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We begin with an appeal to the American people from President Biden. As the wars in Israel and Ukraine rage on. The President used a rare primetime address from the Oval Office to make the case that both conflicts represent parallel fights for democracy.
I know these conflicts can seem far away, and snatch will ask why does this matter to America? So let me share with you why making sure Israel and Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security. You know, history has taught us that when terrorists don't pay a price for their terror, when dictators don't pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and death and more destruction. They keep going, and the cost and the threats to America and the world keep rising.
In his roughly fifteen minute speech, President Biden argue that supporting Ukraine and Israel is vital for America's national security. The White House now plans of formal request to Congress for about one hundred billion dollars in resources for both countries, along with Taiwan and the Southern US border.
Well, Nathan.
The President's speech comes as tensions heightened in the Middle East and Bloomberg's Oliver Crook is covering the war from Tel.
Aviv and as fears of escalation and spillover mount. We should also say Hamas has called for a day of rage today across the Islamic world, where last time they called for it we saw protesters take to the street, really raising the temperatures. Also raising the temperatures of the United States, saying that they're seeing more drone attacks and their installations in Iraq and Syria, and that they've also
intercepted fire from Yemen headed towards Israel. There is the small matter of a huge country that sits between Yemen and Israel, It's called Saudi Arabia, with huge geopolitical influence.
And Bloomberg's Oliver Crook says the death toll continues to mount. More than fourteen hundred people in Israel have been killed. The Hamas run Gaza Health Ministry says more than thirty seven hundred Palestinians have also been killed.
Now and Karen will have much more the war ahead. But we now turn our attention back here to the US, where a search for a Speaker of the House is still underway. Round three for Jim Jordan's quest hold the gavel is scheduled for this morning.
In Bloomberg's Edd Baxter has the story.
More twist and turns to even get to this space. Jordan has come off as support of an interim speaker after very heated response from his caucus.
So I'm still running for speaker, and I plan to go to the floor and get the votes and win this race. But I want to go talk with a few of my colleagues, particularly, I want to talk with the twenty individuals voted against me.
Whether that will land him what he needs is a big question as it hangs in the wind and delays action on aid for Israel or Ukraine. Ed Baxter, Bloomberg Radio.
All right, Ed, thank you, We turned to the markets now. Jay Powell signaling the Fed will stand pat at it's November meeting. After speaking at the Economic Club of New York, the fetch here told Bloomberg's David Weston the economy is doing a good job of handling tighter monetary policy.
So the evidence of your eyes is that the economy is handling much higher rates at least for now without difficulties. So notionally, that might tell you that the neutral rate has risen, or it may just tell you that we haven't had rates high enough for long enough. If we have models for everything, we have formulists for everything. Ultimately, as a practitioner, we have to focused on what the economy is telling us, even taking legs into account, what's it telling us?
Does it feel like policy is too tight right now? I would have to say no.
I think the evidence is not that a policy is too tight right now.
And the Fed chief also said a recent run up and long term treasury yields, if they persist, could lessen the need for further hikes at the margin. For the full conversation with FED chair J Powell, head over to our Bloomberg Talks podcast feed, available anywhere you get your podcasts.
Well, Karen, there was plenty of reaction to Powell's remarks.
Yields on two your treasuries declined tenure yields paired an increase that pushed them near the five percent mark. Former New York Fed President Bill Dudley says Powell was pretty out the mystic about the economy.
Basically, you got the impression that he's pretty comfortable with the level of rates and the fact that the economy is a little stronger than expected, well that's a you know, that's a nice problem to have. And the fact that boniles are a little higher, well that's actually maybe going to help deal with the fact that.
Growth is a little bit stronger than expected.
He also implied that he expected growth to slow in the fourth quarter going into next year. So yeah, I think the Fed's on hold until they see whether the economy is slow as much as they anticipate or not.
Former New York Fed President Bill Dudley is now a Bloomberg opinion columnist.
Well, many on Wall Street think rate hikes are over Nathan. In fact, in our latest Bloomberg Monthly survey, economists think the Fed is done raising rates, but they also anticipate a slower pace of rate cuts next year. The economists are also raising their growth projections and reducing their odds of a recession.
There's also some optimism on the auto strike. This morning.
