Working 100+ hours is just another week in the Sea Organization. Scientology Q&A #44

I was going to say , well , the cat's away , the mice will play , and then she showed up in the comments . So I'm still being watched and observed . So yeah , if you are joining us today , feel free to let us know where you're joining us from . And today's secret word is all-nighters is all-nighters .

We're going to be talking about the Sea Org , scientology , sea Org and the schedule that the individual members there keep . If you're amazed at how long they work and what they do , we'll talk about that when we get to the comments as

well . One of the most common questions that we get asked on our channel is what are these Sea Org members doing all day ? How could they keep busy when Scientology is continually shrinking more and more every year for the past several decades ? And we'll talk about that . We will do a Q&A at the end .

So if you have questions that are Sea Org schedule related , we'll try to answer those . We're trying to make it so that we have sort of a library of all these different Scientology subjects and things that go on .

And so we want to try to keep the questions that you guys ask about the Sea Org and the schedule so that this video is , you know , more productive , more informational than we would normally do . So let's go through some of the comments . We'll see who's coming into from where . We got Lapita from Texas . Y'all Thanks for joining us .

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I'm at I'm on a project right now where I have about two to three hours to travel every day and I use usually listen to music . But lately I've been putting on YouTube and different podcasts and stuff . Susie spoon , hi , from Hunter Valley , australia .

You know we did this video a little later today because I got some complaints from the down under folks that they never get to join lives . So I said , okay , well , I'll do it a few hours later . It's still early in Australia , but not so early . Howdy from Wyoming , and oh , look at this .

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If I missed you , I'm sorry . There's a lot of people from a lot of places . Hello from Chicago . Thank you , here we go . Do one last one Merrimack , nh . Is that New Haven ? 65 degrees , mark Hegg . Okay , oh boy , that's a lot of people . Thank you for joining us everybody , we appreciate it .

Again , if you want to join the giveaway that we're doing at the end of the video today , just type in hashtag all nighters and then we'll get right to it . Let's see . Is this the one ? Yeah , so I've got a hold of this schedule

. It's funny , actually . I searched for a schedule and it just happened to be a Golden Era production schedule , which is where I worked for many years schedule , which is where I worked for many years . Oh yeah , another thing . I'll just go back here for a second . We have , according to YouTube , we have a ton of new viewers that are tuning in each week .

So if I do say things that we've covered in past videos , it's for that reason . But I was in the Sea Organization . My name is Mark Headley . I was in the Sea Organization from 1989 is when I joined . I was recruited for the Sea Organization .

I grew up in Scientology and I was working and attending a Scientology school in the late 1980s and the school was actually being run by Scientology's C organization .

It was called the Delphi Academy and they are under a group called Applied Scholastics which is under a group called Able International , and Able International is the social betterment corporation of Scientology . It runs Scientology Social Betterment Corporations , which they include to be Applied Scholastics .

Narconon , which is a drug rehabilitation system developed by L Ron Hubbard that's based on no science whatsoever and is actually pretty unhealthy and they've had a lot of deaths . A group called Criminon , which is basically just the first part of the Narconon program . You do the courses and stuff , but in prison , without the drug detox .

And then another group called the Way to Happiness Foundation . And so I was attending this school , the Delphi Academy , which is a Scientology-owned and run school . They use L Ron Hubbard , what they call study technology , um and um , and they teach you a lot of Scientology in this school on the courses that you do . And then , um , I was recruited .

I was 15 . I think I was . I just had turned 16 years old when I was recruited , or I was just turning . I was right around there , so it was in the summer years old when I was recruited or I was just turning , I was right around there , so it was in the summer of 1989 . And I worked in Los Angeles .

I was actually recruited for the organization that was in charge of the school .

So I was recruited to work at ABLE International , the Association for Better Living and Education , which is in charge of all those social betterment corporations , and I worked there for about nine months and then I was transferred to the international headquarters in Gilman Hot Springs , california , where Golden Air Productions is located , and I held many posts there .

I was a quality control technician , I was a systems designer and installer , audiovisual systems designer and installer . I was a systems designer and installer , audio visual systems designer and installer . I was a shoot crew chief , which is equivalent to a first assistant director on a film crew .

I was a pre-production director that got all the costumes , makeup , sets and props and research done for films . And then I was the .

I was an assistant producer of all of the audiovisual products of the international headquarters at Golden Arrow Productions and then I went on to become the executive producer and then I was director of Audiovisual Systems International and then I skedaddled , and when I skedaddled it was in 2000 , january of 2005 .

So I essentially worked at this golden air productions facility in the sea organization from 1989 in LA and then 1990 to 2005 .

And , um , and this schedule that I'm going to show you is the bare bare minimum schedule of a Sea Org member , and pretty much all Sea Org members have a schedule that's very , very similar to this , no matter where they are , if they're in another continent or if they're in Los Angeles , if they're in Florida or New York .

There's Sea Organization installations and what they call bases all over the world and there are probably between three to 4,000 Sea Org members internationally and you get paid . When I was there and I've been told that it went up for a little bit but then it went back down you get paid around $50 a week . That's what you get paid .

If in the C organization For the schedule that we're about to show you , you make $50 and then they pay taxes out of that 50 bucks . So you get about when I was there , I think it was $46.24 or something like that $44.26 and something almost 45 bucks is your takeaway after , after the government gets that cut .

Um , so yeah , 45 bucks a week for this schedule . So now let's talk about , let's show the schedule . Okay , so this is um and this is what's called an issue in the sea organization . It's just something that's issued to all of the staff and it's basically like general information .

And this is the Golden Era Productions Extension Unit basic schedule and this is from 26 June 1987 . So it was a few years before I started working there , but this was generally the schedule at the base base as well . At the golden air production's main uh property , this um unit , there's a .

