'll talk about, um that are a bit juicier, I guess, but it was such a positive experience that I you know, there have been people that have finished that show and have come off like angry and not me. I had the greatest time when I wasn't about to

vomit because I was so tired at the greatest time. Um. So yeah, Like we would start on Tuesday and by Thursday, we'd have to have it shot sometimes on Friday, and you know, the rehearsals and dress rehearsals, and and there were clothing, their fittings and their wardrobe department's amazing. And they make everything by hand. They don't go to coals and buy the stuff. Everything is made. It start of

the fabric. Everything you saw me in and it started with the fabric and they made it all and we go and put it all on and I'd have mine on, Charne would have hers and she would go, now, let's change this, and they would freaking change it and they would restone things. I've never worked something Ryan Stones in my life, never been shirtless in public. More in my life then when I was on that show. So, um,

it's a really great experience. I did went unconventionally. Now here's where it starts to get a little a little different from my approach to the show, and that I knew I was never gonna be able to catch up with the great dancers on that show. I knew from the beginning they had trained for ten plus years, said the ones. I think that all three of the people I was in the finals with had years and years and years and years of training, maybe ten plus, because

they said that Alexis had. This is just people talking to me that Alexis had ten years of ballet mylos been dancing since he was tiny. Of Anna, she was like the second favorite to win the show when it started. Uh, I'm not sure what her dance experience was, but she obviously had had some by talking to them. So I was the one that didn't have any dance experience. And so what I had realized early on when I would watch to Nash or Wan Pablo dances that I was

never going to be that good. And I felt like if I could get through week two or three, that I could figure out a sideway to win that show, meaning that show usually is one by somebody who can dance really well. I don't know they've had anyone win that show that really couldn't dance in a long time, like with no dance experience. The only one I can

think of, and I'm not sure is Bendy Irwin. Other than that, just by looking at all the data on Wikipedia and like you're either an athlete or a dancer in some capacity, and I wasn't that, and I was determined to figure out how to win. Now. Here's what I figured out was that if I could get eights and even sevens, that put me in a place to

win every week. Meaning the show was split in half half judges half fan vote, and I knew if I could get an eight and the best if they got a ten, that only put me at a depth sit on the first half. But I felt that I could get more than a lead over them in the fan vote. Of all of them want Pablo to Nash. I felt like people would identify more with me than they would with them, so they could go and dance their brains

out because they were such good dancers. But if they were getting tents and I was getting seventh orrades, that was only a thirty percent at most difference, I felt like it could beat them by in the human vote. The human vote what people don't realize, and even when people on their show, is actually worth more than the judges vote. Even though it's fifty, there's a ceiling on the judges vote, there is no ceiling on the fan vote. There's no top line you can get on the fan vote.

You can win the fan vote, you can win it by to the second place person. There are no rules. You may not probably won't, but there are no rules on the ceiling of the fan vote. So that's how I approached it. I knew that people would not vote for me if I was mailing it and not trying hard. So I was working as hard as I could to get better, and I did get better. But I also knew I was playing a different game than everybody else. As they were all playing checkers, I was playing chess.

We were all trying to dance as good as we could, but I knew that there are years and years of experience I couldn't catch up with, But my years and years of experience of being a performer and playing two people and four people and surviving based on that they couldn't catch up with. And so while they were all hyper focused on dance, I was working as hard as I could on dance. But you're crazy if you don't think I was going what can I do? The people will really be entertained by what can I do to

people will love? And every week it was work, work, work, work, and trying to figure out what would be super entertaining now never in the dance, and there are things in the dance. I couldn't control my mouth being open the whole time, could control it, tried so hard to keep my mouth shut. I think that's just what I did when I was happy and I was moving around so um week one, if I'm to go back and and look at some of the things I didn't plan to fall down obviously, I had never done that day. I

wasn't all red. We were doing a jive to Travis Trip t r o U b l E. And they gave me a super country song because I love country music obviously, and I was like, okay, cool, and I love that song. It's nineties countries. It's right in my wheelhouse. And so we uh we did that. I never nailed the dance in practice, never, not one time. And we got on the show, and the best I ever did it was that first show. I remember the music going Brian and I was like, oh my god, here we go.

And I remember finishing it and going I can't believe I just did an episode Dancing with the Stars and I didn't my best ever, and I started celebrating, probably two beats too early, and Charnett was still bent over backward, and so she was bent over back where I started pumping my fist. It's probably a little too early. So finally she's able to get back up, and I run into the across the floor. And by the way, there were no rules for me. In my head, if you

don't know the rules, there are no rules. I didn't know the rules of that show as far as where you could go and couldn't go, so no one told me what I couldn't do. So I was like, this whole, this whole like ballroom, it's kind of my canvas. I can do whatever I want. And I felt like that, by the way the whole show because that no one ever came to me said stopped. So I took off running through the middle of the floor and I was like oh, and then I um was jumping around and

I fell and hurt my shoulder. My shoulder still hurts today. I had to stop acting like it was hurt because I did not want it to be a storyline on the show. Still hurts today. And so I hurt my shoulder. But we went over and we got our scores and I think we got all sevens from the first show. Do you know you don't have to look it up,

but I think it was like all sevens. But they were very complimentary, and the bit that Eddie and I do on our morning shows from that, whenever they would just say Bobby Jay into the world, the world's a better place. You just killed all diseases. What do your dance two, I'll be like, oh, becauldn't think they're getting big scores, and they wouldn't. Um, So I go out and everyone was like, wow, I was crazy. No one's ever reacted like that after a dance. No one ever

came to me and said, don't do that. I think people watch the show and they go, oh, we can only act a certain way because of ways we've ever seen on the show. I was the opposite. I was like, I'm gonna be exactly how I want to be until they tell me not to be. So no one said

anything about it. So we're go into week two and I believe week two was the and I'm not going to go through every week, but um, We're going to week two and I believe week two is the foxtrot where I end up flossing at the end of the dance. That's the other Week two, a week three. But we're going to the fox Trot and they have me at