Karen, a top union negotiator, says General Motors and the United Auto Workers are moving toward a tentative agreement that would put an end to a major strike that has dragged on for more than a month. GM, along with rivals Ford and Stillantis, have been trying to cut a deal to end a walk out that started September fifteenth. A GM spokesperson declined to comment.
Another corporate news Nathan, more job cuts may be on the way at UBS. The Financial News is reporting the Swiss bank is poised to target about ten percent of its support staff at credit Sueeze. UBS is taking over its longtime Swiss rival and a government orchestrated deal and pairing a combined workforce that swelled to about one hundred and twenty thousand.
Let's get you updated on the Sam Bankman freed Trialcaren. The third week ended with the testimony of FTX former general counsel can Son, who told the court he resigned after finding a massive hole in ftx's balance sheet. The trial will now take a week long break. It's due to resume October twenty sixth.
Sorry, Nathan.
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It is our assessment that Israel was not responsible for that explosion. We're continuing to assess that. Initial indications are that this was from an errant rocket that was launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jahad.
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Some of my colleagues in the financial field and more broadly have raised some really legitimate concerns about hate speech masquerading as free speech in the context of anti Semitism on college campuses at penn and other places.
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Sports from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias exam the Bloomberg Business app in Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. On day fourteen of war between Israel and Hamas. There are new concerns about a wider conflict, with US bases in Iraq and Syria experiencing attacks at runback groups and Yemen trying to fire missiles
at Israel. All as President Biden defense continued US support for Israel and Ukraine in a direct appeal to the American people.
I'm awesome food and represent different threats, but they share this in common. They both want to completely annihilate in neighboring democracy.
Completely annihilated, President Biden speaking. They're in a rare Oval office address this morning. We're joined by a team of reporters. Bloomberg's news director for Europe, the Least and Africa, Roslind Matheson is with us, along with Bloomberg's Oliver Crook in Tel Aviv.
Good morning to you both.
I want to start with you Oliver for just to get the latest on what's been happening overnight in the war between Israel and Hamas.
So some of the context we should give for Friday today is another day of rage that has been called by Hamas. So this is sort of protests across the Islamic world, is what they called for last week. We saw this, you know, thousands took to the streets. And it comes as the IDEF continues to strike targets in Gaza, continues to strike targets in Lebanon. It has not sort of escalated dramatically on the border of Lebanon, but there
are still skirmishes there. There are more civilians evacuating from the north, and as you mentioned, the US saying that seeing some of their installations coming under more attack in Iraq and Syria. And also these missiles apparently intercepted by
the US Navy fired from Yemen. And there's a small matter of a big country of huge influence in the region that sits between Yemen and Israel, and that is Saudi Arabia, And that'll push us forward to a summit that we understand will be held tomorrow in Egypt, where again there's a lot of information on the flying around, and according to people familiar that we have that the Crown prints will be at that meeting, along with President Erdawan,
the King of Jordan, and some representative from Western and European countries as well, to discuss peace in Caira.
There has been a real difficulty getting the Arab world more involved in what's happening here to try to keep this conflict contained. Rosalind matheson what's your assessment of how diplomacy is going at this point.
Well, certainly, we do know there's a lot of conversation going on, as Oliver was just pointing out, although how you have a peace summit without Israel is slightly tricky given there at they're a key player in the conflict.
Obviously with Hamas.
We do know that there is an endless parade of officials from Europe and elsewhere into the region. We do know that also the Arab's talking to each other. A very important thing to note this morning is that we're hearing that the leaders of Saudi Arabia and the UAE
are holding a meeting. That's their first public meeting that we know of in three years in real and that's a very significant mood, because that shows perhaps a desire on the part of these key powerbrokers in the region to work together to limit the possibility of contagion from this conflict. We do know that some of these states are under pressure from their own people who angry what
they sees the treatment of people inside Gaza. But equally, the leaders of these countries have been working delicately and carefully towards sort of improving ties with Israel and certainly sort of keeping a greater calm across the region, promoting economic and trade their economies and trade and investment. So they've got an interest in doing that. So that's one meeting that's happening this morning. It's very much when we should pay attention to.
As we await the comments from Arab leaders. Alie, we did hear from President Biden last night from the Oval Office defending continued US support for Israel as well as Ukraine and other global conflict points around the world. How is that message from the President being re in Israel?
