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Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America's boardrooms.
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Episodes

Boardroom Diversity and the Black Corporate Board Readiness Program

(0:00) Intro. (1:25) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:11) Start of interview. (2:56) Zain Oke 's origin story . (5:08) Dianna Jones 's origin story . (8:25) Dennis Lanham 's origin story . (12:00) How executive education works (as opposed to degree conferring programs) (14:22) On the origin and mission of the Black Corporate Board Readiness (BCBR) program at Santa Clara University. (17:41) On the role of community and mentorship at BCBR. (22:11) On lawye...

Oct 07, 202457 minEp. 152

Maggie Wilderotter: Strategic Oversight and the Attributes of Great Directors

(0:00) Intro. (1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:15) Start of interview. (3:05) Maggie's origin story . (7:08) Maggie's board career . Reference to HBS case study on her . On staying on boards between 8-12 years to remain independent . (10:19) On distinctions between serving on public and private company boards. The role of directors in each. *Reference to VC-Backed Board Academy (VCBA) on Oct 29, 2024 at Nasdaq in NYC. (13:37) On PE-backed company ...

Sep 30, 202448 minEp. 151

Peter Gleason: CEO of NACD on 2024 Board Practices and Oversight Surveys – Trends and Takeaways

(0:00) Intro. (1:23) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:10) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episode with Peter ( E83 from Jan 2023 ). (3:00) NACD Surveys on Board Practices and Oversight: Private Company Results and Public Company Results . (3:44) 1/ On Technology Oversight : "We are seeing boards go after technology, not necessarily expertise, but experience." (11:16) 2/ On CEO Succession Planning . "Succession is always a challenge at companies, ...

Sep 23, 202451 minEp. 150

Cedric Bru: CEO of Taulia (now part of SAP) on Boardroom Dynamics and the Value of Teamwork

(0:00) Intro. (1:03) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:50) Start of interview. (2:24) Cedric's origin story . (4:30) U.S. talent management insights (cultural differences with other countries): current merit . (6:00) On his management career with HP, Visa, and Syncada from Visa (a joint venture between Visa and U.S. Bank). (8:13) His transition to Taulia , a venture-backed company, in 2013. (11:04) On managing board dynamics as CEO and Chair of Taulia as ...

Sep 09, 202457 minEp. 149

Yvonne Wassenaar: On Boardroom Dynamics and Trends from Silicon Valley

(0:00) Intro. (1:03) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:50) Start of interview. *Reference to E137 with Coco Brown (CEO of Athena Alliance) . (2:47) Yvonne's origin story . (5:49) Her executive career starting with Accenture, and later with VMware, New Relic, and CEO of Airware and Puppet. (9:03) On her board journey . Distinctions between private and public company service. Plus non-profits. (17:43) Explaining board composition and dynamics in VC-backed c...

Sep 02, 202459 minEp. 148

Javier Saade: From Capital Formation to Governance, plus his Top of the Game

(0:00) Intro. (1:15) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:02) Start of interview. (2:49) Javier's origin story . (4:31) The blurring lines between VC and PE . Cross-over investors, growth equity investors, and other "alternative" financing. (9:01) On the capital formation cycle . Impact of interest-rates in capital allocation. The VC power law . New VC vehicles. (16:00) On the rise of cross-over investors ("starting somewhere between 2013 and 2016: rise of s...

Aug 26, 20241 hrEp. 147

Carol Hansell: Insights on Modern Governance

(0:00) Intro. (1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:57) Start of interview. (2:30) Carol's origin story . (4:34) Evolution of corporate governance in Canada since the late 1980s. (5:51) The origin and focus of her firm Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group , based in Canada. (10:13) On her personal board career and the benefits of lawyers serving on boards. (14:20) Best practices for board evaluations and distinctions between board education in Canada and ...

Aug 05, 202451 minEp. 146

Oliver Cummings: Unlocking Boardroom Excellence - Insights from Nurole's CEO

(0:00) Intro. (1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:07) Start of interview. (2:58) Oliver's origin story . (7:00) His experience in private equity with PE-backed boards . (9:57) About the mission and focus of Nurole , the UK-based board search firm where he serves as CEO. (12:27) On Nurole's network of 65,000+ board leaders (two parts: free and paid offerings). (20:16) Demystifying the board search process, four key stages: Briefing stage Sourcing proc...

