You're listening to Taking Stock with Pimp Box and Kathleen Hayes on bloom Bird Radio and ever evolving political campaign. That is the story for Donald Trump, opening its first week under new leadership, trying out a number of ways to broaden it support and to begin to close the polling gap with Hillary Clinton. Among the the pivots or evolutions we expect to hear this week from Donald Trump is a policy speech on immigration. How is he going to change that and what kind of impact might he have?
Are very happy to be joined today by Mike Meetza, executive editor for Bloomberg Politics, right here in our world headquarters in New York. Welcome Mike, Thanks for having me. So, uh, Donald Trump, what has happened? We've had the departure of Paul mana Fort, We've got poster Kelly on Conway Bright Barton News co founder Stephen Banion involved now at the at the Helm, and of course there's talk that from the distance from the sidelines, Roger Ales, recently ousted at
Fox News, is also chipping in. What are you guys hearing about what there he's being told and how he's responding. Um, So I think what we're seeing right now. Is is definitely a change in execution for the Trump campaign. The strategy has stayed remarkably consistent. It's just they're they're changing the way they're going about implementing that strategy. And I think it's it's becoming much faster, uh. And that that goes to the point of having a a CEO of
the campaign who ran this new site. So he's really fast, he's really used to these these crazy fast news cycles. UM. And he's being more disciplined when it comes to uh the groups he's targeting. And that definitely comes from Kelly and Conway. Like you said, who's whose roots are in UH polling? And I think she would be able to make the case to AH, to someone who's as obsessed with polls as Donald Trump, that hey, we need to reach out to these other groups in order to have
a chance to win. Mike, does Donald Trump have a pulse on what attracts people for the daily news cycle? Because for example, he went down to Louisiana to those flooded areas before the president, before candidate Hillary Clinton hay to visit. Now, that's that's actually a really good point. He is a fully formed media animal. He consumes media at all points on the clock. He's watching cable news, he's on Twitter. We've seen him tweet in the middle of the night. We've seen him, you know, tweet in
the middle of his work day. Um, he knows what's going on, and he's he he looks, he looks to a lot of different media out let's to figure out what he's going to do next. I think you could look at his convention speech He's even which was very news driven as opposed to traditional convention speeches which would focus on kind of like broader themes, more eternal themes
for America. Well before we started this discussion, in the last couple of minutes, Mike, you were pointing out that, uh, people very close to Donald Trump have very recent immigrants in their families, um, notably Italian immigrants. Right, So he's so close to an issue that many people feel he has that he's anti immigrant. Right. First things he said about looking very closely at the Muslims who are being allowed into this country, no matter where they're from, etcetera.
What's it gonna say this week? Yeah, I know, it's a really interesting point. And I think, um, I think if you look at a lot of Trump's rhetoric and rhetoric that comes from the campaign. They're they're definitely suspicious of people who are either immigrants or the um the sons and daughters of immigrants, and that comprises you know, a huge uh you know that the huge share of the American voting public. There are a lot of people who are the sons and daughters of immigrants. Um So.
At the same time, it's very popular with his base, and he he won the primaries because he was able to outflank his his many many Republican opponents when it came to immigration. Um so. I think that that drove him this far, and I think at this point he's looking for a way to kind of soften it a little bit because one, uh one, it's definitely turned off
a lot of voters. In two, if he did win the White House, it would be very hard to implement something as drastic as a deportation of millions and millions of illegal immigrants. I wonder if you could just cast your vision to the future and the debates that will be held with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Are the expectations for Donald Trump so low in terms of policy points and facts and figures and those kinds of details that he made likely surprised people during the debate. It's
it's entirely possible. This is this is definitely an expectations game. But I think if you kind of start to think about how that expectations game is played, I think you're right one that uh, that Trump uh is not known to be the kind of details driven debater or that
Hillary Clinton was. But also we're not seeing the kind of rhetoric that we saw in past campaigns where uh, you know what, when Romney was preparing to debate Barack Obama, it was often said, you know, Barack Obama is one of the best debaters in the United States history, and of course it's going to be hard for Romney to compete. And then he was able to really shock everybody with that first debate and uh and uh leave it leave it very much a mystery until election day who was
gonna win. Um. At the same time, I do a few things that you could count on. One is that there Trump will drive enormous interest in this uh, in this debate. You know, if he he loves ratings, he loves building up to one big climactic moment that will decide things. I think if if you're a campaign like his, who who's behind in the polls, who loves television, who thinks they haven't advantaged, they would they would definitely be driving towards one big moment like this. Mike knitz En,
thank you very much, Executive Editor, Bloomberg Politics. He can be followed on Twitter at Mike Nitza and I z z A. You're listening to taking Stock. I'm PIM Fox, my co host Kathleen Hayes, and this is Bloomberg