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This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Monday, February twenty seventh in Hong Kong, Sunday February twenty sixth in New York, and coming up today. Asian stocks may suffer after that hotter than forecast inflation data. Here in the US, the biggest chipmaking countries meet to ensure a steady supply chain, and China's Renaissance says it's missing chairman has been assisting

Chinese investigators. Our report, the US Energy Department has moderate confidence that COVID started at a lab misshapp in China, Macao eas's mask restrictions. US continues to put pressure on shijimping not to provide weapons to Russia. Imed Baxter with Global News. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, the business news you need to start your day in just one fifteen minute podcast available on Apples, Spotify, the

Bloomberg Business app and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Dog Prisoner. Here are the stories we're following today. After a hotter than expected PC report in the United States, FED officials came out and flagged the risk of sticky inflation. Cleveland FED chief Lorettamesters said policymakers need to do a little more to ensure

inflation is moving back down. Her Boston counterparts Susan Collins said that the FED has to keep raising rates to get them to a sufficiently restrictive level, and Saint Louis FED President Jim Bullard also urged the Fed to move quickly on interest rates re establish credibility. Now sometimes I use the phrase more game theory, less econometrics. Is what you really want is the establishment of the credibility of the two percent inflation target. There's a certain amount of

demonstration to markets if you move quickly. In a new study, Wall Street economists and academics argue that the Fed will need to inflict some economic pain to get pass under control. The study included a series of simulations to predict likely paths for the benchmark policy rates. Now, a few moments ago, Doug mentioned five point four percent that was being predicted as the terminal rate. Computer models is suggesting from this study.

We just mentioned that rates would peak ay the five point six percent, six percent, or even six and a half percent in the second half of this year. Meantime, we also heard from a Bloomberg opinion columnist to Mohammad el Aryan, who is saying financial markets are starting to doubt whether the FED can bring inflation down to that two percent target. He says, inflation indicators are heading very

simply in the wrong direction. There's a lot of things going on the supply side that would argue for a slightly high inflation target. Now, of course, the FED cannot change its inflation target after missing it for so long, so they have a real problem there. I think the best we can hope for, honestly, is stable inflation through the four Now. El Aryan went on to say that if the FED continues to pursue it's two percent inflation target,

fremendous pain will be inflicted on the American economy. Ran In some other matters, we're getting word that the so called Fab four Chip Group has held its first senior officials meeting to talk about semiconductor global supply. Bloomberg's Denise

Pellegrini's tracking developments. The February sixteenth video meeting of the Alliance of the US, Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea focused on supply chain resilience, and sources say the group, also called the Chip Four, talked about an early warning system to ensure study supply, but did not talk about export controls.

Taiwan and South Korea agreed to focus on manufacturing, Japan on materials, the US on its role as a major market, and the Biden administration has been trying to get global partners to agree to curb sales on advanced chip equipment to China so China can't challenge US dominance globally so easily. And Taiwan is home to the world's largest contract chipmaker, and President Seinwen has pledged in the past to make sure partners have ample supply of what she is called

democracy chips. Denise Pellegrin Bloomberg day Break in India, the G twenty meetings have wrapped up with no consensus agreement. We have more from Bloomberg's Van Men. The world's top finance chis failed to agree on a final statement. That's because Russia and China disagree with two paragraphs on the Ukraine War that happened clear by all other members. German Finance Minister Christian Leonards said a shift in attitude by

China was very regrettable. There was also some disagreement on debt restructuring and obligations by various kinds of creditors, but on most other topics participants seem to be aligned. Leaders called fighting inflation a top priority. In Hong Kong. I'm Ivan Man Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, China Renaissance says it's missing chairman Bao Fan, has been assisting in an unspecified Chinese investigation.

