Portions of the Bill Cunningham Show may be pre recorded. Willie through You by Choice Hotels, a Conor Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized. There's radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill Cunningham. Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this glorious Sunday night.
And of course, a few hours ago the Senate released some of the language of the so called bipartisan bill, which is doa when it comes to the House of Representatives called the National Security Bill. Kind of stick with me on this issue because it is unbelievable. It's taking them weeks and months to come up with this dog. And by the way, this dog won't hunt
and this pony will not ride. It's unbelievable what they've done. And one quick side note, of course, I watch everything so you don't have to. So I'm watching Speaker of the House Mike Johnson this morning on Meet the Press with Kristen Welker talking about are you going to support the bill? Are
you going to support the bill? Now? You would think if the so called Democrats in the Senate were serious, and if Joe Biden was serious, the way to have a serious approach to a legal migration into America that even sixty minutes discovered tonight, with gaps in the border wall and with tens of thousands of communist red Chinese operatives are coming across the southern border, in addition to the other under and twelve countries, that they would have an approach where
you would get from the House of Representatives four or five individuals like a Mike Johnson, like a Jordan. Then you get from the Senate four or five individuals. You get a Chuck Schumer, I guess he has to be involved, but also get a Mike Lee of Utah. In other words, get people with different perspectives and then have my Yorkers or someone from the administration participate in these talks. So then you got the House and you get their perspective
on what should be done. You have the Senate and get their perspective as
to what should be done. Then you get Joe Biden, who's mentally incompetent but get my Yorkers or those who control the President from the Oval Office, get them involved, and spend as much time as necessary to come up with a package involving conservative Republicans from the House that have principles, take the Rhino Republicans in the Senate along with the Democrats, and then get the administration so to speak that's incompetent, and then together have a package which is acceptable.
But this morning on Meet the Press with Speaker Mike Johnson, the well intended but idiotic Welker, the person in charge of Meet depressed at this point, was quizzing the Speaker of the House as to whether he's going to support the bill or not, because it contains lots of provisions that are necessary, and so she is drilling Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House from Louisiana, about his support for a bill which at that point this morning did not exist.
About six forty pm Eastern time to night, the bill has been released. Now. The monstrosity is three hundred and seventy pages long. It's complex.
There's multiple provisions, there are places that coordinate challenges with other parts of the bill, and there's exemptions, there's qualifications, there's hearings, and it goes six hundred and seventy pages I'm sorry, three hundred and seventy pages long at six forty pm to night, and so you have to vote on this to find out what's in it. And it includes, among other things,
twenty billion dollars extra for border security in this country. The bill includes sixty billion for border security in the Ukraine, fourteen billion for security assistance to Israel, which I support, two point four billion US Central Command military, and four point eight billion to support partners in the Indo Pacific facing aggression from China. In additional, ten billion dollars to rebuild Gaza, are you kidding me?
And provide humanitarian assistance and civilians. And there's also other parts of the bill that are basically one could spend the next several months reading the three hundred and seventy pages of this bill with exemptions, deductions, qualifications, hearing dates, interactions with other parts of the bill. It is a monstrosity and I am confident that Mike Johnson and the Republicans in the House will not sign on to this Turkey. This dog will not hunt. It makes no sense,
and they've taken forever to get it done. And when you have senators like JD Vance, who appeared in one of the morning shows this morning with George Stephanoppolos, and you have Senator Mike Lee of Utah, those guys could spend weeks in their staff pouring over these three hundred and seventy pages of single space to find out exactly what's in it. It is so arcane that it would take that long to understand what's in it. Of course, there's going to
be a vote on Wednesdays. Supposedly Wednesday, vote's going to take place in the Senate, and there's going to be tremendous pressure on the House Republicans to collapse and agree to this bill that was agreed upon by Mitch McConnell from Senator the Senator from Kentucky whose face looks like the bottom of my right foot, and Chuck Schumer, the left wing Marxist socialists New York. And guess what, they're not going to do it. They're not going to sign on this
thing at all. So the issue is going to be whether the Democrats in the House will have an opportunity to vote yes. With several Rhino Republicans actually pass it. I pray to God not. We can't govern this way. It is completely absurd. And I watched Chairman of the Fed, Jerome Powell on sixty Minutes a few hours ago, and he's talking about cutting rates sometime this year, and he says inflation is tempered. Well, if you try
to buy something, guess what, it might not be tempered. But nonetheless, when sixty Minutes discovers in one of their segments about the illegalities coming across the southern border, you know it's a serious issue. So tonight we're going to break down with interviews with congressmen and other experts on the southern borders to what's really happening and how it's happening, and how it's going to actually help
the American people. This is the old Washington two step. It is so arcane and so complicated, and so many exemptions, deductions, qualifications and hearing dates. And the key part is anywhere between four and five thousand illegal migrants can come across every day and the border will not be shut down until the President determines after four or five thousand there's an emergency on the southern border. And this is a multiply about five thousand times number of days in a year.
It's close to two million illegal aliens are admitted, on top of the one million every year admitted legally, on top of all the godaways, the top of all the over stays on visas. The Southern border is in total absolute collapse. If this passes or not. And of course Joe Biden, if someone would tell them, does not need a dollar of congressional spending to
shut down the southern border. Declare a national emergency, finish the border wall by executive order, which he stopped by executive order, stay in mex policy, and then course the Mexican government to make sure no one else comes through that part of the border. But because Biden is mentally incompetent and the staff around him is controlling things who are Marxist, they don't want any of that
to happen. And so what I want you to do, just for a few minutes, go up to about thirty thousand feet and take a look at the United States of America right now. The most important and consequential twenty first century trend has been the rapid expansion of centralized government power and the collapse of government competence. If the government did a few things they could do it well.
When it does everything, it does nothing well. You can't have a bill that's three hundred and seventy pages long that would take weeks to understand and read and say you're somehow competent. Whether you're in Europe. We have a guest coming on later, Leland Viddert of News Nations going to talk about the farmers in Europe that are protesting the only way farmers can. Whether it's Europe or Asia, or South America or Africa or Canada, is in serious trouble
because of Trudeau's policy or the good old United States of America. We are in an area in which the failure of governments could not be more profound, and we're watching it right here in the country. And it reminds me of the comments of when Barack Husain Obama. You might recall in twenty oh six, twenty oh seven, and twenty oh eight, he promised fundamental transformation of the nation. He said change we can believe in, Yes we can.
We are the change we've been waiting for. Remember all those bananas that we slipped on unbelievable. And so in twenty oh seven, twenty oh eight, Barack Husain Obama promised fundamental transformation, and it's happening. It happened for the eight years of his presidency, setting up Hillary Clinton for eight more years to solidify the quote transformation of America from what to what? All of a sudden in twenty sixteen, we the American people and a shocker said we can't take
it anymore. The Trumpster gets in there. And when that happened, the system was in a panic mode. Impeachments, lawsuits, indictments continued, New York Times, Washington Post, social media, etc. TikTok when after Donald Trump with the hooks and claws, and that continues even through today. The chaos cited and the countless other examples of government induced destruction indicate that the national
decline is no accident. In fact, it's planned. So let's you and I discuss briefly the four or five areas that the Obamas and others were talking
about fundamentally transforming the United States of America. Number one, of course, they used energy, and I have a guest or two tonight talking about the energy the Biden administration and God forbid, if this continues for another four to eight years, after November the fifth, They relentlessly are pushing the nation into energy poverty by breaking us and reducing the use of fossil fuels and replacing them
with unreliable wind and solar power through the government subsidies and restrictions. They bribe Americans, and even now the CEO of Farley Afford and also of GM have said they're cutting severely back because it was an unmitigated failure. The goal was to change the Earth's temperature. Poverty, however, makes it difficult to adjust
to climate conditions. This is a poverty inducing The emerging economies around the world need cheap and reliable energy, and you can't get that from solar power, and you can't get it from solar batteries produced to course by the communist Red Chinese. Nearly all the developed countries, especially Europe, have shut down their
economies and brutally bullied people and have taken experimental genetic injection of evs. More than three years later, we've begun now to know that the promises of an energy rich future has been destroyed, and that disastrous consequences have now come to the global economy and to people's health and well being because the kind of ev that they want us all to drive. Don't work, very expensive, have no or little residual value. The charging stations don't work, and when it's
cold, nothing works. So the Biden administration wanted to push the nation in energy poverty, and they've been somewhat successful. Secondly, on the border, the US border with Mexico is essentially collapsed. It's undefendable, and in fact, my York has said yesterday on Saturday that we need more migrant labor. We understand what's behind this, to drive down wages and to bring in one
hundred million more people if possible. And right now we know that the Chinese and other over seas investors had bought up millions and millions of US farmland. The violence on the southern border even sixty minutes discovered it a few hours ago. It is historically unprecedented and in fact has never happened anywhere in the world where a country can survive without a functioning border. Thirdly, violent crime. I note that Mike Gill, a man that I've never met, was a
Obama administration official, was killed yesterday part of a carjacking. Violent crime is up eight hundred percent in many American cities, as local governments find it impossible to confront the violent crime because of the defund the police movement, Many many more police are leaving and the police are afraid to arrest anyone because of lawsuits and the fear of being fired, and city attorneys refused to prosecute those who
damage and hurt the police themselves. Look at NYPD and homelessness is rampant, fentanyl addiction and declared a ninety day emergency because the drug use, the poop, the urine, the fentanyl is completely out of control, with many American cities strewn with garbage, human waste, and drug paraphernalia. Think of them, majestic American cities that we've always just changed, we can believe in. There's violent mobs attacking individuals and killing innocent people in public places, and they're
immune from prosecution all over the major cities in this country. And it's accelerating, it's not getting worse, and organized gangs of thieves are invading retail stores and blue cities and Blue states, stealing goods, and governments and stores corporate owners who require employees and police to let the thieves happen without consequences. Understandably, the retailers and the services are leaving areas, creating food deserts and retailed
deserts because of a specific policy to overwhelm the system, overwhelm completely. What's happening and precisely what we seek to avoid, it is exactly what we have in this country right now. We're in serious, serious problem because remember twenty oh seven twenty eight fundamentally transform America from what to what. Lastly, government runs schools in doctrin eight, children in ethnic and religious hatred and sexual dysfunction.
