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Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 6/09/2024

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Willie tells the story of his father. He is also joined by Jeff Crouere, Leland Vittert, Erica Sanzi and Joe Chester.

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Willie Brock You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his his broadcast Exodence, the one and only Bill Cunninghead. Now I Philly Cunningham, the great American, and tell you what a lot planned for Tonight. We're gonna review the week that was and

planned the week that's I had so much more. As you know, Next Sunday is Father's Day. I'm gonna give you my Father's Day story a little later on so that you have time to cogitate in the next seven days to see if my words have some impact. If you're a strange from your own father, maybe the things I did in my life wrongfully will serve as a lesson as to what not to do. We'll do that a bit later on.

Coming up tonight, we're going to have on Jeff Crue Air talk show host and author from New Orleans to talk about a colony wrote which is the Trumpster is no justice and no peace for Donald Trump tomorrow. He's got to visit I guess online with his probation officer to get ready for the PDR. The probation apartment report so that the judge Mershawn bought and paid for. Judge Juan Mershawn from the Great Nation of Columbia will sentence this defendant having more known

history about him. Normally, a PDR is used for a defendant when the judge knows nothing about the case and says, okay, I got a sentence this guy, and he may have pled guilty. What's his name, does he have children, where he's from, What's he done in his life? A previous record, what are his plans for the future. I think with Donald Trump, none of that applies. Mershawn's going to go through the charade of having a PDR done on Donald John Trump, so he has some knowledge.

The history and the sociological advances are locked thereof of a defendant. Mark my words to lie the eleventh is that it he's going to be sentenced to a jail or to home incarceration. So the Democrats do not want him to campaign. That's what's going to happen. You want to bet me a hot fud Son. You on that, raise your hand, Danny boy Glees and my producer did not raise his hand because this has been a political show trial since it began and it's going to continue. And the fact that he'd be

put on probation in order to pay some small fine. What should happen in every case with a seventy seven year old man with no previous record on a paperwork violation and New York City, for God's sakes, are you kidding me? You can treat a cop said like a soccer ball in New York City and nothing happens to you. So this is a charade we're going to go through. In July eleventh, I don't know if the Donald's going to be at the RNC in Milwaukee. I think the Republican National Convention is like July

fifteenth to the eighteenth. My sister is a delegate from Ohio. Is I hope vote for Donald Trump? She tells me she is, But that convention could be wild one way or another if the nominee can't be present because of the Democrat Party. That's beautiful. Also coming up later as Joey Chester, a Federation of American Immigration Reform which is fair. New stories out on Friday.

This is from Sarah Arnold of townhall dot com, which is a great publication, and she points out that housing costs or skyrocketing because we have fifteen million new migrant slash tenants and no place to put them. We have no place to put them, and that number is growing. So fair, we have no place to put these, says Susan Arnold, and also Donald Trump. And the price of a square foot in a housing unit or an apartment

has increased eighty five percent since twenty nineteen. Does the media cover this? By the way, does the media cover the fact that Joe Biden's led in about fifteen million people who have to live somewhere with no housing being constructed because of the cost of doing so. When you have less supply and more demand, what happens to the price of something? It goes up? Right. Oh no, the media won't cover it, but you and I just did.

We're living in a country under Joe Biden that as a result of in Americans unable to afford the American dream, much less an apartment or a house, and it's because of illegal migration. Try to check into an er somewhere, friends, of mine and the work say they're overwhelmed and flooded with the legal immigrants that don't speak of the English, than whenever conceivable medical procedure done on on them for nothing, and every conceivable pharmaceutical drug available for nothing.

Once again, when the use of something goes way up and the supply stays the sam or goes down, guess what the cost will skyrocket? Have you noticed what your medical bills have been in your medical insurance because of Joe Biden. Have you noticed what the cost of apartments and homes are because of Joe Biden? Have you noticed the waiting in emergency rooms his skyrocket because of Joe Biden. Have you talked about inflation because of Joe Biden? Go to Kroger

and try to buy something? What's the price up because of Joe Biden? No matter what it is, it's Joe Biden. Does the media cover it? Absolutely not? Do you? And I? We just did. And one thing really frost me is that Joe Biden is willing to use family tragedies, his own family tragedies, so that he can score some weird political points with certain demographics. Right. Remember he said to a Puerto Rica group I was basically raised by Puerto Ricans. Then he says to a black group,

I was raised by the Black Church. In fact, he talked to a disabled group, and he pointed out that an Aleutian Indian provided him medical care when he was a kid. His great respect for the disabled community. When he went to West Point, he said he was turned down an appointment to West Point. He also said his uncle was eating by cannibals. He also said he marched with he was arrested. I'm sorry, arrested, supporting trying to get to Nelson Mandela Mandela. He was arrested trying to get to him.

He also said he marched with Martin Luther King Junior. By the way, mL King was murdered in nineteen sixty eight, and at that point, Joe Biden was twenty six years old, not in public service. How's that possible. I don't know how well. We do know one thing that he will use the tragedies of his family to advance some weird political point with certain demographics. What's going to happen Monday and Tuesday. I'll tell you what's going

to happen. The Wilmington, Delaware jury is going to either hang or find him not guilty, even though obviously the federal government this time pulled out all the stops to prove that hunter Biden lied on a federal form when he said he wasn't using drugs when he bought a firearm legally, that he lied on the form which carries five years in jail. You arrive done it, Danny

Gleeson had done it. Put the handcuffs on. You're going to Leavenworth and Hunter Biden did this while on drugs by any reasonable method or means necessary. He brings to the courtroom doctor Joe Biden flying back and forth in our dime, back and forth with D Day festivities, and then came out during the trial, which is something we suspected that is. Hunter Biden was a user of young prostitutes from Eastern Europe, had a terrible drug addiction that went on

for years, years and years. He admitted that he slept with his dead brother's widow, So I just concentate on this one for a while. Hunter Biden admitted that he slept with the widow of his dead brother Bo and not only did that, but hooked her on cocaine, on crack cocaine and he charges for that, absolutely not. And so the whole family is just weird, extremely weird, and they get away with it because they have democratic privilege

and they're protected. In Wilmington, Delaware, there's a prominent African American minister, extremely popular in Wilmington, and he is sitting next to doctor Joe Biden to you every day, sitting in the courtroom with seven African American jurors of the twelve, nodding and smiling at the noted minister that Joe Biden brings to court with her every day as if okay, we got this, don't worry.

So are you going to get a conviction of an obvious crime? And my view, no, I'd be shocked if that jury in Wilmington, Delaware, bought and paid for by the Bidens, are going to find Hunter Biden guilty of anything. The best hope is for a course a hung jury. If it was Donald Trump, no question of what would happen. But just bring Republicans to trial in front of Democrats and you get convictions. Bring Democrats who commit obvious felonies to trial with Democrats and you get just the opposite.

But that's the way we are. Let's continue. I want to relate to you. For the last several years with you on Sunday night, I've related my Father's Day stories and to provide as an example of what not to do. I don't know how many millions and millions of Americans right now are astrained from your dad. And men tend to act up more than women. There

are a few moms who act the way some fathers act. I don't mean all dads are most dads, but if there's something wrong with a parent, just it is much harder for a male to be a good dad than a mother. Maybe it has to do with the birthing process, or the togetherness of the baby unborn baby in the mother's womb, whatever it is. And I don't mean to say that, I will say it. Women are better than men, and mothers are the best parents in general. Doesn't apply in

every circumstance. God knows, there's lots of lousy, filthy, dirty women in the world, but the great majority of mothers are those that sons and daughters would run through brick walls to save them. And I had one of those mothers who was just wonderful. Never got past the eighth grade, but she says she had an advanced degree from the College of hard Knocks, and my mother, Mary Ellen Cunningham, who died in twenty nine, was a

graduate of the College of hard Knocks. When she was a teenage girl and the depression struck a night teen twenty nine. She wasn't quite a teenager. I'd be wrong about that. She was about ten years old when she got to graduated from grade school. When she was fourteen, she went to work, and they all did because there was no welfare system. Families banded together

and it was difficult. So I'm watching Saving Private Rhyme and I had some misty eyes because once again it reminded me of the terrible, horrible mistake I made with my own dad. And it is this that when I was twelve years old, think of a good mother, four kids between the ages of thirteen and three, living in a Cape Cod, humble middle class home and little Deer Park, Ohio. And mother and father was my father and my mother, and I knew there was terrible problems because you could sense as a

kid, the arguing, the fighting. Dad didn't come home at night, smell alcohol in his breath constantly. It was a raging terrible alcoholic. When he came back from the Great War, took several jobs, could not stick in any of them, and was at that point in my life my best friend, my baseball coach, you might know, great athletic skills, and from the age of five till I was twelve, he was my coach. Spent more time with him almost anybody else. I shared the same name,

and we looked a lot alike. And every Sounder daughter thinks that they might be the favorite of their mother or father. But I was fairly certain I was his favorite because we spent so much time together. But I knew he had problems. I couldn't articulate when you're eight nine ten years old how to behave around an alcoholic father, because you're eight nine ten years old. But he spent time in a county jail for drunk driving and leaving scenes of accidents.