the end of the show. And this is when people, the other dancers start to whisper their conspiracy theories of oh, if you're at the end of the show, that means they're putting you at the end, because they went everybody to hang around. I didn't know whether to believe them or not. I was knew it was only a couple of exam but I was like, oh, I started to get into my head a little bit. And our dance was super slow, and it was a foxtrot. It was New York Week and it was and if I'm actually

inaccurate in these weeks, Mike, you can tell me. So it's New York Week, and that that was my We had New York, New York from Frank Frank Sinatra and them out and we're doing the foxtrot and it's a slow dance and we're last, and I'm thinking of myself as much as I've learned it and as much as Sharna has been working to teach me these little things that I felt like a slow dance was kind of boring for the last dance, which by the way, sacriligious to say to a dancer, and I said that one

star she was. I don't think she liked that I said, because it was slow, it was boring, and I was like at the end, I wanted a big number. And so about halfway through the dance, I go, well, I haven't really nailed this dance. I've done pretty good, and I got to give people something to remember, because you remember they were still thirteen people, aren't they twelve people left?

And so as Sharna sat down at the very end of the dance, I lost and I was running backward when I did it, and it was a tough I gotta tell you. One of my most athletic moves of the whole dance season was flossing, running backward and coming to a stop right there. And so I flost and we got off. We got our scores and they were like, what just happened? And Charlotte was so mad at me, and we had only known each other three or four weeks at this point, and me, I'm thinking, I'm just

trying to stay memorable. I did the whole dance as best I could. This was a game. It was a TV show, and it was a game that me and my listeners were trying to win together. And so we got our scores and then she was off and she didn't talk. She wouldn't talk to me. She was so pissed and we everybody left and I was like, well, great, we're never gonna talk again because she was toos mad and not you know, I mean, just just justified. Sure. So she came over and I was like, hey listen.

We both were like hey listen. We both had something to say, and she was like, this is my craft and I was like completely respect that, and I was like, do you want to know my craft? That I said, people are gonna remember us, and she was like, okay, there's a good moment for us because we kind of went it kind of click for both of us that we were both in it together, we're both working as hard as we could, and that we kind of had

to trust each other. I had to trust her at times when I was like, oh, this does not feel comfortable with the dance part. She had to trust me when I was like, just go along with it. And I also promised her then there will be no more super surprises like that. I was like, I promise you anything I do that's like related, I'll let you know. I never did anything during a dance again, the whole

the whole season. But so again, I remember telling my like, my my people, my team, if I can get through the first two or three weeks, I can win this show. And they were like, okay, okay, can't dance. I was like, I just feel like I'm gonna put in enough work to get good enough to compete in the dancing, but to win, because in my mind it was already split it in the two halves. All I need to do is compete in the judges half and dominate the fan

vote half. Because I had the people. They did not see us coming, as far as they didn't see the support that we bring that I bring with my people. They had no idea and we show up and you know, on the finals or four of us. What's funny is everybody had their own fan base. I had the least amount of Instagram followers in the final four. Everybody else had over a million Instagram followers, and people be like, oh, you brought your fans, Yeah, so did everybody else. Alexis

has like twelve million Instagram followers. You know, my law has a huge Disney following of Honest from Harry Potter. They all had a huge, way bigger social media numbers than I did. My my What I'm like lucky to have is people that I get to talk to and we feel like we're friends and we know each other, and it's how to use those people. Because my people came to bat for me so hard. I mean, I was surprised I was never in Jeopardy the whole year.

There are only two people that weren't in Jeopardy the whole time, which were me and Milo, and until he was finished second at the end, he was we were both. Also I started to realize, Okay, I must be getting a pretty good vote because heat mile is really good and getting nines and tens. I also think it hurts you early if you're so good, because you have nowhere to go. People just expected out of you. And if you get nine and tens early, and then you get

nine and tens again, they're like, yeah, they expected it. Good, good for you, we knew you were good. I also think that if you get really high scores and you're good, people think, oh, they're good, they don't need the votes.

I'll vote with somebody who needs it. So there's something to say for you know, somebody that's rolling in with sevens and eights, because people will go, oh, I'm gonna give them some votes because they need it, which really, again, the fan vote is the biggest part of the show. You have to be in striking distance with the judges vote, but if you can clean up on the fan vote and beating, Like for me, I was such a normal human on that show because I'm just not cool. There's

no part of me that's slick or polished. And about week four is when I go when I go, Okay, I really can win this thing if I just play this work as hard as I can on the dance, and I would get so pissed when I wouldn't get scores that I thought we're good, Like we did the Halloween dance and I think we got like seven eight seven or something. I'm not sure of the score. Maybe I don't know. Whatever was I was visibly upset on screen. I watched it back. I was visibly upset. What I

get eight seven seven? Okay? I was upset because I was like, that's the best I could have danced, and I still only got eight seven seven. The only thing that we see on that show, the only data that we have to justify our week, was so judge those judges scores, because they never share us the votes. They never tipped me off one bit that I was gonna win the show, that I was crushing votes. They never said anything to me about that. And so you go and the only thing that you can rely on is

those judges scores as being part of the score. Now, I'm still playing the hidden secret vote game. I was just counting on and hoping that people would vote for me, and I was never in Jeopardy. So I started to go, Okay, well what can I do this week. I'm gonna dance all week. I'm gonna train hard, and then I would do a little something. I would say a little something. I would I would be funny. I talked to the

judges in a weird way. I'd go up to the judges table, things that were just different that people that listen to the show or listen to podcast already knew that I was gonna do. But it was people that watch the show and only watch the show. They'd be like whoa, you're this guy? Because I think I was just brought on to be the kind of funny guy that would last a few weeks and then slowly be shipped off to see I think because well I never danced.

It wasn't like people think of country music and go let's get some because we're our own little world and everybody kind of counts us out or doesn't. They don't think about us at all. And so Week four, so was one part where we're doing a magic trick. I think it's a Week two. It was Las Vegas night. Our magic trick fell apart behind us as we were doing it. We couldn't get around it. Was the thing where we cut a girl in half and we have to dance around it. We couldn't get the thing apart.

