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All right now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. What a glorious Sunday night. Throughout the nation and the world things are happening. There's a report out of Fox News that before midnight tonight, what's about about two hours from now or less than that, we're going to have a report out of the Trump administration that they're firing about twenty one hundred more USA workers. And the notice is going out now as we speak on this Sunday night, getting
ready for this week. It's going to be a great week.
I watched, of course, sixty minutes as much as I could with my finger stuck down my throat, watching the report of Scott Pelley about how important the Department of Justice has been to the United States of America, comparing a constitutional crisis to what happened in nineteen seventy three and nineteen seventy four with Richard Nixon, going back to eighteen twenty seven when President to Andrew Jackson said, if this Supreme Court rules against me, let them enforce their
own So the media, especially sixty Minutes, it's about to pay I think Donald Trump about ten million dollars in damages for the non reporting of the interview of Kamala Harris. But that's a different matter. That the media drumbeat is beginning to get louder, that this is some illegitimate president
who shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Of course, the thesis of Scott Pelly Tonight on Sixty Minutes was that the Department of Justice is the final arbitrator of all things right, good and just in the entire world, and that somehow, if Donald Trump wants to install his own people at the Department of Justice, which has happened for the past one hundred years by almost every president, that somehow that is sick and it's wrong, and it's a
constitutional crisis. And I watched some of this report, I harkened back to all the topics you and I have listened to and done together, and that is what the Biden administration did purposely to Donald Trump, not just Donald Trump, but to everyone around Donald Trump in the White House's lawyers, his consultants, including chiefs of staff, etc. To bring them down with the goal of getting Donald Trump locked up
before the twenty twenty four election. And but for the stupidity and the recalcitrance of certain special counsel, it likely would have happened. I often say when I speak to members of the Trump family the road not taken, which is, there is no question in my mind that if Jack Smith was a bit more competent and started this thing a year before he started it under the auspices of Mary Garland, Joe Biden, who repeatedly said he wanted Donald Trump prosecuted.
Yes he did.
The President said, prosecute directly and indirectly Donald Trump. If he would have started that damn thing a year before he did, and this thing was before a jury in d C in Washington, d C. Is there any doubt in your mind what the vericut would have been, Any doubt in your mind that Judge Tanya Chudkin, who is Obama appoint in a left winger, would have sent Donald Trump to jail. She would have locked him up forthwith
and threw away the key. So how lucky. I often say the prayer of the archangel Michael about the evil crawling the earth looking to ruin souls and destroy lives. And the system came close to being overwhelmed, not by Donald Trump, but by the illegalities of the FBI and
the Department of Justice at the highest level. And so when I watched this report tonight in sixty minutes, I couldn't believe my eyes that I was hearing that sixty minutes was saying, you know what, the Department of Justice and the FBI will be used by Donald Trump to go after his political opponents, which is precisely which is exactly what Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama and Kamala Harris did for twelve twelve years after the political opponents
of the Democrats. That's what they did, and panel grand juries, frighten people to death, and they did everything in their power to make sure Donald Trump was not eligible to run for the presidency. And it just didn't work out by timing wise, and the fact that Judge Chunkin couldn't get the defendant in front of her in time. The case that went first was the one in New York City.
That was a joke, that was unbelievable to put that thing on trial, And at some point in the next six months, that entire thing will be reversed and Donald Trump, so to speak, will not be a convicted felon. He will be a free man, the victim of a political witch hunt that was started by the Democrats to go after Donald Trump, and so much more so, I kind of snickered. I snickered tonight watching Scott Pelly and his erudite, arrogant fashion talk about how Donald Trump is going to
be a threat to democracy. Well, that's what I've been watching for the last eight to twelve years. As the Department of Justice went after Catholic churches, the Knights of Columbus, they went after parents and school board meetings, they went after grandmothers who prayed in front of abortion clinics. They weaponized the Department of Justice against their political opponents. Now that the shoe was on the other foot, from the
left foot to the right foot. Now it's completely disreputable what Donald Trump seeks to do to get the truth out.
And I do trust Palm Pam BONDI the new Attorney General and also the new FBI director, Cash Ptel, to do what's right within the law, and not to give Hillary Clinton a free pass who bleach bit at her servers under a subpoena and took a jackhammer to him, and not to Joe Biden, who had classified materials when he wasn't the president as a senator at a VP and he couldn't be classify in different locations including his garage, and all of a sudden he wasn't mentally incompetent.
Couldn't be prosecutor are you kidding me?
That's what the Department of Justice did, and it's sick and it's sad. So I just I sat there a few hours ago and just be mused at the idea at sixty minutes was going to be the arbitrator of using the Department of Justice to go after one's political opponents, which is exactly what happened, exactly what happened to Donald Trump. And also in a sense Richard Nixon, I'm not going
to relate to gay Watergate. What he did in Watergate was wrong, but he did the same things politically that Democratic presidents including John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson had did repeatedly. He came out of that genre. But on one hand, you couldn't go after Kennedy obviously, and Johnson was a media favorite and media darling. So by the time he left office, and four years after he left office, he was dead, and it was simply thought
that we'll go after the Republican. Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy two got forty nine out of fifty states, had nothing to do with Watergate, but then he engaged in behavior to cover it up, which other president aident's Democrat and Republican they had done for decades. Doesn't make it right, but it makes it political. So get ready. It's going to be a rough ride this week. But a couple of things I want to bring it first and foremost.
You know about my feelings about cops, about police officers, the thin blue line between democracy and anarchy, and we lost a few great ones the last few days. I'm watching TV on Friday night and I see that an old friend of mine is now the chief of police in Virginia Beach.
His name is Paul Newdigate.
He spent about twenty years as an assistant chief in the city of Cincinnati where I live. In broadcast from It's about the best there is. Chief Newdigate reported that two young officers were gunned down in the streets of Virginia Beach. I want you to know their names tonight, and before you go to bed tonight, I would like you to consider saying a silent prayer for the repose
of the soul. A police officer Cameron Gerwin and twenty five years old, been on the forces for a couple of years, and also officer Christopher Reese, thirty years old. And Friday night, they were doing routine traffic patrol and they noticed an expired license plate of someone. They simply pulled the car over, which is happening tens of thousands of time every day, every night in America. And unbeknownst to them, there was a felon in that car within
the legal gun in his possession. He had numerous felon convictions. His name was John McCoy. And they walked up the side of the car asked for as for the license, proof of insurance and registration. He didn't have it available because he didn't have one. Unbeknownst to them, they were a few seconds of being murdered. They told mister McCoy, John McCoy, you got to get out of the car. He refused to get out of the car. He finally
was coursed to leave the vehicle. He gets out of the car and pulls out of his jacket pocket a pistol shoots both officers. Officers went down in the streets of Virginia Beach, and then he stood over both of them and shot them again and again, defenseless on the streets of Virginia Beach. And at this point the police convened on the site. He was located a couple hundred yards away in a shed hiding and there was a single gunshot wound administered to the side of his temple.
And John McCoy right now is riding in hell with many others and these two officers. The funerals are going to be later this week, and just I will say a prayer of thanks for the sacrifice these men, these guys made on my behalf is the thin blue line betweent de marcros and anarchy, anarchy once again. It's Officer Cameron Gervin g I r v N, twenty five years old and Officer Christopher Reese, only thirty years old, murdered
executed on the streets of Virginia Beach. Then, also about a day and a half ago, this has become an all too common event. There was a person who was angry about the medical care provided to a friend of his. They think that's the motive, but the police in York, PA are not exactly sure. Governor Shapiro did a fine news conference a couple of days ago, and there was a criminal named Diogenes Ortiz, forty nine years old who reported to the UPMC Memorial Hospital in York, Pennsylvania with
zip ties and a weapon. He invaded the intensive care unit at the UPMC Memorial Hospital and the attacked targeted specific individuals who he perceived as being medical individuals who did not assist a friend of theirs.
Of course, it's only been a couple.
Of days, so actually why the motive might be not as clear as it will be in the future. But this man, this murderer, a zip tide, a couple nurses and doc targeting specific staff members who allegedly did not provide care to a friend of his. Officer Andrew Douart, very young cop, but he's been at it for about five or six years, ran toward the difficulties. Shots were fired and Officer Andrew Duhart was murdered inside the hospital and others were injured and wounded, but they will survive.
But again, add Officer Andrew Douart to your list of a brave American who stepped forward. And this is a wave.
When I went to a Google search on this, there has been an increase and that's why we have John Lott coming up later of political medical assassinations in which individuals seemingly are displeased with medical care, medical services, or the hospital industry or the healthcare business, and it taken upon themselves to kill individuals associated therein I'm HARKing back, of course, to what happened with Luigi Mangioni, the murderer of Brian Thompson on December the fourth, CEO United Healthcare.
He's become a hero with some liberals because he represented insurance companies, and I would assume that these docs and these intensive care nurses represented what medical care for those in need. And so there's been a string of attacks, I think encouraged by some in the left wing media, as if this is justified. How many times have you heard the past three or four months that the murder
of Brian Thompson was somehow justified. It was somehow justified because he was the CEO of You're Not of Healthcare, which is a for profit business operating within the laws of this country. And Luigi hunted him down, spent weeks planning it, executed him, shot him in the back like a coward, and as he died on the sidewalks of New York the murderer Luigi made his way was finally captured three or four days later at of McDonald's in Pennsylvania.
It's sad, and of course this is the date before I get in the essence of today's remarks, which is
the date that my father spent time in Iwajima. It was exactly eighty years ago today, on February twenty third, nineteen forty five, that six brave Marines raised the American flag on Ewajima's Mount Sarabaci in commemoration of the fact that after several weeks of fighting, vicious, cruel, unbelievable violence inflicted upon American Marines and others by Japanese devendors, that this was a circumstance where it was thought, okay, let's wave the American flag, which will rally the troops, and
fighting continued for about another about another.
Two or three weeks.