There's a unit in los angeles because we're a studio in the middle of the desert in gilman hot springs , california . It's about two to two and a half hours outside of los angeles . Because we're dealing in the studio world , we often need studio equipment and parts and tools and camera equipment and lighting equipment that is located in Los Angeles .

So there's an extension unit of Golden Arrow Productions in Los Angeles . They're basically a logistics arm of the Golden Arrow Productions desert base and they go pick up equipment and then they send it out to the property . Because it's a confidential location , there has to be like an in-between , a go-between , a cutout to go get this stuff .

Okay , so Golden Air Productions extension unit basic schedule Monday , tuesday , wednesday , thursday , friday and Sunday basic schedule . Now , the reason that they exclude Saturday is because on Saturday there's a policy that L Ron Hubbard wrote . L Ron Hubbard is the founder , the source , of all Scientology technology .

L Ron Hubbard wrote that if you worked in golden era productions , that you should do what's called renovations every weekend and enhance the property . So there's a core team of electrical and construction and HVAC . There's a handful of

guys that are in each of those departments and they do change the filters and stuff like that . If a new building needs to be built at the property , the staff of the property build this building , everyone who works there .

When I was there , there was almost a thousand crew that worked at this property and I would say about 800 of those people participated in the renovations , like David Miscavige , the chairman of the board of RTC he ain't doing renos on Saturday and there were other executives like that , like the heads of some of the different organizations , like the commanding officer

of the Commodores Messenger organization he's not doing renos . So mainly the rank and file that would participate in the renovations . And so that's why Saturday has got a different thing and we'll get into renno's a little bit later , okay , so this schedule has them from 0900 to 0930 breakfast .

So in los angeles they live and work in the exact same location , so they're just walking from one building to another building , like on the same block usually . Or maybe in the case of the complex in Hollywood they might have an apartment building that's five or six blocks away and they just walk to the property .

I think now they have almost everybody living in the main building at the complex . If somebody knows something different , you can put it in the comments and hopefully those people start . I might even read it . Okay , so half hour for breakfast , 9 to 9.30 .

From 9.30 to 9.35 , you have what's called a muster and in the C organization you at least have three musters a day . Sometimes you might have four or five , depending on the base and what's going on at the time .

At the imp base there were times when we might have five or six musters a day because so many people were escaping from the property that they needed to count their chickens every few hours to see if we lost any so that they wouldn't get such a big head start on the people looking for them . I laugh , but that's 100% true . Okay , so you have a muster .

That's basically the commanding officer of that organization is like okay , this is what we're supposed to do . This happened yesterday or last week . We're not doing any of that , we're going to do this , whatever it's usually it could be . It's supposed to be like two to three minutes . Sometimes these musters would go for an hour .

If there was a lot of stuff going on , it was a lot . Okay , then from in this schedule they have these guys studying in the morning . Now a study period is two and a half hours . So , depending on your schedule , you would either study from morning to lunch or from mid-afternoon to dinner or after dinner for two and a half hours .

It's a morning study , afternoon study or an evening study slot . So these guys here in this unit in LA would study in the morning and you can see it's from 9.35 to 12 o'clock . It's two and a half hour slot . Then you have from noon to 12 45 . They had exercise time and hygiene time . This is wild guys . So this is basically exercise time .

So they've got 45 minutes to exercise and then wash up after exercise . Um , now , I'm not familiar with this midday exercise time thing , cause we at the inner bay , at the base , our exercise time was at 10 o'clock . We would exercise from 10 to 10 45 .

And then you just , it was the end of the night , so , like , well , you don't need to wash up Cause you're just going to go home . You should probably take a shower then . Um , so you would just basically get on the bus after exercise stinking like you just played 45 minutes of basketball . Okay , Then these guys are having lunch from 1245 to 115 .

Now , that is a normal mealtime . That's a half an hour meal . That's a normal meal in the C organization . Um , I don't think in the entire time I was there , lunch was more than a half hour . You just and that's travel time to lunch , eat lunch and travel time back from lunch .

So if you worked at the gold base , um , your , your work building could be a 10-minute walk from the dining hall , and if you left at 11.50 to go to lunch at 12 o'clock , you were in trouble . So , yeah , some people will be like I got to go pick something up over at the garage and the garage was next to the dining hall and you'd leave at like 11.45 .

So then you go pick something up and then you just go eat . You got to really be strategic on how you're going to milk that 30 minutes there . Okay , then we go muster . Okay , here we go See another muster . This is very key . I saw this in the comments . Chinese school , yes , like it's like . Chinese school , yeah , chinese school , we'll .

We'll talk about that right now . Okay , so from 12, . So this says 115 to 120 , muster and Chinese school . So again , they got to count everybody . In the way they do a muster in the C organization is you line up at attention in lines of your division .

Now if you have a giant division you might have several lines , but usually in a C organization division there's at least three departments of each division . So you would line up by department and if your department had a hundred people then you might have to make three lines .

Your department and the department head would be in the front of the line and then maybe section heads in the front of the other lines . In almost all the organizations I worked in at Golden Air Productions there were hundreds of people in Golden Air Productions and all of the divisions I was in were at least 25 to 60 people in that division .

So it was many , many lines of people and if you were low on the total pole you could be at the way back side of the muster . So the , the , the , the lines of people might be 20 or 30 deep in each line .

So if you were , like you know , just a worker bee , you'd just be at the back of the line , no one could see you you don't , no one knows and you could be fucking around back there . You could be talking to somebody while the whole , while the muster is taking place .

It's a very formal thing where you're at attention and you're supposed to be listening , and if you're way in the back sometimes you know nonsense could be got up to there anyway , chinese .

So what they would do at the muster and this was normally a lunch and a dinner muster thing , sometimes we would do it at morning musters If some sort of strategic direction was issued by David Miscavige , he would write this whole big program and plan and everything , and as part of that one of the steps would be for the crew of any certain organization to have

to Chinese school a certain thing all the time at every single muster .