Somebody handed somebody a wrong blade. We couldn't split the uh what do you call it? Thinking she was in she gets in and you cut her in half whatever that things in that she's in. It was like a casket. We couldn't cut it in half. So we had to dance around it, and we were off like by three

or four beats. We danced the whole song off by a few beats because we would just like just keep going, just keep going, act like It's like sometimes if you just act like supposed to be there, people believe you're supposed to be there. It happens a lot of times at concerts. Is to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, and um,

we're just charms, like just go. And she would talk to me a lot of times through her teeth, so she would smile real big right now she had talk with her like an eventuloquist, and at times it was wonderful. During a dance at a time she would you know, like scold me. So we we do that dance and we get through, and that's about when I go, Okay, I think we can do this. Um. Still, no one saw us coming, but they kept putting me at the

end of these shows. Every week I was either last or next to last, and then I will be first. And then I realized, you know, they start the show off with a bang or they end the show with the bang. Um, And so I think, if I were talking to people who were just starting the show, now you have to dance, and you have to get better, because God knows, I tried so hard to get better,

and I did get better. You know, I trained, I did, I looked at all my schedule over six hundred hours in three months, and so but you have to really do something extra because you can. There's a ceiling with the judge's votes, and that's in the people. They get mad at the showy like, oh, I'm never watching it again. You knew the rules before the show started. You just don't like how the rules played out. And I was very different on this show. I've been very different with

everything I've ever done anytime anything happens to me. But people are upset because I go into it a bit different. But you knew the rules of the show. I get so many like Instagram messages like worse Dancing with the Stars ever change the rules now? You love the rules before the show started. You can't be mad now because the rules for once didn't go the way you liked

it to go. So I would tell someone if you're listening to this now and you're gonna go do the show, or if you're just a fan of the show, that the people matter way more than the structure. That's just in general period, not just Dancing with the Stars, but in life, like people are so much more important than some set of rules to die and so judges people. That's where I would put it if I were making

my own scale of what's important and what's not. If you don't continue to get better dancing, they're gonna vote you off. You gotta keep putting the work. But you cannot underestimate the power of the people watching that show and voting on that show. And you all were gonna put in some work to vote for them. And I think that was the demise of the really good dancers on the show, like the Tnaches and even the Wampablos.

They were so good people didn't feel like they need to vote for them, and then they were just strictly dance. And there's always great dancers on the show. Always, every year, there's fantastic dancers. People say great dancers all the time. Most of the time, a great dancer wins the show. But people were shocked when they went home. I went out. I was shocked because they were so good. I thought they both went home too early. But I wasn't shocked

they didn't win. I wouldn't have been shocked to that one as well. But just knowing how that show works now, I'm not shocked by it. You have to put in the effort too, to really sell yourself. It's like running for a political office. Like we don't just take the person with the best resume and go, you are now the leader of the free world? Are you are now our senator? You take the person with the resume that you feel comfortable with, versus do you like them? You

know your plus do you like them? And whoever has the best resume plus who you like the most, that's who gets voted into office by the people. So, if anything, the show is very much like that. Um, we are what am I skipping over here? Because I don't have any notes. I don't want to come into with any notes. I go and where I want to go next? How about they stick us with these partners. This is the

first time that I've ever said this. We have never you don't meet the partner beforehand, right, And I've never met Sharna beforehand. We'd never talked, We've never texted or been on social media. And so, um, I I am in this dance studio on Nashville and she comes in and by the way, they have cameras on you the entire time. Something I didn't realize was that every practice every practice you have to be miked up with the

camera on you at all times. So there's six of hours of footage of me just getting mad at myself in a in a practice room, being like and with the producers would they wouldn't get mad at me because I was Actually I'm pretty good to work with because I know what it's like to work with someone. But I just in the practice room where they we're trying to get all this footage. I didn't say much because I was so focused on trying to get these steps right and trying to get this movement right that I

didn't ask a lot of questions. I just kind of watched and studied and studied, and I would go home and write notes. I would write steps down on paper. I would do all these things that really dancers didn't have to do because I could never just see it and feel it. For me, it was angles and turns and putting my foot down in the right spot, and

every dance was different. I would compare it to we know how to speak, but we don't know how to speak a different language, Like you can use your mouth to make make sounds, but imagine every week you were given a Rosetta Stone and you had to learn French. Okay, you learn French as best you could take a test on it. All right, new day, now start Italian. And that is what it was like learning those dances, because you knew how to speak and know how to walk. I knew how to talk and how to have rhythm

a bit, but all the dances were so different. Sometimes you put your heel down first, and the dances sometimes you count one to three, four or five, six, seven, eight. Sometimes you count one to three, one to three. All the counts were Everything was different, and some are slow somewhere fast. Um. So every week it was something different, and every the first day after the show it was the hardest because you were learning something brand new and

you were completely clueless. And it was the most frustrating day too. Because I was completely good. I would go into it. I be like, okay, today's the Vietnamese Viame, Viennes Viennese waltz would be like sounds easy enough. Um. It was completely different than the jive or the fox trot or the and sometimes you could take you know, little parts of other dances, but I would have to name the one funny things because for me, the Chase didn't mean anything. I needed to call it the gummy Bear.

