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Nostalgia

Aug 13, 202330 min
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T and Matthew discuss nostagia and it's current place in popular culture.

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Hello, you're here with T and Matthew and we are the bing Zing Zoom Podcast. Can you dig it? I know, I know you've been waiting to hear that for a while. So we're back with some new stuff. So what's going on, Matthew? How you been good? I got covid for a little while, so that was interesting. After they officially announced that the pandemic was over, then I get it. Yeah, it's the best time. It's the best exactly. So that so that caught me up for

a little while. But but we're back ready to to put out some more information for you guys and catch you up on what's been going on in the universe, sir. So, I just wanted to state that you basically you had to let other people test it out first. You know, you don't want to You don't want to buy things before you have enough data, you know what I'm saying. You want to get it beforehand. So, speaking of getting things, so I got the the aw video game right. People

are really torn on this. In the lead up to the game the game's release, people were saying, you know that they were unsure of whether it could live up to the standard that WWF no Mercy. It's set and that is what people like Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks who are instrumental in helping bring the game to fruition. They kept referring to No Mercy. Their gamers themselves there, you know, wrestlers, top tier wrestlers. They actually were

the groundbreakers for AW. For those of you who don't know what AW is, it's all elite wrestling. There are only two major wrestling companies in the United States right now, and that is, of course WWE and now AW. So AW is already jumped into the video game market. Of course, they're not trying to compete with WWE in terms of creating a simulation of wrestling. There's their goal was more so fun, right, and No Mercy is considered by many to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest wrestling

game ever made. Now, with that said, I was asked my opinion on the AW video game, and so here it is. The AW video game is exactly what it was supposed to be, which is fun. If you were looking for simulation, you're looking in the wrong place. If you were looking for a knocked down, drag out type of video game, then you're looking in the right place. If you're looking for, uh, you know, a super in depth story mode, you know that's it's not the right place. So all in all, it is a fun game and just

that it's a fun game to play. You know, anybody could pick it up and just start playing. You don't have to be a big time gamer or you know that that that wrestling games to be able to pick it up and have fun graphics. If No Mercy was updated a few steps right, some people's issue and comment on it was that the graphics looked as though they

were GameCube graphics. Keep it in mind, this is the very first video game under aw SO and you know whatever the budget that a W had at the time, as well as the goal to make it a fun game and not necessarily a simulation, you know, those things lead into it. So the character bills are a little bit a little cartoonish, but not too much.

And it's interesting to me too, because when we're talking about graphics, right, like, we went through this whole thing where it's like, graphics have to be better, they have to be better, they have to be better. Ps four, ps five, you know whatever. But now with the reinvention of mobile games, right, we have games that look like they're sixteen bit or eight bit games that are popular now. You know, so graphics aren't the end all be all the way they used to be. So

does this game look a little bit cartoony? Yes? Will that turn off some people maybe, but I think the mass, the majority of audiences will probably be pretty adapted take that on. Yeah. Absolutely. And so my final take on this one, having played you know, many wrestling games throughout my life, aw fun. I gave it a seven and a half. It's out of ten very good, try, very good, try super fun. And you know, when when I first got the game, it uh, you know, it's fun to play, but it let me wonder a

little bit more. But now that I know that they're gonna keep adding on to the game, They're gonna keep adding things to the game via updates. You know, they have these like games that have nothing to do with wrestling in them. There's many games in there where you're in like a baseball field and a whole bunch of stuff that's on the way, and there's thirty people all in the baseball field. So, like I said, even if you're

whether you're a wrestling fan, not a wrestling fan. Wrestling video game fan, not a wrestling video game fan. It's a fun game to play. We'll go all this keeping it with video games. Uh. You know, while I was locked away, I did a deep dive in an investigation into

the Amazon Luna video game system. If you heard about this Amazon Luna yea yeah, So it's a for those of you guys who don't know, it is a streaming video game right system, sort of similar to like Steam or you know one of those right where they you know, upload the games to the Internet and then you stream them, but it's done through Amazon. You know, if you've got a fire stick or you've got an Amazon fire TV or anything like that, or even you know, you could do some games