And in Golden Air Productions L Ron Hubbard actually suggested in an advice that Golden Air Productions should Chinese school the definition of a team at musters and so for , I would say , for at least 10 of the 15 years I was there , we , at almost every single muster we would Chinese school the definition of a team by L Ron Hubbard , and it was this whole

issue . It was like I want to say maybe 10 or 15 paragraphs and we had to do the entire thing . And we had to . What you do is they have some people that hold up this giant sheet of of paper , like a roll of paper , and someone has written in giant letters this L Ron Hubbard saying and they would say team , the definition of a team .

A team is a group of people that get along and they usually do great . You know whatever it is and it's all written out . And the person in front of the group says team , what is it ? And then you say team , the definition of a team is . And then you read the entire thing .

And if the crew can't read the entire thing without messing it up in perfect unison , then they have to do it again , and then you have to do it again and you basically have to keep doing it until you know it by heart . And then they take the thing down , they take the writing down , and then the person just stands up there and says team , what is it ?

And then the entire crew in unison has to say team . The definition of a team is it's a group of people that work along to a common purpose and they normally get along great . Now the trick is to come up , you know , and you have to read this entire thing and get it perfect . We probably did that with a hundred different things .

That was just the definition of a team . There's tons of different things . That was just the definition of the team . There was tons of other things .

You have to Chinese school , the purpose of golden era productions , the valuable final product of golden era productions , all these different things , knowledge reports , policy letter about you know Joe pins , joe pinprick , right , you get , it's a whole policy letter and you have to do that whole thing . Anyway , that's Chinese school . That's supposed to take .

Heard this ? That's supposed to take five minutes . It's never really that fast . Okay , then , from 1.30 to 5.15 is production . Now , in this unit these guys are driving around Los Angeles picking up packages for golden air productions in the desert . So their time to do that is from one 15 to five , 15 .

Now , of course , if you're going out to Alhambra or Monrovia to pick up some speakers and there's traffic , you might not make it back in time for this . So these guys are a little loosey goosey , but this was their general laid out schedule . Okay , then from five , 15 to six o'clock they have dinner . Now that's a 45 minute dinner .

Okay , now I don't mind saying that these guys seem like they might be slackers . Okay , cause 45 minute meals , that's wild . The golden Era Productions

, we were rocking 30 minute meal breaks , um , and we were even rocking 15 minute lunch and 15 minute deal , uh , dinner breaks for a while , but it never . I mean , we would have a half hour and you know when we'd get 45 minutes . I think on Thanksgiving we would get 45 minutes , cause you can't be eating all that Thanksgiving in 30 .

You got to get an extra 15 minutes to chow down on stuffing . But yeah , that's a lot , 45 minutes . I don't know what you're going to do with all that time . Okay , now you've got from six to 605 , another muster .

So this is the third muster of the day for these guys in LA and they live and work in mostly all the same places and every one of these musters , everybody gets rounded up and gets counted . Oh , and when you go to the muster , the division heads , I didn't tell this . And when you go to the muster , the division heads , I didn't tell this .

So the the , there there's a , the DER INR , which is the director of inspection reports . He's like the chief of police for that C organization and he has under him these , they're called MAAs , master at arms , and they're like the police , they're like the police officers and he's the chief of police .

The police , uh , they're like the police officers and he's the chief of police anyway . And the maas , um , are , are there , they're trying to keep track of everybody and and they're the ones that find out if somebody escaped or whatever they got to track them down .

But the durian r says , uh , you know , attention , and then everybody , you know , stands up straight and faces forward and then , um , they say , um , what do they say ? Somebody , help me out here , seer members ?

Um , I think they say division one and then division , the head of the division one says president , are accounted for and , depending on what's going on at the time , there might not be able to have any accounted for us . But , like in division one , they have the switchboard operator , the person who answers the phones , so that person's always on the phone .

They don't go to musters . There's certain people , like the security guards , at the booth they're watching and opening the gates and they're being the security guards , they're not coming to muster . So division one , say , might say president accounted for , and then the commanding officer or the DURINR says who's accounted for ?

And they go one on reception , three on watch , three secured from watch . So the night shift that's sleeping is secured from watch , so they would be sleeping . So you might say three on watch , three secured from watch , one on reception and one on a project , or you know somebody , you know tracking somebody down .

They'll just say somebody's on a project or they're , they're , they're out or whatever . They'll use some kind of coded wordage and then they just go through . Division two accounted for present . Division three present , division for present or accounted for .

And they'll just go through and then , depending on if what's going on with the muster , they might ask for those people that are accounted for . Okay , then muster . Okay , then letter writing . Okay , and that's from 625 . 6 0 , 5 . This is really tiny , by the way . I should make my screen bigger . Why am I doing this ? Why am I there ? You go , just okay .

6 0 , 5 to 6 30 . So 25 minutes of letter writing . Okay , we're going deep , we're going inside baseball , I'm trying not to . But golden era productions Another thing that L Ron Hubbard wrote about golden era productions , and if you're a staff member in any Scientology organization or if you were , you'll know this there's a thing called the Org Gold Officer .

Oh , somebody's texting me . Did I mess something up ? No , it's a joke , man .

So L Ron Hubbard wrote that every single staff member in golden era productions , every Sea Org member in golden Era Productions , every CEO member in Golden Era Productions , should be writing to somebody in a Scientology organization about using the products of Golden Era Productions the tapes , the lectures , the CDs , dvds , vhs , laser discs , whatever it was that we

were sending these guys at the time and so you would have to write . I did this for many years , I think . I think I had New Haven , connecticut and someplace in Ohio .

Each person in Golden Arrow Productions had to write to a person in one of these organizations and if you , if you were a SeaWorld member at Golden Arrow Productions , you were just assigned an organization . So I had Ohio for a long time , and then I think I got another one and I just had to write to these people . I didn't know any of them .