We get more from Bloomberg's David Englaze. China Renaissance says it has learned that Bao is cooperating in the probe, but in a statement, the firm suggests that it has not been in touch with Bao and does not know where he actually is. The well known executive disappeared earlier this month, unnerving China's business elite. Bao has been the go to financier for some of the country's biggest companies, and his disappearances race speculation of increased scrutiny for the

nation's finance industry. Several big lenders have requested more information. They include BOCOM, China, Citic Bank, and China Merchants Bank. In Hong Kong, I'm David Ingless bloom Brick, Day Break Asia, and again I'm Brian Curtis along with Doug Krisner. Doug, when the data changes, investors can be expected to change, and we've seen that happening with the tough commentary from the Fed in the inflation data. I would say, the data.

You can say that maybe the data is more important than the Fed, which you have to admit all along has been vigilant. Well, the Fed has been vigilant, I would say, but there was a gap between what the market was in pricing in in terms of a view on inflation and what the FED thought. There was a sharp pivot, and Jim Bullard, who was the head of the Saint Louis FED Bank, was saying that yes, maybe the Fed had some room to dial back. So the kind of the inflection point wasn't the issue insomuch as

inflation has really remained stubbornly high. There was a decline, but we remain at elevated levels. And I point that out because when we were talking about the dollar right now, the big question is whether or not the dollar can manage further gains. It may be difficult because what the market is thinking and what the Fed seemed to be thinking are more in alignment right now. Yeah, I think

that's a fair point. I think we do need to say though, it is one month's data that marked a big change January, so we'll see whether that continues when we look at what happens with the data in February and then even after that in March. And also in addition to the inflation data, we've had a lot of other factors that have played into selldown in risk assets, the anniversary of the Ukraine War, the uneven nature of

China's room. We've also seen a big sell off in tech here of late, and then also US China relations, so there's a lot going on here. Well. Speaking of China, the NPC meeting will kick off on Friday, and I think it's fair to say that markets right now are expecting on shore stocks to continue to do better than Hong Kong listed chairs because it is likely that the government's going to roll out some new stimulus. Yeah, we are in full correction mode with the Hanksang Index, which

is interesting around ten percenters. So it's been a rough period here in February. All right, it's time now for global news. The US Energy Department is saying that the COVID pandemics origin was most likely a laboratory league misshapp in China. Let's get to Head Baxter in the nine sixty news room for details. Head. Yeah, that's right, Brian. This is a classified document of the Wall Street Journal reports one of several, but Energy believes that it was

due to a mishap at a biological lab. As you say. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on CNN says this is part of an ongoing investigation. The reference to the Department of Energy. President Biden specifically requested that the National Labs, which are part of the Department of Energy be brought into this assessment because he wants to put every tool at use to be able to figure out what happened here. Yes, Sullivan says, key members of Congress will be involved in

the loop. Now. Macau says, by the way, it is easing its masking policy, citing what it calls a stable COVID nineteen situation of the territory. Starting today, people will not be required to wear masks while outdoors. As China's president Chiesi and paying ready to travel to Moscow, Uscia Director William Burns on CBS has heard here on Bloomberg says there's still the open question about supplying weapons to Russia. Well, we're confident that the Chinese leadership is considering the provision

of lethal equipment. We also don't see that a final decision has been made yet, and we don't see evidence of actual shipments of lethal equipment, and Burns says that is why it is very important that President and Secretary of State blank and keep emphasizing what the consequences would

be if arms did flow that way. Meanwhile, Burne says intelligence is showing Russian President Putin isolating himself with just a handful of advisers, a sense of cockiness in Eubrius, a sense, I think reflecting Putin's own view, his own belief today that he can make time work for him, that he believes he can grind down the Ukrainians, that he can wear down our European allies, that political fatigue will eventually sit in and we'll just keep sending his

military and weaponry to fight. New York City remembering today of the nineteen ninety three terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. More than one thousand people were injured when a van loaded with twelve hundred pounds of explosives was detonated under the North Tower. A tower remained until it was taken down a nine to eleven eight years later.

