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Now I'm Billy Cunning in the Great American with you every Sunday, picking up about five more stations, and I'm glad to have close to three hundred and fifty stations now from Alaska to Florida, from Maine Nowai every place in between, and over the next ten or eleven weeks. How consequential is this going to be? I have several guests coming up two or three to talk about the end of civilization as we know it. It might be a little bit overstated, but not really. Right now, we owe
about thirty six trillion dollars in national debt. We pay as much as interest on the national debt as for the Department of Defense, and the plans of Kamala Harris and that puts vice president from Minnesota would have us borrowing another four billion dollars every year as far as the eye can see. With their various governmental programs, we
can't survive. I can't look at a twenty or twenty five year old and say, you know what, the country we're going to give you is in as good or better shape than the country my mother and father gave me. I can't say that it's bad. It's going to get worse, not better. The only way is to try to change course, and even that may not be good enough. Donald Trump has the best of intentions, but the fourth state of government,
the bureaucracy, will not put up with it. And so I don't know what the future holds, but I know this is only one way to vote. That's for Donald Trump. Because Kamala Harris will be a putz in the Oval office. You'll do whatever left wingers tell her to do, and Bernie Sanders will be in charge. If you like the conditions of our major cities, if you like the conditions of Chicago or Portland, or Los Angeles, downtown Cincinnati, which by the way, is pretty good compared to the other ones.
But how about Atlanta, Washington, DC, Memphis. You can't live in those areas. There's not a place you can raise a family, get work, send your kids to public schools, and be safe. It doesn't exist. During the Democratic National Convention, which ended about three nights ago, there were twenty seven people shot and seven murdered in the city of Chicago. And what a ridiculous farce that convention was. And so tonight, as I said, the last few Sunday nights, at some
point out eleven and Hesbelah will launch on Israel. Last night, Wolf Blitzer, if CNN was going nuts, this was it, This is going to be the war. It turned out to be not to be the war. And they launched about two two hundred missiles, guided cruise missiles and artillery shells. Ninety percent were apprehendis how we say, blown apart in the sky. And the next step did not happen, and you keep waiting for it. Why is it not happening?
I think, I know, I think Senator Graham from South Carolina mentioned it on one of the morning talk shows that Israel has conveyed the message to Iran that your proxies in the north and south of Israel, if they caused serious damage to the state of Israel, We're going to cause serious damage to Iran from which it won't recover for years, if not decades. They've examined there's three oil exporting ports that are multi billion dollar facilities in Iran that to Israel could take out in the next
hour or two. By midnight Eastern time, guess what they're gone, And all of a sudden the price of oil triples or quadruples, and Iran is out of business. They have no economy. None of the Islamic states have an economy. Is there an economy in Lebanon with Hesbela. You might recall that in the fifties, sixties, seventies, and early eighties that by root was the Paris of the Middle East.
It was functioning, not functioning anymore. And by the way, I got to get to Christian Chicago in a few minutes because he's the call of the Caledon last Sunday night, christe right there. Look at what Hesbelah Islamic extremists have done to be root in Lebanon. There is no economy, there's no functioning medical system, there's no functioning public education. Nobody works except for Hesbelah. And they torture, beat and kill women and children on a regular basis. There are Muslims.
Look what's happening in a gaza with Hamas. They took the billions and billions of dollars in our money given to them, and the billions given from Europe and from UN agencies to pound those plowshares into weapons and use against the g Jews. And so instead of using it to build better schools, better hospitals, no no, no, they had guns and weapons and missiles and artillery shells and
cruise missiles and put controlling command centers inside schools. So the Jews would have to respond by killing large numbers of Palestinian children, which is what Hamas wants to occur. So that's what Hamas has done in Gossa, which is on the course the Mediterranean, and it's a wonderful piece of land that over the years and decades could be developed into a functioning democracy, but not with Hamas won't
have it. Then you have the hoodies in Yemen. It's on the ocean, could be a beautiful place to live. There's no jobs, there's no public education, there's no public utilities, there's nothing to do in Yemen because of the Hoodies, who are left wing radical Islamic group go to Afghanistan. For many years, Afghanistan had a little bit of a
functioning society because of our involvement in Afghanistan. As soon as Joe Biden did what he did in the first six months of his presidency, the Taliban has taken over Afghanistan, killed all the freedom loving Afghans, imprisoned in their garb, women and girls and children, and brutalized the nation of Afghanistan. In fact, everywhere you look in the Islamic world there's a functioning part, which is the Suning part, and a
completely dysfunctional part called the Shia part. Look what's happening in the rock under the boot of Isis Islamic states and Siria is what it's called. Look, look, look what's going on right now in Syria. Are you kidding me? And so, as long as the world puts up with Iran, the head of the snake doing what it's doing with hesbla hamas Isis and the leaders of Iran are far left wing militaristic killers who masquerade as holy godly men,
nothing's going to change, and it could change. It could change by telling Iran the next time there's an artillery shell or a missile that arrives in Israel from Hamas or from Hoodie's or from the Hesbalah. We're going to attack your oil platforms and ports in southern part of Iran and take you out of business. You'll have nothing first time it happens, and then do it. And if that doesn't work, there's two large dams north of Tehran that provide all the drinking water for Iran. You do
it the next time. Guess what we're gonna do. We're gonna take out all the drinking water supplies in Iran. Next time it happens. We're gonna eliminate all the power grid. You'll have none. Next time it happens, we're gonna take down all the departments of Defense and war inside Iran, and suddenly there'll be a revolution in Iran and maybe peace would come back. That's what needs to happen. Because I spoke to foreign policy experts. A couple coming up
later on, including I'm looking forward to this. My guests later on includes Seth Franz gonna call him in Israel. He wrote a book about what happened on October the seventh, and also later on his past remark builts to talk what's happening. I thought tonight might be a good knight to talk about what Hesblas doing. Twenty four hours ago exchanged a little bit, but not a lot, not a lot.
Israel needs to win the war. The strategy of the Islamic terrorists and the murderers, the knife wielders in Germany, in England, in Paris. Maybe we need knife control now, maybe a three day waiting period before we get a knife. The Islamic extremists has declared war on civilization, taking down large numbers of people, not just in the West, but in Canada and Mexico, United States and Russia, for God's sake, killing all over the world. And the head of the
snake is Iran. And the goal now is to bleed Israel dry, to keep them in a perpetual state of war, so they have no economy, and every time time a daybreak occurs in Haifa, or in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, there's more rockets and artillery shells coming overhead. And to keep them on a war footing, so they can't have a high tech industry, can't have agriculture, and they can't have tourism. For a while, last night or this morning
tel Aviv International Airport was locked down. The way to win the war is to eliminate the head of the snake in Tehran. And this morning Senator Graham said as much that the next time one of these artillery shells land with Iran's signature on it, we will attack mercilessly elements in Iran that cause that society and a sense to exist. And the people of Iran went out from under the yoke of these Islamic radicals who call themselves men of God. So that's what needs to happen. They're
going to bleed Israel dry. Israel economies right now is in the tank. And every time that the controlling command centers of a mass are taken out inside of school and CNN and other organizations broadcasts the death of innocent Palestinian children, and they are innocent Palestinian children killed by Hamas that the Jews blame for it when they're trying
to defend themselves against takeover. One can only imagine if Iran itself had the military power of Israel, and Israel had the military power of Iran, what Israel would look like. It would be devastated, It'd be gone the goal of Iran is to kill every Jew, half for in Israel, about half for in the United States wherever you can find him, and export terrorism all over the world. That's the goal. And Saudi Arabia doesn't want it. Cutter doesn't want it. You're not em by Iran. They don't want it.
They stand with us. That is not civilization. It is the end of civilization as we know it. So later on, also, I want to put a call into Will Scarf. He's the attorney for Donald Trump. And I thought now that the Demaker Democratic Convention is concluded, that it looks like the lawsuits and the indictments are going away because Jack Smith has said to Judge Shunkin in Washington, DC that he's done until after the election, and the case in Florida was dismissed. The one in New York City's on
life support. God help us all if Judge Juan Mrshawan in about two weeks I think September the sixteenth puts Donald Trump in prison on those ridiculous trumped up charges put out by Democrats so they can say at their convention it's a convicted felon. God help us all if he locks him up, and the case in Atlanta's going to go away eventually anyway, because the prosecutor there, Fanny Willis, is an incompetent. Her license will probably be suspended by
the Georgia Disiplinary Council. So all this is going to go away. It was put up for political reasons, and it's all going to go away by legal reasons. That's why Will Scarf's going to be here, the attorney for Donald Trump, who, by the way, is running for the attorney general in the state of Missouri. And I know I get calls from Missouri, some others Loo, and from others in Missouri, and I would love to go to Missouri and vote for Will Scarf if I could. Donald
Trump's attorney. This guy's brilliant. He wins every case that he takes. SACD short break. When we continue, we're gonna hear from Chris and Chicago called last week. He talked about the city of Chicago locked down, boarded up, and I asked them to call in this Sunday night to talk about what happened for those four days in Chicago and is there a glow? Are the businesses now open? Can the schools now reopen? Are there functioning government facilities
happening in the city of Chicago. I don't think so. How about San Francisco, Los Angeles, let's named the city. The longer the Democrats are in charge of a city, the worse it becomes. In fact, there's no functioning blue city and the Blue state anywhere in the country, and that they have taken our opulent, beautiful, majestic American cities and their policies have destroyed them. So let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Eight six six six
four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you and other great Americans every Sunday. Of course, we have thousands of calls tonight. We're going to begin with Chris and Chicago, and then JD in Vegas and calls in New Hampshire and Idaho and Pittsburgh. But one other comment. I have a lot of respect for Frank Lunz.