Raging alcoholic. Became a bartender after he lost jobs at Kroger and Procter and Gamble. We call him Cincinnati Procter and God. Could not hold down work, constant money problems because my mom had an eighth grade education and she cared for the four kids, and I was number two of the four, but I was close to my dad, really close. And then one afternoon my mom sat us down in tears and said, your father has left. Your dad's gone and he's not coming back. First thing I said, is

Mom, is he dead? She said no, he'd left. I said where'd he go? I don't know? And so I had questions and questions and questions. But four, my mother's sister, who called Auntie, that had her own house, very small house. She also worked at Procter and Gamble, organizing coupons from something. We all moved in together. She was living with her other sister and her mother, and then five more move in with her. We had eight and a small house, but we were fed

and we had clean clothes. And as the years rolled by, on Father's Day, I would say to a mom now and then where's Dad? And it was like not heard from him? Literally not a word, never heard. We moved on. The four kids all got advanced college degrees, either juris doctorates or master's and my mom insisted that we all work, and I was doing my job, and I was working, And as the Father's Day rolled by, after many, many years, about fifteen to eighteen years later,

It was out of my mind completely about my dad gone. I assume by that point he was dead. And I was in law school University of Toledo. I lived at thirty five thirty Sheeltenham, which was a apartment building, and I was in law school. My wife worked for the University of Toledo as a secretary, and I worked from eight am to four pm every day. I had to get down to Luca's County court house. I was honored to be a bailiff to Judge Robert V. Franklin, and he was

literally a roommate of Martin Luther King Junior at Morehouse College. And that was from I was in law school from seventy one to seventy five. It took me four years because I worked during the day. I made six thousand dollars a year as a baiale of screwing and witnesses, watching trials, reading verdicts, reading motions, listening to jury deliberations. I got one hell of an

education. So I went on with life, got married. My high school sweetheart didn't have a pot to urinate in or one to empty it into. I thought I might be a golf professional. So after we were married, I got on my volt stob BW bug and drove to Miami, Florida in order to start a career as a golf professional. God knows that didn't work out. Eventually made my way back home. University of Toledo admitted me, so instead of going south, we went to Toledo. Where's Toledo on the

map? Got me a Ohio map. I said, honey, let's go to Toledo. I'm going to law school, which I always wanted to do because I was up Perry Mason and Owen Marshall. So I'm in my third or fourth year. Phone rings on the wall. Of course, you may know, we had no caller idea at the time, and who was calling me? But my dad hadn't seen him in fifteen or eighteen years, completely out of my mind, and I said, who's this? He said, Billy, this is your father. I said really, I said, is

this a prank? He said, no, this is your dad. Hadn't heard his voice in a long time. And I said, okay, when was I born? Gave me the date? I said what hospital was? I born in Saint Elizabeth's, Covington, Kentucky. I said, that's right. I said, who is your assistant coach on Rutter's pharmacy gave me the

name. I said, okay, you're my dad. Now what I'll continue after a break, And I hope at the end of this, if you're estranged from your dad as a daughter or a son, no matter what age you are, the mistakes that I made you will not repeat with your own father. Well, let's continue and if a line becomes available at eight six six six, four seven, seven three three seven, Bill cunning in the Great American with you every Sunday night. So I said to my dad,

where are you? He said, I'm in Missouri. I said, Missouri. How'd you get there? I knew he took the only family car. We had to drive west as far as you get away from us. And uh, we had no transportation, no money, Uh the family. I was twelve years old, and uh. But for my aunt's intervention, we would have gone into orphanages and my life would have been completely different. But I said to him, you're in Missouri. What are you doing there? He said, I'm I build a new life. He said, well,

that's not why I'm calling. I said, what, Dad, why are you calling? He said, I'm dying and I snipped, I shouldn't have said this. I said, probably deliver disease in kidney. There was a little bit of SI. Yeah. He said, I have liver cancer stage four and kidney cancer and I'm not going to live much longer. And before I die, I want to see you. I want to see you. In tears, his son, I need to see you. And I said, well, you know where I am in Toledo, and he said,

he said, I can't travel, so I'm too ill. I really would like to see you, and I said, Dad, absolutely not. What you put the family through, what you put your kids through, what you put my mom through was unspeakable, and I want nothing to do with you. And I hung up on them. Next call I made was to my mom back in Cincinnati, and I said, Mom, you can't believe we just called me. He said, I know your dad called you and I said, well, he said, how do you know that? He said,

he call here to get your number. He wanted to talk with you. I continue the story on the other side. If you're a strange from your father getting ready for next Sunday Night, listen to what happened next. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night by Billy Cunningham and let's continue. So I said, Mom, what do you think I should do? She said, Billy, just do whatever you want to do. I get it,

and whatever you do, I support you. I said, Mom, I have no desire to go out to Missouri to see him after what it put us through. And I was twenty six, twenty seven years old. She said, Billy, it's your decision. I said, I love you, Mom. She always said I love you too. Billy hung up. About

two months go by and the phone rings again. Well, I was only home because I worked from eight am to four pm as a bailiff and common Police Court, and I went to law school at night six to ten, and also some classes on Saturday. And shall I say I was busy and raising also a two or three year old son, and you know we're busy. And it was good busy. Phone rings rings again, no caller idea of course, and pick it up and it was a little bit of a different voice and said, Billy, this is your dad. I said,

what's going on? He said? They told me I got a week or two to live and I really want to see you. Please come here and please see me in Missouri. I said, Dad, Well, how dire is it? He said, They told me I have a week or two to live, and I want to see you. We looked alike. I share his name. He's my best friend. But we're going back fifteen years. I said, Dad, you warn't a father to me in my life. I'm not going to be a son to you and your death. Goodbye,

and never call again. And I hung up. And my wife says that was a little harsh. I said, well, I'll tell you what. What he put us through is in the unforgivable category. And I and we kind of had a few words, but she thought I should have gone by. I said, Penny, I just I just can't. I can't do it. She said, okay, sure, Dad. So years roll BI. As you may know, I've been an entrepreneur in many things, including opening up sports bars called Willy's Sports Cafe. My nickname is Willy Wi

l I apostrophees and open them up quite successful in the nineties. Opened the first one I think in eighty nine, continued owning him for about fifteen more years. It was sometime around two thousand or two thousand and one. I'm in Willie's and Kenwood, which was my flagship, the first one that I opened up operated. I love that business. And this old man. I'm at the bar talking to some customers. It was in the evening, about seven o'clock and he taps me on the should I turn around. Look at

this guy. He was hunched over. He looked to me like ninety years old old guy. And he said, can I talk to you? And I said, you know, okay, but I only I got a manager's meeting at about ten minutes seven thirty. It's Monday night, Monday night football is coming on, he said. I said, okay, let's get a table. So we were very busy at that point. I go and sit in the restaurant with him, and he said, Billy, I was your

dad's best friend. And from the time he came back from the war and went through the terror and the horrors of alcoholism that went on for about twelve or fifteen years. I listened to the war store. I put him on bond now and then I tried to get him. I just love Bill Cunningham. He said, I love that guy. I said, you know, I loved him too. It's my dad, it's my best friend. Here's my coach, and one day, after years of alcoholism, money problem,

he simply took the only car we had my mom. I'm not sure mom had a license at that time, and just left. Who never saw him again? He said, I know, And I talked to him a lot while he was here. Then when he moved out to Missouri, I went there twice to see him. We exchanged letters here and there and phone calls. He was a great guy. He's funny, good to be with. But he never got out of the bottle, couldn't stop. And at that point in America, alcoholism wasn't a disease. It was a moral failing.

It was shake it off. You don't have to do that anymore. He couldn't keep work, and as years went by, especially after he left it I got into Missouri, he even drank more. And he said, but he was a great guy. He's my best friend. I said, I know the feeling. I said, well, why did he leave? He

said, he told me he felt such shame and dishonor that. We had a local newspaper called the Sycamore Messenger, and every now and then there was a headline cunning him arrested again, and they had a police blog, cunning him out on bond, cunning him this, cunning him that, and he was causing such pain to his kids and to his wife, my mother, that he couldn't take it anymore. And he felt such shame and dishonor. He just got in the car and drove and almost killed himself a couple of

times, going off bridges, et cetera. But he got out to a different state, met another woman, started a separate life, but never gave up drinking. And I said to him, well, why, I guess the question is why? And he said it was Guadalcanal. And I said, guattle Canal. You mean the war in the Pacific. He said, yeah, you know, it went on for about about six months, and your dad was a private I had a picture of him. I threw away

him in a marine uniform. He was twenty two years old, volunteered win and after a year or so of training, he was one of the first to hit the beaches of Guadalcanal. I said, Guadalcanal. He said, it was like summertime in nineteen forty two, and it was hotter than the hinges of Hell, and there were literally thousands of American gis killed. There were tens of thousands injured, and your dad lived. He was shot, but it wasn't a serious wound. He wasn't taking off the island. He

was Medican. He stayed there. He was there for four or five months, fighting and killing the Japanese. He said, he killed and his buddies were killed. His platoon took eighty percent casualties. Your dad was one of the lucky ones. And this went on for months and months months, and he said the worst thing he had to do. And there's a scene in Saving Private Rine at the end of the first ten minutes where you see these

gis floating in the water. They're on the beaches, face down, body parts are gone, and your dad and others had bags, and in the evening and in the early morning they would pick up the bodies of their crew and their fellow marines and put them in bags, and pick up an arm with a leg and the head, put them together and put them in bags. He said that went on and on and on. It didn't stop for weeks and weeks, and every day he was looking forward to, in a

sense being killed because it was so brutal and so awful. It was so awful. When the Marines came out of Guadalcanal, all of them were given short leave because all of them had terrible flashbacks and memories of what happened. In fact, he was bobbing around off the coast of Japan getting ready to be one of the soldiers that invaded hip hand. It was going to start in November December forty five, until the bombs were dropped and his life was

saved. Then he came back home and he had such flashbacks. We would call it PTSD right now, but then it was called it was. It wasn't just shake it off and get on with life. He was shelf shocked as a term that was being used. There were twelve million who went through this, and there were millions of the Saving Private Ryan Crew all over the South Pacific that lived through a living hell and they were simply told to shake it off and get to work. Well, your dad couldn't shake it off.

