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Guy, Billy Cunningham, the great American. What a consequential few days it's been, and I think the next few days might even be better. I call them the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Good things happening in this country. Number one, of course, the Olympic are coming here next year in Los Angeles. We have the World Cup coming next year or shall I say this year, all over the country. And then we have an American pope, which is almost impossible.
Then we have Donald Trump in charge of the presidency instead of Kamala Harris. You take the Pope and Trump and the World Cup and the Olympics, make America great again. There it is for all who have eyes to see and ears to hear. It's happening. And I know at this point the Left is trying to hijack the papacy of Leo the fourteenth. There's Pete Rose's number again, fourteen, Leo the fourteenth, and eye for one will have none of it. If you want to see something spectacular, I
saw it on X Shall I say Twitter? This last couple of days, you know, there's some dispute. The Cubs wanted to claim the new Pope their own by putting a little billboard up saying a fan of the Chicago Cubs. And then someone took the time to go back to the twenty oh five World Series between the White Sox and at that point in the National League, the Houston Astronomicals.
They were in the National League twenty years ago, and they had one of those shots as a Fox or the rest of them are apt to do in between pitches, and they simply want to get a fan reaction at
this case at Kimiski Park. And if you google Leo the fourteenth World Series, Kmisky Park, there is the Pope in twenty oh five, some twenty years ago in the stands at Komisky Park with his brother and his nephew cheering on the Chicago White Sox, who, by the way, in twenty oh five they did win the World Series because the future pope was in the house. Incredible, a future pope, Robert Francis Prevost, who was born in nineteen fifty five, is now the Pope, and everyone said he fits.
He check marks every requirement of the papacy, including age sixty nine years old. Believe it or not, that's somewhat young for a pope. For the first time in my life, a pope is younger than me. Never had that happen before. Maybe we're getting younger pope, so I'm getting older one of the other. And so we had that happening nineteen fifty five. He spent most of his young adult life in and around Chicago or Philadelphia. He's a great fan
by the way of the Philadelphia Eagles. And who won the Super Bowl in February, That'd be the Philadelphia Eagles. He attends a White Sox game. Who wins the World Series in twenty oh five, that'd be the Chicago White Sox, and good lord, do they need help now. He goes from high school, where he was a mathematic genius on the Villanova the home of the Wildcats. They may never lose another game by the way the Wildcats. Villanova's won
what three national titles Villanova. Everywhere this guy goes, great things occur and received a master in theology eighty four when he was not quite thirty years old, it received a doctorate in canon law, and then from that point on he wanted to be a missionary. He saw himself as helping the poorest among the poor. And at that point, when he was twenty nine thirty years old, guess what a few people that's seen him as a future pope.
Believe it or not. There's this school teacher when he was six years old that looked at Bob and said, that boy right there is going to be a pope six years old. Nonetheless, so he spends most of the next fifteen to sixteen years in and around Peru as a bishop among the poorest of the poor. He then goes up the ladder of be classical of success in Rome. Then in twenty twenty three, Francis elevates him to be
a cardinal. And they've been friends for a long time, one from Argentina, one from Peru, and one couldnot imagine a more unlikely fate then to have this white Sox fan cheering on the White Sox and twenty oh five. Google it, it's there. I'm watching it. Unbelievable. It's one of those three or four second cuts. They wanted a happy white Sox fan, and they happened to Fox Sports. Happens to put the camera on Robert Francis Prevost, also
known as Leo the Fourteenth. Unbelievable. Could not be happier. And we'll see what happens the next twenty to thirty years. He's going to be in the papacy for a long long time. And right now the left is trying to claim him as their own by talking about a tweet that someone in his name put out a few months back against JD. Vance, who, by the ways of practicing Roman Catholic, and I mean a real practicing Roman Catholic
who attends my church. He converted to my church in Madeira St. Saint Gertrude's, but not the so called Joe Biden, a devout Roman Catholic, not exactly. And he had one quote to JD that said, quote, JD Vance is wrong. Jesus does not ask us to rank our love for others. And it's absurd to take that comment and make it a woke pope, which is even some like Lord Luma
Lumer on the right ones to do Orthodox Catholics. So he's going to be happy to learn that this pope is strongly pro life, and he's pro family, and he spent a good chunk of his life in a capitalistic society. He recognizes that everyone's lifted as the tide rises, and he has an American orientation no pope has ever had. In fact, we've had a pope to speak English since Justinian about a thousand years ago. And that's the it'll be. It'll be incredible when he comes back to America. At
some point. He was invited there by the President of Villanova yesterday when they exchanged emails, invited him to be the graduation speaker. He said he's not sure he can do that. I also would note that on Friday, Uh, he's one of three boys. He's the youngest of the three. One of his brothers was conducting an interview on on w g N TV and Uh, he was on a tablet and as he's conducting the interview, the phone, the phone number indicates brother Bob is calling. That that Bob
that on on Friday was the Pope. So so his older brother. So I better take this call and he answers the call and it was the Pope. And the first thing he said, uh to his brother Bob, was hey, Bobby, Uh, you're on the air right now. And the Pope said what he said, Yeah, I'm conducting an interview right now. He said, I'll call you later. I assume the call was made later. And uh, unbelievable that number one and
the same timeframe. The Olympics are here, the World Cup is here, the Pope is from here, and Donald Trump's in the house. I guess tomorrow flying to the Middle East. And one thing this Pope did say, quote the promotion of gender ideology is confusing because it seeks great genders that do not exist. That's the Pope in his own words. So I think we have a pope who is not liberal, not conservative, but he's religious. And also Leo the fourteenth
seems to be a Republican. You said, what, well, you voted absentee, took a registered Republican ballot out of Illinois in twenty twelve, which was during the Obama years. Took another Republican a sample ballot in the primary in twenty fourteen, registered a Republican. The Pope registered also in twenty sixteen as a Republican, and he voted by absentee in twenty twenty four and if anything, he appears to be more
of a Bush Republican than a Trump Republican. But let's face it, I don't think too many of the popes are concerned about politics whatsoever. If some progressives wanted France's Part two, they're going to be disappointed, don't be fooled. And it's because the left demand's power, the left demand's influence, the left demand's money, and their masters are deceiving people. It looks like practicing Roman Catholics have a pope in
Little of the fourteenth that we can rally around. But whether you have a good pope or a bad pope, and let's face it, it's up to you whether a pope is spectacular like John Paul the Second or not so spectacular. Your eternal salvation is in your hands, not in someone else's. He said, a lot of problems going on,
not the least of which is financial. The Wall Street Journal has an article about eight months ago in which it pointed out what dire financial condition the Vatican is in, and I read the article thinking, oh my gosh Leo the fourteenth has serious problems. Headline is next Pope faces financial mess. France has struggled with the cleanup and was unsuccessful.
And this article details the terrible financial struggles of the Catholic Church, with the church's annual budget tripling in Pope Francis's twelve year reign, spent three hundred percent more money in those twelve years, and the pension fund in the Vatican is two billion euros unfunded. And there have been unusual financial practices in the Vatican, including seemingly the theft of a half million dollars out of a Vatican bank account stored and one of those involved stored the cash
in a shopping bag. According to this article, the bank account to another concealed the funds from a senior Vatican auditing official, Cardinal George pell. Money laundering using the Vatican Bank has become ramped to the point where europe financial watchdogs are going to blacklist the Vatican Bank, and so France has brought in an outside consultant, Deloitte. I used
to be Tooche. I'm not sure they're Tooche anymore. They're Deloitte, and they investigated that millions of dollars in Shenanigan's Half Millionaire Half Millionaire. Someone broke into the consultant's office, Deloitte's office and unscrewed the base of his computer, destroying a lot of public records. Archbishops have been convicted of financial fraud under Pope Francis, and has been convicted of fraud embezzlement. He's appealing it. And that guy is still a cardinal,
but he couldn't vote. He was over the age of eighty. And so this pope is serious problems, but also with serious problems go serious opportunities. I'm proud tonight as I've ever been to be a practicing Roman Catholic and to have one of our own. In a sense, I'm not sure he's going to get along completely with Donald Trump, but it not required. Trump is of this world, and Leo the fourteenth prepares us for the next. We'll see
what happens down the road now. Secondly, and we have three lines available as I speak, I'll take many calls tonight at eight six six six four seven seven three
three seven. Secondly, Donald Trump posted about six pm tonight to be exact at six twenty two pm Eastern time, tonight, a bombshell announcement said, for many years, the world has wondered why prescriptive drugs and pharmaceuticals in America are so much higher in price they were in other nations, sometimes five to ten times greater here than in every other
nation on the face of the earth. And he's going to order therefore, I'm pleased to announce the tomorrow morning, which is nine am tomorrow morning, in the White House, I'll be signing one of the most consequential executive orders in our country's history. I will demand that prescription drug and pharmaceutical prices be reduced by anywhere between thirty to eighty percent, and they will rise throughout the world in
order to equalize the money, bring fairness to America. And this will save American citizens and taxpayers trillions of dollars every year away we go. I hope this works. I hope this will happen in a sense. But here's another factor. The reason the prices here are so high is because we bear the expense of research and development of new drugs, and the other world takes advantage of us. Once the drugs have been approved by the FDA as being safe and effective, then the rest of the world picks them
up at pennies on the dollar. We pay everything now. I had on a pharmaceutical expert a couple of years ago from Lily, a great pharmaceutical company. It takes at least five hundred million dollars of research and development for each drug they try, five hundred million, and then one of every six or seven actually work, they're safe and effective. So five hundred million plus five hundred million plus five
hundred million at them up. So the one drug that is safe and effective after R and D is done has to bear on its shoulders literally billions of dollars of research and development that the pharmaceutical companies and others put into the hopper to get to the point of having an effective drug. No other country bears the price
they poach off us and the American consumer. Then, and the pharmaceutical companies to stay in business have got to collect, recollect and put in their pricing structure all the cost of all the research and development, all the employees, all the buildings, all the benefits, and mainly its research and
development costs. That's got to go into one drug that works and has to bear the price of all the drugs, the billions of dollars spent of drugs that were not safe or not effective, as the American consumer pays that price, is that fair? Absolutely not. The Trumpster in about eleven hours is going to say the price of these drugs will equalize and rise throughout the world. Our country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens healthcare costs will
be reduced by numbers no one ever thought of. Now, what's going to be the first thing that happens about nine o two am tomorrow morning Eastern time. Lawsuits. The pharmaceutical companies will file lawsuits, others saying a president cannot fix prices. And I get that point, but why we bear the expense, all the expense and the rest of the world doesn't is despicable and it's wrong. Just one little thing I hope the Trumpster can do tomorrow. Let the lawsuits commence in a way we go. Let's take
short break and set up tonight's BAK show. I want to get your feelings first of all, about the election, the selection of Leo the fourteenth, a White Sox fan and a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Wherever he goes, good things happen to teams around him. It's unbelievable. I wish in a sense he could become a fan of the Cincinnati Reds. Wouldn't that be great? But nonetheless, when he attend a White Sox game to win the World Series, when he goes to Eagles games at Villanova, eventually they win a
few Super Bowls. Now he's pope and as human as he can be, and I could not be more pleased. Want to get your reaction to this, but also to what the President is going to do tomorrow. Also, what's happening now in the Middle East. What's happening with a Moss allegedly an American hostage the last American hostage, guy named Dan Alexander's going to be released sometime soon, maybe tonight or tomorrow. A Moss, a bunch of killers allegedly
going to release nineteen year old Eaton Alexander. He's been locked up five hundred and eighty one days, tortured repeatedly, supposedly going to be released soon as a gesture of good will. They're an evil death cult, and the only way to deal with that has arranged the meeting between them and those seventy two virgins. Let's continue with more eight six six six four seven, seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every Sunday night.