I've done some cable news shows with him, including on Balance with Leland Vintert, and he was with Leland on Friday, and this is a reference to the RFK Junior endorsement of Donald Trump and his appearance with him, and he made the point that on balance, it's worth one to two percentage points for Donald Trump to have RFK out of the race to endorse him, And he said he sensed that Kennedy alone in the race was trying about eight to ten percentage points, and because he left, most
of those percentage points were votes taken away from Joe Biden. Now that Biden's gone, Kamala Harris has replaced him, and that Kennedy's vote collapsed down to about four or five percent, And what's left in that four to five percent is eighty percent Trump vote. So some of them are unhappy, not going to participate, of course, but roughly two percent, he says, the wins remaining are going to vote for Donald Trump. And you think maybe one or two percentage
points not that big a deal. There should be about one hundred and fifty million people voting, and the last election, allegedly in twenty twenty, Biden received eighty one million votes. Trump received seventy four million votes. There were about eight million votes counted cast for others Joe Stein et cetera. So about one hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty
five million people might vote. I think probably ninety five percent legitimately the other five percent will be made up, but that one percentage point could have a huge impact,
a difference in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And he went on to say that if RFK Junior had endorsed Kamala Harris, which was certainly a possibility, then that would mean that Trump would in fact lose one to two percentage points instead of gaining one percent win or two percentage points, which is a three to four percent whip, which is gigantic.
But I hasten to point out one other thing. We sit here in the evening of August at twenty fifth, it's about ten to twenty five pm Eastern time on
the left coast. You know, it's about seven to twenty five in the evening sun end said, Yet what going to decide this election may not have occurred yet if we had a legitimate media in twenty twenty, the Hunter Biden laptop that the FBI had eleven months before the election, knowing it was real, would have tanked the possibilities of Joe Biden being elected, in fact about forty percent of his votes. That if they knew what was in the Hunter Biden laptop before the election, they would not have
voted for Joe Biden. So the media fully participated in the lies about the Hunter Biden laptop, which assists that Joe Biden the same thing's going to happen this time. No matter what happens, it's going to be twisted and turned against Donald Trump and in favor of Kamala Harris because she's a Putts and she'll do whatever she's told in the Oval Office, much like Joe Biden is going to do what he's told for the next five or
six months. And so the fact that RFK Junior has arrived with Donald Trump is about a plus two to three percentage points, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If Trump wins two of those three, he's the president. If he wins all three, he's the president. If he loses
all three, it's going to be very difficult. I think the best state for Donald Trump is going to be the state of Michigan, goes to the Palestinian vote there, and the fact that it appears that Joe Biden is helping both sides in that war, giving money to Iran and giving missiles to Israel, both of which half of which is only popular in Dearborn County, so that may cost him one hundred thousand votes, which may turn Michigan.
Plus there's more and more patriots in Michigan every day than understanding the ev industry that the electrical vehicle plant being built by the Chinese communists in Mexico would tank the internal combustion engine made in Dearborn and in Detroit. So workers in Michigan understand this more than other parts
of the country. They're more close to it. So the fact is that pollster Frank Lunz believes that the RFK junior endorsement of Trump could make the difference in the Swing States unless something more dramatic happens, which is likely in September or October. Plus, the Great Debate is September tenth. We have to see Kamala Harris will do fine in that debate and Donald Trump, I think, will do fine.
And then if Trump wins the debate, which is very unlikely because the media will declare the winner and it's not going to be Donald Trump, then there may not be another debate because if Kamala Harris is still up in the polling, say the end of September, that maybe it's baked in the cake, that we're gonna have to fight like warrior poets for this country. I've said to many young folks like Demanti MacIntyre, Jalen Rose, and others that this country is worth fighting for. It's a great place.
It could be better, could be a lot better. I'm not sure that Trump's going Donald Trump can do a whole bunch to change the direction of Washington. But I know one thing. He'll stop what's happening. Not Kamala Harris what she would do, which would be disastrous along with her Putts. Lieutenant Governor of the state of Minnesota, Tim Wallace is a clown or the cop. So let's continue with more. Yeah, tamp on, tamp on the other side. Uh,
we'll go right to the cause you got. Christian Chicago has been waiting in thousands of others and if a line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven later tonight is the attorney for Donald Trump talking about the cases and more. Bill Cunningham, the Great American. I try to be a great American with you and all of the great Americans every Sunday night.
Billy cunning in the Great American, has promised. You might recall last Sunday night I had on a great listener of mine from Chicago talking about the preparation for the DNC and uh. And now he's calling back with an update of what happened, what didn't happen and uh. Chris in Chicago. Well, first of all, thanks for calling in and give the American people a full report. What is Chicago like three or four days after the convention? Bill?
Well, you know, it really was a story of two different realities, one obviously pre and post DNC, and then
one during it. I think the two things that stood out to most people which kind of settled in after you realize that the math protests and chaos by the Palestinian protesters, the anti Israel protesters weren't going to have the effect that many people thought they were going to was because of the absolute tremendous and honorable presence of the policemen and women of the Chicago's not only Chicago Police Department, but others from all over the world. I'm
sorry the country. You know, we saw in Grant Park in the central areas where these organizations were actually given permiss at a show of force that is unlike anything that we've ever seen up here where there were literally one hundreds, if not thousands of police officers in their right gear, in their right uniforms, shoulder to shoulder around these areas where these protesters were. And the interesting there was basically two interesting things that really stood out to everyone.
One was, you know, you harken back to call the BLM riots the George Floyd riots and TIFA think that nature and INTIFA was here. Did these cops were empowered
to do what they're supposed to do. Where if one of these rioters got within their space or lunched at them, or made a move or did something that they were told not to do, you would see for these police officers grab them by the neck, grab them by the feet, pick them up, take them back behind the line in the wall of cops would close and that individual would
be arrested. Right And just seeing that happen one or two times, everybody else knew the protesters knew that the cops were not messing around this time.
So I think what it was. I watched some of the news conferences or the chief of police, they said, we're gonna nip it in the bud, and there was this scene and they had the metal fences up. That's a couple of them had breached the metal fence and all hell broke loose, and all of a sudden CPD was on top of them like red on a rose, and all of a sudden they could put the fence back together. So the key was to stop it before it got underway, with a message being sent There'll be
harsh consequences for your behavior, and the message went out. Plus, there weren't nearly the number it was taught to be one hundred thousand, and some of the numbers I heard it was like twenty thousand. Is that correct protesters?
Yeah, I mean it wasn't even close to one hundred thousand. And I have to believe that a number of them were scared off from even coming there, because when you would go downtown around Michigan Avenue, once you got within three or four blocks of where the DNC was being held or Michigan Avenue, it was unlike anything I've ever seen here where there were two cops walking shoulder to shoulder on every sidewalk. Every which way you would look.
There were cop cars with their lights on good every four way stop up Michigan Avenue, and this is just all things that had never been seen before. And you know, people are now shaking their head saying, why don't we have this all the time?
Why don't we do that? For the George Floyd riots, for example, and which one hundred American cities were burned, forty five people were killed, billions dollars worth of damage. And the reason is Tim Waltz and others kind of wanted to open up the windows and smell the aroma of the riots, of the burning tires and the businesses. Is if America, But what if Chicago had this approach on a regular basis when the so called George Floyd riots took place? Wouldn't there been a different outcome?
You would certainly think so. And basically here in Chicago, there's there's four neighborhoods where the majority of the violence takes place. And if you had these two cops walking shoulder to shoulder everywhere there, if you had the police cruiser presence, I don't think we would see that. And the interesting part is the individuals I know, individuals that live in those areas or have lived in those areas, and people that have they're all saying, don't why haven't
we had this? That's kind of like the hangover of everything now from the DNC that everyone's obviously glad to have the KOs out.
I would imagine if you go into those three or four zip codes on the South side of Chicago where most of the murderers, drug dealing robberies take place, which make it unlivable, if for a thirty six to day periods Chicago spent the money necessary to patrol those zip codes like they patrolled in and around the DNC, you'd have a different outcome. But for some reason, Chicago won't do it, and many American cities won't do it.
Yeah, I think it's something that it's the R and C the Trump campaign could easily capitalize on by making an issue of this and shining a light on it, because people here are certainly talking about it now.
And as we sit here Sunday night, if you would drive down Mondyer Tuesday to Michigan Avenue around the water Tower, what do you see four or five days after the convention? What's commerce like? How safe is it? How much economic activity is going on? Well, if you would go down Mondyar Tuesday, what would you find.
Well, I went down Saturday and it was all gone.
It was all gone.
There's on Michigan Avenue. Now there's the standard, one top car on the north end, one top car on the south end. People have returned to the West Loop, which is the area around where the DNC is being held by the United Center. I'd gone out and had lunch there on I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, and the population after these restaurants was probably down to about thirty percent. And once all this ended, everybody just came
back immediately. But again, the two by twos that you saw everywhere, the police patrols, all of that gone immediately.
Well, maybe the Oprah Winfrey draw us a different level of protection than some African American women would draw on the South side of Chicago. Who makes our community unlivable? Chris, thanks for calling back in. I appreciate it. Keep listening, and thanks for what you do as a great American. Chris. Thank you God blessure. Let's continue with more. Let's go to Ken in California. Ken in California, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Ken, How are you?
Thank you?
Can you hear me? I can hear you? Well, no, hearry quite well.
Fantastic.
Yeah, I'm very concerned about what happened last time when the vote kind was shut down for two hours and then the tide changed.
I vow to shut things down.
For two hours this time.
If they do shut down the vote count for two hours this time, I will not accept the results because the media is a known enemy of the Trump campaign and Americans deserve a vote count that is not interrupted.
I mean, unless this is secure, our elections are not secure.
And you know, Ken, I hear as much from Democrats. Remember democrats. Hillary Clinton said that Trump was not a legitimate president. Bill Clinton said not legitimate. Most African American leadership that don't represent black folks anyway, said that he's not a legitimate president and is part and parcel of the Democrats not to accept the outcome of elections not their way, and so I think both individuals. I have
little confidence we're going to get an accurate account. The states are sadly, Ohio doesn't matter where I live because it's Trump country. California doesn't matter because that's that's that your state's lost. It's only about six or seven states that matter, and that's where the resources have got to be spent. And I just hope that in the so called three Blue Wall Upper and Midwest states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, throw in Georgia, North Carolina, Nevada, throw in Arizona, and
that's going to be the election. And it doesn't take that much. According to Lord Trump, they have one hundred and fifty thousand poll watchers in those states. You don't need pole watchers in California, right. I don't need a pole watcher in Ohio. But in California, California's what sex electoral votes are already done gone and the only people
you can vote for a Democrats. Republicans can't get elected despite the disaster the California is Do you have confidence, Ken that this is going to be an accurate count in California or does it matter?