At the end of the battle, which is things turned out because of Rosia Mo Nagasaki probably did not have to take place at all. It was going to be a landing strip to be used in the future in nineteen forty six for the assault on the Japanese mainland. But at that point in March, in February and March of nineteen forty five was uncertain the ending of the war, and so at that point there were seven thousand Marines killed.
There were another fourteen thousand marines injured. The dead on the evil side, the Japanese Imperial Army side was immense. Out of all the twenty eight thousand defenders of You with Jimma, only about one hundred and seventy five Japanese soldiers remain. They killed themselves or in waves of attacks on American marines would be killed. And that brings up the whole concept I think of unconditional surrender. The only way to win a war is to fight it all out,
and to win there is no substitute for victory. I recall the great scene of Georgie Patten and the movie Patent Late and I think sixty eight or sixty nine, in which he said, I won't use the B word referring to a childless, a child without a known father, but he said, American soldiers will win this war not because they're going to die for their country, because they make the enemy die for their country. And America won that war with unconditional surrender of the Germans, the Italians,
the Austrians, and of course the Japanese unconditional surrender. It was thought, okay, let's have some plan here, let's do something to have some conditional surrender. And whoever was in charge, whether it was FDR or was Harry S. Truman, he said, no, it's unconditional surrender. We occupy your island, we occupy your homeland. We will prosecute this thing until total victory. I'm getting to a point here about Israel, and the fact is that when the existence of this country was at stake,
what did we do? Did we have conditional surrender? Did we not use everything in our power, in our prestige to save this country, which I consider to be God's representative on Earth, of course not We firebombed Dresden one hundred thousand civilians. We leveled every German city, killing millions and millions of innocent men, women and children. In a sense they were Germans. They weren't in the battle, but
they were Germans. They were part of the effort. And when it came time to go after Japan that viciously killed about two thousand of our citizens of Pear Harbor on the summer of the seventh nineteen forty one, there wasn't much outcry of using too much force against the nation's enemy, that that is, the nation of Japan, and did everything in their power to make the Japanese surrender ahead of time before the two bombs were dropped on August the sixth and August the ninth, nineteen forty five,
on Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, and the words of the Emperor Hirohito were heard for the first time over a broadcast provided by the American military forces to tell his Japanese people to surrender.
That's it, it's over.
And then we occupied the island, We occupied German and we won.
We won.
They lost total war, and every means necessary We brought the war. They wanted war, We brought it. But we've not really won a war since nineteen forty five because civilization would not allow it to occur. When I spent time in Israel, their existence is at stake. Just a few days ago, there was a plan to blow up five buses and trains packed with Israelis on their way to work. Sadly, someone put in the wrong time of the timer on the bombs on the buses and the trains.
Instead of having go off at nine am Tel Aviv time, it was nine pm and that was the default, and they miscueued the time of the bombs.
To go off.
They intended to kill literally thousands and thousands of Jews every chance they get.
What do they do? They kill Jews?
And so much like America in nineteen forty five, we must, as supporters of Israel, encourage Benjamin Netanyahu to have unconditional surrender of a moss has Blat in Iran and end this war once and for all. Let's continue with more. Will set up more later on Bill cunning In The Great American with you every Sunday night by Billy cunning Him the Great American. Let's set up tonight's big show. We've scheduled. They have you and I join us tonight.
Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. He's so pleased he can't stand it anymore about what's happening to the American economy. Also John Lott, former Deputy Attorney General under Donald Trump on the first ideation about what's going to happen now is that there will be more reporting of crimes committed instead of prosecutions, because, as you know, the last of four years, every time you turn on the mainstream media, they would tell you, you know what, crime is down.
Crime is down.
No, no arrest are down, indictments are down. But actually crime is up. Crime in America, as you know, is up. It's demonstrated by the few remarks I made the beginning about the killing of so many police officers and killing of those involved in the medical industry. When the expectations
are one thing, the reality is another. They have someone in made intensive care unit at a major hospital in York, Pennsylvania, and to take hostage doctors and nurses, and then to have a police officer murdered in the process, that the murderer killed an innocent police officer, particularly discussing let's continue with more the line becomes available eight six six six four seven seven three three seven. Also later on tonight is is a man named gorm who's a great environmentalists
and more. Bill Cunningham with you and all of the great Americans every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, the Great American.
It kind of came lust about an hour ago.
One of the individuals in podcasting and talk radio I really enjoyed listening to other than the great one Mark Levin, of course and Jean Hannity, was the great Dan Bongino. It was announced about an hour or so ago by President Trump that Dan Bongino has agreed to join him as deputy director of the FBI under a course Cash Patel, both those are friends. I knew that Dan spent about ten or twelve years in the Secret Service. He spent about ten years in the New York Police Department, also
a close friend of Cash. Patel just confirmed to sworn in I think on Thursday or Friday, and he's going to be number two at the FBI. So imagine where we were a couple months, a couple of three months ago with Christopher Ray heading up the FBI, admittedly filing false affidavis with the Pviza court, green lighting lies about the so called Russian collusion delusion and also the Hunter Biden laptop, all that stuff, and now in charge of the FBI, it's Cash battel and I think Jay Egor
Hoover would be rolling over in his grave. And also Dan Bongino will be appointed deputy director. And stories don't indicate whether he must be confirmed by the Senate, but I think he probably does. And this is the latest sign that Trump has committed to cleaning house at the FBI that needs it badly. And he'll report directly to Pam Bondi Director of National Intelligence Telsea Gabbert, of course through Cash. Pttel who will be now is the head of the FBI. And Patel had experiences in a lawyer,
high ranking official. Bongino has practical law enforcement experience, former Secret Service and Secret Service, former police officer and an agent. In fact, I see a lot of video of Dan Bongino protecting Barack Hussein Obama, and I have people like this in charge of the FBI, sending a message that the core mission must be returned to the rank and file of the FBI. It can't be a political organization as it's been for the past fifteen or twenty years.
And despite the protestations of sixty minutes in Scott Pelly tonight, the FBI the last ten to twenty years has been a political organization persecuting Republicans and giving Democrats free passes everywhere, most famously in twenty sixteen when James Comy kind of admitted that Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State and first Lady, committed numerous serious felonies, but of course no jury in Washington, d C. Would convict her because she's a woman and
she's a Democrat. I guess that's the standard, right. I don't think Dan Bongino and cash Pttel will be given to those standards. And so despite the arguments of sixty minutes tonight, the FBI is in better hands they've been in a while. And one thing that kind of irritates me is whenever a Republican does something, they are criticized many times on racial grounds or ecumenical grounds of one type or another. In this case, when I look at
the cabinet of Donald Trump, it is very diverse. Given no credit, I can't recall I googled this the compliments for the diversity of the Trump cabinet. Is there a story out there available to be told by other than Joy Reid, who's now out of MSNBC. By the way, Marco Rubio is the first Hispanic to head up our Foreign Service Secretary of State's office. Marco Rubio, who was
unanimously confirmed by the Senate. Hispanic. Susie Wiles Pat Summer Awl is the daughter is the presidential chief of Staff, the first female chief of staff in Washington, d C. History. The head of the Treasury is Scott Bissett. He's a multi billionaire, a friend of Donald Trump, but he's also gay. And normally when a person has professed as being a gay person, in the media's eyes, that's a compliment. But you'll never see any credit given to Donald Trump for
apporting Scott Bissett the Treasury. Or Rick Grenell been on my show several times. He's the envoy to get hostages freed in Venezuela and elsewhere, and he's going to head up the so called relief efforts in Pacific Palisades in California. And he's saying early on Rick Grnell is saying, Look, I may run, I may run for a governor. If Kamala Harris announces that she's going to run for governor because we can't take it anymore. Throw on top of
all that. Scott Turner, who's African American, great football player at HUD. Throw on top of that Bobby Kennedy Junior.
Are you kidding me?
Serving in a Republican administration Health and Human Services? You talk about a cabinet. Throw on top of that. Cash Betel, director of the FBI, and now Dan Bongino. It's the
it's fabulous, it's wonderful. Look at it. Throw on top of that Pete Hegseth that he's not Lloyd Austin, who needs to lose about one hundred pounds, who won a wall, Secretary of Defense, who was with Raytheon for years, cashed out his tickets as a four star, went to Raytheon a defense contractor, made millions and millions of dollars in this lobbyist, came back to become Secretary of Defense. Did the media cover it that way? I don't think so. Pete Hegseth got buyed by the skin of his teeth.
I think he was at fifty was it fifty to fifty to forty maybe fifty to forty eight. He just barely got through because of the vote of JD.
Vance.
So I kind of look at what's going on here, and I'm thinking this is fabulous. So the vote on Hegseth was fifty to fifty and then JD Vance broke it. It's a wonderful thing to watch a diverse, bright, intelligent committeed cabinet wanting to do the bidding of the elected president who won the parality of votes and he got seventy seven million votes. Donald Trump did seventy seven million.