I Bellie cunning Him, the Great American. Let's continue full lines of course eight six six six four seven seven three three seven. Big things happening, A lot of work to be done, today's lot. I got up this morning, went to Massa yesterday at four point thirty, had just joy, just happiness.
The guy.
We have the right pope at the right time. He gave an interview about two or three years ago in which he said, look, God knows who the next pope is. It is our job to hear his call. We don't pick the pope. It is revealed to us and then we act accordingly. And each time, at least in my lifetime, we've had the right pope at the right time. He said, which John Paul the second was needed from Poland, and after that Benediction was needed from Germany. Then he said,
after that Francis was needed from Argentina. And at that point he wasn't the pope. In fact that I'm not sure even was a cardinal at that point. He was just elevated. About a year and a half ago by Francis to that particular post sixty nine years old. He's likely has a twenty year run in this when he comes to America. I've been told that he's going to have to wait because he speaks English, he speaks Spanish, he speaks speaks Portuguese, he speaks French, and he speaks Italian,
and he can read Latin and Chinese. So as a consequence, he checks every box that you like a pope to be able to communicate with. He's the first English speaking pope. And over a thousand years we had a guy named Justinian a thousand years ago from England. I assume he spoke English. Probably we wouldn't understand it today, but he
spoke English. So this is spectacular. It's unbelievable. Well, let's continue with more and later on with talk about a guest or two we have coming up in including the Great Yuri Kaufman about his analysis of the President's trip on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to the Middle East, and will there be big pow wow involving Israel and amass and or Iran. We will see ten twenty nine go cunning into Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.
To the world.
Who uses American prescriptive drugs and diagnostic tools and techniques bear the cost of their development?
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Yes, how do we make that system happen? Number one? Could it cause the literal bankruptcy of America's drug and pharmaceutical companies? I don't know yet. He announced this at six fifteen pm to night at nine o'clock in the morning, is going to order that the cost of these drugs go down by many, many times, by eighty ninety percent.
And the cost structure of whether it's Wyeth or lily whatever is based upon returning your investment, and that the one successful drug's got to bear the price the cost of all the failures. That costs hundreds of millions of dollars per failed drug. I'd take two or three drugs, would like to pay a lot less. Absolutely so. I think those who use them in Europe and South America and which abanned Korea, Yes, they should pay their fair share. Now, how do you make them do it? Only the Trumps
that can make this happen. Let's continue now, we'll take some calls, talk about what's coming up later, including I've had a lot of requests for this guest. I hit them on about two or three years ago. Mark Meckler, which is the State con the State Convention guy Article five that says in the constitution that if two thirds of the state's elect to have a brand new constitutional convention, if two thirds of the state call for one, it's gonna happen. So I want to get to Mark Meckler's
why it's required. I know it's gaining steam. Then also later on we have doctor MASSELLI do no harm. I may pick up with him the idea of what do we do with pharmaceutical expenses that are so much less now? If Trump is successful, of course, the first thing is going to happen is the pharmaceutical companies will be in front of a Obama federal judge that issues an injunction. Here we go. So, I don't know, can the president fix the price of drugs? I'm talking about pharmaceutical drugs
developed by private businesses. What they cost, structure, I don't know. I know everyone should bear the costs of these miracle drugs, and right now only we're bearing the cost 's continue with more. Once again, the number of call is eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, And let's go to Bill and Quincy, Massachusetts. And Bill in Massachusetts. How you doing, Yeah, go ahead, you're very pig thank you tell you.
Yeah, we should have Elon go to the Vatican, goes What do.
You think, Well, you know, certainly he's had measure impacts here in the country. To watch the interview he and his team, if done with Hannity and with Jesse Waters, is fabulous to look at these guys donating their time without any taxpayer expense, just save hundreds of billions of dollars. Even sixty minutes Tonight picked up on it that there's criminal gangs in China and Iran and in North Korea that built the taxpayer out of billions of dollars of
every year. And yes, we need something in Vatican City is no different than any other organization. I read somewhere that's seventy percent of us given an opportunity wi steal money, we would count me in the category that would not steal money. But I would hope the religious and the Vatican have a different calling. But it looks like at leaks like a sieve, and I hope Leo can get control of it.
Yes, and that pull tracks is a lot for it.
He spent so much money, man and sorrows, and those people are sat in the sea up government.
GEO keeps track of government spending. And in March of last year, in April of last year, in each month we borrowed as taxpayers about about two hundred billion dollars a month. Uh, well, we borrow about two trillion dollars. March and April was bad, and the last March in April, thank God of Joe Biden. And this March, instead of two hundred billion being borrowed, the number was thirty seven billion. And they're trying to figure out why, how come the
government is running more lean? How come this is the cost and they don't know if it's going to remain because you might recall the Trumpster had all these buyout packages, and so I don't know. In April was the same low number. Of course, we borrow every year about two
trillion dollars. And so far in the first what h February, March, in April, the first three full months of the Trump administration, there might have been one hundred billion dollars barred total for all three months instead of six hundred billion now how long are that we can continue? I don't know. There's more news tonight as I sit here that AMASA has announced again than eaton Alexander, the nineteen year old American citizen as a gesture of goodwill, having been tortured
for five hundred and eighty one days. It's going to be released imminently. So right now in the Middle East, it's approximately five thirty nine am, So maybe by the time I get off there, he'll be released. We'll see what happens. Let's continue now with Patrick in North Carolina, the home of the tar Heels, that a lot of.
People are not understanding that there are like usaid. I've got a letter from Eric Smith, Senator in Missouri, and it's signed by five other senators including Ted Cruz, Josh Howley, Marshall Blackburn, and two others, and it was an attack. It was sent to the president of the American Bar Association, and it was a scathing, long letter with all the receipts because it was found out that, you know, people
wonder why why the judicial is so corrupt? Why is the theme that everything gets past happens to help attorneys and protect judges and so forth? Well, it turns out USAID has been funding the American Bar Association to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, including Title four D, which is I think four point six billion dollars of Title four D was going back to state and a lot of that money found its way into the pensions of disre court judges who were creating a massive child
support system, destroying American families and destroying children's lives. And it's just not a story that's being told enough, and billions, billions of dollars of being spent to protect basically, it's another it's just a larger cash for kids, kids for cash debacle that was going on in Pennsylvania.
Patrick accurate. It was a government funded of the Democratic
liberal elites to keep them in power. And whether it's the ABA or the AM, I have an expert coming up later tonight, Doctor Kurt Masselli talks about what the AM does when it comes to discrimination, when it comes to DEI and the ABA has been funded largely by small contributions of weed lawyers, but largely through USAID and mechanisms such as the two billion dollars given to Stacy Abrams and Georgia to assist homes getting insulation and refrigerators,
and she simply spends the money on cars, travel, five Star travel, whatever it is. And it's a funding mechanism the taxpayers have done to elect Democrats and that's been broken. And I look forward. I would hope Patrick that the media and maybe Dan Bongino and others in the FBI would indict these individuals for wirefraud, massive lawlessness, and if the ABA is brought down as an attorney, that's okay
with me. They're a left wing radical organization. And I would point out the last two weeks, Justices Jackson and Soda Mayor have spoken before bar groups encouraging them to be more proactive ensuing the Trump administration. Is that the role of a Supreme Court justice to be in front of lawyer groups encouraging lawsuits that they're going to rule on.
No, I don't get that. You know what's interesting because in the county in North Carolina that I'm in when I went and pulled the lever for Donald Trump in the last election, there were I've got a particular case on and there were five of the judges, five of the liberal Democrat judges that have been involved in my case. It's a horrifically corrupt case. They were all on the ballot of all of the district court judges that I could potentially elect. All of them were a part of
this except for one. There were zero, get this, there were zero people running against these liberal Democrats. There wasn't even a lever to pull. Nobody listed other than liberal Democrats getting put back in power.
Patrick. The ABA is rife with left wing radical politics, and the funding mechanisms has been the taxpayer. It's not the dues, and it's the taxpayer funding the American bar and the American Medical Association. And as I said before, if we go back the other direction in four years and I don't know who's governor Pritzer is going to be the president or Gavin Newsom, we can't go ying and yang back because all that money is going to flow back into these liberal groups. To keep the Democrats
in power. We need eight to twelve years. We need jd. Vance, Marco Rubio, somebody after the Trump start to carry this forward. It can't go back the other direction. Otherwise we go back and forth and they're going to double their money to the ABA and double their money to interest groups, to have kickbacks to the Democratic Party, and it's illegal. And I hope FBI director. I hope Dan Bongino, I hope Pam Bondy, I kind of hope. I hope they pursue these things. I have hope. All I have right now,
all I have Patrick now is hope. That's all I have is hope.
Yeah, I barely have that. It's about judicial accountability, and unfortunately there is none. Right we know there's no judicial accountability. So right now it's just a rogue. It's a rogue part of our government. And I don't know how it gets pulled on her control apart from exposure. Exposure, But that's part of the reason I'm calling in. It's like the exposure of what is going on, even at local levels.