You know, I'd have to like really dumb things down for myself, and so um Sharna whenever she came to Nashville. Because I had one goal in mine that was to win the whole show, didn't know how I was gonna do it. I never really felt like it was bigger than me. But I think one of the things that has been a guiding part of my success is that I'm so oblivious to what's really happening that I don't know the rules that that it doesn't putting limitations on

me because I'm just like, yeah, let's go. I'm not scared of it. I don't really know what it was, so I wasn't scared of it. The same thing with radio something writing books. I know what I was doing, I don't know how hard it really was. And because I don't know the rules, I create my own set of rules, and so I went into it. I was like, I never thought I couldn't win it. I just thought if I could get to the first few weeks, I

could figure it out. So I get this partner and Charlatta comes to town, and I don't even know that I'm gonna say this on the radio show for a bit. But Sharnatt comes to town and you know, she has this like this crazy red hit red hair and there's the super big presents about her and she's Australian, and I was like, hey, listen, I want to win this, Like I'm not just here to promote. I read nothing to promote. A lot of people go on because you have something to promote or you know they're doing it

for Like I just did dancing. I don't have to dance with the Stars. I could I missed the first part of American I don't have to do Dancing with the Stars, So I could have been an American Idol already as of right now, because I missed all of the audition, the uh where they go to the dimmer cities, and so I just wanted to do it like for fun,

but I don't want to get in anything halfway. And I said, I really want to win this, and I knew she wanted to win this, and so she came over to the house and we were just kind of getting to know each other because according to her, you spend a lot of time, which I later found out you spent all the time with the partner, like your

whole life is basically you and them. And we were sitting on the couch and I was like, the people usually like fall in love or hate each other, or they end up having sex with each other, Like I just really wanted to know what happened on this show, like behind the scenes, and she was like, it's just like anything else, a little bit of all of it. Sometimes composte each other, sometimes they end up looking up.

And I was like, well, uh, they can't happen with us, and she was like, if you we want to win, it cannot happen with us. And we knew too. We felt like they had put us together because we were two single people. And so I remember sitting at my house going, Okay, there's I'm not I'm not gonna flirt with you. We're not gonna date, I'm not gonna fall in love with you. And she was the same way.

It was like, we're here to win, and if anything romantic happens, if it would have happened with us, it would have been toxic to what we were trying to do, because then there's another layer that you have to poke through. And we didn't want that layer. We both were just and the thing that I and listen, I'll tell you later on. We and I fought a lot because you just are not with someone that long or not fight. I mean, think about your husband and wife. You're with

them all time, you're gonna fight sometimes. But we had decided from the first time that she was here that it just wasn't gonna happen. And I told her I'm not fall in love with you. I'm fall in love with anybody good luck, how about that? And I think she thought I was kind of kidding at first, and I was like, no, it's just not going to happen. And so and listen, she was down with it. Two The first time she met me, what am I? I'm like, freaking,

how do you duty? You know? Nobody sees me the first time and falls in love ever, no one's like, oh, I can't wait to see you know, how do you doty? Or uh, what was it guy toy story that cowboy? Yeah,

I can't wait to see Woody naked? Yeah that So that so she wasn't trust me when I said she wasn't trying to get in my pants either, right, And so we had decided early, early, early, it was never a thing we were It was not going to be a thing whatsoever, because we were both there to win and to work and think about, so there's never anything manic.

And I went out and I UM. At the same time, ironically, I had started to go on some dates with someone and it wasn't her, and I wanted to talk about it on my radio show that I was actually because I don't want people feel like I was always just sitting at home alone. I started to go out with someone, just just a little bit, nothing serious, and it was right time when it started, so everyone was just like, oh,

it's Sharna. But I tried to give people little clues that would really know me and know the show to know that it wasn't her. For example, I said, I don't want to say who it is, but where First of all, she wasn't my girlfriend. By the way, we're not even dating anymore. UM, I would say, I don't want you going over to her social media and bombarding her. At the same time, I'm giving out Sharna social media all the time. I was like, here, it is that Sharna.

So people would know if they thought about it. Why would I say I don't want to say her name or who it is because I wouldn't want of bombarding her social media whenever I'm giving out sharinga social media the whole time. So and a lot of people picked up on that. Um. And also because she wasn't my girlfriend, there was no need for her to be in the public eye. And most people you date, it doesn't work out.

And the only reason I was even talking about it was because I wanted my listeners to kind of know what was happening. And by the way, the time, it was terrible for me to date somebody. UM. But it was never as never Sharna. And it's the first time right now I've ever said that there was never Sharna um and it's actually it's nobody now and it was never anything even serious. Um, Mike knows who. Everybody knows who it was. But yeah, it's not anymore. Did you

know it wasn't anymore? I think so. Yeah. So the thing about Sharna was we kind of had this relationship early that we were we were there to work and what I respected and still respect the most about her and she's hardcore when it comes to work, and so am I. You may be more talented than me. You were not going to out work me. That's just not a thing. You will not outwork me. I'll to my toes bleed. So we were just dancing, and at times she was so frustrated with me because I just couldn't

get it. I didn't know I left all right. I mean it was like a toddler, and so we we struggled. We struggled hard, and I think she would at times would get frustrated with herself that she couldn't figure out how to teach me because I was such a novice. Now people would go like, just have fun. You're out of your mind. If you think you just go and have fun, You're crazy. Just having funds going out there and just shaking your hips and thrust in the air.

You had your with a professional athlete trying to do what a professional athlete does, being judged by other people who have been professional at their job in front of eight million people. I've never been so nervous then right before that show starts, and even more nervous before my

dance starts, because you're in a room. I think Tom Bergeron said it during like the week three, there are more people in that ballroom than in my hometown growing up, and so it's just people and like three layers just looking at you dancing, and their cameras everywhere. But there were some really kind people on that show, Like the producers would come up to me and be like, you

gotta just hang in there, hanging there. The stage managers, the guys that were they would be like you got it, Like they were so encouraging, and you just wouldn't think that people would be so caring on a show that had been going so long. No, not all of them had been been there for all all the time. I think some of them been there for most of it.