And I still have my doubts about twenty twenty. How Joe Biden got eighty one million votes, which is sixteen million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama, which is four million more votes than Donald Trump got in this election. Somehow sleepy Joe got eighty one million votes. I have my doubts, but nonetheless, this is good news. Dan Bongino is leaving the world of talk. He's going to give up his podcast and his talk radio duties and he's going to go work for the president because he has
that calling. So for the fans of Dan Gino, it's a loss for the country. It is my view a great gain now page two. I sound like Paul Harvey, good day. And that is this that America's existence as a nation has been challenged once or twice in American history, and each time it was challenged, America went to war, unconditional war, unconditional surrender. The first time, you may think it was the War of eighteen twelve when the bridge
burned down, burned the Capitol in the White House. In fact, when I went to the I had some friendship with Nuke ingrig and he showed me the bloodstains on the marble steps of the Capitol in which individuals were defending the capitol against the burning of the capitol. But there was a sense even in eighteen fifteen that there was not going to be the taking over of America by the Brits. In eighteen sixty one, absolutely America went to a total war North versus the South. The South for Democrats,
and the Democrats wanted to secede from the Union. Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, said nah babanah, nah babanah, No, we'll go to war. So the South started the war by firing on Fort Sumter. It took about two years for Abe Lincoln to find Ulysses S. Grant, and it was total war, using all the armaments available in the eighteen sixties, resulting in six hundred thousand deaths minimum in the North and the South, and the Confederacy the Democrats were defeated, Slavery
was gone. Abraham Lincoln then was killed April the thirteenth of eighteen sixty five, and then President Johnson took over from Tennessee and the rest is history. But there was a chance that America would not exist if the Confederacy had won the war and they would have seceded from the Union. They would have tried to get the Western States to join their way of thinking. The country would have been on the wrong track in the country wouldn't
have existed. In nineteen forty one, America went to a total war, and it began, of course, with the attack on Pearl Harbor. But then for the next almost four years America had added We used every means in our method. We firebombed and carpet bomb the European cities and Japanese cities. They wanted war, and we gave it to them. And
at the end of the day. There was some thought that maybe in Japan we should not demand unconditional surrender, but that was quickly dispatched at that point by Harry S. Truman and said, no unconditional surrender, there are no terms. There was a time in Upomattox when General Lee, meeting with Ulysses, asked Grant wanted the terms of this surrender. What kind of terms would you like, Ulysses asked. Grant looked at him by the way from the state of Ohio,
and said, unconditional surrender. What do you mean? And there was no doubt that when the existence of the nation is at risk, the first thing that must do is have unconditional surrender. We win, you lose.
That's it.
I have a great fear tonight, this Sunday night, that Israel will not be frommitted to have a total victory over the forces of darkness and evil. We see with Hesbla Hamas the youthis and also what's happening in Iran. I have a sense that Boca Haram or Isis whatever it might be, could be dispatched quickly by the Israeli military. There's no explanation I think up to this point for Israel's behavior. If America's existence was at stake as a nation,
what would we do. We would fight like warrior poets. We would fire bomb and carpetbamb Americans foreign cities. We would call up twelve million more Army, Navy, Air Force personnel, and we would fight like warrior poets to save this country. Israel has been constrained for so long, not able to win the war. We have not won a war in a sense since nineteen forty five. Korea was a halfway deal. Vietnam was a loss, Iraq was a loss, Afghanistan was
a loss. We participate in wars, but we don't win them. In the case of Israel, they do not have a choice because their existence is at stake. What we did in Korea, what we did in Vietnam, what we did in Iraq, what we did in Afghanistan, the existence of our country was not at stake, so we pussy footed around and didn't win any of those wars. One might say Korea War was a halfway victory, and that's it. We had the power to destroy North Korea and to oppose our will on them, but we failed to do so,
and ever since then, that is the template. In Israel's case, They're in a completely different circumstance. Would you agree. When I spent time in Israel about two years ago, I saw a functioning Western style democracy. I saw churches in Jerusalem. I saw churches Catholic churches in Tel Aviv. I saw Muslim facilities all over the place. I saw Jewish ideations all over the place. I saw a country with about six million Jews and about four million others who aren't
Jews but live in peace in Israel. I saw border crossings in which every day twenty to thirty thousand Palestinians would go from Gaza or the West Bank into Israel to work in return. I saw it constantly. I saw functioning of functioning Western style democracy, with women and girls having rights, with educational facilities, with first class medical care, with a farming community second to none, and a high
tech industry that was growing. And I saw, because of the Abraham Accords, a nation ready to be accepted in the Middle East as a functioning democracy in which Palestinians live in peace inside Israel. How is it possible that about twenty percent of the Kanessant is governed by Arab Muslims, and that's the governing power inside Israel. That's the way they It is a Western style democracy. It's unfortunate that the fact of life is what Israel has been doing
up to this point will not win the war. In war, there is no substitute for victory. The existence of Israel is at stake. If the forces of evil in the Middle East had the same military power of Israel, and Israel had the power of Lebanon or Jordan or Egypt, guess what Israel would not exist. And right now someone's got to decide, maybe it's Netsan Yahu or others. We must win this war and do what is necessary to win. War is terrible, War is brutal. War is particularly unkind
to innocent men, women and children. It is awful. But as indicated about it four or five days ago, via those five bus bombs that were planned, no one got hurt because one of the Hamas terrorists put the wrong timing mechanism at nine pm instead of nine am. If it had gone off as intended, there would have been dozens or hundreds more Jews killed. This will go on and on and on until Hamas and has failed to exist, until Iran is on its back. There is no substitute
for victory except the unconditional surrender. Any military power on Earth that had just suffered the losses of Hesbla and a Moss at the hands of the IDF would say, at this point, we give in, we quit. Did you see the smiling faces of hundreds or a few thousand of a Moss and their supporters handing over the bodies of that proud mother eventually and then the two little babies that were brutally murdered at the hands of a
Moss literally using their hands. To me, it is unbelievable what happened to Israel and how restraint they have shown because until October, until the attack in October. On October seventh, twenty twenty three, it was the largest attack in Israel since nineteen forty eight, since that war. A little known fact, there were about four thousand rockets fired in the twenty one Jewish communities. There were hundreds of paragliders, well armed, hype up on drugs, who flew into twenty one different
Jewish communities. About six thousand Hamas attackers were involved, including thousands of Palestinians themselves living in gossip. There were about twenty one hundred Jews murdered and about two hundred and fifty hostages taken. Not just murdered, children were raped, babies were beheaded, women went through a living hell watching their husband and or children being burned at a steak. They
were tortured, extremities who were severed from bodies. Cheryl Sandberg, who was with the Facebook and Google, documented much of this and a documentary she did. It is truly unbelievable the brutality that Hamas showed toward the Jews in this contemptible, unprovoked attack that killed over two thousand Jews. The more Jews died in one day that since the Holocaust, and we just went through the commemoration of the opening the rescuing of thousands of Jews in Auschwitz a couple of
weeks ago. And when you're in a war for your survivability, the last thing you can do is be measured in your response. One can only imagine a nineteen forty five, say in February or March of nineteen forty five, if someone would have said FDR was on his last legs, then he died in April. I think April the twelfth, nineteen forty five, that why don't we sue for peace with Germany? This is getting too brutal. We're killing too
many civilians, they're killing Ourgis, we're killing theirs. How about doing a government in Munich or in Bond whatever, and we'll let Adolf Hitler or hers or his progenies they involved governing Germany. Would anyone even think about such a thought? Absolutely not if someone would have said, well, in Japan in nineteen July nineteen forty five, let's sue for peace. Let's not obliterate Japan. And we can't have that. Israel
must act as if there's survival is at stake. Fair to do so, We'll have terrible consequences as we continue. I'll have some setting up the rest of tonight's show. Once again, Israel must win this war by any means necessary. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I can only imagine that after cash Bettel was sworn in on Friday, that his first call was to his friend Dan Bongino
to join him as deputy director of the research. I've just went through quickly indicated it has not Senate confirmed. That means Dan Bongino can start work on Monday or so getting the FBI back under control. Despite the protestations of Scott Pelley at sixty minutes tonight, the FBI now will be under control. When it was not under control
for the last fifteen or twenty years. One couldnot have imagined an FBI doing its job by investigating the Catholic Knights of Columbus or telling those who go to a Latin mass or possible domestic terrorist, the Catholics that worship the God, the true God is somehow they're un American. I can't imagine the FBI for years telling parents the school board meetings, don't voice your opinion, We're going to
investigate you. A good FBI agent would have said, look that the Russian collusion delusion is a farce and it's a joke, and we know it's a joke, and we're not going to pursue that one. They would not submit false affidavits to affisee a court, for example. That's all the FBI has done at the top level, not at the rank and file, of course in cities like Cincinnati or Detroit or Miami, but at the FBI, the high level.
It's a terrible circumstance, and Scott Pelley should be told that what he's seeking to have Donald Trump not do has already been.
Done by the Democrats. Let's continue with more. Go Cunningham with you every Sunday.
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I love it.
I know he's in a good place when sixty minutes attacks him. But nonetheless, Scott Powell is with the Discovery Institute. He's also a member of the Committee on the President Danger China and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. His timeless book was Rediscovering America, the number one Amazon
bestseller for about eight weeks. And of course last week was President's Day, and I watched some of the media going crazy, thinking, you know, what what we ought to do is get rid of President's Day because we might might be honoring Donald Trump, and which is not exactly the case. And Scott Powell, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, your colin, which is at townhall dot com, is a great one. And this
one talks about the President's Day, et cetera. And it says, among other things, that reflections on Washington, Lincoln, and Trump on President's Day. And you link Trump with George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, I would say Ronald Reagan. His portrait is with the President over his left shoulder. Tell me why you write such things about Donald Trump?
Well, Uh, each is very different, and but there are qualities of character that linked these three people.
And and there.
The three things that I think are important are faith, courage, and persistence. And of course you know Washington, Uh was shot at in the French and Indian Warrior had four bullet holes through his uniform. But a bullet didn't didn't even put a scratch in his body.
Uh, And that.
Gave that that that changed him.
You know, he knew that it was protected by God, and that gave him great courage. Trump's same story. He knows that it was God's protection that prevented him from being assassinated in Butler, Pennsylvania.
That that and he's a changed man. And uh, he has incredible courage.
And and then the third quality that both these people have as persistence.
They just don't stop. They never give up.
I mean, you know, we were outgunned, out maneuvered, outfunded, out trained in the War of Independence against the greatest military power in the world, that's Great Britain. But how did we win. Well, we lost more battles than we won, you know, George Washington lost more than he won. But in the end, we defeated them at Yorktown. And they thought, after six years, you know, we can't beat these people. They're never going to give up, and so they just they built it. You know, it's done.
To surrender. We'll call it a day.
So one of the things you say in your column, which I think is beautiful, is that Washington and Lincoln agreed that America's greatest threat to national survival would come from within rather than some military invasion. And when jd Vance about ten days ago at the Munich Security Conference, and I think Germany is now turning to conservatism again. But nonetheless he said to the Germans what had to be said about Germany from within, not from without America.
