Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 6/11/2023

Woo. Portions of the Bill Cunningham Show may be prerecorded Willie bad of the Ball Broughten who by Choice Hotels, a Kunn of Lodging roadway in Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Sal Here's the man who's been recognized its radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Mark Coney Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one

and only Bill Cunningham. All right, Billy Cunningham, and here we sit on this glorious Sunday night, having witnessed the indictment of President Trump on Friday by Jack Smith, a special prosecutor, a Democratic henchman going after Republicans,

which is what he's always done. Very popular. The statement he made a three o'clock Eastern time on Friday was short, to the point, provided nothing, but it again indicates that there's two sets of justice, one for Democrats that are connected, and one for Republicans, the outsiders, who are not

connected. And you may have recalled several months ago, I said that if you want to indict Donald Trump on something, it'll happen, and if you want to lock him up, I think the probability at this point of the Donald actually being sentenced to a federal prison is better than fifty fifty, which to me is almost impossible to consider. How the head of government and head of state could be sent to prison for behavior not nearly as egregious of what

other Democrats have done in office and outside. But there's two sets of justice, one for Democrats and won four Republicans. When Democrats and the George Floyd Riots of twenty twenty burned down billions of dollars worth of property, thousands of businesses attacked, five hundred police officers, forty two murdered, property damishers, and the billions, there was little or no indictments of any of those Democrats. When January six got out of hand, there was rioting inside the US

capital. Very few people committed serious offenses, and with that occurred, guess what, It's a massive federal government to crack down on idiots who went into the Capitol, many of whom were simply trespassers full court press. Even though the US GOUFPI warned the Mayor Bowser of Washington, DC and others that guess what was going to happen? There's going to be trouble inside the Capitol in

January the sixth. It was predicted, but in a sense, Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats kept the capital unprotected, and that now you know what happened on January the sixth, might recall a few months ago I brought out the probability that when the federal judge in Miami ruled that there may be an ongoing criminal act being committed by the Donald and his lawyers, there was a motion made by Jack Smith, who pierce the attorney client privilege and to force Donald

Trump's own lawyers to testify against Donald Trump. And they did. The forty nine page indictment talks about lawyer one, Lawyer two, and lawyer three, and I don't know what you know. At some point the grand jury testimony would be released if those lawyers testified a trial. Up to this point,

it would not be released. But I would imagine Donald Trump's own attorneys gave somewhat damning information to the special grand jury in Miami and Washington, d c. And that provided the basis for a lot of this, a lot of the indictments and why it happened, the reason marl Lago was raided in August of last year, was that Secret Service agents gave testimony contradicting what the lawyers

for Donald Trump had given to the federal court under oath. The federal judge wanted a sworn statement from the lawyers that all classified documents had been turned over, and after several days, the lawyers provided that information based upon conversations with Donald Trump that contradicted what the Secret Service agents had said that they observed. So that caused the piercing of that privilege between a lawyer and a client,

because lawyers cannot participate in their clients criminal acts with impunity. I have a lawyer coming up later, James Bogan, who does major criminal defense work, that's going to talk about the circumstances where lawyers can be required or testify against their own clients. So this was a full court press of the Biden administration to lock up the leader of the opposition party to make it easier for Joe

Biden to be reelected in twenty twenty four. And I can only imagine that when they started this long, long, long investigation, it was going to result in what happened on Friday. And I guess the Arrayment's going to be

on Tuesday at three o'clock. If federal prosecutors had and paneled a grand jury with subpoena power and obtained a search warrant for all that Joe Biden's properties, and FBI agents put his aids, secretary's administrative assistants, employees, and lawyers under oath to testify against Joe Biden, and scoured their phones and emails and confronted them with evidence to get them to talk, otherwise they would be held

accountable criminally, the agents would have found exactly the same kind of alleged criminal misbehavior they found with Donald Trump. They would have found that Joe Biden knowingly kept classified documents for many years and at least five different locations, including the four years between his vice presidency and presidency, having no power whatsoever to to classify anything, and honest agents unencumbered by any political buyas of their own or

their bosses, might have discovered that Hunter Biden and his family members had access to the supposedly secret documents kept in part in the garage on the floor where Joe Biden kept his corvette, and that if the FBI and Defense intelligence agencies and fives the courts and Affidavis had a full court press on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden starting in twenty nineteen. Guess what, Joe Biden never would have

elected president in twenty twenty. And anyone if the FBI and the Department of Justice and the federal government wants to get you, and you're a person that owns five hundred businesses and you love to fight, you have lots of lawyers around you, guess what it's gonna happen. They're gonna get you. But they did not want to get Hillary Clinton. And guess what they didn't They did not want to get Bill Clinton and all the sins and crimes he committed

in office before and after. But he was an insider. You might recall that Hillary Clinton, as a young attorney, served on the Watergate Committee. She was connected, and the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation hired dozens and dozens of the insiders family members to work and get paid large salaries. They know, the Clintons know where the bodies are buried, as does the Obamas. Right now, they're the insiders making big bucks. But Donald Trump

is not an insider, never has been, never will be. And so when the federal government started fighting Donald Trump, it's his character to fight back.

If the Department of Justice and paneled a grand jury and executed numerous search warrants on Hillary Clinton's office and home in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and seized her private computer, server, phones, electronic devices, put her aids under oath before grand juries and offer them deals, the FBI would have found thousands and thousands of unsecured, critical TopSecret CSI documents that were

still in her possession long after she left the Department of State. More than two thousand documents with Hillary Clinton deemed to be classified her top secret were recovered from her devices in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, and she deleted thirty three thousand others. That's a total north of thirty five thousand crimes that she committed.

But FBI just accepted what Hillary Clinton said. And some of those top secret emails made their way onto the computers and service of Uma Abadeen, her top assistant, That also made their way into the email else of Anthony Weiner. How about that one, Anthony Weiner, You know, mister danger, that guy and no big deal. James Comy gave him her a complete free pass. It was unbelievable that could happen in this country, and it happened,

and it happened repeatedly, and it continues to happen. And so now Donald Trump is facing serious charges and if they want to get him, they're gonna get him. And God knows, heaving crossed the rubicon, they now want to get him badly. And I think they're gonna get him one way or another. They're gonna keep going until they put him actually in prison. Unbelievable. And this is in light of a US Supreme Court decision that says

the president and the president alone can declassify any material. Now, it may not have been good to have these top secret documents and boxes in bathrooms and on stages at Marlago, But under a US Supreme Court decision, a nine zip decision it's called the Navy versus Egan case, unanimous decision US Supreme Court written by Judge Harry Blackman go down in history as the author of Roe versus

Wade that killed millions of babies. He wrote the opinion and said the president's ability to classify and control access to national security information flows from the Constitution. He decides, and he alone decides, quote unquote. So Trump, who's facing these charges in connection with classified documents, can put it wherever he wants and handle however however he wants to handle. It may not be good to put these boxes in and around a fancy bathroom with a chandelier, but the

president has the right to do it. There's thirty one counts of violating the Espionage Act through willful retention of classified records. Well, president, under this US Supreme Court decision nine ZIP, has the power to declassify him, and he said. Trump has said I did declassify him. And if he declassified him, guess what, They're not classified anymore. The press it may be

bad form to put him in a bathroom, but it's legal now. There was a meeting with the so called biographer in which Donald Trump said he could have declassified documents while he was still president, but added now I can't. But he has also said time and time again that all the materials in mar Lago are all declassified. I said, they're de classified, and this US

Supreme Court decision says he can do that. And also the boxes of documents found in the bathroom and a stage at mar Lago, among other places. The US Supreme Court said if Trump declassified him while he was president, they're not classified documents. According to US Supreme Court, the president can classify and he controls access to national security information however he wants. And I also would point out that the Presidential Records Act was not included in the indictment. That's

the normal course of business. And so Hillary Clinton, thank god, was never the president. Everything she did was numerous nasty felonies, including allowing Uma Habdeen and her husband Anthony Wiener to have access to the nation's greatest secrets. There she is again, did she walk on this deal? Absolutely correct, unbelievable. So this is selective prosecution and we'll see where it goes. My Gosha we in trouble coming up later. I know she set to go the

Clinton Global Initiative, and the Clinton Foundation was a ruse. It was a fraud, just shut down with over ninety five percent of the moneys went to salaries and benefits, little or no money was given for charitable reasons, and it ripped off the people of Haiti and got away with it with a phone system. It simply goes on and on and on. It's called selective prosecution. Selective prosecution. Let's continue. Coming up later, we also have Daniel

Greenfield, who has the origins of all this. The Obama Book is Barack Obama's true legacy. Also later on is Judge A Mule, the par of the Sixth Circuit that wrote a fabulous book on Clarence Thomas. We're gonna have him on also later tonight to talk about he's on the Sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals. He's written a book, The People's Justice, that's coming up

later too. So I want to spend mainly tonight talking about your feelings as a citizen that the United States of America versus Donald J. Trum having been indicted for behavior other presidents have done in spades and nothing came of it, but this particular case, they want to indict and incarcerate the leader of the

opposition party during an election. Let's continue. We have Nick and Eddie and Steven, thousands of others when the line becomes available eight six six six four seven seven three three seven eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every Sunday night, this September. Our iHeartRadio Music Festival is coming back to Las Vegas September twenty second and twenty third, and Team o Bluna streaming AM. It was beautiful Lindsey Graham

this morning going after George Stephanopolis at the clock of double standards. I mean, it's it's unbelievable. And George Stephanopolis wanted to change the subject in a hurry because, as you might remember, at some point, Senator Lindsey Graham is South Carolina reminds George Stephanopolis that Bill Clinton, he refers to him as your former boss, committed numerous felonies in office and there was no prosecution whatsoever. Ken Starr, who was put through hell by the medium by the Democratic