I would just write to them and you had to write um , if you wrote 10 letters this week , you got to write 11 letters next week and then , if you then , 12 letters and 13 layers and so on . So you're just writing these people the most Monday like , hey Bill , I never heard back from you on that last .

Uh , how many course uh packs you sold that had lectures with it ? Please write me . That's it . You would just crank out about 10 or 15 of those . And whoever , whoever in golden air productions , whoever's division wrote the most amount of these things were called OGO letters , org gold officer . Whoever's division wrote the most OGO letters , he would get donuts .

And Claire and I were laughing because when we were doing that severance episode , they have this thing what is it called the waffle party ? We had the donut party . We actually did have a donut party . This is not . This is not a joke .

We would have staff meeting and then they would announce okay , and also it's a totally rigged game because , like some divisions have 12 people , like the sales division has 12 people and they're actually the ones that are in charge of the org gold officer program , which I didn't even realize until I just said it , but they have , um , they have 12 people .

Well , the estates division has a hundred people . There's there's hundreds of people in this division , or a lot maybe , maybe 70 or 80 .

At times it was giant and at times it got smaller , but regardless , those guys would almost always win and they're animals , are big construction guys and HVAC guys and the grounds crew and the electricians and all these guys and they would literally be the , the , the Ogo , uh , the Ogo officer .

That was her , that was her post , this lady , her name was Marge and she wore these like um alien antennas and she would , would get up and staff and go . Ok , the winners this week are the Estates and they won every single week for like five years and they would give , they would .

There would be tables and tables of dozens of donuts and they would literally descend on them like thumb for sharks . Just obliterate these donuts , anyway . So that's what this letter writing nonsense is about . Okay , and then production

. So now , from 630 to 945 is production , and so that's another period where you're just working . Now I don't know what these guys in LA are going to do from 730 to 945 . They probably have to fill out paperwork and stuff like that . That's probably what they do , because everything's closed .

But at the base we were making CDs and DVDs and VHSs and cassettes and , um , we were making things where I worked , um , so that's what we would do during that time . We just make more stuff , okay . So now it's 9.45 to 10 . Oh , no , no , no , it's 11.45 . Sorry , guys , 6.30 to 11.45 is production , and then 11.45 to 2400 is cleaning stations .

So there's no maids . In Scientology , if you work in treasury , the people that clean treasury are the people that work in treasury . And so for 15 minutes every day , you're supposed to do cleaning stations . Basically wipe your desk down , take out the garbage , do the shredding . Oh , that's another thing .

In Scientology , you're not allowed to throw any paperwork in the garbage . Everything has to be shredded . Scientology you're not allowed to throw any paperwork in the garbage . Everything has to be shredded . If there's words on it , you have to shred it . And so you have to do shredding during that time as well , and then at midnight you secure .

That's just a normal day , okay . Now if at Golden Air Productions , if we're supposed to make 50 000 , we stand tall . You know that video where david miscavige is wearing that her maze . I'm not going to say the word , but he's just wearing a sweater that might not a masculine man might not be wearing . Um , he's wearing a sweater and he's singing .

We stand tall . Okay , we made cassettes of that scientology music single and we had to produce like 50 000000 of these things and if they've got to get done , they got to get done tonight .

And if it's time to secure , which means go to bed , and we've only got 10,000 , and we're supposed to be up to 30,000 , well , we best be getting to making 10,000 of those tonight . So by tomorrow we're on target with whatever we're supposed to make that Anyway . So you , 10,000 of those tonight .

So by tomorrow we're on target with whatever we're supposed to make that anyway . So you would just stay up all night . You would just , instead of getting on the bus or instead of walking back to your birthing , you just go back to work until somebody says you can go home .

Now , in a lot of areas in golden air productions , if the boss or the head of the division is staying up to work on a certain area , it's just expected that anyone who's in that area stays there until they leave .

So if the place where I worked for many years was the manufacturing division and I was in the AV production division , which is the ones that made the tapes and the CDs and the VHSs and all that . But the people that made the e-meters were in the same division . That was called the HEM department and we were the AV department .

And then there was the systems department .

And if the HEM guys , the Hubbard Electrometer Manufacturing Department , if they stayed , if the div head , the head of manufacturing , the manufacturing der , stayed up to get all these meters fixed or made or whatever , then it would just be a given that everybody who worked in the meter department would be there until it was a huge flap and the manufacturing division

was going to be in the shits because of the meter guys . The systems guys and the AV guys would also stay up all night and work in the meter department to get whatever they needed done .

And so you had to be a jack of all trades because you could be doing your job during the day , but then you have to be doing somebody else's job all through the night and then go back to doing your job during the day .

Anyway , so you're basically from 9 in the morning that's when you turn on and you turn off at midnight and so from midnight to 9 , that's where you have going to wherever . Wherever your , your bed or your birthing is it's called in the Sea Org , wherever your birthing was .

Sometimes that could be a bus 15 minute bus ride , sometimes that could be a 10 minute walk , sometimes it could be a three minute walk , depending on where you worked and where you lived in a Sea Org base and then should shower and shave and then bed and then back up in the morning and do it all over again .

Yeah , I did that for 15 years and I would say at the Golden Air Productions property . You would usually do the minimum of one all-nighter a week . Depending on what division or department you were in .

You could count on one all-nighter a week and there might be some periods where you few months where you go with all night with no all-nighters , and then you could go into some periods where there might be four or five all-nighters a week and so , and usually that on Sunday or Saturday , depending on where your Sea Org base is , you basically have the morning to

do what's called the clean ship program or basically your laundry and clean your room where you live , your birthing and that's where you might wash your bedding , vacuum dust everything down , clean you live , your birthing , and that's where you might wash your bedding , you know . Vacuum dust everything down , clean the toilet , clean the sink , whatever .

