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Looking for Leslie

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Summary

On a May morning in 2001, Leslie Prier failed to show up for work, prompting her boss, Brett Reedy, to visit her home. There, he and Leslie's husband, Sandy, discovered a violent crime scene with blood everywhere. Leslie's body was later found in an upstairs shower, confirmed as a homicide. The investigation uncovers disturbing details and points to Sandy Prier as a suspect, despite his daughter Lauren's disbelief, launching a complex, long-unsolved mystery.

Episode description

A woman fails to show up to work. When investigators are called to her home, they find a gruesome crime scene.

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Intro / Opening

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Initial Absence and Growing Concern

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May 2nd, 2001 was 25 years ago, but Linda Lyle still remembers what the weather was like that day.

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was a beautiful, beautiful May day. The sun was shining. It was it was just a beautiful day.

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Back then, Linda was working at an advertising company on the edge of Washington, DC. It was a small office, and Linda knew all her colleagues by name, including a woman named Leslie Prier.

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Leslie was a part-time employee. She had been brought in we were desperate for someone to file.

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Leslie helped with the administrative side of the business. She'd been with the company for four years. She was in her late 40s, but looked a lot younger. A classic, Grace Kelly-esque beauty with dark hair and fine features.

F

Oh she was beautiful. She had a a quiet manner. She was dainty to me.

D

But on this particular spring morning in 2001, Leslie was not at work as scheduled. This was a problem from a business perspective. It was Leslie's job to mail invoices. If no invoices went out, no money was coming in.

E

And this was 2001, where the company had a lot of still paperwork, if you will, because we weren't in quite the digital age.

Punctuality Issues and Unanswered Calls

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Brett Reedy was the operations manager in the office. He was also Leslie's boss. Brett had recently had a talk with her about punctuality. Leslie lived nearby, just a few miles away, but she'd been turning up late a lot.

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But it was odd that she wasn't there, uh, only because She was kind of on probation, if you will, um with me. It wasn't a handwritten probation or anything like that. It was just like look you you gotta make it by ten.

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So when ten AM came and went, Brett took notice.

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When she didn't show up at ten fifteen, I just assumed she had a doctor's appointment, or something held her up in the bus, or something like that.

D

Brett Reedy is a pretty even killed guy. But Leslie's absence that day, it clearly got his attention. At ten fifteen, he asked around the office. Did anyone know where Leslie was? Everyone said no. At 10:30, Brett had his secretary call Leslie's house. No answer.

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He said, Darn it, you know, where the hell is Leslie?

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Linda says Brett was annoyed, but he was also concerned. He wondered if Leslie's bus had broken down.

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I know it only takes about twenty twenty-five minutes for her to get to the office. So I said something must a happened.

Sandy Prier's Concerning Reaction

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By eleven fifteen, Brett called Leslie's husband, Sandy Prier.

E

I said, well, you know, I I'm calling you because Leslie's not here and did she have a doctor's appointment I don't know about. And he goes Very quickly and he goes, that's not good.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'm like, well wait a h okay, so this now something's something's really wrong.

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So on that warm Morning, 25 years ago, Brett made the decision to go to Leslie Prieer's home and try to find out why she hadn't shown up. It was a decision that would land Brett in the middle of a gruesome scene and a bewildering mystery.

That would take decades to solve.

K

See? There's blood in the in the um the foyer and looks like something possibly happened

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What happened was a violent secret. For years.

Truth to light. From ABC R.

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And twenty twenty. I'm Stephanie Ramos and this is Blood and Water. Episode 1

for Leslie.

Journey to Chevy Chase Home

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Leslie Prieer and her husband Sandy lived in Chevy Chase, Maryland. It's a prestigious suburb of Washington, D.C., full of picturesque neighborhoods. And it's a place I know well. When I first joined ABC News 11 years ago, I worked out of the DC Bureau, just a few miles away. Chevy Chase is a place that always seemed to radiate calm, quiet respectability, and well.

Even in 2001, the average house in Chevy Chase cost three times the national average. It's in one of the most educated, high-earning counties in the country. So how far are we from where you and Leslie worked at the time?

E

Uh probably at the most two miles.

D

About two miles away from the first time. Last year, I asked Leslie Prier's boss, Brett Brady, to show me the neighborhood where the Priors live. На 60s, Bret drove me, retracing his journey from all those years ago. On that day in 2001, when Leslie didn't show up for work, Brett had driven the long way to her house. Checking side streets and Leslie's bus route. If her bus had broken down, perhaps she'd been stranded by the road.

B

Yeah.

D

This basically this is what it looked like back then.

E

Well, absolutely.