Right now, if you take the schools in Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, New York, throw in Austin, Texas, or Atlanta, Washington, d C. There's little or no education actually happening in those schools. Why because the teachers' unions and the parents elect leaders of the school districts that don't demand educational achievement, that misbehavior in crimes in classrooms and other school properties.
School crimes have increased, and the academic scores are collapsing or declining. There are a large number of schools in many urban areas in which no student in the eighth grade passed the eighth grade proficiency test in English or history, which means many are functionally illiterate. With AI, anti Semitism on the rise among young young people, and perceptions of race relations have gone down badly awful. And that's a specific design of the modern Democratic Party, and it's not going
to change. The only way to change is to make it change, make the change occur, and I doubt that's going to take place if the Democrats went in November, which is why whyn Allen Rut and I both believe, and many believe, that Michelle Obama is going to be the nominee of the Democrat Party because come July or August, the numbers NBC News had to pull out today with the Donald beating up on Biden by eight percentage points and all
the majors, all the major contestable electoral votes in states like Michigan and Georgia and Arizona. Trump's dominating Joe Biden. So the Democrats will not permit him to who's mentally incompetent, to be their nominee. He can't campaign, he can't talk. That means Michelle Obama to fundamentally transform the country even further. It's got to get to work, and that's why it's going to be. In my view, Michelle Obama will be the nominee and the vice president will
be Gavin Newsome. Let's continue with more if the line becomes available. Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Big show tonight. A lot of ground to get over. Stay with us, Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every Sunday night. All right, let's continue. I don't want to be pessimistic about the future, because we can change policy and get different results. The southern border can be locked down without spending a dollar.
The schools could be improved if the residents and communities with terrible results would change the leadership of their schools. The police departments could get much better if we had actual prosecutors and judges and cops in these blue cities that are incentivized to do their job. It's possible. Essentially, we're in trouble. When I talk about young men and some young women it to porn and gambling and drugs, that that is not the recipe for a future that will be worthy
of our children growing up in and so we have a serious problem. And in addition to that, the federal government is borrowing about six billion dollars every day, about two trillion dollars per year, a brand new money in that economic expansion that is built on whipped cream and not anything substantive. So, in addition all these other problems, what we have brought about by failure of policy, we now also understand the federal government was to borrow more money to
keep the same policies in place. And at some point even Jerome Powell said on sixty Minutes tonight that we're on the path to financial ruin if we don't address the deficit. Right now, we owe about thirty four trillion. By the end of this decade, it'll be north of thirty trillion dollars. Thirty trillion dollars with the interest rates staying about four to five percent of the ten year note that means one trillion dollars a year goes an interest to pay off
part of the national debt. Borrowing from our children and grandchildren's future. That cannot continue. Well, let's go, let's get into it. Many great guests coming up later. We're going to start off put a call into James Massa of Numbers USA to talk about the southern border and more Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every Sunday Night, Bill Cunningham, the Great
American. The news came out a few days ago that on Wednesday, Senator Chuck Schumer is going to have on the floor for a vote in the US Senate the final James Langford from Oklahoma bill that would define what new powers the president might have to evict from this country. So many illegal aliens will have
any impact. Of course, the headline number, according to leaks, which may or may not be accurate, is that there's a five thousand dollars five thousand person limit per day, and at that point then certain powers are triggered. Five thousand a day of illegal aliens is almost two million every year.
That doesn't count so many others. And the numbers USA has been on this issue for many years in James Massa is with numbers Usay and James Massa, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And from the speculation that we have today, can you tell the American people why the Oklahoma legislature sanctioned their own Republican
senator? What do they know that many do not? Well, it's always good to be here, Bill, and I would say that what they know others do know, which is that what Langford has proposed and what he continues to negotiate is completely at odds with what the House has already passed in regards to to during the border. It's actually codifying the border crisis. And it's
not just Langford on this. This is actually McConnell driven Langford bill. And so he Langford's catching the grief and you absolutely should be, because the things that are coming out that are being rumored or are just acrosities. However, who's really driving this behind it is McConnell, which is kind of sad. I mean, he looks like the bottom of my right foot. But secondly,
he's completely lost his way. Senator Ran Paul, who's a frequent guest here, he will not speak ill of a fellow senator, but Mitch McConnell is a reflection of Chuck Schumer. And so I would imagine that the bill is doa in the House of Representatives, but explain what the crisis is for
those who don't pay a lot of attention. And James, you and I are connected to what's happening in the world, what's happening in current events, but The average American often wakes up the day before the election and says, is tomorrow the election day? November fifth? Or is it next week? They live their lives in good and simple ways, work, care for their families, give charitably of their time, and they simply live their life.
But most don't know. Most Americans don't pay attention to this. Why oh, I ask James Master this question, why is there a crisis now in the southern border that the mainstream media it's just recently discovered. Well, it's unavoidable of what's going on on the southern border. Just in December, there were three hundred and two thousand illegal apprehensions on the southern border alone, three hundred and twenty seven thousand throughout the United States completely including the ports of entry
of people who have tried to enter into the United States illegally. Even back in the Obama era, eighty two percent of those people were turned around and sent back. In the Trump area is even higher, but in the Biden administration, over eighty five percent of those people are let into the United States,
released into the interior, and given a job permit. So the impact is enormous on our nation, both in jobs as well as on the stress of the communities, everything from health care to education and on and on. And now I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have three hundred and five thousand residents in the city of Cincinnati. So one can imagine in one month we had the same number of people illegally enter the country as live in the
city of Cincinnati, and over continue at that pace. The number normally given is eight to ten million. The past three years under Biden, that number is accelerating to maybe one hundred million. More so when Chicago, New York, Portland, LA, and Atlanta deals with illegal immigration. This is the tip of the spear, the tip of the iceberg. There's another one to two hundred million that want to come into this country. And address yourself to
this issue. Whenever Joe Biden walks to a helicopter, someone tries to yell questions to him. And of course he can't hold a news conference, he can't hold his spare thoughts in his mind to issue a fungent opinion about anything because of his mental acuity. Like thereof, But what are the two or three things that Joe Biden could do this afternoon, could do tonight, to do tomorrow that would absolutely fundamentally change the border without money coming from the Congress.
Because Trump did it. Trump did not have large immigration bills that allowed him to shut down the southern border and make it work. What could Biden do if he had the guts to do it. What are the two or three things that should occur. Well, one of the first things he could do is end this catch and release policy. Catch and release is what I just described. People come in, they're apprehended, then they're released into the United States. The return the remain in Mexico policy of the Trump era is
what stopped that. And it put a stop to over seventy five percent of the illegal incursion into the United States just by saying, if you come here, you're not going to be released into the United States. You're going to have to stay in Mexico or your country of origin until whatever you're claiming is addressed. So that alone could be done. And what's in this new bill,
and this is why people are so up at armed. What's coming out of the language work is that one of the proposals is that they won't actually catch and release them. They will catch them and put them in what is called non custodial care. Non custodial care means we're going to give you an iPhone and we're going to call you periodically to make sure that even though you're in the United States and have a job permit, that we know where you
are. Can you imagine I do, because I see it. Cincinnati, now, little Cincinnati has a homelessness crisis that we never have not had in years. And what's happening. And for those in Chicago and other big cities, they must understand, this is the tip of the iceberg. This is't solving the problem. It's been well publicized now these illegal aliens living at the Roosevelt Hotel, which a few years ago was a wonderful facility in Manhattan,
has been taken over. The six hundred and fifty rooms there have been taken over by Homeland Security. They pay the operator huge amounts of money, and they've thrown out the residents much like in a school in Brooklyn, and put into illegal aliens and then two cops in uniform. I spent five years on my TV show in New York City, and I loved it there with those cops, and they were tough and they were good, and they were in
New York cops had the crap kicked out of them by Leo aliens. They were trying to break up a fight, and suddenly the mob turned on the two police officers. They were kicked in the head, they were beaten, they were punched, and one of those cops is going to have traumatic brain injuries. The other one is injured and he was released from the hospital. But nonetheless, when they got to court that afternoon, more cops showed up. They arrested the perpetrators. It's all on video. It's not a question
did this happen or did not happen. And the prosecutor in New York City did not request a bond of any type, and the judge should have stepped in and said there will be a bond in there because the fear of flight. In other words, lock them up for beating up a cop, committing a felony on a cop. Instead of that, they gave them no bond. They walked out the door. There was reporting the last few days that they are on their way to California on a bus to go back to Mexico.
And sometimes a small incident speaks to larger problems. Would you anticipate in the days ahead that'll be a reawakening of what New York City should do I legal migration or not. Well, I believe it's going to be ignored again. The New York City has been ignoring the impact of illegal immigration in their city and on the citizens of New York, on the citizens of the United
States for a long time, and they're continuing to do so. What they're asking for is more money to be able to process them and somehow house them more effectively, so that taxpayers across the United States are helping out New York. You know, the biggest tragedy in this whole effort by Langford and McConnell
is just trying to reset underneath the Biden administration what is normal. It is not normal for a sovereign nation to have five thousand people coming across their border illegally, to be able to show up in New York or Chicago or any other city USA and be able to perpetrate the types of actions that you're describing right now on law abiding citizens and the law enforcement people who are here for
us in the blue. So it is a new normal. They're trying to say that five thousands just fine is what a sovereign nation should expect from its illegal immigration. We need to have immigration, we need to have it open in a way that's positive for this nation's interests. But it doesn't have to be illegal. We're two thirds of what's going on. It's just coming across
the border and impacting people in our cities the way you've just described. Numbers USA dot org, you have a study about the environmental concerns, the Piedmont Sprawl Study. It says the following the population growth in the region of North Carolina South Carolina is driving sprawl. Eighty six percent of the loss of open space per capital and consumption is responsible for the other environmental endorsements of US population
stabilization. I would think liberals care greatly about the environment as I do. What impact on these I don't know. Ten million, twenty million, fifty million will have on just the issue of the environment and what that means for highways and pollution. Speak to that number about liberals should be concerned with this, but they're not. Well, you know, the members of NumbersUSA dot
com and anyone can join at our website Numbers USA dot com. It does speak to unified focus on the impact of numbers on the environment, as well as on law and order, as well as on jobs and wages. I have people who are really quite liberal on the left of many many issues, but are in absolute agreement that we need to secure the border and we need to have a sensible immigration policy. And I have people who are very far
in the right who have the exact same agreement. This is one of the few areas that Americans across the ideological spectrum are in agreement on that we need to reduce the impact of illegal immigration into our nation, and there is environmental impact. The sprawl studies are available. You can do spraw studies dot com and you'll be able to find more and more studies. We do one for a variety of different states. We just released Texas, we just released Idaho.