People don't know that. I mean, it's right now, over half, over half of America's children we're living in a country what three hundred and thirty million were Over half of our children do not live with their biological father. And Philislaffley, you know, the great Phillis Slaffley, one of our best female politicians we've ever had. Back in the eighties or nineties, she said, if title four D and all this stuff goes through. She she goes, we will create a fatherless America.
And she was spot on. And now her I think the person that runs her organization is a Trump, a top Trump policymaker. So we've got a little bit of hope in that, and that there's some people at there, at the very top of the food chain that knows just how bad it is.
Patrick. I've asked teachers this, if you're in the public school system, how often do you have a conference, a parent teacher conference in which no parents show up or if father shows up? Extremely rare? And I said to this twenty eight year teachers in a union, teachers union, I said, well, what are the odds of a first grader being living in the home of that person's male or female mother and father. The mother and father were
married when they had the child. The mother and father have been together the entire eighteen years of grade school and middle school and high school. They've never had one. It doesn't happen anymore that we don't have intact families, and families are the foundation of democracy, passing on the requirements and skills, especially with boys boys without fathers. In fact, you go to prisons. Great majority there have no family structure,
no fathers. Great majority have worthless high school certificates that mean nothing. The great majority live in the world that you and I would not even recognize. Now, how do you change that? It took us about forty years to get here, It will take us forty years to get out.
And I don't know how how we do it. If we elect Democrats up and down the ladder, and if the ABA continually is encouraging by Supreme Court Justices Jackson and Soda Mayor who decide cases to keep suing to stop the implementation of these policies, these eos by Donald Trump would go back the other direction with Gavin Nissim or Pritzer or god forbid, Kamala Harris or Tim Waltz as the president in twenty twenty eight. We're done because
I said in twenty four we can't. We can't live like this, can't do it.
There's two things that I think that can be done. That it's grassroots, but it's you know, this government is you know, we the people, right, and so this government by the people for the people. If if there was legislation number one, if there was legislation produced that defined domestic child trafficking, right, which is with these courts and and cps and and all of these you know, child protective agencies, they are awful, right, the vast majority of them.
But if there was a domestic child trafficking legal definition, that would allow people to actually hold some of these people accountable. Because now there's this legal definition, and while they're and here's the thing, domestic child trafficking, why does the larger global trafficking go so unnoticed? People just kind of like, Okay, yeah, it's kind of going on or something.
If you don't care about the child they got trafficked in our court system that was across the street from you, you're not going to care about some kid and Honduras that you're never going to meet, right, So they're tied together, the money is tied together, the whole the whole issue of just demoralizing and devaluing our children, which is the it's the vast it's it's the greatest national treasure we have.
But but when that's taken away, when that when that foundational truth is taken away of how important the children are, then you'll just watch them get away with their what they're getting away with. And the second piece of legislation that I'm pushing for would be a piece of legislation for the alienated abused children that when they become of a certain age, they've got a legal pathway of both lawsuits and criminal charges against the attorneys, against the judges,
against court resources, and even the alienating parent. And that kind of firepower, because there's kids growing up everywhere in America today that they want their parents. And we've got fourteen fifteen thousand peer reviewed studies that prove that kids with two parents just do better. Eighty percent of incarcerations involve a single mom, household eighty percent, eighty percent.
We can't continue, Wait, you can't keep doing the same thing anticipating a different result. And now we've got to run. Great call, great take Patrick, thank you. Let's continue with more and if a line becomes available. Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven Bill Cunningham with you Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American, Great Night, Great Night in America, the Olympics, the World Cup, coming Donald Trump in office, going to the Middle East.
Piece is about to break out everywhere, including I guess there's a face to face meeting between the leaders of Ukraine and Russia Zelenski and Putin on Thursday that Trump is headquartering. That looks like India Pakistan ha quit fighting because of Donald Trump. And maybe the American ostg and Alexander will be released sometime tonight or tomorrow plus tomorrow
morning at nine am. The President is going to demand that the pharmaceutical companies grossly lower the cost of their pharmaceuticals and require the rest of the world to help help us pay for him. Then you're going to get the new Cutter. Supposedly is going to give Donald Trump a brand new air Force one is seven forty seven eight hundred that's going to be used in service to the presidency. And we have an American pope, which is unbelievable, unlikely.
Google Chicago White Sox twenty oh five Pope Leo if Fox Sports had a shot of him in the stands cheering on the White Sox in twenty oh five when he was simply a priest working in Peru, And here he is in a White Sox cheering on the White Sox that beat the Houston Astronomicals at that point Houston was in the National League, and he's also a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles, and they won the Super Bowl, and Villanova's won a few national titles. We have a
pope from the Big East. For God's sakes. Oh no, I think make America great again. Think it's happening right now. Would you agree with me? It's happening right now. But the media wants to find the two things that might be questionable and the thousand things that are right, just the opposite one a Democrats. It's in office. They talk about the two things that are that are right and the thousand things that are wrong. They ignore those things.
Donald Trump should should have approval rating right now around seventy five percent, especially if he pulls off peace in India, Pakistan, the Middle East, Ukraine? Are you kidding me? So let's continue with more. Continue to take your calls, calls from California, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan,
and Idaho. Later on tonight or so, we have doctor Kurt Masseli will be here from Do No Harm or what the AMA is doing the doctors in the educational process, and also later on as the Great Yuri Kaufman about what's going to happen this week in the Middle East, and whether Hamas really wants peace and Iran really wants peace. I don't think so. But we'll see Phil cunning and the Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.
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You know, my last guest talked about the ABA. I would also reference the AMA and what they've done. In about thirty minutes or so, Doctor Kurt Marcelli's going to be here about the UH Do No Harm dot Org, his website that talks about what it takes to get into medical school today. I know the same thing's true about law school. You have to harbor certain political beliefs. You have to sing the company song and play the company too, and otherwise you can't get in. If you
get in, you won't get graage. There's certain political things you have to believe in. And the indoctrination happening is I speak by the Aba them is truly unbelievable and it's not well covered, but we're going to cover it tonight. Also later on is the course a Uri Kaufman, an expert on the Middle East, about what's going to happen this week with hamas it appears they're going to release the last American hostage. But of course I believe it
when I see it. Let's continue in your calls. We have Mark and Monroe Michigan, and then Bethany and Detroit and so many others and Mark and Monroe, Wisconsin. I'm sorry, Mark, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Mark, how are you?
I'm fine. How are you doing tonight?
Great night to be an American? Give me a full report.
Okay, here we go. I think, first of all, it's interesting to note that not only Pope Leo was a white Sox fan, but so was h Rock Hussein Obama.
Great point. I'll give the popa pass. I won't give up Obama pass on anything. But the guy was born on the South side of Chicago, and so if you're on the south side of Chicago. You know, you're a white Sox fan the north side the Cubs. But he's also a Philadelphia Eagles fan and they win the Super Bowl. What can I say?
Illanosa quite an interesting scenario. But my main point is is I getting over to Dean Bongino.
I love that guy.
I think he is so much dirt on the whole J six situation and including Kamala Harris in that whole uh Parkside pipe bomb scenario. I'm just I'm just waiting for them to finally expose that thing because I think it's so detrimental into what's coming down the pike. Because if they don't, if they don't expose it, somebody like Ed Martin I think has already lost a major position
because it didn't come to the forefront. So my concern is if they don't Again, I know there's a lot of work behind it, but there may be even more people like you know, Ed Martin that will be you know, short changed if all this stuff doesn't come to the forefront.
Mark the other thing, Leticia James is a crook changed the Attorney General of the State of New York. What she's done with mortgage fraud is unbelievab well, she wants to make it a racial issue when instead it's a behavioral issue. And unfortunately for her, I think there's those in the Apartment of Justice that will believe in the old saying no one's above the law, including Letitia James, who would be tried not in New York City but rather in northern New York, which is a Republican area.
So politics shouldn't play a part. And it's a paperwork case. This is what you signed, this is what you attested to under oath, and this is the lie that you told. And you can't play the race card. Is that your signature? How many dollars did you rip off the taxpayer? And you lied under oath when you said you were resident in Virginia. And whether or not you're guilty or not guilty is a document's case and not testimony. And look at the hell she put Donald Trump through. I think
it's one of the reasons he's got elected. Most of the American people figured it out what the Democrats were doing to their opposition, and they couldn't take it anymore. So it boomeranged on her. But I look forward to Stacy Abrams. I look forward to Letitia James. I look forward to Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade. I look forward to maybe Smith a special prosecute. I look forward to all of it coming out. And I trust Dan Bonngino.
If a year from now we know nothing about Jeffrey Epstein, a year from now, we know nothing about the indictment of Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade and nothing happens with THETISA James, I'd be profoundly disappointed, wouldn't you be?
Absolutely And again, all those people you just mentioned, not to mention the one ma Sean he was he was touching Bundle and all that, and uh, you know Jack Jack Smith, I mean, all these guys are that criminal. And I really hope that they, uh you know, drop the hammer on these guys, because again, our whole future is uh, you know, waiting for that kind of a swing and uh what's coming down the pike. I mean, you know, if if we can do that, it would make all the difference in the world.
Remember the Democrats said, no one's above the law. I guess unless you're a congressman and you want to invade an ice center in Newark, New Jersey, which is a hell hole. Newark, New Jersey, has been run by Democrats for decades. Look at the status of that country, that city. It's unbelievable. And they want to distract you from their failure of policy and somehow indicate that they don't have access to an ice center. All they got to do is request permission, it will be granted. You got the
mayor of Newark. They guy name is Barama something like that. He's a crook and what he wants to do is become the next governor of New Jersey, which is again completely unbelievable that would happen. And I just hope these good were early on a little more than one hundred days, one hundred and twenty days. And let's see what happens by this time. By next year, we should have numerous
indictments and felons. After all, no one's above the law, right mark, No one's above the law, including Democrats.
Well how about Chuck Schumer. That guy is always coming to the forefront belly ache about justice. And this guy can get scott free, you know, and you know, accusing Supreme Court judges and gets out scott free from all that.
Well, how about Nancy Pelosi who out invested. Warren Buffett just step down as CEO of Berkshire Hathaway. I mean, Nancy, Nancy Pelosi is brilliant when it comes to investing. She went in worth a little bit, comes our worth three hundred million dollars. And I don't care if you're a Republican named Mitch McConnell or if you're a Democrat like Nancy Pelosi. That's called influence peddling, is insider trading, and it's illegal.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I guess if you live in, you know, a gated community and you're isolated from reality, you you know, even like with that idiot, but there's so money. I always pick one.