It applies so starkly that when I watch what's happening in our major cities. I look at what was going on on the southern border, the northern border. I look at our trade deficit with China was a trillion dollars a year. I can't have faed them a trillion dollars. I look at perhaps entities taking away the US dollar as a reserve currency, and I look at all that, and I'm thinking, my God, were we in trouble? And I think, as God's representative on Earth is United States
of America. And if we fall, no one's going to be left to pick us up. No one's going to come to our assistance. That were the one indispensable power. So what is it about Donald Trump that makes you say that he recognizes the enemy is from within?
Well, that was his experience.
I mean, I think when he was elected in twenty sixteen, the first time, I think, you know, he'd come from business, he really didn't understand the dark side of politics so well.
He was always a good deal maker.
He could get he could get along with the opposition in his in his private life in business.
But boy, when he uh, when when he had.
Uh was elected to be president of the United States, people that he thought were going to cooperate and help him be his friends betrayed him. And uh, he had a you know, he he had a very tough four years. And what's so interesting. One thing that I say in that article that I think you know, many others missed was that was there was a bigger thing about God's intervention in American life, uh, that that Trump is associated with.
You know, Trump felt very strongly that he was that that the voting irregular, the vote fraud prevented him from getting uh, you know, getting a second term. That he he won the election, but it was denied him because of vote fraud, and he was determined to turn that around.
He asked people to come to Washington on January sixth, and you know and make their voices be known that if there were questionable electors, if the electoral College vote wasn't you know they didn't sit right in about sixteen station knows there were sixteen states that had questions, and that they should send it back to the state and then do a forensic type audit. But in any case, he was fighting to have his second term. But you
know what God said. God knew that it would be better if he was denied a second term, and that he reflect on his first term. He learned the terran he learned more about the enemy, and then American people would also be subject to a horrible Biden administration, deep state administration. And so it was that he had a second term he skipped and his and look how successful
his his leadership is now. It's remarkable if he had if he'd had a consecutive term, he would not have accomplished what he's accomplished now.
He had to go through a forging, a foundry process in which he became harder than blue steel. And if he were to roll it into his second term, it would have been like, well, h every day that passed, what would be the end of him? But now I have a sense the whole city's energized. Washington, d C. Is energized to do something great, whether it's Scott Bissett or Scott Turner or Marco Rubio, as Susie Wiles or
Rick Granell. And I have a sense, Pete Hegseth that whole crew would not have been available if he would have won the second term when he did, when he lost it, it would have been completely different. So when you say God's hand, when I say God's representative on Earth, the United States of America, he can see the future of the president of the past. He knows what's going to happen, and he allowed this to transpire. So Donald Trump would be hardened by the enemies and freedom of liberty.
And right now we have a warrior in the White House that would not have been there in twenty twenty one.
That's right, That's that's the point I made though. But see, but Trump was fighting for it, he wanted it, he wanted it, but the hidden hand of Gods that nope, nope.
It's not right. You're going to have it your second term.
But you're gonna, we're gonna, we're going to give you four years to prepare and we're going to get the American people to have four years of suffering so that the that the vote for you is overwhelming.
Let me share with your permission.
You and I texted about two or three days ago, and I texted you the word boot it instead of book it. And we set up the interview and then I said, okay, boot it, and then I said book it. And then you say this to me, Well, I kind of liked your instructions to boot it. Boot corruption out of the US government, Boot the global cabal, Boot the deep state democrats, Boot the illegal aliens, Boot eighty percent
out of the federal government. Boot the CCP China out of Panama, and boot them out of the Western hemisphere. Boot the Chinese out of US farmland, Boot the UN out of New York.
And that's just a start. So explain.
And I read that and I said, that's a pretty good starting point for the interview. Boot corruption. I look at the US eight I guess as an example. Yes, it's one percent or less than the budget, but it's in place to hide certain democratic individuals. And secondly, it spreads this virus that transgenderism around the world. So why is it important to eliminate USA it except for those
programs like having African kids not get polio. Absolutely, if someone is suffering from HIV somewhere, okay, but that's not what USA does.
And what's happening now is unbelievable.
Explain when you say boot the corruption, can you identify all the corruption or just some of it?
Oh? There is so much. There is so much corruption. Really have at least three sort of a nexus of corruption. We have the military industrial complex, We have the medical pharmaceutical industrial complex, and then we have the the media high tech information complex.
And there are others, but those are those are.
Three that have really, you know, corrupted the proper functioning of our governments. And it's really and it's denied the American people, you know, the information that they've needed to understand what's going on.
And we live in the information age.
And I guess this week or next Pete Hexsa's going to take a chainsaw to much of the US military, which is full of fat and flab. And I think you spend nine hundred billion dollars in the military, You would have thought Republicans would hold the military sank or sank as we do. But that does is does not mean that we need seven hundred and fifty military bases in one hundred and fifty different countries all over the world.
We don't need that. In other words, it needs to be lethal, it doesn't need to need to be bureaucratic. I think that's the points hech Seth is making.
Yeah.
Absolutely, I mean, what a change we've gone from Lloyd Austin fat Lloyd Austin that couldn't even do a push up to Pete Hayfath, which is out there in the parking lot of the Pentagon going through disguise's I mean incredible change. And he's you know, he has the experience, frontline experience, many many years of serving on the front line. You couldn't ask for a better of secret fary of events. And he's really a wonderful man. I've met him personally.
He is he has all the qualities that are going to enable the military to really turn itself around.
Under his leadership. I think the military will be very strong.
What we now knew, our tax money has been looted, stolen and wasted. Politicians go in they make no more than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year, and after spending half their money in taxes and half that money and living in two different places. Nancy Pelosi comes out with three hundred million dollars. Mitch McConnell, who's lost his way completely, is now worth a one hundred million dollars.
You have all these individuals that are basically living in two expensive places coming out of public service with hundreds of millions of dollars. We've been looted, stolen, and wasted, and the President's going to go after the irs. I love the idea of the External Revenue Service to find out where the money is owed to us. All over the world owes us money. But secondly, you have a
great interest in CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. Unlike the USSR of old, they were supposedly a great military power, but not an economic power. Why do you say, why do you belong to a committee to kind of constrain the Chinese Communist Party? Why are they the most dominant force ever to confront of America.
Well, they have amped up the communist strategy way beyond what the what the Soviets had. You know, they believe in unrestricted warfare, and they have recognized and and of course China has a heritage that goes back to the Sun Sue. I think he lived, I don't know, more than two thousand years ago. Sun Su the military philosopher, said that the acme of military success is winning, you know, is winning the war, winning the battle without firing a shot.
So the Chinese have really mastered this sort of cultural penetration and elite capture where they capture elites and they use you know, primarily its money. Of course, they have a lot of dollars to throw around. They have an annual budget of fifteen billion dollars. That is that that is used to target America and to carry out subversive activities. And many of these things are done sort of subliminally. People don't understand that the Chinese.
Are our mortal enemy.
And you know, they've created these Confucian institutes on campuses across the country. They're more Chinese students in America than any other nation by a factor of three anyway, and you know, they they they're just masters at at at at the cultural revolution. Of course, we know that that's what Mao did, but they have refined it and perfected it to such a point that Americans are are you know, are don't they don't understand really what's what's what's going on?
And Scott when you look at their malware. Christopher Ray, the old director of the FBI, said about eight months ago that they have malware and every critical American utility, every phone system, every water system, and they test it out now and then to make sure it works and
collapse systems. He made the point that if they have complete absolute war against US, we couldn't fly planes, we couldn't land planes, we couldn't make telephone calls, we would not have electricity, we would not have water, and within three days America would be in total chaos where there's no communication, and they can fly hot air balloons over the top of the country. They can send tens of
thousands of students into our colleges and universities. They can buy millions of acres of farmland around US military bases and put malware all over the place so that we can't function. The average Americans got powered, doesn't understand the truth of what communists read China wants to do to us. Imagine a world without electricity, without sewer system, without water, without the ability to communicate. Imagine that world, and that's what China's planned for us.
It is true, it is true, and I think that Trump understands this, and I think behind the scenes there's going to be a de engineering on a lot of this. And I would just I would love to see the new Secretary of Agriculture stand up and say, you know, we can't buy farmland in China. We're going to give you your money back. We're taking back all the land that was sold to you. Would give you what you paid for it, but you've got to pack your bags
and leave. You know, you're not welcome to have farmland in America.
We need our farm land every year.
It's about a trillion dollars of a trade surplus they get from America. And so they're crying like a stuck pig when America says we're going to use the same tariffs on you China that you use on our products. Same thing in the heartland of Germany, the heartland of Europe, the same You don't see forge and Chevyes on the roads all over Germany, but you do see Volkswagens and BMW's and Mercedes here. And what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And I think that makes
perfect sense. Well, we got to run. Scott Powell, thanks for coming on. And President's Day is going to remain for a long time. And the fact that Donald Trump is our president now as a matter of celebration, not regret. And Scott Powell, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Scott you're a great American. Thank you, Thank you, Bill, thank you. Let's do it again. Let's continue with more. Imagine hot air balloons flying over
red China. I wonder if we have our ability to do to them what they do to us. I strongly suspect that we do not, because we don't have tens of thousands of American students in their elite universities. That doesn't happen, but the opposite does, and that's not a good thing. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham The Great American with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. I
love hearing from Scott Powelly his perspective on things. I know the left was angry about President's Day last week because Donald Trump didn't deserve his own day.
And the drum beat is there right now.
Sixty minutes earlier tonight, Two of the three hit pieces were against Donald Trump, that somehow the Department of Justice under Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama were paragons of virtue only prosecuting crime, when what they did was turn a blind eye completely to democratic felonies like by Hillary Clinton, or by Joe Biden himself, or by Bill Clinton, etc. And they went after Donald Trump to keep him out of office. What they fear that Donald Trump might do
is exactly what they've already done. On another point, to have Scott Powell on to talk about what's happening, as you know, in communist China, it is really unbelievable that we have had a policy of welcoming into this country every Chinese export with little or no tariffs, when our products can't be sold in Beijing, when their students are taught at our elite universities, and guess what the opposite is not true, when we can't buy their land, but
they buy hours around military basis. And the most scary thought is there have the capability of shutting down through malware our electrical grid, our cell phones, our sewer systems, our merchants, et cetera.