We're going to be doing one on Yellowstone because the impact is even occurring in our national parks at this point in time. So there's great sovereignty in our nation, and as great resources, part of it is our environment. It needs to be protected as well. I always say follow the money and
follow the power. Twenty thirty is going to be a census, and because the Constitution counts persons and not citizens is part of the goal of the liberal Democratic Party, not the Democratic Party of our fathers and mothers, but rather the current Democratic Party twenty thirty is coming what in six years? Persons are counted for population census and not citizens. So the more the Democrats put citizens slash persons in California, Illinois, all the Pennsylvania, New York, that's
going to give them more power in the Congress. Because states that have a responsible approach toward immigrations, such as Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Florida, and Texas, they're going to lose representation in the Congress, while these high population states will increase. So do you think possible the goal here by the Democrats? And you might add James mass up numbers USA that ten or fifteen years ago, when Barack Hussein Obama was in office, he spoke on immigration
similar to the way you and I speak today. It must be stopped. People can't come in the country illegally, is what Obama and Biden said. And that's changed completely. Do you think there's a political motive here of the progressive Marxist Democrats to have more and more persons living in various states? So they have more power in the House of Representatives. I think the short answer
is yes. I don't know if they will achieve that objective birth the outcome they expect will be what they anticipate, but I think that is one of the objectives. It effects on the local area when people are trying to provide driver's licenses which might allow them to be able to vote in local elections. It's when you have communities such as our nation's capital saying anyone who's been resident
in the last thirty days can vote in local elections. It absolutely is impacting the voter profile and how the different districts are arranged based on the population. So there will be that impact. The interesting thing though is Jim Robbo is one of our Vice presidents, have been involved in this for twenty seven years, wrote a book recently called Political Migrants The Hispanic Voters on the Move, and what we find is is for Hispanic voters, now, these are US
citizens who are naturalized who have been here for a generation or two. They have moved from being a democratic Republican bloc to almost forty seven to forty nine percent of them voted more in a Republican orientation in the last election midterm elections. So those who are coming to US from the southern hemisphere in Central America who are not criminals, because there are criminals coming in, there are terrorists
coming in. But those who are just people coming here for economic purposes, in a generation or two, they're going to be voting in the Republican orientation. They want that border closed as well. One of the strongest voices today is the Hispanic US citizens saying, no, Moss, we don't want anymore. We know what's coming in. It's not what's good for America. And I'm an America, so I think that there's going to be an unexpected outcome
of that. But in the short term, yes, redistricting can occur, and it would occur based on the population of where the where people are in the United States. Now, lastly, let's say November the fifth of this
year, James massive NumbersUSA dot org. Things go awry, whether it's Michelle Obama or whether it's Gavin Newsom, or whether it's Kamala Harris, or whether it's Joe Biden is re elected or elected, and we go through another beginning in twenty twenty five, another four to eight year cycle of open borders.
That may be good for business, for numbers USA and people contributing, but the fact of the matter is, let's jump at about seven to ten years from now, and the policies of Joe Biden have continued to operate into the twenty thirties. What does America look like? Well, America doesn't look like America today. In fact, this is one of the most significant social changes
to our nation that is occurring. And in fact, it's interesting. One hundred years ago, in nineteen twenty four, there was an immigration law that was placed and it basically stopped immigration, and it had a number that was correct a low number of people who allowed legally in the United States. But it basically it's flew to people from all different types of nations, so it's
very discriminatory from a national level, but it had the number right. In the nineteen sixties, we had the reverse of that, where they got the people right, where they opened it up that people could come to us from any nation and add the value that we want immigrants to be able to add. But they opened up the number and it dramatically grew. On the legal side, It dramatically grew from two hundred and sixty thousand to almost a million
legal immigrants coming in to the United States. Those are fifty year blocks. We stand today at an opportunity to get it right, where we get the number right, which is a lower number than what's currently today, probably lower than a million legal immigrants, let alone to two million illegal immigrants, and we are able to bring and the best and brightest and those people who can actually add value to our nation. Those two things need to both happen.
That's what immigration reform would truly be. That's what a sensible immigration policy is. And it allows for the ability to still respond to acute issues throughout the world. It allows for us to be able to address short labor if we actually have it, but it most importantly protects the United States citizens so that what's coming into the nation actually benefits us as a nation. And that's a sensible immigration policy. We have the opportunity now to do it, but we
could find ourselves way off that mark. What are novel thoughts. The words and the statue of liberty in the nineteenth century do not apply in the twenty first century, and we must change. James Massa NumbersUSA dot Org. All the facts information is there. People can join and once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're warning the American people. Let's see what happens in November. James Massa, thank you very much. Thank
you Bill. Let's continue Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with you every Sunday night. You know illegal immigration is a problem. With sixty minutes discovers that years later gap in the fence, and tonight's sixty Minutes interviewed a farmer that owns the land in which he said, three thousand a week come across a gap in the fence, which is one hundred and fifty thousand a year,
onto his land. It looks like a homeless encounter, and this poor rancher is sitting there on a rock saying, I have no idea what to do. And the answer is it takes policy. It doesn't take money. All it takes is for Joe Biden to say, essentially, you know what, this will not work, It doesn't happen this way. It must change. And so the goal is hopefully to have a new government in November that
changes the policy. Someone needs to tell Joe Biden quickly, guess what you have The power to issue an executive order that would change to remain in Mexico policy and complete the border fence with parts of the fence in collapse. You have the power to do that yourself. Do it. But when Speaker of the House Mike Johnson met with Biden one time, he came away questioning who's in charge of the presidency because conversation with Joe Biden about the southern border,
what come out came out of the President's mouth made no sense whatsoever. It is a serious, serious difficulty and needs to be solved somehow, by not by the bill that came out of the Senate about five or six hours ago, but by others. So let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Willie rough you by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Wildwayan Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice hotels dot
com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill Cunninghead. I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, according to media accounts. A few hours ago, the Senate released the verbiage of the three hundred and seventy page American Security Act, which lays out all kinds of new spending by the US government. Just to go over
some of the headlights. They're talking about twenty billion dollars for border security here, they're talking about sixty billion for border security in the Ukraine, fourteen billion for security assistants in Israel, which I support, two billion dollars US Central Command, and the conflict in the Red Sea. Five billion more for partners in the Indo Pacific facing aggression from China, et cetera. And joinan you and I now is Congressman Warren Davidson too, the great state of Ohio,
went to West Point, went to Notre Dame. Been in Congress about eight to ten years. He's a Conservative, a member of the Freedom Caucus.
And Congressman Warren Davidson. And welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And when I watched Speaker of the House Mike Johnson be quizzed by Kristen Welker about whether he's going to support the bill even and she wanted all the things she knew about what was going to be in the bill that Mike Johnson had a great had kind of liked a little bit and said, Okay, are you going to support the bill? And he kept saying, look, if I'm going to eat the meal, I like to buy some of the groceries.
I like to know. So what's in the bill and why weren't we notified? So, Warren Davidson, Congressman, one of the leaders of the Freedom Caucus, is anyone on your side of the aisle and the House of Representatives been involved in preparing this meal that you're supposed to eat, not at all. And frankly, most of the Senate hasn't been involved. There's been a handful of senators involved, and they keep saying, well, you got to support it. You're like, well, the text just came out tonight.
But for a month now, it's all you got to get on board with the Senate bill and you don't even have texts yet. And now that we've got text and my staff and I've been going down through it tonight. Right after the text came the text of the bill came out, it doesn't look good. Just like you say, twenty billions what they claim is for border security, but a lot of it's essentially funding for sanctuary cities to keep Biden's border policies in place. The border policies lock in a lot of the bad
policies. It turns into a bigger magnet for illegal immigration, not a remedy. And look, we have our bill in the House since May of last year, and we've done multiple incremental bills, but we've done a big r HR two since May, and this is finally supposed to be the counteroffer from the Senate. Let's keep that in mind. It's a counteroffer, and that's if it can get through the Senate. We've already passed through the House our offer, and you know, there should be not a blind acceptance of this
terrible idea from the Senate. And I think really the Senate might exist just to prove that the House bills could end up being worse. So it is. It is a bad idea from what I've read so far. And let's not forget Willie. We haven't even funded America's government yet. The deadline was October first of twenty twenty three, and we're still on continuing resolutions to fund our own government. Absurd, ridiculous. I think the deadline's March first,
March seventh, March eighth, whatever. So allegedly on Wednesday, there's going to be a vote in the Senate. But see, this is set up, and I think Mike Johnson was very smart to say this that if the system was serious about having an omnibus bill, there would have been five or six representatives from the House of Representatives, maybe Jim Jordan. Maybe you pick out two or three more Mike Johnson, along with five or six from the
Senate. Get three Republicans, three Democrats, put Senator Mike Lee in there as one of the three. Then get the administration together, go somewhere, maybe to Camp David, and hack it out over months and years so that everyone is everyone is involved. And so why eat the meal if you can't buy the groceries? And the House of Representatives isn't involved in this at all.