Party, decided not to indict Bill Clinton after he left office. And there were some comments at the time that maybe Push forty three would appoint a special prosecutor to go after Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton, etc. And Push forty three said, no, we need to move on. Well, we don't do that to former presidents. We don't criminalize a policy dispute. We don't do that. So it's kind of beautiful. It's only about forty five seconds

or a minute long when Senator Graham goes after George Stephanopolis. That was beautiful, and Dana Bash was bashed this morning on CNN by several Republican guests about the double standard, and all the media can do the double standard, is pointed out, is simply to move on and change the subject matter because it's so obvious even to them. But there is no media circus. There's no media squad going after Bill Clinton after he left office in order to indict him

for lying to federal judges. In fact, there's no effort right now by anybody to go after the FBI agents who are oath on affidavits to get warrants defies accords. Not much is happening there either. In fact, most of those involved are expert guests and spokesman and commentators on CNN. They're experts now, they get paid big bucks, take their pensions and run. But that

game is not played by those who work for Donald Trump. And so in my political viewpoint, this makes it more likely that Trump will be the nominee of the Republican Party, and it's more likely that Democrats think that he can't be reelected in twenty twenty four because suburban nights. The twenty percent kind of going back and forth left and right, are not going to vote for someone

under active felony indictments. And we're only halfway through this thing. I would assume that the Fulton County prosecutor, Fanny Willis is going to bring more criminal charges against Donald Trump and try him in front of Atlanta Fulton County jury that will convict Donald Trump. And I would assume a New York City jury is going to convict Donald Trump of whatever he's charged with there and then see what

happens on appeal. But even if Trump is elected to the presidency, which over Joe Biden, I pray that occurs if he pardons himself or whatever, he cannot pardon himself on state charges. So what happened in New York and what's going to happen in Atlanta, the federal president cannot affect whatsoever. It's

been a matter of courtesy among Republicans and Democrats. When Nixon left office, there was no effort by state prosecutors to file criminal charges against Richard Nixon, and there was no effort by Republican prosecutors in two thousand and one to go after Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton as simply as a matter of courtesy. But now that's been broken, I would anticipate in the future that Republican prosecutors are

going to go after Democrats like Joe Biden and maybe Kamala Harris. Not now that that rule has been broken, I anticipate that's going to be the case. So let's continue. I want to hear from you. The American people line becomes available eight six six six four seven seven three three seven, And it's evil, it's wrong. We're not talking. We're talking about a president

of the United States, head of government, head of state. When he says I declassified all the documents that I took tomorrow lago, there are no classified documents here, despite what he said on tape to his biographer, that's what he says. I like to see the evidency as because US Supreme Court case has ruled nine ZIP that a president can do exactly what Trump says he did, and Harry Blackman wrote that decision nine ZIP in the late nineteen seventies.

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that should happen. And maybe Uruguay or Paraguay, whether party in power seeks to imprison opposition, if Trump had robbed a bank, raped women, if Trump had committed murder and burglary, committed other crimes, that's one thing.

This is a made up paper offense in which papers are forming the ability of the Democratic Party to declare who the Republican nominee should be other than the leader of the Republican Party, when the Democrats have engaged in worst behavior of a similar character without any insult whatsoever from the FBI, which is now held in contempt by about seventy percent of the American people, which is sad. And

I'm talking about the leadership of the FBI. There's an FBI building about a half a mile from my sacred studio in Cincinnati, Ohio, and their wonderful men and women, the rank and file in the offices are outraged generally as far as what's happening at the leadership level. It's become entirely too political.

Fact. Next Sunday night, I have Thomas Baker coming back on. He was with us about six months ago about what happened to the FBI and oh, my god, is it in trouble or what It's unbelievable, what's happened to the leadership of the FBI. They've become entirely too political. During the days of Louis Free and Judge Webster, none of this would have occurred. There was a wall of separation the Department of Justice on one hand and the

FBI and the other. Now they work hand in glove. In fact, it appears charges have been made against some FBI agents whose spouses and others have participated and contributed to the Democrat Party. And of course MSNBC, George Stephanopolis and the mainstream media are completely bought and sold with the idea of get Republicans wherever they might be, including Tim Scott, including Clarence Thomas, especially Black Republicans must be gotten and it must be gotten hard, especially if you're a

black Conservative. They come after you harder than every They so called ethical lapses of justice Clarence Thomas have all passed muster by the ethics and the moral police of the US judiciary. They have a particular outfit that looks into that. No problem, but that has never told to you by the mainstream media. You can have rich friends who take you on their plane and fly year around

and it's okay, I mean, no problem. And you can buy homes of justice as mothers and use it as a possible library or possible museum of the future. No problem. All of that's past constitutional muster in the ethics standards of the US judges, but none of that is reported. Have you ever read a positive story about Clarence Thomas, A good story on sixty minutes of where he came from and is writing He's so literate and so bright. So none of that has ever covered. But how many glowing stories did you

read about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. They were constant and unremitting. Nothing negative was ever said. But Clarence Thomas, nothing good can be said. So this morning, this is George Stephanopoli's ABC News Sunday Morning with Senator Graham of South Carolina and George Stephanopolis, a committed leftist, on ABC did not want to hear this. Danny boy Gleason hit it, Well, here's what I believe.

We live in in America where if you're the Democratic candidate for president, Hillary Clinton secretary of state, you can set up a private server in your basement to conduct government business and when an investigation has had about your activity, now, let me finish. But you didn't, Actually that was ridiculous. Well, yeah, I'm trying to answer the question from a Republican point of view that may not be acceptable on this show. Yes, I don't like

what President Trump did in certain aspects. I don't like that Joe Biden had classified information on the garage. I don't like that Mike carelessly took classified information. I don't like any of that. But what I don't like is a system in a miracle where the secretary of State who's a Democratic candidate for president, has people take a hammer to social media devices and break them apart, apply beach Bleach bit to a hard drive, to race emails, allow classified

information to get on a felon's computer. Anthony Wiener, you haven't even mentioned that. Most Republicans believe we live in a country where Hillary Clinton did very similar things and nothing happened to her. President Trump will have his day in court. But espionage charges are absolutely ridiculous. Whether you like Trump or not, He did not commit espionage. He did not disseminate, leak, or provide information to a foreign power or to news organization to damage this country.

He is not a spy. He's over charge. Did he do things wrong, Yes, he may have. He will be tried about that. But Hillary Clinton wasn't your old boss. Committed perjury in a civil lawsuit, lost his law license, obstructive justice in a dozen ways, and he didn't get prosecuted. I know he was in peace, but he wasn't prosecuted. You've made, you've made, You've made your point. There you go with stored George Stephanopolis, your former boss. He lost his law license. Hey,

centator, Hey he lost his law license. He wasn't going to prison for twenty years. You've made, you've made, You've made your point. Well, that's what we're dealing with. And sadly, juries in Atlanta, in New York City, maybe Washington, DC, down the road, who are ninety percent committed leftists are going to decide the fame of the leadership of the Republican Party and in Miami. I don't know what's going to come to that.

Well, it's a break for Donald Trump that the Jack Smith prosecutor alleges that most of the criminal so called behavior took place in the southern district of Florida and not in Washington, d C. Where you cannot get a fair shake whatsoever. It's amazing. And Dana Bash also had some difficulties this morning because she doesn't want to hear about Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or Mike Pence who committed a reckless act. And the statutes deal with intent or gross negligent.

Can anyone not say that having classified documents in a cardboard box in the garage is not at a minimum gross negligence on the part of Joe Biden. How did it get there? How long has it been there? Why were they moved? Penn University of Pennsylvania funded by the Communist Red Chinese, thousands of secret documents were found there with access to the Communist Red Chinese and the so called Joe Biden Center. What came of that? The answer is absolutely

nothing. Is there any doubt in your mind that when Joe Biden leaves office and I pray to God his vertical and not horizontal, that when he leaves office, he's not going to face a criminal investigation. He's not going to have a Republican prosecutor going after him. He's not going to have his age put under the hot white lamps to testify, and if they make a misstatement, to be indicted for perjury. That only happens to Republicans. It does

not happen to Democrats. And it's sad and the standard. I would hope the case written by Harry Blackman nineteen eighty eight case it's called Navy versus Egan unanimous decision that Justice Blackman wrote that wrote the opinion and said the president's ability to classify or declassify and control access to national security information flows from the Constitution. He asides, he alone decides, quote unquote, there's no procedure one

has to go through. The president can do it. And he has said repeatedly, I declassified all the documents that went to mar Lago if he can prove that there's no crime, because nothing at mar Lago would then be classified. Despite the protestations of the President himself to his biographer and special counsel, Jack Smith, has thirty seven different counts saying the same thing, but a unanimous US Supreme Court said Trump can declassify anything he wants to declassify, and

the president said he did. Unbelievable. Dana Bashed asked this morning Jim Jordan, my friend from Central Ohio, asked him about one part of the indictment, alleging that while at the Bedminster, New Jersey home and golf club, that Trump showed a biographer a classified military attack plan and a pack official at classified map involving a country where the US has ongoing military operations. Okay, what if all the information he showed were all declassified while he was president?