Jul 29, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 145

Thompson Paine (Anthropic): "The Potential of AI Technology is Massive"

(0:00) Intro. (1:05) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:52) Start of interview. (2:28) Thompson's origin story . (3:42) His startup work at Quizlet (joined a 5 person team) and Stripe (from 2k to 8k employees). Joined Anthropic in early 2023. (6:25) On China-US relations , and the course he teaches at Vanderbilt Law School: Emerging Technologies, Law, and U.S.-China Competition. (11:04) On startup incorporations , Delaware, and other thoughts for entrepren...

Jul 17, 202452 minEp. 144

Natasha Allen: Navigating AI Regulation, Exits, and Boardroom Challenges

(0:00) Intro (1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:06) Start of interview. (2:37) Natasha's "origin story." (6:25) On the risks and opportunities for AI . (8:39) On the regulatory landscape of AI in the US. Reference to President Biden's Executive Order . (11:40) On California's regulation of AI (SB 1047). (15:24) On the international AI regulatory landscape , including the EU AI legislation . (20:35) On the state of startups and venture capital in Sil...

Jul 09, 202446 minEp. 143

Tyler Shultz: Theranos Whistleblower on Fraud and Startup Governance in Silicon Valley

(0:00) Intro (1:06) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:53) Start of interview. (2:37) Tyler's "origin story." (4:50) His beginnings at Theranos. (7:07) On the culture of the Theranos , "the company was extremely secretive and paranoid." (9:41) On the lack of equity compensation for Theranos employees. (10:32) On Theranos' board of directors. (16:50) Some of the prominent investors in Theranos, and lack of due diligence. (19:24) On Elizabeth Holmes and Sunn...

Jul 01, 202456 minEp. 142

Ilya Strebulaev: Venture Mindset Takeaways for Board Members.

(0:00) Intro. (1:39) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:25) Start of interview. Reference to E21 with Ilya Strebulaev from October 2020. (4:01) On why he wrote his book The Venture Mindset : for decision makers in large organizations. (5:37) About the first principle: Home Runs Matter, Strikeouts Don’t . Make small bets vs fear of failure. (7:23) Two types of innovation : incremental (step by step) vs. disruptive innovation. (13:32) The unique role that in...

Jun 25, 202458 minEp. 141

Greg LaBlanc: "It's Really Hard to be a Good Board Member"

(0:00) Intro. (1:19) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:05) Start of interview. (2:58) Greg's "origin story." (5:31) His teaching focus. (8:04) Discussion on startups and venture capital and the era of AI. Behavioral finance and bubbles. (11:17) Bubbles in private (VC and PE) and public markets. (15:12) Staying private vs going public fundamentals. (20:05) The role of governance and advice from directors to CEOs. (22:43) On growth of private equity . (28:0...

Jun 17, 202456 minEp. 140

Jennifer Dulski: "To Join (Your First) Public Board, Someone Needs to Bet on You"

(0:00) Intro. (1:21) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:08) Start of interview. (2:41) Jennifer's "origin story." (3:41) Founding a non-profit at the start of her career: Breakthrough Pittsburgh . (4:15) The start of her tech career with Yahoo! (7:12) Her roles post Yahoo!: founding and selling The Dealmap to Google . (9:20) Her transition and tenure as president & COO of Change.org (scaling from 18 million to 200 million users). About her Motivational...

Jun 10, 202458 minEp. 139

Sonita Lontoh: On Board Culture, Innovation, and Creative Tension

(0:00) Intro. (1:24) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:12) Start of interview. (4:04) Sonita's "origin story." (5:45) Her professional career, starting with a startup in the gaming industry. (8:15) Her guiding principles for her career at the intersection of innovation, sustainability and digital transformation. (9:30) Her roles at HP, Siemens and PG&E . (11:00) Her board "portfolio" life starting in 2022: SunRun and TrueBlue . Advisor to Sway Venture...

Jun 03, 202453 minEp. 138

Coco Brown: Founder & CEO of Athena Alliance on Board Opportunities and Governance.

