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Global Market Selloff Intensifies; Buffett Trims Apple Stake

Aug 05, 202417 min
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On today's podcast:

1) Nasdaq Futures Sink as Global Stock Rout Deepens

2) Treasuries Surge as Traders Bet on Emergency Fed Rate Cut

3) Berkshire Cuts Apple Stake by Almost Half in Selling Spree 

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Speaker 1

Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 1

I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today.

Speaker 3

Karen, let's get more on this global market route. We are joined by Bloomberg's Kritty, Goopta and Kritty. We saw a historic sell off in Asia overnight.

Speaker 4

We certainly did, and the selloff is one of historic proportions. The topics down twelve percent, the Nike also down another twelve percent. But it's not just Japan. You're also seeing the stock really spread off. Stock self spread off in the chip sector across Asia. COSPI, the KAUSDAK, basically the South Korean indexes that have that major Samsung havevyweight, both

down somewhere between eight and nine percent. You even have the KOSAK in particular, which is of course at the South Korean version of the Nasdaq, basically down a whopping eleven percent. That's just in the equity space, Nathan, you also have a similar story over in the currency space, where dollar yen now at a one forty two handle, really shaking things up in the effect space.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we're seeing this sell off spread into Europe where you are, though it doesn't look quite as bad there, Critty.

Speaker 4

It doesn't, but it is still read on the screen in line with the moves that you are seeing globally. About a two percent decline in the eurostocks fifty. The Footy one hundred is your underperformer as well, down about two point two percent. Ironically, France isn't selling off as much. It's only down one point eight percent. But the reason for that is simply that these markets aren't as deep as the ones in Asia. They're not as liquid as the ones in the States either.

Speaker 1

All right, Creatie goopto will be checking in with you all morning. Thank you. Treasuries do continue to rally this morning. Bets increasing there will be an emergency FED rate cut. In fact, traders now see roughly sixty percent chance of an emergency quarter point cut within one week. JP Morgan and Citigroup are revamping their forecast to predict a half point cut in the US in September. It all follows Friday's weaker than expected JOMPS report and believes that the

Fed is too slow to support a slowing economy. Former Offen economist Claudia sum to a Bloomberg Radio that data triggers her famous recession indicator.

Speaker 5

This summ rule way too much momentum in the unemployment rate in recent months, I mean four point three percent. So whether we are at that moment of a recession or not, this is your build into substantial weakening in the labor market.

Speaker 1

Claudia sam with some consulting, made the comments Friday on Bloomberg Surveillance right after the job's report, And.

Speaker 3

Karen, as you mentioned, we're seeing Nasdaq futures plunge now nearly four percent this morning. Several big names are in the red. Let's get the latest from Bloomberg's Lisa Matteo.

Speaker 6

Lisa, good morning. Yeah, we're seeing the tech sell off extending. We have Nvidia down more than eight percent. We have Microsoft metap plunging more than four percent, Alphabet down more than four percent, Amazon falling more than two percent. We have in Tesla taking a hit, down more than five percent. But this comes after the Naszac entered into that technical correction on Friday, and this was amid that drawback from

the overheated artificial intelligence rally. Now that gate page actually touched a record high less than a month ago, but it's not just AI. Investors also concerned about over elevated valuations on the impact of also the presidential election on geopolitical tensions in New York. Lisa Mateo, Bloomberg Radio.

Speaker 1

Right, Lisa, thank you. Apple shares they're down about eight percent over the weekend. Berkshire Hathaway revealed it's still nearly half of its position in Apple during the second quarter, and we get more from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner.

Speaker 7

The move could be interpreted as a lack of conviction in the Apple growth story. At the end of March, Berkshire's position was worth roughly one hundred and forty billion dollars. Then, as of the end of June, it was worth eighty four billion. Since twenty sixteen, when Berkshire first has closed its stake, Apple shares have sored nearly nine hundred percent. Even with the sale, Apple does remain Berkshire's largest single position.

If you're wondering about valuation, Apple's multiple is thirty three times future profits. That's eleven points higher than the s and P five hundred our Cime, Derek Prisoner, Bloomberg Radio.