Tom bergeron that Best Dude was so nice, was never not awesome the finale, we sat and talked for twenty minutes about old school television and talk shows and him coming to do Hollywood Squares to Los Angeles when he was living in Boston. Aaron andrews awesome. I wish there were more gossipy stories about people, because I would tell you. I'd be like, oh, yeah, they're really note. It was such a good the social media a team, the girl that did social media awesome, and I don't know, and

everyone acted like I was the nicest guy. Ever, I'm not. I'm just a normal dude. But I think like in Los Angeles, everyone has to define themselves publicly differently, meaning in Los Angeles, like to show you're a big star, you have to be like, I'm big star. Don't talk to me where I come from. You talk to everybody. And the bigger the star you are, the nicer, you better be like a freaking Garth Brooks, nicest dude in the whole world. In our world, if you're not nice,

you better be nice. It felt like in that world, if you are nice, you're taught, hey, don't be nice because you need to act like a star. And so I go into this place and I'm just like, what up like hanging out with everybody that everybody's the same

from the camera guy to Tom Berge. Wrong were everybody was just I just wanted to chill and be normal and so um, I think, you know, for me, that was a cool thing because people were very warm and welcoming and they were very helpful to me, and I think that allowed me to adjust to it a bit more. I never fully adjusted because the time zone was weird and I was always in the back of a uber and it was tough. I made some good friends. Um, but think about Sharna. I'll tell you the time that

because every times we really got into big fights. But again you just aren't with someone that much and and not fight. We were practicing for the Waltz. I'm not sure which walts was Viennese waltz stuff, Kentucky Waltz. I don't know, that's the thing. We're practicing for the Walts. And we were exhausted because again I was working on radio show. We're flying across the country back and forth. I was doing comedy shows. She would fly with me too.

I had to do a show in Indiana. So she met me in Chicago to just dance for six seven hours and she flew back out and then I had to drive. I mean it was NonStop and so and I don't say they complaining, but just so you know where our minds where we would get to these practices and we were already exhausted. And so she met me in Nashville because I had to come home for two days for something. Oh, I know what it was. It

was the musicians musicians on calling thing. Yeah, so um, having a big fundraiser with musicians on call and we're practicing here. We're both so tired, and she got mad at me for rolling my eyes at her. Again, you know when you're hungry or you're tired and you're just irritable. We were both there. We have both hit our peak. This is like week eight or something seven or I don't know. We had both hit our peak of just so tired and anything was gonna set us off. They

had traded as producers. We had one producer named Mike the whole time that we loved, and he got cut for some reason, and we hated that because he was like our dude, and anything would have set the other person off. And she got mad at me for rolling my eyes, and I was like, um, roll my eyes. I don't roll my eyes. I don't talk to people in roll my but I was like, man, maybe I'm

so tired to roll my eyes at her. She got so mad, and at the same time I was getting mad at her because she was frustrated that I couldn't get some steps right. We would do it fifty seven times and I couldn't get it, and so we were both She was like, don't roll your eyes. I was like, stop treating me like a kid like, I'm working as hard as I can, and she was like, if you're gonna roll your eyes, and she left the room and the cameras around the whole time, and I remember going,

this is reality show. Let's show him reality. Well we're fighting, and so still in the back of my head, I'm going, I don't roll my eyes. Ever, Here's what happened. We were doing a waltz and I was spinning so much. I was so motion sick that I was trying to catch my balance and by doing that, my eyes are rolling on the top of my head, like like ohh. And she took that as me rolling my eyes just miscommunication as all it was because I don't roll my eyes and I was getting so sick. I have my

doctors in medicine pro motion sickness. By the way, first danswer she's ever had to get motion sick dancing. Not only do we have a hairline fracture on my foot, a slight tear on my shoulder, but also I got motion sick like crazy and so but that was just a product of being together all the time. And I don't even know that she was even frustrated, because she would watch her the video on the phone and she'd be like, Oh, I don't know who she was mad a. I don't know. She may not even mad at me.

She could have mad at herself for me not being able to get it. But we were both just so worn out that we were we just took it out on each other. I remember flying from Nashville back to Los Angeles. We sat beside each other. They put us in first class every time, which is super cool to show to do that. I think it's in everybody's contract. Um. We didn't say a worried each other the whole time for five hours, got off the airplane, went our separate ways.

It was like a marriage and that it was the week that I said that, like a uh et or something. I was like, it was like a marriage. Man. Most times great, Sometimes it's not. But you're committed to working it out because you have to, because there's a there's an end goal. And so we uh We had some some big, big blow ups, but it always came back to the fact that there was such respect between us that we were there to work and win the freaking thing. I didn't know how we're gonna do it. We had

to trust each other. I had to trust her that she was gonna get me to whatever place and I would stay if we needed. There were again, there were nice. We practiced for fourteen hours, and there were nice. We would go and do dress rehearsal on the show, and she made me we go back to the be the only ones to go back and train. But I trusted that she wasn't punishing me, that she was actually putting me in the best place to move forward. And she trusted me to do whatever crazy stuff I was gonna do,

not even crazy, entertaining and frankly things I wanted to do. Anyway, I can't wait till they send my autitrap shoe back. I'm waiting for it. I was like, how often am I gonna get this is me? And I told Miked I was gonna do this is I'm gonna put a sharpie in my sock and I forgot to get the sharpie from you? Did you bring the sharpie? And if

we got to get it from you? And I was like, I'm gonna put a sharpie in my sock on the last night, and if it goes well, I'm gonna go getta sign my shoe because how cool will that be? To have in my house. I signed to you by all three of the judges. What are they ever gonna be sitting together again except for on TV? So we do the mc hammer dance and everybody's like they do this thing where they're like boa and I reached down, take my shoe off, pull my sharpy out of my

sock that I danced in. I felt it too while I was dancing, and heart a little bit, and I went over and I had him signed my shoe on TV because I knew there would be no other time to get him to do that. But I did what I thought anyone would do if they ran into all

three of those judges. You're going to sign something, You take a picture with them and so um, and she trusted me to do really whatever I felt to entertain the people watching the show, and she trusted me that I thought that I figured out how to actually win the show by not being the best dancer. It's not strictly a dance competition, are It's not, or they wouldn't

put the votes in there. If you don't want to watch a full dance show, go go to PBS and watch ballroom dancing and there's your best dance show right there. And so I think if people know that they approached it like it's an it's entertainment. They don't put something on ABC in prime time that isn't as entertaining as it can possibly be. Um, and I freaking want the show. I remember the the Uh, we'll run through the contestants in a minute if you want, and give your stories

about each of them. Um, I remember doing we to the finale. We're standing there around that ball. Nobody ever told me anything. I also listen, there are conspiracy theories behind everything on that show where the people are slotted. I I I don't think there's a conspiracy to have someone win the show. And I say that as someone who won is I don't think that it was they had.