D

Like many other suburbs across the country, Chevy Chase is full of lush green lawns and lots of helpful signs telling you to look out for children playing and neighborhood watch. The Priors lived on Drummond Avenue, where a row of large houses sit behind tall trees. It's an area Brett Reedy knows like the back of his hand.

E

And that's and this is my house where I grew up in.

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This one right here.

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Next one on the right.

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Oh, it's lovely.

E

But this is uh yeah, great neighborhood. I had about uh probably six friends that lived on this street from elementary school. And right here at this intersection, um, I was off on a patrol. Uh for el elementary school right here for this crossing.

D

I remember those days too. I was a patrol. I was a fifth grade patrol. Control Kid.

E

Right. Mine was mine was sixth grade and you had to you had to fold the patrol uh uh belt a certain way.

D

Leslie's daughter, the Prior's only child, had attended that same elementary school. Brett said the reason he went to Leslie's house that day is because he knew the neighborhood so well. Even the street they lived on was familiar. Brett drove me the length of Drummond Avenue to where the cul-de-sac ended.

E

This is where the house would have been so you see it's obviously redone.

D

The Prior's home was knocked down a few years ago, and a different, modern house now sits in its place. Crime scene pictures show that the Prior's house was a colonial style red brick home. Two stories tall with the white columns flanking the front door. In the photos, the house looks perfectly symmetrical. Neat as a pin.

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Carol.

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Brett and I stopped right out front where the Priors' house once stood.

E

And then if I get right here, this is where I would think about Leslie.

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Brett's tour of the neighborhood had ended right where he was 25 years ago, looking up at a perfect house on a perfect street, totally unaware of what was lurking inside.

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No.

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Discovery of a Gruesome Scene

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On the morning of May 2nd, 2001, it was sunny, warm, and approaching 1130 a.m. when Brett Reedy pulled up at the prayer house and walked up to the front door. Brett recognized Leslie's husband when he pulled into the driveway just after him. Sandy Preer was broad-shouldered, with reddish hair and thick glasses. The two men weren't friends, but they'd met before. Sandy worked in an office nearby.

When Brett told Sandy that Leslie hadn't shown up at work, Sandy told his boss he had a family emergency and left immediately to go to the house, arriving moments after Brett.

E

He uh walked up to me and he said, Hey Brett, how you doing? He uh opens the door and he's yelling Leslie, Leslie, Leslie and as soon as I walk in, I look to my right and there's a large pool of blood.

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E

I mean it's a significant amount of blood, maybe about a three foot diameter.

Pool blood.

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Brett later told police that he felt he saw the blood moments before Sandy. When Sandy did notice it, He said, Oh my god. The men were standing in the foyer. From there, they had a view of most of the house. The living room was on their left. The stairs to the second floor were straight ahead, and the dining room was to the right, with a view of the kitchen toward the back of the house.

In the foyer, blood was smeared around the floor, as if someone had tried to wipe it up. It was also spattered on the walls. A small welcome mat, stained with blood, lay in a heap in the living room. A table that usually stood in the entranceway had been knocked over.

E

I noticed a lot of blood on the steps leading upstairs. Splattered blood all over the steps. Oh God. Something something's happened here.

Sandy's Calmness and Clean-up Attempts

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It looked bad, like the aftermath of something violent. Brett didn't want to move. He didn't want to find Leslie, he said, in some kind of compromised position. So he stayed in the foyer while Sandy walked up to the second floor, calling for his wife. Brett looked into the dining room and saw something peculiar. A pool of water on the floor. He bent down to take a closer look.

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And I'm still kind of knelt down. And as I'm knelt down, I noticed something move down the hall.

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It was the door to the basement.

E

And that door was slowly opening. I was like, oh no. You know, this the way it slowly opened, again, I'm thinking, uh-oh, it's it's Leslie. She's probably hurt, and something's happened. But it was not. It was the dog.

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The Prayers Elderly Black Lab, Boomer.

E

A dog had pushed its nose, opened the door, and then started walking towards me. So there was a little bit of that heart palpitation there for a second.

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Sandy went down the basement steps to check things out, but soon came back up. Still no sign of Leslie. Brett started pointing out the blood smears to Sandy. Blood on the floor, blood on the walls, blood on the stairs. Sandy had noticed them, but he kept insisting that there had been an accident, perhaps on the stairs, and that Leslie had been hurt. To Brett, it felt like Sandy hadn't grasped the seriousness of the situation.

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And he goes, She must have fallen. Well, that's you know, my reaction probably was that's a hell of a fall.

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Where Brett found the situation shocking, he says Sandy seemed calm.