In fact, he said, I don't know what's in it, And so you're saying it's at four to five thousand illegal immigrants a day, which might be as many as two million a year, and then money to give sanctuary cities more money as a magnet to bring more in. If they were serious about this, wouldn't they spent the last several weeks working with people like you and the Senate and the Administration to come up with something everybody would agree
to. What they're gonna do is push out three hundred and seventy pages and Monday and Tuesday vote on a Wednesday, which may not happen. Then it's gonna then Mike Johnson and folks like you were going to say, that's do a man that we're not gonna We're not gonna do this. Then the media and social media and the Democrats are gonna blame you for keeping the southern border open? Is that the old Washington two step? Yeah, that's what they're
going to try to do. And frankly, you know they'll let ten million in and then try to lock in a structural Oh we're just gonna let two million in. Now, I'll see what a great success this is. I mean, they are serious about border security, they're serious about destroying it. That's why Joe Biden undid all the Trump policies on day one. Uh,
you know, they know the effect that these policies are having. And so you know, in January, right first week of January, second week of January, I went down to the border with Speaker Johnson in about sixty of my colleagues, and we met with the Border Patrol because we knew, hey, the Senate's working on their compromise bill. What do you guys think? What are you hearing? Talking to the Border patrol agents and some of the
sheriffs and local law enforcement down there in Texas. And one of the guys really summed it up well, he's like, we were like, do you need more funding for X, Y or Z? And he's like, guys, I don't need more money for more buckets. I need somebody to turn the fire hydrant off and the fire hydrants on because Joe Biden opened it up with all the border policies. So unless you're going to change the policies that are driving everybody to here, I don't know how you're going to help fix
the problem. So that's fundamentally the root issue is not the twenty billion dollar number. It's the policies that are behind the number. And it doesn't look like there's anything encouraging to even hold out as the basis for a negotiation or compromise with the plan that the Senate published tonight and Representative Warren Davidson. W you know the two or three things Biden could do if he could understand the issue that he could do this week that would change exactly the border to make
it more under control without congressional action. Whatsoever does he even for number one? Does he know he can do it? Or number two? What should he do that would involve no money? Well, let's declar I'm not sure
what Joe Biden personally knows, but the administration certainly knows. We all know he's struggling with some issues there and has been, but fundamentally he knows what he did to undo it and that resulted in the flood, and everyone including the union that represents the border patrols, telling him the same things you have to do. The remain in Mexico policy. They came up with this phrase catch and release years ago, which is you catch them and then you release
them into the United States. Now, for any fisherman out there, you know catching release means you catch them and you throw them back. So that's what they need to do. You catch them and you throw them back, and look, we can detain you as long as you want at the border. I think we should keep families together. There's a Flurees decision that says you've got to separate kids. Well, that's how the Biden administrations lost control
of one hundred thousand kids. They have no accountability for one hundred thousand kids under fourteen. This is insane. So to hold families together or release them together back across the border, that alone will lost to the problem. And then you should do like no interior resettlement. So there are a lot of nonprofits that are getting paid tens of millions of dollars to help these migrants come to the country, and then they're getting paid tens of millions of dollars more
to help the poverty that goes on in the cities. So eliminate the poverty magnet that says, if you're here illegally, you're getting not only are you getting nothing as you start coming into the border, but if you're already inside the country, no, there is no payment period. You're eligible for zero
dollars. So if you turn that off and you turn the funding to the nonprofits that are just laundering the money through our sanctuary city communities, a lot of the nonprofits would stop doing what they're doing, and at least they would stop the tax dollars. So if private charity did at a bridge of the gap, that'd be one thing, but that would really those three things right
there would really take away a lot of the magnet. Like Catholic charities and others are paid tens of millions of dollars to care to house clothes and feed large numbers of immigration. If we didn't have stay in Mexico policy, that would collapse that. And so when you went to the border with and I can recall that you were standing there, there was a fifty or sixty congressman and the border patrol, those in the front line said to you, and
I recall the interviews, we do not need more money. What we need is less individuals illegally entering the country and move them back across the border quickly and don't parole them into the United States. And so nothing in this new act is going to change any of that. Can you describe to the American people when illegals come across maybe five in December, it was ten thousand a day, ten thousand a day we know about when they hit the border fence,
instead of hiding from border patrol, they seek out border patrol. They want to get registered in the system. Then it may be many months before they even get a hearing date, sometime in the twenty thirties. But how do you go from a desert area illegally with little or no assets. How do you go from there to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or to Madison. How do you make that trip? How does that happen? Yeah, so here's
the mechanism. They're coming up all through Central America, and the Biden administration is facilitating this, as is the United Nations and lots of charities, some otherwise great charities that we would give to people like Catholic charities, people like the Salvation Army, like the Urban League. These guys are giving money out there, and the migrants make their way up the administration stopping country like Guatemala from doing things to secure the border. They want them to pass on through
Mexico and get to our country. When they come to the border, they do just that, most of them. Now, you know, we've got almost eight million that the border patrols encountered, and about ninety percent of the people that they encounter at the border they process. And they've set up all these tents along the border and in the middle of the desert, and they're nice air force tents. They're not the you know, spartan army tents.
They get heating and air conditioning and lights and everything, but they're tents. They give you the appearance that this is a temporary plan. They get folding tables and everything, and they bring them in and the border patrol agents.
One of the big things about going down to the border. I mean, you don't need to go there to know that it's broken, but when you go there and you see border patrol agents that you know, went into this line of work to defend the country and secure the border, the morale is so low because ninety percent of the people that they bring into this building are the tents. They're just turning loose to go wherever they want in the country.
So then they bring them through the tent, they're documented, and then they turn them loose unless they're miners. There's no good documentation on miners. Separate issue. Then they turn them over to nonprofits and the nonprofits are back in the funding pipeline. In a lot of cases, the cartels and nonprofits have brought the luggage in a separate area. They make them up with their
luggage and they'll deliver them to whatever sanctuary city you want to go. Do you come in in Texas and you want to go to California, You want to go to Boston or Philadelphia or Chicago, No problem, you can go there. And it's all coordinated through a big government, big nonprofit laundering scheme with all this money and our FEMA dollars are paying for a lot of this
relocation. Then they get to the cities and just like Eric Adams has tried to call attention to his problem in New York City, he wanted to be a sanctuary city, and now he's in the you know, find out phase where like, wow, you know, we're getting wrecked. Somebody turned this off and they're having to cut funding for all their programs in the city because
they don't have it. And that's what the twenty billion's for is to help guys like Eric Adams not have to cut his local budget because they're getting pressure from all kinds of people that normally think of themselves as Democrats, but they're saying, you're destroying our city, and you get pushed back in the minority communities in Chicago and New York. Democrats are like whoa, we got a problem. And fundamentally that's why they're trying to change the narrative, is they
know they've got a problem with their base. I mean, you you get you know, a lot a lot of folks over there pushing back on it, and hopefully that means we're going to get a change. We have to stay the course and do something real, though. We can't just do window dressing here and let the Democrats somehow say, oh see we fixed it. Now. All you did is fixed is you gave more money to the sanctuary
cities. So they keep doing what they're doing. Could could there be I watched political commentator this morning say, well, you're going to have all the Democrats voting lockstep forward. Assuming you get to sixty votes in the Senate and you told me off the air, that's if the at best, but assuming you get sixty votes in the Senate and then goes to the House and all the editorial writers, all social media, the Democrats, all the talk shows
are going to come after the House of Representatives as Neanderthals. So don't understand what's going on. And Trump's in charge of the party, and Trump's not going to allow it. All that kind of crap's going to go on, and Mike Johnson said, no, Trump's not giving me marching orders. I'm
doing it because that's what my constituents won. And so, assuming in several weeks from now, there's going to be a vote in the House, is it conceivable that all the Democrats and then pick out twenty or thirty Republicans would vote for it and this Turkey would become law. Is that conceivable. It's
hard to imagine that it'll even get a vote in the House. Frankly, I think Speaker Johnson's disinclined to put it on the floor, and he's hearing that from a lot of us. Effectly, there'd be other problems for the Speaker if he did bring this bill to the floor, because again, it's not just a stand the lun border issue. It's tied to sixty billion for
Ukraine, a lot of support trying to fund something for Israel. But fundamentally, if we can't defend our own country, we can't secure our borders, we shouldn't be funding anything else right now, is kind of my position. I just did a poll on my Twitter. Now it's not a scientific it's just a Twitter poll. But I threw it out there on Twitter ex at Warren Davidson, and I said, you know, should we fund Israel, should we fund Ukraine? Should we secure our borders? Or should we do
all the above? And so far it's like eighty two eighty three percent secure our borders. Yeah, I mean that's what people want to do. They know, yeah, we can get around with some of the other stuff. Some people don't want to get around to any of the other stuff, but they definitely want to secure our borders. And you know, so that's why I think it's just a no brainer to get that done. And the Speaker should just say no, we're not even going to talk about this giant supplemental
plan. We haven't even funded our own government yet with the regular twenty batiscal year twenty four appropriations, which include border security it did when it passed the House. Well, let's move on. Lastly, let's say things go awry. November the fifth, and Michelle Obama is the president or god Joe Biden is the president, Kamala Harris is the president, I don't know. Gavin Newsom is the president, and they announced we're going to continue these same policies
on the southern border. We're going to keep borrowing about six billion dollars every day of brand new money. We're going to continue policies in the inner city. We're going to continue to print money. We're going to have more taxes, more borrowing, and we're going to continue that for the next eight to
twelve years. What does America look like in twenty thirty four. I saw one report that if we don't change border policy, there's going to be at least one hundred million more persons entering this country in the next twenty five years. One hundred million minimum. That means the country's got four hundred and forty million people majority on government assistance. What does the country look like if you lose this fight? Well, look, we're bankrupt either way at the rate
we're going. But if you look at the demographic challenges in the country, we people think, oh, you know, we've been talking about this for years. I'm kind of sick of hearing about it. The scale is so much different than what people, you know, can easily appreciate. I mean, we had more illegal immigrants in America last year than we had babies born. I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot. Think what that
does to the demographics of your country. And right now, the way they've been counting the census, they count everybody who's here and then they divide up the representatives. The way that it should be done is you count the citizens at least for the representation. I mean, there's county illegals in the census.