Adam shift How about that guy, Senator Senator Adam to the House of Representatives, and Adam Shiftless is the conscious of the US Senate and the people of California. They voted for these guys. I mean, you get the government you deserve.
Well, how about Corey Booker. He could stay up twenty five hours and just flabor his brains out and come up with nothing.
And just a hell hole. It's a garbage dump. That's what Democrats have done. And the worst job they do, the more they get advanced. Well, we got to run. Thanks for your call. Let's continue now with let's go to Bethany and Detroit, Michigan. Bethany and Detroit, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham, Joew Bethany. How are you and give me a full report?
Oh, I'm very well.
And then that's what I want to bring up of where you're talking about the problems arising with the prices on drugs. Right, sir, I'm eighty six years old. I elder sit for three eighties who are biologically older than me but chronologically younger. Right, I here are my mom prayers. I've been to care there. I'm very, very familiar with sick people and so, in my opinion, based on fact and experience, one of the biggest scams going is medical
care right now. If people would just listen to the other thing that Hippocrates said besides do no harm, did you know he also said food is medicine, and medicine is food and I can't here, Yeah, my three medical problems. I take care for food. I'm not going to go into detail because of me practicing medicine of our license, but doubt age related macular degeneration, and blood pressure.
I got there.
I'm all well under control, just with food, if we would.
The biggest scam.
Going, the biggest right now, and it's throughout the United States except for a few of us that are under the scam. Doctors prescribe medicine because as far as insurance, as long as you're on a prescription, they can have you every ninety days and bill you and then make your sick and give you that way. It's just disgusting, and I don't know when people are going to catch on to it.
Well, bething, I'm glad you called in because tomorrow morning at nine o'clock, allegedly Donald Trump's going to do something incredibly great for the American people, which is to force the rest of the world to share and the creation of these fabulous treatments pharmaceutical drugs. And we shouldn't bear
the entire price and cost. I can't tell well. Every year, the government GAO tells us, which is the Government Accounting Office of the House, between two hundred and fifty to five hundred billion dollars every year is wasted through waste, fraud, and abuse and neglect. It's an incredible amount of money. And we have the first president ever that is putting the cheese on the cracker and is going to try to find and hold those accountable, and no one ever
did that before. Hell, the federal budget's gone up forty four percent since the year twenty twenty, and that there were a forty percent increase in employees in the federal government. And he's cracking that egg wide open. You can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs, and the Trumpster's doing it and he's catching hell from everywhere. But you know the fact that food is medicine, and medicine is food.
And I think Robert Kennedy Junior, the head of Health and Human Services, along with the Mega Movement for Mothers, who are saying, we can't take this anymore. We have to find out what's being done to our kids. And largely because of food stamps, et cetera. We're paying for the introduction and the body of food stuffs that injures those who and the e cards that we pay for. It's an incredible thing and we got to stop it.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
That's why I wanted to get to you, because the main thing I like about your program is you listen to both sides.
I knew you wouldn't hang up on me.
I tried calling one other program once and I got into.
It part way into where I was going, and he just hung up. And then he commented on the air that you know there are cooks out there. Well, I'm not a kook. I'm sorry.
At my age and taking no medication. My blood pressure hangs in around the one twenties over seventy two's, and like I said, I maybe six and I'm working full time.
At three jobs.
Great, God bless you. Thanks for listening. And by the way, before we before we move on here on the other side, I'm going to play for you a two minute cut that I gave to my producer, Danny boy Gleason of Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight. You may recall Oprah Winfrey, who thinks she can't select for you presidents aunt her endorsement is the kiss of death, kind of like the
Obamas of the Clinton's endorsements are kisses of death. And now I'm gonna play for you a two minute cut that Donald Trump was on Oprah as she was starting off on TV at that moment, and Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight described the problems in this country. And on the other side here we're going to play it for you. It's an incredible insight. That was what thirty thirty seven years ago, and that Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight is no different than the Donald Trump in
twenty twenty five. Let's continue with more twenty minutes after the hour. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. You may recall in nineteen eighty eight, the second Reagan term was concluding. The eight race had up been put together completely at that point, but Bush forty one would get the nomination. On the other side, Jesse Jackson and Michael Dukaka, we're having at it. And a businessman, a billionaire businessman from New York, appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show. His
name was Donald Trump in nineteen eighty eight. So this was about what thirty thirty seven years ago. It's about two minutes long. See if you see a connection between the consistency of Donald Trump with Oprah in nineteen eighty eight and then today Danny Gleason hit it.
What would you do.
Differently, Donald, I'd make our allies forgetting about the enemies. The enemies you can't talk to so easily. I'd make our allies pay their fair share. We're a debtor nation. Something's going to happen over the next number of years with this country because you can't keep going on losing two hundred billion. And yet we let Japan come in and dump everything right into our markets and everything. It's not free trade. If you ever go to Japan right
now and try to sell something, forget about it. Open, just forget about it. It's almost impossible. They don't have laws against it. They just make it impossible. They come over here, they sell their cars, their VCRs. They knock the hell out of our companies. And hey, I have tremendous respect for the Japanese people. I mean, you can respect somebody that's beating the hell out of you, But they are beating the hell out of this country Kuwait.
They live like kings. The poorest person in Kuwait they live like kings. And yet they're not paying We make it possible for them to sell their oil. Why aren't they paying us twenty five percent of what they're making. It's a joke.
This sounds like political presidential talk to me. And I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run?
Would you ever?
Probably not, But I do get tired of seeing the country reports.
Why would you not?
I just don't think I really have the inclination to do it. I love what I'm doing.
I really like it also doesn't pay as well.
But you know, I just probably wouldn't do it open. I probably wouldn't, but I do get tired of seeing what's happening with this country, And if it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally because I really am tired of seeing what's happening with this country, how we're really making other people live like kings and we're not.
What do you think of this year's presidential race the way it's shaping.
Up, Well, it's going to be very interesting. I think I think that probably George Bush has an advantage in terms of election. I think that probably people would say that he's got like that little edge in terms of the incumbency, et cetera, et cetera. But I think Jesse Jackson's done himself very proud. I think Michael Ducacus has done one hell of a job, and George Bush has done a hell of a job. You know, they all went in there sort of as semi underdogs, including George Bush,
and they've all come out. I think people that are around all three of those candidates can be very proud of the jobs they've done.
You've said, though, that if you did run for president, you believe you'd win.
Well, I don't know. I think i'd win. I tell you what, I wouldn't go in to lose. I've never gone into losing my life, and if I did decide to do it, I think I'd be inclined. I would say that I would have a hell of a chance of winning because I think people I don't know how your audience fees, but I think people are tired of seeing the United States ripped off. And I can't promise
you everything, but I can tell you one thing. This country would make one hell of a lot of money from those people that for twenty five years have taken advantage. It wouldn't be the way it's been, Believe me.
Nineteen eighty eight, Donald Trump with Oprah saying the same stuff he said thirty seven years ago. Today getting ripped off by the world pharmaceutical price since tomorrow morning going to go down. He's going to be in the Middle East Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Indian Pakistan stop fighting. Ukraine is going to meet head eyeball to eyeballs, the Olynski and Putin together and there may be peace in the Middle East, Ian Alexander or the American hostage may be released.
And that was COVID. That was nineteen eighty eight with Donald Trump. He was worried about deficit spending then, which was about two hundred billion dollars a year, and now it's two trillion. It's gone up ten times, and it's worse, and they're ripping off of the rest of the world. And there was reporting earlier today that China and America with Secretary of Bassett has a deal in the works.
That is going to be more on it tomorrow. But at three pm hour time Eastern time, head of the Chinese Polytbureau whatever they're communists, for God's sakes, it's going to issue a statement and looks as if they're making serious progress on working out a deal with a communist red China to ripping us off, as every country's done throughout the world for as long as I've been alive. We give them complete protection, We allow their products to be sold here, but we can't sell our products there.
And Donald Trump is mercilessully attacked by Democrats in the media for speaking the truth. He started with this thirty seven years ago, and like he said, I don't think I'm gonna run for president, but if I do, I'm gonna get elected. And Donna Brazil this morning with George Stephanopolos Sunday morning, had a lucid comment, which is rare
for her. She said, the reason we nominated Kamala Harris is that we figured she's a black female, she's gonna win because the American people aren't going to vote for a felon. That was Donna Brazil. Well, we didn't. We saw through the crap the Democrats. Donald Trump is a great man. He's not a felon except by democratic jargon.
So they put up a weak candidate after Joe Biden, according to Donna Brazil, to get her in office as a weak female African American, because they could manipulate her for their better fit and keep the game alive of having the government fund democratic activities. How about that, Donna Brazil said, we had a weak candidate because American people, we're going to vote for a felon. Well, he's not a felon. He's a great American. We voted for him.
Let's continue with more up next to doctor Kurt Mascelli of Do No Harm, what the medical schools are doing? There are doctors and more. Bill cunning and the Great
American with you and all great Americans. Every Sunday night, the Presidents signed numerous eos executive orders dismantling demanding accrediting bodies to stop imposing DEI requirements on schools, whether it's Yale or Harvard, or UCLA or University of Cincinnati, also medical schools, and also the American Bar Association, a very liberal organization, wants to use DEI as far as the
eye can see. But doctor Kurt Mascelli is the medical director at Do No Harm, and Do No Harm has been leading voice exposing medical crediting bodies for putting politics ahead of patients. And doctor Masseli. Welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's go over the last several decades, there's been numerous attempts by the US Supreme Court to get racism out of schools, out of the workplace, out of schools, but that has largely been accomplished in my view, and so liberals, not happy with equal and playing grounds, want to change this argument, which is DEI. So first of all, tell the American people what is DU What is DEI? Then we'll talk about critical race theory. What is it?
In essence, absolutely so, diversity, equity inclusion. DEI unfortunately, really has been this effort to promote discrimination and actions within universities and systems throughout our country that has really put people into positions based on their identity, whether their race or gender, whatever it might be. And it really looks at us in a very Unamerican way by putting us into groups oppressor and oppressed, in creating this dynamic that
causes tremendous strife and struggle. And we've seen it. We've seen it whether through accreditation agencies, through schools where discriminatory practices are put in place, and we've lost sight of the importance of merit and of quality that really needs to be at the heart and soul of what we do and what is made America a great country.