Speaker 3

Thanks Doug. Tech stocks aren't the only assets selling off this morning. We're also watching cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin is down nearly eleven percent, adding to a thirteen point one percent drop last week, the worst then since the period when the FTX exchange imploded. US exchange traded funds for bitcoin suffer their largest outflows in about three months last Friday.

Speaker 1

Well, Nathan, we'll have much more on the market selloff in five minutes when we speak with RBC Capital Markets Head of US equity Strategy, Lori Calvesina. But now we want to get the latest on the Middle East tensions there maybe piling on to negative market sentiment. Israel is racing for possible attacks from Iran and regional militias after the high profile assassinations of Hamas and hes Beila leaders

last week. Prime Minister Benjamin Ettnyah, who says his country is in a quote multi front war against Iran's Axis of Evil. But the White House is urging NETANYAHUO to redouble ceasefire negotiations with Hamas, even as the US moves in a fighter jets Squander and keeps an aircraft carrier in the area. Here's Deputy National Security Advisor Jonathan Finer.

Speaker 8

What we're trying to do is prepare for any eventuality, any possibility that's only responsible for the United States. Obviously, we've been quite clear that we'll work with our ally, Israel, to defend itself against any threats that it faces, and we are in a moment that appears to be of heightened threat.

Speaker 1

White House Deputy National Security Advisor John Finer made those comments on CBS's Face the Nation heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio.

Speaker 3

Think Karen Well, the White House focuses on geopolitical tensions. Vice President Kamala Harris is reportedly focusing on the final stretch of choosing a running mate in her presidential campaign. We get that story from Bloomberg's Ed Baxter.

Speaker 9

Three people on our shortlist met with her over the weekend. Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, and Minnesota Governor Tim Walls. Kentucky Governor Andy Basher, Transportation Secretary Pete Buddhachic, and Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker also names that are still

being floated now. The Democratic Party is planning a virtually nominated ticket by August seventh, and Harris has said the shop plans day at the campaign trail weather running mate tomorrow, Ed Baxter Bloomberg Radio.

Speaker 10

All right, ed, thanks.

Speaker 1

Time now for a look at some of the other stories making news in New York and around the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker.

Speaker 11

John, Good Morning, Good morning, Karen. Debbie strengthened into a hurricane. Has the system neared landflow in Florida's Big Bend region, where residents have fled ahead of a potential week long disaster across the South. Bloomberg mediorologist Rob Carolyn is tracking the storm now.

Speaker 10

The very big concern with Debbie is as it moves inlet over in North Florida over the next day or so, the steering currents are going to collapse, and that means there's going to be nothing pushing the storm along, So it's just going to conder meander over portions of southeastern Georgia, maybe eventually off the coast of southeastern South Carolina. This means some very heavy localized rain are going to fall over North Florida, Eastern Georgia, and South Carolina.

Speaker 11

Through the first part of the workweek, top wins intensified to eighty miles per hour, making Debbie a Category one. System Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has revoked a plea agreement reached last week with the accused mastermind of the September eleventh terror attacks and two alleged accomplices. That story this morning from Bloomberg's Denise Penegreni Secretary.

Speaker 12

Austin has now assumed direct oversight of the case and canceled the plea agreement with Khaleage Sheik Mohammed and his lodged accomplices for the attacks that killed nearly three thousand people in New York City, at the Pentagon and in a Pennsylvania field. This effectively reinstates it as a death penalty case. Austin also relieved the senior Defense Department official

responsible for oversight of this case. His decision brought relief to some family members of victims who had expressed anger over the deal, but it also left uncertain the next steps of the prosecution. Denise Pelgrinny Bloomberg Radio, and.

Speaker 11

After ten days in theaters, Deadpool and Wolverine ready the highest grossing R rated movie ever. In a second weekend, the Marvel Studios Blockboster, starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, continued to steamroll through movie theaters collecting ninety seven million dollars according to Studio estimates. Global News twenty four hours a day and whatever you wanted with Bloomberg News Now. I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Nathan and Karen.

Speaker 1

John, thank you time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour.