They're already getting seven extra representatives than what they should get. Now we get some illegals in a while, but not not as many, and so a lot of people say, oh, well, you should be more welcoming to illegals. No, we should secure our borders. We should secure our borders, and we stop doing that with the census. I mean, if you don't, if you don't defend sanity. You know, Congress represents American citizens, you know, you have If you're not an American and you're in
America, you have representation. It's at an embassy or a consulate, you know, and we should get our laws to represent that. And if you don't do any of that, like you're said, in the administration keeps winning in court to stop states like Texas from securing the border and defending the country. I don't see how we stay people. I mean, people are sick of it. Warren Davidson, once again member of the Freedom Caucaus, stays strong. I know you will. I'm not sure about a lot of the
other ones. I know you will. Congressman Warren Davidson, Freedom Caucus of Ohio. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Congressman. Yeah, thanks, Willie. It's always an honor. God bless you and your listener, and God bless America. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, with you every Sunday night. Billy Cunningham. I love spending time with him because he's a rock conservative. One point he brought up late,
the more illegals in each state, the more representation they get. And that's another that's one of the goals of the Marxist Democratic Party. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every sumthing. You know, Bill Cunningham, Great American. Of course, later on we scheduled Senator Rand Paul to come in and talk about what's going to happen on Wednesday with the bill, the Illegal Alien Bill, which, according to media accounts which
may be accurate or not, that the Republicans Mitch McConnell. May a streamline five thousand per day coming into this country illegally before certain powers kick in. But one person is covering these issues and so much more for a long time, as Leland vidtert of News Nation on every night Eastern Time at seven o'clock and Leland Vedert, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Leland, I want to go off base a little bit here because I watch you most
Monday through Friday at seven o'clock on News Nation. You've been covering a story about the farmers in Europe. We have explain, explained that place not American farmers. We appreciate the Loyalty bill. These are farmers in Europe and it is a class warfare between the climate elites in Europe, which are a lot more active and successful relatively speaking, in the climate elites in the United States have been They are the model for green energy restrictions on farmers, admissions restrictions,
pollution restrictions. In Ireland, the government wanted to kill two hundred thousand cows to meet climate goals, and the farmers across Europe are revolting. They have pumped manure into government buildings and around government buildings. They have laid dirt down on highways, They've driven their tractors and combines to surround government buildings. Quote from a fellow where we talked to over who's covering this, and this
is from an Irish farmer. The whole farming community right across Europe are being decimated by politicians in the Green agenda, which is demonizing farmers as criminals in food production. And you know this, the ideas and the restrictions on personal liberty that start in Europe come to America. What six months later, twelve months later, It's just it's a continuation. And there's now a trending hashtag
on Twitter and Europe no Farmers, no food right. This sort of goes to the very basics of a society, and farmers aren't one to normally complained, but they in their hearty bunch were grateful for them. I know a lot of your listeners are farmers, but at some point, when you can't make any money and you're working as hard as they do, they get irritated. That's what's happening. As far as what's happening in Europe, it's not
well covered here in America. I'm glad you're doing it, because farmers get up every day. There's no holidays, there's no three day weekends, there's no time off. It's twenty four to seven. And without farming, without farmers, we don't eat. And the climate elites in Europe want to throw Kansas soup on the Mona Lisa as an indication of their green agenda. And
if you don't have farming, we have a serious problem. And can you go over the two or three things that European governments are forcing the farmers to do that make no sense, doesn't improve the climate, doesn't improve the environment. What are the two or three things if you're in Ireland, if you're in England killed two hundred thousand cows because of methane because of the flatulence. And German farmers in France are more radical. And I don't know if the
Olympics this summer are going to come off. I look at the i'm at elites and what they do to the Mona Lisa. I can only imagine what they're going to do to the US Olympic, to the Olympic teams in Paris. But what are the two or three things that the farmers find so objectionable they're willing to leave their farms, leave their animals and spread manure all over
Paris. Explain the two or three things, Well, I think you said the first one is the killing of their animals, right, And that's not just an idea in Ireland that has been proposed by the European Union in various countries for them for those countries to meet the climate quote unquote goals or requirements that are put on there's severe restrictions on the type of the type of ways that farmers can farm in the environmental regulations they have to go through. That
means they have to change the way they farm. That makes it not only unprofitable, it means they lose money. And third of all, there's the taxes and dot dot dot. The restrictions on diesel fuel, which obviously is a huge input, means people have to buy new farming equipment and have to if you have to use your old farming equipment, it costs a lot more. So in each of the countries, there are slightly different, uh issues
at play. I think what you can kind of get caught pretty, you know, deep in the weeds of you know what, what size engine can attract or have in this country, and on and on and on. The larger issue I think is the class the class war issue, right of of this sort of climate elite of folks who believe in climate orthodoxy and saving the planet from admissions of any type, and that by limiting admissions from cows you
can somehow cool the planet off. They believe this, and they believe that the uh ends justify the means right, so and they're you know, they don't really care. They're gonna fly their private jets anyway, so they have no problem enforcing these restrictions on on farmers and then making the rest of us pay the for And as far as inflation in Europe, we have an inflation problem here, but it's nothing like Europe because there's only a few thousand farmers
in France who feed about one hundred and twenty five million people. Don't exist. And then say also the fertilizers being used has to all change that the elites out of these colleges and universities who have these theories. When theories meet reality, normally reality wins. Is there a sense Leland Vidder of News Nation, is there a sense that the politician is going to back off, especially in Ireland, where they're telling the farmers to kill their to kill their farm
animals because of flatulence. Is there a sense the elites are listening or will prices continue to rise in Europe going right down the tubes because they can't eat well. They've backed off in France so far, there's been no cow killing
in Ireland yet, but the farmers are still quite angry. I read you that quote earlier from one farmer who we've been following in this, Michael Murphy, who's a former UK Telegraph reporter who has been going around the countries of Europe reporting on this issue and the spread from Portugal all the way through the Netherlands of this movement. Emanuel mccroone, the president of France, according to Michael's reporting, has backed off a very little bit. He wants to quell
the quote. Peasants revolt is what mcrone has called it. And and this is quoting Michael. Meanwhile, mister McCrone was in coat tails dining with Swedish royals in Stockholm. It doesn't get more lated than that. Do you see this coming to America? Can you see? Uh? There are farmers in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Iowa. Believe it or not, there's a huge farming community in California. In fact, California produces most of our produce, right, And you said, he said, was it's gonna happen here?
Greach great agreement is another one of their big complaints. And where I'm from in northern far northern Michigan, the cherry capital of America. The airport there is named Cherry Capital Airport, home of the National Cherry Festival up there in Traversity, Michigan. There's a lot of farmers now who it's not worth it for them to farm. They're they're letting their trees go because of cheap
imports from Turkey. So people are angry. And I think, you know, you're going to see this spread quickly, and I think it's going to be fascinating to watch. There's a lot of there's a lot of farming in Georgia. There's a lot of farming in Pennsylvania. There's a lot of farming in North Carolina. Right, There's a lot of farming in Ohio. There's a lot of farming in Wisconsin. You want to talk about cows, go to Wisconsin and I will ask you, as the great American, what do
all those states have in common that might be important in November? Electoral votes? There you go and electoral votes, and when people can't get a double cheeseburger from Wendy's, my favorite fast food restaurant in some chili and California is a great example. Californ is going down the tubes. A large percentage of our produce comes out of California. And if California farmers do what in Sacramento, what's happening in Paris six months or a year from now, then all
hell's going to break loose. And I don't think it'll happen to after the election goes. If the Democrats win and take the House, the Senate, and the presidency here or continue with it in November, and the policies are going to be implemented here and cracked down. I mean right now, Democrats are unhappy that we're producing more oil right now than Saudi Arabia or Russia. They don't like that. They think that Biden has not really kept his promise
on the environment. You can imagine what's happening in Madison, Wisconsin, Columbus, Ohio. What's happening in Harris, Pennsylvania, or Sacramento, California. Florida has a huge, huge farming factors is Georgia. You can't feed three
hundred and forty million Americans with climate elites work in the fields. And if in fact, the US Census Bureau is correct that in about twenty five years, in the year twenty fifty, twenty fifty, we're going to have at least one hundred million more persons living in America, that many of whom are not citizens, and they have to eat, and they have to drink water, they have to use the environment. We need more farming, not less. We need more open land, not less. We need more uh more
individuals in manufacturing and in transportation, not less. And I watched the other day you had on or maybe it was Chris Cromo, the leader of the Teamsters, talking about maybe we're not going to endorse someone this year because they can't stand the fact that the current Democratic Party is so left wing they've lost their way, and so it isn't Maybe some of the environment meental rules and regulations of the EPAY, etc. Are going to be held after the election
and then be imposed because they're not they're not backing down now. Secondly, you have seen, as I have, what happened in New York City. NYPD beaten the crap out of those two in uniform cops. You spend time in New York. I spent five years there with my TV show, and from that I engendered great respect for NYPD under Giuliani and Bloomberg the best of finest. To watch two NYPD cops getting kicked in the head by illegal immigrants
and having one of them flipped the bird. They're supposedly on buses to go back to Mexico. There was no bond set whatsoever. Yeah, you had that the marine named Penny who saved the lives of fellow subway riders, who was locked up and given a big bond, And that's been an issue. So on Wednesday, when this bill is announced, all hell's about to break loose. How can you cover this incident in such a way to be objective, but you have to have particular feelings for cops that have treat their heads
like soccer balls. What's your thought on that. I looked at the video of the illegal immigrant who have been let out on bail or let out with no bail, after beating up the New York cops. As the picture worth a thousand words, and in that it encapsulated everything that's happened over the past five years. Now you can like what's happened, or you could not like west happened. Eighty percent of Americans they were on the wrong track. I
would suggest that that's one of the reasons. Defund the police, no bail, sorrows funded prosecutors who won't prosecute, sanctuary cities, Defund the police, open borders, free asylum for anybody who comes through. You could probably blue cities into decline. You could probably add a few more things that that picture captures. And again, I'm a journalist, you're a commentator. I ask questions, not make statements. Eighty percent of Americans think the country's on the
wrong track. Line, there's twenty percent of America that look at that picture and go, hey, that's what we want. So there you go. That's kind of the In Europe they're called the climate elites. Here they're called progressives. And I can only imagine when a progressive can eat, that progressive may become a conservative because everybody wants to eat. And I can't imagine the
country staying on this course over the next several years getting better results. And I don't know what's going to happen with all the attacks and what's happening right now with the American military going after the hooties and terrorist groups in a rock all hell's break and loose? Hey, have you lived in a more tumultuous time in which people are at each other's throats? And that there's a sense
that Trump should not be elected because of his peccadillos and the warfare. There's a sense that Democrats have control of the blue cities and blue states is not going to change anytime soon. Leland vit or go to thirty thousand feet. And when you report on what's happening, don't you sense that America is almost in the Civil war footing, which I would find disgusting. I don't want
anything like that to happen again. But why the angst that we feel is fundamental despite good numbers about the employment to spite good numbers on inflation might be three or four percent, to spite good numbers unemployment rate. Isn't there a sense that the average American Democrat and Republicans say that we're in trouble well is Abraham Lincoln setting is often quoted don't believe everything you read on the Internet,
And I would argue it a little differently. I think you're right to point out that how divided America is, but I would almost say that that is a function of how good everything is in America, and how good everything has been for the past forty years since the Berlin Wall felt thanks to Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush and a strong America with meaningful foreign policy. And since then life's been pretty good. We've faced no existential threats.