And then , and you had three hours to do all of that , and at every Sea Org base that I ever went to , that three hours was just extra sleep . You would somehow you would throw your laundry and when you got home you'd get up at the last possible second and you'd shake something off and put it on , and you would .

That three hours was sleep , no matter where you went or trying to get up , the nonsense that you weren't supposed to get up to . You'd have to get up because you basically had three hours where really nobody was keeping track of you , and so that's . Usually people chose to do that .

And also in a lot of Sea Org bases you would have a staff meeting on Friday night . I don't know if they have a staff meeting . We'll have to look and see if that's included in here somewhere . I think it's at the bottom .

Anyway , there's also a staff meeting which usually will happen on a Thursday or a Friday night , depending on what organization you're in , but usually it's Friday .

And then um , and that after staff meeting on Friday it would basically be party , because you don't have to go to post on Saturday Cause you're going to do this renovations thing on Saturday , which we'll get to that in a second . What , how am I doing on time here ? I'm doing perfect , thank you , I'm good , just ask me , I'll tell you .

Anyway , so you do , you take off on Friday night , and then you might . If you were really going , just a wild and crazy kind of guy , you might order a Domino's pizza and watch a movie .

If you could swing it on a Friday night , because you could stay up to like three or four , cause the next day you're going to be doing block , wall or stone , veneer or mixing concrete or electrical or you know , plumbing or underground sewage , nothing important that's going to need like sleep or brain power .

And so you , you party on Friday night , and then you come into reno's hungover , and not hungover from drinking , but just hungover from more , not sleep , and then you do that all day long .

And then you , you go home , you're supposed to shower and shave and get cleaned up for what's called source night , and on Saturday you have to listen to , like a LRH lecture , the whole entire crew , they all go in there and they just sit in the seats . And I listened to an LRH lecture and it usually is good , depending on how long the lecture it is .

It's usually an hour to two hours an LRH lecture and um , and it's him giving a lecture to people in the 1950s or 60s or whatever , and it's it's long and it's also completely boring . Nonce a bunch of nonsense , gobbledygook and also prime opportunity to get some more sleep in . But if you're caught sleeping at source night you usually get in trouble .

So you gotta have like a really good way to . I was telling Claire one time I had a really good .

I would put my hands on my knees and I would go like this , like I was listening , but really my hand was just propping up my face and my fingers were just poking in my eyes so they could be closed and I'd get I could get a good 45 minute cat nap in at source night . Anyway

, a lot of fun , okay . So now let's see . Saturday breakfast , muster , renos , hygiene time . Everything's the same , renos , okay . So , renos , like I said , saturday Renos , you could literally be doing anything . On Saturday , renos , I did electrical concrete , mixing , block , block , wall stone , veneer , plumbing , hvac , engine repair and grounds .

Those are all the things that I did over the 15 years I was . I I could arguably get a job at any doing any one of those things and I would just I'd be a no , it'd be a no-brainer for me . Um , because I did it every saturday for nine months and then and the next thing , for three years and then the next thing for two years and then .

So you get to be a jack of all trades . If you're uh , sometimes there's people that are just kind of worker bees . They usually get thrown on the grounds like de-weeding or just doing something that it's like whatever , if you do it , you do it , if you don't , you don't . We can't count on you to do anything .

But if you were passionate about a certain trade , or if you in a previous , before joining the Sea Org , if you worked in a trade , usually that was what you did Like . If you were an electrician by trade before you joined the c-org , most likely you'd just be an electrician in the c-org .

And if you weren't , if you were also a really good audio engineer , then you'd be an audio engineer during the week and then on reno's you would 100 be an electrician . Um , so that was that . That's also very usually what all the trades I did were usually very physical .

So you would mixing concrete and doing stone , veneer and stonework and block wall or MCUs , masonry , concrete units . Um , that's heavy work . Um . So , yeah , okay . Uh , renos , renos , renos , renos , renos , renos . Okay , for this reason for this place , they Renos , renos , renos .

Okay , for this reason for this place , they , I guess in the afternoon they go back to production , so they would only do like a morning Renos in Los Angeles . Oh , and here's where the CSP is . So it says eight o'clock to nine 30 . Is that right ? Am I like am ? Am I spacing it on military time , or is that 2,200 ?

Yeah , that's eight o'clock , right , eight to 930 . I don't know , I think I'm losing my mind here . An hour and a half for org CSP , sorry . So org CSP . So that's basically just like a really long cleaning stations at the org . So on Saturday night , that's true , oh my God , org CSP . So that's basically just like a really long cleaning stations at the org .

So on Saturday night , that's true , oh my God , org CSP . So org CSP at the base was a nightmare , because there was an organization called the Commodores Messenger Organization and there's one that's international .

And then there's a Commodores messenger organization that's solely assigned to Golden Air Productions , called CMO Gold , and these CMO Gold cats , most of them young teenage females , would be coming in with white gloves on and they would just rub the tops of doorways and shelves that haven't seen the sun since 1982 .

And they're just wiping these white gloves , and if the glove's not white're just wiping these white gloves , and if the gloves not white , then you got to keep . You got to keep going , and then they have like 20 different areas to inspect so you have to wait for them to come back around .

You could be there until three o'clock in the morning waiting to get your white glove inspection approved . Um , so that was just a general Saturday night . Uh fun , uh kind of just like wheel of fortune . You know , depending on who's inspecting and what's going on this week , we might be up till 3 , or we might just be here an extra half hour .

Okay , now they have from 9.30 . Oh , from 9.30 to midnight , personal CSP . So that's hardcore . So they figured out a really good way to game the system . In LA they basically just had personal CSP on Saturday night . This is LA Sea Org members thinking here Because Saturday night . In LA that's a party all day long .