I mean, I think it's received positively in Israel. He echoed many of the things that he said when he was here in Tel Aviv just a few days ago. But I think that the tougher cell and the cell that is more important for Israelis is how is this going to go down with the American people? And this is a question that Biden asked openly. Why should the Americans?
Why does this matter to the American people? And this is where he was saying that basically terrorism and dictatorship here talking about Hamas and Putin need to pay the price, otherwise there will be more death, more destruction, and it is in the national security interests of the United States. And he does this appeal to the people of the United States because he's going to ask for a lot
of money. We understand sixty billion dollars of that is for Ukraine and fourteen billion is for Israeli defense, but also another ten for humanitarian efforts, including Gaza. And again he warned Israel in this speech, as he's done repeatedly, evoking nine to eleven, saying the US sought revenge, they got justice, but they should not be blinded by rage because they made mistakes.
What is the risk that this spills over more widely.
Well, that really depends on a ground war if or when it starts. It certainly seems that is Israel's intent still to go into Gaza and what that looks like. We do know that there's been some discussion, including from the US, about perhaps helping frame that. Would it be a more targeted incursion than a full scale war and a lot will depend on that, quite frankly, but also the unknowns of Iran and does Iran just say we
can't sit by, We need to do something. The risk has to be high, and that's why you're seeing that level of diplomacy in the region to try and avert it.
Rosalind Matheson and Oliver Crook of Bloomberg News team coverage as the war between Israel and Hamas extends Intoday fourteen, Olie Roz, thanks to you both for being with us this morning. Now we want to turn from geopolitics to the US economy. We did hear from Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell at the Economic Club of New York giving a speech followed by a conversation with bloom David Weston.
Let's go to part of that discussion.
Now, are you surprised at how resilient the United States economiation across the board. It seems like a very strong economy despite all you've done to try to slow it down.
Yes, so we certainly have a very resilient economy on our hands. We've got the economy growing strongly. If you think back a year, many forecasts called for the US economy economy to be in recession this year.
Not only has that.
Not happened, growth is now running for this year above its longer run trend. So that's been a surprise, driven largely by consumer spending, driven by a very strong job market with people getting jobs with high first time nominal wages, and that as inflation has come down real wages, which is spurring spending. And we've also had inflation coming down, so you know that's it really is a story of
much stronger demand. There may also be there may be some ways in which the economy is less affected by interest rates. It's hard to know precisely, but for example, companies, many companies, any company with bond market access will have termed out its debt right and therefore may not be
feeling the effects of higher rates. The same may be true of homeowners who have a long term, fixed rate, low rate mortgage, who then are therefore not because it's not an adjustable rate or a higher rate, they're not feeling that increase in rates, so the economy may be somewhat less susceptible to the effects.
Of rate increases.
On the other hand, if you look at look at interra sensitive spending, these are very much the places where we see where we expect to see and do see effects. So for example, in housing or in you know, the housing effector has been sector.
Has been very affected by higher rates, as purchases of durable goods.
If you look at surveys, people will not say that it's a good time to buy a car or a house.
Quite the contrary.
So we see policy working through its usual channels. It may just be that rates haven't been high enough for long enough. And again it's all happening in the context of a very strong demand.
We've had other speculators.
Maybe the terming out of debt, as you say, both corporate debt and hustle debt, may diminish the effectiveness of rate hikes. Do you have a view of whether that's true, And if it is true, what does it say about mantre plus. Does it mean you have to go farther in the rate hikes or do you just not have the power to affect it.
So no, I don't think that there's a fundamental shift in the way that interest rates affect the economy. There may be some differences in this cycle because of what I mentioned. As I mentioned, we are seeing those are the effects where we expect to see them, which is interrasensitive spending, and also asset prices to some extent in the exchange rate, which you're also seeing a strong exchange rate, which is disinflationary. So I don't think there's a fundamental
change in the way monetary policy affects the economy. And again it goes back to just very strong demand. We take the economy as it is, We take fiscal power and the economy and all the things we don't control, they come to us, and we conduct policy always to achieve maximum employment and stable prices. So we just take what comes the fact that we have a strong, growing economy, a strong growing labor market, and you know, inflation coming down. These are the elements that we want to see that
to achieve the outcome we want. It may take more time, but ultimately those that's this is the kind of thing you would want to see along the path to getting through this without a big increase in unemployment?
