Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Hillo, I'm so excited to speak to Constantina, and of course it's all about AI. He also had a great conversation with Jensen Wango Nvidia. Constantine, thank you for joining us. I know and everyone's talking about AI. Everyone's talking about also this deal between open ai and AMD.
Your first thoughts, well, it's an exciting new partnership. We were with Jensen Huang this morning and the relationship between Nvidia and open Ai goes back a long way. In fact, we were talking about how their very first AI factory, the dgx one, was delivered to open ai back in twenty sixteen to Elon Musk actually at the Sequoia offices. And so it's just a reminder that all of this AI revolution is powered by really impressive hardware.
You're very focused on agenta AI. We're the biggest opportunities and why Agenda AI of.
Course, so agentic AI is AI that doesn't just make a decision, it actually takes an action on it, and we are now in the moment where it's really starting to make a difference in workflows. I give a couple examples. One is actually for a security We're investors in a company called Expo that started off trying to find vulnerabilities in software and now ranks number one in the world on global vulnerability leader boards for finding vulnerabilities and fixing
them for the good guys. Another example, well, we only actually service companies that have shown that it is we're finding vulnerabilities on their own platforms. So it's for companies that have been approved and gone through the vetting and the.
Second and you were saying, yeah, the second way to do so.
Another example is our portfolio company, Harvey, which is actually helping lawyers to actually complete their work faster. They're now at over seven hundred customers and fifty eight countries. But just to make it very real, my sister is a general counsel at a tech company and she texts me a couple of weekends ago and she said, Harvey just saved my Friday night And I said, what do you mean. She said, well, I got a contract from my CEO.
Usually it would take three three and a half hours to turn it over, used Harvey got it done in thirty minutes. And so that's us actually feeling AI and agentic KI finishing workflows in the real world, but it cost t I.
Mean, things are getting competitive, right, So how do you back the right company?
So we always look at the team at the end of the day, especially for early stage investing. We're looking for the founders that are going to endure and persist through ups and downs. We know that AI is going to have its moments of excitement but also moments of difficulty, and we look at the long duration and in long duration we think it's undervalued.
Still, what are the other impacts that actually this could have on the economy? But also, you know there's so much spence. How are you sure that whatever you spent on AI you get the returns in a reasonable time frame.
Sure. So we're here at the Citial Securities conference with a lot of leading investors and they're all talking about what's the return on that AI? And that's what twenty twenty six is going to be all about. How do we actually see that return? And there's a few engines that are going to power that. The first is new monetization strategies. To date, most of the monetization of AI has been subscription revenue, and you pay for a subscription and you get a product. Well, there's a couple more
ways that companies are now monetizing. One is through usage, so the more you use the product, the more you pay, kind of like a real service. The other is actually through e commerce. So last week open ai announced that you can actually complete entire purchases on chat GPT, so you can actually do research for the product you want to buy and buy it through Shopify or ats completely
on the AI platform. That's something we're excited about. We wrote a thesis that this is going to become an important way to do commerce, and we believe that will continue to be. The other one is new modalities, so everybody is used AI for text based modalities. You talk to the AI and it responds to you and text.
We've seen voice hit the mainstream. Voice has gotten so good that with companies like Sierra, which is a portfolio company that does customer support, you can have entire conversations with AI flawlessly, or companies like Listen Labs does market research incredibly well with voice. And then in twenty twenty six we'll see video start to really take center stage. We obviously have seen Sora and Nano Banana and those perform incredibly well. It's just the beginning for them.
Talk to me a little bit about the partnership that you have with Citadel Securities. I mean, this was a large amount of money from Sequoia and Citadell. Is this a blueprint of more of these kind of agreements?
Of course, So we were the first outside investors in Citdel Securities in twenty twenty one. We're proud to have invested a billion dollars in the business and a lot of the reason we invested in the company was the technology platform that they operate on and have built. And this technology platform has changed an entire industry. So if you think back thirty forty years, the way that securities were traded was really in person services. Two people would
find a price and then transact in person. And they, especially Ken, had a vision of the future in which you're going to actually be able to discover that price using algorithms, predictive algorithms, and then actually be able to complete that digitally. And we've actually seen that become the way. The vast majority of equities are now traded digitally, and it's just the beginning. So only eight percent of fixed
income is traded digitally. There's another ninety two percent to go, we see big expanding markets, and frankly, it also reminds us of the AI revolution and the agentic revolution, where it starts off manual and then you get AI to make a prediction and then like an agent, you actually complete it digitally.
I mean, this is basically an industry being disrupted.
Right.
Is there still one industry that we haven't thought about that you're looking at, ah that will be significantly disrupted?
There always is, There always is an industry for disruption, but also for innovation. You know, we want to make people's lives better. I think an industry that could have a lot of innovation that would help everyone is health care. Why do I say that, Well, there's a lot of spend in healthcare. It's incredibly important, and we're not all getting the services that we could. So my wife is a surgeon in health care. She has from her health system hundreds of patients that could come through and get
those procedures. She still spends a lot of time writing notes and actually doing tasks that an AI can help with. In fact, now an AI is helping so her health system. She uses open evidence, which is now used by forty percent of physicians. She uses a Bridge, which does transcription, and that actually helps her complete that busy work faster so she can spend more time with patients. I'm very hopeful that one of the areas that AI helps with is healthcare.
Constantine, thank you so much for your time today. That's Constantine Bluler there from Sequoia.