Speaker 7

John, Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 13

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Speaker 13

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Speaker 3

This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The global stock route that began last week is intensifying this morning, growing concerns about a weakening economy and a FED that may have been too late to act to stop it. To get some perspective on this market reaction, we are joined now by Lori Calvacina, head of US Equity Strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Luri, good morning. It is very tough to find some green on the screen this morning.

Is it a pivot point for the market or our investors reacting?

Speaker 15

Hi, Nathan, Well, thanks for having me. Look. I think there was a lot of confusion on Friday with the jobs report. I think we also had some negative data points from ism last week, and to be honest, it really stands in contrast on both those reports with the tone we've been hearing from companies throughout this reporting season. So I think that there is a lot of sorting

out to do right here. I do think that one of the reasons we've seen such a big reaction in markets has been sort of the sharp detour that we've seen. But I do think we need a little bit more information at this point as.

Speaker 3

That sorting out period continues. Lorie, We're seeing markets already pricing in something like sixty percent odds that the Fed's going to cut rates this week. I mean, how would stocks react if the Fed essentially makes up for last week's lost time.

Speaker 15

So I think that we always have to ask about the reason that these sorts of things happen. I remember, this is market pricing, this is an official action. We did sort of look at this phenomenon last year during the Regional Banking CIS, and what we found was that really you have to be careful what you wish for, you know, in this kind of regards. And I know there's been a lot of talk about, you know, sort

of fifty basis point cuts that have come out. We did actually publish something on that this morning, looking at when we've seen fifty basis point cuts in just recent decades, and it's tended to be associated with periods like the GFC, periods like COVID. You know, at the moment, that doesn't seem to be the sort of environment that we are in. So again, I think we need to wait and see

what we're going to get from the FED. But if you look at the history, the fifty basis point cuts, you know, just in recent decades have been associated with sort of major periods of distress and markets. You can go back farther and look at the nineties and earlier to find other examples where that was not the case. But I do think that's the kind of playbook a live investors have in their heads.

Speaker 3

So while we wait for the FED, and while we wait for further data, do you see this route going further or could this be a by opportunity.

Speaker 15

I think we're going to have to watch the data this week that comes in. But what I will tell you is that we came into the third quarter thinking that we were at risk of a pullback. Now, we did not have sudden concerns about a recession on our BINGO card. But the reality is that if you look at the CFTC data, and we looked at US equity

futures positioning, this is something we track every week. If you look at where we've been throughout most of this year, frankly, it's been on US equity future positioning broadly, and S and P five hundred future positioning in particular above the January twenty eighteen highs and above the February twenty twenty highs, and so we had, you know, obviously a tough year in twenty eighteen, but we did have you know, sort of a milder draw down on the low ball and

wined early that year twenty twenty. Obviously we all know what happened there. But from a positioning perspective, whether you're looking S and P naddak futures positioning as well, has looked extremely extended and we have looked vulnerable to bad news from that perspective.

Speaker 3

You know, I think this is just maybe the last time or two we spoke, you had cautiously raised your S and P five hundred price target for the end of this year. Now that we've seen this pretty significant dive this morning and the potential for more. Are you rethinking that?

Speaker 15

So what we had baked into our outlook was the idea that we would see a five to ten percent type draw down, and that's a garden variety type drawdown. But if you go beyond ten percent, what the history tends to tell us is that it's associated with a pretty intense growth scare. So obviously those risks have risen

in here. We don't know that it's certain we're going to get that time of twenty percent draw down, but if you look at those periods, especially in recent history, we've seen those kinds of draw downs fifteen percent back in twenty ten, twenty percent, and twenty eleven. Obviously, if you go back to the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen growth scare, I think we fell about fourteen percent. So those are the kinds of periods. We have not baked in that kind of scenario into our modeling.

Speaker 3

As of now, about thirty seconds left, Laurie, what's it going to take to bring confidence back into this market?

Speaker 15

So I think let's watch the sentiment positioning indicators. Remember AAII has also looked stretch. When we get down to the one standard deviation mark below the long term average that has typically, you know, in recent years, given us a buy signal. Also, watch valuations. They've been very extended for the broad market. They've been very extended for the top ten megacat names. Let's watch what happens when those

numbers get back down to average. We can often see markets try to make a stand around those kinds of levels and the source of environment.

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