So they made their free time when they're supposed to be doing their laundry on saturday night . Yeah , see , we didn't have that at the end base . They made it on sunday morning when everything's closed . Um , okay , then staff meaning here , it is staff meaning it says product conference .

Oh , yeah , so every c org member has to have a product conference every day . Product conference for all execs and branch heads . Daily Saturday product conference is at whatever that is 8 o'clock , yeah , 8 to 8.30 and then 6 o'clock , I don't know . Anyway , they're having product conferences every day . You want to talk about micromanaging ?

The C organization is managed by the hour at the staff level and then you literally are micromanaging every day and every week , and that's the longest period you really manage by is a week .

So if you made 85 widgets last week , you've got to make 86 widgets this week , and so on and so forth for the rest of the time , until you crash and start all over again . Holy moly . Yeah , I'm just going to do some questions on Claire . Were you two married at this time that Mark is talking about ? Yeah , we were married from 1992 and until now .

Yeah , right , don't mind , I'm good , just ask me , I'll tell you . Um , yeah , that's a long time . Um , okay , let's go to the comments . Um , there's a lot of , there's just a lot of nonsense , guys , that's all I can say . Um , that is uh . Oh , there you go . Um , um , that is uh . Oh , there you go . Um , if I'm .

I don't know , I haven't done the math on it lately , but I think that schedule , if you just do that schedule , it's between a hundred and 120 hours a week . Basically , that's the bare bones schedule . A hundred hours a week . If you're making 45 bucks an hour , um , that's basically about 50 cents an hour , I think .

When I calculated my pay divided by hours it was 36 cents an hour is what I was taking home . I made considerably more than that this last week and in the past few years , but 36 cents an hour is what a Sea Org member today is probably making . Right now it's about $0.36 an hour .

It is common knowledge that Sea Org members make less than most prisoners in most countries Like there are . I was watching a documentary on a prison in some foreign country . These guys are making four bucks a day . That might be more , and they're also getting Saturday and Sunday off . I mean , what the hell ? They're in prison .

They're making the same amount as the senior members and for a while , I think , what's considered Chinese slave labor by today's standards ? The people that work in factories and there's inhumane conditions and all of these things . They make more than Sea Org members and they get more time off . Think about that . That's wild .

That's a wild thing that Chinese slave laborers make more money and get more time off than present day SeaWorld members . Somebody can fact check the hell out of that if you want . But that was the case a few years ago when I was researching it . Okay , for real , we're going to do comments now . When I was researching it .

Okay , for real , we're going to do comments now . Eliza , your detail about the insanity of this organization is the best way to illustrate the destructiveness of this cult . Thank you for your integrity and stamina for continuing to speak out Well . Thank you , eliza S . I appreciate that .

You know , like I was saying earlier at the top of the show , this is one of the most widely requested um things on the channel is what are these guys doing and what are they up to ? So I figured we can do it . I know we've we've covered this kind of stuff before , but I've never really gone through the schedule and just talked about this .

Um , apostate , alex , in the house , the U ? S government spends more money per meal than the seahawk . Oh , yes , this is another thing at the ant base and we thank you , apostate alex . Um , we've talked about this . The budget allocation for seahawk food for seahawk members at the gold base was a dollar per day per crew member .

Okay , now , we weren't having the best of food , we weren't having the worst of food , but it was the cheapest of food , that's for sure . And there were many times where the crew got food poisoning , poisoning in mass . That happened , I think , at least three or four times that I can remember .

Um , when I was at the property , there was a taco incident which was very infamous . I think that was like a nine . That got like a 99% take rate on people that ate it . Like there was not a . There were lines and lines at the , at the restrooms , for hours . Question Zinu White . Question .

I understand you adapt to the time , but people's bodies eventually just give out . What are the weirdest places where you or someone else has found someone sleeping ? Oh

my God , this is such a great question , zinu White , yes , you do wear out and you do fall asleep . I've heard of people falling asleep standing up vacuuming . I've heard of people crawling into a closet and then closing the door behind them and going to sleep .

The best one ever was this kid named Trevor who was in New York and I think I talk about this in my book Claire can pipe in if it is or isn't . She edited a lot of stuff out of the book when it had to make a certain page number and I know I wrote the story but I don't know if it's in the book .

This kid named Trevor went missing while we were having to do the audiovisual systems in New York and he just went to sleep behind a curtain in the theater and a New York organization , the one right near Times Square . He just literally crawled behind a curtain and went to sleep and he slept there for like 19 hours .

They thought he had blown and they sent people out to go look for him in Times Square and he just like popped out behind the closet like 18 hours . It's like hey man , what's going on ? And people were like are like , oh , dude , people are looking for you , they think you blew , and be like well , I only slept for a few . No , it's tuesday anyway .

Yeah , uh , we covered that . Um , okay , good from a poet com , I worked a lot . I'll comment I worked a lot when I was serving in the us navy , but but we got paid really well , got fed well and had plenty of time off .

Yeah , a lot of times the Sea Organization is compared to the Navy because L Ron Hubbard , he liked doing Navy stuff and so , like the orders of the day and the way things are organized and the communication systems , a lot of it is loosely based off of Hubbard's experience in the military and so a lot of people can compare it to that .

But every person I talk to who's in the military is like oh yeah , the Sea Org is like boot camp that just never ends , where they're just constantly breaking you down . Excuse me , but the pay is just not good and the time off is not good and also you're not really doing anything of value or productive productivity . Um , rorschach , 2 1 , 1 , 2 .

Finally able to catch a live stream . By the way , I have that same shirt . Well , okay , awesome . This is , uh , untuck it this episode sponsored by untuck it ? It's not sponsored . I bought this thing full price . Um . Thank you , rorschach , that's very generous of you . Um question did claire have to do all that you had to do ? No , claire was in a .