Well, honest to God, Trump is right when he says Kamala is a Marxist communist. And I want to impress upon your listeners just how energetic and real this communist infiltration into what politics is and has been for decades. And our FBI and the CIA and the media are all in on it. I mean, George Bush called it the new World Order. We are being taken over and the reason they hate Trump is because he stands in
their way. And I want to say one thing. I don't think that the Democrats are buying Kamala Harris's pitch at that convention. Those placards, they were all given the hoole versus Billius trees on the forest, there was no energy, and it's becau She's promising to fix what she and Joe broke. Who's going to believe that pitch?
Well, I want to share with you a column about how this is out of newsmax dot com. The headline is Iran once Trump killed by election day And I read this column. The Islamic regime in Iran is trying to assassinate former President Donald Trump, with hopes of doing so before November fifth, or certainly by the inaugural if he wins. Multiple governmental agencies associated with US allies across the Middle East have informed of the danger. The Iranian regime is made it clear that once get rid of
Trump by any means necessary. And so when you look at what's against Donald Trump, he's got Iran, which is a nation with cruise missiles, drone technologies. North Korea loves Kamala Harris being in charge, as does Russia, as does China, as does NATO, as does most of Europe, as does most of the alphabet soup agencies. The leadership, maybe not the rank and file, but the forces a raid against
Donald Trump that won him dead are unbelievable. And I've seen reports of rider trucks fifteen miles from a place where Donald Trump is loaded with Iranian drones that they can send dozens toward Donald Trump, and there's not much anybody can do to stop it. And I'm thinking, are you kidding me?
A thing?
The answer is not a thing I noticed.
Go, yeah, that's another thing.
I noticed.
His bulletproof shield is not enough because you can still get drones through and get made through. Sure, even the platform needs to be protected. And if you realize there's been a cover up on this assassination attempt, Crooks allegedly was visiting DC several times in a building next to the FBI office in the weeks before it happened, and you only heard that report once on TV and then it was shut up. So I think Joe Biden was behind that attempt, and most of Americans do think with Joel.
Well, how about a nineteen year old loser living literally in his parents' basement that has encrypted accounts in at least three foreign countries. I don't know. I don't have encrypted accounts. I don't think you do. But can you imagine a nineteen year old with encrypted accounts in three overseas nations? Why and they can't crack the code? I like to know who he communicated with, who paid him,
and how did he get to that site? Why did the Secret Service all of a sudden go amnesia, and why they lie to the Butler County officials backwards and forwards? And they knew he was there, and they almost opened up a door for him to walk in to shoot Donald Trump, and except for a half an inch, he'd be dead. And now you got Iran telling the world we're going to kill Donald Trump. And it's like, are you kidding me? And no, And if you have an RPG or a drone, that's not going to protect Donald Trump.
But like he says, you know, it's almost fedalistic. He said, it's my job to campaign, and I can't stop campaigning even though I have Secret Service protection. He says, is now as good as Biden's Secret Service protection. I doubt that, by the way, but nonetheless I think he's in mortal danger. And I don't know what to say about it other than well, you're in mortal danger. And the guy fight, fight, fight,
keeps on keeping on. Let's continue. We have thousands on hold coming up later, a couple of topics in the Middle East. One of the ones I'm looking forward to is interviewing Seth Frontzman wrote the defendive work on October the seventh, the massacre. We're going to try to connect with him. He's in Israel, and we have the number also later on as Will Scarf, who is the personal attorney for Donald Trump, where the cases now stand, and also Pastor Mark Built from the state of Washington, and more.
And I thought tonight, I pray to God I'm wrong about this, but the goal of the Islamic's extremists is simply to bleed Israel to death over time. Let it collapse. When Israel's got the ability now to take out the head of the snake and refuses to do so because it would anger Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, Let's continue with more. Forty nine minutes after the hour, Bill Cunningham the Great American with you every Sunday night. And you know,
kind of an unrelated matter. A few days ago, I spoke to my friend and your Sean Hannity about what's happening in England, what's happening in Europe relative to free speech. And as you know, there's no First Amendment guarantee of free speech in England, in Scotland, in Ireland, or in Europe. They've begun arresting individuals who say things that the federal allies in each country consider to be quote, hate speech.
And now many are calling for the arrest of Elon Musk, as well as the cancel of X, a social media site that he owns, because there may be individuals on X who say things that could be determined to be a hate speech or calling into question someone's political viewpoints, which is not protected whatsoever in England or in Europe. And of course this broadcast is heard in Europe, and what's happening on X can be seen and heard in
Europe individuals who travel there. There's a hit list in Europe of Americans who may come there or may not have to come there to be arrested. They may ask for the arrest of Sean Hannity for saying things he should not be saying. Maybe my arrest or maybe the arrest of Chris Cuomo or other individuals whose shows can be heard through the Internet of information that could be
considered hate speech against an Islamist. Things came to a head when the three little girl were murdered at Taylor Swift themed dance on July twenty ninth in Southport, England, and many thereafter when after Islamic terrorists. Don't see anything bad against an Islamic terrorist, and if you do, you're subject to arrest. One person was sentenced to three years in English prisons for calling Islamic terrorists blood thirsty murderers.
I guess I just did some, not all. Most in America do not hold the views of the leadership in Iran. They hold the views of the leadership in Saudi Arabia, which is more or less a functioning part of the Middle East, unlike the Hespalah in Lebanon, or the Hamas in Gaza, or the Isis in Syria and Iraq, and the Islamic leadership of Iran which want to take the world back to the seventh century. And so when one travels.
You have to be aware of where you're going. And the left leaning media in political intelligentsia and most of Europe claimed that the unrest was caused by quote right wing activist using social media to miss him to spread misinformation about the knife attack. And there was another knife attack yesterday. Maybe you're going to call for knife control, maybe a three day waiting period before you get a knife.
But fore warned is forearmed. This is unbelievable. I think to an extent Europe might be lost and America cannot follow that path. Let's continue with more. Coming up later will be Pastor Mark Built of the State of Washington, and also the attorney for Donald Trump, Will Scarf, talking about the various cases against him, and also Seth Frontzman live from Israel to talk about the October seventh massacre. Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all other great Americans every Sunday.
Night, Willie.
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Bill Cunning in the Grand American. Of course, what's happening in the Middle East is the tale that wigs the entire dog. The world is consumed with the Middle East, and it's the side of the only participatory democracy in the Middle East, which is Israel. They're fighting for the literal existence. I've read stuff out of the Middle East. It seems to indicate that the peace treaty will not be accepted by Hamas because Hamas wants war. Hamas does
not want peace. If Moss has peats that it gets read of their purpose to exist, which is to kill Jews and kill Westerners. And one of the great secrets of the Middle East is that there's a large chunk of it that wants Iran to completely go away. In MBS, who is the leader now of Saudi Arabia and the head of the Sunni branch of Islam is one individual that wants the existence of Iran to be wiped off the face of the earth. And what's happening there God
only knows. But Pastor Mark Bilts from the State of Washington has a column up about the pursuit of the Grand Bargain with the US and Israel and what's going to happen now and in the future. And Mark Bilts, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Mark, I have your column in front of me here. Can you give me an overview of what you see and how possibly the assassination of the leader of Saudi Arabia may play into all of it?
Well, what people be to understand in Islam there are basically two factions, the Sunnies and the Sheites.
The shea Heites are.
Like direct this of Mohammad, whereas the Sunnis are descendants from his military as generals, and Iran is Khite in Saudi Arabia are suns. So you know, in one sense they've always agreed to kill Israel, but when they're done, they kill each other. They can't stay with each other, and this is why the Kihites want to kill Uh. You know, maybe yes, but the thing is this, It's also we have to understand radical Islam and how that's different from normal Islam as well.
Correct And on that point, I often make the point that in America, as far as American Muslims, I cannot recall any significant terrorist acts committed by American Muslims inside of America who've been here for a long time. I live in Little Cincinnati, Ohio. You're in the state of Washington. There's a couple hundred thousand Muslim Islamists that live within the sound of my voice in the Midwest. They go to school, they form family structures, they participate. And so
this is about generally the shiahs in Iran. And can you imagine your your religious leader, Reverend Mark Bilts, that that if you would preach it is time to kill the infidel, it is time to rape the infidel, it is time to behead the infidel. And that is a branch of Islam that we find hard to believe it exists, but it's taken over a chunk of the world. So what is the goal? Look, you brought this up briefly.
What is the goal of Iran ultimately? And you might include in that Siria might include the other shiah maybe Iran Iraq. What is their goal ultimately relative to Israel and the West. What is their goal?
Well, they want to bring in their Mahdi or their Messiah, and they believe that he comes when they take upon the responsibility of wiping out Israel. What makes the radical radical a century of goal, Islam was very submissive. But what happened and what makes the radical radical was that.
While normal Islam said everything's.
Up to Allah, and therefore if the colonialists are wiping us out, then we need to submit.
But the radicalist said, no, it's not up to Allah. It's up to us.
And that is why they even killed Saddat Okay of Egypt, and that's why they're going after the head of Saudi Arabia because they believe if anyone is secular, even with Islam, they need to.
Be wiped out.
And so their ultimate goal, and that's what people need to understand is jihad in order to bring in their Messiah.
And going back to anwar Sadat, he signed a peace treaty with with Israel, and the Jews knock and began he was wine dined in pocket line. Okay, we finally have peace in the Middle East, and the Shia that the branch of Islam does not want peace. They will not accept peace, and so they sent a hit squad during a military parade in Cairo to kill nwar Sadat quite successful and the country almost turned the radical Islam
but did not. And so long term, and I'm going to get you because you're a great historian on this regard, I don't think Iran is going to directly confront Israel to such an extent that would cause a massive response. I think what they want to do over the next five, ten, fifteen, twenty years is simply bleed Israel dry, to make sure they do not have funding, they don't have an economy, and then slowly but surely incrementally kill the Jew Do
you see it that way? Or do they want to directly attack Israel that would invoke a huge response.
What do you say, Mark, I say they're waiting for a nuclear bomb. That's what they're waiting on. So they don't want to be attacked right now at all.