They faced a lot of criticism after I won, and it wasn't comfortable for anyone, and I think, really, if they were going to do what they thought would be best for the show, they would have Milo would have won because he was the best dancer, and that had made me second. That way, it's like, oh, look at this guy, he finished second. He did really good and never dance finished second. That's why I don't I just

I don't believe there's a conspiracy on that show. And I say that as a person who won, I know, and and how weird that is. I just don't because I thought if they were at the last minute, they'd have been like, oh, we should give to somebody who's really good, because I mean, really, Mike, if I would have finished second, everybody's been like, that's a great you did a great job. Somebody, Yeah, somebody that the right person one because he was the best dancer, which Milo was,

and look at you you did second. Come on. They could have done that so easily, and then the next and then nobody gets pissed everybody he would have won, not me, and my heart, I wouldn't have one. And I felt the pressure to me started about weeks five or six, when I really felt like my people just voting and I could see it on social media and I could feel it. That's where the pressure came from to me. It wasn't from me, it wasn't from Sharnay.

It was like, I really got to work hard and I gotta get better because who votes on our freaking TV show? I don't like Twice Taylor Hicks on an American Idol that maybe it. I think about it, so I knew what I was trying to do. I was asking people to vote for me when I only ever voted up. I got super passionate about something. Why was that so passionate about Taylor Hicks by the way, I don't know, but I was. And I'm so appreciative because I know the people voting for me don't normally vote

on those shows. They don't, but I felt like I was representing them, and because of that, there was a lot of pressure that I put on myself to really do that and to do them justice. Um, we win, and I'm like, holy crap. And what's funny is I watched a lot of the videos from other couples when they won the show after after we won. I didn't do it until after we won. And what happens is when people win the show, they hug immediately and go right like yeah, and they like what can you believe it?

We're both so shocked. We run away from each other like I'm like I found my hands and I'm like, oh my goodness, and she just like starts walking backward. Yeah. She was like it was like when you like out of breath, you know, put your hands on your legs or you're like vomiting. That's what she did. And for me, I put my hands in my head. I was like,

oh my god, I cannot believe this actually happened. It was like we were separated, and it was the opposite of what other what's happened with other couples, because we were both in shocked that they were actually giving us that trophy. And so we go and it's a whirlwind. It's almost blurry what happened afterwards, because you're just thrown

to so much press. But what was important to me is that all my people that flew out to California because I brought out a mod, I brought up Jared and Amy and all these people came out that I I left all the press and I'll just to go out and hang out with you guys for a bit, because all of that other stuff wasn't gonna be there in three or four days. You know who cares. Dancing stars won't even matter in a few weeks to anybody else. Like, I'm still living in a bit, but the world moves on.

I'll be on American Idol. I'll always be the world's best dancer. Don't get me wrong, but you know, there's been many other Dancing with the Stars champions, and I think it's something. This is a cool memory that we all have together. But I wanted to come over on the ball room and hang out with my people that were there to support me, and They're like, Bobby, need to get depressed, and I was like, nope, all these people came to see me, I'm gonna spend some time

with them. So in the middle of it, I went over and as it was just it was still Haywire on the floor, I went over and hung out at the judge's table with everybody. It was just like, how crazy is this? And then I went back into press and I got to meet him at Smith. I gotta meet a lot of cool people on the show. Boys them in the Blue Man Group, Emtt Smith, Um, Donnie Osmond.

There were so many people that came through. Lauren Dagle, who's a newer pop artist now but I'm a big fan of hung out with her, like half an hour on the finale we were practicing. Uh, I'll probably go through this and look back and realize the mc hammer tweeted me that's cool. So many good memories came from this show, and I think there will even be some people that come from the show that I'll be friends with. I think Sharn and I will forever be bonded by us.

We we did this show together, and had we just done the show together, it always been like, remember the time we did that show together. We see each other way, but because we won, will always be bonded together. There's just something to her winning her first trophy with me and me not I still don't know what I'm doing. I if you ever wondered if you could do something, You're like, I don't know if I could do that. I freaking want a dance show. You can do anything,

Like you can do anything. I want to dance show. And I didn't win it by just dancing. But it doesn't matter what you want to do. You don't win. You don't actually get ahead by just doing what you're supposed to do. Because I know, I'm really talented people that haven't quite figured out how to use their talent to get to the highest level. But I know some talent to people that also think about things in a

different way and are and are super successful. Um. But but aside from that, let's run through the contestants, because there really wasn't anyone that people didn't like. I didn't talk to Nash hardly. Ever. She would come in and out and she was doing I think she was like singing and stuff. So she would be the only one that I really don't have any story about because we

really didn't talk. Never anything negative. Nobody ever said anything negative, and they often said that our cast was one of the like the nicest casts, because we were all just happy to be there. But other than to Nash, I kind of had stories with everybody. You know, it's some kind of bond. Alright, go ahead, you got Nikki Glazer, one of the funniest people I ever met my whole life. Like there's like I do comedy right, and it's like someone who is really good in their high school, in

their high school league. I go out in new shows, people laughing, right, Oh, it's funny show. But then once they get up and they see major league players, are like, oh my god, this is not the same. I should shut up now and just go back to my high school league and have fun there. Um comedian, funniest person, possibly the funniest person ever met, such so good that it made me realize I suck all right, go ahead Danielle instead. Um I didn't spend a whole lot of time.

She got voted off kind of early. But Danielle was she was blind, and what we talked about a lot was she wants to write a book. And she was like, I'm not to writ a book. I'm not to put it all out there. And I was like, I didn't know how to write a book. Clueless. That's how ever, in Tuna, I said the same thing about that as

I did with the show. Just do it. Just go into it, do it wrong, because you can do it wrong and you figure out how to do it right, or you realize the wrong way that you're doing it. It's just the right way no one else has tried yet. And so we talked a lot about that, and we talked. We had a lot. Even when she came back, we talked about that about her book A super nice um I think she got voted off second or third. Yeah, So again the quicker people got voted off except for Nicki.