And if there was a ball hit particularly hard, he would duck when he heard a gunshot somewhere. He was in fear. My mom told me he'd wake up in the middle of the night screaming, And I heard his scream sometime at night, and I said, so he left the family because of what he couldn't handle the shame, and he couldn't handle what he went through in Guadalcanal. And I said, oh God, And if you would have gone to see him, he wanted to apologize to you and say he

was so sorry. He wanted to accept his apologies for what he went through. And I said, I had no idea. If you listen to me for any period of time, you know the love and respect I had for American military. You know how my feelings are about police officers, deputy sheriff's correction officers, rank and file, FBI, Secret Service, from the US Martial Service to put their lives in limit risk. My dad was one of twelve million that went away to war, but when he came back from his

experiences, he wasn't the same person. One was born by that point. I was born at the end of nineteen forty seven. Other two more siblings born later on. And he never could get out of the horrors that he saw in Guadalcanal. He couldn't give it up. He couldn't hold jobs, and to him, alcohol was medicine and he needed the medicine all the time. And there was no help for gis that had those difficulties. You couldn't go to the VA and say, look, I got PTSD. I'm shell

shocked, whether go get away. And the great majority of Gis who came back from that war or Vietnam of my generation, or Korea or a Persian Gulf one or two rock, Afghanistan and similar terrible experiences. But in that WARLD World War two, you didn't go in for a year. You went in for years until the war was won. When you came home, it was all glory and parades and all this. Getting a job at Kroger or Procter and gamble anywhere. Driving a cab he did for a while was easy

if you're a marine, guess what. But he could not get over what happened to his mind in Guadalcanal. And when his best friend told me this, I felt lower than whaled. I felt terrible. During the living years, it was an opportunity I had to reach back to offer forgiveness, and I failed. Every generation blames the one before. I know the frustration compete in on your door. I know that I'm a prisoner to all my father

hussle. I know that I'm a hostage all this hawks and beers. I just wish I could have told him in love, I wish I had and I didn't. To me, it's inexcusable. I leave four children of tender years and a loving wife and a mother in that situation when the alternative was to put us in an orphanage, which my mom would have fought like a

warrior poet to oppose. Thank God for Auntie for taking us in. So, my friends, if tonight you have seven days to contact your dad and normally the men are the ones acting up and say during the living years, I want to sit down with you and talk about the sism and find out why we don't get along and find out what happened all the different if you don't, and so I would urge you in the next six or seven days to contact your strange dad and say, Daddy, I know we don't get

along. I know we've had difficulties. I think most of us caused by the father and not the daughter or the son. And I want to make one more opportunity to contact you. Today we have text and emails and say let's get together and have lunch, have breakfast, let's talk because it's too late when one of us die to admit it. So every Father's Day as it approaches, I have tried my best and my time to be the best dad that I could beat to my son and never put him through what my

dad put me through. And there's not an excuse and a reason to leave for kids and a wife and a mother because of Guadalcanal. But when his best friend gave me that story, I wish I hadn't torn up that photo of him in his marine outfit. I just washed him out of my life. She is I just wish I could have to him. I urged you, I urge you to make that connection. I've been doing this for about forty years, believe it or not. I've done a lot of other things.

But it happened again last night. I'm having dinner and I'm leaving at a restaurant, and these two guys walk up to me and said, are you going to do your Father's Day story? And I said, well, I'm inclined to do it, and both of me said, please do it because both of us are estranged from our dads, her rights and wrongs that each of us had done, and because of what you told us. We

contact that our dads and guess what, we're now best friends again. And one of us has to take the first step to say, hey, dad, let's forget the past. Let's get together and talk about it. But it's not going to keep me from having a relationship with you in the future.

And I get that regularly. When I travel the highways and byways from here to Florida out to New York, it happens once or twice a month a woman or a man walks up to me and says, you know, I heard your father day story, and I kind of want you to know that you had a positive impact in my life. So much of talk radio as a city and a cerbic, so much of talk radio as accusations. Have a great show planned for tonight, but on a personal level, one

I solved for the first time in total saving Private Rynd. And the reason I haven't seen it is because when it came out about twenty some years ago. My wife's dad was also a Marine who served in South Pacific, and he was sixteen years old who went to Marine Corps. No burstiments existed when he was born, and his mother had a sign and certified that he was eighteen to get in the Marines. He was shipped out to the South Pacific.

He went through similar adventures on beaches in Tarawoi, oh elsewhere. And he got a hold of Penny and I said, look, my brothers were telling me he was the youngest of ten that I got to go see this movie called Saving Private Ryan. I said, I think I've heard of it with Thomas Hanksman, it's in the movie theater. Said you want to go see He said, well, I'm reluctant to see it. Well let's go see it. I said, okay, So we pick him up, take

him out to the movie theater. We sit there and a little popcorn, little coke, and the movie starts. But Thomas Hanks with my father in law, Penny's dad, my wife's dad. There's a scene in at the conclusion of the first ten minutes when marines are floating in the water, dead down. He's got tears in his eyes. He looks at us and says, I gotta go. I can't watch this. He never talked about the

war, as most did not. My father never articulated the Guadalcanal stuff to anyone other than his best friend and my wife's dad said I gotta go. This is too real for me, got up and left. We never talked about I said, you want to talk about as I can't, so he needn't to help. He said, I don't. He never fell into the bottle. He was a great guy, great marine. He reacted to the horrors of war differently. Let's continue Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday morning,

will my father passon. We didn't get to tell him all the things I had to say, so with their permission, we're going to deal with this again next Sunday night, which is Father's Day night itself. But I thought doing it a week earlier gives hopefully thousands of sons and daughters a week to make the connection to your dad during the living years and next Sunday night. If you want to relate what happened in that attempt to connect, or if

the connection took place, so be it. But I counted for mental reasons. I need to move on. First off will be Jeff crue Air from New Orleans. Bill cunning Under Great American with you every Sunday night. Willie brough you by choice Hotels econnor Rodger Roadway in hotels are serving up double points

for every qualifying stay book at choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham, Collie Cunningham, the great American. Of course, Jeff Truere is a great columnist, talk show host, and author. Gretten so many great things about Donald Trump and about the Democrats. He wrote a new column a few days

ago, no Justice, no Peace for persecure to Donald Trump. It continues to get worse, and I can only imagine what's going to happen July the eleventh. And normally, if he had by that point a seventy eight year old man with no previous record on a paperwork violation, you might not send him to prison in New York State where cop killers are released on bond. But nonetheless I regress a little bit. But Jeff crue Air, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And I loved your column, No Justice,

no Peace for persecuted Trump. That's not the way the media views this thing. Give me the essence of the column and edify the American people. What's coming. Bill, Always great to be with you, Thanks for having me. I would say this, whenever we think the Democrats will not go to a certain degree with President Trump, they go further. I mean I've witnessed

it throughout his entire nine year political career. I mean I was there the day covering the day came down the escalator, and I've just been seeing just this Trump arrangement syndrome get worse and and worse, and it's just absolutely amazing what they do to that man. And yeah, they convicted him, of course on these bogus thirty four charges. It was paperwork violation if anything, a misdemeanor if anything, Bill, And of course they took it to the

full extent that they could. And now the media and the Democrats get to say, convicted valin Donald Trump, and they're going to try to make the most out of that. The good thing is, Bill, I watched the UFC fight the other night. He was treated like a conquering hero. And the money's pouring in the American people see through the sham and it's backfiring on them. And I love it, you know, Jeff, I love Dana

White. And when they walked in. Can you imagine? That was in New Jersey, Newark, I think, and they had twenty three thousand faithful there. There was a couple of scenes for some of the Mixed Martial Arts UFC fighters jumped over the ring. Those rings are about eight feet tall, jumped over the ring and run up to Donald Trump to get a selfie with him. Well, one time it was just before the match, and the other one the winner jumped out screaming, screaming, God, go, Brandon,

go, whatever that is. And then he went up to Donald Trump and like hugged him, sweating like a dog. And people are going nuts. Can you imagine Jeff Creweer. And by the way, that was in New Jersey, not exactly a red stronghold. What if, say, Joe Biden had walked into that arena with Kamala Harrison toe, what would have happened? Can you explain what would have occurred? Bill? All I can say is it would have been ugly. It would have been ugly. And Biden

is pretty slow, but he's not that slow. He wouldn't show up for something like that. And you know, it gives you a great picture of President Trump's support you know, he goes to wild Wood, one hundred thousand people show up. He goes to the Bronx, twenty five thousand people show up. He goes to a UFC match in Jersey. The people go crazy. This guy is popular some of these states. If they say you're blue states. Yeah, I think he's got a chance for a landslide this fall,

Bill, I really do. But well, they led him because you make a great point in your column. In Manhattan voted eighty eight to twelve against Donald Trump. Every member of the jury could not find him not guilty because they'd go home and they would be pillared by their neighbors and friends for the rest of their lives. None of them are going to pay for a drink or a meal. And Judge Jan Mrshawan, who was born in the Nation of Columbia, he'll be wine dined and pocket lined all the way up

to the New York State Supreme Court. And then in Delaware you have a Hunter Biden on trial and about ninety percent voted for Joe Biden. And I'll tell you one thing the Democrats love to do. You know, no one's above the law. The best they can ever hope for, there with Hunter Biden would be a hung jury because the great majority. There were a couple of female jurors African American who pulled out Kleenex and were dabbing their eyes during

the opening statement of the criminal visit attorney for Hunter Biden. And then the first lady is there, And then I guess there's a big time NAACP black leader in Delaware, in Wilmington that is loved and he's like the Martin Luther King Junior of Delaware. And guess who's sitting next to the first lady. I forget his name is Poppy or sweet Lips, whatever his name is.

He's sitting there next to him, and he's nodding his head looking at the black jurors, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, is this a fair And they're assuming he's found not guilty. Well, nobody's above the lower Can you see the writing when Hunter Biden is found not guilty by that jury of simply lying on a form for U Bill, he is obviously guilty. We all know he's guilty. This is only a small fraction of what Hunter Biden did that he could have been prosecuted for. It's called home cooking. Bill

I mean he's got home cooking. I mean, Delaware is run by the Bidens. I mean they have decades of political influence there in Delaware. So yeah, you're right. I mean there's no way, there's no way he is going to be convicted. No way, no judge, just like there was no way Donald Trump was going to be acquitted in the Manhattan courtroom. There was no way. And I just want to just mention this judge is

a Biden donor. His daughter is a high priced Democrat operative that makes millions of dollars off of the Democrats. Bragg campaigned on a message of getting Trump. I mean, the whole thing, as Donald Trump has said, was rigged. I mean, and I thought Matt Gates did a good job of bringing this up to the Attorney General in the hearing, and of course he said, I know nothing about Colangelo, massive Colangelo number three under him a justice. He decides, you know what, I want to enhance my career.

