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Bloomberg's Srinivasan on SoftBank Buying ARM Holdings (Audio)

Jul 18, 20168 min
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(Bloomberg) -- Taking Stock with Kathleen Hays and Pimm Fox. GUEST: Anand Srinivasan, Senior Semiconductor and Hardware Analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence, on SoftBank Group agreeing to buy ARM Holdings for 24.3 billion pounds ($32 billion).

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gain of two tents of one percent. And crude oil West Texas Intermediate down one percent, falling eighty four cents of barrel eleven. Right now on w T I I'm Charlie Pellett, and that's a Bloomberg Business Flash. This is taking stock with pim Box and Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. Japanese internet and telecommunications conglomerates SoftBank Group. It's buying the UK based designer of the microprocessors that power your smartphone. At least more than of the world smartphones contain arm

holding chips. It is a thirty two billion dollar deal, and the deal well, it's cements SoftBank's new strategy and the Internet of things, at least according to the company. Here to tell us more on En Trinevason, Senior Semiconductor and Hardware analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Of course, Bloomberg Intelligence provides unique real time research and a variety of industries and all of the market and government factors that affect

businesses are terminal. Customers can access this function by just typing b I go on the Bloomberg on and thanks very much for being here. So tell me why is it really about the Internet of things? Why is Marcio Chi San of soft Banks spending thirty two billion for arm Holdings. This gives them an entry into the intellectual property of multiple devices in multiple in markets without the messiness of having to make hardware or having to make chips.

Here you control pure intellectual property, You controller to the source, and you proliferate multiple in markets phones, tablets, auto networking gear, DVR players, and so on, including the Internet of Things, without having to make chips, without having to make hardware. In fact, if you were a chip maker or a hardware maker and had attempted to buy ARM, you would lose a lot of revenue from potentially your peers who

are seeking to license ARM property. So this was a clean um acquisition from slightly outside of the food chain, and it makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense? Does it make a lot of sense? And as much as they spent soft Bank spent what twenty billion dollars three years ago to purchase Sprint, is this going to give Sprint a leg up? The question is does it have a flexibility? Does it leave enough flexibility?

From um SoftBank's perspective, both from our debt and equity side and massasan at the conference called this morning, suggested that Print Frint was a self sustaining entity and that he wouldn't have to put in more money in that direction and with um ARM he potentially gains a free casual producing assets. So potentially he could reap some of the gains here and allows him some flexibility to invest in other places. Although he contended that that was not

his name. What about the actual purchase price thirty two billion? This this wasn't a cheap acquisition by any stretch, but given its edition within the industry, it's one or maybe five clean players who have this kind of a position in the chip business. Um, you knew that the price was going to be high and a premium was certainly going to be extracted, and that is the case here. And you mentioned that this company Arm Holdings, it does

not manufacture microprocessors, It just designs them correct. So what they do is they produce basic building blocks. I think of it from a lego structure. I produce blue, green, yellow, um building blocks, and you can then take that and build whatever structure you want. You can use them as this chances how you may not be able to differentiate your product as much, but then you can make your grand castle in the sky and have it be dramatically

different from your competitors product. And it licenses designs right, the licensing almost the blueprints correct. So one part of their business is you take a license and you build stuff based off of their building blocks. The second part of their revenue, which is a bigger poor the revenue quite frankly comes to to three years later when you actually ship the product and it becomes popular. They take a small piece of the royalties based on the value

of the chip that will sold to you. Do you think that this will inspire other telecoms to go out and try to purchase the same kind of intellectual property company that soft Bank has done. It's a very interesting play. I don't know. There are a whole lot of targets out there. Imagination Technology is the most comparable near term local pier, but again, Imagination is focused on graphics alone, um much smaller for print, much smaller and market focus,

and much smaller function focused. So I don't know if there's a whole lot of plays out there. What does it tell you that soft Bank recently sold it's Ali Baba steak. It also recently sold the stake in the finished mobile game maker. Many investors thought that maybe that money was going to go to paid down debt. Not so. Look, there's there's clearly a change of strategy here from a soft Bank perspective. One of the change of management too

a couple of the last couple of months sure Nication's departure. Uh. The question is this is to some degree this is not We shouldn't think of this as buying a chip entity. This is something that benefits from chip proliferation and the popularity of chip content in a variety of vent devices. So think of it as chip lebble software if you Mane tell us a little bit about the Uh. The creator really of SoftBank Maso's son, because he started out

in the magazine business. Sure. So this is UM. This is I mean Michelle ma is our Japanese um UM telecom UM and listen, she's actually based in Hong Kong. So testament to b eyes reach. And one of the things that UM she has written is that you know, it has a lot of different assets that it tries to monetize and obviously some have worked out a little

bit better than others. So moving these pieces around, both in terms of people, as you mentioned, management changes off late as well as the efficacy of these under laying businesses. So it's cash coming in here is dead coming and there. So they moved a lot of things around, but he He claims to have a long term focus um, but the near term is messy. Will see how the near term plays out. Thank you very much for spending time and explaining all this on True of Austin, senior Semiconductor

and hardware analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence. Shares of ARM holdings up more than forty five percent. This is taking stock. I'm pim Fox and this is Bloomberg coming up on taking stock. Former Secretary of State George Schultz and his new book Blueprint for America. Find out what it is and what he learned as a marine. That's next

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