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The Lasting Effects of Alzheimer's

Jun 01, 202323 minSeason 3Ep. 18
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To spotlight June which is Alzheimer's Awareness Month, Carrie and Kezia spoke to Tara Judd-Longley, who worked many years with The Alzheimer's Association to educate us what Alzheimer's is and its effect on loved ones of all ages, from a non-clinical perspective. 

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Carrie

Hi, I'm Carrie, a stroke survivor, and member of BIND.

Kezia

And I'm Kezia stroke survivor. and member of BIND. And as well, and today we are welcome. We're going to be welcome and introducing BIND's development director, tara Judd Longley. Before she joined BIND though. She had experienced many years also fundraising and raising awareness on Alzheimer's. So because it's June, we do want to share all of her experience and her, um, information that she knows about Alzheimer's and how we connect that to brain injury.

So welcome Tara. I'm so glad to have you here.

Tara

Thank you so much for inviting me. I'm excited to be here and thank you for highlighting Alzheimer's during Alzheimer's awareness month. It's important to be aware of it all year, but especially in the month of June. So it's a good time. It's a good time for that.

Kezia

Oh, thank you. That's good. Good. We're doing some good work. Thank you. Um, so before we go into all of that really good information, can you tell us a little bit about yourself who you are and how was your experience?

Tara

So I, um, I grew up in an unusual way. I grew up with a family that, uh, Owned senior care homes. So the first time I was in a nursing home environment. Now what we would call skilled living. I was four. And my first job was, I was 14 years old and I was the ward clerk on a nurses station. Senior care home that also. Uh, dealt with a wide range of residents, including those with Alzheimer's disease. So I was exposed to it very early and by the time I was 18, I was assistant activities director.

And then I went on with college and the rest of my life and said, I'm not going back to work in senior care. Everybody thought that's what I would do. And I said, no, but I have a passion for cognitive science. I still have a passion for cognitive science and I'm a writer and I've combined those things, which is part of what led me to nonprofit and also Alzheimer's and eventually to bind.

Carrie

Um, awesome. That's a great to hear. Already learned something new about you. So we just were kind of for our listeners to make sure that we're saying it hopefully correctly. According to the national Institute of health Alzheimer's disease is described as a brain disorder that slowly destroys memory and thinking skills. And eventually the, the ability to carry out simple tasks, um, Um, can you expand on that based on your experience, did we miss anything important?

Tara

I think that's a really good overview. Um, what, what people don't understand sometimes this is what's actually happening in the brain. I am not a clinician, but what we know is that neurons that are, uh, individual neurons or neurons in a network in the brain is what makes our, um, cognitive and functional skills happen. So when there's damage to neurons or neurons die, or the network dies. We start to lose brain function.

And one of the things I got to do at Alzheimer's association, one of my roles was community awareness and education. That was with, um, every single range of person out there from corporate executives to caregivers. But also to children. And I had the opportunity to work with a fifth grade school in Plano. Because they wanted to understand it because her teacher was being impacted. It was her mom who was diagnosed and there were a lot of questions from the kids.

So we went in and what we did is we took, we talked about Jenga as a puzzle. And we talked about how the brain and neurons affect different cognitive and memory skills. So, what we did is we each took a block and we wrote a piece of information on it. This is my address. This is my dog's name. This is my favorite car. This is how I get out of homework. They wrote that.

And so what we did is we put the puzzle together and the things that were the very basic things like this is how I walk across the floor. And this is how I eat food. Those were at the bottom. And in that step at the very top, the least kind of impactful was how I get out of homework. And so what we did is we took a block out.

And when we took a block out, we talked about that being neurons that were being impacted by Alzheimer's disease, which is a, um, we don't have time to go into it the way that disease actually affects the brain. But it's, um, it's the death of the neurons or the death of the network. So when we took a block out, That piece of information was gone. And I said, what do you think is happening to the person when that block is gone?

And the student said, well, can you put in a new block and write a new piece of information on it and the answer's no, once it's gone, it's gone. Can you pull it halfway out? And it's kind of there and it's kind of not, absolutely because that's kind of what keeps Jenga balanced. And so what we did is we pulled out pieces of different information. Some of it was, this is my address.

Well, if you don't have the piece of information, if this is my address, and this is where I live, then it makes sense that if you're walking or you're driving, you don't know how to get home because the piece of information about how. Where home is doesn't exist anymore. It's actually gone. And sometimes adults will, um, get frustrated with patients that have Alzheimer's disease, because they will say, you know, this, you should know this, you knew this last week.