I want to go work and be an assistant in a local prosecutor's office. I kind of want to go from Maine justice to a dirty, filthy courtroom in New York City. That's a career move right there. But of course Mary Girland's out, don't know anything about it. What do you mean? You mean there's prostitution upstairs? All I do is play the panel.

Well what are you talking about? And here's Calizelo over the left shoulder of Alvin Bragg smiling from Maine Justice ship to a New York City County prosecutor courtroom. And this case began as a misdemeanor. So you got number three Department of Justice signing on to Alvin Bragg to help him get get him prosecuted. And then and then you had the age he's got the guts to say, Jesus, I don't know how that happened. Man, that's a new That's

not unusual. It was like a career enhancement. It'd be like my local prosecutor here in Hamilton County, Missy Powers, if she would bring indictments against Joe Biden, and then one of Bush or Trump's DOJ officials came to Hamilton County to prosecute Joe Biden. I think the media would point that out, Am I right or wrong? I mean him? Now, wait a minute, you are that may be at a clue, right there, Sir Sherlock might be right, and I'll say this, I want to see the email

trail. I want to see Foya's done to find out what kind of communication we had between DJ the Biden White House, New York and also Georgia. We have visits to the White House, suspicious visits to the White House. All of this was coordinated. We all know it. This was a political hit job against the leading candidate for President Bill. We see it in Banana

republics. We see it in countries that are tyrannies. This is not the United States of America, where one politician uses his influence to try to remove another politician, and maybe even in prisonmen. You know they want to put him in prison. You know they can't wait for Donald Trump to go to prison. That's their goal. Well, the ladies on the view are having

a conniption fit. In fact, one of the great guests there said that she gets quote wet unquote whenever I think about Donald Trump and prison, and I'm thinking wow. Going back to the fouryer request, of course, Mary Carland was asked, can we get all the communications between you and the New

York County Prosecutor's Office. Can we get the communications between you and the Atlanta Fulton County Prosecutor's office, Nathan Wade to spend a lot of time in the White House along with Fanny Willis, and he said, well, just go ahead and make a four yer request. He didn't deny any coordination. He said, well, you got to ask a Foyer request, and he made a special appointment. Tony Fauci is now in charge of all Foyer requests. And so I'm not sure and doj is going to do a damn thing with

that. But nonetheless, and secondly, Nathan Wade, the lover of boy of Fanny Willis, spent at least sixteen hours in the White House. And he says that they can't talk about what occurred there because it's a client privilege. But nonetheless, would it be suspicious if Fanny Willis's lover was in the White House. How many local county prosecutors have special counsel in Fulton County time in the White House coordinating philosophy? Why would Nathan Wade go to the White

House. What's the purpose of that if there's not coordinator, No inquiring minds want to know, Bill, and you know, Republicans need to push these investigations a lot more than they've been doing it now. Of course, these requests are going to be held up till after the election. They don't want to release anything. They're not going to release the tapes of Joe Biden's interview by the Special Counsel Robert Kerr, because of course Biden could barely articulate.

Biden forgot everything, and if he sounded horrible, they don't want that release before the election, so they're not going to release it. So they're just playing games, and they're trying to protect Biden at all costs. And of course we just need to keep pointing it out and the American people, I think are going to get it. I think the American people understand what's going on here, and I'm sensing I'm feeling bill a landslide coming if there is

an honest election. Well what I want to do? You know, the Democrats are desperate and they're dangerous, and that's a terrible place to be. Get on to another comment you made here, which in your column, which is so good. Afterwards, many Trump voters questioned the election results and is sending on Washington on January the sixth, twenty twenty one to protest during his speech to supporters, which is not a aired by the mainstream media, Trump

encourages followers quote peacefully and patriotically, make your voices heard. He never advocated violence, and in fact appeared on Twitter to encourage his supporters to leave peacefully and respect law enforcement. Because that doesn't fit the media narrative. The media doesn't spend much time on that, do they. No, they all create the impression that Donald Trump incited the crowd, and Donald Trump was right there egging him on to go attack the capital and all that is a lie.

You know. Cassidy Hutchinson said he tried to grab the steering wheel and take the of the Beast over to via capital, and that was of course a lie. Yeah, they created this narrative, this fiction about Donald Trump, which of course is not true. That's why I have to keep pointing out, and I'm glad you do on others the truth about the January sixth thing. He wanted more National Guard there. He wasn't allowed to get the kind

of protection that he wanted for the capital. So I think Nancy Pelosi is really responsible for the horrible situation that occurred there, and of course she was protected by that Sham January sixth Committee Bill. Well, you had two Republicans, hon it. Thank god, we had two great Republicans. Oh yeah, on that committeed to ask those probing questions that need to be answered,

and inquiring minds did not want to know anything. Last late Jane July eleventh is coming up, and I know from when I speak to some of the

RNC that they have contingency plans. And I said, what do you mean, Well, what if he's in the Rikers Island, what if he's on a military base, what if he's in Sing Sing and I'm going to or an uncharted territory if it was if his name was Donald Duck instead of Donald Trump, and he was seventy eight years old and he committed a supposedly a paperwar error, and you didn't know the nature of the charges against him until the closing argument of the state. They didn't let him know what he was

being charged with. What are the odds of a seventy eight year old in New York City on a paperwork mistake when no previous record actually being sent to a jail. What are the odds? Zero zero? I mean, it wouldn't it wouldn't happen, Bill, And you know what, this is backfired

in such a spectacular way that the Democrats might think twice. You know that they want to jail him, they want to put him there, but since they've gone so far and now this is now working against him, they might think twice about it and say, all right, house arrest or something like that, where he doesn't go to Rikers. We'll see. It's going to be very interesting on July eleventh. And of course I'm going to be up at the convention, you know a few days later, and I'm hoping Donald

Trump is going to be there. I'm not sure, Bill, I'm not your question Mark. I'm not sure either, because if he doesn't appear, will there be a convention at all? The answer is yes. They got twenty thousand hotel rooms. They want to party hardy Wisconsin. That's going to be almost like a Taylor Swift concert showing up. And so they're going to do everything in their power. But he may have to be skyped in. I mean, this is absurd that what's happening, But the media is on

one side of the table. I'll give you one last factoy, Jeff crue Air, I saw this at Brent Brozel's MRC network, is that for those American voters who primarily or only get their evidence, only get their news from ABC, NBC or CBS as the evening news, it's the View, and it's the morning talk shows of that group. And that's, by the ways, about forty percent of all voters of that group. Biden's leading Trump fifty

five, the thirty five. And so if you have to rely upon the mainstream media to tell you what a great job Joe Biden is doing and what a convicted criminal, a felon that Donald Trump is, just watch the evening news, the View, or the mornings like George Stefanopolis and guess what. I'm surprised Trump gets thirty five percent. I say, garbage in, garbage out. What do you say? I think the good thing is American people

are turning off those shows. The influence of those programs down dramatically from what it was ten twenty years ago. Their numbers are going to keep decreasing. The American people are looking for other outlets for their news. It's more fair, more balanced, has good information. They are basically just selling the talking points of the Democrats. I had the misfortune of watching the CBS Evening News the other night, and I got infuriated. I'm like, I can't do

this. I'm not going to do this ever again because it's so biased, and I think their numbers are just in the toilet. They continue to drop, and I'm very happy about that. I'm trying to watch lester Holt and I'm waiting for him to say, suddenly, Joe Biden discovered the powers he denied the last three years by having executive orders of the southern border. None

of that happened. What lester Holt talked about the Republican's refusal to assist on the southern border, forcing the President to take executive action, and thank God that we have this man on the White House right now over those evil Republicans who will not help on the southern border. Instead of saying he denied for over three and a half years having the power he now wants to exercise for political purposes, it is just the opposite. So if you watch the Evening

News, that's why fifty five thirty five support Joe Biden. Garbage in garbage O, Jeff Crueir, you're the best on this stuff, and go ahead, give me your final comments. I was just gonna say, my tom a comment was Lester Hult could have said that Joe Biden took ninety four executive actions to create the disaster on the border that we have today, and he inherited a safe border and he created chaos. So it's all on Joe Biden the bill. Of course, Lester Holt's not going to say that, but

I think the American people know that. I saw one of the shows head on this large stack to his right of executive orders on the evening of January the twentieth, twenty twenty one, and he signed executive order after executive order, having no idea what he was signing. He has no clue what he's signing, but the Marxist around him said, here, sign this. He said, great. Wouldn't it be great if lesterol would say, you know, the President created this crisis now he wants to go back to Trump era

policies. Would Lester hold ever say that, No, No, it's true, he would never say it. No garbage in, garbage out? All right? Once again, Jeff crue Air New Orleans based and you have a great mayor there. I like watching her. Shenannikins almost like that the mayor in the South of Chicago. What a wonderful woman she is. But nonetheless, Jeff Crueir, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll do it again. Thank you, Jeff, Thank you, Bill. Take

care, God bless America. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, The Grand American Live with you every Sunday Night by Billy cunning into Great American. Jeff Carrera is wonderful in the way he puts thoughts in terms together. He talked about no justice, no peace for persecuted Donald Trump. There's no question sometime soon, I would think Tuesday, Wednesday, we're going to get maybe a

verdict in Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden's criminality is clear everyone with eyes to see that he violated federal law atf when he was a drug addict and bought a weapon, and then later on in California's got as the trial's coming up on obvious income tax evasion. And so there is no greater scumbag in the world than Hunter Biden, who had sex with his brother's widow after she had died, after bo Biden had died, not only had sex with the with the

with the widow of his brother. He hooked her on drugs, which is, you know, crack cocaine testified, Yes, crack cocaine. How despicable is that human being? About as despicable as despicable can be. And the fact that he would get off on this thing in a very Wilmington, Delaware courtroom is obvious. It's either going to be a home jury or it's going to be not guilty one of the other because it's a Biden. Well,

let's continue with more. Coming up next is that Leland Vitter of News Nation and more the line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Bill Cunningham, I try to be a great American with you almost every so now, Johanna, you and I Now is Leland Vitter of News Nation. And of course on Saturday, Reagan the Portrait of a Presidency is going to air and I was given access to that documentary. It is unbelievable.