on your phone, you can play right on there. All you need is an Amazon Luna controller, which you know goes for about I think it's like fifty bucks, but you know, if you get them on sale, you can get them for cheaper than that, and it's ten dollars a month. So how is Amazon Luna right? Does it live up to the hype? Is it as good as Steam? Well? What I'd say the problem is is there's very limited games. Right. They put a game up, it's

up for maybe a month. You're like, oh cool, I want to play that, but I want to finish this game first, and then they take it down before you get to it. Is it glitchy, No, not so much, but it does depend on your internet speed like any other streaming video game system. However, they do have a wide variety of games. Right now. They have Beatman Arkham Knight up on there. They've got the YS eight, which is considered one of the best JRPGs in recent years,

up on there. They've got Fortnite, all of these things. So if you're wanting to play a lot of video games without having to pay fifty sixty bucks for games that you are constantly rotating, without necessarily caring about the

newest games that are out. If you're a casual gamer but you want to play a lot you want to get back into it, it's a very cost effective way to do it without having to buy a PS five, without even having to go and buy a used PS four, you have a lot of games that are available to you pretty glitch free for a very low price. So that's my review of the Amazon Luna streaming cloud based video game system.

Nice because that's that you just reminded me about it, actually, because I heard about it and then it fell off the map in my mind, and then I just now I didn't know anybody that tried it yet, so that's pretty good. Another thing, sticking with the games, I guess this is going to be the gaming episode, because so I got well, I went back home. I went to my brother's right back home is in New York, and my brother gives me this case. A whole bunch of CDs in

and stuff like that. Right, so it has music CDs, there's Tupac is in there, there's Nellie CDs. And I'm like, oh, you know, feeling real nostalgic, right, and as you flipped to the back, there's a whole bunch of PS two games. I was like, oh, snap, we hit the gold mine. Right. He's like, yeah, you can have those because I have a PS two. Still he doesn't have a PS two, So I said, wow, So now I'm gonna

be able to actually play some video games on this thing. Besides, Here Comes to Pain, which was the only video game that I actually have at the moment for it. So, speaking of these these retro systems, right, you know, watching them go from their original asking price down to extremely low and then watching nostalgia bring them back up is insane. When I tell you these these retro gaming consoles at certain places. I was in this place

in Long Island, for example, looking through. It was a retro place. They had toys in their video games, everything, Marvel stuff, Star Wars, you name it. Right in the back they have the gaming area. So they have Xbox PlayStation, the original Xbox PlayStation, Xbox three, sixty, They have Pakea Genesis, they have Atari games as well as systems. Back there, I said, okay, well let me let me just

look. Oh, they have the the Nintendo sixty four. That's it's kind of see through and it was green, right, so let me take a look at that one, the Donkey Kong one, Donkey Kong Special Edition one. Yeah. Yeah, so I said, well, let me take a look at the price you want. You want to take a guess as to how much they were asking six n nine Okay, no, a little a little less than that, A little less, yeah, unless you met six

dollars ninety nine cents, But yeah, let's go with that. That's what I'm Yeah, but no, they were asking four hundred dollars for this game system, and I'm like, well, I might as well just spend the extra hundred dollars and get a PS five or Xbox Series X, like four hundred dollars for that. I know, nostalgia, somebody's gonna go in there and like, oh wow, this is the system I've been looking for. I needed this for my collection. I'm not that guy. I'm going to

need the money a little bit more for my collection of bills. Well, you know, and like you said, there there are people who you want to collect. There are people who want to put it up on a shelf and look at it. And that's totally fine. You know, I'm not spend spend your money how you want, as long as you're covering your bills and you're being safe, do what you like, right. But it's interesting

to me because like a great example of that is Final Fantasy seven. Right when Final Fantasy seven came out, it costs the normal forty dollars or whatever video games are going for it at that point. Then you know, it hit the used market and it was selling for like ten bucks. Finally everybody decided that that was the best video game that came out during the PS one era, I mean and not not joking. I saw it selling for thousands of dollars on eBay at one point a copy, yeah, a copy of