Like you said, they definitely are waiting. I read an article where they're worried that Hesbela may attack not being under their authority or direction. Right so there, you know, and what says they want to wipe is all off the map.
But they always played the long game. They always do, Like you said, they always play the long game.
But once they have a nuclear capability, that'll make a big difference. What the audience needs to understand is the three stages of g hod among the radical Islamists. The first stage is the ghart of the hand.
Go and cut the head off the Infidel.
If they can't do that because they're not as strong as the Infidel, you know, the next thing they do is ghart of the mouth, where they preach.
It like you see protests, They protest and do all this kind of thing to stir up everybody.
And if they can't do the Ght of the mouth, they do the Ght of the heart, where they go and plan like they plan for nine to eleven. They get, they assimilate, and they study, they go to Western universities, they learn everything they can, and then as soon as they're ready, like nine to eleven, then they go to Jihat of the hand again.
And I believe we really.
Are right now about at the Jihat of the hand here in the United States, and we're going to see terrorist attacks right here.
Well, much like nine to eleven. It crystallized it. And looking at this long term Israel under the leadership of the current leader, and that's the strongest one they've had in a long time, and that is he wants to respond. The Prime Minister now of Israel says he wants to do three things, which makes a lot of sense. And Netanyahu has told the Cabinet. According to US senator who's whispered in my ear, he wants to do three things.
Number One, he wants to take out the three oil exporting export facilities in Iran, which would take out their economy and they couldn't rebuild those things with conventional weapons for many years. Secondly, there are two large dams north of Tehran that controls the water system for most of Iran. He wants to blow up the dam. And Thirdly, he wants to take out the power grid to take Iran almost back to the Middle Ages, and he wants to
demonstrate Israeli power Refort's too late. He's been restrained in doing that by Joe Biden, who's got early onset rigamortis, and he doesn't he doesn't allow Israel to win the war. They have a war against them starting October seventh that could take away their existence. And right now NETANYAHUO understands that he wants to respond with that. From your perspective, that would go to the head of the snake that funds hesbla Hamas, the Hoodies and the two D's and
funds of the Islamic extremists. Well, is that an approach that should happen, should happen with or without Joe Biden's permission before it's too late.
Absolutely? Absolutely.
I don't think Israel should have America's permission or anything when it comes to.
Their livelihood at all.
And I think those three things would be the best three things, and they could do it preemptively as well.
Well, he wants to, but he's told if I America not to do it. And one can only imagine if this election goes to the radical leftists from the state of California. I can only imagine if Kamala Harris is elected to the presidency and she's got a four to eight year run, what does that mean for the nation of Israel.
Total destructure in for America as well. I'll tell you what. I'm just going to put out a little bet here, but I would not be surprised if after this convention, within a few weeks, they make Kamla president and move Biden out, so she has a little bit a month or so of being a president and Trump has to go against her as an incumbent.
I've said that recently that his appearance of the DNC was so bad, yelling and screaming. I'm sure it was late at night. You probably didn't see it, but it was so bad that that guy is unhinged, and the idea I don't think it'll happen unless in September October,
after the September debate. If she loses that debate appears to be a clown, which of course she is, there'll be a movement in a week or two thereafter to have under the twenty fifth Amendment of Joe Biden's stepped down now and put Kamala Harrison there making address in the Oval office. Do a couple of things right to take down Donald Trump, who's the only presidential president's candidate
in history that has Jewey's grandchildren. And so I agree with you Mark Bilts, that could easily happen because they cannot let Donald Trump become the president. In fact, I read a story out of the New York Times recently in which they said all of Europe and China, and all of North Korea and all of the Middle East, and of course most of most of South America does not want Donald Trump to be the president. His policies on the border is not favored by Central or South America.
Is economic policies are not favored by China. And I would point out that that the report out of the House Impeachment Committee said that the Bidens received twenty million dollars from wire transfers from Chinese interest, part of which went to Joe Biden. Now that was lost in the last few days of all the stuff going on with
the convention, et cetera. But we had a report that indicated that Joe Biden is dirty, that he's received millions and millions of dollars directly and then directly from the Chinese. The Chinese want Kamala Harris Harris, the Russians want Kamala Harris, NATO wants Kamala Harris, Central and South America wants Kamala Harris, the news media wants Kamala Harris, and then none of them want Donald Trump. I fear another assassination attempt against
Donald Trump. It's amazing the first one didn't work. Do you fear for the health of Donald Trump over the next several weeks.
Oh, I will certainly do and I would not be surprised if it shows in the polls Trump is gonna win by a landslide. They definitely will try to assassinate him, or they.
Will have another COVID experience or plague or something happening, so there isn't an election, and that I believe is going to cause total chaos because if there is no election or they're mail in ballots and total fraud, you know it will be civil war here in the United States.
And lastly, you have this column about MBS, who controls Saudi Arabia, and you have a question here, what were the relations like between Saudi Arabia and Iran the head of the Snake before MBS took over, and what is it now? So tell the American people about that.
Well, before they couldn't stand Saudi Arabia because they were Sunni and they were sea I. But since he took over, now he is secular more than Islamic, just.
Like Sadat, and he wants to make peace with Israel.
This is huge.
This is why they definitely want to take him out. He's trying to build that city neo and get all kinds of visitors to come, and he's.
Making it as far as they're concerned, more pagan and so now they definitely want to take out Saudi Arabia because at the same time they want their Messiah to come and they believe they bring them by bringing total destruction.
So really Iran and that she has want to do to MBS the same they did to Anwar Sadat, which is kill him because they perceive and really they care more about Saudi Arabia than Egypt because that's the side of Mecca and Medina and those are the holyest sites in Islam and they think NBS has defiled the most sacred sites of Islam.
Correct, exactly, exactly, and they want to make peace with Israel.
What could be worse, Well, they were close until October the seventh. I mean, that was something that Trumpster wanted and he had a deal on the table to mainstream relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, cut her United Arab Membirates, et cetera. And that is something Iran. It's amazing to me that all these forces are a raid against Donald Trump and he's still leading a lot of the polls.
And Iran came to life after Barack Hussein Obama took off the sanctions and allowed them to develop nuclear weapons. And then Trump took over for those four years, and that was a speed bump to Iran. And now we're back. If Kamala Harris wins the presidency, that means Iran will once again be in charge. But Mark Bilts, how can the American people get some information about you? Is there a website?
Our website ESM dot us, and I have a books talking about what we're talking about out.
My latest book is America at War.
You can get it on Amazon or at our website ESM dot us.
And as you say, we have all the terrorists inside this country. We have hundreds of known terrorists released by Biden and Harris into the country. They're all over the place waiting to march, and they may wait until after the election because they may figure politically if America is in complete turmoil, well, because the policies of Kamala Harris that they may vote for Donald Trump. And Iran does not want Donald Trump. Russia doesn't want Donald Trump, China
doesn't want Donald Trump. The NATO Alliance is none of those countries that they like a left wing socialist. They don't want Donald Trump. So they may wait until after the election, because it happens before the election, wouldn't it benefit Donald Trump?
Well, I think what may happen in all of the chaos if we don't have an election, That's when China would attack Taiwan. That's when North Korea would attack South Korea, has Below would attack Israel. And there's no way the United States could take all of that on with Ukraine and Russia situation, and it will be total chaos.
Well, all right, Mark built Biltz from the state of Washington. Once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and Reverend we'll do it again. Thank you very much.
Well, thank you, Bill.
All right, let's continue with more The Great American with you every Sunday night. You know the routine. All if a line becomes a D eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning into Great American with you every Sunday night, Billy cunning into the Great American. Of course, Mark Biltz knows the bodies are buried, so to speak. Israel's in a terrible position tonight as they were twenty four hours ago. It looked as if it
was on between Hesbelah and Israel. There were some two hundred rockets, guided missiles and other armaments sent from Hesbela in the northern Israel and beyond the Hafa and guess what ninety five percent were taken out. One can only imagine if they had sent something in the range of twenty thousand or one hundred thousand, what would have occurred. Probably not good. And once again Israel showed great restraint.
I could not imagine any other country facing for the past almost one year a terrible war conducted by bloodthirsty killers and murderers on the north, the South and the east, and refraining themselves from adequately responding and ending the war in their favor. No other country except Israel could do it. Israel's the only country in the face of the earth has not permitted to win a war you can't win because the forces in America and in Europe will work
hard to make sure you don't win. And then thirty little secret is that most of the Arab war that are Sunnis, like Saudi Arabia, cutter United Arab Emirates, would like an end of Iran and their policies of hate. Look what Hesbelah has done in Lebanon, beag Root used to be the Paris of the Middle East, of functioning more or less democracy with a middle class. Now Hesbela
has completely destroyed Levin, it doesn't exist anymore. In the South, of course, the Hoodies have destroyed Yemen, and of course Hamas has destroyed the Gaza's strip completely. And in Afghanistan once again extreme Islamist the Taliban have destroyed Afghanistan. And in fact, everywhere I look, Iran has been destroyed by the Shia mullahs her bloodthirsty murderers. Everywhere this corrosive atmosphere exists.
The country doesn't exist anymore. It's reverting back to the seventh or eighth century and United Air memorates and Cutter and Saudi Arabia would like Israel to launch on Iran to the head of the snake, but for reasons unclear to many, it does not happen. It does not occur. So we'll see what happens down the road. But the only way to have this matter resolved, to have it resolved in the matter of Israel, is to take out, through non nuclear means, the important aspects of the Iranian
economy and tell them that's it. Anymore. It'll get worse enough better, so let's stay tuned for more. Will Sharf is the private attorney for Donald Trump. He was the winner before the US Supreme Court a couple of months ago, and I thought it'd be good to have on Donald Trump's attorney to talk about the various buckets in which Donald Trump may find himself once he's elected to the presidency.
The line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning and the Great American with you, every single Bill cunning in the Great America. And one of Donald Trump's great personal civil slash criminal attorneys is Will Scarf. He's been out it for many years and I've seen him in many of the cable shows and honor to have him with us now. And
Will Scarf, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's talk first of all about these allegations that the Supreme Court decision about a month or so ago would allow any president to act in a criminal, reckless fashion without consequence. Can you give us an overview of the three buckets? So to speak? The US Supreme Court said, in which your president's operates with absolute immunity or presumptive immunity or no immunity, Please inform the American people.