And for those who can't recall, we're going back forty years of the speech that Ronald Reagan give and Leland Vetter. The most the most note or the thing about the Reagan presidency is that sometime in December, as he was leaving office December of nineteen eighty eight, Reagan gave a speech from the Oval office, from the desk, and that speech by Ronald Reagan should be studied

for years to come. And that's the reason Bush forty one got elected is after Reagan gave that speech, they said, we want this guy back, and the best they could do was Bush forty one. But nonetheless, what's happening now with Hunter Biden. I want to get talk about Hunter Biden, about Donald Trump, and about of course the landing and the speeches by Joe Biden. Nonetheless that don't quite measure up. But nonetheless I would note,

and you're a big time journalist. You've worked in most of the major media outlets. When I monitor ABC, NBCCBS CNN, MSNBC, and not so much on News Nation, because you're not so ideological that I'm hearing constantly about what's wrong with Americans who want to put Donald Trump back in office. And I have a sense that the elites do not under stand how average Americans lived

their lives. And I saw a report out of Minneapolis, Minnesota, in which downtown Minneapolis is basically destroyed, the law enforcement is almost non existent, and many cities now they use drones. If you dial nine to one one, like in Chicago, they may send a drone to look about what's going on the average American in Minnesota. There's a small town there that had eighteen

hundred total residents and two hundred immigrants showed up. May I say, newcomers with about fifty or sixty school kids, and they didn't fit into the school system at all. They're looking at ramp and crime. When I get my Duke energy bill, it goes up about ten percent every year, fifteen percent every year. You get your real estate tax bill, and that skyrocketing. The kids graduate from high school or college have difficulty finding a job commensurate with

their with their education. So when I look at the cultural and media elites that say you can't vote for Donald Trump because things are so good, after all, he was bad, do you think the media elites understand how average Americans live their lives? Bill, you packed an awful lot into that, But you picked up on something that we're actually doing on the show tonight, which is if you listen to Joe Biden's speech, which I just did at

Point to Hawk, and you compare it to Ronald Reagan. Is political malpractice by the White House to have encouraged that comparison, both by choosing the venue and then going out and saying we're looking for our different moments in so many ways, the writing and delivery, the message, everything, but the underlying message to what Joe Biden was saying, is the real threat to democracy that I can't but want to talk about is Donald Trump Number two? Trump supports

or threats to democracy who are betraying the boys appoint to hawk. It's very clear when you listen to his speech and you put all the other things Joe Biden has said, and that would be a thoughtful political move by Joe Biden if there was any evidence to suggest that it works. And I say that because in twenty sixteen, when none of these situations that you were listed listed in your opening existed. Mirime wasn't a huge deal, inflation wasn't a huge

deal, gration wasn't a huge deal. None of those weren't around on Tary sixteen, and basically Hillary Clinton ran on, hey, I'm going to keep doing another four years of what Barack Obama did, and Trump's terrible. He's a racist, He's a bigot. Can you believe he wants to build a wall, he's a fool? On and on and on and on. Okay,

and it didn't work. So now what they're doing is they're taking the exact same logic and they're going, well, since it didn't work to call him a racist and a bigot and a sexist, misogynistic pig, and to call all of his supporters deplorables, now we're going to call them threats to democracy. That's gonna work. Now. I am not a close I am,

I'm not I am not a partisan. I'm really not know. I am an analyst and a reporter, and at my core a journalist and a guy who just asks questions and tells the world the way I see it on television every night. I don't get it. I don't get doubling down on a strategy that demonizes fifty percent of America. And I don't get the savior complex in reverse of telling America that you're going to save them from somebody else

with no aspirational message. Now it may work, Joe Biden may win, but it's certainly that this this method of politics, to me or this strategy makes no sense. Leyland the other of news Nation is like saying, don't believe your eyes, don't believe what's happening in your life. Listen to Joe Biden. You or I could be handed the greatest speech ever delivered in America, which is I have a Dream by in Martin Luther King Junior. And we could read the words, but it would not have close to the impact

of mL King doing what he did in nineteen sixty three. And I'm thinking, all when I read the Biden speech, and there was some soaring lines. But when you have someone who's not an order, who doesn't know what to emphasize, and if the White House building this thing up, this is Reagan forty years later. It's embarrassing because most Americans live their lives looking at their checkbook. They're looking at the bottom line, They're looking at a paycheck

with inflation. I went to McDonald's a couple of nights ago, and I got two big machs. I had somebody with me and my wife, a couple of French fries and a couple of drinks. It was twenty eight dollars and I'm looking at it. I said, is that right? And it's too expensive? The utility bills. I had on an expert on utilities.

She told me, every year for the next as far as the eye can see, we're going to have about eight to ten percent increase and utility cost every year because the restriction of supply of energy, and it's going to keep going up and up and up. You had Joe Biden say the LNG, no more LNG terminals being built to ship our products to Europe, and that's costing thousands of jobs. But it means natural gas prices or skyrocketing. And right now natural gas is the main way we heat our homes in the summer

and cooler how homes in the summertime. And then you get on the issue of crime. I'd live in a little Cincinnati, Ohio, which is fairly very nice, but now we have numerous offenses being committed by large numbers of doubt ever punched in the face, her valuables are all stolen, and the car was taken, and the media in town is starting to talk about that. And I can't imagine what it's like to live in Chicago, Washington,

d C. New York. I can't imagine what's happening there. So whether it's crime inflation, utility bills, your paycheck not keeping up in a sense of we're spinning our wheels in the mud. To have Joe Biden show up and say, look, he wants to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. He wants to say, you know, we're the Allies and the MAGA crowd

are the Nazis. Now, he didn't say that, but the implication of Hillary Clinton's tweet the other day that talked about comparing her and the Democrats to the Allies and the fact that they're fighting against fatalitarianism and democracy and therefore to vote for US means you're voting with the Allies and not Hitler and the Nazis. That doesn't make half the country feel well, you know what I'm saying. That's true, Yeah, in the sense I hope it doesn't change because

I want to see Donald Trump and the presidency now. Secondly, this isn't a big item on News Nation because it is so partisan. However, I've seen CNN, maybe you don't watch it, and as much as you used to you were on and Fox News, etc. MSNBC, especially the die Tribe now because of the Trump's interviews, is that he may be going after his political opponents, and the host are talking about how bad it would be if Donald Trump went after his political opponents. Now you know the name shape

Leean Ziegler. About a year ago, two veteran IRS agents who are Democrats, each spent about fourteen or sixteen years in the criminal division of the IRS. Wanted to pursue all the money that Hunter Biden and the Biden family, including the Biden grandchildren were getting from overseas interest and they were blocked by their superiors at the IRS. Then they got the DOJ and they were told we're not going to go there. So we have massive bribes directly and indirectly being

paid to Hunter Biden. The laptop is real, despite those fifty one experts. The laptop is real. It details the criminality of Joe Biden and Jim Biden and Hunter Biden. And the media is now saying, well, after all this Hunter Biden trial, I mean, he was a drug addict, and I watched the coverage of the media types saying well, you have to under stand that he's crack cocaine head, and you have to understand, in

other words, don't convict him of obvious crime. And one of The worst things that happened Leland Vinders is that he started having an affair and sex with his brother's dead widow. His brother Bo was dead, he took up a sexual affair with his widow and hooked her on crack cocaine. And I'm thinking, oh, wait a minute, I can imagine that this was the Trump family. The media coverage of that would be unbridled. And so when someone

says, you know what, maybe turnabout's fair play. Go after your political opponents, the media says, dond no, don't go after the Bidens. Don't go after Hillary who committed serious felonies. Don't go after Joe Biden, who committed serious felonies. According to Robert Hurr, just let it go, Donald, let it go. Do you find that somewhat hippocratic? Well, if I spent my time detailing hypocrisy in the media, I would have no

time really to do anything else in my life. Journalists make lousy media critics. I reave that to other folks. That's just not my job. And I always think it's funny when someone goes, no, no, no, but listen to me, because I am the unbiased one. It just doesn't It just it's just not where I go. I think what you've pointed out

is that we are living in really unsettled times. And it's very easy now in retrospect to think about the nineteen eighties with nostalgia and that they were of pure motives and of veterans in geniality, and on and on and on and on. The truth is that the nineteen eighties, and the Reagan documentary that's on Us Nation plays this out of the Saturday Night and shows this, We were in troubled times. We were in conflicted times. There was scandal,

there was real danger, especially from the Soviet Union. There were and I'll use this term, real threat to democracy around the world. There's no question about that. And the difference was how Ronald Reagan dealt with it and in retrospect through the lens of history, and that's an important point. We have the gift of time now to look back on Ronald Reagan and say, why

did what he do work and why was it so successful? Which it was unquestionably, Why has history now given him his due spot in revered status. We see that play out in the documentary, and I think what struck me the most, I don't know about you was how bold it really was. Right in retrospect, it seems like obvious, right. Oh, things are

terrible for Jimmy Carter. So therefore this guy from California who had been governor came along and he said, look, government's the problem, and if you're better off four years ago, then you are now vote for him, if not, vote for me. And then he tackled inflation and he won the cold wol and brought about the great economic expansion in America that turned in to the computer rage was in turn to the Internet age. You freed Europe.