Then what well, if they're all declassified, then there's no crime. The President has said time and time and time again he declassified all these materials. And if that's the case, this case goes away quickly. And also there were boxes found and the president's bathroom and a stage, etc. That may not be a good policy. But what if all of them were declassified or

that case they're pieces of paper, It can be done. According to that US Supreme Court decision, the President of the United States can classify and or declassify and control access to any and all national security information and however he wants. And if that's the case, you can't obstruct when there's not an underlying crime to obstruct, it's not a crime. And also to point out the Presidential Records Act was not included in the indictment. The it's normal course of

business. So I'm anxious to see the pre trial motions and how this will be decided. And of course the Democrats do not want a resolute before November of next year. They won this hanging over the electorate for the next what's seventeen months. They don't want Donald Trump to walk out of a courtroom in West Palm or Miami having been found not guilty of all charges because of jury nullification. They do not want that. They want this to be pending without

a resolution. Then what happens in January or February of twenty twenty five, when a trial takes place and the presidents found not guilty. Where does he go then to get back his good name? That's the plan. I know. Jack Smith said that he wants a speedy trial. It's not in the interest of the Democrat party to have a speedy trial. What if he's found not guilty. If he has found not guilty, he's the next president. He can pardon himself, but he can't pardon himself on state charges. And

the Democrats will not stop until they locked this guy up. It is really unbelievable what we're watching. So let's take some telephone calls. Bottom of the next hour. We have an eminent criminal offense attorney talking about the strategies.

Later on we have Judge and Mule the par who wrote the defensive work, and Justice Clarence Thomas also later on his Daniel Greenfield on the book Barack's Barack Obama's True Legacy that's coming up. And then next Sunday night, we're gonna try to get on Thomas Baker, FBI agent who wrote the book on how the FBI has lost its way completely used to be respected now it is not. I'd love to have Christopher Ray be asked by I don't know, Senator

jd Vance of Ohio. I love to have why does seventy percent of the American people, why have we lost respect for the leadership of the FBI. Why is that? What have you done? What's happened? And it's a great question because they've become political attack dogs at the top for the Democrat Party. Let's continue. Thousands and old millions are listening. Let's go to Robert and Maryland. Robert and Maryland, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Robert,

how are you? What are you gotten? I'm doing good. I read the indictment and everything, and I saw some of the film that Trump which he convicted hisself. He convicted his self by opening his mouth. If I was one of his attorneys, I tell them to shut that hecup and don't say anything. But he's not that that. That's kind of uh closing do after, you know, let the horse shout in the barn. Well,

he say to himself, you can't say. You can't say it, but you know it's not right that you said that the Democrats did it. When he did it to himself, explain what did he do? Be specific one, when he said, uh, he was gonna um when he said he did he hadn't classified some of the uh, some of the favorites that he had, especially one on the defense and the one he got poop for

him and his h his valet aide. That's talking about uh, you know, he didn't classified and when He also got him on tape on tape showing that he uh, you know, saying that he uh he he did this, but he didn't classily classified. You cannot he classify something by a Jedi mind trick. Let me get you some reference on mind so you know, I'm coming from a place that I know what I'm talking about. I was

saying that Headquarters Marine Corps. Uh. For four years, I was communications chief, and I would do it the walker to the walker spot case. So you know which was in trouble for that? He need Donald Trump. His biggest problem right now is mouth. But I mean, according to the President. I'm referring to Donald Trump, he declassified all the information that went tomorrow logo. Now, if that's the case, I'm waiting to hear specifically,

what did you do that caused the classification to transpire. Could it be a mental gyration? I hope not. Maybe there's an order, maybe there's a letter, maybe there's a document before noon on January the twenty, twenty twenty one, and I'm waiting to hear it. He has said everything that I had was to classified and his statement, now that's what he said. You know, I respect number one. I respect your service, Robert, and thank you for it. But you don't have the power or in the

military. Did the classify anything but the president, according to this your Supreme Court decision, has unanimous a sole power to do it. And I'm waiting to hear what it is. I'll say, he did not do it. How do you know that he did not do it? No, he didn't emit, he didn't do it. He has said repeatedly that he classified all the material he took tomorrow lago, and then he had this conversation in July of twenty twenty one. He also said it was in my mind. I'm

waiting to hear. Okay, explain to me. Pursue it to this US Supreme Court decision nine zip. Does there have to be a physical manifestation If you're the president and you say it's to classify, you don't have to notify anybody that you cannot see the president, not even the president to say emany bobba de booh, this is the classify So you know, uh, you know through No, he cannot do that. Well, let's wait. I

want to wait. The president said he did it. I want to see I want to see the evidence Robert, I need to see the evidence. We gotta run, but I need to see the evidence, Robert. Thank you for your a call. I got up against the clock, but thank you for your service. And for him to say, in my mind, I did it? Is that sufficient? According US Supreme Board decision, only the president can do that. Is that sufficient? I don't know. Let's wait to see the evidence. I'm an attorney, I've been in age for

eight years. I want to see the evidence. Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night join the red Donald Trump. And that's bad news for Jack Smith. And it also appears in previous Trump type of decisions. She's applied to constitution and according to one media account there the liberals are

very unhappy with this particular judge being assigned to the case. In fact, I watch MSNBC so you don't have to then head on guests it said that Judge Alane Cannon can absolutely sink the federal prosecution of Donald Trump by applying the standard in the nineteen eighty eight Unanimous Supreme Court case Navy versus Egan, in which it is stated herein that only the president has the ability to classify or

declassify, control access the national security information, and it flows from the constitution. Quote he decides, he alone decides. So if Trump can prove directly or indirectly that I declassified all the documents that one from Washington, DC tomorrow lago, there's no obstruction of a crime that doesn't exist. She could scuttle the whole case. Wow, let's continue with your calls. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every Sunday night. Home title theft. It's on

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just thinking in my head it's declassified and it's done. So it doesn't seem right to me. But I've read the Navy versus Egan decision of nineteen eighty eight. Unanimously US Supreme Court said only the president, based on the US Constitution, can decide what is and what is not classified. Now the manner of expression of what's in the Constitution is a different matter. How do you

don't know? I know. There's lots of legal issues involved in this matter, including the fact that Trump's own attorneys were required to testify against their client under oath because it appears that Secret Service agents provide information also under oath to Jack Smith, the Democratic Special Prosecutor, that the information provided by Donald Trump

and his attorneys was inaccurate, that there were classified documents at Marlago. But if he declassified him while still in office, guess what, They're not classified documents. The whole case blows up. Have you heard about that from the mainstream media? I don't think so. So let's go back to the cause. I love the call from Maryland because I love men and women that have served in the military, the step forward and say, well, I know

in my declassification world, I gotta be real careful, Bill. That's a difference between no matter who, even a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, all a million and a half in the military do not have the power of the president. According the US Constitution, he has the ability to classify, to classify, control access to national security information because it flows from the Constitution. And that's it. President says it. That's it. Now.

Did he say it while he was still in office? Trump said he did. I'm anxious to see what exactly that is. Let's go to San Diego, the home of the home of course, of the Padres who are not playing very well this year, Jack and San Diego. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Jack, please go ahead. Well, first, there is no procedure for the president to follow correct to declassify. In other words,

he doesn't have to do ABC to declassify something. If he says it's declassified, or if he thinks it's declassified, he's not required to do more than that. He doesn't need Congress's approval, he doesn't need the approval of The New York Times or George Stephanopolis. He can simply say it is declassified, and according to this unanimous decision nineteen eighty eight, it's over. That's it done. That's correct. In other words, there is no procedure for him

to follow. Now. Second, the documents were moved pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, not the Espionage Act. Correct. The Espionage Act has nothing to do with this. And the judge on Tuesday should throw this case out of court. There's a fear, there's a fear that because she's quote a Trump appointee, that that might happen. It won't happen on Tuesday, but

it has to be pre trial motions. But I would imagine there's lots of pre trial motions being filed, being prepared right now to throw the case out under rule six P and other rules that they failed or stay to claim the cause of action because if the President said they were to classified, they already classified. There's no obstruction. The case disappears. Well. What I found was particularly irritating today was Bill Barr being interviewed by Ye Shannon Bream saw on

Fox he threw Trump under the bus. But let me remind everybody, Bill Barr did not advise his client, Donald Trump, on any particular procedure to move these documents. He didn't advise Trump one way or the other. But now he's saying, oh, this is a great espionage case. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a swamp creature. And here's what I have been told is going to happen on Tuesday as they're going to make emotion.

That is the government to put Donald Trump under house arrest and pull his passport. They don't want him campaigning all over the country doing his rallies, so watch for that. Now, there is something that is developing that is never been thought of before, and that is President Biden and his capacity as commander in chief is subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice and can be

court martialed. So what I'm saying is a warning. If this case isn't thrown out a court on Tuesday, for repercussions all over the country, will you call me next Sunday, night Jack and tell me let's have this conversation again after the judge takes a look at this case, because they're going to try to get her off the case because she has ruled in favor of the Trumpster a couple of times now, it's gone up to eleven circuit on appeal and she lost each time. But she is a judge who's going to follow

the constitution. But you call me next Sunday, United to see if any of that happens, Well, I will. And here's the irony, and I'll leave you with this thought, is that the government wants me to believe that Donald Trump is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. And what is he doing selling information, taking bribes? So here's the irony. Guess what

you just described President Biden? Well, five million dollars. You know, when the FBI whistleblower released the information a few days ago that Hunter and Joe Biden got five million dollars each, the mainstream ABCNBC, and CBS had no report from the FBI that the sitting president took a five million dollar bribe when he was the vice president the mainstream media under the Espionage Act. And if he's not, he may be courtmore shalt how about that? Will you call

me next Sunday? If you got the guts, Jack, you call me next Sunday. We'll talk about see what happens on Tuesday. Thank you God, bless America. Let's go to Paul and Idaho, the home of the Potatus. Paul, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and Paul, please go ahead. Yeah, I just good evening, Bill. Thank you. Yes, sir, I wanted to say him. I was really made me very happy to hear that you had such a nice spiritual journey to the Holy

Oh. I'll tell you what. When you walk up the stations of the Cross and end where Jesus was crucified, going in the tomb of Joseph, then you spend time in the Jordan River, you spend time at Massada, you go to the Dead Sea, you go to Bethlehem, you go to Nazareth, you go. I always spend five days in Jerusalem. And the main difference between a Jew and a Catholic is through those gates of the Old

City, as I stood there and watched him. If you go to if you go to my Twitter account, I got a few pictures of me on a camel. The Jews say the Messiah will come, Christians say the Messiah will come again. That's essentially the difference. And I loved, I loved being in Jerusalem, and I love the Jewish people. Yeah, it was nice to hear what you had to say when you first got back. Yes, I didn't. I didn't get tough on my call, but it was

nice to hear what you had to say. Yes, Um, you know, I'm not going to touch what this gentleman caller just called in about. I can't beat, so I'm not going to talk about that. But I did have a u a question, and I was wondering how your fellow Ohio and are doing as far as East Palestine is concerned. Well, you know, I'm gonna have on a Senator a Jada Avance, who's on top of this thing, next Sunday. I'm gonna have him on to talk about it.