Final Fantasy seven. Then what happened is they released it where you can download it from the PS store, right, have it digitally, And then suddenly that market crashed and everybody was selling their copies of Final Fantasy seven for forty fifty bucks, right, Which, don't get me wrong, that's still expensive because that's the price that it was selling for new. But there's a hell of a lot of difference between thousands of dollars two forty or fifty bucks because

now you could buy it, you know, cloud based, right. So you gotta wonder when it comes to a lot of these systems like that. Nintendo specifically has been a very interesting company of you know, like, yes, they've got their streaming stuff, but then they don't really start and streaming stuff. But then they put out Mario games, but then they sell that same Mario game for eight years, all at the same price. Like their

marketing strategy is very confusing to me. And I don't know how many of the N sixty four games are available on the switch and stuff like that. So for some people who really want to get that nostalgia, buying these old systems might be the only way to play these games. I don't know, right, would Nintendo? It's hard to say, yeah, no, that's

that's true. Speaking of the nostalgia with the Here Comes the Pain. So I bought w WF Here Comes the Pain for the PS two and I bought it from that same store that I was in, and uh, it's funny because I so I asked the guy if he had it. I came and I was like, hey, do you have like WWF. I'm sorry, w w Here Comes the Pain? And he was like, nah, I don't have that one, but I have I have WWF shut your mouth somewhere

in there, right, So I said, okay. So I started looking right and I see the glass section and so I said, okay, well, let me just look. It's probably in the glass section, and sure enough, it's in there. I was like, hey, can I go on here? And he was like yeah, sure. So I just slide the glass open. It was just unlocked. I thought that the key he

had to use the key, but it was unlocked. So I slided and sure, enough within two seconds, like you know, like you're in the library looking for something, found it and pulled it out, brought it up to the front. He was like, oh, I didn't know we had it. I was like, yeah, sure you didn't, budd he was in the glass. You put it in there, and you were trying to

say no, as you want this game. That's cool, But long story short, paid it was forty five for it, and so around original asking price, basically around the original asking price for this game, but Nostalgia has kept this game at that price, and I saw it for way higher than forty five dollars. So I saw he said forty five dollars and I was like, oh, I'll take that, because I've seen this thing for seventy seven on Amazon and higher than that one hundred and three dollars and so on.

I'm like, man, you know, if you're a collector and this is the last piece of your collection, right, if you had every wrestling game you know from from start to now and this is the only one that was missing, what do you do in that situation? You know, do you drop the big bucks? You call yourself a collector? Or? Are you're a collector? You know it's a nut check. Well, same thing

with like the Pokemon cards. You know, like Pokemon cards back in the day were you know, when't Pokemon come to the US ninety eight, like I think it was ninety eight was when it was really popular and you know, everybody was buying Pokemon cards. And it just goes in waves. Every

so often, the Pokemon cards will go back up in value. And the last time was when one of our favorite people that we talk about on the show all the time, Logan Paul, decided that he was going to start opening up Pokemon cards on his stream, and the value this was like what three years ago, like right before the pandemic, I feel like it was.

But the value of Pokemon cards just like shot through the roof. But it only stayed there for a year at most, and then it was back down to Oh, now you could buy a shiny chars Ard for fifteen bucks or whatever on eBay. But you know, again, it's still a lot of money for one card, but compared to you know, what was it that somebody sold like a mint condition chars Ard for it was like I think six hundred dollars something like that. Now it's down to you know fifteen.

Again, It's funny how this market just absent lows, the nostalgia market. One day it'll be Final Fantasy seven, the next day it'll be w W, the next day it'll be Pokemon. Right. Yeah, So my daughter to hang on to her squish meadows for that very reason, just because I'm like, hey, you know, they're only making these things right now, and then they move on to the next thing and whatever is the newest craze

or what have you. So I said, well, it was starting to get a little ridiculous, uh in there in her room, and so we put some of them up and so that she can have walk in space and walking room. But yeah, she has like every squish meadow we go somewhere, she's like ooh, this one, that one. But eventually that that might be kind of like a painting. You know, she has a squish mellows now, and if she sees the market for them go up, and now it's a sign you want to buy a house, get those squish meadows