This makes perfect sense, gets from the documentary. Yeah, how bold that was. It was in one of the great moments of this Reagan The Portrait of a Presidency by Sean Compton was a moment the day after Reagan was shot and he was laying in the hospital and we didn't know it at the time. It was touch and go and he did fortunately survive. And there was a moment in the documentary where Tip O'Neil goes into President Reagan bend's over,

kisses him on the forehead and said, Gipper, don't leave us. We need you so badly, And I'm thinking, can you imagine Nancy Pelosi. Let's say God forbid, Trump was shot and he's in a hospital that Nancy Pelosi insists on seeing Donald Trump kissing him on the forehead and said, mister President, we love you, Please get well and come back. Could you imagine that happening today? Look? Is it well? Is it a fair question? Yes? At the same time, I think you have to ask

yourself, would Ronald Reagan's message would his kindness? Would his aspirational message for America? Would he would his unwillingness to engage in the politics of personal destruction and unwillingness to attack the media even though he was attacked, his default always to humor rather than to anger, his willingness to compromise, I mean, in real compromise with Tip O'Neil. Yes, okay, in ways that are never done or spoken about in Washington, if you want to compare it to

Trump, in ways that Donald Trump would never would never compromise. Okay. So I'm not I'm not sure it's fair just to call out one side on this, and I think it so. Look, we we have to be I have to be fair in my assessments. I think there's you got to ask your question with the Republican Party of today, except Ronald Reagan is as standard bear, I don't think so. The Democratic Party, Well, the Democrats accept Barack Hussein Obama for the policy he was the deporter in chief.

I don't think the Democratic Party today would have accepted Clinton the way Clinton ran the presidency, which was working with nuke Ingridge and then I don't think the Democratic Party would allow compromise. I think you're making my point. Yeah. Now, lastly, lastly, Uh, we have a situation where when the State of the Union Address was given near the end of the Trump presidency, the Nancy Pelosi stood up and ripped the State of Union Address live to send

a message. Could you imagine if Speaker of the House, Uh Johnson had stood up at the end of Biden's each in which he stumbled, mumbled and fumbles the way through, and tore up the Biden State of the Union Address on worldwide television. What would have happened? Same thing? Okay, it would have been a disaster politically because Mike Johnson would not have done it,

but the media would have covered it. When that horrible act took place against Donald Trump, there was little or no media criticism of Nancy Pelosi's behavior whatsoever. In fact, they were more or less applauded. That was good. And so when that's the template of the from a fellowship between Democrats and Republicans. We yearned for the days when Ronald Reagan would say, I can't get a hundred percent from Tip O'Neil, I can get eighty percent. Let's take

the eighty percent and work on the twenty. That's not the way politics works today. Well, Bill, this is where the what aboutism game loses me and where I and I think it's important to make this point. Everyone loves to play the what about game? Okay, well, you know ron Reagan wouldn't be in today's Republican But what about Barack Obama? What about Bill Clinton? What was different about Ronald Reagan was different about the great leaders was that

they were different. They held themselves to a higher standard. They were different because they were different, not because they were the same. And they did reflectively and acted as poorly reflectively as the other side did. And I think what America yearns for, and certainly what the polling chose as America yearns for, is a leader who wants to make us better and wants us to make us want to be better Americans. And I don't see either side speaking to

that. And frankly, there were some Republicans in the primary this time around who really tried really hard to deliver that message, and nobody wanted to hear it. Nobody wanted to hear. Hey, I'm going to get to Washington, I'm going to get eighty percent of what I want. I'm going to give twenty percent to the Democrats, and we're gonna we are going to turn America into the shining city on the Hill where all Americans prosper on and on and on and on. Yep, all right, well in it and it

went nowhere on both sides. Well. Reagan Portrait of our Presidency News Nation Saturday. It'll be airing frequently. And once again, Leland Vitter, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck, my friend, God bless you. Let's continue with more. There you have it, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Live with you. Every Sunday night. I

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every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not won, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill cunning Bill cunning under Great America. And of course what's happening in public education is often a disgrace, and it's made difficult anyway. But when large numbers of shall I say, undocumented aliens show up in public schools, it could be a crisis.

There have been a few occasions when the Congress has held hearings on the consequences of Biden's border chaos for k through twelve schools, but it's largely a story that doesn't get a lot of media coverage because it doesn't fit the left wing agenda. And therefore you have to look for outside sources to see what's going on. Ericas Sanzy is one of the officials of Parents Defending Education. I know it's happening here in Cincinnati, also happening around the world. I

can't imagine what it looks like in Houston or Austin. But of course Erica has expertise when it comes to Washington, Washington, DC, and Erica Sanzy, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Erica, can you tell the American people just in general, before there was an influx of literally hundreds of thousands of additional students, many poorly educated, into our public school system, weren't the public schools under stress anyway? Yes? I mean this is

the This is just adding insult to injury. The public schools have been struggling. Even pre pandemic. We had very very low proficiency rates in reading and math. Since the pandemic, we've seen the scores plummet in those areas, and so schools are having a hard time with what they already have on their plates, and so to burden them with an influx of new students, most of whom do not speak the language here, and many of whom have had

no formal schooling in the past. So it's not just that you're bringing in new students to schools, you're bringing in very high need students. And these school districts really just couldnt manage this. And I look at some of these stories given up about thousands. In New York City, there's about fifty thousand additional students going to public schools and a population of nearly one million public school kids. You got fifty thousand. That's five percent, but that five percent

puts them over the top. Also in Washington, d C. There's something called language acquiestion division. Explain what English second language. Let's say you're a twelve year old just show up in a public school in Washington, DC or Cincinnati or Chicago, and you have no education. You can barely understand and speak Spanish, which phonetically is easy for some in Central America but difficult for others. So what are the particular needs of any child that shows up deserving

a public education? But let's face it, the school system can't accept them, And so it kind of walks through what occurs when a kid shows up at the front desk says, here, I am educate me. What happens, Well, the school cannot turn students away, so really they've got to figure out how they're going to navigate this. And what we did is we looked at emails that were going back and forth, you know, with between officials in districts, so that we could get a sense of like how hard

of a time they were having. And again, you're not going to get them out of the microphone saying this is impossible. But in their emails, what we see is basic as trying to figure out space. They don't have the physical space, so they're trying to figure out where they're going to put students. You see a lot of the you know, very compassionate people feeling concerned that the school that the child is assigned to is very far away from

the shelter that's been provided for them. And then we see a lot of talk about how they don't have the staff. They don't have staff who can communicate with these students, most of whom Booth speak Spanish, but certainly not all, and so that's become just another major drain on the system. And the other thing is that English as a second language, or what they call English language learners, those students usually are students where they know English but it's

not spoken in their home. But to have students coming in who have no English at all, I mean, that's just obviously puts them in a category of a very high need student. And again, meeting the needs of one or two is challenging. Meeting the needs of a massive influx, where suddenly a school district is dealing with one hundred and fifty students in this category,

it is just again really really difficult. And this is coming at a time that all of the eser money, so all the COVID release money that school's got that is ending as of September, that money is gone, and so school districts were already trying to write, size and recalibrate their budgets as they need to and as they knew they were going to need to. Unfortunately,

some didn't make good choices about how to spend that money. But to be again burdening them with this influx of students, it's it's a totally unfair burden that the school districts have been asked to carry, and that in the case of the NEA, the largest teachers union, they've come out against the Biden administration's plan to shut the border down or at least, you know, decrease this number of people coming in. So they are so committed to this ideology

of open borders, sta've now thrown their own members under the bus, saying, we don't care how hard it is for you, this border should stay open. It's always difficult. But can you imagine a ten year old girl showing up from Lithuania or Afghanistan or Nicaragua and have little or no English language skills. They sit in a class and do they test in? Do they say, okay, you're ten years old. There's supposed to be what in about the fourth or fifth grade? You're ten years old, but you have

no educational foundation or achievement, and then you don't speak the language. Someone shows up at the front desk, okay, here's your schedule. The first class is down the hallway in room one. Ten. Go into that classroom and sit there, and they have no ability to understand what's being said, and they have no foundation of the first four to five years, which allows

the building points to become more academically disciplined. So what happens to the ten year old who can't speak of the English is our do schools have to assign a mate with them who understands both dialects or both two or three different languages to communicate. How does that work. I mean, in a perfect world, they'd be able to assign someone to them, but those people don't exist. The school district doesn't have the staff for this, and so what ends

up happening. And I've actually seen this back when I worked in schools. Lots of times kids just have their whole day wasted because they are because they have been enrolled in an institution or facility that cannot meet their needs. Now you can get lucky and you can have it could be that the school has somebody who who knows the language, is great with working with newly arrived migrant students. Like you can see progress, but everything has to align for that

to happen, and that's usually in very small numbers. The problem right now is that places like DC Springfield, Massachusetts, which is TA Kansas, another district in Wisconsin. I mean, these places are not it's used to having to deal with this number one and they're just completely overwhelmed. And again they're not getting you know, there isn't really much attention being paid to the fact

that these schools are being asked to manage a burden that is unsustainable. I look at some of these stories and that what happens to the educational opportunity? May I use the term regular kids. If you're a regular fourth grader in Washington, d C. Public schools, I can't imagine the quality of education you might receive. But nonetheless, it doesn't assist to have classes disrupted with large numbers of other fourth graders that are not educationally appropriate, don't know the

culture, don't know how to behave, and can't speak the language. And the teachers have to more or less take care of student body that she doesn't speak a dialect out of Africa or Central America, and the kid sits there with no hope of learning. What impact does that have on the kids who've been there for three or four years, they're in the third or fourth grade. Here comes ten kids from Southern Asia Afghanistan that have no idea what you're

talking about, don't speak the dialect. So what is it a babysitting service? Well, how does it look? I mean again, it's hard enough to meet all the needs of all students in the classroom because they're often at very different levels. Right, So teachers already dealing with the fact that they've got students who have very different levels of proficiency. That is a massive challenge.

So then when you bring in new challenges. And again, these children didn't do anything wrong, right, and they have a right to be enrolled in the school according to the law. Here, the problem is these schools are not set up and equipped to set them up for success. So what ends up happening is it's almost it's hard for anybody to really get what they

need because their needs are so disparate. And this is you know again, I just feel like the schools are already reeling from the pandemic and trying to recover from that, and this just adds another massive challenge that from a compassionate angle of course, right, the school districts want to do the best they can buy these kids, but the realistic situation or the truth about what's going on is like they don't have what they need to be able to do it.