To nine to eleven was certainly terrible. The financial crisis was bad. But price's really really good here. That's why so many people want to come here, the millions who come across. You know, we're trying to break into other countries. And I would say, I think, I think the people who are so angry on Twitter and have such a vitriol, I don't think they have any idea how to even come close to having a civil war, because that we would involve for most of them actually having to have courage of
their convictions and and follow through on that. I know you said, oh well, January sixth, and then the writers can say, oh, well, what about the BLM riots. But by and large, you're talking about a very very small number of Americans, the vast majority of Americans. And then I talked to it. I think that we broadcast toy. They want cheap gas, they want their kids to learn in school, they want a better life for their kids when they grow up. They want to be able
to retire and have their savings worth something. They want to be able to drive down the street without being carjacked. It's pretty basic desires, and I think that that intel we're able to fulfill those, You're going to have a lot of people who are very angry. But I think I think that the Civil War rhetoric, at least, you know, quoting in Abraham Lincoln,
maybe a little far off. All right, Well, you know, everyone's life individually might be good, but everyone else other's life is probably bad. And so that that's the point that somehow our lives are good. But I if you can't watch the media and come away thinking, boy, we're in good shape in this country. Everything's good. Oh don't believe it, you Bill, Bill, don't believe everything you see on TV. I do, I do, I believe everything that I see. No, I don't.
But the fact of the matter is that these are the best of times and the worst of times. It depends how you look at things. But Leland Vitter, thanks for coming on again. We'll keep the lines of communication open. I'll be watching and every night Monday through Friday on News Nation at seven o'clock. And Leland Vitter, thank you very much again for coming on the
Thank you, Leland. Let's continue Bill cunning in The Grand American Live with you every Sunday night and the Leland Vetter News Nation seven o'clock Monday through Friday. And I love little things that indicate bigger problems. There's probably no group of Americans or no group of Europeans more attached to the land and to those who live off of it than American or European farmers. Would you agree,
Probably that they're connected. And so when the farmers of Spain and France and Ireland and Germany Holland arise and they take thousands and thousands of their machinery and they encircle government buildings in Paris and say we can't take it anymore. We've had enough. It's over. Whether it's the restrictions on fertilizer, the restrictions
of the number of farm animals one might have. The environmental restrictions put out by university types that don't apply to a man or to a woman with his or her hands in the dirt producing the goods that people eat every day. It's amazing to me the liberals think these food fruits and vegetables and farm animals and hamburgers and chicken marcellus and lobster and all the rest simply magically appear.
I don't think so. And so Leland Vettererck makes the point. He thinks it a good chance that down the road, sometime in the next year or two or less, American farmers are going to say we can't take it anymore to order as Ireland is trying to do that. Irish farmers kill two hundred thousand cows fifty thousand pigs because of environmental damage is utterly ridiculous. It's policy
that makes no sense whatsoever. I'll stay tuned for more coming up next to Jessica Anderson, She's going to talk about the more results on the Southern border, how disaster it is. It is. Go cunning in the Great American with you every Sunday night, Willie brough you by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at
choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham. Bill Cunningham, the Great American. And of course immigration, illegal migration into America is the top issue in America today. And I see that after the NYPD cops were beaten down by illegal immigrants, and after their release with no bond, at least one of
them flipped the bird to the news media as it left. And even now Governor Hockel of New York may take this thing more seriously. We've gone from saying cities and sanctuary states too. We can't take it anymore. Jessica Anderson, as the president of the Sentinel Action Funnel, we'll get the website for you later on if you want to be involved in that. And she says Democrats are now beginning to feel the political pressure to secure the border, and
Jessica Anderson Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And here's the first inquiry I like to make that it appears the Democrats now have a plan to blame the Republicans for what's happening on the southern border. Can you tell me the two or three things that President Joe Biden could do now that would significantly change the southern border without any more money being appropriated, and the Republicans are not involved
in that. What could he do but refuses to do so? Oh man, thanks Bill so much for having me and drawing attention to this incredibly important issue. You're exactly right. Joe Biden created this border crisis, and he actually did it via executive orders, and so he can undo it with executive orders or by simply enforcing the laws from the Trump administration that are currently on
the books, and so some of those specifics. In the first one hundred days of his administration, he actually signed over ninety four executive orders reversing the very effective Trump era border security policies. So he needs to go back, he needs to rewind put all of those in place. He can do that without the House, without the Senate. That is pure executive action. Over the course of really the last year, he's taken an additional sixty four actions
to weaken security at the southern border. Of course he could reverse that as well, all sixty four of those actions. So it's really difficult when the left is trying to say, well, the Republicans have caused this crisis, that is so far from the truth. Joe Biden created this border crisis. He did it with executive orders. He can undo it with executive orders.
And that doesn't even start with that. The House has already done in passing HR two, which as we know, is a comprehensive border bill that would give actual border security to a very poor sporer, and that, coupled with Biden turning the ship around, would would bring security to our southern border. So when I watched the nightly news, which I do so you don't have to, we never get that information. We're told by Joe Biden over the line of a helicopter, give me the power, give me the money,
I'll fix the problem. And the next question is why don't you enact to stay in Mexico policy, Why don't you quit parolling people inside of America, Why don't you give the ability of border patrol agents to take illegal migrants and ship them back to their home country. He doesn't do any of that stuff. But the media is not in the business of telling the American people the
reality of what Joe Biden has done. And I have a thought, Jessica, that maybe Joe Biden is so incompetent he doesn't know what he's doing mentally, and that the staff around him left over some brock Hussein Obama's administration is actually running the presidency and Joe Biden doesn't know what he's doing. Is that a possibility, very much so. And I think it's even worse when you consider he might have actually meant what he said when he put Kamala Harris in
charge of the border. She's supposed to be the so called borders are and when was the last time she even went to the southern border. It was once in twenty twenty one. So the administration can control the crisis. They are actively choosing not. They have apprehended nearly six million illegal crossers from the beginning of the Biden administration, and honestly that number is probably higher. That's
just six million that we know about. And then they the Biden administration has then turned around and released half three point three million of these legals into the country, with over ninety nine percent of these illegals still residing in the United States. So you know this is a first when you hear the Biden administration saying they can't control it, they need more power, they need more executive actions. They have all of the authority to do that, they're choosing not
to, and they're choosing to flood our country with illegals. I believe intentionally this is part of a larger political posturing that they have to not only keep immigration as part of their talking points for the next election, but to create more voters in the United States, where you have same day voter registration and
in a lot of states you don't have to have an ID. So put two and two together and you get four, well eighteen states, at least eighteen states have drivers licenses issued to illegal aliens and that automatically registers that person to vote, and then the Secretary of the States in those seventeen states send out the ballot to every registered voter, and there's no confirmation as the citizenship,
there's no confirmation as to a signature match. And so behind this is twenty thirty, another census is coming, and the census is based upon persons in a state, not citizens in a state, and so by Illinois, New York, California, they can overwhelm due to the census and reapportionment congressional seats from Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, and from all the Red states. Is that long term they have the news media generally on their side to relate
lies to the American people. Secondly, we've had anywhere between ten and twelve million illegals enter the country under the last three years or so under Biden, and they generally are dispersed to Blue states Colorado, Denver right now is in complete chaos and is the goal then through reapportionment, to make sure that the
Red states lose representation in the Congress. So in the House of Representatives there's never going to be a Republican majority of any great note there because of reapportionment. And secondly, it creates utter chaos and confusion and anger. But at the end of the day, doesn't this play politically positively for Democrats? I'd put it this way. The left cannot win the messaging war on the issues they're running on today. Right the economy is upside down. The border is
a mess. Parents are losing control of their kids in schools, they're being sexualized, They're not able to have a say in what they're learning. Kids can't get a job, college costs too much. What of that are Democrats going to run on? Right, there's nothing that they can run on. So they need a new voting population to bolster their election outcomes. They need new voters, so they have to go find them. Where they can't find them, they need to make them. And so you know, it's not
being a conspiracy theorist. No, just try to put the dots together to understand why would the Biden administration intentionally allow the border to be as open and dangerous as it is now because they see the same the border patrol agents don't change. Those are god fearing, god loving American patriots day in and day out that are not being allowed to do their job. There's a political will that is over on top of public servants, essentially what these good border patrol
agents are. So let's not kid ourselves about what's happening here. They are putting the Left is putting their political will above the law, and then that allows even more chaos to bread even more chaos at our southern border. So I think it's wise of us to be clear about the threats we are facing. It's wise of us to understand the stakes of how high this election is
that's coming November. It's the presidency, it's the majority in the Senate, it's keeping the House, and it's finally having all three levers of power to get a comprehensive border package done that secures the border first and foremost in the way that President Trump did for his four years in office. So, Jessica Anderson of the Sentinel Action Fund, you're saying that there is not additional money
needed. In the media, every time they have a chance to ask a Biden administration official or Joe Biden can't even do a news conference, say why don't you use executive action to correct the border? And they're relying upon the so called mainstream media, which is losing its pinache in order to keep communicating lies to the American people. Would base the decision not on truth but something
else. Can we step back a little bit and talk about the men, women and children coming across the southern border in the last three years plus the numbers between ten and fifteen million. I read a report from the US Census Survey that if we continue on this path, by the year twenty fifty, which seems like forever, but twenty, we're as close to the year nineteen
ninety nine as we are to twenty fifty. And so in the next what twenty five twenty six years, there's going to be at least another one hundred million Americans inside this country who are not vetted, living and doing whatever, overwhelming the schools, the emergency rooms, the highways, pollution, food requirements, medicine, et cetera. What does America look like in twenty fifty.