How much effect thus far has the FED had. We all have memorized how long and variable legs? How long and how variable? And where are you in that process? Are you at the twenty five percent point the fifercent in terms of seeing it in the effect in the real economy.
So there's there's no precision in our understanding of how long legs are.
One thing that has changed in the modern era is that markets now, over the course of the last thirty years, central banks have decided, instead of being secretive, to be very transparent. And what that has meant is that markets move actually well in anticipation, well before our policy moves. So the transmission from policy moves to financial conditions actually happens before the moves now, whereas that was not the case fifty years ago when Milton Friedman coined the phrase
along and variable legs. But now you have financial conditions changing and the questions how does it affect the economy? The standard channels are asset prices and such intersensitive spending in the exchange rate, for example. And again we do see that happening, just not as fast as we would like. And I would attribute some of that to just stronger demand. Household savings were turned out to be higher. Household spending has been stronger, and that's by far.
The largest part of the economy.
In order to conduct monetary policy effectively, do you need at least hypothesis about how much already hit the economy, because it's hard to know how much more you need to do if you don't know how far you've come.
So on legs, I think if you think back, it's been a year now since the last seventy five basis point hike we did. It was the November meeting in twenty twenty two. The first one was in June, so it's more than a year, so we should be seeing the effects. By the way, they don't all just arrive on one day. They arrive and then they're thought to
peak and then to diminish. So there's a lot of uncertainty around lags, and one of the reasons why we have slowed down significantly this year is to give monetary policy time to work. The truth is, though you can find academic support for different different speeds and duration of lags, so we have to use our eyes and a little bit of risk management. In patients in slowing down the pace to make sure that we are seeing the full effects. And I think again that's part of why we've slowed
down this year. We went very quickly in twenty twenty two to catch up to where we need to be, and now we're moving carefully with these decisions.
So when you spoke back in August of twenty twenty and sort of laid out the revisions to the framework as it were, you said that in terms of anticipated growth, the sort of consensus have gone from something like two point five to one point eight percent. I think we're the numbers you laid out of that.
Where are you now? Where's the FED? Where are you?
And what you think? Basically?
The long run growth is.
Long run potential growth is not something that moves around a lot over time. But I would my own guess is it's around two percent. I think that the standard mainstream view would be a little bit below two percent, but I would just say two percent real growth over time. And you know what causes growth is you know, growth in hours worked plus growth in productivity.
Growth in hours worked is.
A function of population growth in the long run and also labor force participation. Many things affect productivity but if you if you drop in reasonable standard longer term estimates of hours work growth and productivity, which is just out put per hour productivity growth, you get something around two percent, and that's higher than most other advanced economies.
As you look at it, do you see historical precedents for having growing economy with high rates over a long period of time, I mean as you look back, I mean like the late nineties, for example. What analogies do you draw as you try to determine what this might be doing at the economy with a longer term.
So that's really a question about what the level of rates will be going for what the neutral level will be, And I think it's very hard to know confidently what the answer to that will be in five years. Some of the reasons why rates were low for the last twenty five years were just the aging of the global population and globalization, and so lots of savings and relatively with an aging population, savings greater than investment, so rates are lower and productivity was low. So all of those
led to low interest rates. So what has changed with the pandemic. You might see less effect from globalization, certainly demographics that the aging of the global population is not changed. I mean, this is a discussion we're having on an ongoing basis. It doesn't really affect current policy. But where will rates settle out? What will be at a normal rate?
So if a typical FED tightening cycle would leave you at five or six percent, and this is in the before the pandemic and before this the low inflation period, you would have had had FED rates in four or five percent or even higher. Frequently are we going back to that?
I really don't know.
I wouldn't want to speculate. I mean, my guess is it'll be somewhere in the middle.
But I don't know.
I mean, I think we can say this now, the effective lower bound is not an issue.
You know, we were very concerned about that.
Right now we're very far from the effective lower bound and the economy's handling it just fine. But that's you know, that's because we're at a time of really elevated demand coming out of the pandemic. As we reopened with fiscal stimulus and monetary stimulus. We have very strong deman in the United States. Hard to know what the economy will want in the way of interest rates when when five years from now, in all of the effects of the pandemic are behind us.
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