It's largely gone out of the news. And I know the governor Mike DeWine. I talked to Mike uh Monday or Tuesday, and there's a clinic set up. They're getting the information of the Ohio Department of Health. We have every anticipation here that the federal ignore this in a hurry, but the Ohigh Department of Health is going to stay with it. Biden seems to have gone back on his word. Sure he did, I remember he says he was going to come and visit you guys down there. Never did and he's

not gone to. No, you're not blewing us down there for no. I know Ohio it is a red state. Kentucky's a red state, you know, right. If you take If you take Ohio, Kentucky in Indiana, throw in Idaho, Montana, North and South Dakota. I'll tell you what great Americans live here, no matter what race, description, orientation. I love living in Ohio because I think this is the greatest part of the

greatest country in the world. I know every night I get all angry about what's going on, but nonetheless, this is a great place to live the United States of America, and I think the best parts are the ones I reference. The best place to be is in the red cities and the Red states because it's functional. That's why the blue cities and the Blue states are

losing population. Their schools stink, crime is rampant, there's no job creation, it's expensive, taxes are confiscatory, and don't get me started on that. But the media doesn't cover that either, do they. No, no, no, they won't do it. Yeah, but I'll make them look bad. They won't do that. Exactly right. Well, thank you, Paul, give my best to all the great folks in Idaho, and God

bless you. And I tell you what, if I have another chance to go to Israel and spend time with those special people, I'll do it in a heartbeat. And one cannot go through the Holocaust Museum. We only spend three hours there and come out of it other than the great respect. You talk about discrimination against individuals. They've gone through about three thousand years of discrimination. They've been beaten, murdered, crucified, they've been killed, they've been

thrown into the ovens, dispersed all over the world. When they came back to Israel in nineteen forty eight and founded the greatest country in the Middle East, that that was God's representative on earth. And I tell you what, I'm proud of what the Jewish people have done for in Israel. And it's only I think it's only going to get it's only going to get better. They've benefit themselves. I'm really proud for them to do that. Yes, I'm glad to be an American and to support them. Yes. Well,

all right, thank you, thank you very much. All let's continue, take a short break and at the bottom of about fifteen minutes from now. Criminal defense attorney James Bogan's going to talk about the defenses available to Donald Trump. Later on, as Judge the par of the Sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals, it's got a new book out on Clarence Thomas. The greatest justice

now that Nanton Scalia has died is Justice Thomas. And he's written a book, The People's Choice Available, And I am as Judge the par And then later on also is Daniel Greenfield. It's written a book on Barack Obama's true legacy. We're seeing him played out right now. Is true true legacy? This is gonna be a long haul. Are you in it for the long haul? As an American? You want to give up and stop? I pray not. We're in it for the long haul. We knew months and

months ago this day was coming, and we knew Tuesday was coming. We know it's going to come into land in Fulton County. It's gonna happen New York City, New York County. It's gonna happen there too, And they're

gonna keep going till they lock him up. And the only way to stop it, I think is to elect Donald Trump and elect Republicans wherever you can find them, because the Democrats and the media are banking on the fact that you'll be so disgusted with the leaks and the reported behavior of Donald Trump, you'll forget about what the Clintons did and what the Bidens are doing and things of that character. And I love Representative Jim Jordan. This morning with CNN

stay in Bash got into a heated exchange. I'm going to see if Danny boy Clice and my producer can play that on the other side. Nineteen minutes after the hour, Bill Cunning of the Great American Live with You every Sunday night, September our iHeartRadio Music Festival is I think you and I've been around a long time, and I'm telling you now, this is the damnedest thing

I've ever seen. That the leader of the opposition party can be indicted, possibly jailed, and taken inability to run for political office on the fact that he allegedly had some papers in boxes shrewn about a bathroom and maybe a stage that is multimillion dollar summer retreat. And that's somehow because of that, we have to forget about what's happening in America right now? What's happening in your life? Gasoline is about to go to five dollars a gallon. The country

is about thirty two trillion dollars in debt. Unbelievable. The southern border, despite non coverage by the mainstream media, continues to be wide open. Blue cities in blue states. Some of the great so called cities in this country are obliterated by the policies of the Democrat Party. San Francisco, you can't walk around Los Angeles. How about Portland? How about Seattle? How about downtown Chicago? How about New York City or Boston or Atlanta or Washington,

DC? Or crime is up forty percent and the kids in the public schools are not being educated. How about the fact that Iran may be about to attack Israel, and the fact that North Korea, because who's in the White House, may attack South Korea, and that China may go after Taiwan because who's in the White House. A foolish, feckless man, A foolish, feckless man is in the White House, who seeming least, taken bribes from

all over the world to affect American policy. That the mainstream media ignores completely the five million dollars to Joe and the five million dollars to Hunter and the FBI. He has had the roadmap of the Biden crimes since twenty nineteen, and its simply ignored it four years down the road, and whatever one of the great US senators to Senator crews and others gets into it, for Ray simply announces it's under investigation. I can't talk about it. It's been four

years. Donald Trump. I have sympathy and empathy for him for many reasons. One damn it. His four years worked. He kept promises, made promises, kept the appointment of conservative federal judges. The southern border was locked down, Inflation was almost non existent, America was energy independent. It was

a good time for those four years. Didn't start any wars, and the despots around the planet were afraid to do anything because they didn't trust Donald Trump to act like Joe Biden or Barack Husaint Obama, who said repeatedly that America

is not exceptional. So those four years had to be ignored. But we now live in a country where Joe Biden, beginning as vice president on paper, except that millions of dollars in bribes from Ukraine, China, Russia, etc. And basically the issue is not reported because of papers in a bathroom and Mara Lago protected by security detail and by the Secret Service that Donald Trump

has said he declassified them all. So I don't know. Those papers are not important to your life, But the cost of groceries is, the cost of energy products is important to your life. The Southern border, the collapse of public education, the fact that federal bureaucrats about eighty percent of them, will not report to work in the office. That's a big deal. They

will not work. The fact way of a president who has compromise and who was mentally mentally light shall we say, who mentally is absent from the job, and media knows it and they won't adequately report on it because they want to make sure he gets re elected or Kamala Harris gets elected or selected as the president. You know, I read the twenty second Amendment. There's nothing wrong with the fact that Barack Obama could be elected vice president under Joe Biden

in twenty twenty four. Twenty second Amendment deals with a person being elected to the presidency twice, so there's no question that this is the third Obama term. And if fantasy exists and Biden selects Barack Obama as his vice president and then resigns during his term, and Obama becomes the president, that doesn't violate the twenty second Amendment because he wouldn't have been elected twice. It's unbelievable what's

happening in this country. But we are consumed with pieces of paper in a bathroom in Marlago, protected by security detail and by the Secret Service with locks. Were obsessed with that, trying to get him by any means necessary.

The poor guy, according to the Wall Street Journal, has more than five hundred separate lawsuits penning against him and his company's five hundred lawsuits and now up to almost one hundred counts, one hundred felonies between New York and the Southern District of Florida, a hundred counts indictments, along with hundreds of lawsuits and more to come. How does the guy get up in the morning. I don't know. This guy Trump is unbelievable. And all I'm saying is treat

him the way Hillary Clinton was treated. Treat him the way Bill Clinton was treated. Treat him the way Hillary Clinton was treated and in which case he's the next president. Let's continue with more. Coming up next is James Spogan, em in a criminal offense attorney later on his judge and Rule, the par author of the book The People's Justice, The Great Judge Clarence Thomas, where he came from, and why he's one of the great Justices. News

Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred WL Cincinnati. The Talk Around DC continues to surround the former president's classified documents and the upcoming federal indictment with the eleven thirty report, I'm Sean McCormick breaking now former President Donald Trump rallying against mince over mishandling the classified documents and obstructing justice by allegedly hiding and not returning them. Trump at times claims he had already declassified those documents and that he had

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any of the records. That at least were named in the indictment. In fact, there's a big piece of evidence of recording where he talks with someone and says explicitly that this is something that's so highly classified he publish shouldn't even be showing it. That he could have declassified it when he was president, but of course he can't anymore. Never let us weather from the forecasters at

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think negative and live positive. If you get your mind going in the right direction, if your life will go in the right direction. American of course, we've been discussing this all night, which is what's going to happen with the indictment now of President Donald J. Trump. This is a long process. It began in New York a few months ago. It was a book to Reign, etc. On charges that appear to be frivolous at best.

These are more serious charges that carry essentially about twenty years in prison, thirty seven felonies. X Smith, whose special counsel. He's one of the Joe Biden's lap shall I say, pit bulls that go crazy on certain conservative Republicans. And I want to get the perspective of an active criminal defense attorney, James Bogan about some of the possible defenses and his thoughts on the indictment. James Bogan, welcome again into Bill Cunningham show. And first of all,

let's go to the prosecutor himself, Jack Smith. And you've done some researcher course relative the lowest learner, etc. So before we get the essence of the chargers, tell us about the prosecutor, Jack Smith. Well, look at his whole work history. He's worked for Democrats. He worked for a Manhattan DA's office. We all know about them. And when he worked at the Department's Justice, he was working under Democrats. Eric Holder was his boss.