E

Sandy did not seem to react to what I was pointing out. It was a little strange. I remember saying to him, look, Sandy, they tried to clean this up. So I think Intuitively, I just somebody hurt somebody and tried to clean it up. Sandy's reaction was she must have fallen down. He kept going that route.

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Sandy later told police he believed Leslie had injured herself at home and a neighbor had taken her to a hospital. He thought she was hurt, but being taken care of. Sandy said that a few minutes after entering the home, he decided to call local emergency rooms to see if Leslie had been brought in. Sandy went into the kitchen, where Sandy opened up the yellow pages on the counter. But they soon noticed the kitchen also showed evidence of Leslie being injured.

E

Blood everywhere. Blood on the appliances. Blood on the back door. Blood A little bit on the table. But what I noticed was the back door was ajar a little bit. It wasn't fully closed. So something I remembered really well. Uh I thought it was odd.

Calling 911 and Police Arrival

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By this time, the men had been in the house for around 15 minutes. From the top floor to the basement, they'd found no sign of Leslie, but plenty of blood. At eleven forty-six AM, Brett called 911.

P

I'm on one which emergency.

K

Uh, we uh I I work for a company and w uh we didn't hear have a call from um an employee. We just walked in the door, her husband and I and there's blood in the in the in the foyer and looks like something possibly happened.

P

Okay.

K

Um

P

You're not in the house.

K

I'm in we're in the house right now. Uh the husband's looking around.

P

You had her ear with the husband?

K

I'm with the husband, yeah.

P

Is there a lot of blood?

K

But it looks like there's possibly uh, you know, um maybe a struggle, a couple of things knocked down.

P

Okay.

E

I said, okay. All right. And I said to Sandy, we we have to get out.

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Brett and Sandy waited in the front yard. It only took 10 minutes for the police to arrive, and by then it was approaching midday.

E

When they showed up

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Thank you.

E

Sandy, uh well, he kind of greeted them. Again a little odd. And they they pulled their guns. And Sandy goes, Whoa, you guys mean business. Like conovena.

S

Thank you. Thank you.

Leslie's Body Discovered, Husband's Disbelief

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The officers asked Sandy if the door was unlocked, and when he said it was, they entered.

E

I'm outside talking to Sandy. I said, You know, could there something You know, anything else that maybe she's you don't know about or, you know, just trying to figure this out. And I d asked him directly, I said, Sandy. You were upstairs awfully quick. Did you check everywhere? And as soon as I said that, puts his hand to his head and he goes, Oh, I forgot to check the bathroom.

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Sandy told Brett that when he had gone upstairs, he'd briefly looked into the doorway of each of the rooms, but hadn't gone all the way in. But Brett didn't have long to dwell on that.

E

I would say uh within a minute. The police came back out. And when they walked out The policeman was wearing gloves. And he was taking'em off and I knew. right then. And he he walked right up to Sandy and said, Sir, your wife is dead.

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Brett says that Sandy seemed completely shocked.

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Disbelief? What? I don't understand. How can that be?

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Leslie Praer's body was found lying in the shower of the upstairs bathroom. Near her head was a large pool of blood. The police report from that day described it as a sudden death, undetermined. An autopsy would be needed to figure out the exact cause of death.

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The first thing I thought of was Lauren, the daughter. This was gonna be tough. The only daughter. And that's all Leslie talked about.

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Lauren's Idyllic Childhood and Devastating Call

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Lauren Prier was 23 years old when she got the news that her mother had died. So talk to me a little bit about your childhood. How's that for you growing up in Maryland with your mom and dad?

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Just wonderful. See, I knew it was gonna cry.

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It's okay. When I sat down with her last year to talk about her mom's death, Lauren was almost exactly the same age her mom had been when she died in her late 40s. She says until that day in 2001, the Prior's family life had been idyllic.

B

We're on Drummond Avenue. It's a beautiful neighborhood. Extremely safe. I never felt scared there. Um, and we just we'd have barbecues and my friends would come over. Like I said, my parents wouldn't my dad would cook. My mom was actually not the best cook, not to be mean, but she wasn't.

D

Well we'll have our strengths.

B

But so we w it was just wonderful. We had a huge backyard and my mom and I would plant tulips in the front of the house and they would grow. So

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Lauren said Leslie was always there when she needed her.

B

When I was very young, I always had sleepover parties for my birthday and I had like eight to ten you know, there was like a bunch of girls. We had all sleeping bags and we sleep downstairs in the living room. It's like a girls' dream. Yeah. But anyways, my mom for some bizarre reason let me rent the exorcist. Actually it was my dad. It wasn't my mom. And so my girls and I all watched the exorcist.