Through the Internet. That is a serious serious problem.
Would you agree that I like to know whether or not we have similar capabilities against the against the Red Chinese.
I have my doubts.
So we finally have a president that will stand up to Jijiao Ping and say not on my watch. Let's continue with more. Thanks for listening, continue to follow what's going to happen this week? Bill cunning in the Great American with you and all of the great Americans.
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Let's continue now. I'll tell you what.
One of the world renowned, world recognize experts on guns and violence is John Lott. He spent many years in the Trump administration in the first term, written many books on the subject, and in addition of being a Great American, and he also runs crimeresearch dot org. And one thing we spoke briefly off the air about it. Things are now better than when we thought they would be, much better than we thought they would be after the first
month of the Trump presidency. The FBI does not just have a transparency problem, they're actually distorting data to secure important crime statistics. The truth will set us all free. And John Lott, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, and we just briefly off the air we discussed year years with the Department of Justice in the first Trump term, for which he wasn't really prepared to govern in a
sense because he relied upon others for key positions. I think he was shocked when he won, and this time he's not shocked at all. And in fact, in an odd way, the last four years putting him through hell, what was even hardening his resolve to get things done but relate to the American people. What you told me off the air about the leadership of DOJ and the leadership of the Department of Education and the first Trump term and how it's so much better today, right, Well.
I mean.
Trump relied on people, you know, other Republicans like the Bushes, to go and help staff parts of the government.
You know, if you have somebody who's.
A governor who ends up being president, they're going to take you know, like the California Mafia or the Georgia mafia that they have there, you know, people that they've been working with that they've kind of seen, you know,
actually operate government. Trump didn't have that. He had a very small campaign staff in twenty sixteen, he didn't have, so he relied on them, and it turned out to be a mistake because the people that the Bushes suggested, George W. Bush for the Department of Justice and Jeb Bush for the Department of Education, hated Trump. I mean I personally ran into people in the Department of Justice
who were political pointings. I mean it was bad enough you have to deal with the civil service that just hates publicans, but Trump had to deal with all these political point pointies who just hated him and would do whatever they could to make his life difficult. It's amazing, you know, he could even accomplish half of what he did, but he obviously accomplished was more. But this time he's learned his lesson and the quality of people that he's
put in there is much higher. And that makes a huge difference.
Of course, because he can only do so much, and it's the first time he was shocked that he won, so he relied upon the Bush He's a serious mistake to staff the Department of Justice. I can rot it off some of the names who running the FBI, etc. The Department of Education, it was all Bushy's either Jeb Bush or Bush forty one Bush forty three that told him that this guy'd be good, Rod, that that guy'd be good in a way. You go, and he never and then immediately he's impeached as soon as he gets
into office. Even now he's only been in office a month, our Democrats are still talking about impeachment. But let's get onto the substance of your story, which is at the Federalist. It's a great read, and it talks about the headline is Trump's FBI reforms need to include ending its data distortions on crime.
Please explain.
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people kind of understand the political biases in the Department of Justice and the FBI, as well as other agencies that are there. You know, in the FBI you have things like going after Catholics, or going after people who attended school board meetings, or you have, you know, spying on a presidential campaign for the opposing party in twenty sixteen. You know, you have lots of political biases there that have to.
Be dealt with.
But what hasn't really been talked about by the political biases involved in just the data. You let people on the left control the data that gets put out. You allow them to control the political debate. And we saw this during the presidential campaign this last year. You know, one of the headlines that we saw over and over again for the media was that crime is down, but
people mistakenly think that it was increasing. And a lot of that was based on the data for twenty twenty two that had come out, came out in October twenty twenty three, and so for a year we had headlines on that. The problem was that this past September, when the FBI put out it's data for twenty twenty three, it secretly quietly changed the data for twenty twenty two, no mention of it in the press release that.
They put out.
If you read the report that came out in the fall, all it said was we've in a footnote one sentence said we've updated the data for twenty twenty two. But what they had done was originally they said it had fallen by two point one percent, and now with the revision, it had gone up by four point five percent.
That's a pretty big swing.
And you would think given all the media coverage, you know, David Muir in the presidential debate where he was quote, you know, fact checking the president there on that he was relying. The only final data that was out at that point was the data for twenty twenty two, and you know, it turns out that it was wrong. But the FBI didn't, you know, acknowledge that they had changed it, didn't explain why that they had changed it.
And even once it kind.
Of became viral that they had made this change, and the mediate news media.
Organizations would reach out.
To the FBI before the election to try to, you know, get them to make a definitive statement themselves on it. They refused to do so. The only thing that they would say is we stand by our data and just leave it vague and not explain the change or even officially acknowledged that it had gone from a drop to an increase.
But you know, it's just one of many things they.
Put out reports all the time. And it's not just the Department of that's the FBI. You have issues with the Bureau of Justice Statistics, you have issues with the Senates for Disease Control, and you know, Cash Petel is going to have a huge job there at the FBI.
Yeah, I read according to other outlets, there was more than five hundred times five hundred times, the mainstream media and the two months running up to the election that said crime is down. In fact, you you excerpted in your column at the Federalists from NPR, which surely has to be defunded. Quote this is NPR that we're paying five hundred million dollars to get factual information from. Quote violent crime is dropping fast in the US, even if
Americans don't believe it. And then you have that back and forth with David Mure when President Trump during the presidential campaign said quote crime here is up and through the roof, despite fraudulent statements that they made. Then David Muir, who's that face, the voice of ABC News, said, quote, mister President, you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country quote unquote. Then
let's move on. And so they threw into the middle of the body politic poison, acidic water based upon false, fraudulent data that the FBI, Christopher Ray knew it was false when he put it out, failed to correct it for political purposes. And that's one of the examples of the political politicalization of the FBI, because they would report only information that was good for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
and I think that's illustrative. And then you go on to talk to statistics and the facts, and so I guess it's a pejorative question. But when you hear five hundred times and then during the Great Debate with David Muir the crime is down, crime is down, do you think some Americans took that in as factually accurate and voted based thereon and voted for Kamala Harris.
I have no doubt that that was the case.
I mean, there was presumably a reason that the Democrats and the media kept on pushing this claim.
But look, you know.
It's even worse than that, because there are two measures that the Department of Justice has on crime. One is the FBI data on crimes report to police. But we know most crimes aren't report to police. Only about forty percent of violent crimes and only about thirty percent of property.
Crimes are reported.
And so over fifty years ago, the Department of Justice set up something called the National Crime Victimization Survey by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which gets a measure of total crime from this truly massive two hundred and forty thousand person.
Survey that they do each year.
And what you find is that during the Biden administration, we had the largest percentage increase over the three years that the data's out for that we've ever seen during the fifty years that they've been putting the stay together. During there's been a fifty four percent increase in violent crime during the first three years of the Biden ministry, forty three percent increase in rates, a sixty three percent increase and robberies, and a four percent increase in egg
beata assaults. That's more than twice as large as the next previous increase over the previous fifty years. But the media just ignored that, even though if you're going to ask people, would you rather get a measure of total crime or would you rather get a measure of crimes who poured to police? There are lots of reasons, and you and I talked about it before about why not all crimes are report to police and why that can
change over time. But the media not only did they fixate on numbers that turned out to be wrong from the FBI, but they ignored other data that would have shown a very different story there.
Why what what's the motivation to lie to the American people, And I would assume that David Mures and others knew they were lying when they did it, or did they not know and simply not look below the covers to find what's underneath. Because arrest may be down, but crime itself is way up when seventy percent of property crimes are not reported to the police. Who can't arrest someone with a non report unless the crime is committed in
some officer's presence, which is quite unusual. So what's the motivation of the media to lie, especially in pr.
Look, I mean, I can't get into people's minds on this. What I can say is I had an opt ed in the Wall Street Journal in April. You would think, you know, that would have at least alerted. I mean, that's the biggest newspaper in the country. You would think that at least some people would have noticed that discussion at that time.
And another point in your column in the Federalist dot Com John Lott is that the FBI isn't the only
agency that hides or dissorts data for political purposes. The Centers for Disease Control under Joe Biden suppressed that of proving that armed citizens help Prevent Crime by removing its estimates that the defensive gun uses from its website because I can only assume it didn't fit the media die tribe, and I would think the Centers for Disease Control would have little or nothing to do with defensive gun use,
but the federal government indicates that they do. And you reference the fact that the National Academies of Science reported in twenty thirteen, which was less violent time in our history, that people use guns to stop crime anywhere between sixty four thousand to three million times a year. Is there something more current than the twenty thirteen estimate. We're twelve years later, and what evidence is there that those armed citizens actually stopped crime? Right?
Well, either are a couple of things in there. One is the reason why the Centers for Disease Control removed it from their website is because different gun control groups during the Biden administration essentially lobbied and talked to the Centers for Disease Control it to be hess to the Biden administration.
And I quote one.
Of them there, the Gun Violence Archive, which is a well known gun control group that the media uses.
All the time.
They were saying that, well, if you put that out on your website. It's been making it more difficult for us to push for the types of gun control laws that we want. Is if somehow that's a legitimate thing that the Centers for disease control should be considering and determining whether or not information is put out there or not. But yeah, there is more recent information on this.
You have.
For example, there was a study put out in twenty twenty one that indicate there was about one point six million defensive gun uses that occurred. You have to understand the reason for the large range is that you have government data from the Bureau of Justice assystems, which basically puts it in the range of about one hundred thousand, and then you have other academic surveys that put it much higher. And the reason is very simple, and that
is what's the three screening question that's used. And and the Bureau of Justice statistics what they say it they ask you, have you been a victim of crime? And the problem is is that a lot of people who maybe use the gun defensively stop the crime before it occurred, so they may not view themselves as having become a victim. And if they say they were not a victim. Then they don't ask any more questions than the survey there.