Governor Kathy hokel at the memorial today, words that I can give will never he'll the scars, the pain, but just know that the memory of your loved one will never ever dissipate. It is something we in New York will always ensure that the memory is never lost. Six people did lose their lives on that day thirty years ago. Global News powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. In

San Francisco, I'm at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Gaberkasia and Brian Curtis along with Rishad Salamat. Our guest is David Chow, global market strategists for the Asia Pacific at Investco. David, we talked about a lot of these uncertain factors all of a sudden, really hitting risk assets. Are you reducing exposure here and if so,

how much? I think that it makes sense that investors are a bit cautious given the higher than an expected inflation print that we've seen and some of the unevenness in China's reopening. And I think this is healthy given you know how well risk as it have perform from the start of the gate this year. And I think that we're having a moment where investors sess out some of the risks and headwinds that the market faces. And I think that this is this is to be expected.

I mean quite in sympitive. It was just a case of getting out of the gates too far, too fast. I think so. I think especially on some of the Chinese reopening play, and I think that play is essentially over now. I think that investors will start to focus more on fundamentals and what rich sectors and industry will will continue to rebound in China for the rest of the year. Well, we mentioned that it was one month's

data really that caused a change in thinking. Once you had that Job's report, and then followed up by the CPI and the PPI data and now the PCE, you've seen a real change in investor behavior. Is it important to move cautiously because that may not follow through in February and March or do you think that that's been the story all along. Well, that's right. One month data

does not make a trend. But how many times have we've heard or we've expected the FED to pivot because of inflation coming down, you know, around the corner, and that certainly hasn't happened, and so I think that investors could be disappointed, especially those that expect that have been expecting a pause or a cut later on this year. I think it's very clear that we're not going to

get that cut at the end of the year. It could be as you know, more like you know, the middle of next year, and so it's just expectations I'm not being met. So, you know, with that thesis as to what you think may will be happening with the FED reserve, how do you position yourself to gain from that? Well, I think that it makes sense for fixed income investors to be positioned on the shore duration short end of

the curve. The market is paying investors to wait a short term, though I think taking on additional duration could provide limited benefits, though it could act as a recessionary head. We talked about all these other factors besides inflation and the FED. It happened that it was the anniversary of the Ukraine War, so that's very much in focus. The reopening in China has been called into question a little, and you have US China tensions, a sell down in tech.

I'm curious about the bow Fund story, and you're thinking on that now that he's said to be cooperating according to the company itself, does that challenge the adage of kill the chicken to scare the monkey. Well, I am a bit surprised that this has been telegraphed so broadly. I was in the mindset that the government is pretty much in the green when it comes to kind of oversight issues, given that the focus has really been prioritized on economic growth this year. So I think we'll really

have to see how this one plays out. But in general, I think that the government has taken a much more market trendly approach towards ensuring that we have growth and that and that I think that we're pretty much out of the regulatory woods for at least for this year. Yeah, we're always a good against some hiccups like this, I suppose ultimately, and that always then remains that there's going to become some sort of a discount for Chinese equities

and If so, what do you think it is. Well, we've seen a historical discount between Chinese equities and the US equities and developed markets, and I think that I think that as China's economy continues to mature and become you know, it's the second largest econoty of the world, and the capital markets also start to mature as well, I think that that historical discount to start too narrow.

But certainly there there are there are significant differences in the political economy between China uh and the developed markets, and I think that that will continue to be an issue that that investors will have to see through or better understand. We had some key earnings last week in this part of the world from Baidu and Ali Baba.

Did you learn anything in there that you didn't know before? Well, I would say that what I cleaned is that the consumption recovery, especially to to e commerce, continues to be very strong. The data, the consumption data coming out of Chinese New Year was very strong um and especially in mobility and also on the purchases. But I would say that the consumption recovery for the rest of the year will will continue, but it will it could be a bit lumpy um, and so we're not going to see

a very strong V shape recovery. We know that Chinese household are sitting on a pile of xss CAT, but we don't expect them to spend that as quickly. I say, how American households did blackhum thousand and twenty one. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on the stories making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify,

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