And then after that, I never slept alone. My mom slept in my trundle bed with me. So it was like the pull out thing, you know, so I had my top part and she would sleep with me until I fell asleep. So she always stayed with me and that's A scary but wonderful memory.

D

Lauren said that she and her mom spent a lot of time together. Even after Lauren moved out of the house and into an apartment in nearby Silver Spring. They would take trips to DC to visit the museums. Lauren said her mom especially liked the National Portrait Gallery. Seems like you guys you both had a very good relationship.

B

Oh yeah. My mom and I were best friends. She was everything to me. Everything. I just couldn't believe it.

S

Yeah.

D

On May 2nd, 2001, in the afternoon, Lauren tried to call Leslie.

B

My mom and I talked on the phone every single day. That was our routine.

D

Mm-hmm.

B

I mean seriously, I would call her office and her friend Gail worked there and I called the office. And Gail answered the phone and I was like, Hi Gail, it's Lauren. I was like, Can I talk to my mom? And she was like, Oh, she's not in yet But I was told to tell you that if you called to call your father

S

Thank you.

B

And then I knew something was wrong.

D

Weird. Lauren called Sandy on his cell.

S

Thank you.

B

I said daddy I was like hi I was like where where mama's not at work look what do you what's going on? I was confused and I looked out the window and I saw a police car pull up. And I said something I said, what's going on? And I saw my dad and a police officer get out of the car and I said, oh God, what the hell's happening? My dad is like talk he was just talking but everything was in slow motion.

He's like Lauren, your mom's been in an accident. I think we've seen like a bus accident or was she got in a car like you know, I wasn't thinking the work that. And then he said, She's no longer with us anymore. I was like, what? And so I ran into my bedroom and he screamed, like scream, screamed, like the what you hear on like the horror movies, like deep down in your stomach scream. You know, just weird through I said I don't understand.

Homicide Confirmed, Disturbing Details Emerge

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Sandy told Lauren that Leslie had died in an accident, but investigators didn't actually know what happened. The scene at the Pierre Home was full of details that didn't make sense. No signs of forced entry. Leslie, dead in an upstairs shower. Her blood downstairs. Some of it hastily cleaned up. Lauren said she and her dad were in shock, and when they went home, they weren't allowed in.

B

But I saw her the g the gurney with her body going out. I never saw her dead body. Thank God. I'd be in an institution right now.

D

Until investigators could find answers, they told Sandy he'd have to find somewhere else to stay. He moved in to a nearby hotel, while Leslie's body was moved to the county coroner's office. Three days later, on May 5th, Lauren got news about her mother's autopsy.

B

The detective came to m to my place and said this was not an accident. It's a homicide.

D

Authorities would determine that Leslie Prieer was killed in the foyer of her home. She had been beaten and strangled with multiple blood force trauma injuries. A large V-shaped wound on her head matched the outline of the baseboards near the front door. After her death, investigators believed that her body had been dragged upstairs and put into a scalding shower. The water had been so hot it caused thermal burns. Detectives believed that this was an attempt to clean up the scene.

Shock and fear spread throughout the neighborhood. Leslie had been murdered in her own home, and the killer could still be out there. But something else spread too. Intense curiosity. Soon the police would be inundated with tips from Leslie Pierre's neighbors, coworkers, and friends, all trying to help solve this murder. A murder that seemed from the outset not to make any sense at all.

Detectives didn't believe that this crime committed in one of the safest counties in the country was random. By the time they told Lauren Prier on May 5th that her mother was the victim of a homicide, They already had a number one suspect in mind.

B

And the scary part was is that they tried to put it on my father. I said, no. I'm like, my dad loved my mom, loved, adored her.

D

But under question, Santi showed that there were secrets in the prayer house, arguments between husband and wife that had been getting worse.

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Just bam, bam, bam, just keep coming at you, just keep coming at you. And it was it's it was uh It wasn't fun.

D

This was not an open and shut case. The investigation was riddled with Unexpected revelations and dead ends that would prevent justice from coming for a very long time.

G

It makes you paranoid in a way to think that there's somebody that could commit this brutal crime and then just be free.

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In your eyes it's guilty until proven innocent.

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Honey, your DNA was in the crime scene.

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Blood and Water is a production of ABC Audio and 2020, hosted by me, Stephanie Ramos, produced by Madeline Wood. Shane McKeon and Chiara Powell. With help from Emily Schutz and Caitlin Schiffer. Edited by Gianna Palmer. Our supervising producer is Suzy Lou. Music and Mixing by Ebon Viola. Scoring by Chiara Powell. Special thanks to Katie Den Daws, Janice Johnston, Sean Dooley, Chris Donovan, Camille Peterson, Christina Corbin, Gail Deutsch, Amanda Carr, Ellie Joe.

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