And doctor Marceli, Liberals and mainly ninety nine percent democrats control this process. If you're at Harvard or Yale or UCLA, University of Chicago, any of the so called top colleges are all dominated by liberals. I would also think that the great majority of labor unions are dominated by liberals, the great majority of the captains of industry are dominated by liberals, the great majority of big city mayors are dominated by liberal Democrats. So isn't it somewhat odd that
those who on surface oppose race discrimination employ it. Isn't that somewhat peculiar?
Yeah?
I think it really gets to the heart and soul of where we need to focus on and focusing on who we are as Americans and really not getting into conversations that do put us in different categories and that separate us and divide us. And I think it's so important that we as Americans, as students, as educators, as consumers are very much aware of that and know the importance of the merit and the quality that we see and really not to let these un American principles take hold.
I mean, that's what we're doing at Do No Harm. That's what we're doing when we focus on the medical space and healthcare. We know that Americans want healthcare to be excellent. When you're in that journey. When you're in that er, you want the very best doctor before you, the very best nurse, the very best caretakers who can make sure that you're going to be well, your family's
going to be well. And we don't want things like immutable characteristics and really this sort of divisive dynamic taking place. We want it to be really an approach that looks at the patient and looks at what can be done that's best for them. So, yeah, there's a lot of work that we need to do, and we're encouraged by really tackling this issue of the politics with an administration that's willing to look at all sorts of various avenues
to make our country into a much better state. And really those values that we're founded upon, that meritocracy that is at our fundamental base.
Meritocracy is terribly important to doctor Masseli. Before we get to medical school, I see that Harvard has now changed. They had a chief Officer of a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. They had a Chief DEI Officer. They had about sixty
employees hired at Harvard in the Department of DEI. Then now I've changed the name because they're catching too much flock and they kind of call it the Director of Community Involvement, And so I would anticipate the goal now will be to eliminate DEI in principle, but not in practice. Have you noticed that little bit of a subtle change.
You're certainly onto something, and you're absolutely right. I mean, unfortunately, it's DEI as an entity as a principle that needs to be eliminated because of the discrimination, because of the divisiveness. That is the idea that needs to go away. And we've seen other schools do this as well. If you look at schools that have changed the names of their department, and they might not be a quote unquote DEI department, but as you say, something very different. But if they're
doing the same things, then it's just as problematic. And unfortunately, many of these institutions over the past decade plus have
actually embedded DEI very much into their organizational base. And we sought the University of Michigan throughout that system, and I think there are almost a thousand different employees that were related to DEI in some way, shape or form, and maybe not all of them are full time or such, but nonetheless, it's a tremendous dei infrastructure that's built in place and really does need to be dismantled in order for us to make sure that the meritocracy is what's
driving the day and not ideology and not division.
So you're saying, in one public University of Michigan, the home of the Wolverines, they have about a thousand employees hired to root out discrimination at Michigan by practicing it. It's kind of and you also have something on your website implicit bias training for Michigan healthcare professionals. When you can't find discrimination, and these thousand individuals at Michigan University have got to be spending every day trying to find discrimination.
They got to located. Maybe they should look at the football team that the main players in the football team are seventy percent black. Because it's a meritocracy. I don't care if there are one hundred percent one hundred percent black, as long as it's a meritocracy. But if you don't find discrimination in your organization, you have to change to something called implicit bias. Explain what that is?
Sure, that's you know that implicit bias idea is that we harbor these biases within ourselves that we don't even necessarily know about. Right, they're implicit, not explicit, but what we harbor them towards people of different color, different sex, different religion, whatever it might be. And that of the consequence of those implicit biases, we are essentially doing bad
things to other people. And I think it's a terrible concept because it accuses somebody of practicing racism or sexism or or whatever it might be, as opposed to really looking at who they are as an individual and who that person is. And I, you know, I think for each and every one of us, it's so important to recognize that the implicit bias idea has been so baked into critical race theory and so baked into fostering more
division exclusion. We need to look past that. We need to look to again the individual, who is that person
that stands before us. I know that we see that implicit bias training, whether as a mandatatory factor and licensure in certain states again such as Michigan, but we also see it in some of the actual certification statements that physicians must sign on too, and so you know, the American Board of Emergency Medicine, for instance, requires physicians, if they're going to participate in the board certification process, to
acknowledge their implicit and explicit biases. And you know, again that really and present a charge on somebody that already going into things. They're doing things in the wrong way. They're doing things because of racism, structural racism, of all these different ideas, and that doesn't judge people based on the individual and who they are and how they're performing.
Especially in an emergency department situation where people are coming in at critical moments in their life, the last thing that we're thinking about is the race of the individual. The first thing we're thinking about of how do we save this person, how do we help them immediately? And so it really becomes very wearing on the medical profession of medical field. And frankly, we've seen people decide not
to renew their lives or not to participate. And you know, we need more healthcare providers to provide good quality care, not less. And it's training such as that that unfortunately drive people away because of the ideology that they impart.
Great point, doctor cart Masseli. So you're saying, if a young Bill Cunningham wanted to go to medical school, I'd have to first certify then I'm a racist. I have to certify that I understand that I need implicit biased training. I have to say that I need training on critical race theory. I have to certify that I'm I'm an anti racism advocate. So to get into medical school, I have to certify that I'm a racist. To become a doctor.
All.
You know, for medical schools, there is a process that has folks fill out an application, and oftentimes those applications are very much related to the diversity initiative that someone has taken. It's a little bit later that often comes out the demands for implicit bias, and you know, it
depends on the school. With some schools it might be the first week where folks are learning about anti racism and healthcare and trankly the first week of orientation if anything, should be about the practice of medicine, the hippocratic oath, the values of what brings us there. But unfortunately the ideology is there. And necessarily what I was speaking to was the board certification, so is as one actually is
now an independently practicing position. Unfortunately, some board requirements have made folks acknowledge their implicit bias or as we said, some licenses in order to be an unpracticing position. It really I mean, you're right, much of it does start in the medical school and even the application process, and unfortunately it just sometimes gets worse along the way. And
that's what an organization like to no harm. I mean, that's what we we're really combating, is to look at these elements of DEI that have been so destructive and so divisive, looking to find ways of focusing on quality, focusing on merits, focusing on the things that really matter to folks when they're in that healthcare environment.
Well, can a black person be racist? If if I'm a black gay man and I'm applying, do I have to certify that I'm a racist and have anti gay biases? Is this only for a white Christian males? Or does a black person have to certify that they're they're not a racist? They need to certify they have have to certify that I have biases as a black person, therefore I need to be cured of my biases. Does it only apply to one gender, one race or everybody?
You know?
The these application questions are open for everybody to to state their experience with diversity, equity, inclusion and such, and so it really does leave it open to everyone to offer their thoughts about those things. But again, is that really part and parcel to what an emission process should entail And shouldn't we be looking at the grades and the test performance. And additionally, it's certainly fair to understand the quickular activities and the things that someone has done
the course of their life. But when we lose when we focus unfortunately on race and division, we lose sight of those elements that look towards qualifications. And one of the things that that we do know is that students who do better on the MCAP, the emission test for medical school, tend to perform better in medical school. We know that students who do better in medical school tend
to perform better in residency training as a physician. And we know that resident physicians who pass the board exams, for instance, will actually have better outcomes in terms of mortality and re admissions for Medicare benefitiary. So we know there is a chain of connection there that merit does matter. It matters to how that physician is going to perform
and how they're going to function. And again, I think it's each and every one of us who wants the very best provider before us when we're in that critical situation and need really life saving care, or any care for that matter, no matter what it may be.
Doctor Masseli, I read a story in the Wall Street Journal that this industry and it's an industry of DEI and anti racism and critical race theory as practiced by hundreds of thousands of employees. This is a huge business and this business will not be given up by those
engaged in it lightly. They are completely believing that racism is hiding everywhere in American society, that critical race theory attributes all nations problems to racism, no matter what it is, that all of us have an anti race, have a racism bias. We have to learn what anti racism is. We have to learn about gender affirming care, we have
to learn about the ad biases. President, each of us, do you understand that this effort of yours and others is going to take a long time before the eight billion dollars and there's hundreds of thousands working in this industry. They're not easily going to give up their work. You understand it's about money, It's not about making better doctors or better lawyers or better cops. It's about making money.
And the industry wants to make money. When the issue is what's causing this difficulty or how to solve it. It's always about money, is it not, And that this industry. If there's a thousand people at the University of Michigan involved in this kind of crap, and that's just one of thousands of examples, those involved in this industry of racism will not quickly give up their business, correct.
I think that's what we have to really be watchful for. So, for instance, University of Michigan has said, I think maybe a few weeks ago, that they will begin dismantling the DEI initiatives, and we need to follow that. We need to make sure that when organizations institutions say they're going to dismantle change things, that they truly rid themselves of those DEI principles that are discriminatory and that really hurt
the meritocracy. It is very much ingrained in many institutions, many schools, and I think it's really calls to the importance of organizations like Do No Harm that are that are membership organizations and are focused on getting identity politics out of the medical profession and certainly for other organizations, you know, out of getting into out of their professional areas as well. It is going to take effort, it's going to take time, and it's going to take people
speaking up, you know. For Do No Harm, we have a tipline. We welcome people to come to our website do No Harmmedicine dot org so they can provide information as to what might be going on at their school or at their organization, their healthcare provider, hospital or such whereby they where those organizations if they're not you know, really following principles really meritocracy, but still lead to DEI.
We're curious to hear about that. We want to be able to shine a light upon it because our belief is that if we can shine light upon this, we can make America where and we can really cause action to take place, because folk will realize that we need to restore and return to those principles that again focus
on enhancing quality, on improving outcomes. And for medicine, it certainly relates to trust as well and the importance of having integrity and really believing in the medical system and having confidence that it will provide for you throughout throughout your lifetime.