Totally thank you for that , love , maddie . Claire was in a totally different um division when she was in golden air production . She was in the qualifications division and she was a supervisor , a course supervisor , so she would just supervise students that were studying LR and Hubbard courses .

Um , and then she was also um , like when somebody was is was doing a course and it didn't go go well or it was going bad , she was a person that would review why it was going bad .

And then she was promoted to the Religious Technology Center and then she didn't do anything that I did and for a while she did a very similar function in Religious Technology Center where she in the in the qualifications department of religious technology center and then she became what was called the dirt and internal exec , rtc , which was just the executive that was

in charge of the internal divisions of rtc , like treasury and the executive division and the you know , the divisions that were within , within RTC , that were not outward or external facing Okay , okay , good , good , did that ? Oh going , claire .

Claire Headley on Scientology Best hack ever Go into an auditing room and put in the in session sign , turn light off , sleep on four full off . Yes , this is a very well-known fact that auditing rooms because it's a Hubbard policy that you're not allowed to disturb an auditing session . It's what's called a high crime .

Somebody going Claire can correct me on this , but if you disturb a Scientology auditing session , I think you can be declared a suppressive person . It's that kind of level of you cannot do it . So if you want to take a really good nap , just go into an auditing room , put in session on the door , that's it . No one's going to bang on that door .

You could be in there for days and somebody wouldn't do anything . Um , thank you for that , claire . Oh , dalton , my favorite Mark saying that might , might be . Uh , I'm good , just ask me , I'll tell you . Okay , melanie Johnson question Did you ever look at the schedule and think this is nuts ? Um , I lived it .

Of course , I was always thinking it was nuts . Yeah , it was . I'm just telling you , when you get to that point , your body it , just it .

Oh , my goodness , dr X , this work schedule is a rigid system designed for you to fail , which is a form of mind control to make you feel worthless when you fail to meet expectations , designed for you to fail , which is a form of mind control to make you feel worthless when you fail to meet expectations . No kidding , thank you for that , dr X .

Yeah , so this is also . I didn't even really get into this . What time is it ? Oh , we got , we got seven more minutes . Okay , I'm going to tell this one last thing and then we'll get to the giveaways . Okay , remember how I said you're doing your work and then on Saturdays you got to do somebody else's work . You got to do the renovations .

Well , during the week also . Like when I was saying if your department was tanking and you needed to help from your other departments in your division , then they would come in and bail you out . Well , sometimes that happened with whole divisions in regards to the organization .

So if there was a something that needed to get done like if david miscavige said I want the entire property re-sodded by monday and it's friday night , okay , if the entire property to be re-sodded would take hundreds and hundreds of people all doing sod all day , all all Friday night , prepping it , ripping up the old dirt all Saturday , hosing everything down all

Saturday , putting new sod down and then all Sunday putting new sod down to have it all done and tucked and fluffed and tucked and ready for Monday morning with David Miscavige . So if something like that happened , everybody would come off of their posts and just do that .

And that is something that could happen maybe once or twice a week or maybe once a month , depending on what was happening . And if David Miscavige was there at the property when he was there , he would be walking around and inspecting and going into people's areas and inevitably would order this has to get done or that has to get done or this .

So whenever he was there , it was basically a chaos machine , the of just wherever he went there would be a just a path of destruction and most likely you'd end up doing something on that area , or you'd hear about it , or there'd be this kind of flap , or this person would go to the rpf or everybody would get assigned a lower condition or you name it .

It could happen from him walking into somebody's area and doing an inspection or doing something . Okay , xenuite , just listening to you read that schedule is making me exhausted . Yeah , the funny thing is is now I mean this last few weeks I've been doing a project here in Colorado and I'm getting up at 6 , 630 , and I'm getting home at 6 or 630 .

And it's a lot for me , but I mean kind of like , not really because I have so many years where I'm just accustomed to just working Like if something is a problem and you have to stay an extra two hours , it's , it's , it's four o'clock , you have to be around six o'clock . Whoopie do I was .

I used to work in a place where something could happen at midnight and you'd have to stay until the next morning and it was just like you got to do it . There's not , it is what it is anyway . Yes , it's a lot , okay . One last one katherine olson said we had ofos org flag officer .

Yeah , so if you were in management in los angeles then l ron hubbard wrote that those guys should be writing to the organizations . I tell you , these scientology organizations have all these random people writing to them all week . They don't have time to even read the letters , much less respond to the letters . Katherine can say .

Um , if they were getting lots of answers , I literally think I might have written 2,000 letters to these people in Ohio . I think they wrote me back like five times . It was just a statistic . You've got to write this many letters and you just send them out . You don't even care if they answer .

If they answer , it's actually a pain in the ass , because now you have to be like , oh my God , when this I wrote this , I wrote this nine months ago . Okay , so it's totally not relevant anymore . And they just answered and you're just like you literally would write a letter saying dear Jim , thanks for answering . Did you find out about the blah , blah , blah ?

And then just send another letter . Okay , let's go to this giveaway thing . Let's see what's going on here . Thank you guys for all the comments I'm doing . I'm literally I'm , I'm , I'm home alone on this thing . I'm . Let's see what I got . Oh , look at that , I already got it . 42 people have entered in to win .

I thought we'd have less than that , but okay , there you go . That's good . Let's see what the live is saying . Again , if you want to get in here , the key word is all-nighters . The secret word is all-nighters , and Christian B says you're still awesome . I absolutely need to catch up on this channel . Jealous of the beard growing ability .

Yeah , I can grow a beard , no problems . This is like two weeks , right , something like that , maybe two months All-nighters . Yeah , there's a bunch more people coming in there . Yeah , if you want to win , just type in all-nighters and yeah , you could win a free gift from the BFG merch store . Okay , I'm going to do the draw here , pushing the button .