The academic surveys will ask things like, you know, have you been threatened with violence with somebody that you have been been threatened with violence? And that's and when you ask that type of question, you get a much higher rate of people that you then go and ask whether you know how they behave, what the criminal did, and and other things that go on there, and you get it much. You get an estimate that's usually average around two million a counch of gun news is the year, and.
So the long and the short is we look forward.
It's only been about a month, but we look forward to crime data coming out of the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control that are actually accurate and actually reflect reality, not for political purposes one way or another. I think a rest are down, but I think crime is way up. Liberal prosecutors in many blue cities and blue states don't want to prosecute crimes because it looks bad. I live in the little city of Cincinnati, and I'm being told repeatedly that crime is down in the city
of Cincinnati, but I don't believe it. I think a rest are down. We have a lot of liberal judges here like in major American cities, and those liberal judges do not hold people accountable. In fact, to get out on bond on a serious, serious felony is not that big a deal. Ten years ago you couldn't get out. It was good time that you would have applied. It's your sentence. But that's completely different. Well, John Lotte, we
got to run once again. We began by talking about how Bush was sandbagged and his first four years, and I think, in an odd way, the hell that he went through the last four years harden him in the steel to make sure the next four years are going to be significantly better, significantly different than the first four years of the of the term, because when you put Bush people in charge of the Department of Justice and
the Department of Education, that's not a good situation. Now he knows what he's doing, got great people involved, cash, PTTEL is going to do great work with the FBI, et cetera. And once again it's Crimeresearch Dot Org. I have it up right now. Many columns are up about concealed carry permit holders and defensive uses things of that character, and someone listening needs the actual facts on this it's crimeresearch dot org and John Lott. We have a lot
to talk about. I think things are getting better. And once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and my friend will do it again.
Thank you very much.
Thank you Bill. You make a big difference, so do you.
Thank you John. All right, let's continue with more.
Of course, he spent years in the Trump administration and now he's out doing research of things in that character about concealed handgun permit holders and the value they have the law enforcement. Let's continue with more. Bill cunning Him the Great American with you and all other great Americans every Sunday Night by Bully cunning Him the Great American and the good to hear from John on. You know one thing he just pointed out. This guy's got crimeresearch dot org.
This guy's an academician, he's a scholar, he's an author. He knows where the bodies are buried. How about the fact that in America today, seventy percent of property crimes are not reported to the police because the victim doesn't feel as if it makes any difference to whether I report the thing or not. Nothing's going to happen how's
that possible? If your car is broken into, if something is stolen for a person's stolen in them all, or maybe at a Publix or a Kroger or whatever, shouldn't you have the confidence, Okay, I'm going to call the police. I'm going to file a police report, and I'm going to see what happened. But if we have so little confidence and prosecutions of wrongdoors, why call the police in the first place. The only crime that really can say, okay, we know what happened here was a murder or a suicide.
You know you got a body and rape victims. You know there was a rape take place. But if you talk about so many property crimes, we don't know what the hell happened because we have no confidence, especially in blue cities and blue states like in Chicago or Los Angeles or New York City.
Why in the world.
Would you ever call the police in a property crime when you know a CoP's not likely to arrive, or secondly, when they do come, the person who did that is going to be out of jail before the paperwork is done.
Unbelievable.
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By Billy cunning and the Great America. Of course, Steve Gorm's an expert on the environment. In the climate, he's a public speaker and executive director of the Climate Science Coalition, advisor to the Heartland Institute, written many books on the subject matter, including The Green Breakdown, The Green Breakdown, The Coming Renewable Energy Failure, and Steve Gorm welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I would note I wanted to maybe to tell the American people what are the Trump energy policies now, which fundamentally you've advocated for a long time. But tell the American people, in case they're not paying close attention, what are the Trump energy policies?
As I speak?
Hey, Bill, great to join you again. Yeah.
The President Trump's administration in the first month has basically dropped a bomb on green energy. It really is remarkable what's going on. Four big areas, and these were done with executive orders, but he's trying to follow these up with congressional action. The first is he has canceled all
offshore wind turbine licenses. The federal government owns all the land between three miles and two miles off shore, and if you want to put up a wind turbine, you have to get a license, and mister Trump has now stopped issuing those. And he's also instructed the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Burgham, to review any licenses that have been granted. And so we had a big, big changes
right off the bat. For example, Denmark Orsted, a big supplier of wind turbines, stock price dropped seventeen percent right after the executive order. It took a one point seven billion dollar charge. We've seen a bunch of other firms that the stock price has gone down and they've had charges as well. The second big area is that is
rolling back of electric vehicle incentives. And he used an executive called Unleashing American Energy, which basically says, I'm going to get rid of all the incentives for evs and that includes the tax credits. And we're already seeing some of this in the markets. The a lot of dealers are saying, well, they're not going to issue the tax credits. Congress is trying to pass as something that will remove it.
This was in the Inflation Reduction Act. And then he's also doing a bunch of other things about getting rid of subsidies and favorable for electric vehicles. And it was just announced the General Services Administration GSA is going to
shut down eight thousand EV chargers nationwide. They, by the way, nobody is making money with EV chargers and not a single firm that can break even an EV charger, and so without all these subsidies, we wouldn't have all these things, and the federal government's going to start shutting these down. The third big area is the cuts to renewable funding, and those are coming from all sorts of grants from the EPA, and also was also in the Inflation Reduction Act.
They're trying to get rid of all those, so that's another big deal. And then the last big area is he has really made big changes to climate policy already and one executiveority was putting America first in the international environmental agreements. So he is withdrawing from the Paris Climate of Courts, He's terminating the Green New Deal, which representive Pacossium Courts has talked about quite a few years ago.
And then he's also even instructed Lee Zelden, our new head of the EPA, to look at the Endangerment finding of two thousand and nine, in which the EPA December seven, two thousand and nine, a day that will live in infamy. The EPA declared carbon dioxide I said it endangers of the health and welfare of current and future generation. So wow,
those are all really really big effects. And oh, by the way, there's a whole bunch of climate departments and they are just canceling those throughout the government right now. All these things that were set up to work with the client on the climates he's getting rid of them, so just massive changes, you.
Know, Steve Gorm I'm not in favor of EV's, I'm not against them. I think it's a matter of choice. If you want, knowing everything you know about EV's, if you want to buy a Tesla or buy a Ford EV as an American, have at it. It might make sense if you're in an urban area. It's second or third car, it's expensive, hard to repair, it's insurance rates are higher. But if you look at all that and you want to make some political or cultural statement, I want to buy an EV, that's fine, but damn it,
I don't want to subsidize it. To give you an example, about two or three weeks ago, run the middle of middle end of January, Ford Motor Company guy's name is James Farley, the CEO announced that they lost in the year twenty twenty four five point two billion dollars on their EV production and made about five point six billion on gasoline powered cars, so it was more or less an offset, and he said in twenty twenty five, we're
going to lose more money than that. He had to warn the market that they geared up for this thing, and that dog won't hunt. And on top of that, Nicola and Assar Rivian, which are explained, what's happening with government subsidies money right down the tubes like Celindra, right down the tubes. What's happening to those two companies.
Yeah, so we've got you know, we have a whole industries that are that live on government money. Now, these are EV charging companies. A lot of the evs with the text credits green hydrogen, carbon dioxide, pipelines.
Wind solar, all of these things.
But nevertheless, so as I think we've discussed before, a green equipment companies are very very poor investments. An example is Nicola, which is electric truck manufacturer. They filed for bankruptcy last week. They had been valued when they did an initial public offering at thirty billion dollars and they've never made any money. And another one is a company called Rivian Automotive, and in December, the biot And Administration approved a six point six billion dollar loan to Rivian
to build a plant in Georgia. Just you know, talk if you think Solendra was a big issue, this is about ten times as big.
Rivian has never.
Made any money. Last year, I think they had a revenue of four hundred million and had losses of about four hundred million. I mean, it's just and we're just going to have an endless round of bankruptcies here with all of these firms. Another one is plug Power. Plug Power to a company that produces hydrogen or green hydrogen.
They were founded about nineteen ninety eight. They have never made a profit in twenty seven years, and they just keep getting money from states and federals and other You know, we have just all these industries that are just living on all this federal money, and mister Trump is putting a stop to all of this.
Any idea, can you, Steve Goren put a number on the green energy breakdown? What's happened in this country? And I think communist Red China is involved in this too, because they sold us ninety five percent of our solar panels. And I saw in Arizona so many of the solar panels that was one hundred acres of solar panels that were pitted because of a terrible storm that came and that it blew them out. And somehow it's unbelievable how much money, any idea, how much this boondoggle has cost
not the investors. If you wanted to invest in Nicola or Rivion or or a plug Power, if you want to invest in companies to build eight thousand EV power stations around America that I think about ten, we're not ten, about ten we're ever built. Have added your money. But how much public money are we talking about over the last ten to fifteen years beginning with Obama.
Well a lot Globally it's about about two trillion dollars last year was spent unrenewables, and it's been it's been very, very big, and over the last ten years have been about six or seven trillion unrenewables. We still get eighty percent of our energy from coal, oil, and natural gas, so it's really not having much of an impact globally. And again, the subsidies are just massive now. They're running
about under Biden. The last year, I think they got up to eighty billion dollars in subsidies in terms of tax breaks, tax credits, other things. And so we have all these companies that are just are just living on this, and we're going to have this is a lot of this is going to just crash here. And I would advise people that this green breakdown is coming, as I said in my book The Coming Renewable Energy Failure, which came out last year, and we're starting to see it.
This is going to take a long long time because much of the world is invested in this energy transition. But all green energy really means is higher energy prices. It means electricity blackouts, means less freedom because they're trying to force people to buy electric cars and get rid of their gas stoves. It means energy shocks across the world like we saw in Europe, and it isn't going
to have a measurable effect on global temperatures. There's no evidence that that is going to occur, So we're going to have a mixed future. I think evs are going to get better and better over time, but they're a long long way from becoming our main source of transportation.