Sure.
So it's important to understand the backdrop of the Supreme Court's presidential immunity opinion, which is a case from nineteen eighty two to nineteen eighty three called Nixon v.
Fitzgerald.
In that case, the Court said that in the civil context, a president has absolute immunity from civil suit for any act that fall within the outer perimeter of his responsibilities as president. That's to ensure that after a president leaves off, as private parties can't just sue a president over decisions that he made that they may not have liked. That's
been the law for decades. All we were really asking the Supreme Court to do in Trump the United States was to apply a similar standard in the criminal context. For obvious reasons, you can't end up with a situation where the day any president leaves office, any hostile prosecutor can attempt to indict him over his official acts in office. And the Supreme Court largely agreed with us. So, as you said, they separated a president's conduct into three different buckets.
First for purely private conduct, for acts that a president takes that really have nothing to do with his status as president.
The Court held that there's no immunity at all.
So one historical example of that that actually came up during briefing is the fact that Ulysses S. Grant was ticketed while he was president for illegally carriage racing in Washington, DC. So in that it's sort of like the drag racing of the eighteen hundreds. In that case that purely private conduct, immunity doesn't apply. A president would be susceptible to prosecution
for that the day that he leaves office. The at the absolute core of presidential power in in areas where a president's authority is not checkable by Congress, where a president has absolute authority under the Constitution. In contrast, the Supreme Court said that a president has absolute immunity. So an example of that would be the this is raised in the Supreme Court's opinion, a president's power to appoint or dismiss office office.
Holders that that that serve at his pleasure.
That's the core constitutional function of the presidency. Absolute immunity applies with respect to to the sort of the middle category of activities. Then, that's activities that fall within the outer perimeter of a president's responsibilities but aren't within that
core inalienable article to presidential power bucket. The Court said that there's a presumption of immunity, that there's a rebuttable presumption that a president has immunity, but that that presumption can be rebutted if you show that the president acted so far outside the scope of his presidential duties that
these really weren't presidential acts. So that's the system that the Supreme Courts set up, and it's actually a very carefully balanced system that we were very happy with and that I believe will do a lot both to protect the power of the presidency and the institution of the presidency in the years ahead, and also just clarify the law around when and how a president can be held criminally responsible for his various acts while he's in office.
So if a president, say Joe Biden, orders that withdraw from Afghanistan and thirteen brave American soldiers are killed or murdered by suicide bombers, that is a core constitutional responsibility as commander in chief. So even if Joe Biden might be criminally negligent or recklessly negligent for his behavior, he can't be prosecuted while in office or after leaving office.
On the other hand, if Joe Biden or the next president would sneak out of the office at nine and rob a bank, that is not a core duty, that is not presumed, that is something completely outside, he can be criminally prosecuted after he leaves office. The second bucket is presumed rebuttable. So in the criminal cases involving Jack Smith, he's got one in DC, which relates to January the sixth, He's got one in Florida relating to mar A Lago.
And I would assume if it's a federal cases, then one must have a hearing to determine whether or not pre trial, which even is is admissible, and which even is not admissible, And then the three buckets must be pulled out and saying okay, and mar Lago, it's a core presidential responsibility in the Presidential Records Act to do
and not do certain things. And I would think in mar Lago and in the Washington, DC case, even though Chunkin, the judge in Washington seems to want to proceed quickly, must she have an evidence You're hearing to determine what witnesses can testify and which witnesses cannot testify, and what that tank both cases.
So, first of all, Mar a Lago the documents case has now been dismissed on the grounds that jack Smith is unconstitutionally appointed and funded. Jack Smith's going to appeal that up to the Eleventh Circuit. That process is going to take a while. But those constitutional issues with Jacksmith's appointment are very serious, and Justice Thomas actually raised those in his concurrence in our presidential immunity case. With respect
to DC. The Supreme Court's actually very clear here, and this is something that caught kind of the mainstream media by surprise, although we always anticipated it would be a major issue. The Supreme Court said that even in a prosecution for non immune conduct, So even if you're attempting to prosecute a president for his private conduct, you cannot use as evidence immune acts acts for which a president
has immunity. So in DC, even though jack Smith may argue that this was private conduct not official conduct, that doesn't mean that he can use evidence of official conduct.
To support his case.
So the Supreme Court, for.
Example, said that President Trump considering replacing the leadership at the Department of Justice to investigate election fraud or ordering the Department of Justice to investigate election fraud. That would be conduct for which he's absolutely immune, and therefore that
conduct can't form part of Jack Smith's case in DC. Similarly, public statements that the President made other acts that underlie that DC indictment, the Supreme Court said or subject to presumptive immunity, and therefore they cannot be used as evidence in that DC prosecution all going to have to get worked out by Judge Chuckkin before this case proceeds to trial, and the timeline for that.
Seems to continue to elongate.
We were expecting, yeah, five twenty six, who knows a long time.
We were expecting a hearing, at least an initial hearing in the middle of this month that's now been pushed off. I think DOJ is very confused as to how to proceed here. And certainly, if President Trump wins in November, which I believe he will, by the time he takes office in January, this case will not have been anywhere close to trial, will not even be near that stage.
One of Trump's attorney's roll scarf. Let's move on to Judge one Mrshawn who's held been and sentencing the President, I think to prison, and the motions have been filed to dismiss the case and to accuse himself because Judge Marshawn's daughter has made tens of millions of dollars and trolling around liberal donors to donate to various Democratic candidates. But nonetheless, there were several witnesses who worked in the White House with the President that testified in the state
case involving Judge Murshon. Wouldn't their testimony necessarily need to be excluded? And how can you proceed to sentencing when the trial itself is so tainted.
So this is an argument that we now have before Judge Murshon, and it's important to understand the context. We knew that the presidential immunity issue was before the Supreme Court long before this New York case came to trial. In fact, oral argument in DC was conducted while trial was ongoing in New York.
We'd asked for this.
Case to be continued, to be pushed off until we knew what the Supreme Court was going to do on
presidential immunity. The District Attorney's office and the judge in New York, Judge Marshon rejected that attempt, and now they've created a real pickle for themselves because introduced that trial evidence that is clearly presidential conduct that is clearly subject to the Supreme Court's presidential immunity opinion, and unwinding that unringing that bell, as we believe now essentially impossible, we've moved to essentially overturn this whole case, the whole verdict here,
the trial verdict on the basis of presidential immunity that they relied on evidence that they simply couldn't.
Have relied on.
But it's just important to note that the thing that created this problem for them was their haste and the fact that they desperately wanted to get this case to trial as quickly as possible, I believe for political reasons. So now that's an issue that's going to be litigated
in front of Judge Murcham. Typically, decisions on immunity are immediately appealable, so I would argue that if Judge murchaon rules against this on immunity, we would have the right to appeal that decision potentially all the way up to the US Supreme Court before sentencing an before a final judgment could be entered in that case. That's an issue we're going to have to litigate in the coming weeks.
The key dates to remember are September sixteenth, which is when we're expecting a ruling from judgementshon on this immunity issue, and then September eighteenth, which is the scheduled sentencing date, although September eighteenth may end up getting pushed off. If we succeed at all on this immunity issue.
You have to exhaust your state remedy. So on that issue, you have to go to the district and you have to go from the trial court to the first appela Court, then to the so called Supreme Court in New York, which is called the Court of Appeals. Then you've got to go to federal court. Isn't your best shot in federal court? Wouldn't that take weeks to get there? On the immunity issue.
I mean, there are always ways to expedite appeals and to seek emergency relief. It really just depends on how Judge Murchon decides.
To deal with this case.
We've obviously had a lot of success in the federal system for President Trump. We've won a number of cases at the US Supreme Court just this year, and then obviously having that case in Florida dismissed outright was a big victory for us as well. We've also had some successes in the New York appellate system, though the New York Appellate Division was actually pretty good to us. During the Tiss James New York Civil case, that was the purported civil fraud case that the New York AG's Office
brought against us. We won four or five victories in front of the Appellate Division there, and we have that case up on appeal now in full. So I'm hopeful that fair judges will see this case, We'll see the issues here, and will rule the way that they should.
Well. Lastly, Will Scarf, attorney for Donald Trump, Let's say, on the sixteenth of September, about about a month, three and a half, four weeks away, he brushes aside the important issues of immunity that doesn't apply in this case. Obviously it does. He then proceeds a sentence sing two days later. And at that point I've said before that he's going to sentence him to prison. So let's say the worst possible thing happens. He brushes aside where Shawn
brushes aside they bring us Supreme Court. He then says, we're preceding a sentencing, and he actually sends him to a sing sing or to Rikers Island. What do you do then?
Well, I can't betray litigation strategy here, but I will say that we would plan to vigorously and quickly challenge any denial of.
Our rights under the.
Supreme Court's immunity decision, and we will also quickly and vigorously challenge any sentence imposed, whether it's a sentence of incarceration or probation or anything like that, because we believe that that decision in New York, that the jury verdict was deeply viled of President Trump's rights, and it's just
simply unsustainable on appeal. So we are going to continue fighting like hell for President Trump because he's always fought for us, and we believe the law is on our here and that ultimately justice will win in this case.
Will Scarf, you're doing the lord's work out there, and hopefully Judge Marshaan will say, you know what, this whole case was intertwined with presidential activities, with testimony, the indictment phase, and the grand jury and then at the pet at the trial stage, it was interspersed constantly with White House personnel that testified, which at a minimum was presumed rebuttable. It was presumed he had presidential immunity, which was rebuttable.
And he never conducted those hearings because the case did not exist from the Supreme Court when the trial took place. And you try to stop this until the Supreme Court ruled, and of course that would not happen because Mrshawn and the Democrats were held bent on getting that felony conviction, so they can start yelling and screaming about a convicted felon, convicted, fell and convicted felon irrespect of the facts. I'm confident, as a great American that you're going to win this case.
And I pray to God the Lord's paying attention and brings peace to the land. And then once again, will scarf on a I've seen you repeatedly on cable, one of the great attorneys for Donald Trump. Good luck and God speed. Do you have any questions for me? Possibly? And the rule in Shelley's case are possibly the rule against perpetuities.