I think , hmm , there , it is Okay . Ooh , look at Clara , claire , oh , and Shannon . Ooh , I almost won . Ooh , robert almost won and I won . I knew there would be a day when I would win . You know what I deserve that . You know I really do With all the stuff I give away . I think I'm going to get what should I get ?

I think I'll get a Zinu as my homeboy sweater . Of course I'm going to redraw you maniacs . Okay , hold on a second . Jesus Christ , somebody said rigged , I'm drunk . I just I made . I only commented one time . I said to put them . I said to put all nighters in the thing , nikki and congratulations . Wow , yeah , look at me . I got to go down here .

Well done , wait , wait , wait . Where is it ? It's moving too fast now . Well done , mark . Congratulations . The system is ScreamYard based . I can't rig it . Congratulations , nikki Ann .

Email Claire at BlownForGoodcom with a link to the item that you would like in the blownforgoodcom merch store and she will send you a code and you just you just order it and they just ship it directly to you . It's a really cool system actually , the and they have a stream here and has a giveaway tool just for it , which is totally not rigged .

And yeah , there you go , not rigged . And yeah , there you go . Let's go back to here , let's go . Oh , there I am . I hope you guys like this . If you want me to do a video on a certain subject , just bleep , bloop it down in the comments . What YouTube does . Now , I didn't know this until recently .

I was doing I was researching something for a project and somehow I got into this article and it basically said that YouTube is going through all your comments on your channel and then they're serving you up what people want you to do a video on , and it's just doing it automatically .

And I just went to this tab and I looked at it and , sure enough , there it was . And they said I kid you not . I said a day in the life of a Scientology CEO , remember , that's what it said , that's what people want to hear about .

So I was like , okay , let's see if this YouTube thing is doing the right thing and supposedly it is because people wanted to know this , and I did go through the comments and they did so . If you want to know about a certain thing , you can search the channel .

We have literally done hundreds and hundreds of hours of videos on the most detailed and mundane aspects of the organization . But , um , if you , if there is something that we have not covered , um , get down there and bleep loop it and , uh , you know , if I get another home alone day like this , maybe I'll do it .

Um and then um , and look , Claire says thanks for joining . She's in the chat . She's somewhere where she doesn't have a camera all set up and everything but um , she's , she'll be back . She also did a video with Tony uh Ortega from , uh , the underground bunker . Um , and and uh , you should check that out .

It's just the last video , um , that just came out this week . I think it was on Friday morning . It came out . It was all about how people get their suppressive person declare order written on them and what Scientology goes through to get it approved and all the things they fill it out . I'm going to do a few more questions because people are writing here .

A few more questions because people are writing here . Joe says Claire was missed , but Mark , you held this down . Well , thank you very much . I appreciate it . Did you do the information full hat ? I don't know about the information full hat , but I did do .

For every post that you do in the Sea Org there's a hat it's called the full hat and it's basically all the writings that L Ron Hubbard ever wrote about that job or anything that anyone who's done that job may have put into something that says this is how to do this job . And for L Ron Hubbard there's courses for all of the organization .

Full hats , there's everything for all of those posts . Golden Arrow Productions is a little tricky because they're very specialized posts , but when I was at Able International I did the treasury .

I was a treasury secretary , I was the vice president of personnel for a few months and I got busted off of that because I couldn't get any new people into the Sea Org except for my sister Bummer .

And then I was the treasury secretary and I slated at that and I did the treasury secretary full hat and then I did the full hat for quality control and all those other things I did all the full hats for too , but I don't know about this information for nonsense . I love rewatching when I'm cooking , cleaning , et cetera .

Well , thank you , love , and I appreciate that . This is great . It all seems to be a lot of busy work without any planning . That's exactly correct . So my job here is done because I explained it , and it is a lot of busy work without any planning . And this guy says it all seems like to be a lot of busy work without any planning . Yeah , pretty much .

If there's a takeaway , there's several thousand let's say three to four thousand Scientology Sea Org members that are just writing each other and they're marketing things on graphs and they're talking to people and every once in a while they get a little money from some people and that's it . It's a big , giant busy work scheme to get people to give them money .

And there's a big thing in Scientology oh , if you want to go on a leave or if you want to take a leave of absence , you got to get it approved and somebody has to cover your job and they cannot lose you . The world is going to end if you are not here doing this job and then when you escape somehow , the world doesn't end .

So , yeah , you could just not do that and do something else , and you'll be a lot happier , most likely so if you are a Sea Org member or if you're Scientology watching this . This is what's going on in there . It's just busy work . They're just wasting money and they're just spending your money and they're not making .

They're not taking any of the money for themselves . It's all going to Miscavige for sushi , snowmobile parties with Tom Cruise , little yachts , little yacht trips with Tommy boy . That's where all the money goes . Okay , necessary trouble says thanks , claire and Catherine , you're a great mods and really do add to the chat .

Yeah , thank you Claire and thank you Catherine and thank you Claire for joining us and yeah , I think that's enough . I think that's all for now . We did have a . We have been doing shorts and we did a whole bunch of Surge shorts and if you haven't seen the story of Surge Obolinski , you can go check that out .

That's the gentleman in the bunch of the shorts that we've been releasing on the channel recently . And Serge has been doing great . We're trying to get him we're still trying to get him some work .

Finding work for Serge has been a uniquely challenging endeavor and you've got to find something that's close to him that he can do without having arms , with just his hooks , and , um , that he wants to do and that he can get . He can . It's worthwhile . You know there's it's a lot of pieces of the puzzle that have to fit to make this happen .

So , um , we think we've got some cool stuff kind of in the works and we'll see how surge likes it and what happens . But , um , that's that okay . Thanks guys , I appreciate it . Let me , um , oh man , I gotta , I gotta , get this comment off before and and we'll see how Serge likes it and what happens . But that's that , okay , thanks guys , I appreciate it .

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