Had a guest on a few weeks ago that talked about in nineteen ninety we were told the kids were told that by the time twenty twenty five rolls around, no child in America will see snow, that ice and snow will be gone, That the economy is going to be the world's going to be heated up and on the twenty twenty five. It's been a terrible year in the Midwest. It's not good at all, in fact throughout the South, and I think New Orleans had some snow just before the Super Bowl. And you also have a
column you wrote in November. The headline is scientists have not saved the ozone layer, and this is another scare tactic employed by environmental extremists to frighten us into public policy based upon the wrong decisions. When you wrote this, explain why the ozone layer. We were told for years that if the ozone layer went away, would all be fried. But nonetheless it didn't happen. This is ten years ago, predicted Tell us what NASA predicted ten years ago.
Yeah, well, this is way back about about nineteen seventy eight. I think the nations of the world assigned a agreement to try and get rid of all the chlorofluoro carbons that our industry was producing.
These were.
The things that we're going into aerosols and other sorts of things. A bunch of scientists said that these these were going up in the atmosphere, they were sending the ozone layer, and they were the ozone hole over the Antarctic, and so the world is signed and I can't remember the name of the agreements here, the Montreal Protocol. They signed the Montreal Protocol, and they shut down producing these things. They went they went to zero by two thousand. Yet
those on holes still up there. Every year NaSTA measures it. It's been twenty years now since all the floral chlorocarbons were gone and signed. Is saying, well, I was going to take another two or three decades before we see in effect. But you know, this is just another example where scientists were wrong. The whole world marched in one direction. And it's very similar to the fears about man made
global warming. You know, we've had a pretty cool winner this year and might we might have some global cooling coming up. What we need to do is reduce real poloe. We need to give people choice to produce, to allow them to buy evs or whatever they want to buy, and quit having the government impose all this stuff. And that's what mister Trump is going to do here. We're turning this over in the United States and we may see.
This go worldwide.
We had just elections in Germany today or yesterday Europe, and the Conservatives and the people that don't like the climate agenda are gaining position.
And I think they only got like the Conservatives got like twenty eight percent of the vote, which over there is a big number. And the course they're on is impossible to continue. And I think many Germans and Brits feel like you and I may feel. Number one, we have a terrible budget debt and deficit to thirty six trillion. Number two, we had until about a month and a half ago, open borders. And number three, we have to
exploit the energy resources in America. I'm told that Germany has lots of natural gas and coal, but they can't use it because of climate extremism, and they have to buy a lot of it from Russia or from US. And then Biden shuts down the LNG portals out of New Orleans so that we couldn't transport it to them.
And that's all.
Do you have a sense that a long time ago, the long and the Steve Gorms, the Bill Cunningham's, the Sean Hannity's, the Joe Pegs, at some point it's sunk into the minds of the American people that we can't continue in this course and be great Americans.
Do you have a sense this is a breaking point.
Well, I sure hope.
So.
I think this is the start of the rollback and the green initiatives and hopefully toward greater freedom. We had that last election, and while mister Trump has been exceeding everybody's expectations. Here, we'll just have to see how the
economy reacts and how the world reacts. But I'm optimistic we can get back to free markets, we can get back to choice, and get back to things that are sensible rather than a government mandate and government government directed policies in so many areas trying to tell.
Everybody what to do.
I hope Ford Motor Companies learn its lesson. I hope the investors of Nicola and Rivian and also Plug Powers learned its lesson. And the money we're saving out of Doze is truly unbelievable. They want to stigmatize Elon Musk. He operates under the power of the president. He can do nothing without Donald Trump's approval. He can do nothing without Donald Trump's Okay, he can do nothing without that.
And to find that waste, fraud and abuse is something I have These clips I played before about Bill Clinton talking about waste fraud and abuse, and Al Gore talking about waste fraud and abuse, and Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden talking about waste fraud and abuse, and now that it's being located, they don't want it to go because it's the way they get rich. I don't know how politicians go into office making one hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars a year at the max. They live in two different places and they leave worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm talking about Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi and all the others. They're monetizing themselves. They've wasted our tax money. It's been stolen, looted, and wasted, and now we find out about it, and it's about time. And I don't know how now Ford Motor Company can continue in this course and be a functioning company.
Six.
I'm a Chevy kind of a guy.
But on the other end of the combustion engines, they make a fortune, then they give it all away. And when you buy a combustion engine, part of the price of that is the loss of evs.
Correct, Yeah, I think so.
Anyway, people on to get my book Green breakdown, they can learn the whole story of how this thing's all going to fall apart. And it's full of great sidebars too. For example, there's a sidebar in there. These are color sidebars that says global warming makes couples cheat. This says a dating website. This is Miami New Times the headline. So in addition to the science and economics, got all sorts of fun things in there about this mad, mad
mad world of climatism. But if they go to my website, Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com, I'll send him a signed copy and they can learn all they need to know.
You know, I think maybe after all these years we're having some measurable impact in a positive way. Steve Gorham, you're a great American, and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Steve, Thank you.
Bill.
Well, let's continue with more. And that's it. I've had Steve on maybe for the last ten or twelve years, and maybe there's an impact we're having with public policy, the opposite of what liberals intend. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. We live in a country right now logically is as pure and as good as perhaps it's been in the past one hundred years. You can look up and see a
blue sky. The predictions of those on the radical left twenty five years ago that by twenty twenty five there wouldn't be any snow falling anywhere in the country, Are you kidding me? Would he aired? Are you kidding me? As a boy growing up in Cincinnati, Ohio, there was an occasion where you could not take fish out of the Ohio River. Of course I wouldn't have done it anyway. But right now, on a summer's evening, you can go to the Ohio or Mississippi River and watch hundreds of
people taking fish out of the rivers. Because the pollution has largely subsided. We all organize ourselves against pollution, but against the idea man made global warming causing climate change. And what's happened over the past twenty five or thirty years or so is that these ideas have metastasized through the high schools and colleges, universities, and graduate schools in which a person is paid based upon their political belief.
If you believe in man made global warming causing climate change. Your idea will be funded. If you believe in a lie, you'll be paid, and politicians run on the idea. I guess what that we can actually stop the earth from turning, the oceans from waving in the skies, getting rid of all the elements in the sky above which is caused by man made global warming, which we cannot do. God has corrected that we fund bad ideas that fuel public policy.
And now with.
Donald Trump, I pray to God that is largely over. So let's continue with more. Coming up next to me Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform, and he's been out of for about thirty five years or so, preaching the gospel of giving Americans more of freedom by allowing them to keep more of their own money, and the centivizing the economic activity instead of trying to destroy it, and so much like with Steve gorm which I said to him earlier, I think we've had some.
Measurable impact in the minds of voters.
I think the same thing is true about Grover Norquest atr dot org. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you and all of the great Americans Every Sunday By Billy Cunningham the great American. One of the great advocates for tax reform in this country is Grover north Quest. He's been fabulous on this issue for twenty or thirty years, and now things I'm almost metastasized where actually it might happen.
When the Trumpster was first elected in twenty sixteen, and I thought, okay, he said and made all these promises that didn't occur, and I thought, okay, well, that's that's the way politics go. But now this time, I think maybe it's because of the last intervening four years, what he was put through, and as a consequence of that, he's now more committed than ever to doing what needs to be done. And we indicate now that he's going to go after the IRS. And Grover Norquist has written
on the subject many times. They have over two thousand cars available for the IRS the cost of one hundreds of millions of dollars. They have bullets, they have guns, they have ammunition. And so Grover Norquist, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, tell the American people, how good do you feel now that tax reform may actually occur.
Well, I think we're going to get the bill passed. The President of today tweeted out the assertion that we need now to pass one bill, not two bills. There were some well meaning people who wanted to.
Do two bills. The problem is if you do two, it would never actually get done. So we are now moving.
On one bill, which is the consensus issue here, and that will be a tax cut.
The President's tax cut will be made permanent.
It will go out indefinitely, not just for ten years, but permanently. And the good news there is that we have people will be sure and secure in what we're accomplishing, and you'll know, Okay, this is what your tax full expensing. One of the things that passed in the original bill which will be kept.
The lower rate for small.
Businesses will be kept.
The lower rates. Every American will have lower tax.
Rates than than before it because that's what was passed in the original bill. And the cheerful news that we will double the standard deduction for individuals and double the per Chiub tax credit. All of these things which passed in twenty seven will now be made permanent.
It is a huge, huge step in the right direction.
And as far as finding this trillion dollars, all of us assumed there was waste fraud and abuse. In fact, I've played before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama talking about waste fraud and abuse. In nineteen ninety four, there was a big government commission put together by Bill Clinton and Al Gore, and they had these four foot high pages of rules and regulations. They said, okay, we're going after that. Then you got Joe Biden. I've played his cuts about all the waste fraud and abuse in the
federal government. And I played that, and I'm thinking, Okay, that's going to happen. Why do you believe now, Grover Norquist? I know I believe it now, which I haven't believed it until recently, that this president is serious about cutting the size and the scope of the federal government over the objections of CNN. Why this time do you have more hope than before? Because I've heard heard this song before, sung by others, But this time I believe.
It several reasons.
The first is that we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate. When Reagan was president, he had a Republican Senate. He had the Grace Commission report, which came out with many, many good and important ideas, some of which could be done by executive orner, but many of which required laws. And with a democratic House, nothing could
actually move. Nothing could move. When the Democrats had the House in the Senate under Bill Clinton, they could say they were for all these reforms, but all those reforms reduced the number of democratic restinct workers in the country.
That was never ever going to get fixed that way.
The other reason to believe it is the president is now in his second term.
He was here for four years. He's seen how the bureaucracy.
Lies to the president about what's actually happening in each of these situations. And he had staff around him who is hardened, and they have fought these fights before.
And I would add one other thing.
Elon and x Elon Musk has a lot of brilliant talent which goes in and looks at the computers things you think should have been done every year for the last thirty years. For crying out loud, how in the world did they not go into these computers to say how old are the people on Social Security? Are there several people with the same Social Security number?