And of course the leads on because what you're reporting, Erica Sansei of parents defending education is happening every day in every public school, whether in Minnesota or Maine or California, there's something like two million children have come in the

past five years. The official numbers eight million total. And of the eight million, there's about two million children who are legally entitled to a quality public education dispersed all over the country, and the school districts are not set up. So what's happening. Whenever there's an action, there's an opposite and direct reaction to what's going on. About seventeen or eighteen states now have educational vouchers.

We have in Ohio where if you're dissatisfied with your public school, you can take a voucher that sorts between eight and twelve thousand dollars to a private school or to a Catholic school or some other monassory school outside the system.

And parents there have been tens of thousands in the state of Ohio that have left the public school system, leaving behind even the worse situation because if you're a parent in Washington, DC, or Wichita, or Chicago or Cincinnati, and you have a voucher available of putting your kid's hands, the voucher goes with the kid and you can get a quality education outside of the Chicago public schools, which are in total chaos, complete destruction. You're going to leave

and then what do you leave behind? Yeah, I mean the reality is, in my opinion, every single family, regardless of their income, deserves to have options when it comes to where they're going to educate their children. And to your point, you know there's people who are if you're in a failing system and you have an escape hatch, most of the time, you're

going to take it. So what's the solution, Erica? Instead of cursing the darkness, what's the solution of this terrible problem which is producing kids coming out at eighteen years old who have difficulty reading their diploma? They were never failed because it is always socially promoted throughout urban America. You never fail, and you get done, and you basically went through about fourteen years of whatever in the public school system, and you come out and you have no quality

education at all. What happens? How do you solve the problem? Well, the social promotion is not only in urban America, though we've never seen social promotion in suburban America. I think that, honestly, part of it is people have to get brutally honest about what's really going on. I mean, one problem is that nobody wants to tell the truth about what's really going

on. So the first thing is so and part of that is because there is a lot of intimidation around people wanting to speak freely about these topics. Right, So teachers that are really really struggling all with these issues, they're not likely to speak out about this in any sort of public way. The other thing is that is that I mean again, I was a teacher for a lot of years, and I was a member of the NEA and two states, and I'm telling you, like the unions are a massive villain in

this. They never talk about student learning, student outcomes. They don't talk about you know, reading and math proficiency. They are hyper political organizations now, and so for example, that's why we don't even see them being supportive in terms of helping with this immigration, this influx of students, because their ideology is such that they want the borders wide open and they don't really care about the impact that that's having on their own members. No, teachers are

leaving in droves. They can't can't take it anymore. And lastly, if after November the same philosophy remains in charge and we have the next four to twelve years of open borders, whether it's whether it's Biden or Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, wherever it might be, all interchangeable left wing drill bits. If that policy continues the next four to twelve years, what's the state of public education all over the country after twelve more years of this? I mean

have this. I have concerns about the state of it now currently. And so if we do not get our arms around this and begin making, you know, hard choices, but hard choices that are good for students and families and teachers, we're going to be in trouble. Teachers will leave, counselors will leave, Education will become double and triple in price. Citizens don't want to vote additional levies to support the schools that aren't functional. I've got to

build brand new building. Schools have become also now welcome wagons. They've become language centers, They've become nursing centers and medical centers. They've become psychological service centers. They've become feeding stations. All these things in the past were handled within a family or a community, and families and communities don't exist anymore. And I don't see a way out of this until we stop what's in other words, before you start about drain draining the swamp, stop the inflow.

And we can't do that until we stop this happening of literally two million kids have entered America in the past four years, two million just first all over the country. And if that accelerates or stays the same, public education is done. And I don't know what happens our to our great they use to

our magnificent cities. You know, America, for a long time, we had magnificent American cities, majestic American cities, and all of them are being destroyed in one way or another because of crime and lawlessness and lack of faith, lack of family. And it's not lack of funding. It because Washington, DC public school kids get about twenty two thousand dollars a year each from the Congress and they want more money, and they want more money because of

the failure of the board and border policies. But all right, Erica Sanza, go ahead, please finish up. I was just going to say, most of that money never makes it to kids, and it never makes us a classroom. So you know, obviously they're terrible stewards of the money.

And the last thing I would say is that if we're going to consider schools to be social service institutions, right, you know, we're going to provide you with all the services that you need, then we need to stop calling them schools right because schools are not meant to be places that provide every single need for a family. They're meant to be institutions of learning. The goal is higher learning or secondary learning. The goal is to come here and get

the basics and then many at the age of eighteen. I love the idea of getting an electrician, getting a plumb. I love that some go on to institutions of hire indoctrination at the Ivy League, and that's even worse. But I can't imagine public education. I don't care what city or state you're in. If these policies continue, it'll collapse. And the collapse I think this collapsed right now because I can't imagine comparing the senior high school or eighth

grade proficiency rates now to like fifty years ago. It's not even close. That there is none, and they're getting worse, and no one's addressing the real problem, which is out the southern border. It's not money, and it's as teachers' unions dominate and they fire superintendents all the time. Like in Cincinnati, we had a pretty good one named Ironetta Wright, and she had a vote after about a year and a half trying to change things in Cincinnati,

which is a terrible school district. The six unions got together voted a censure, no vote confidence, and the school board fired the superintendent and paid off about three hundred thousand dollars to get her out the door. And she wanted to make significant changes, and the six unions in Cincinnati did not want it to happen, and we're left and it's awful. The unions do not like people who come in to disrupt the status quo. So it is very

common for unions to you know, go after change makers. And what we need are change makers. So that is again why I say again the rank and file members of the unions are not well represented by their leaders, and those organizations are nothing but political organizations. Now, they do not represent their members well at all, and you know, they are a big problem. And that is why you'll see like a place like Florida is really taking off

academically, they're you know, they've they've moved up to the rankings. I think they're now first, at least in some categories, whereas other states, like where I live, Rhode Island, we're a high spending, low performing state. And that is not only because of the power of the union, but is definitely related to that. All right, Erica Sandsey, we got to go. Parents defending education keep working. It's a tough job, but

someone has to do it. And Erica, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Thank you, Erica, thank you, thanks for having me. Well, let's continue with more Bill Cunningham The Grand American Live with You by Billy Cunningham, Eric Sandy, thank you very much. I see on sixty minutes and elsewhere, there's an effort to mainstream drag shows. If you want to dress up in drag and entertain

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Reform Fair. Bill Cunningham with you every single year, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. A few days ago, President joe Biden laid down in the executive order which he claims will to hear the border. I find it unbelievable that for the last three and a half years he said he did not have the power to do what he just did with executive orders. He said for a long time, I need the Congress to do something and doesn't take money. All it takes is to will to shut down the southern border, stay

in Mexico policy to empower the border patrol to do their job. But I wanted to get on an expert on the subject matter from the Federation of American Immigration Reform, which is fair if AI R that is Joey Chester and Joey welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Joey, can you tell the American people the three or four things that the Biden Executive Order which is now in effect, is occurring and why it's not a good idea because it doesn't really

solve the problem. But tell the American people the three or four things the order does do. Yeah, Bill, it's great to be with you. And I just want to say this is a desperate attempt by Joe Biden to try to fool the American people. It's political showmen ship. And this executive order what it does is it causifies his open borders policies. It doesn't do

anything to secure the border. So one of the major issues is that allows twenty five hundred encounters per day, which is nine hundred thousand per year. But that's not it. When you apply the CBP one app which is where you can make an appointment to get into the United States, and if you count the illegal HNV parole program where illegal aliens are flown directly into the United States to a city near you, we hit at least at least one point

eight million illegal alien entries into the United States on a yearly basis. That is acceptable by the Biden administration. That is Biden sending a message to the cartels, to the human smugglers, and the foreign nationals around the world that we are okay with one point eight million of you crossing our borders, and in fact, you know, you can make a phone appointment for it, and you can fly directly into the country if you're from a certain place.

Another issue, the executive order doesn't apply to unaccompanied minors. That means that the human smuggler is going to take advantage of that to get these unaccompanied miners across the border. It's going to allow human smuggling of minor children to thrive. It. It makes me really mad. The executive Order does not apply to any alien who DHS authorizes to enter due to operational considerations at the time of the entry or encounter that warranted the permitting of the non citizen to enter.

So that sounds like a lot of discretion to me, where they can basically say, oh yeah, the conditions allow this guy to enter. So all in all, what this does is, like I said, it codifies catch and release. This is not closing the border. Why twenty five one hundred you weekue aliens to day? Why isn't it zero If you can do it twenty five hundred, make it a zero tolerance policy. Bill Biden is trying to fool the American people, But it's not going to work. I

hope not. But when I read this about unaccompanied minors, so I think the little boys and little girls, some of the teenage years that don't count against the twenty five hundred, and they're coming into this country to perform slave labor or slave sex work. That's why they're coming and they don't count.

Add on top of this, there's about a million a year, which is three thousand a day, which at about ten airplanes, ten to fifteen airplanes that are flown directly from Central America, South America, Asia Africa directly into a major American city. So you can go to an embassy, you're going to apply online and once accepted, which is quite easy to get accepted instead

of going through the hassles. I've taken a flight to Mexico and then walk through the border, and I watched a liberal over the weekend talk about you know what this means is that the human traffickers aren't going to better from this as much because you pay transit fees to come in the control of the human traffickers to come across the southern border. But that's not the answer. The answer is why do we allow into this country a million people a year flown

directly into the cities all over the country. On the top of that, Joey, we have a million who overstay their visas every year. By that, I mean they apply for a visa in some foreign country, they get permission to come here to go on vacation allegedly, or to go to school here. And then a million on top of that number just don't return after the visa time, after the expiration date, they stay here anyway, And

so we have one hundred thousand children missing on the southern border. It was a big deal, by the way, when Trump was in office, not a big deal today. Two and a half thousand a day at on top of that, Miners, it's at least a million a year before anything is triggered, and what's being triggered is impossible. I watched Jay Johnson this morning and one of the talk shows say he was a he was Obama's homeland security He said, if we had a day with one thousand, that was really

a bad day. We're talking twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. One thousand a day is a bad day. Right now, we're having three thousand a day with the Biden program, another three thousand a day from being flown into the country, and another three thousand a day who overstay their visas. Those are the numbers, and so we have about ten to twelve million illegals in the country right now, living, working, many committing crimes in Venezuela. The

gangs are just unbelievable, vicious and cruel. They have no connection. And so Joe Biden wants to sell the American people and the idea that it's the fault of the Republicans. Those damn Republicans won't let me do what I want to do, So by executive order, I'm going to do it. But what he does by executive order doesn't change a damn thing. Correct, It doesn't doesn't change anything. It literally does nothing. It is just him.