Nicki and I stayed in touch the whole time because we had actually written some stuff with each other. Um I still talked to Nicky. Nick was in my final dance. But yeah, Danielle, and that's what we really really talked about about, Like she was really nice. What else blood Mary Lou I asked her to be on my final dance. She got sick the last day. She was gonna be on top of the cake with NICKI. I thought when they cast that show that she was going to win

the show because she was the most famous one. In my mind, she was the most famous one because she was the one they put in the header merrily read and cast on Dancing with the Stars because she was the gold medalist. Now she was gold medalist. I think I don't know years she was going medalist. I may not even been able to watch it on TV eighty four or something. Hey, okay, so I was. I didn't watch TV then. I wasn't even a kindergarten yet. But

she was the most famous. Remember meeting her the first day we went up to do uh like clothes like, and she was super nice, and I was like, holy crap, merely written is nice? Um? But yeah, I really enjoyed her and I met her kids. I think she even said on the show she was going through a divorce. Like on we never saw the packages. Even during the show we could we even see them most time because they had us going other places, like the things leading up to the dance. Go Ahead, Nancy for them the

Facts of Life Nancy McKinnon. We were both kind of clueless when we got there and we were on a bus and nobody wanted to sit with us. It was like Forrest Gump and I was walking through, and you're more intimidated by the fact that you think people don't want to sit with you, or don't like you, or that you're weird. That's how I felt. I felt like

the outcast. And I walked through the bus and all these fancy dancers, which by the way, I became friends with later and realized they're super cool, normal people, but it was like, can't see it here, That's what I felt like. Seats taken and Nancy Joe from the Facts of Life was like, hey, sit with me, and I was like, boom, cool person. And she lives in Austin and so I was like, does at home? So yeah,

it was really cool. What else? John Snyder? When I would watch John dance, he was like the consummate performer, like he regardless, he was getting things right or not. His face. Everything about him was controlled and like I would watch him and go, man, I wish I could do that, because everything about me wasn't. It was the opposite. My face is all over the place, my um uh. And John was a really nice guy. I know from watching reruns The Dukes of Hazzard. I guess he was

on Small Bill. Didn't know that. But he was gone a lot, So I don't have a lot of John stories because he was gone a lot. He was staying in Louisiana or Nashville, and so he would travel a lot. But his dance partner, Emma, one of my favorite people that I met that entire show because after they got kicked off, she worked with me a lot. Um. But Johnson and guy did. I don't have a lot of stories about it because he was gone the whole time.

Maybe my favorite dude that met between him and Joe, maybe my favorite dude, nicest guy, possibly the greatest defensive end outside linebacker, I wonder, depending on what defense he was in that we've seen in the NFL in the last twenty years, and I was like this dude, I was a little intimidated by him, but the nicest guy the nicest guy. Everybody loved a Marcus because he was so nice, but he was so big. And I brought him my final dance because I loved him so much,

and he lifted me up above his head. He's huge, loved it, loved him, love it. Can't say enough good things about him. I really would go to Wan Pablo and say, like, dude, you are so freaking talented everything you do. And I liked Wan Pablo a lot um When he went home, and I said this on the show, I thought he was way too good to go home. But the competitive part of me was like, I'm glad he's gone. I'd never be able to beat him dancing, so let's get rid of all the good dancers. Let's

just leave me and grocery store Joe. Let's let us battle it out to the death. I really liked Wan Pablo, though quiet, and I think some people we're afraid to approach him because he was so perfect and everything he looked great, he danced great, seeing he ate great. Everything about him was just right. He's just amazing. Everything about it was amazing. I think some people were intidated by him.

I wasn't. I would go up to him. Like dude, and I would ask him questions about because he went to like fame school that you know, he went to school talking about a seing and dance and he danced in all these broadways And I was like, dude, you were everything I'm not and it's amazing. I like him Pablo a lot. Alexis, we didn't talk a whole lot. You know, she was around, but she didn't say a whole lot. She was very sweet when she would talk, but yeah, she we didn't. You know, there was me

and her partner. I loved Alan, like that was the dude. But yeah, Legis, I didn't talk a whole lot. She was never not nice, but we just didn't you know, what does she like two and I'm thirty eight? Like what does she have in common with me? I would try to talk to he a little bit, but you know, I don't know. We didn't talk a whole lot. Love

We got a team weeks. She became a best friend, uh and then we became so close after and she they were the only couple that I genuinely rooted good for everybody else I'd be like, I like you hope you fall down? Um her and Kio I would watch. I didn't watch a single dance the last four weeks. I watched no nobody else's dances ever, because I realized it was doing nothing but affecting me in a negative way.

Because I knew I couldn't do that, I was just gonna do what I did, except there's I would watch the and I would root so hard that they would do good because they were just so awesome. I loved them as a team. She was from Harry Potter, never seen Harry Potter, so to me, that wasn't a thing. Um, it was really cool. And that's the only dances that I watched the final like month of the show. She's a vegan and she would lecture me on veganism. Didn't care.

She was the best. And I would go like, how do you know plants can't feel We just can't talk to them, you know we how we community? She's like, well, they have no and I'd be like, anyway, there's a whole thing. I loved her. She wrote a funny Instagram post in one of her last instagrams about she was like he congratulations to Bobby. I would watch you in team week and you had you were clueless and you would work double the time just to try to catch up.

She was right, I would have to. And I thought her post was so funny because she was like congratulating me, but also kind of taking a funny like a little funniest fight, like you really weren't a good dancer. I know, I know, I loved her. I would talk about her for thirty minutes. Go ahead, dude, that kid, he's gonna be so famous. He's gonna be still. He's seventeen, He's gonna be so famous. Good looking kid, great personality, great dance.