Perhaps? You know, why in.
The world did this not get exposed before? This is not you think it isn't terribly difficult. But they've gone in with people who know what to look for and how to find it, and they've been very good at it. And then the same thing happened. Add one thing x
X Twitter. Right when we tried to take a good idea and publicize it to cut taxes when the Republicans took over in ninety four in the House and Senate, what happened, Well, the New York Times wasn't interested in things, and the Washington Post wasn't interested in it, and so these are just they just were not interested in getting any of these things done or in publicizing them.
And says, now, what can happen As.
Long as he thinks it's a good idea, you know what, it'll get talked about. It will get talked about. He will send it out and ten million people will see what's going on, and that's over. It's one of those things where frankly, they can't shut us up. They can't shut us up. They want to, but they can't.
The stars have aligned, and they've aligned in ways I thought it was possible but not likely. One thing, I know, you're more familiar with the numbers than I am but the government accounting off. As GEO said in twenty twenty three, this is during the heyday of Joe Biden and n Kamala Harris. Now, between two hundred and fifty billion up to five hundred and fifty billion dollars a year was lost through the federal government with waste, fraud and abuse.
Now that thing hit with a thud because nobody in the Congress, Democrats controlled it wanted to highlight the fact that every year between two hundred and fifty billion and five hundred and fifty billion is simply lost, and that thing has been resurrected. I watched the other day of the interview with my friend, my good friend Sean Hannity, and I spoke to him about a day or two thereafter to get his perspective on things with the DOGE
and Elon Muskin and of course President Trump. And one thing that came out of it is the President said, look, I signed these eos, these executive orders. I sign them, but then they go into a file somewhere and nothing happens. He said, I did that in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I signed these executive orders. So what the bureaucracy ate the homework. They didn't care. So what's different this time? Why will the bureaucracy care when Trump signs an EO.
Well, they're putting people in who can actually manage that sort of thing, and that has really changed. New leadership at the head of each of these agents, at the head of each of these departments. I mean, this is just amazing what they've done. They've got some people who just are willing to say, we're doing this and I don't care to hear your objections because we've heard them before. Can you imagine, you know, some of the people that he's brought in, they have been through these wars, with
these conflicts, They've dealt with this before. They know how the bureaucracy tries to get around decisions.
Made by the president.
And after this, the Supreme Court is now serious about life. In the past, we had a very left wing Supreme Court which would say, oh, you can't do this, and you go why not? They say, well, we'll come up with a reason why later. This is the Supreme Court that recognizes the president runs the executive office.
The president runs.
The executive branch, not the bureaucrats. This is not set up for bureaucrats. This is set up for the president to run it and all of the decisions they've made in the past. That allows some departments to say, this is what we're doing, and the department's going to run it, or this SEC is going to run over the FCC or one of these alphabet things. This is very, very important that we have people as cabinet officers who are
willing to push for what the President asked for. We have a House and the Senate willing to investigate whenever the bureaucracy is in the way, and we have a Supreme Court that believes, yes, this is being made by us. This decision is being made by the President, not by bureau crounts.
I have a list here of the age of people getting Social Security benefits.
It is totally ridiculous.
It wouldn't take a rocket science is to figure out something is seriously wrong with one hundred and fifty year olds getting Social Security along with a massive fraud.
I have the list here.
If you're between one hundred and one hundred and ten years old, that's a pretty big number. One hundred and ten years old. Four point seven million are on the roles getting Social Security. If you're one hundred and fifty years old, there's one point three million getting it. If you're between ninety and one hundred and six million are
getting it. There aren't that many people alive, and you would think, and according to Elon Musk, they're using the technology that was available, believe it or not, during World War Two to conduct Social Security payments. I want every recipient to get every dollar that they're entitled to, but I don't want to have Social Security tell me every year there's one hundred billion dollars missing in Social Security.
There's no audit ever conducted in your business. At American tax reform, I would assume at some point somebody looks at an audit and say, we got an audit. See where the money went to do secondary proof. But with Social Security, that never happens. When I look at this list of people getting Social Security benefits, it is absurd, and Elon Musk wants to fix it now.
Lastly, I know it on your website.
I have many listeners believe or not, in the state of California, and they've got a terrible problem coming up because of what Gavin Newsom has done to gas prices.
In the Midwest. In fact, rates are coming down.
But can you tell the American people why the gasoline prices out west are ridiculously high caused by Gavin Newsom.
Well, among other things, they've been not building pipelines, they've been not building refineries, and because they have taxes, they have tremendous tax taxes on energy and everything that goes into energy. The higher energy costs in California are clearly, as you point out, done by that governor and the legislature and by previous governors of legislators that said, we
don't want pipelines coming into this into this beautiful state. No, they're going to have a real problem now and in the future.
And in fact it's going to get worse, not better unless and people of California got to decide for themselves what the hell's going on.
But tax reform is where you are.
Can you envision the day Grover Norquist, maybe in two or three years, were going to have a flat tax or a value added tax that the irs will not exist and that will pay taxes when we buy something, or there will be a flat tax.
Do you see that day coming?
Well, I think that we can and will get to a single rate flat tax. And the reason for that is that at the state level, there are eight states where the income tax is zero.
That's a flat rate. That's my favorite flat rate path.
And there are fifteen other states that have single rates of two, three, or four percent. So twenty three percent of the twenty three states twenty three states, almost half have a single rate tax, either.
Zero or a non zero number.
There are ten states that are phasing their income taxes down to zero, where the legislature and the governor said we're on the way to zero. Here's how we're doing it, and they've passed the law to begin that March. So over the next few years, probably in three years, there will be a majority of states with a single rate tax, and ten to fifteen years from now, they'll be fully
twenty states that have no income tax at all. So as a majority of the members of the House and a majority of the members of the Senate come from states with a single rate tax or a zero income tax, I could see how we do this nationally, not just in our state. It works in Texas, it works in Florida, it works in Ohio. You know, all of these states have single rate Illinois for crying out loud, has it. It's a single rate tax, and the legislature can't fix it.
It can't change it because people like a single rate tax. They feel protected. They're not going to be divided into different groups and mug one at a time. So it's a huge, huge step forward.
You know.
Lastly, you may put yourself out of business. Go over nor questatr dot org. You may be out of business with this. But now Indiana's passed. They had unanimous vote in the Senate by Democrats and Republicans in the state of Indiana to phase out the income tax. Ohio is on that route right now. It's three point five percent, is on its way to zero. And when I look
at this, it has to be number one. When I watch CNN, etc. They're telling me constantly, all this is a billionaire tax build that Donald Trump wants to give tax cuts to his billionaire friends at the expense of your social security. Are you there to respond to that one at all? How about the billionaires getting tax cuts and mom and dad being thrown off a cliff totally ridiculous.
Well, here's the thing.
That is what the Democrats say every time, as a tax doesn't matter what tax you're reducing, they think cutting you know, raising every tax is a good idea.
And cutting any tax is a bad idea.
And the American people are not buying the argument that reducing taxes for everybody is somehow gift to quote unquote billionaires. My favorite is the Democrats say, well, if you tax corporations, people don't actually pay for it. Well there is no, mister, general voters, It just isn't. If you raise taxes on general voters or the grocery store down the street.
What happens.
They raise the price of what they sell to get the more money, or they reduce wages or the number of people working in order to save the money that they then give to the government. They have to get the money somewhere, so they either take it out of today's payroll by paying people less or hiring fewer people, or if they can, they could raise prices, which hits consumers.
And if the company's really badly damaged such that the stock goes down in the company, well, then half of American families whose pensions are determined by the ice shares of stock, will see the value of their retirement savings go down. So retirees pay the corporate income tax. Consumers pay the corporate income tax. Workers pay the corporate income tax. Some things don't pay the corporate income tax. They don't
have any money. It's lungs to somebody else. And so this is you know, if General Motors spend takes a dollar and gives it to the government, that came out of workers pay, or it came out of higher prices, or it came out of collapsing value of the company.
We consumers pay every corporate tax. It's not don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. When business taxes go up, consumers pay one percent of those taxes directly, or wages go down, one or the other. Once again, Grover Nor course, I'll look Ford to the days in the next few years. You and I have no reason to talk atr dot org. Americans for tax Reform. It's happened, and you may get yourself out of work, but so be it, Grover nor question. You've been fighting
this thing for thirty years along with me. Thanks again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Grover, you're a great American.
Oh and absolutely, and even after we win, I'll call and we'll say hi anyway.
Grover, Thank you very much. Take care all right, let's continue with more. That guy makes a whole bunch of sense. He's been at it for thirty years. Don't believe what the media tells you. You, as a consumer, pay all business taxes in the form of higher prices for goods and services. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you every Sunday Night, My Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Thanks for listening tonight. As we began about almost three hours ago,
this is going to be a consequential week. I can't imagine that so many federal courts will take away the power of a president. Eventually, it's going to get to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court's going to rule in favor of Donald Trump. Very confident because they have to, that's the law. And secondly, I fear that Israel will not do what it must do for its survivability and if they don't act as if America acted in nineteen forty one through nineteen forty five, And what's the only
way to have peace in the Middle East? To have total unconditional surrender by hamas by Hesbla and by Iran, that you cannot have a situation in Gaza in which Hamas is still in charge, and that somehow all the sacrifices up to this point will continue for generations to come because Israel is being restrained by European powers or others not to do what's right for their survivability. They must survive. No nation could put up with what it put up with beginning on October the seventh of about
five hundred days ago. And watch the murder of the innocence, and the trade the innocent for mass murderers for everyone Israeli. It's worth more than one hundred Palestinian murderers? Are you kidding me? Somehow this must stop, and it must stop now, and Israel must win this war, and they must be unrestrained to do what they must do, especially toward Iran. The Hasbalahanim, thanks for listening, and say a prayer of gratitude for the sacrifice of so many police officers. The
thin blue line between democracy and anarchy. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.