I'm going to write it on a sign and put it on the mirror for you to remember. What's happening is it's kind of like. It's kind of like a house. So if you imagine a house, two story, three story house, and every room has a light in it. You walk in, you flip the light switch on.

If you ever walked in a room and the light bulb is flickering and you think, oh, it's about to go out and then it comes back on and it stays on for a week and you think, okay, I don't have to get the ladder and change the bulb. I it's fine. Then it flickers again. And then eventually it's gone. So what happens with neurons in the brain as they're being affected by Alzheimer's disease? Is that those light bulbs. Those networks, those neurons that are driving cognition.

And memory and eventually physical function are flickering because they're dying because they're being destroyed by the disease. And eventually the light goes out. So one of the things that people don't understand is that, um, Alzheimer's is always fatal. It may not be the actual only cause of death. But there is no cure for it. And eventually it will be fatal.

Because one by one, each room, the lights are going to go out and at the very end, the lights that go out are the lights, the neurons in our brain that tell our, tells our heart to beat. It tells us how to swallow. It tells our lungs how to breathe. Yeah. So if you think about it that way, it's a little bit easier than trying to understand why somebody remembers something today. But they didn't remember it last week and then they remember it next Tuesday and then they never remember it again.

Carrie

Sure.

Tara

And that's like flickering.

Carrie

That's something that I guess I never heard. I liked the way you said that, but it's also making me think about. With the brain injury, we have a way to rewire. When after we've had a traumatic brain injury or stroke, you know, there are ways to rewire your brain, but it sounds like with Alzheimer's.

That that ability has also gone, that you can't take the neuro-plasticity the same way that you focused on a brain injury to provide it to an Alzheimer's patient, that you can regain that cognitive functioning of what my address is. It's gone, it's gone, it's gone. It's gone. Wow. I did not know that.

Tara

What we can do with Alzheimer's patients. So, which is amazing, the neuroplasticity that we have working with those with brain injuries, is a lesson for us in working with Alzheimer's patients. And part of that is everything that affects the body. We know this with working with brain injury, the brain is not isolated in any way. Every single thing that affects the body affects the brain.

So anything we can do to strengthen the body is going to strengthen the defense of the brain against the disease as much as possible. And researchers across the world have combined. Um, actually this is one of the first diseases we've ever done this with in real live time, with real time data so that somebody in England is studying the disease and a way to stop it a way to reverse it. And somebody in Puerto Rico is doing it. Somebody in the Iceland's doing it. And instead of waiting for.

Uh, study to be published in a journal and a year later people are reading it. They're actually exchanging data online in real time. So that it's happening, the information is happening faster and faster. And that's one of the things that Alzheimer's association. Has funded, but we do know that what affects the body affects the brain. So things that can help with living your best life with Alzheimer's disease. And when I started working in Alzheimer's, it was 2012.

Okay. And we talked about Alzheimer's being a fatal disease. Since then what we talk about is we live with Alzheimer's disease and we live the best life that we can for as long as we can. So things that affect the brain blood pressure, those who are, uh, have diabetes, managing diabetes, the things that have the most impact are exercise that you don't have to go work out on the treadmill every day. But getting the body moving right. Diet, and it's not a specific diet.

There's so many things out there that say this diet or this pill or this, you know, powder this spice or whatever, you can look out and national institutes of health and the. Um, institutes for aging and see what the most recent research is and alz.org research will do the same thing, but it's basically a healthy diet, keeping your blood pressure down and keeping diabetes in check, keeping your cholesterol in check another thing that helps.

And we also found this with, with our work together in, uh, and addressing brain injury is socialization because what happens when we're able to be with others and interact with others, especially people we've only just met. Is the brain is very active. We're learning about this person and we're learning things we didn't know before. We're, we're communicating back and forth. One of the things that is similar with Alzheimer's disease and unfortunately brain injury is we become isolated.

Our family doesn't know how to work with us, our friends step away because of fear. Yeah. Or misunderstanding. Misunderstanding. Right. Yeah, so sleep is also extremely important. And one of the things that happens when we sleep is that all our body resets itself. Again, I'm not a clinician, but there are levels in the brain of acetylcholine that helps to restore the brains function and without sleep it's like depletes it.

And they're actually sleep medications that stop the renewal of acetylcholine too. So things, two things to look at. But that those things that help us keep our body healthy and our brain healthy with brain injury can also strengthen, um, Alzheimer's disease. And then the other thing that we, we talked about, and I know you guys mentioned was how does Alzheimer's disease affect those who have brain injury? Yeah, it is.