out the closet. Well, you know, same thing for like Beanie Babe's. Remember when beanie babies were like worst I don't even know how much Wow, he said, Beanie Babies. That's crazy, oh, man, nostalgia the early two thousands was a lawless waste land, man, I tell you so. So I don't remember anything, like maybe maybe it was just me

right because I see it. There's a whole lot of nostalgia. I feel like nostalgia is at its peak right now because you know, when it comes to Marvel and uh, you know, Marvel being a top tiered movie company,

like is it still is it still? Yeah? I mean now now a lot of there's a lot of people who before they Marvel and superhero movies in general were not the money makers at all by any stress of the imagination before and you'd be taking a chance on them, you know, a few years back, twenty thirty years back, well, thirty years back, and now you know, after Blade and so on, there's been some inconsistencies, but for the most part, superhero movies are are known right now today as

bringing in a whole lot of revenue, a whole lot of money and so on. So I feel like the end, I feel like the superhero industry is kind of dying though, like because if you look at you know, reviews, particularly of the shows like the Disney plus shows and things like that. People are always complaining about the CG looks bad, this looks bad, and there's already this call for oh well, the Infinity Saga was so much better, like those were the good days of Marvel. There's already that going

on, you know. I think that this that right now, DC really has the opportunity with their new one that they're getting ready to launch, to be the big name. But you were going somewhere with that. But my point is is I think that already there's nostalgia for the Infinity Saga. No, that's precisely it is that the nostalgia like now and it comes so so

much faster. It's like, oh, it took you know, twenty years, thirty years for Bell bottoms to return into some sort of fashion, you know, and now it'll be like, oh, that was cool six months ago, and then it's dead. And then a year later it's like,

oh they're bringing that back. It's like a year just just a year's time has passed and they're already like, oh, nostalgic about it, you know, whereas before it's like ten years, you know, where where something would bring about a nostalgic Field and just thinking about transformers, think about you know, the comics that we read as kids and now that we still read becoming you know, movies and TV shows and you know, everything seems very nostalgic

right now. And that might be because we've we've made the wheel and reinvented it and reinvented it, then reinvented it and so on. But now seems like it is more of a nostalgic period in time than ever before, or more than I can recall. You know, It's funny because I think a lot of people would look at that and say things like, there's nothing original anymore, you know people, you know, everybody's just rehashing the same thing over and over again. Do we need another Marvel movie? Do we need

another Disney remake? Do we need you know whatever? Whatever? Right? And I think some people would argue a different point and say, oh, well, nostalgia makes us feel good, member berries right, you know, oh we we long for a period when you know something was innocent and blah blah blah blah. I want to throw out a different perspective and say that this is all He's been the case. There have always been retellings we go to the same play over and over again. Shakespeare has always been around,

and there's always been retellings of fairy tales and whatever, whatever whatever. Right now, we're in such a time of wealth disparity. Right, people don't make as much money as they used to. The economy is so out of control. Why would I spend my money to go see a movie or go read a book or watch a show and my limited time, let alone money. You're limited time to watch something that you don't know if you're going to

like. I know I like Batman, I know I like Marvel, I know I liked The Little Mermaid. Right, so I could see a new version of something I know that I like and don't have to take this risk of wasting my time and my money, or I could go see something that I'm completely unfamiliar with, right And I don't think it's the fact that it's nostalgia. I think it's the fact that it's we know what we're getting and we don't have to take this risk of our limited time and money. That

is true. That is true interesting perspective on now, and that's true going back. What's something that you would say that brings about that feeling for you. Is it, you know, is it doing a particular thing, is it like, uh, you know, is it playing the guitar? What's something that brings about immense an immense amount of nostalgia for you? You know, I don't really know, because again, to a certain extent, with

the Internet, right, we don't have to search for nostalgia anymore. Like we talked about a lot of the shows that we liked as a kid are still around and stuff. You know, we talk about comic books, you know, and even you know, stalgia for comic books. Comic books has been going strong since nineteen thirty five, thirty you know seven, when did Action comics come out? Thirty seven? Yeah, nineteen thirty seven, right, since the nineteen thirty yeah, yeah, yeah, nineteen thirties, you