(0:00) Intro. (1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:02) Start of interview. (2:37) Coco's "origin story." (4:32) Her professional background with HR, comp and IT. (6:32) Her time at Taos , a professional services business in IT consulting (17yrs). Ultimately acquired by IBM in 2021. (8:35) The origin story of her founding Athena Alliance (2016) as a non-profit. (11:00) Three core issues with board placements: 1) access to opportunities, 2) positioning ...

May 28, 202448 minEp. 137

Greg Gretsch: On Founder and Investor Trends from Silicon Valley.

(0:00) Intro. (1:17) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:03) Start of interview. (3:08) Greg's "origin story." (6:53) From the University of Georgia to Apple in Cuppertino. (10:50) The start of his entrepreneurial journey in 1992 with his first company. (13:03) The boom and bust cyclical nature of Silicon Valley. "[M]y father used to say that the stock market has predicted nine of the last three recessions. And, you know, I think in Silicon Valley, the inve...

May 20, 20241 hr 10 minEp. 136

Patrick Gadson: Shareholder Activism in 2024 and its Evolving Dynamics.

(0:00) Intro. (1:23) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:10) Start of interview. (2:40) Patrick's "origin story." (3:41) His time at Skadden and Olshan Frome Wolosky (leading shareholder activism legal practice). (4:38) Joining Vinson & Elkins to co-build shareholder activism practice. (6:40) Distinguishing between large, mid, and small cap activism. (10:14) Reference to Lazard's 2023 Annual Review of Activism and Patrick's 2024 trends to watch out in a...

Apr 29, 202453 minEp. 135

Leah Solivan: The Entrepreneur's Journey to the Boardroom.

(0:00) Intro. (1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:57) Start of interview. (2:40) Leah's "origin story." (3:41) Her time at IBM . (4:48) Her founding story of TaskRabbit (Boston, 2008). (12:43) The evolution of her board at TaskRabbit, and how to think about (startup) board composition and scaling . (20:31) First CEO succession (after $12m Series B in 2012). (25:10) Her return as CEO , raising a Series C, and adding 3 strategic independent directors. ...

Apr 22, 202456 minEp. 134

Jeffrey Saviano (EY): "I Feel Strongly That We Need a Hippocratic Oath for AI"

(0:00) Intro. (1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:58) Start of interview. (2:43) His role at EY and appointments at Harvard's Safra Center for Ethics (ELSCE), MIT and Boston University . (5:23) Defining AI. Reference to the 1956 Dartmouth AI conference . (8:29) GAI, AI market and valuations. (11:31) On AI Ethics for business and AI governance . Reference to Harvard's Danielle Allen . (15:10) On the concept of Multistakeholderism and AI Ethics . Hippo...

Apr 15, 202459 minEp. 133

Amy Banse: On Board Dynamics and Listening Through Company Stages.

(0:00) Intro. (1:12) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:00) Start of interview. (3:10) Amy's "origin story." (6:23) Her time leading Comcast Ventures , and how Corporate Venture Capital (CVC) has evolved. (9:08) Why SF/Silicon Valley as a tech hub for Comcast Ventures. (11:19) Her first public company board experience (with Adobe). (13:15) Differences on serving on public and private (venture-backed) boards . "Much more hands-on in private companies." (15:...

Apr 08, 202455 minEp. 132

Teresa Johnson: On ESG, Boardroom Diversity, and Truth to Power.

(0:00) Intro. (1:04) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:51) Start of interview. (2:54) Terry's "origin story." (5:18) The start of her legal career with O'Melveny & Myers. (8:35) Her time at Howard Rice and her current role at Arnold & Portner (the firms merged in 2012). (11:34) Her book ESG, the Professional's Guide to the Law and Practice of ESG , published by the American Bar Association. (14:55) On the evolution of the purpose of the corporatio...

Apr 01, 202458 minEp. 131

Mary Inman: On Theranos, Meta and Representing High Profile Whistleblowers.

(0:00) Intro. (1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:14) Start of interview. (3:30) Mary's "origin story." (5:32) Her start as a whistleblower lawyer at Philips & Cohen. The advent of US Whistleblower reward programs ( CFTC , SEC , IRS , Transportation , Treasury , and DOJ soon). (7:50) The Theranos case and her representation of Tyler Schulz. (14:02) More about the SEC Whistleblower Program . (24:52) The Facebook (Meta) case and her representation ...