Yeah, he did prosecute John Edwards, but that was in two eleven when John Edwards was on the outs with the Democratic Party. He wasn't there, Darling like he was in two thousand and four. So the fact that he prosecuted John Edwards, that's meaningless to me. But the big thing you got to look at. You have his supporters saying, oh, he's impartial, blah blah blah. Look at his involvement with the Lowest Learner IRS scandal.

He took. He initiated efforts to get the Justice Department involved in this whole thing. When he saw what Lowes Learner was doing, he initiated contact with her, and he was actually kept wanting to push about this even after other higher ups were expressing doubts about it. And he was only aiming at conservative nonprofits during this whole debacle, never a mention of looking at any liberal,

any Democrat nonprofits. So going back to twenty fourteen, there was an effort to shall we say, in the election of twenty twelve, to stop the Conservatives from getting tax exempt status, and so Lowis Learner the IRS was kind of told directly or indirectly to deny tax exempt status. So in twenty twelve, when Obama ran against the mit Romney, there'd be less money on

the conservative side. So by twenty fourteen, thinks him metastasized, and that Jack Smith was the one who wanted to go after conservative groups, humanitarian groups, religious groups, and leave the liberals alone because of because of the light being a great disinfectant. That kind of quieted down a little bit. But Lowis Learner eventually simply took full retirement, was paid with her retirement benefits, and now she went, let's deal with the charges themselves. There's thirty seven

charges. I know the Presidential Records Act is going to come into play to a large extent as their criminal offense. Attorney One, are one or two issues that rise in your mind that might cause Donald Trump some difficulty, and then I'll ask you about the indictment itself in Toto. Well, the difficulty here's he's going to have to show that he de classified these documents and he put his foot in his mouth in the faulty cent. Oh, I did it with a thought. You can't do it with a thought you have.

There's a actually quite painstaking process where blacked out information that supposed to the secret gets blacked out. The declassification is recorded, and any agencies that are affected have to be notified, and the individual documents have to be remarked a show that they're no longer classified. At this point, we don't know a thing about what's going on with that whole situation, and Trump's telling the press I

did it with a thought. That doesn't help well. The other issue is, according to Alan Dershowitz, who's been very agreeable with the Donald until recently, the one damning piece of evidence, Alan Dershowitz says, is the tape recording of a Trump biographer and the Trumpster on tape is talking about the fact that here's something that is classified that I can't now to classify because I'm not the president anymore. I guess it involved some possible attack on Iran and what

was going to happen. So there's one damning piece of evidence, and that

I also brought up the fact earlier about the crime. A lot of the crimes began allegedly after the investigation started, and so instead of the Donald turning everything back because he didn't think he had to, there was subpoenas being issued, there were raids at Mara Lago, there were Secret Service agents that testified, and in the indictment talks about attorney on attorney two, an attorney three, so at some point the federal court required Trump's own attorneys to testify against

him because there was an exception about lawyer client privilege. Explain that to the American people, there's an exception in the lawyer client privilege when it's about hiding evidence of criminal activity. Hiding evidence, for example, we've talked about this before. A lawyer cannot help a client hide evidence. So let's say you have maybe a more simple, say a drug case, and if a client who's a drug dealer says to you, James Bogan, I like to hide

some of this heroine. And you would say, I'll tell you what, why don't you rent a locker somewhere and I'll help you rent the locker in my name. We can hide the evidence there. That's a problem. Explain that lawyer would get disbarred because you can't participate in the crime. It's a crime being committed by your client and providing constitutional protection. You're involving yourself.

And so the argument of Jack Smith was that these lawyers had given to the federal court affidavits that indicated that all the classified materials had been turned over, and when the Secret Service agents testified against Donald Trump that there was more classified documents. There was a suspicion by the federal judge in Miami that the lawyers may have been participating in hiding evidence, and so he the lawyers were given shall we say, immunity in a sense, as long as they told the

truth, and they were required to give testimony against their own client. Now that could be damaging for Donald Trump too, correct, absolutely, because I don't know what they testified too, but the indictment seems to indicate they provided inculpatory evidence against Donald Trump. Discuss the issue of how unusual it is for a presidential candidate and former president to be indicted when you have other examples such as Hillary Clinton, such as Joe Biden, such as Mike Penn's, such

as Bill Clinton. Please explain, Well, this definitely goes into the selective prosecution argument, which you know that defense is going to be raising that issue long before it even goes to trial, because before a case goes to trial, you do all the pre trial motions, say motion to suppress, to try to get Evans thrown out. In this case here, you can bet

Trump's lawyers are going to be arguing selective prosecution. Hillary Clinton, she had classified information on personal servers, and it was reported that for an adversaries got ahold of some of it. And there's the lease in a thirty three thousand emails phones being destroyed with hammers, and then Biden had documents in four locations. And just because Biden cooperated, so to speak, that doesn't take away

from the fact that it happened. And how many times, Bill have we had cases where a client pays restitution, but they still need to plead a something because they did it, and restitution giving the property back doesn't change the fact that it happened. It's kind of like, let's say a bank has robbed and Hillary Clinton commit a crimes bleach bid also destroying simcards under a subpoena

thirty some thousand emails, and let's say use the bank robbery analogy. If someone robs a bank and takes the money home, if you give the money back to the bank, the crime was still committed. So even though Hillary Clinton cooperated in a sense, the crime she committed was destroying thirty thousand emails

under a subpoena which was highly classified information. And James Comey gave her a Texas El Paso in July of twenty sixteen that she says cost me the presidency, that it raised the issue, and so that's what started the Russian collusion delusion. That's a different matter. But how successful is it when you talk about selective prosecution? I know my mother used to say to me, the fact five other people do something wrong, Billy, doesn't mean you can do

something wrong. So how strongly is that an argument in court when it comes to other people weren't prosecuted, why am I prosecuted? Does that work? It depends on the situation. Bill. You basically have to show a systematic policy of it. And just the fact that these other file figures, Bill Clinton, I mean Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, they haven't been prosecuted. No one's even come close to prosecuting them, when the evidence is right there

on a silver platter. Why is that? How come Bill Clinton could lie under oath to federal judges, and Bill Clinton could suborne perjury encouraging other people in the executive branch of government to lie, and Bill Clinton used the assets of the Department of Defense to hide his girlfriends and no show up big jobs. All that was simply ignored, and I think he lost his ability to practice law in Arkansas, which nobody was going to hire him as an attorney

anyway. So in the case of Bill Clinton, in office as president, not after he left office. In office as president, he committed numerous felonies, why wasn't he prosecuted? Politics? Look who's in charge of the Justice Department. And one thing too, with Jack Smith, I don't think he was entirely truthful of Congress either. When he talked to them about this whole i RS scandal, he just said, Oh, I had concerned that there

wasn't an appropriate enforcement and wanted to discuss it. Yeah, just discuss it. Not And when I think it's blatantly obvious that he was pushing for an investigation in prosecution, he wonted. Jack Smith wanted to prosecute Republicans in twenty fourteen, fifteen, twenty sixteen. He was turned down in that, but

he showed his true blue colors and his wife also was highly political. So they picked someone and then they pretend as if he's on his own, but in reality, the president appoints the Attorney General, Mary Garland, who's going to act to grind against the Republicans because in his mind, he should be on the US Supreme Court, and then he also goes and appoints Jack Smith, knowing his history, and that Jack Smith could have issued simply a written

report under the Presidential Records Act. He didn't have to indict anybody. He could have said, this is what we have found, put it out there in the public domain, and then have a legitimate election in November of next year to decide who the president is and who isn't who's going to get elected. But he has his thumb on the scale indicting the leading candidate for the presidency of the opposition party and a former president, which had never happened before.

Let's talk for a moment about about President Joe Biden having hundreds of boxes of classified documents and different locations, including in his own garage where he Parks's corvette completely unguarded. Where's the indictments of that. That's something that shows selective prosecution evidence right there on a silver platter, not crickets, nothing. And

I'm waiting is that an effective argument in federal court? Maybe on pre trial motions, but sometimes it's been tried in other cases, such as I'm being prosecuted because I'm black, I'm prosecuted because I'm a Republican, I'm prosecuted and other people are not. A lot of times. On January sixth, the defendants have tried that selective prosecution argument, claiming that those who rioted with the George Floyd riots in in twenty twenty, we're not prosecuted. But the judges

have thrown that out. Selective prosecution. Isn't that a tough hurdle to overcome? That is a tough hurdle to overcome, and what you need to do for the defend arguing this, you need to be able to show that other, like other people, similarly situated people are not being prosecuted. Now in this case, here you're dealing with a pretty small sample of similarly situated people. It's not like you're dealing with a big sample of rioters or anything like

that. Here you're dealing with a very small sample of president potential candidates. In fact, many have said treated him like any other citizen. But the fact the matter is he was chief of State and also chief of government. He was like the king and the CEO. A president holds both titles in his arm. Chief of State also chief of government. He's in charge and you got to treat him the way Hillary Clinton was treated, the way Bill

