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Single Best Idea with Tom Keene: Ziad Daoud & Michael Nierenberg

Mar 13, 20264 min
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Tom Keene breaks down the Single Best Idea from the latest edition of Bloomberg Surveillance Radio. 

In this episode, we feature our conversations with Ziad Daoud from Bloomberg Economics and Michael Nierenberg of Rithm Capital. 

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Single best idea after an exhausting week, and just a little backstory here. It's the time and this week alexis story and behind us are without exaggeration, twenty full time people just trying to make it go to get from Nathan Hager, to get to what we're doing, to get

on to Carol and Tim in the afternoon. But around that, I'm not kidding, just one hundred full time people in the Middle East, and I'm probably under that it's probably two hundred as well, all sorts of conversations today on the war, it's economic impact as well ed Morse with Us yesterday from Hartree. Thank you for the response to that. Zaia Dawd is out of the London School of Economics, quite definitive. He was a Kennedy at Harvard and he

holds court is our em economist. A report that went worldwide last night, and how we get to one hundred and sixty five dollars oil briefly the middle of this year and all of it because of a scope and scale of the Straits of muse. Let's listen.

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It is large, and it's large, and it's concentrated. If you think about it what it transports. It transports aill in gas and energy from the Middle East to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world sends almost everything else of the Middle East needs through that strait. So it is a lot of trait that goes there is concentrated in a crucial commodity that is all in gas. And the other thing with the strait of hormones, which is different than the Swiss Canalis, not

just the size is not alternative. So most of the oil that's going from Saudi Arabia, from Iraq, from Vuae goes through hormas. All the energy that goes from Kuwait, Bahrain and Katar goes through hormess. It's a big shock twenty percent of global oil supplies, right. I can't think of a larger ol shock and release into history. This is not the largest than it's one of the largest, for sure.

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There's just absolutely brilliant And you know, I looked up the numbers here. That's what I do with AI and really the only equivalent to Harmuz is the Straits of Malacca down by Malaysia and Singapore and north of Indonesia. I mean other than Malaca and the conduit going up the Pacific Riom to Japan. There's no other scale and size.

I think we're only beginning to really understand the factor, the magnitude scale of Harmus, the Persian, the Arabian golf as well with as Michael Nihrenberg of Rhythm, and of course this would have been the number one topic of the week except a war, and that is private credit and the challenges that are out there. He's with Rhythm.

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Let's listen, listen, there's going to be pockets of private credit that are that are going to you know, right now. Obviously in the news private credit is negative. I don't think all private credit is negative, to be totally honest.

I think there's been some Obviously there's been some headlines with some of the other larger asset managers that have put up gates, and I think a lot of that has to do with what we what we've seen the distribution of private credit into retail, and when you take products that may not be one hundred percent suited for retail, and retail wants their money out because equity markets have

turned over and folks are looking for liquidity. It creates a little bit of what we'll call us a so called run on the bank.

Speaker 2

Michael Nirenberg there with the rhythm today in private credit special things, as well to Hugh vonsteinas of Oliver Wyman, Oliver Wyman Vice Chair, Oliver Wyman, who was just brilliant there on getting through the weekend of private credit. Both of them fairly optimistic that it would be contained around the retailization of private credit and that a large part

of the industry would continue to move forward. On podcast as we're on Apple, we're on Spotify, on YouTube podcasts, it's single best Ida

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