No, no, I appreciate it. It's sharp by the way, but I really appreciate you having me on, and it's been a lot of fun talking about all this.
Joe was soon turn it down to a sharp thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. May God bless you and God bless America. Thank you very much, God bless you. Bill. Thank you. Well, let's continue with more and we'll see what happens. But they tried to stop the New York case because there was a pending matter before the United States Supreme Court and this local little trial court in New York City. Marshawn said no, now, now I'm going to proceed with the trial.
And now he stepped in it because he put on a lowed witnesses to testify that should not have testified because of the US Supreme Court case. Can you smell what I'm cooking? Bill cunning in the Grand American live with you every Sunday night. Why let's continue to help Bill Cunningham the Great America. Good to hear from Attorney Will Sharf, who knows legally and won the cases. This guy is brilliant. He's running for the Attorney general's position
in Missouri. If by the ability to move there and vote for Will I would do it at a heartbeat. Every time he gets on the case, whether it's CNN or he doesn't get on MSNBC, then'll allow such things or Fox News. The guy makes a lot of sense. And the four cases against Donald Trump, as he said, are all falling apart because of the June decision by the United States Supreme Court. The three buckets seemed to indicate that the New York case is also gone on appeal.
At trial, there were White House testimonies from individuals working in the executive branch of government over the objection of Donald Trump. And so you can't have a situation where White House personnel are forced to testify under the weight of a subpoena against an acting president pursuing to the
new rulings of the US Supreme Court. At the end of June, so the New York case is gone, the federal cases cannot proceed, and since Trump's going to win the presidency, he's going to order those to be dismissed anyway. And the only case remaining is the one in Fulton County, Atlanta,
which is a joke by itself. You can't have a case where the federal prosecutors meet up with the state prosecutors in the White House talking about strategy, the object of which is to make sure the President Donald Trump has a felony conviction in the twenty twenty four election. That thing was a farce from the get go, made
no sense at all. And hopefully Fanny Willison her lover boy will receive their just deserts from the Disciplinary Council in the State of Georgia, which I think they probably will. Let's continue with more. One of the columns I like to read quite often is Ryan Walker of Heritage Action
of the Heritage Foundation. They've got great columns up about what's happening and after the conclusion of the Democratic National love fest on Thursday night, and looking ahead, where we go from here and where we go from here is the ability of the mainstream media to be quiet and to shut up as much as possible, to make sure that the truth about Kamala Harris is not known to
the average low information voter. That's the goal. It works with Obama in eight it worked with Biden not coming out of the basement in twenty twenty, and will it work now? I have my doubts because We're almost at the end of the month. He's given no shall we say interview, and every policy prescription she has that ails the American economy makes things much worse. And so from there, I don't know. Can she get away with it? Well, Biden got away with it and Obama got away with it.
Can she get away with it? My answer is yes, I'll just continue with more. Ryan Walker calling to him next to the line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham with you every seay.
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Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the conventions are now Don Finney and looking forward to a Labor Day. But then after that, September tenth comes rather quickly, and allegedly a Kamala Harris is going on a news conference and or an interview sometime by the end of the month, which would be which I don't think is going to happen, but nonetheless we'll see what occurs. But joining you and I now is Ryan Walker of Heritageackson, Executive vice President
of Heritageackson and Ryan Walker. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Ryan, for those who may be uninitiated, can you tell the American people what is Harety's action and what does this seek to do? If anything?
Thanks for having me on and it's great to be with you tonight.
Yes.
Heritage Acson is a grassroots organization that is an issue advocacy organization in Washington, d C. Connected with the Heritage Foundation, advocating for conservative policy solutions at both the cederal and state level.
Let's talk about one thing, which is price controls. About a week or ten days ago before the convention, Kamala Harris, after quite a bit of consternation, came out with one policy prescription for what ails this great country of ours,
and that was price controls. I can only imagine those manipulating her thought that would be a great idea, including Bernie Sanders, and so she had a serious talk in which she actually said that price controls, which has caused shortages and non existent merchandise and countries all over the world,
should be tried here in America. And this wasn't some flip and comment that this was a policy decision that she and her advisors thought long and hard about a crating and she wanted to tell the American people, you put me in power, We're going to make America look like Venezuela. Can you tell the American people first and foremost, what happens if there's a wage and price controls on products and what does that do to it does to the consumer?
Well, absolutely, this is it's ridiculous that she put this plan out, and I think it's been exposed since then and will continue to be. Price controls do nothing more than than destroy the producer, the farmer, the person at the bottom of the food chain producing everything that's stored on those food shelves that she supposedly wants to protect. The plan would do nothing more than increased prices and produce scarcity, which is the complete opposite of what this country needs.
It's worked nowhere. In fact, Rodney McMullin, the CEO of Kroger, who's a friend of mine related that the typical large Kroger store has about one hundred and fifty thousand individual products, and each product is based upon the cost of Kroger
of buying that product. I don't care if it's a widget, a pound of hamburger, if it's celfhane wrap, whatever you buy a Kroger, there's seven to eight to nine individuals and companies below the point at which you buy the product, and all the way from the rancher to the chicken producer to the celofhane rentals wrap, whatever product you make. Along the way, it was the manufacturer, of the distributor, the creator, it's the warehouse men, it's all their costs.
By the time to get the product to put on the shelf, there's seven to ten individuals and companies that I've already been paid to create that product. So to say at the end of the product chain that you can charge this amount of money, He said, what do I do if along the way seven to ten other entities before it comes to my large superstore Kroger, that I have to sell it at five dollars and I've already spent six dollars to buy the It's six dollars to buy the product, and I can't sell it for
more than five dollars. So in that case, what we do is quit buying the product. It won't be available. That means people get unemployed. But Kamala Harris doesn't recognize that. Let's talk about two other policy prescriptions at Kamala Harris. One is twenty five thousand dollars. If you're like a first time home buyer the federal government, you're going to walk up to the pay win now, They're going to pay you twenty five thousand dollars as part of the
down payment. Now in fantasy land and goldilocks land, that sounds pretty good. Why does that not work.
Either, Well, this is another policy that will exacerbate the problem that she's trying to solve. Giving every won twenty five thousand dollars in increase to the bottom line of every home across the country would do nothing more than throw fire onto the home price situation. It would add twenty five thousand dollars in additional increased cost to all
of the home transactions going on in the country. It would do nothing more than increase home prices across the country, which is the problem she's supposedly trying to solve.
So if every year, this say, is a million homes sold, if the buyer has an additional twenty five thousand dollars to give to the seller, the seller is going to raise the price by twenty five thousand dollars, which will cause the inflation you're seeking to avoid. That's the way the market works. She also has a plan to build three to five million new homes in America. I'd live
in little Cincinnati, Ohio. You live in Washington, d C. I can't imagine what it would cost and the suburbs of Washington, d C. To build a brand new home. I know in Cincinnati to build a brand new home is between six hundred thousand to one million dollars in order to build that home, and in Washington, d C. It would be greater than that. Where's that money going to come from? We're talking hundreds of billions of dollars to build new homes. Where does that come from?
Oh, it comes from the taxpayer. And on top of that, can you tell me another government program that has come under budget or ahead of time in schedule. There isn't one that you can point to. So this program would go beyond it's it's timeline, it's deadline. It would cost billions upon billions more than is initially estimated. And this would add again to the problem that the that that she is supposedly trying to solve, which is housing affordability.
Let's talk about gasoline. When the Trumpster left office almost four years ago, the price of a gallon of unloaded gas in the mid to US is about two dollars and five cents. I just filled up my Chevy Blazer a couple hours ago, and the cost now is three dollars and sixty nine cents, which is about a forty percent increase. In California and Washington, d C is much higher. So she is saying the way to create more availability of gasoline is to eliminate pipelines and to make it
difficult for oil companies to locate new sources. And she claims that we can't use nuclear power because after all, there might be a three mile island situation, that we can't use natural gas, which is nature's greatest fuel ever. It is almost a pollution free and it's a wonderful product. We can't do that. We can't build any more LNG terminals, that's now illegal. We can't have any more coal. Still, about thirty percent of America is run by coal mining.
We can't do that, and we can't drill for more oil and so and also I'm told as you as I'm sure you know that every year for the next ten years, as far as the eye can see, we're going to have a need of about eight to ten percent more every year, and more electricity because of AI and because we have twenty five million or so illegals in the country using electricity, So we have a much greater need and we have less supply, which means the
price is going to go up. So what can you tell the American people how it would work to have more energy at a lower price when there's less energy and more demand.
Well, it doesn't work that way. It's fantasy land. And what she is describing and telling the American people is nothing more than fantasy. She is a co sponsor and supporter of the Green New Deal, which would cost the American economy five trillion dollars. To your point, it would ban natural gas, coal, nuclear energy, and the like, and so it would do nothing more than increase the price of the pump, which is something that we've been experiencing
for the last four years under this administration. I don't think the American people want another four years of that. And it's why November is it's total important.
You know, I have one more question economically, But can you imagine if the American people are sold to bill of goods, they can hide and chuck and jive Kamala Harris like they did Barack Hussein Obama in twenty oh eight, and there's no serious interviews. She does okay during the debate, she doesn't embarrass herself. And then the Hollywood left, the morning talk shows, the view, the evening newscast, the late night comics, Hollywood colleges, and university, big tech all get
together and they push her over the finish line. And she's now the president and she's sitting there for the next four to eight years. That means between twenty oh eight and twenty thirty two, which is twenty four years, we're going to have twenty of twenty four years the policies of Obama, Biden, and Harris. What does America look like?
Well, I don't know that we have much to come back from at that point. It's beyond just the economic issues. Of course those are central and probably top of mind to all of your listeners, but it's also the culture of America. I think that we all agree that we're losing the social fabric that has held our country together for the last few decades, and people are turning to
each other and wondering where this country is going. And I don't know, honestly that we could get through another four years of that and still have a country left to take care of.