Clinton was treated, the way Joe Biden was treated. And by those standards, only Republicans get prosecuted and Democrats do not for worst behavior. Imagine if these hundreds of boxes in mar Lago had been set on fire or destroyed by Donald Trump, as Hillary Clinton destroyed all those thirty thousand emails involving national national secrets, and that was given a Texas al Paso. But in the Trumpster's case, he's being prosecutor. Well, James Bogan, I'll tell you what

any idea how long this case is going to take? Here we are the first half of June, and they want a speedy trial. In the federal system, you can have a speedy trial, says the trial must begin within seventy days. Do you see that happening in this case. I don't see that because the sheer volume of paperwork and bill one more thing that differentiates Trump from these others. Not only is he a Republican running for office, he's

not a political insider. The political establishment. People on both sides of the aisle see him as a threat. Mitch McConnell sees him as a threat. I think we all know that. And that's something here that you don't have with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden or anybody else who's a political insider. Well, Mitt Romney's an insider. John McCain was an insider. A Bush forty

one was an insider. Bush forty three was an insider. Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney, both of them are clowns, but they're both insiders, even though the Republicans they're insiders. But in this case with Donald Trump, is none of that. He's an outsider, and it's going to help him in the Republican primary. I'm not sure he's going to help him in the general election. I can only imagine that the trial takes place in February, March

or April of next year. If he's found not guilty, If the Jerry finds him not guilty in all thirty seven counts, they might as will just give him the oath of office. He's going to win the presidency. I can agree with that, all right. James Bogan will awigh upon you as the months go by to see the approaches taken by the Trump defense team. Once again, James Bogan, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, my friend will do it again. Thank you very much, Thank you

always a privilege Bill, Thank you, James Bogan. All right, let's continue with more. The line becomes available eight six six sixty four seven, seven three three seven. Remember Carlos Danger, the social media name of Anthony Weiner. Hillary Clinton was so bad with classified documents, some of the most highest category sci top secret, that she permitted directly or indirectly those documents to get into the hands of Uma Aberdeen or top assistant. And of course her

husband was Carlos Danger aka Anthony Weiner. So God only knows where those documents went. But no prosecution took place, did it. Let's continue with more. Bill cunning in the Great American with you every Sunday night. In this one, my Billy Cunningham, Let's continue. I had a fall about an hour and a half ago about whether or not the President can simply mentally say in his own mind that all the materials at Marlago have been declassified. And

the point is that needs to be litigated. The US Supreme Court decision of a nineteen nineteen eighty eight, said Justice Harry Blackman wrote in the opinion said, the president's ability to classify and or declassifying control access the national security information flows from the Constitution. He alone decides, no one else. So what is the manifestation of that fact? The President is now saying repeatedly that he

declassified the information, there can't be obstruction of a crime. And materials he may have shown others were all declassified at the time. So I'm waiting to see what that is. I don't know, must continued. Of course, Justice Clarence Thomas has gone through a living hell for quite a period of time, and Judge Mule, the par of the Sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals, has written a brand new book out this week, The People's Justice,

referring to Clarence Thomas. I'm going to talk with him about Clarence Thomas and more. Phil Cunningham, the Great American. I try to be a great American as great American as Clarence Thomas. Live with you every Sunday night. I want to improve w l W available anywhere you go on the iHeart Radio ACTA downloaded now Willie bad of the Ball rocking you by choice. Hotels he cut a lodging William Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book

at Choice Hotels dot com. Now he was the man who's been recognized its radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Mark Coney Awards for he is broadcast excellence, the one and only, the old cunning Head, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Of course, there's no justice on the Supreme Court who has received more condemnation from the critics and the sayers and the soothsayers. And perhaps the greatest justice on the US Supreme Court is Clarence

Thomas. I've had the honor a couple of times having him on the air with me many years ago, and I think largely now he might be hunkering down a bit because of what's happening in the mainstream media. And there should be libraries named after him, schools named after him. Bridge is named after him, and it's not going to happen because of the way the mainstream media has treated him. I call myself the voice of the common man. To

large extent, Justice Clarence Thomas is the people's justice. And to confirm that a great judge in his own right, judge a mule, the par has written a book, The People's Justice, Clarence Thomas and the Constitutional Stories that to find him and Judge the par welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Judge, I would note that you've served many years as a judge, for about about fourteen or

fifteen years District Court judge. You're on the sixth Circuit US Court of Appeals. Before that, you were a US Attorney. You've been a member of the Federalist Society. You were one of the six judges interviewed by Donald Trump in twenty seventeen to take the seat you meet eventually going to Brett Kevanall and you're one of the brilliant judges in America on the Circuit Court of Appeals. But to get this thing started, why did you pick Clarence Thomas as a

person to write this book? In my left hand, which is fabulous. I read it the last two or three days over the weekend. Can you tell me why you picked him as subject matter? Yeah, that's a great question, Bill, Thank you very much for having me on. And what an introduction. I'm going to have to have my wife and kids looking because they won't believe it. But I really appreciate the introduction. So the reason I picked Clarence Thomas, let me take a step back. I'm the child

of immigrants. My dad came over here with five bucks in a one way ticket and had to figure out how to make a living for himself, go to school, and eventually raise a family. And whenever I complained, he said the same thing to me, this is the greatest country in the world. If you can't accomplish it here, there's no way you can accomplish it.

So he would not accept any sort of whining or failure. Justice Thomas's grandfather was very similar in that he would say whenever Justice Thomas complained, then a young Clarence Thomas, his grandfather who raised him, said, old man can't is dead. You know how I know, I helped bury him. And it's that type of mentality that we both grew up in. And what I wanted to know and what I started to study is I was an originalist.

I became an originalist because originalism is the only way to honor the will of the people. And Justice Thomas now that Justice s Glia's sadly path is perhaps the ultimate originalist, and so what I wanted to know is what's behind it, what's behind originalism? And I didn't want to tell people that. What I wanted to do is tell people the stories of the cases and let people decide for themselves. It's originalism and Justice Thomas's originalism in particular, is

better or worse for the country. And as the publisher says in the jacket, even the critics may be surprised by their answer. What surprised me so much, as you pointed out in the intro, is that we often hear the critics, but they rarely let you read Justice Thomas's words. In other words, when you hear the criticism, you don't see his words. They paraphrase, they take out of context. What I wanted to do is tell the reader. I assumed all of my readers would be intelligent people. I

wanted to give them the stories and let them decide for themselves. So I picked twelve cases from the Supreme Court. I interviewed the participants in the cases. I interviewed the lawyers, I interviewed the plainists. And they're the real heroes. Justice Thomas is the protagonist of originalism. As you see, we as judges are merely trying to discern the meaning of the people that passed the

law and how it impacts people. And it shouldn't surprise people that when we do that, we honor the American people's will, and by doing so, we often find it protects the little guy from the government. After all, the Constitution's a contract with the government signed the American people gave up certain things

in exchange for a limited federal government. Yeah. And I had a dinner with maybe one of the mentors of Clarence Thomas, up being Antolen Scalia and a little Italian restaurant in Toledo, Ohio, where you spent time as a kid, and I went to law school in Toledo, and we have a great radio station and Toledo that listens to me every day. And I'm having a dinner with him. There were four or five of us there at a

table, and after a dessert, he would reminisce about cases. He spoke glowingly of Clarence Thomas, and he said, many times, it comes down to two words. And I said two words. He said, no matter what the issue might be, if it's constitutional, it's two words. And everyone's leaning forward to Scalia and he looked with those eyes at his and said, who decides? And he said, Justice, what do you mean? Who decides? He said, do we decide nine old men and women in

Washington, DC? Or do the people decide under the ninth and tenth Amendment? He said, too many times activist judges say I'll decide and take away the constitution, take away the constitutional Republic, take away the Congress. And so when you say who decides, isn't that the heart and soul of federalism. Yes, that's exactly the heart and soul. And what Justice Thomas or

Justice Schalia have this great say? He said, I'd rather have nine people, randomly chosen out of the phone book decide the ultimate issues of today than the nine judges in this building, meaning the nine justices of the Supreme Court. And his point was he trusts the American people. Originalism and textualism is about trusting the American people. You see that in this book. But what else you see in the People's Justice and Justice Thomas is the People's justice is

that he truly is. And you'll get to go through the stories. One of the stories I'm sure you saw is about Warwick done, Yes, war Done, Who I'm sure your listeners know, was a superstar football player in the NFL, one of very few running backs with over ten thousand yards. He was five eight with a heart of gold. What people don't know is his story at eighteen years old is the oldest of six children, his mom

was brutally murdered. She was a police officer, just trying to make money to raise a family and get them a house and a single mother and she was brutally murdered. And chapter, the chapter called about Brumfield, called the Picture, traces the stories of the killer constantly challenging his conviction, and Warwick Done picking up the pieces. And it culminates where they meet in prison, where Warreth Done goes to see his mom's killing. Yes, and it's just

it's it's heart wrenching. And you and I know Justice Thomas cares passionately about people. In fact, no greater authority than his colleague Justice. So to my horse that Justice Thomas is the one justice in the building that literally knows every employee's name, every one of them. She said. He's a man who cares deeply about the court as an institution, about the people who worked there, about the people. What role, what role judged the part?

Do you believe that the race of Clarence Thomas has and the vicious criticisms and the fact that mainstream media would never do a positive piece about Clarence Thomas or his wife Jenny, But do you think race plays a large factor? And the bovine schatology thrown at Justice Thomas. You know, I don't know what goes into his critics mind, but you're you're putting your finger on something because they've called him the cruelest justice, stupid and uncle Tom and a traitor to

his race. And if you don't believe me in the book, I have an end note including all the criticisms, because when you read them, your skin will cross. You won't believe they're saying this about him. One thing, then you read the book, speak to me. He will never get

a fair shake in the mainstream meat because it doesn't fit. And if there's more and more black conservatives out there who are originalist and think through difficulties from through the prism of a Thomas or Scalia, if more and more judges and Americans do that, then liberalism is in more trouble than it should be. I would ask you as Justice Thomas's identity as a black conservative made a difference in your life because you're one, I think, the second Indian American to

be on the United States Court of Appeals. I look at the way some Court of Appeals justices have been traded at Stanford Law, which is disgusting. But how has his identity affected you, judge? You know, it's given me. It's empowered me to have the courage to always do the right thing, and that's an important trait. I think it's a little easier. I

mean, people give us a lot of credit when we have courage. It's a little easier for us to have courage than the lid against When you read this book and you read about Otis McDonald, who brought a case because he needed a gun to protect himself, a black American in inner city Chicago asking a veteran asking to have a gun and getting you know, most people that stand up for rights or heroes, he was ridiculed, talk about courage.