You know, doctor Missellie, a lot of work ahead of you. And the liberals are hoping that Trump leaves office in about three and a half to four years. He's going to leave office, and they just hold on, rename DEI, rename discrimination, that we employ, change the name, and just way through or four years, we'll get maybe someone like Governor Pritzer or maybe Kamala Harris will be the next president and we're back in business again, beating the dead
horse of racism for personal benefit, lots of money. And I would know that Michelle Obama and or podcast recently said that racism is everywhere and that way to fight against it, and that's a big industry. It's a lie that all of us have implicit advices of one type or another. But it's not intrinsic, it is not incorrigible. It doesn't what we live in. The most are racially free organization America and the history of the world. I'm proud to be in America and I'm proud of what
we've done. And the liberals who must be fun that must be identified, and it's going to take more than four years of Donald Trump. It's going to take a long time. As we took us thirty years to get here, may take us thirty years to get out. But the longest journey begins with the first step. Do no Harmmedicine dot Org. Doctor Curt Masseli, good luck to you, and God bless you, and God bless America. Thank you very much, Doc.
Appreciate Bill. Thank you so much for having me.
God bless America. Let's continue with more fund an organization. You get more of it when you fund these groups that DEI all over colleges, universities, police departments, municipal governments, the US military and the National Guard. Fund all these groups, you get more of it. So they keep looking for racism when it doesn't exist to justify their job. Go Cunningham the Great American. Live with you every Sunday Night
by Billy Cunningham the Great American. Imagine this. You have a doctrination program underway in the most elite medical schools that demand adherence through a particular political viewpoint. Otherwise you can't get in. And if you can't, if you do get in, you don't get grades in medical school. And if you get grades. You won't be credentialed or get your choice based upon your political viewpoint. Do no harm.
Check it out the website, Do No Harm, and doctor Kurt Masseli laid it out pretty clearly how much trouble we're in, and we're in serious difficulty. You can imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and really right wing conservative viewpoints are demanded of our medical colleges universities, how big the outcry would be. Let's continue with more coming up. Next is is Jeri Kaufman. He's got to book out American Intofada Israel because of war and the
new anti Semitism. This is extremely important because beginning Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, our great President's going to fly to cutter and the UAE and Saudi Arabia and the rumors it might be something to do with Israel also to try to get the piece accord underway. And it looks as if there's peace breaking out all over the world. Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday.
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By Billy Cunningham, the Great America. And two or three months ago we had on Yuri Kaufman, who's written a book called American Intavada, Israel, the Gaza War and the New Anti Semitism, and he was such a fabulous guest. So much is going on this week, and I guess next week, and the President's going to the Middle East, I guess the cutter and you into Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. See what comes of that. There's rumors he may head to Israel at some point. I don't know, but piece
is breaking out everywhere. And now I'm told that by Ambassador wit Cough so to speak, that Iran is ready to make a deal. I believe that when hell phrase is over and we have complete splits on American campuses. Today most of the graduations have taken place, and I kind of have two eyes, and I like to see what goes on before I say, boy, this is wonderful what's happening in the world. But Uri Kaufman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's
deal first with what's happening in Gaza. And it appears the President's going to be in the Middle East in two or three days from now to try to work out situation. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you kind of have a wait and see attitude about what's happening.
Yeah, I'm gonna go wait and see. It is a lot going on in a very short period of time. Things have a way of changing very quickly. People have a way of planting stories that are frankly false. There's actually a bit of a scandal going on right now in Israel. It's called cut our Gates, as in Watergate, only with Cutter, because it turned out that Cutter was paying people to plant stories in Israeli media that were
completely false, and one of them was actually dangerous. One of the stories they planted was that Egypt was massing an army on Israel's border, perhaps with hostile intent. None of it was true. Why they would do something so crazy is beyond me. But the point is there's a lot of information flying around in Israel right now, and it's really hard to say what's true and what's false.
I will say this though, Ambassador Huckabee probably one of the finest ambassadors we have working for us right now. Obviously an outstanding governor, was a major candidate for president, came in second place back in eighty one eight states in the primaries, lost to John McCain. No shame in that. And he said there's no break at all between President Trump and Minison at you.
So I'll go with that.
He's reliable as they come.
And in a free, open society, of course, Cuttergate is available. And what the media and this country plays up loudly is the fact that there's part of Israeli society that thinks the Israeli armies should get the hell out of Gaza, give it back over to Hamas, get the hostages home. It's a great thing that the last American osage is going to be released soon, if not been released already, and eating Alexander, and that's a good thing. But so you're saying from Israeli media, and I was there a
couple of years ago. I loved my visit to israel I love what I was seeing as a practicing Roman Catholic, I love the new Pope, etc. However, you take it with a grain of salt. If there was an Israeli real public relation pool about whether or not ten thousand more of the IDF reserves should be called up to have the final solutions, so to speak, in Gaza, to clean it out of a moss, what would the vote be to the great majority of Israeli's No, what's at stake here?
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Absolutely? Now understand Israel's a democracy, and what happened in America in World War Two, where the public rallied completely behind a war effort for the entire duration of the war. That was a one off. Every war that America has ever fought in its history had its anti war faction, had its controversy, whether it was the Civil War, the Revolutionary War. I mean, imagine protesting against George Washington. Well, there was a faction that did. I don't have to
tell you what went on during Vietnam a career. That's the typical. In a democracy, people are going to have different points of view. Israel is no different from us. Now what the people who are anti war, though, are saying is downright silly. What they're saying is as follows. They're not saying they want to leave the Moss in power. They understand what that means. It means go home and prepare the eight nine year olds for the next nine
October seventh attack. What the people are saying is simply this, let's get the hostages back a ceasefire agreement, and then we'll wait for Hamas to make one little misstep and violate the ceasefire, and then we'll go in and destroy Hamas. Now that logic is downright ridiculous, Benjamin, and youo heard it from his head of the shin Bet, and he frankly blew up and he said, you're an idiot. And
he's right. It's a ridiculous thing to think that the international community is going to sit back and let Israel do something like that. Kamas has said the only way they will agree to such a ceasefire is if it is guaranteed by America, Russia, Turkey, the European Union, China, a UN Security Council resolution. I mean the idea that is that would just be able over some infraction to ignore that and go back in the later is just flat out ridiculous. So I would take all this with
a grain of salt. The Israeli public is solidly.
Behind the war goals.
Kamas has simply got to go Otherwise, we're just going to be doing this again and again and again forever.
And I wouldn't know to your Kaufman that repeatedly there's been Palestinians themselves that have said even they can't take a moss anymore. And when someone surfaces, they're beheaded. And the Palestinian Arab suffering is caused by Hamas and by Iran indirectly. It's not about to Hamas about building schools and hospitals and bridges and factories. It's not about infrastructure, not about creating jobs or nurturing a culture, or volunteerism
or advancing education. It's all about using the billions and billions of dollars given to the so called Gaza over the past several years, beginning at least twenty oh five, twenty years when Israeli pulled out. It's all about one thing, which is killing the jew wherever they might be located, in killing Americans. And that's not going to change, which
brings me to my second part. Right now, we're told that Iran is on the verge of peace and it's going to get rid of their nuclear bomb nuclear missile technology. I believe that when health freeze is over, and I hope we're not suckered into Iran once again to believing they want piece. They don't need nuclear power in Iran for electricity. They have the cheapest electricity right now in
the Middle East, it's almost free. They want to get these nuclear centrifugus up to weapons great, and they want to use it and marry it with a missile and destroy Israel. Am I right or wrong?
Well, you're one hundred percent right, And you know the proof is really very simple. The administration is said, if Iran, for some bizarre reason, wants a civilian nuclear program, they can have a civilian nuclear program. Did like twenty countries that do. And the way it's done is real simple. They import the nuclear fuel into those countries. It's at a three and a half percent enrichment level, which is
well below what you can use in a weapon. You can use it for civilian purposes, you can use it in a power plant, you can use it for nuclear medicine, but you can't use it at three and a half percent for a bomb for that and you close it to ninety percent. So what they do is they import the three and a half percent enriched uranium into those countries, then they take back the spent fuel. It's a great system.
It's been around for decades. It works really well. It's been offered to Iran, and of course Iron keeps saying, well, no, we don't want that, we want to enrich your rangeum. Well, the minute they say they want to enrich ranium is only one reason why anyone would want to do that. So it's pretty obvious. You know where they're where they're pointed, and you know this is not a normal country like a Russia, like a China that.
Could be deterred these guys.
If we've learned one thing from the October seven attack, it's that they don't think the way we do. And their leaders have been saying outwardly, look why, you know, raise our kids, educate them. We don't want that. We just want to kill the Jews. We just want to create a caliphate. And that is what Ayatolakomaimi said when he was alive. He used to say the revolution was
not about water, the price of watermelons. But by that he meant, my job is not to produce a better economy job the things that you and I take for granted from our government, He said, Our job is to spread Islam, radical Islam. A.
Our job is to.
Create a calisate. Having a nuclear weapon and hands like that makes a very very dangerous world, and not just for Israel, but really for everybody. I could just go back to Gaza for a second. I would just point out one thing. They constantly go on television, people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians or the Palestinians themselves, and they talk about the suffering in Gaza, and I have to say, all of it is true, and all of it is heartbreaking. But there's a real, real simple response.
If it's so terrible, why don't you just make peace? Why don't you just recognize israel so called right to exist? Why don't you just agree to the two states solution, which Israel and Benjamin and you know, agreed two decades ago. And you know, I watch other media, and particular liberal media, legacy media, and this goes on and on and on, and they go on and on about how they're suffering,
and it never even occurs to anybody. Just ask that simple question, Well, if it's so terrible, why don't you just end it? Why don't you just sign a peace treaty? What is stopping you? The thing to always remember is Israel is not waging war against Gaza. Gaza is waging war against Israel. That's the core problem.
Jerry Kaufman. This could end tomorrow the next day. Surrender Hamas is lost, put down your weapons, invite the Israelis in, release the hostages, and let's talk about reconstruction, whatever that might be. But whether it's Hamas or Hesbla, Boko Haram, just Taliban, just is whatever term you want to use. It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life. Even the German Nazi soldiers wanted to live, the Russian
soldiers after World War Two, they wanted to live. But the goal of these Islamic extreme groups is to die. Their purpose is not to build schools and a nurture and culture or like. They're channeling their fury against Israel. And they've been given the opportunity countless times and they've
balked every time. Using the billions in order to reward suicide, giving stipends and naming streets and parks after those who murder innocent men, women and children, and they indoctrinate their own children with the hatred, hatred of the jew in the Western culture. And this isn't a way to build
a nation, it's a way. It's a suicide cult. And our media and those ridiculous students at Columbia and at Harvard and Yale and all over the country and the University of Washington, they're paid for, their bought and paid for and e I don't like it here, get the hell out. But the point is it's a culture of death. And until Iran and Hamas says, you know, we're done, we're not going to build any more bombs and missiles. All this aid we're going to use to feed our
own people. Those responsible in gosp for the suffering of those millions of Goslins, about two million is Hamas and Iran they're the ones responsible.