I may not be there, but I think you'll be there. What will America look like if we stick with the interchangeable drill bit have either Biden, Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Gavin Newsoen, wide open southern border, keep blaming the Republicans for not giving money when it's not needed. What does America look like in twenty fifty If that report of four hundred and sixty million Americans is true, well, we can't. We can't allow that to happen.
I think there are too many conservative loving Americans, common sense Americans across the country that are going to fight this election twenty twenty six, twenty twenty eight to ensure that the Democrats are not allowed to run rampant over our American institution and our way of life, and our culture, and our government and our foreign policy. I mean, is it's it's okay to I think, look at the concerns going forward, but that fight is not over. I mean,
we have not lost our country. Yes, things are dire and they look bleak, but Bill, you know this, I know this. Anytime you go hunting, what do we say in the morning, Well, the sun peeks out after it's just the darkest and we are in a dark period right now. But the sun is right over the horizon. And a lot of this can be turned around with a strong executive actions, with a Senate that is actually controlled by conservatives, not Rhinos, not Democrats, but actual
conservatives. And we have the chance for both of these those things this coming November. And you know, I want to go back to your first question of you know, when when Biden is saying, well, he needs more power to do something or he needs more money. In the first one hundred days of his administration, remember he rapidly signed ninety four executive orders reversing effective Trump error border security policies. He can go back and reverse all of those.
He then went further and took sixty four additional actions to weaken security at the southern border. He can go back. He himself holds that authority. He can go back and overturn all of that. It would take less than a day of signing documents. So let's not kid ourselves about who has the power to turn this crisis around. Biden does tell us how much money's involved on the southern border. How does a person get from Nicaragua to l passo
Ego Pass? How does somebody find their way from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan? Groups of individuals, Someone in Kabbola, Afghanistan didn't wake up this morning and say, you know what, I kind of want to go to Ego Pass. It doesn't work that way. Can you kind of talk about the tens of thousands of generally unattached single mails and why they're useful idiots by the cartels? What happen happens to the men, the women and the children, And how do you get from Europe, Asia Africa to Egle Pass? How
does that work well. Unfortunately, there is a underground network of cartels and NPOs nonprofit organizations that have really nice sounding names that are you know, I think trying to talk about a humanitarian crisis, that they're really just complicit in creating a larger humanitarian crisis. But this, this network of cartels and NPOs and other bad actors all across the globe. I believe that they work in tandem and that they've created major kind of hubs south of the border for people
to meet, to then get organized to then cross illegally. I mean, it's not a surprise when you see the crossings of fifty to two hundred people at a time. It's not single you know, single onesies and twosies people just running across. It's organized, it's comprehensive, and it's just really bad.
You know, Bill, I actually lived in southern Arizona for some time in the early twenty tens, and we lived just south of Tucson, so we were just south of the border check in that's in Tucson, Arizona, and I would actually when I would drive to the airport in Tucson from the town I was living in Sierra Visa, I would drive that forty five minutes to the airport or so maybe it was like an hour, and I would literally see women's heels shoes on the side of the road because the cartels had
told these women that it was just a day's walk or it was a couple of hours walk, and they would be wearing high heels, and they they'd have these that they're telling a lie. And then they're bringing people not only illegally but sometimes even against their will, sadly into the United States. And it's the cartels, it's the NPOs, and we need to have I think a heavy arm of accountability. The House Oversight Committee is trying to have that. Now there needs to be even more of it to stop it. Well,
Jessica Anderson sent no Action fund. We're in trouble. We're in big trouble. And informed electorate is democracy's number one virtue. And those who care about this issue, and almost all of us do. If you understand what's happening, the women that are raped, the men that are killed, the families that are separated at the fentanyl coming in. One hundred thousand Americans killed every year by fentanyl, and there's no appetite by the Democrats to change it.
Even today, they don't want to change it. They want to vilify Johnson, the Speaker of the House. They want to have a warfare law fair against Donald Trump to make sure he didn't get in, and all the bad stuff they have planned for the Trumpster is probably going to accelerate between now and November the fifth. It's going to get worse, not better. But if they had the appetite to correct this problem, they can do it without
congressional action, because Trump did it without executive action. He did it with executive action, but without the content out Congress. He did it, and Biden can do the exact same though. That's the whole point here, and we just need to keep pushing it back on them and just reminding, reminding everyone that will listen to us that this is a this is a crisis that that President Biden and Borders our Kamala Harris have intentionally created, and they hold
the powers to overturn it. Jessica Anderson Sentinel Action fun. I pray you're right. I think you're wrong, but I pray that you're right because we got to take our country back. Jessica Anderson, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jessica, Thank you
for having me. Bill, God bless you. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live with You Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American, Jessica Anderson. In relationship to what was announced about six forty pm tonight, this two hundred and seventy page monstrosity coming out of the Senate brings some great points to the table, including the fact that the media, headquartered by Meet the Press and others, simply want to blame Republicans for
what's happening on the southern border. They want to shift the blame in your mind from Joe Biden to Mike Johnson to Donald Trump. That's what they want to do. Do you buy it? Do you think somehow, some way the Republicans are responsible for the behavior of Joe Biden. I don't think so. Republicans are not responsible. But the media and the Democrats, for the occasional voter, wants to blame Republicans for the border crisis created by Joe Biden.
Why because it's good for politics, just in case he is the nominee, which you and I know is Great Americans is not going to happen. He can't debate, he can't campaign, he can't do any of that stuff because he's mentally infringed upon because of his age and all the difficulties he's had. Plus there's going to be more evidence coming out later from Comerce Committee about
all the moneies millions of dollars taken by the Bidens over the years. There's going to be more evidence of him tumbling down steps, and more evidence of the fact that when Mike Johnson and others meet with Joe Biden, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's referring to a staff constantly, and he can't put two sentences together. But the media and TikTok and the social media and Hollywood wants you, as a Great American to blame the Republicans for Biden's
policy failures. Jessica Anderson is a great grassroots leader of Sentinel Action Fund. And because the Democrats are feeling the pressure, even from Democrats about what to do on the southern border, and there's three hundred and seventy page monstrosities out there now, they want to get in your mind the idea that somehow the damn Republicans are at fault. The Republicans did it. Joe Biden is simply, you know, lunchbucket Joe who wants to get something done on the southern
border, and those damn Republicans are keeping it from transparring. Are you kidding me? No, We're not kidding me. I let's continue with more Blne
becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. Go cunning in with you every Sunday, Bill Cunningham, the great American of course, Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action for America as one of the great organizations in the world as watchdogs promoting hopefully libertarian and conservative positions, and of course to the executive vice president is Ryan Walker. To talk to you about what's happening in
Washington with spending. There are two major arrows coming into the heart of the American way of life. One is a legal migration taken to the tunes of maybe twenty to thirty million over the next five or six years, twenty to thirty million. And on top of that, the physical crisis that we're in.
Even Davos recognize. I watched some of the elites from Switzerland talk about the budget deficit, and one of the speakers said that we currently owe the world about thirty four trillion dollars and that by twenty thirty, a mere six years away, that thirty four will become forty trillion dollars with interest greater today than the Fence Department. And his rights continue to rise, it's going to
be even worse. So Ryan Walker, once again, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and tell the American people first of all, to find the extent of the problem before we talk about the solution. Remember, the era of big government is over. From Bill Clinton, the era of big government is over. Not really explain the problem to the American people. Yeah, thank you for having me on. You're absolutely right. The government is out of control in its size and scope. We are thirty four trillion dollars in
debt. We're adding a trillion dollars to that number every three months, and there is no pathway or vision of how we bend down that curve instead of the spending and Congressional leaders, as far as we can see, and it's from what they've put forward already, have no interest in changing that trajectory or cutting spending. One thing that I found shocking is I saw this graph,
and maybe you're in the business you know more exact numbers. But during the four years of the trumpet imistration, deficit spending one up eight eight trillion dollars in four years. Is that true? It was close to that number. Yes, And so this is a problem that has existed for years. There is a you know, the elected leaders that we put into seats in Washington have no interest in cutting spending or showing the American people that there needs to
be a priority list on things that we fund. Instead, they would they like to make promises to anyone who comes and asks. And unfortunately that's led to the position that we're in now. We're going to spend more on interest alone this year than we do on the entire Department of Defense. That's more than eight hundred and eighty billion dollars. And one might say this is not a democratic problem. Well alone, it's a Republican slash democratic problem because neither
side, when having the power, is going to change it whatsoever. Well, why do you think that is? Is it an issue that the average American here's a million of bills, a trillion and their eyes glaze over don't know what a trillion dollars is. How much that is? One thousand billion? One thousand billion is a trillion dollars? Well, why don't the American people fixate on this as a major problem. I think it's a great question and something that we've been asking ourselves for a very long time. I think
you're absolutely right that people don't understand the value of a trillion dollars. It's not necessarily something that you or I will ever experience or see in a way that makes logical sense to us. And then secondly, I think there is a problem with the disconnection. The federal government consumes a lot and in issues a great deal of debt, but there is no on the other side of that equation. There is no repercussion for the American family, the American household.