There can sing like if we would forget sometimes he was seventeen because he was so mature for his age, and his mom was super nice. Cameron Manheim, who I didn't really know her from acting, that would look her up afterwards We're like, oh yeah, I like at that. She's said some stuff. I love the kid, and early on in the the show would kind of give him tips on how to work with the camera, like during the live show, like, dude, don't do dead face. I always

have something to say. And I started to coach him a little bit and then I realized he's probably gonna beat me. And I was about week five I saw him, go back, go back, nothing. He used to do great kid, like great, his mom should be so proud. Should have won the show like you should have. If any other season, if I wouldn't have been there and approached a different way, he'd have won the show. Best dancer left, all in all, best well rounded on that show, like dancer and lovableness.

If I hadn't cracked the code, he had won the show. Great. I couldn't say enough good things about it. Love that kid. What else? That was? Like, my dude, Like we bonded over just life. We're both thrown into something. We had no comfort doing this together doing it, but we were together. We'd be at the urinal being beside each other and be like, dude, you're nervous. I'm so nervous. Oh my god. Every week and then it'll be like you're getting less nervous. U uh. And I put him in my final dance

because we really bonded. They've never seen The Bachelor or the Bachelor in Paradise, so there wasn't that where I was like, oh, just he was just a normal dude aside from me. He was just a normal of the normalist dudes there. And we kept getting put through. We were both feeling criticism, and he came up to me after He's like, hey, man, I know I've been eliminated, but like I'm rooted for you because like you're kind of representing us. And so I really liked Joe, really

liked him a lot. Took a minute because he's real quiet, and when someone's really quiet, you go they had dick or they just quiet. It turns out he was just quiet but so funny. I really like Joe. On the dancer side of things, I think my favorite like um Emma and saw Asha. They're two dancers, two different pros. Emma dance with John Schneider and Sasha danced with merry Ly Retten, but they're married. They're like, I want to

be friends with them forever. They were that they were so nice and I get to go back on a tour for a few days and I really am looking forward to hanging out with them and Lindsay, who was to Marcus partner. Like they really worked with me um Whenever Charlotte was like instructing the big group, they would pull me aside and work with me. Um Kio. There were times with Keyo had to teach me how to

dance their team weak goes me and Kyo. Dude, he was doing the girl parts and he was just he was like, he's that Bobby, let's do it, and that sounds like an Australian. He's not a strong but like, there's means so many cool people that you don't want to vows like the coolest dude ever. But he got kicked off quickly because he had Nancy. I think so there are a lot of them. The troupe is good. Is there anything I haven't said anything that any bombshell? I haven't I said I think you think of it

was that it was the best experience. I'm so glad it's over. People were going, man, two days after the show, you're gonna be wake m Ben and be like, well, what's happening? Two days later, welcome the show. I was like, thank God, it's not happening. I was so tired. I actually went in box today for the first time. I went to a boxing class. My cardio is an A plus. Did a whole class and I was like, I'm not

even breathing. I have a little gut right now because I've been eating like crap because I'm like SCREWPT I don't care right now, but my cardio is a plus. I found this little lump on my lif It talked about this little ump I found in my leg um. I found this little lump on my leg and I was like, oh no, I was kind of rubbing it and yeah, it's a calf calf muscle. Yeah it's the first time ever. Yeah you like that. Thank you very much. It was an awesome experience. I'm glad I didn't know

how hard it was going into it. I'm glad I didn't know how bad I was before I did it. I didn't know I was gonna be that bad. To everyone who keeps messaging me, going you suck as a dancer, shut up. I don't think I'm any better than you do. Like anything else that I do, I'm never the most talented, but I'm gonna outwork everyone, and I'm also gonna I'm gonna know the rules so well. Like radio, I know the rules so well, I know when I need to

go to break. I know the science behind it's so well that it allows me whenever I do my creative thing, I can work inside the guidelines. The same with the show. I just learned the science of the show. And I'll end with this. I believe that you have to surround yourself with good people in order to do great things. And I did that between you guys, the best. Could not have done it without you at all, zero present. I would have done it without you and Sharna, which

is would have never happened. I surrounded myself with the best people. Let me also put my radio staff in there, because they had to endure a lot of me coming in exhausted. They had to endure me being the high, highest and lowest of moods. It's physically pushed in ways I've never been pushed before. And there's a big shadow that goes to them too. So I believe if you can surround yourself with the best people, great things can happen. And if you have people who aren't going around you,

it's up to you to change it. You can either change them or change the way that you're working. And so I think this. I think that's how long has this been a little over an hour? All right? Anything I've not said in that in the tell all? I think. The thing I just wondered from being there every week is do you guys have like a list of like things you can pull from for like the set, like if you want fire like water. Um, so there's a creative. I would I was not a good enough to answer

to really know about the creative. But the producers on that show, Um, there's an executive producer named Ashley that is so good at what she does and like Sharna was the best, best choreographer, the best idea person our final dance, Like I sent sharnas some ideas like I wanted to talk and stuff, and she created this fantastic dance just for me, like built for me. And they do, um,

really wonderful jobs of doing that. I don't know. I have nothing to do with that, but I think they come up with these concepts and um, they make it happen. I'm not educated enough to give that answer. But no, I don't get to walk around a warehouse and go, I'll take the cow, I'll take the I'll take the large honey badger. Can I get the Bazuka? No? I don't. That was just crazy to see them just pull out

these big, elaborate pieces for one dance. It takes this entire team just get this one car out there or something or set this like pyrotechnic. It was crazy, no idea, not educated enough to give that answer. ABC was fantastic, The company BBC was fantastic, the people that own the show, the people. It was just such a great experience. The hardest thing I would Yeah, is it? So? I think that's it? Anything else you wanna ask? All right, thank

you so much. Hopefully this answer some question sens also hit me out. Appreciate you all right? This episode? What thanks to life flock you feel like people like this one? I think? Yeah, all right, shout out. If I forgot you, I'm sorry and I gotta go bye ready m hm h