Well, right now, we owe about thirty six trillion dollars in national debt. It goes up about one trillion dollars every ninety days, which means by the time of forty what we're adding to the deficit almost two trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities without counting all the other unfunded liabilities, which means we're going to be if she has eight years, we're going to be at fifty trillion dollars in debt along with two hundred trillion dollars and unfunded liabilities. We
can't recover from that. One other issue. On your website at Heritage Action, Ryan Walker, I see quite a bit of a out immigration to see quite a bit about DEI on the immigration front. She's in charge of the southern border. You may call her a czar or not or a tzar arena, whatever you want to call her. The Lester Whold interview about three years ago is very revealing. It's very rare when a mainstream anchor like Lester Hold
reveals the ignorance of a democrat. But he did it when asked her if she's been in the Southern border, and she said, well, I've not been to Europe either. I don't have to go to the southern border. She flew over the top of it a few times. And so you often have reference to what's happening in the southern border with the rapes and the robberies. There's one hundred thousand missing kids, migrant children. You can't find them anywhere in the system. They're dispersed all over the country
by trained playing and bus. Imagine if we have four to eight more years of the policies on the southern border, what does that do to small town America?
Oh, I think it destroys it. I think that we're seeing that, we're seeing it in small town America across the country. I recently saw it over the weekend. In fact, a news story that described a town cutting off funding for school buses so that they could bust migrants around this community. I think that the American people are sick of this ten million people in the country later and
they cannot stand what it looks like. They cannot stand the crime, They cannot stand the fact that these people are not interested in being a part of our great experiment. They are opportunists coming here to take advantage of an open southern border that Vice President Harris has created and allowed. And to your aud the debt and thirty six trillion dollars in debt. This administration and the Harris administration potentially
would want to increase taxes on every American. They would not want to continue the tax cuts that were instituted under the Trump administration, and they would do nothing to create growth in this country, which is the only way that we will get out of the thirty six trillion dollar hole that we have. Instead, they want to do price controls, open the southern border, and destroy the social fabric that we have.
Do you buy the argument that she's seen the light that here at the age of sixty years old the Kamala Harris campaign. She's now sixty years old. She's been in public service in a sense for like thirty five years in one capacity or another. When she ran for president in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, she had the most left wing extreme viewpoints about crushing or eliminating private insurance companies.
She talked about sanctuary city, sanctuary states, defunding the police, set up a bond fund in Minneapolis to get the felons, the robbers, the rapeist, the murderers out of jail, which she was successful in doing. It's not an offense, not a crime, to illegally cross the southern border, to provide every illegal alien to all the welfare rights of any
American citizen. Is there any sense in you have in your head, Ryan Walker of Heritage Found Heritage Action, that somehow she's seen the light and that in reality she's now a Reagan Republican instead of a left wing democra. Is she saying things to get elected or does she truly believe them?
No, I don't think that she's changed the tune to your point. In this stage in her life, She's built a career being a progressive and a radical progressive. I think that she's gotten acknowledgment from Speaker Pelosi and advice that Speaker Pelosi thinks that she has to tack toward the middle to win this election and supposedly reinvent herself.
But the problem is that she's a career politician and she has been in this space for a very long time, and her policy positions are very well known, and she hasn't stepped away from them. In fact, she's gone even further to the left. So we shouldn't expect anything differently should she become a president of the United States.
At your website Heritage Action, which is a wonderful website, it talks about DEI, which is government discrimination, picking and choosing winners and losers by race, sexual orientation, or gender, something of that character. Why is that evil? Why is that hurtful to average Americans to have government policy that practices race and gender discrimination. Why is that so bad?
Because we are a nation founded on the principle of merit and the advancement of someone's individual skills, attribute hard work, and determination to advance themselves through their career or their business, their entrepreneurship, whatever it may be. Instead, DEI says, because of your skin and your race, we're going to put you at a position that you wouldn't otherwise be eligible for or wouldn't otherwise be able to get, and you put them in that position. And a clear example of
this is the FAA. The Federal Aviation Administration has recently come under fire for instituting DEI policies in air traffic controller hires, and we've seen some recent mishafs on the runways with folks not understanding and knowing and having adequate training and a good background to do the job. And
so that's exactly what's happening across the federal government. This administration has been pushing it for the past four years, and if it's allowed to continue, it will add to the destruction of this country.
Now, lastly, about a minute remaining, Ryan Walker, I've seen a headline on the Washington Times. It says the following DC swamp Dellar say, it doesn't matter who wins the presidency, they'll do what they want to do. And that is the fourth estate, which is the bureaucracy. Literally a couple
million bureaucrats. And according to one study, fifty four percent of federal government managers in the agencies would defy voters to do what they want because we recognize the legitimate authority for government comes from the consent of the government governed, and that every four years we change at the top, but we remain. It goes on to say that another poll showed that a majority of Swamp Dennison's think we
peasants are getting out of line. Fifty one percent or federal managers believe that people have too much individual freedom. And that means that even if Trump wins, he can't change the bureaucracy. If he wants to change rules, get rid of the Department of Education. This article says they have the lawyers ready to go to a tied up
in federal court for years until the next election. How much of a danger to freedom are the alphabet soup three letter government agencies who are forever and will not pay attention do ever wins the presidency, it doesn't make any difference. How sick is that?
Well?
I think it describes and shows exactly what we're facing right These bureaucrats and these administrators are the ones that have been implementing this vision for the past few decades, and we're finally living under it. We're finally seeing the fruits of their labors. And we cannot have this anymore. We have to have a president who goes into an administration and uses schedule as in the authorities in him to advance his goals. But I think you're absolutely right.
The bureaucracy and the swamp want to stop Trump and they're acting in accordance to that.
Ryan Walker, thanks for coming on, and of course Heritageaction dot com. It's right there, all the Heritage Foundation groups. It's wonderful. And Ryan Walker, good luck to you, and once again thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And may you have a great Labor Day weekend. Thank you very much. Thank you, God bless America. Let's continue with more and if line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, the bureaucrats will
pay attention to no one accept their own job. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue and as I said to Ryan Walker, imagine four to eight more years of Kamala Harris socialism, wide open southern borders, massive government borrowing, massive inflation, breaking down of our major cities, defunding the police. Right now, there's fourteen naval ships that can't be equipped because of a lack of volunteers to join the navy. That's what's happening in
this administration. Can we survive four to eight more years of these policies? Many of the American people say not just say no, they say hell no, we can't go through it. Let's continue with more coming up next to as author Seth Frenchman, I'm going to try to connect with him in Israel tonight to talk about what happened with HESBLA and more. Go cunning in with you every Sunday,
Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, what happened October seventh of last year was in an incredible moment, a terrible moment for the Jewish people and for the world, because more than a thousand Jews were killed, two hundred and fifty were taken hostage. As we sit here, there continues to be large number of hostages. We pray to God are alive, but likely not. But we'll see what happens. The peace talks continue and nauseum because Hamas does not
one piece. Hamas wants war. And so when the sinwar and the other leaders of Hamas talk about the war and the civilian casualties that is what HAMAS wants, or more Palestinian casualties because it fits their purpose. And for the one of the first books out on this is Seth Fronzman The October seventh War, and Seth Fronsman, I think you're in Jerusalem as I speak, and welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, can you tell the American people what happened on October the seventh and how the psyche and the security and the safety of Jews have been compromised and how did it take place? Just give us the overview of what happened October the seventh.
Sure, well, thank you so much for having me on. Basically, HAMAS is an extremist tariffs organization that has existed since the nineteen eighty and around two thousand and five it was able to take over the Gaza Strip and by killing off its rivals, and then it turned. After two thousand and five sixty seven, it turned the Gaza Strip basically into a fortress of terror. It built hundreds of miles of underground tunnels, and it trained around thirty thousand fighters.
And what it did was it basically prepared a massive surprise attack on Israel. It took place you know, last October, about ten ten months ago, and it did a surprise attack just like Pearl Harbor or nine to eleven. It sent thousands of men to attack this de fence, there's a kind of security fence that goes around Gaza. It attacked around thirty places along the fence and thousands of guys riding motorcycles carrying AK forty sevens and the RPGs.
It also used small drones to attack some of Israels antennas and some of the technology including they are basically kind of like Israel have. These remote controlled machine guns were on these towers around the Daza strip and they neutralize a lot of those. And once the Hamas guys had gotten through the fence, they basically each squad of Hamas members about thirty in each place, thirty to fifty.
Their goal was to attack Israeli civilian communities and massacre the people that they came across and then kidnapped some of the ones that survived. So each imagine thirty groups of men, you know, thirty tons ten and each of them attacking a small community or attacking civilians who were out riding bicycles or you know, out for a morning job.
It was about six thirty in the morning, and they covered their approach by firing thousands of rockets so that most of the people would be hiding in their safers, in their communities or whatever they were taking cover, and they were able to overrun the Israeli troops. There were about five hundred to seven hundreds of Way troops on
the border. Most of those troops were overrun or they were coming under see each fighting it out, and that gave the Hamas about you know, five hours to commit this massacre up until Israel could basically bring in forces to there that were able to push the Hamas Teris back or neutralize them, or capture a few of them
and plug all these gaps from the fence. And it then took another week kind of even figure out how many people have been killed, because some of the bodies were burned, or they were or they were killed in different ways. So the man Israel, of course, has been fighting ten months basically the Gaza to try to defeat himas.
Yes, you know Seth. One of the phrases that came out of nine to eleven was the failure of imagination, and I was there as you know, in last May. It was almost impossible. The Israeli people could not have imagined this is all taking place. I call it a failure of imagination. And so is that an apt phrase to use? Because no one in Israel thought this was possible. And the kibbutzas are in southern in Israel, there are
little enclades anywhere. For me, one hundred and maybe five thousand people more or less living in the desert and small groups in an idyllic setting. Well, why wasn't the idea of prepared for this? Can you answer that question?
Yeah?
I mean, I think it's one of these things where you get used to an enemy. Hamas was an enemy. It was an organization, you know, sworn to destroyers or own killed Jewish people. But the component is that it had been there on the border controlling Gaza since, as I said, around two thousand and five, two thousand and seven, So this was.
A known enemy.
You know, think about it like the cartels in Mexico or something where you're used to having these enemies or dangerous people, but you become complacent sometimes. And I've been down on the Gaza border I've covered every war there since two thousand and nine or so, and I remember driving along there, or riding a bicycle whatever. I mean, you just you don't feel that there're you know, thirty thousand guys on the other side that are trying to kill you because.