know. And so you say, oh, well, we're in nostalgia for that that never went away. How Rangers never went away? You know, sometimes we want to go back and look at the early things or get back into something. But is that really nostalgia or is that just catching back up on something we haven't been you know, prevy too. I don't really know. The one thing I think maybe gives me nostalgia, so to speak,

or maybe two things that give me nostalgia. Is one, I'd say Nickelodeon cartoons, right, like going back watching old episodes of The rug Rats or Keenan and Cal or you know something like that that I was probably even watching rerun. I don't even think I saw them when they originally aired. I think I was probably watching reruns of as a kid. But going back, I think that gives me a lot of nostalgia. And the other thing is food. I move around a lot, you know, I lived in a

lot of different places as a kid and even as an adult. And saying oh, I'm gonna get food that I used to get when I lived in this place. I'm gonna go to this restaurant that I used to go to when I lived in this place, that gives me a real sense of nostalgia. Yeah. For me, it's definitely wrestling. And I mean wrestling has

been consistent in my life, but it's definitely wrestling. So and that's something that when I sit down, you know, I've watched stuff recently that I was like, Oh, I didn't realize that this happened because when I was a kid, I remembered it differently, and then going back and watching it as an adult, I'm like, oh wait a second, so now I understand it better. And now it's it's different when people say things about the

child's mind, right, and how a child's mind works. Yeah, you know, the attention to spending isn't all there, so you might you might gather this and that. But another aspect is, you know, just general experience, life experience. You gauge things differently, you put them up against other things differently when you're an adult watching something versus when you're a kid.

And I've seen that exactly. Yeah. Yeah, And so in another way, it's like, let's say somebody watching something right and you know, they watch it as a kid and it's like it's the greatest thing. They're like, oh yeah, I remember, and it was this, that and the third, and then they become an adult and then they watch it and they're like this is trash, Like what is this? I thought this is my

favorite show when I was a kid, and this is jack shit. But you know, sometimes, uh, sometimes it also works in the reverse. It works like you know, oh, well, you know, my parents maybe watch this show. Oh my parents put on Bob Ross and the guy was just sitting there painting and the next thing, you know, you're like, huh. You see Bob Ross on TV as an adult and you're like, wow, this guy's relaxing, Like, no, wonder my parents put

this on. And it's interesting too, because, like you said, you know, as a kid, you know, we look at things and go, oh man, that was epic because we didn't have anything to compare it to, you know, the X Men nineties cartoon or you know the Dragon Ball Z or the Power Rangers or whatever, and you go back and you watch it now and it's like, man, this is so slow pace. It takes thirty episodes for Goku to power up, you know, whatever. The case is, right, but at that time, you didn't have anything.

And I think again, that's a lot of reason why things are getting remade and stuff like that is because they want to give you that feeling that you felt, but updated to your mindset nowadays, right, you know, And that's why we see the Marvel movies, you know, they give you that same feeling that the Spider Man cartoon gave you in the nineties, or Spectacular Spider Man in the early two thousands or whatever. But give it to

you in a live action, realistic setting. But that being said, there are so many people who are also like, anyway you want to dig into something, you can dig into it, Like let's let's talk about the beauty and the beast. Right. If you want to look at this from a you know, negative standpoint, you say, oh, well, she's a girl who got kidnapped, had severe Stockholm syndrome, fell for her abuser. It's a bad you know, representation for women. You can't just marry somebody

you just met. He was horrible, you know, all this, etcetera, etcetera. Or you can look at this, you know, in a different way and say she was an intelligent woman who sacrificed herself for her family, remained calm in the face of adversity, found the goodness in somebody else, and was able to help not only herself but educate the people around her, become better people, and found love in the end. Right, And either one is a valid way of looking at it. It just matters how

people do it. And I feel like so often nowadays people want to be that cynic people want to look at you know, Disney movies and be like those are bad examples for girls because blah bla blah blah blah, or these were you know, causing violence because of blah blah blah blah when you know, what the hell right, It just depends on how you want to look at it. This is true and this has been another episode of the Being Zang Zoom podcast. We'll see you next time.

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