Mar 18, 202459 minEp. 130

Katherine Henderson and Amy Simmerman: 2023 Delaware Corporate Law and Litigation Year in Review

(0:00) Intro (1:02) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:49) Start of interview. (2:37) Katherine Henderson 's "origin story." (5:05) Amy Simmerman 's "origin story." (8:02) The origin and focus of their Delaware Corporate Law and Litigation Year in Review . (9:14) Caseload of Delaware Court of Chancery judges. (12:51) Cases involving director oversight duties ("Caremark duties"). Reference to the Blue Bell case (2019). "Mission critical risk areas." Referen...

Mar 04, 202453 minEp. 129

Vice Chancellor J. Travis Laster of the Delaware Court of Chancery: Ten Years of Trados, A Discussion of Fiduciary Duties.

(0:00) Intro. (2:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:13) Start of interview. [Interviewer: UC Law SF Professor Abe Cable . Reference to his article " Does Trados Matter? " (2019)]. (4:17) Summary of the Trados case by Vice-Chancellor Laster. (9:44) Concept of " residual value maximization. " Distinguishing between standard of conduct and standard of review. (16:17) Explaining standards of review : 1) Business judgment rule, 2) Enhanced scrutiny and 3) E...

Feb 26, 202450 minEp. 128

Alexandre Rangel: Institutional Investors' Engagement in Latin America.

(0:00) Intro. (1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:57) Start of interview. (4:00) Alexandre's "origin story." His time as Commissioner of the Brazilian Securities and Exchange Commission (CVM) (2020-2023). (7:34) On his OECD background note on Institutional Investors' Engagement in Latin America (2023). (14:56) Local institutional investors and pension funds engagement in Brazil. *reference to E118 with John Coates: The Problem of Twelve, Index Funds ...

Feb 12, 202448 minEp. 127

Richard Blake: WSGR's 2023 Silicon Valley 150 Corporate Governance Report.

(0:00) Intro. (0:55) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (1:41) Start of interview. (2:21) Richard's "origin story." His position as Chair of WSGR's public company practice and Chair of the Nasdaq Listing and Hearing Review Council . (7:30) On the origins and focus of WSGR's 2023 Silicon Valley 150 Corporate Governance Report . (12:00) What findings were most surprising or unexpected in this year's report? Discussion on ESG disclosures. (14:40) On ESG backlash...

Feb 05, 202454 minEp. 126

Scott Kupor: Navigating the VC and Startup Governance Landscape in 2024.

(0:00) Intro. (1:36) About this podcast's sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:23) Start of interview. (3:33) On the collapse of SVB and its impact to Silicon Valley and the VC industry. (9:05) On the state of private markets . *Reference to Aileen Lee's post on Unicorn update (2013-2024). (14:35) How VCs are approaching tough conversations on shutdowns, downrounds and/or recaps in this down market cycle. *Reference to Scott's book Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital a...

Jan 29, 202450 minEp. 125

Nicolas Darveau-Garneau: "The Greatest AI Risk is Inaction."

(0:00) Intro. (1:28) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (2:14) Start of interview. (3:09) Nick's "origin story." (6:36) On his first startup IMix.com (focused on music streaming) (7:55) His pivot as an equity analyst at Sanford Bernstein. (8:32) His focus on investing in and advising internet companies. (9:56) His time at Google (2010-2022), first in Canada then as Chief Evangelist. (13:21) His time at Chief Growth and Strategy Officer at Coveo , a Canadian A...

Jan 16, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 124

Joe Grundfest: "The Biggest Governance Trend for 2024 is the Corporation as a Piñata."

(0:00) Intro. (2:21) About this podcast's sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel . (3:08) Start of interview. (3:50) On collapse of SVB & other banks. Lessons for board members. *Reference to video from Stanford Rock Center (12:00) On the state of private markets and unicorns . Downturn and shutdowns in VC-backed startups. * Per Pitchbook : “Approx 3,200 private VC-backed U.S. companies have gone out of business this year. Combined, those companies raised north of $27B.” (15:32)...

Jan 09, 202450 minEp. 123
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