Oh absolutely.
And you know, we're in a unique moment. We're in a moment now where there's been this hideous war. It's gone on for about a year and a half. Israel is very very very close to getting rid of Kamas. We're already seeing protests in Gaza. We're seeing murdering its own people to stay in power. They've been shooting people in the streets. There was one guy, a prominent guy, who was caught on camera. They caught him, they tortured him to death. The family then retaliated against Kamas, so
they killed two Kamas guys. So you know things are happening there where Hamas is already is grip on power is starting to teeter. And now think of it this way. Imagine we're closing in on Berlin. We've had this horrible, hideous war, we're about to win, and then someone says, well, all we need to stop because of the innocent German civilians and all the suffering. So let's have a ceasefire.
Let's leave the Nazis in power. We know they're going to reconstant, you know they're going to attack us again, but you know we can't finish the job because of the innocent German civilians and all the suffering they've been It's ridiculous. This logic has never been employed in any conflict in the history of the world against anyone.
Except for Israel.
And so the question I think that, I say, the people in legacy media propagating this have to ask themselves is why is real different? Why is this the only war in the history of the world where Country A invades Country B and when Country B is about to win, We thought you got to stop because you know the people of Country A are suffering when they could just sign a peace treaty. There's just no reason for any
of this to go on. And all it does is leave the Islamo Nazis in power, leave Clamas in power, and prepare us for the next round. It's really just a sad, sad story.
Can you address yourself briefly to what's happening on college campuses? Graduation proceedings are happening everywhere. I think Columbia is having one in a couple of days here they may have to shut it down. What's happening to the several thousand seemingly students the University of Washington or Columbia University of Chicago that are hamas chapters and they're in a sense permitted to run wild. Who's paying him? Do they believe
the crap coming out of their mouth? That stinks? What is happening to college campuses, Yuri Kaufman.
It's a good question.
So a guy named Mark Kotlakov looked at this, and what he found was this is more a phenomenon of elite universities than ordinary universities like the one I went to. I went to a city college at night. They don't have any trouble there. It's primarily a problem of our elite colleges of Harvard of Columbia, places like that. Some say it's because Qatar has poured billions of dollars into those universities and they've used that money to indoctrinate students.
I myself am not a big fan of that theory. I mean, I think that certainly is a problem, and I think that's something we ought to look at, and whether we want to allow that to go on. I think it just has more to do with the fact that these are schools that, look, they tilt left. We all know that, and I think we're in a moment culturally where Look, as I've said, many times, let's just
do a simple thought experiment. Let's assume argument's sake, every fact of the October seven attack happened exactly the way it did. Let's just change one fact, so just to go a little quick recap, twelve hundred people murdered, many many women raped. It enjoyed universal support among the public. The Palestinian public regularly refer to Jews, apes and pigs. You don't believe me, go on Google type and US apes and pigs. And then one final fact, the Biden
administration budgeted billions of dollars for GOZA. But what they would turn the innocent civilians. Okay, let's assume all that happened, but the attackers were Germans or Ukrainians or white South Africa. The words white people who said Jews are apes and six do you really think Biden would have given them billion? And now let's hold the thought for a moment again,
stay with me on this thought experiment, in this parallel universe. Again, white supremacists, not Arab supremacists, right, but they murdered twelve hundred black people, and they rape black women and it enjoys universal support. And then a Republican administration says we're going to give billions of dollars of a to the innocent whites, premises civilians. There one's the premissts who say at blacks or apes and pigs, they'd be riding in
the streets. In other words, what we have here is a classic case of cognitive dissonance in the elite universities. They've been indoctrinated to fight for people of color in every circumstance. Now the problem is that makes no sense in this fact pattern with Israel and the Palestinians. So then they change the facts to fit the narrative. And that is why right after the October seven attack, Barack Obama tweeted that we have.
To face facts.
There's unclean hands on both sides because it was he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was no occupation. Israeli withdrawn eighteen years before.
Just made it up.
The New York Times makes up stuff about Israel all the time. It all falls into the same narrative because they want to back people of color against what they perceive as a white group of privilege, the Jews, and so they change facts to fit that narrative.
Well, highly educated, generally white females, I think on a Columbia eighty percent, we're highly educated white females that are at the forefront of this too. I guess they make their miserrabel lives seem relevant. But the name of the book is American Intofada, Israel, the Gaza War and the new anti Semitism. I didn't think Columbia University itself in New York City would ever be declared to be anti Semitic, but clearly it is. It's elite universities, not the trade schools.
That's not the case, not everage universities, the elite telling us how to behave, how to think. Once again, you're a coffin. Let's keep the lines of communication open. You're a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free. Thank you, Yuri, it will.
Thanks for having me.
It's always just so great to be here.
God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue with more. There it is, and this week's going to be consequential. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. We'll see what happens. And thank God we have the right guy in the White House right now. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every Sunday night by Billy counting in the Great American every few months. I want to hear from Yuri Kaufman. You can't rely upon the mainstream media for any accuracy when it comes to Israel.
They are about the only country in the world that, when they're facing an existential threat of their destruction, is not permitted to win. They've never been permitted to win any of the five or six wars because the media and the UN jumps in and says, you can't win. All that would take for this war to end, and thank god, the one American hostage is being released. Eaton Alexander is for the amaster recognized reality, actually lay down their weapons
and have unconditional surrender. We lost you one. Come and save our own people that we're destroying, and the hostages are all gone. But they can't do that because they're a culture of death, not a culture of life. Israel is a participatory, functioning Western style democratic nation with large numbers of Arab and Muslims, not just in their society but in their kanesset. They're part of the government functioning.
Look what Hamas in Iran has done to Gaza. And one comes away with one thought is that Israel must win. And all Hamas has to do is sign a peace treaty, put down their weapons, release the hostages. The war's over. Let's continue with more coming up next as Mark Meckler of the Constitutional Convention of the States. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, With you and all of the great Americans
every Sunday Night, by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. The wisdom our founding fathers is apparent to all that can see. And in seventeen eighty seven and Philadelphia, the founding fathers got together and draft the United States Constitution provided for an amendment process. I think there's twenty seven currently in which citizens can amend it by doing a couple things such as two thirds of the House, two thirds of
the Senate, three force of the states. They had Article five also in the United States Constitution from seventeen eighty seven, which said that Article five says that they can be a convention of the States. So instead of the process of amendment going through the Congress, it goes directly to the people. And one of the gentlemen in charge of this effort to have a Convention of the States is the honorable Mark Meckler. He's President of Citizens for Self
Governance and Convention of the State's Action. And Mark Meckler, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show. Just in a general way, explain to the American people what is Article five of the US Constitution and how it might be applied today.
Yeah, so you described the first part of Article five, which is where two thirds of both houses can gather together in Congress and propose an amendment, and then that amendment becomes a suggestion to the states, and it takes three quarters of the states or thirty eight states to ratify.
There's a second method in the Constitution which says when two thirds of the states want to gather in convention, they can pass resolutions through their legislatures, no governor's signature required, just legislatures, and they can request together in convention to
propose the men to the Constitution, same exact process. If they can get a majority of states to agree on a proposed amendment, then those amendments go out to the states for ratification, and it takes thirty eight states to ratify an amendment to the US Constitution.
So how far along in the process are we sitting here in April of twenty twenty five you started many years ago, how many have signed up and how many more to go?
So we are well over halfway We've got nineteen states that have done and I'm hoping for a couple more this year, including Ohio, So that would take us to twenty one, and that would leave us thirteen states. Shy of calling the first ever Convention of States in the history of the country.
And what would be argued, Some have said this will be a disaster because it will open up everything and all of a sudden you'll have more fighting, arguing and screaming, And then others say it's required. From my perspective, mark as a great American, the budget deficits and term limits for the House in the Senate are critical. Those two things explain our current fiscal situation that the convention this date might help.
Yeah, I agree with you. Look, there's only three things that you can be discussed. One is anything that would impost term limits on DC and that includes Congress but also other federal officials like the Deep States staffers and bureaucrats. Second is anything that would impose fiscal restraints. And you mentioned the budget. We are going to have to balance that budget. That's not going to happen from Washington, DC.
We're going to have to impose those restraints. And finally is the limitations on the scope of power and jurisdiction of the federal government, telling them things like so you may not be involved in education, or energy, or healthcare or the environment. These are things that were never intended for the federal government. That's power that's been usurped from the states, and we in the states are going to have to take that power back.
And so if this thing of convention actually occurs, it is limited. You don't open up the whole thing. What you do is limited to only these three items, which I think most of the American people agree with, I would think correct. In otherwords, it wouldn't be unlimited about all these other extraneous matters.
No, it's absolutely not unlimited.
Unlimited.
In fact, you can't get the convention until you have a supermajority of states that agree on those limitations in advance. And so this idea that somehow it could get completely out of control where you go into convention with the supermajority that agree these are the only things we can talk about. Anything outside of that would be outside the
jurisdiction of the convention and can't even be discussed. And even if it were, remember, anything that comes out of convention is still just a suggestion and it has to be ratified by thirty eight states. So this idea of what they call, quot unquote a runaway convention is just crazy.
Well, it's a it's one of those canards that not based in reality, but it's a shout down those and you'd have to have blue states signing on to this thing. We don't have. Sadly, at this point two thirds of the states that have Democrats and the legislature. Why would the Democrats who are benefiting from the system currently want to sign on with the Republicans. Well, what's the argument for Democrat legislatures to sign on?
Yeah, you know, I.
Travel around the country. I'm in Democrat legislatures all the time, and I talk to Democrats right now. They're especially interested in this because I say, do you like the idea of Donald Trump or a conservative Supreme Court or Republican Congress telling you what to do? Or do you want to have your own power in your own state? You know, first of all, I make sure i'm at least arms distance away because I don't want to get punched by a Democrat.
But I follow a Democrat.