So it's a little easier for us to have courage when there's litigants like that. And that's one thing Justice Thomas realized. And the only thing critics don't tell you is he has, as you just said, a black conservative voice, and it rings through in this book. In The People's Justice, it talks about his black conservative voice, and I think people will be shocked. And it's his words, not mine, that are in the book. I

quote them, and his words so strong. When he talks about historically black colleges and I'm quoting him, he says, it never ceases to amaze me that the courts are so willing to assume anything that is predominantly black must be inferior. Right, I mean you think about that. And here they're calling him an Uncle Tom, and he's saying, stop assuming we're stupid because we're black. It stout, assuming we need anyone else. We can accomplish all

we want to accomplish in the greatest country in the world. And he did it. But you talk about a one way ticket, a one way ticket for your dad from India was a motivating factor. There's no way back. Can you tell the American people give us a couple of minutes on the upbringing of Clarence Thomas and why he's not elitist. Yeah, I mean he grew up I talked about it. He grew up on a dirt floor in a

one room shack. His mom was making ten dollars every two weeks. She couldn't raise him and his brother, so she dropped him off lovingly with their grandfather, who raised him with a ruler and sent them spent all his money, saved all his money to send them to Catholic schools because he knew, as Frederick Douglas said, that education means emancipation, and so he understood that, and he Justice Thomas Sundays didn't get three meals, and yet his grandfather

did everything in its power to raise him, send him to Catholic schools and give him a chance to succeed, just like my dad made a conscious decision when he came here, and least to his kids here. My parents said, we are going to teach you English first, even though it's not our first language, because we want you to be on equal footing and be able to succeed in this the greatest country in the world. And think about it. I've met with multiple presidents. I've been appointed three times to the US

Attorney, to the District Court, and to the Circuit Court. As a child of immigrants, my parents went through a naturalization. What other country in the world could that be accomplishing? What other country could a kid from a dirt poor growing up in a shack in Georgia rise all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. He's attacked constantly, yet anyone that knows him knows he has this loving and warm personality. Justice Friar Justice, So

to my art. They talk about repeatedly what a kind and gentle man he is. And you know, one of the sickest things, Judge the par is the fact that Clarence Thomas is often a betraying his race. That is, if you're black, you have to act, pretend to be in a certain way, have political viewpoints of a certain type, rule in a certain way, because obviously, according to the liberals and those angry at Justice Thomas,

being black means you must have a leg up constantly. And he would find that awfully objectionable, that he's betraying his race and why he's attacked as and Uncle Tom, do you think Justice Thomas at this point, after thirty two years on the US Supreme Court would takes those criticisms to heart and is angry about them. I know, well, I know he would argue against it. Constantly, But you think it hurts him that because you're black or an Indian or a white you have to think and behave and rule in a

certain way. How offensive would you find that as an Indian American that is a person of color. Judge the part there's something that you have to do and rule a certain way because of the color of your skin. Yeah, I mean, I think we all find it offensive to say we have to think a certain way. I know, if you tell your own kids they

have to think a certain way, they find it offensive. And Justice Tom has said himself that he will assert, and I'm quoting from the book, my right to think for myself, to refuse to have my ideas assigned to me as though I was an intellectual slave because I am black, To state that I am a man free to think for myself and do as I please, And to assert that I am a judge and I will not be consigned to the unquestioned opinions of others. And the People's Justice talks about that.

He responds to that while he may be hurt by the criticisms, I don't know. I haven't asked him. I know he will never let them affect him because he takes his oath to the constitutions so seriously and in the People's justice. You see that firsthand in his own words. You see it through the party's eyes. You see what it means to the women trying to challenge

Bill Cosby having Justice Thomas on their side. How many times do you see that reported was full on saying it, But he was saying, though, it shouldn't be that the law stops the victims of Bill Cosby from challenging his lies about them. Well, you've taken choice. Yeah, he is what a judge should be, has been, could be, and it's amazing. I'm waiting for a positive piece on sixty minutes on some other national program.

Maybe the New York Times or Washington Post would do a positive piece in my In his thirty two years on the bench, in my forty years in talk radio, I've never read a positive mainstream media piece about the upbringing of Clarence

Thomas. His brilliance, his ability to turn a phrase, the fact that he's originalist, the fact that he believes in the Constitution, the fact that he's known and respected by those around the US Supreme Court, that the fact that he's been clear aired of ethical violations repeatedly by the US Judicial Conference that has never reported. They will report lies and distortions, but never the truth.

Judge the part. We could spend all day on this. But how did the American people get a copy of This book comes out nationally on the twentieth of this month, June. But how did the American people get an early copy? Yeah? I go to Amazon right now order it. We have a Twitter page they just put up at ct const Stories. You can find it on Twitter. We'll have all the reviews there. They'll have all

the blurbs there. But you can order it right now on Amazon. Hopefully you'll leave me a review and Bill, I'll come back and maybe your readers can send you some questions after they've read the book, and I'd be happy to answer. You can pose them to me, or we can do it however you'd like. You were the first radio show I got to do, the first piece of press I got to do. I'm honored to do it. I wanted to do it in my home city, and you made it

a possibility. So thank you God bless you for doing it. Well. You got an appointment in about two months. Judge A mule at the par And you've led a brilliant life yourself. And because of the journey and because of the things that you've gone through in your life and your family's gone through, I know that gives you insight into the soul of Clarence Thomas. At the end of his days, he will rest in heaven next to God Almighty.

He's a great justice. Clarence Thomas and Judge the par once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and doing me the honor of your first interview. Thank you, Thank you very much. God bless you. All Right, let's continue with more if a line becomes available eight six six six four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham The Great American Live

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my, Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, we're living in essentially the third Obama term, separated by four years of Donald Trump, and some say a fourth Obama term is going to start in twenty twenty four. A new book is out Obama's True Legacy, Barack Obama is true legacy, how he transformed America. And of course the author of this great book is Daniel Greenfield. And Daniel Greenfield, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

And I want to go back to the beginning, Daniel, but I want to skip ahead briefly to a meeting that happened in the summer of twenty sixteen when Obama was in the White House in the Oval Office and the re meetings held about the false information about the Republican candidate. At that point, Donald Trump explained to the American people what happened at that summer meeting in twenty

sixteen, Well, well, King at was it was a coup. It was an attempt to target political opponents using the entire might of the intelligence community, the Justice Department, and to do it under the guise of national security. Of course, we know a good deal of that. What is supports to remember is that the people doing this have not actually gone away just because Obama is out of office, because it's not just about Obama. What we

focus very much on Obama. What we're talking about is the Obama administration, which means the people who are doing it are still very much an office in the Biden administration. And while some people, a few of them have paid the price. We've seen Peter Stir's k and Resa Page, the kicked out of the FBI, the bottom line is that the people, the entire network, the networks, the Clinton and Obama network that bill this, are still

very much where they were before. So for those who only read the headlines, imagine a meeting in the summer of twenty sixteen and all the polls were indicating Hillary Clinton was very likely to win. But there was a problem because James Comey was holding a news conference in July that said that this email server difficulty of Hillary Clinton was extremely serious. If a Republican had done it, there would have been a multiple count indictments against Hillary Clinton and god knows who

else. But because there was a fear that someone outside the circle would win. Obama, Biden, others, National Security Clapper Comey got involved in a conspiracy to do what did Donald Trump. So they were going to stop. They were going to stop. I mean, what was at stake here beyond the election, was having their abuse as exposed. They could not risk a Republican industration coming in, certainly not a Trump administration coming in and peering back

all their sins over eight years. So they needed to stop Trump by any means necessary. And the Clinton campaign had already produced a good deal of materials for the angle that they wanted to follow, which would become to be known as Russia Gate. It was this claimed that Trump was tied in with the Russians. We've all seen this play out with the stew Dartie. But the key reason why this was so important is this was not just a line of

political attack. It was a line of investigative attack. And as they just said that Trump was a bad, bad man, that would not occasion any action by the Justice Appartment alone by the intelligence community by bringing in Russia. This was a calculated plan coordinated with the Obama White House to make sure that the intelligence community would be brought into this, that they'd be able to treat this like a foreign enemy threat, which meant that all the gloves would be

offered, be no legal protections whatsoever. And running this past and Biden was part of the process because ultimately the buck did indeed stuck with them, so I would imagine then September October, it was still looking like well things were working. The leaks from the Obama administration to the news media in this country indicated that Trump was a Russian asset, when the opposite was true. It was Hillary Clinton who committed illegal behaviors with Russian to find dirt about Trump during

the Miss World contest. It proved to be false. The FBI knew it was false, the ci knew it was false, the d I knew it was false. But after the election, when Trump won, then the real panic set in because now, oh my god, well we got a real problem now, because we've been lying to federal judges with affidavits before the Fires

Accords to get illegal search warrants. And if Trump is actually not tied down with impeachments and tied down as president with investigations, we all might be found out how much of a panic was Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the FBI in in January, February, in March of twenty seventeen. There was certainly a lot of concern there. And now, unfortunately the reality is that Republican administrations don't have a great track record of going back what the bureaucracy was doing.