Kezia

It is really important.

Tara

It is that it's kind of scary. So it is a disease. It is a disease in the brain that we're not able to manage or stop. So anything that affects the blood brain barrier is going to affect the brain's ability to, to stop a disease or to slow down a disease. So that's a little bit high risk.

Kezia

Yeah, I right now that you just mentioned that I think that's all important. Like you've been sharing so much, really good knowledge right now. I'm like learning so many great things and I hope that all of our subscribers are as well. I am going to take a little quick pause and remind all of our followers to make sure to continue looking for us every Thursday.

Uh, we have an episode every Thursday, so you can just check us out, make sure to like us on all your social platforms, especially on YouTube. You can subscribe to us, listen to us, watch us and make sure to write to comment as well. So, like I said, your information is just so it's really good. Like a lot of things that I didn't know about, I really liked how you shared the information as if we were, well, you did to kids, right? Fifth graders, but.

It makes it so much easier to understand and know when it's. Like understandable. So I'd never had heard it that way and it's been so good. And same with like the information that you're doing right now for tips and how it connects to brain injury. I did have a question though, like, I did hear from you when you were saying it, when you were describing like who you are and how you got so involved, but let's take a couple steps back. How did you get so involved in.

You were interested in it because of your age, but. Like w did you go into school for brain injury or like, um, like neurons and like do this, like for school, how did you get so involved and so knowledgeable? I mean, yes, you do read this a lot, but like, how did you get so involved in and then become part of within the community for Alzheimer's.

Tara

I am a I'm a cognitive science nerd. I will read every single, I think I had a. I had subscriptions to medical journals on brain function when I was in. You know, my twenties, I have a degree and have a degree in psychology with a focus on trauma impact on the brain. At the time, it was actually emotional trauma, but it led to a passion for, for physical trauma as well. And then Alzheimer's is a disease that impacts the brain.

So that's always been a passion of mine and I didn't have a degree in psychology and I also have a degree in English as a writer. And so I thought this is what I want to do with my life is find something I care about to write about. And that is. Um, that has been, was Alzheimer's Associations work in the community and also eventually BIND, but yeah.

Carrie

So, I know you had done a lot of different things with the Alzheimer's community. Um, you've also helped a lot of fundraising for them. What's. What's it like different working with the Alzheimer's community versus the brain injury community? Or is it all the same? It is basically.

Tara

It is all the same because it's all people. And a lot of the people think fundraising is scary. And you're just saying, Hey, give me money. But it's, it's about connecting with each person individually. If I can. If we can, cause it's not just me. My role is at BIND to lead this work. And my role in the Alzheimer's association was to help lead the work and help craft the approach to it.

So, um, the belief, my belief as a, as a fundraiser and as a community engagement leader is every single person we encounter has the possibility of a connection to the disease or to brain injury or to. To puppies, whatever it is that we're, we're looking at and raising money for. And, and my job as the development director and with the team is to, uh, to identify how that person wants to be involved in the work. If it's something, if they want to give $5, because $5 is what they have to give.

Then we honor that because they're contributing to something that they care about, how much it is. Doesn't matter. If what they can do is volunteer to help unstack boxes when we're doing auction or they want to come and help out at the clubhouse, you know, for when we're at BIND or they want to come and be a part of walk to end Alzheimer's for the Alzheimer's association. It's honoring their connection and finding a way to talk to celebrate that and give them the opportunity to do that.

For some people it's fundraising, for many it's volunteerism. But what we find with fundraising is that when we have people that volunteer, 80% of volunteers are also, uh, donors. So walk to end Alzheimer's and during. Um, during June the longest day, June 21st is the second largest fundraiser that Alzheimer's association has. It's another way to, to.

Take a positive look towards and be together with friends and colleagues and family to say, we're going to fight this and we're going to do it together.

Kezia

Yeah, and I think it's great, especially like so like you mentioned, and it's been a couple of times now about June being the month, um, for Alzheimer's. Like, what are some things that are really important to be talking about in June for more awareness for people? I think like within stroke awareness, we talk about the signs. Is that something that's also extremely important to be shared for, um, for our listeners or people that have family members that are being affected by it?

Like, is it the warnings of Alzheimer's? Is that like the best thing to be like raising awareness about?

Tara

I think that's, I think that's a really big one. I think the signs of Alzheimer's disease. Educate yourself, even just a 20 minute education of the high level of what it is versus the mythology. There's a lot of mythology out there about what it is. We used to think it was normal. Oh, it's normal aging. But that's not, that is not, absolutely not true.