But they hate the idea of Republican singing control in DC, and they like the idea res storing their own state sovereignty. For example, California. While it's very leftist, it doesn't want to hear from President Trump. He doesn't want to hear from the Supreme Court telling them what to do. This
is truly bipartisan. The only thing that does is give power back to the states, and that means a state like Illinois is going to get its power in a state like Texas or Ohio going to get their power back, So it is not a partisan issue.
Talk about the fiscal circumstance in America. Even though most of us in talk radio kind of enjoy the presidency of Donald Trump, we still have a thirty six trillion national debt, We still have one hundred trillion dollars or more and unfunded liabilities. We still have a yearly deficit of two trillion dollars, and it looks it's insoluble unless there's buy into the idea that we can't live like this,
we can't live on a credit card. And in the next five years we're going to be close to fifty trillion dollars in deficits accumulated deficits, which means the interest on that will be close to two trillion dollars a year, which is unsustainable. And so just describe the physical health of this nation.
Yeah, look, I think you've nailed it in one of the things that I want to make sure people are realistic about. God blessed Donald Trump and everything this is administration is trying to do. We're big supporters, but we also are realists. We understand that every single administration in the history of the United States, that includes Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan, and George Washington, with the only exception being Calvin Coolidge, every administration has grown the size of the
scope of the federal government. And so we can't expect Washington, d c. To turn this ship around on its own. It's also contrary to human nature. It is very difficult to cut a dollar from the federal government because there's a constituency for every dollar. We're seeing this in just this absolute blowout from the deep state right now fighting back against Donald Trump. If we're going to do it, we're going to have to do it. They're not going to do it for us. And we can do this
through a convention of faith. And by the way, if you if you tell folks who are in Congress book now you have a constitutional obligation to balance the budget, you can't do it by raising taxes or fees. Then they're going to do it, and they can tell they're consituency with no choice.
As far as the unfinded liabilities, which are promises made by the government and the future, that number is north of one hundred trillion dollars. I look at some of the staggering numbers, and your eyes glaze over that. I think many Americans are mathematically challenged, and that a trillion dollars used to be a huge amount of money, and now it's become almost irrelevant. A billionaire and a billionaire doesn't matter. And our debt is funded by one of
three reasons. One would be by grossly increasing taxes, which American people don't want. That two is to grossly cut federal spending and a lot of Americans don't like that, but I do. And the third reason is to print more money. Why is each of those three undesirable?
Well, I mean, first of all, taxes, we are already heavily burdened on taxes, especially the most productive people in the country. And when you tax, and especially when you tax income, you get less of whatever it is you taxed. In other words, if you tax people's incomes and tax it more and more heavily, you're going to get less and less income. That's just the nature of taxation. And
we can only tax so much. In fact, if you were to not just tax, but seize the wealth of the richest one percent in America, it might, though I'm not quite sure, cover our deficit for a single year, and there just isn't enough money in the country to tax our way out of it. So that's a really important thing for people to understand that we get the thing of sort of eat the rich and tax the rich into the ground. Well, it's not going to solve
our fiscal wlows. When we talk about unfunded liabilities. I think this is the giant elephant in the room that most people don't talk about. There is so much money that we've committed to and it is unsustainable, and there are, by the way, relatively simple fixes for this. We could
push back the retirement age a few years. You know, when we set the retirement age, it was believed that the life expectancy in the United States of America was roughly sixty two to sixty five years, meaning most people would not collect Social Security for a very long time. Now, for a mail it's around eighty one years. So we've extended this out and we have less people paying the system. Mas is mass that's just unsustainable over the long haul.
Another issue, of course, is term limits. We have it for the president. It would have been wise in the nineteen fifties to include the Congress. There's been proposals in the past for the Congress to cut off their own lifeline of money. It's amazing that Nancy Pelosi or Mitch McConnell can go into Congress worth nothing, they come out worth five hundred million dollars. It's incredible to watch that.
And they do it because the favors being handed thither and fro, and so the Congress itself, Democrat or Republican, they never will vote to term limit themselves because that's the source of their money in the court, the source
of the funding of their life. And am I correct to say Mark Meckler that there have been numerous attempts by generally conservative Republicans to limit the term limits, to make it eight years or twelve years, just pick some number, but the Congress themselves will never do this by themselves.
Yeah, that's absolutely correct. In fact right now, Okay, the biggest champion of term limits in the United States government is Ted Cruz from my home state of Texas. He proposed the term limit still year. It never even gets a hearing, let alone getting voted on. It never makes it through committee, It never makes it to committee, and I would argue it never will and it never will because Republican or Democrat, most legislators are not willing to
limit their own terms. That's human nature again, So if we want that done, we're going to have to impose this discipline bill. I like to use the example of you know, if you've ever raised teenagers, the idea that you would let your teenagers decide how much money the household spends, how much money they get to spend of your money, whether they can drink alcohol one year away, how long they can take your car and stay out
all the rules for themselves. There's not going to be very many rules, and it's going to be a disaster. There's going to be chaos. We the American people, are the parents. We're in charge of our government. We're supposed to be sovereign. Unless we impose these controls on Congress and the president and our government, generally, the government's going to be out of control.
I just got a text from the story and it told me that there was an effort when FDR went out of office, and he was in office elected four times, Democrats and Republicans said enough is enough, and they tried like crazy to include the Congress in that amendment to the Constitution, and the Congress itself would not vote it. It takes two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, three fourths of the states, and the Congress itself would not vote to post the same rules on
them they imposed upon the presidency. And I'm confident that if Barack Hussein Obama was that had the ability to run for a third or fourth term, he would have done it. Of course, when Biden was in office, that was Obama's third term, nonetheless, but it would go on forever and never stop. There was wisdom and keeping it to eight years, and there's great wisdom and keeping it to twelve years at the maximum, maybe eight years when
it comes to the Congress. Lastly, the bureaucracy itself, the so called fourth Estate they're not dependent upon Republican Democrats. They're there forever And as I understand that your proposal Convention of the States would include that the bureaucracy itself, the agencies that essentially run the government.
Yeah, I think that's important. I call this the fauci of them, and nobody should ever sit in a position of power like that for the forty years in the federal government, completely unaccountable to the American people, unaccountable frankly even to Congress or the President. I see a lot of this in Washington, DC right now. We're seeing this deep state raise its ugly head. It's been around forever,
it's going to continue to be around. And if we were to do term moments on Congress and not term moments on the bureaucracy, I think that would make things much worse.
In fact, they'd be more powerful now. The leaking out of the Department of Defense, the chief of staff, others being fired because they're leaking constantly to the New York Times, etc. And it's constant leaking. And if these individuals understand that I'm here for eight to twelve years and I'm going to lose my power over the economy, over the environment, over the tax system. After eight to twelve years and have to go back into the fields and work, it
would change their attitude completely. So I think it's wise to say you've got to include the fourth estate. Those working in the bureaucracy. Without that, they would have more power.
Correct, Yeah, they would have more power. Bill, I would add in one more and this is immensely popular with the American people. If you collect a paycheck from the federal government in any department, in any capacity, collected, appointed, or just as a job, then you should be prohibited forever from lobbying the federal government in any way.
What about the federal judiciary? What about judges that we need forty hours?
Yeah, we need term limits there. To look at the time of the founding, when we said that that they have life terms, that term was never used. It doesn't say life terms. Everybody thinks it's for life. It says on good behavior. And back then, by the way, it was considered poor behavior. If he's freer in public, that would literally be enough to cause you to be removed from the bench. We never expected people to sit on bench thirty forty years when started. Average life expectancy for
a male with fifty four years of age. Average appointment age was forty eight, and so we effected five or six years on the bench. I think we definitely need term limits for the federal bench.
Otherwise they could not have anticipated in seventeen eighty seven that you're going to have judges on the bench into their eighties and beyond. And this thinking. They never conceived that no very.
Few people lived that old back then, so they never conceived of that. They never conceived that anybody would want to do that. And so there are certain things that the framers just didn't foresee. Because the future changed, life expectancy changed, they could not have known these things. So we also, by the way, if you look at every study that's ever been done in the federal judiciary, it says that federal judges become more amenable to a large
administrative state the longer they're on the bench. Again, human nature, they are part of that apparatus. Their offices are funded by the federal government, their staffs are funded by the federal government, so of course they become more and more friendly to the government over time.
Generally speaking, Mark Meckler, how can the average American get involved? What is your website if any.
Yeah, Convention of State dot com. Sign the petition, click the take action tab and you can follow me on x at Mark Meckler.
Okay, that's the website. But nineteen states have approved that. Ohio is ready to go. If a fake Ramaswami or David Yost, either one becomes the governor, both favorite Convention in the States, etc. It's going to happen, and it's getting closer. And all I can say is good luck. I have hope for Donald Trump to do it, but I don't know. It takes the people to arise. Mark Meckler, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Bill, God bless and God bless America. Thank
you very much. Mark Meckler. Right there, it is how you can take governance in your own hands and do what's correct for the American people. We can't live like this. We can't live on a credit card. Republican and Democrats, We've been living on too many credit cards and it's got to stop. Bill Cunningham, the Grand American, live with you every Sunday night. My Billy cunning I'm the Grand American. Thanks for listening tonight. This week's going to be extremely consequential.
Tomorrow morning at nine am, and what about seven or eight hours from now, you're going to have the President issue in order saying that the rest of the world is going to start paying for our legal pharmaceutical and drug pricing. We not pay for it all. The President on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday is going to be in
cutter UAE in Saudi Arabia. We have the so called agreement that Hamas any moment's going to release Eaton Alexander, the only American hostage held and tortured by this murderous death cult known as Hamas, and then also will have Iran, allegedly on the customer making some sort of a deal. I'll believe that when I see it, because Iran is also controlled by a death cult who want to kill rather than live with anyone. And so, my gosh, and I want to wish nothing but the best for the
new Pope Leo the fourteenth. If you have time, google Leo fourteenth World Series Chicago White Sox. There's a great clip of the future Pope. At that point, he was a dutiful priest in the stands at Comiskey Park, cheering on the White Sox to beat up on the Houston Astronomicals at that point in the National League. And he also is a great fan of the Philadelphia Eagles that won the Super Bowl. So here we are and heading toward the mid of twenty twenty five. Number one, the
Olympics are coming to Los Angeles. Number two, the World Cup coming to America. Number three, Donald Trump is in office. Number four, we have an American Pope. Those are the four heads right there. The Olympics, World Cup, the Pope, and Donald Trump make America great again. Believe me, it's happening. Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night.