You know, he knows the political optic, he can read the poll numbers, and he needs something to try to say, Look, look, I this is a shiny object. Look what I've done. It's all in name only. It literally, like I said, it codifies open border policies. It doesn't rescind any of his executive orders or change any of his policies that

opened our borders. And it's really infuriating when you hear President Biden try to blame Congress for not doing anything because he keeps houting this oh, bipartisan border security bill, which was a fake border security bill that failed once in the Senate, and then Chuck Schumer brought it up a second time and it failed even worse than the first time, and it had no bipartisan support. In fact, it failed by a bipartisan vote. The House passed HR two to

Secure the Border Act last May. It's been over a year. It's collecting dust on Chuck Schumer's desk. If President Biden was serious about border security, he would call up Chuck Schumer and he would say, look, we've got get a handle on this crisis. You need to bring HR two up, and you are going to tell the Democrats and the Senate that we need to pass this bill because we've got a crisis at the border. If Biden was serious, that's what he do. His executive order is basically based on the

failed Senate Border security deal. It's the same open Border's policies in that really terrible piece of legislation. And so yeah, when he says it's border security, it's not. He just needs something, like I said, to point to and say yes, I've done something, but I will say what this is. It is an admission by President Biden that the border has become a crisis and out of control under his watch. And like we've said, he's

had executive authority all this time to do something. Now he's using his executive authority, but once again, it's executive authority to keep the border open, not secure it. And I think it's it's infuriating. I think it's a slap in the face to the American people who are living day in and day

out with the consequences of these open borders policies. You have a provision here in this executive order by Biden that says that Mexico must accept about thirty thousand a month, which is a drop in believe thirty thousand a month is a drop in the bucket. It doesn't solve the issue at all. What solves the issue is shut down the southern border, stay in Mexico, stop the flights into the country, revoke the visas, and look for individuals that are

overstaying their welcome. Now, that would change things, but that's not going to happen. Can you tell them, Mayor? Of course, we know the answers basically, but tell them may if you live in northern Kentucky, if you live in Iowa or Minnesota somewhere, how does illegal immigration affect you, Because you think this is a New York problem, a California problem. Every city, every state is now a border city of border state. Explain

what's happening. Well, we know that illegal aliens aren't just going to the big cities. So I'm from originally I live in DC now, but i'merginally from a small town in Montana. And even in this small town in Montana, there was outrage because illegal aliens showed up on an airplane and showed up at the sheriff's office because they said, we've been flown into rural Montana.

We don't know what to do, we don't know where to go. And so what inevitably happens is, you know, either some local NGO or some national NGO put them up in a shelter, might be a government fund a shelter, depending on where you are, and the taxpayers have to bear that

burden. But if you're in a small town somewhere and illegal aliens are coming, if they have kids, their kids are going to be in your school, you may have to hire a teacher who can either teach in Spanish or whatever language, or a translator so that those kids can be in school. So that's a burden. You know, schools run on tight budgets already, there's more kids in the classroom, police fire in all of that's burden when

there's more people. If illegal aliens are committing crimes, that harms the local community. Again, it harms citizens, but then the police have to respond, and so it's burdened on the police, it's burdened on the courts. And then you have if the illegal alien goes to the hospital they get hurt, well, the hospital's going to pay for it. We allow people to show up at the er and you're going to get taken care of because that's that's what we do. But chances that they're going to pay their bill is

small. So that's an absorption by the taxpayers once again. So not only are Americans all across the country living with the things that they can see, it's the things that they can also feel, and that's in their their pocketbook. You have our latest cost study shows one hundred and fifty point seven billion dollars that you, legal immigration costs the United States every single year. That is a crazy amount of money. And illegal aliens pay a drop in the

bucket towards the cost that they cost American taxpayers. So you're either living with it by the literal physical effects of illegal immigration, or you're paying for it. You know, we see stories about illegal aliens allegedly shooting cops. We

have the death of Lincoln Riley, and it goes on. I had On dan Stein a couple months ago, president of your organization is a good man, and that one hundred and fifty billion does not take into account the ancillary expenses such as the broken windows, has stolen vehicles, the drug sales, the human trafficking of girls and boys for profit. None of that can be monetized in a sense to make part of the one hundred and fifty billion,

but every community. I had on the superintendent of Schools of Cincinnati about eight months ago. By the way, she's been fired because the six labor unions didn't want her in Cincinnati. And they have thousands of illegal children that show up in the school system who are like nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old with no education foundation at all, and isn't just Spanish. There's about one hundred different languages and dialects, and the law says each must be

taught in their native language. I see a number out of the New York Post that there's eighty thousand school children in New York City public schools. There's over a million in the school system that now have special needs because they're twelve

years old. They can't read, can't write, and so the school district is supposed to hire interpreters to sit there with the language of the dialect being used by that student to help that kid learn, which takes away complete educational opportunities of the other kids in school because they're sitting in a classroom go over it again and again in time and a time. They're not part of the

culture and they're not part of the educational foundation. Even if you're in a terrible school district, by the time in the first, second or third grade, you might be able to read and write. But these kids are just dropped in the middle parachute into school districts. They have no chance of graduating. Of course, you can't flunk anybody anymore. And in your number of one hundred and fifty some billion doesn't take into account the horror of being thrown

into sexual slavery as a boy or a girl. And wouldn't it be great if the media did a long term study of what happens on the Southern border with the sex trafficking of boys and girls. Wouldn't that be wonderful? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they talked about the crimes being committed by the illegal immigrants, overwhelmingly poorly educated young males who are the criminal groups in America. And

then you're also throw on top of that the Chinese military age men. There's about fifty thousand Chinese military ah men seeking across the Southern border that are working in the pot farms, the pot factories, all illegal to take over the control of marijuana in order to give Chinese government billions of dollars. I'm looking at this total collapse, and Joe Biden says he's helped to solve the problem. I would say this, Joey Chester, are you kidding me? I

almost wish he was joking, but he's not. He thinks he's done something. He has it. There's no way and that's why I say it's a complete flap in the face, and there's no way he read the order. I mean, he did not rescind the hundreds of other orders that he's issued.

Someone sticks something in front of him, he can't read it, He signs it, changes his adult diaper, and then goes to a news conference as allows a job in the media, gives him a complete free pass, and it goes on and on. You point out that today's executive orders, this was a few days ago, does not repeal hundreds of other executive orders, policy memoranda, or final rules issued in the last three and a half

years that have weakened the nation's immigration enforcement capabilities. That has nothing to do and the media that mainstream media refuses to cover it. I'll give you one last factoy, Joey Chester, and that is this that if an American gets most of not all, their news from ABC, CBS and NBC, the morning shows, the view, late night comics, and the nightly news, supporting Joe Biden is fifty five to thirty five over Donald Trump because none of

these issues are aired out by anyone in the mainstream media. For those of us that look outside, it's a different story. I agree, and I do think that we may be starting to see a shift happen in places like New York, in Chicago, Boston, these sanctuary cities that are now having to live with the consequences of being sanctuary cities. You know, the average person in these places are having to live with the consequences, and their mindset

may be shifting. I wrote a story not long ago about a group of soccer players in New York City. It was a couple of high school teams, and they showed up at the local local soccer field to play a game they have been scheduled for. They'd reserved the fields, and they get there and there's a group of illegal aliens on the field and they refuse to leave. Even after the police were called, they refused to leave. The police did nothing to help. They basically said, we can't we can't help with

this situation. And the high schoolers have to cancel the soccer and they're afraid to go back to this field now and play because of the consequences if they maybe confront these illegal aliens. So I think you are starting to see that. Everyday people are encountering situations like that and they're saying, wait a second,

this isn't right. I thought the American people were supposed to come first, and that we were supposed to decide our immigration laws and who gets to come here and why and when, and so I hope that people are starting to wake up in some of these places. Well, wait about thirty seconds remaining. If come November the fifth and sixth Biden is still in charge,

Kamala Harris will take over within six months. They'll pull the twenty fifth Amendment him in a heartbeat, and then these policies will be cemented into place for years and years to come, and the character and the pedigree of this country will be completely destroyed. But Joey Chester of a Fair Federation for American Immigration Reform, Joey thanks again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Joey, Bill, Thank you, God bless America. Let's continue with

more Bill Cunningham, The Grand American Live with you every Sunday night. Billy Cunningham, thanks for listening tonight. And as I began talking about Father's Day a week from now, I wanted to give you my experiences with it to

maybe in the future sometime this week. If you're a strange from your dad, whether a daughter or a son, and You've been a strange for a long period of time, and you have a week to get this together by next Sunday night, and I would hope that you would try during the living years to reach back and to say, Dad, no matter what the relationship has been between you and I in the past, I want to forge a

new one right now. So I would urge you not to do what I did, and that is blocked my own dad from meeting with me at the moments of his death because of what he did to me and what he did to the family, Because looking back in time, I wish I had that

precious time with him. So in the next week, if you're a strange from your dad, now's the time, and now's the hour on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, getting ready for Father's Day next Sunday, to make that cannet, make one more effort to see if you two can connect during the living years. Don't do what I did. Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night,

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