They don't have to front the money to pay that debt immediately or an annualized basis. It just continues to pile up. And the idea is that at some point in the future, at some point, we'll have to deal with it. But that's not today. That's a later problem. I've heard clowns and fools say, will simply repudiate the debt simply say we don't own anymore. What would happen if the US government would say, well, we now owe forty trillion dollars. It's now the year twenty twenty nine, only
five years away. We owe forty trillion dollars. The interest on that is well north of a trillion dollars a year, and we're simply not going to pay it. What happens, Well, I think that we lose the ability to raise debt in the future. It would undermine the dollar. I think the dollar would lose its status as the reserve currency for the world, which is actually a very big deal, and we would our economy would would fall
apart. I mean, the international community or the world in general would have no confidence in the United States that we're able to pay our debts, and so that infuses into everything and would prevent us from continuing down this pathway that we're on, or even continue to have a functioning economy. So it's a
very big deal. Now, Ryan Walker of Heritage Action for America, We're told that Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson is going to hold the line like Maximus and the Gladiator as he's attacking the Germanic tribes from behind hold the line. But I have little confidence that's going to happen, because I don't care who the Republican is. We send them there as conservatives, they become
wishy washy meatballs, they become liberals. And you make a point in your article that you would hope that if we defend the borders of Ukraine, Israel, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, every place in the world, we would defend our southern border that funds a lot of this and so, seemingly to get a responsible spending package, whatever the hell that is, I have to agree to spend maybe one hundred and twelve billion dollars on aid packages all over the world. Is that a good idea to hook one to the other,
because aren't they unrelated in a sense? Oh? I think they're completely unrelated. Now listen, I think that the priority of elected representatives needs to be safety and security the American people, and that should be their singular focus. This this other, uh, these other components. Sixty billion dollars for Ukraine, fourteen billion dollars for Taiwan, and the Sack Pacific. You know these are It's a sum of money that's enormous and Meanwhile, the American people are
having to deal with the consequences of the illegal immigration every single day. And it's not just cities like New York and Chicago and some of these major metropolitan areas. It's places like small towns of twelve thousand in Kansas that overnight received a thousand immigrants to their community. This is untenable. The safety and security
of the American people is at threat. It should be the first priority of Congress, not sending money abroad to more conflicts that are seemingly These conflicts will continue. There is no solution or grand victory here for either side. They're grinding to a halt in these regions. And so our perspective is, listen, the Congress and this president need to get serious about securing the border,
and that means passing HR two. You know, Ryan Walker, our government, Democrat and Republican, are fully committed to the defense of the borders of every country in the world except our own. And until it's politically unpopular to have a Kamala Harris in charge of the southern border and put Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell in charge of the budget, nothing is going to change. Republicans mouth the words of fiscal responsibility, but once they get power, it never
occurs. It never happens. And then at the end of the day, the debt continues to rise unbridled, driven a course by Social Security, Medicare, medicaid, the military, and interest on the national debt that is consuming most of the federal budget as I speak. You take social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, interest on the national debt, and the military, and that's about seventy percent of the federal budget. And so no matter what we do,
it's almost powerless. And haven't Republicans been as guilty as Democrats when it came to spending money, They just spend it on different things. Oh, absolutely, Republicans are no less guilty in this situation that we're than Democrats. I completely agree with you, and I also completely agree with you on the stats that you just walked through. Those are accurate numbers that show that Congress
is confronting a serious problem. Their annual appropriation bills only deal with about thirty five percent of government funding, or the entirety of what we spend as a government. Most of that comes from Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and those programs in particular, are within a ten year budget window of being insolvent. So you know, there is not much political will on Capitol Hill,
if any, to cut spending. But what I will say is that these members will have to face a scenario within the next five to seven years of having to reform these programs, and it's vitally important that the American people understand that those programs are the drivers of government spending and there needs to be a reduction in their obligations and how much they dole out because it's untenable. Again,
it's untenable the path that we are on. Ryan Walker look at it this way that a demographer working for the US Census Bureau said that on the current path that we're on right now, there's about three hundred and thirty million Americans, three hundred and thirty million human beings living in America. We're not sure, but three hundred and thirty million is the number. Three thirty five. In the year twenty fifty, which is about what twenty six years away.
On the present path, we're going to have an additional one hundred million human beings living in America using government services, using Section eight housing, using food stamps, using Medicare Medicaid, showing up at ers, kids going to schools that are completely overwhelmed. We're not in the process at all of doubling our interstate highway system to handle this. We're not beginning the process of doubling
our emergency rooms and hospitals. We're not in the business whatsoever of doubling our police departments. Just the opposite. We're completely unprepared for the consequences of having a wide open southern border and taking in four trillion dollars in income taxes every
year and spending six trillion on other projects defending borders thither and fro. Can you imagine a world and you're a relatively young man compared to many, but assuming I may not be here in twenty fifty, In fact, I'm going to assure you I will not be but you will be here in twenty fifty. Can you imagine America with an additional one hundred to one hundred and twenty five million human beings living here, eighty percent being foreign born. What is
the what does America look like in twenty fifty? Well, I think that's that's exactly what we as an organization, and I think the majority of this country believes is that listen, we're experiencing these illegal immigrants coming across the border. These folks have no interest in assimilating into this great experiment in self governance that we have. They have no interest in being a part of it.
They are using this as an opportunity. They are opportunists looking to take advantage of a system we cannot and will not be able to accommodate for and allow these folks to come in and stay here without the system fundamentally breaking. And that is a key point I think everyone should should take away from our conversation is that at some point this system will collapse, and I think that we're unfortunately, very close to that line. I don't think it's a twenty fifty
problem. I think it's a twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty problem that in four or five years, at the rate we're going of some ten to twenty million every year, the cities will collapse. Oakland has collapsed, Portland has collapsed, Chicago's in complete meltdown. It's not as if, Okay, we have to worry about this in twenty fifty. Hell, in twenty twenty four. We have to worry about it because you can be in Detroit, Chicago, Portland, LA. And the public school system is
in complete collapse. It is nothing more than a vending machine for condoms and Plan B contraceptive. There is no education going on in Detroit or Baltimore. The great majority of kids in the eighth grade cannot read and write, and their eighth graders and that's the competition for illegal aliens, unattached mails from all over the world. And it's not going to get any better. It's going
to get worse unless we change the politics and policy. And if we elect another interchangeable drill bit in this November, a Democrat to keep the policies of Joe Biden going for the next four to twelve years. If Michelle Obama comes
out behind the drape in August in Chicago for the National Democratic Convention. At our side is Gavin Newsom, who's run California completely into the ground, and those two take over government in November, and you look another eight to twelve years of the Obamas and Gavin Newsom in charge of the southern border, in charge of governmental spending, and yards of shoveling money into the cities to band
aid over the problems we can't survive. Well, Ryan Walker, I'm done pontificating for a while, but what is your website, if any, to which I can direct the American people. Absolutely encourage everyone to check out Heritage Action dot com. We're also on every social media platform you can imagine. We produce content and educational materials to help people become politically active and to voice their concerns around things like in open Southern border. Ryan Walker, thank you
much, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck and God speed. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks continue whenever stuff, we simply continue. Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with you every Sunday night. Try Billy Cunningham the Great Americans. Thank you very much for listening this Glorio Sunday night, and California right now is experiencing horrible rain. I had on many many months ago a Republican candidate. I gonna
try to get him on next Sunday, John Cox. He ran against Gavin Newsom for the governorship and of course lost in California, but he made the point of California out to have hundreds of brand new reservoirs. So when these events take place seven inches of rain tonight and tomorrow in Los Angeles, the Grammys are almost washed out tonight, that there would be sufficient reservoir space to
have years supply of fresh water. But that cannot happen in California. Number One, they love crises and chaos, which is government, government more control.
Number two, the reservoirs none of been new, ones not been built in something like thirty seven years, and too many lawsuits, too many snail darter fish, so they can't build reservoirs that would hold all this fresh water that simply enveloped large parts of California then out to the sea, causing a rise in ocean ocean temperatures and also ocean water and which causes problems in the
Marianas. But see, California has the ability to build hundreds of brand new reservoirs if Gavin Newsom would issue an emergency order, but they don't do that. So all the water falling from the heavens right now should be used by mankind to benefit mankind, But it doesn't work that way because the crises in California are so great that the only government can solve them, which takes away
the power of individuals but gives government more power. I began about three hours ago talking about the failure of large governments and whether it's economically on the southern border, whether it's evs, whether it's oil depletion, whether it's not building reservoirs. We have nothing but crises everywhere I look. And Ryan Walker,
my last guest from Heritage, talk about the financial crisis. Earlier tonight, Jerown Powell was on sixty Minutes saying there may be a cut in interest rates later this year, but he also said that do we have to address the debt borrowing that we're having. Imagine a country that has to take out new credit cards every few weeks to pay interest on the old credit cards. By
any objective standard, America is bankrupt. We have no money. We're borrowing from future generations two trillion dollars now a year, two trillion a year, and a budget deficit accumulated to thirty four trillion dollars. Obama talked about fundamentally transforming America into what from what I think, America is a great place, but we have to start enforcing laws and we have to quit borrowing money from future generations to fund our current needs. If you don't have the money your
parents told you you don't have the money, you can't get it. And this Senate bill of three hundred and seventy pages, released at six forty pm to night, spends money to defend the borders of the Ukraine without significantly guarding the borders of this country. In fact, it puts in place policies that would tie Donald Trump hands should he be elected. We can't have that. All it takes is executive order and a backbone in order to correct much of
what's happening on the southern border. And if that would happen, we'd be in much better shape. Once again, thank you very much for listening and many guests tonight. I especially enjoyed Leland Vittert and many others in Congressman Warren Davidson who said that the bill in the House is dead on arrival. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every Sunday. No