You don't see them.
And I think, you know, unfortunately, you know, Israel had an intelligence failure that the days leaning up to the attack and didn't have enough soldiers, and Israel had become complacent, and it didn't have enough tanks on the border. There
were only about a dozen tanks. There were only two combat helicopters that were on alert that morning, and they were actually morder in Israel because Israel was a plade mortar fighting as Balla and Iran, right, So basically everything that could go wrong went wrong, and unfortunately complacency led to this massive massacre. And now everyone is trying to learn lessons from that and try to make it never happen again. But you mentioned nine to eleven. I mean
we never I remember nine to eleven as well. We never imagined people would fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the same time, right, I mean, we might have imagined one plane, might someone that might do it with one plane, And I think Israel was a wedding for a small attack involving, you know, a few hundred guys. It never iagine that the enemy could plan such a complex murderous operations. And now, of course we you know we I hopefully would never underestimate its
enemies again. But it's just that's what happens sometimes when euro Perry's or security officials become a bit complacent.
Seth frontsmen and jump ahead to today and after the Democratic Convention, there's this push to have a ceasefire, and I make the analogy that I could not imagine Georgie Patten. General Patten was on the outskirts of Berlin and World War Two, and that somebody would want a cease fire leaving Adolf Hitler in charge of Berlin acting as if
he's going to change his stripes. Can you talk politically how much sense it would make for Israel and now to have a ceasefire leaving Hamas in charge of Gaza is not just delaying the inevitable for the next attack. And they tell you up front, we're going to kill
what's going to happen next? Will be much worse than October the seventh, And so why would Benjamin Nichinyahuo agree to a peace treaty in which Hamas what they're hundreds of miles of tunnels and their complete control of Gaza and the fact they're given billions of dollars from nations all over the world that they use for military purposes. Why would Israel after this allow Hamas to stay in charge of Gaza.
Well, I think it's the perfect comparison, you may with the being there in nineteen forty four and deciding to kind of give them not be the feat fire. History shows you can never have if you have a vicious, genocidal enemy that doesn't play by the same rules as you, and it's worn to kill you exactly, you can't have
a seat fire. It just prolongs the inevitable of another war. Now, I think that Israel could have a short term sease fire like it did back in November where there was a ten day seat fire, in order to get some of the most vulnerable hostages out of Gaza. I think that you know, people want the hostages to be returned home. The other option is to try to free them inlitary attacks.
And rescue missions. That of course that may risk that may risk lies as well, but I think yeah, definitely, any kind of sea spire that leaves Hamas in power is rewarding not only Hamas, but let's remember it's also empowering those who back Kamas, including Iran and the other countries like Russia or Shiner or Turkey or Kaka and others.
So it's important to remember that any any attempt to leave Hamas in power or let it feel that it can win, will embold in all of America's enemies and all of Israel's enemies, and they will take a lesson from that that they can get away with this and do it somewhere else. So that certainly would be a good reason not to allow a Hamas any blue space or any kind of long term seaspire.
Seth. The head of the snake is Iran. They're the exporters of terror all around the world. Why doesn't I've been told by a US retired general that if we said to Israel take out Iran not using nuclear means, there's three oil exporting ports that would be destroyed by Israeli air force and missiles. They'd be out of business. Economically, there's two or three dams in the country that provide
all the drinking water. Take out the dams, ef viscerate ten to fifteen power stations and Iran suddenly they're back in the Middle Ages. Why doesn't I can imagine Iran would do it absolutely. What isn't Israel take the military approach, not using nuclear weapons and destroy Iran, which is the head of the snake. Why don't they do it?
Don't?
Why why doesn't Benjamin Netanyahu do that to end the war?
I think in order for Israel to do that, it would want to have a coalition with other countries like the United States or Western allies. I don't think going to the loone, you know, that could lead Israel to be condemned, so I think Israel has to be very careful. Also, remember Israel still fighting a war in Gaza. It has it has troops fighting guys every day against thereas Israel is stating an onslaught. The Iranian back group has both us.
So anyway, one argument could be made that we could go for the head of the snake, but I think that Israel has preferred to try to defeat the closer enemies first because they pose the big challenge, and Israel is hoping that Israel's Western allies like the United States, will be able to pick up some of the slack. And also you know, stand with Israel against the Iranian threats and things like that. So we have to see how the Iranian threat develops. You know, will Iran rushed
to weaponize the nuclear program? That would be the redline I think for Israel. And so we have to see what Iran does next.
When Iran has the capability of destroying Israel, it will do it because it's a culture of death, not of life. Russians, Chinese, Turks, they all want to live life, but the Islamic extremists in Iran and not the Iranian people, but the leaders do not want to that. They want to die because they think there's seventy two versions are in heaven. It's a culture of death. And lastly, I want I want to get to lastly, I want to get your reaction
to this. I've read some stuff out of Europe that the goal of HESBLA and Amas in Iran is to bleed Israel dry over time. The three great drivers of the Israeli economy are tourism, agricultural products and high tech. I would imagine right now that those industries don't exist in any measurable amount. There's one hundred thousand Jews in northern Israel that's moved south to live with others. The
economy's got to be on its back. Why wouldn't the forces of evil in Iran simply bleed Israel dry over the next three to five years, so they collapse economically, and then here comes the hordes of individuals around Israel to kill the Jews once again. Is that something that kind of marshals itself into your thinking that the long term says kill Israel indirectly when it can't do it directly.
I think that's partly true. Yeah, Ran doesn't want to basically force Israel to endless wars of attrition on the borders, in which it's not an Israel's interest probably to fight in these long wars. Whereas as Bulah and the groups like the Who's thes or groups in Iraq, they don't have anything to lose. They've already bankrupted their country, so it doesn't matter to them that the country becomes more bankrupt like a racker or lemonons. So that's definitely part of.
The running strategy.
I would say that in Israel. In terms of what's happened in israel'm's the economy. It's true that turns and is probably down ninety percent, but I think the high tech sector continues to thrive because high tech is exportable whether or not there's a war. And also remember that some of the high tech is used in Israel's defense systems. I mean that's how Israel bill Ironville, That's how Israel,
you know, trained pilots to fly off thirty five. So the high tech actually is something that Israel exports and also works with US defense company. So there is a silver lining probably there. In terms of the agriculture of yeah, the war's has been very bad to the north. I think the agriculture is south and what I've seen has rebounded impressively. So you know, Israel has always been under
siege since it was founded in nineteen forty eight. It knows how to do this, but it's definitely not in his interest to fight this war for the next numero of years. And Iran has to be stopped and Iran supplies of whip and it's the groups like as well. It must be stopped or Iran. Williams, you do exactly what you said. We just try to slowly bleed Israel, all right.
Seth Frensman, author of the October seventh War. I don't want to get into particulars of what these murderers did to women and babies. But the most despicable acts of human can commit against a mother who's pregnant was committed. Most are hyped up on drugs of one type or another. These thirty thousand fighters, and as we speak, there's about ten to fifteen thousand of Moss still alive wanting to fight the next war. This isn't ending it it must
be won. Israel must win this war by any means necessary, because his existence is at risk. Seth Fronzman, the October seventh War. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Seth, you're a great American, and thank you very much. Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more. I could not imagine a situation where Iran had the military power of Israel and they wouldn't use it. And Israel is the only country on Earth that is not permitted
to win its wars. Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live with you every Sunday night. Go right, Billy Cunningham, the Great American, Thanks for listening tonight. Especially it was good to hear from Seth Fronzman and Pastor Mark Bills about the situation in the Middle East, and also Will Sharf, who's the attorney for Donald Trump in the cases, and
also Ryan Walker. When I look at all the news tonight and what's happening, I'm just haunted by the suggestion that the assassination attempt on Donald Trump was not unique in Butler County, Pennsylvania. That Newsmax is reporting and many
others reported the same thing. That Iran has told many that they think the existence of Iran is at stake in the election of Donald Trump, and that they're very happy keeping Kamala Harris and Joe Biden that philosophy in charge going forward for the next four to eight years. Very happy with that fact. And that there's been reporting that they've sent assassination teams to track down and kill
Donald Trump by any means necessary. And a little plexiglass is not going to stop an RPG or weaponized drone. And one confronted with this, Donald Trump said the other day, I think it was on Friday. Look, he said, it's my job to campaign. There's not a darned thing I can do about it. I trust now the secret service that I have. I got to do my job. And
he said running for president is very dangerous. As we sit here in the evening of August the twenty fifth, with the hes blocks change, with Israel last night, and with more coming, we live in a violent, disgusting world in which freedom and a sense is on the ballot. Not the definition of freedom by Kamala Harrison Bernie Sanders, but the definition of freedom is described by the founding fathers in the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
And that this election is the most important since eighteen sixty. By that, I mean that if we continue in these policies for the next four years plus, we'll get to a point of no return. We cannot recover. We cannot recover. It doesn't work at all. We can't recover. That's how important. And by the way, please vote early, and please vote as often as you can legally. The Democrats vote early, they vote often, and away we go.
Too.
Many Republicans have waited until election day and something comes up and they don't vote. We have about seventy seventy four days remaining, but in about three weeks actually the voting is starting in several states, including North Carolina, which is critical. And the longer the vote takes and the more the ballots are hanging around boxes, the more opportunity
for chicanery exist. And so, whether you like it or not, the one hundred and fifty thousand volunteers that the RNC is put together needs to be there to watch what's going on. I hope we have a clean election. If we do, Donald Trump's going to win and RFK Junior's endorsement is a net positive of one or two or three percentage points, which is also very important. And according to RFK Junior, who by the way, Biden's taken away
Secret Service protection from Kennedy Junior now. But nonetheless, he says, more Democrats are going to come across understand what's at stake. We can't go the route of socialism and communism. We have to be proud Americans, like a white stallion on the high ranges of Wyoming, scratching against a pale blue sky.
That's the American way of life. Stay tuned for more every Sunday Night was renowned the election, and I pray to God when I'm with you this Sunday after the election, I can say once again that Donald Trump has been elected president one more time. May God bless you and God bless America. That's what I want to do. Thank you for listening. With you again, Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday Night.