And so a few of these people actually paid a price. But they were absolutely worried. They believed that potentially, if you know, the Trump inmisation had executed the material they actually revealed all of this because right now we've seen pretty much nobody go down for anything. The quote the quote of the Durham Report ended with basically nobody facing any consequences. Kevin Klein Smith ended up with a year which is served basically on probation had they left this organization.

The other two cases fell through, but they were absolutely afraid that they would face the most serious consequence as possible, and so they had to do anything possible to protect themselves. And so we through like a thirty month process with the Muller Report, and after all that, thirty FBI agents, tens of millions of dollars he test devized before the Congress in the middle of the Trump term. There's no there there, There was no Russian effort through Donald Trump

to affect our election. It was all a bunch of bs. We go through really three years of the Durham Report. He comes out about a month or two ago with the same information. No one's taken a fall other than the Kleine Smith, which means nobody took a fall of those responsible, and that continues today. So then the Biden clan takes over and the old Obama crowd comes back into the White House in order to run the Biden administration.

Secondly, how Obama destroyed race relations in America for his political gain, leading to the broken nation we have today. Fifteen twenty years ago, race relations were pretty good. Obama gets elected in November of twenty eight. At that point, the great majority seventy one percent of American people say race relations are great. A person is judged by the quality of their work, not the

color of their skin. Things are good. But then the twenty ten election rolls around and it looks as if Obama is going to get is gonna lose big time. So Obama played the race card. How did Barack Hussein Obama destroy race relations in America after and during his presidency. But we are still kind of dealing with the aftermath of the twenty twenty Blacklads Matter Rise. But all this really got it start as an electoral program, as you said,

under Obama. You know, initially Obama built his image on being a non ratio. There's not a black America, white America. He comes in twenty ten, the myth terms are bad and they're only getting worse each time a sum An election comes up. He jettison's the whole post racial thing. He becomes an explicit three ratio warrior. And part of that is using the Justice Department to cultivate or will become Black Claws Matter. Before Obama, race riots

really very much in the rear view mirror. People would walk back to the La riots in the nineties, and that was a long time ago. Obama ushooting the new wave of race riots and the key moment where it was the Ferguson riot, which Obama's Justice Department came in and actually cultivated the organized There is a part of the Justice Department people who generally don't know about the Community Relations Team whose goal is to resolve racial conflict. They operate secretly. They

came into Ferguson, they beganizing and bringing everything up. They helped build this organization and they were doing it in obviously there's a larger leptics agenda here, but they were doing this also to help Obama and Democrats win elections. You actually see a pattern of these things the Ferguson rights in twenty fourteen. Before that has been events in twenty ten, twenty twelve, and of course the snow cut incidence that all this was happening in twenty twenty. These things are

scheduled around the elections. They're meant to boost turnout, especially in the black community, and intimidate political opponents. So these are not just race rights, their political campaign events that were being organized from within the Justice Department. We talked about rushing again in the Justice Department, the race rights also coming out of the Justice Department. Well, hands Up, Don't Shoot was a lie,

And in twenty fourteen Obama was rather tenuous about his legacy. What was going to occur and when hands Up, Don't Shoot proved to be a lie,

it took about nine months for that to occur. There was no recompense to see and ends of the world which has collapsed, set up camp in Missouri and said we're here for the duration, and they kept putting on individuals to tell lie after lie after lie that the police officer was the victim of a vicious assault by Michael Brown who had just committed a strong arm robbery and

a delicate tessant, and the call went out. The police officer, I think his name was Darren McGavin if I'm correct, he shows up at the scene to see what's going on, and Obama Justice Department, after about a year determined then Michael Brown turned and ran at the police officer, assault at the police officer inside is Ferguson police car. And then that is what was

being told by some in the beginning. But by the time CNN and the mainstream media got done, race rides broke out all over the country and Obama was uniquely positioned Daniel Greenfield to stop that from occurring, but failed to do so. He wanted to format racial difficulties because it fit his political goals, and if he was a popular president in twenty twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, none of this would have happened, but he had to gin up the black

vote in the liberal vote. So Obama used race rides for political purposes. That continues through today, and Black Lives Matter has collapsed the organization because the leaders of that group use all the money donated to build great homes. Now, thirdly, I want to talk about Biden carrying on AMA's policy of financing terrorism in Israel. As you may know, about two weeks ago, I completed a two week tour of Israel. I came back more and more positive

about the Jewish people and what's happening in Israel than ever before. How did Obama poisoned America's relation with Israel that continues with Biden today. Well, unfortunately, we're at twenty people killed in Israel so far this year. This is something that we can very much trace to Obama and Biden the by administration. As we started massive amounts of age to terrorists, as Obama did, and Obama very calculated, we decided to create a break with Israel because he wanted

to shift the support over to Iran, to Islamic terrorist state. He did this very effectively by using the media to create this myth that the Ken Yahoo Prime minister's yell of Israel was somehow insulting him on a regular basis, and of course once again playing the race card and claiming that this was racism. These things were escalated really as part of again they foreign policy dispute, because the Commonization wanted to support the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a cousin of Al

Qaida in Egypt and in other places, they wanted to back Iran. As part of this, they had to dump america traditional allies Israel, Egypt, saw the Arabia, and other countries that have been traditionally aligned with the United States. Obama talked about doing this as far back as two thousand and five, two thousand and six, long before he was seriously going to be president. This was part of the Islamic agenda. Yet he racialized this, and

once again this was the pattern we discussed before about creating racial conflict. He was creating racial conflict in an area of foreign pols, in an area of Americans relationship with Israel. But there was a point that where everything just became

about racial no matter what. And meanwhile, Israeli Jews and even Americans who were non Jewish like they were forced who was a veteran of Afghanistan and Iraq who was killed in Israel and result of the tail Force Acts funding Paris in Israel, these people were deal also being supported politically and economically by Obama.

How dangerous is it right now? Because my time in Israel, I suppoke to some Israeli government officials and they said, this is about the most dangerous time we've had in the past several decades because of what's happening in Iran, because of the policies of Baraku, Saint Obama and the Alkalights that run the Biden administration. From Obama, why do Israeli's feel as if this is a very dangerous time because of America's non support of Israel. What's happening now with

Iran? What's happening with Israel? Give us your view on that Iran is moving forward with its nuclear program. This was always going to happen. This is what the Obama ran you amounted too. The only difference is that they've had trouble lowering sanctions on Iran, but they've managed to get billions of dollars in sanction really through South Korea, through other sources to Iran anyway, which

means Iran has more money to finance terrorism. It has more money to pursue its nuclear program, and a nuclear program is not just direct hit at Israel, but at Europe and America. They're using ballistic missiles that they're getting through Pakistan through North Korea to build weapons they can strike much further out and beyond that. Iran's financing terrorism in is Row, and the bidenstriation is also financing terrorism in Israel. So there's been an upsurge of violence under Trump, three

people were killed in Israel in twenty twenty after he caught aid. This year, a radio has been twenty people dead. So that's a massive increase in casualties. And while most of Israel is still basically safe rocket attacks, terror attacks are a growing reality, and they're growing because we're putting money into Iran. We're putting money into the PO and other terrorist groups. Lastly, about a minute remaining, isn't it true that Obama and all of his friends and

alkohlights manipulate in control the Joe Biden administration. It's the Bimus Mission consists of Elizabeth Warren's people and Obama's people. They're the most radical elements around and Obama con vacation permanently in Hawaii. But his people are still at the wheel. They're the ones who set policy. Biden hardy sets policy, hardly knows where he is. The destructive policies that are undermining America, brought American at home,

they're allowing China free rank are coming from Obama's people. I'll tell you, Daniel Greenfield, it's frightening. And I had a guest on a few days ago that talked about the next administration. Maybe Joe Biden is the presidential candidate and Barack Husaint Obama is the vice presidential candidate. Many have gone to Michelle and said, you got to run for president. She says, I don't. I don't want to run. My life's too easy. But Barack

Husaint Obama could run for vice president. Even the twenty second Amendment doesn't talk about running elected as vice president. Then he would be the president if and when Abiden mentally cannot perform, in which case he's the acting president. And most scholars I've spoken to said Obama could become the president again, just can't run for reelection in twenty twenty eight, where we may have a twelve year cycle of Obama is the leader of this country internationally destroyed the four years of

Donald Trump's administration with lies, and the media seldom reports on it. But Daniel Greenfield, your book does which is Barack Obama's true legacy? Is out now. Dennis Praeger says it's profoundly disturbing, and once again, Daniel Greenfield, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck. Let's get the word out to the American people. Thank you so much. Bill

cunning Him, the Great American live with you every Sunday Night. In this week's Marketers Report, I feel a cunning Him thanks for our listening tonight and some great gusts out more coming up, including US senator and including former FBI agents next Sunday night. I'm gonna stay with it because too much is at

stake. This is not a Banana Republic. I love Chequidas, but let's face it, I don't live in a Banana Republic or the Democratic Party can prosecute the leader of the opposition party and maybe lock him up before the election. There are too many profound legal issues at stake, including what's happening in the US Supreme Court. Unanimous decision nineteen eighty eight Navy versus Egan, who said that only the president can classify or declassify any national security information, and

that ability flows from the Constitution, not from the Congress. And so if the president can show that, which he has said repeatedly that he declassified everything that was taken to mar Lago, if he can show that directly or indirectly, guess what, the case evaporates. You can't obstruct a justice or obstruct the discovery of a crime that doesn't exist. And even though there said referring to Trump, a few months after that, somehow he showed his buyer for

some classified information and said certain things. If that information he showed was declassified by the President while still in office, the whole case evaporates. And that is a fear that the Democrats had. I want the Trump standard to be applied to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Now wouldn't that be enjoyed? Thanks for listening, Bill Cunningham, the great American with you and all other great Americans every Suddent years. Hi, I'm Joe Sweene