Carrie

See that's what I was thinking. Like when, so when do you go from, oh, that's just mom being a mom again, forgetting where she put her eyeglasses, you know, to, I think. Mom's got a real problem. I mean, that's, I think kind of like, how do you figure that out? I mean, I guess there's tools about there to let us know that.

Tara

But there are cog there are cognitive scales that even a general practitioner can can do, but it's, it's getting somebody, either or yourself, to be able to go to that physician and say, I think I have something we need to take a look at. So what people used to ask me is, oh my gosh, do I have Alzheimer's because I can't remember where I left my keys. Or for me, my phone is red because I ca I always misplace my phone. If you cannot remember where you left your keys, that is not Alzheimer's.

If you pick up a key and you look at it and you don't know what it is or what it does, that's a problem. Okay. We also talk a lot about, um, loss of problem-solving and loss of being able to complete tasks that one normally would complete. An example of that is somebody that was really good at balancing their checkbook. And always did it every month. All of a sudden is in the middle of it and stops and does not have an idea how to continue because those neurons are being affected.

That's a problem. We're seeing something happening in the brain. It's interrupting something that's normal. Um, so, so it's, it's really a change in function that is affecting daily life is the most important thing.

Carrie

So there is still some of that just oh I'm getting older and I can't remember right when I walked into the kitchen for kind of jokes, but then there, we've got to really pay attention. Individually, just like you do brain injury. Everyone's individually different to see more, those warning signs might be a little bit harder to pick out, but

Tara

absolutely.

Carrie

Okay.

Kezia

Okay. Great. And I think we had one more question about Alzheimer's um, did where people, is there a difference between Alzheimer's and dementia? That's something that like was just curious about.

Tara

That's a good question. That's the question that I would get all the time. So if you think of dementia as an umbrella, Underneath that, um, dementia is, um, is a sort of a collection of of memory and functional impairment. It's not a disease in itself. It's. It's an overall sort of arching umbrella underneath that Alzheimer's disease is the largest piece. It's the one that we see the most is probably I think, 50 to 75%. The other things that we see underneath, underneath that are, um, Lewy body.

It has a pretty significant, I think it's like 25%. We see other forms of dementia that are being caused by other diseases Huntington's disease, we can see dementia. Parkinson's disease, we can see dementia. TBI, any other acquired brain injury, sometimes we'll see dementia. It's a result of what's going on with the brain in the body. It's not its own disease. Far and away. Uh, Alzheimer's is the most prevalent. And right now it affects about 6 million people in the United States.

Carrie

Wow.

Tara

Uh, we know that about one in six women will be affected by the disease as they age and about one in 10 men. And we talk about that a lot as Americans. This is in the U S, you see the stats. This is a worldwide problem with consistent representation across countries across the globe. This is not a U.S. Problem.

Carrie

Right. And is it, with you saying that, does it. I'm going to say this wrong, trying to, um, does it affect a certain population more than other, like people of color or. You know, just men versus women, does it distinguish. Does that make sense? What I'm trying to ask.

Tara

It's hard. I know it's kind of hard to parse it down and we see it more in women than we do men, but that could be impacted because of aging. It could be impacted because diseases are typically tested and medications and treatment is tested more on males than it is females. We see women uh, aging longer than men. So we know that this progresses with age. With, um, with, uh, we have.

A little bit of a difference and I don't have the current stats in front of me, but we know that it affects, uh, the Hispanic community a little bit differently and it affects the African-American community a little bit differently. And part of that, as you remember, we talked about body affects the brain, those diseases that disproportionately affect African-Americans. Or the Latino community have an impact also on Alzheimer's.

So if your risk factors are higher then the possibility of you getting it is, is higher. Again, it's how you manage, how you manage your own risk factors. That is the, that is the key.

Carrie

Sure. Okay.

Kezia

Wow. Thank you so much. Honestly, you've been sharing so many, so many great data and also just letting us know we need to live like really good, like on our best behavior, not best behavior, but our best, like, um, like how we practice our own life, right? Like walk tall, like eat healthy and do all of these things. So thank you so much about that. And thank you honestly, Tara so much for joining us on the special month of June. And giving us all the information that you gave us. So thank you.

Tara

You're welcome. I'm honored to be here.

Carrie

Great.

Kezia

So, if you would like to contact us. Uh, make sure to listen to us on Thursdays and you can also contact us and email us at bind waves@thebind.org. Follow us on Instagram and just make sure to visit also our website at thebind. Org.

Carrie

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Kezia

Until next time

Carrie

until next time.

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