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Willies Guests include Congressman Brad Wenstrup, David Johnson, Congressman Thomas Massey and Kerry Slone.

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Willie Rock You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized. There's radio's best. The recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast episodes, the one and only Bill Cunningham. All Right, Billy cunning Ahead, the Great American. My glory be yours. Thank you for listening. This Sunday night scheduled again.

I think a great provocative radio talk show under the leadership of Danny boyd Any Boy to any Boy. Gleason, my producer coming up later will be one of the most influential Congressman in the Congress presently as leaving after about twelve years of service. He announced it on Thursday. Congressman brad Winstrip of the great State of Ohio. Might had a personal friend of mine who ran for

the office and won about twelve years ago. And it was determined by him that he's got two children under the age of ten, and that he's a pedietriss. He's a doctor. Retired from the military about six months ago with the rank of colonel. So he's spent twenty five years in the military. Was it Abu Grob treating many individuals that were hurt. And he married somewhat later in life. And he said, you know what, when the kids were not in school, he was able to take them with them driving from

southern Ohio to Washington back and forth. Has a nice home there. But nonetheless, when they go into school, a father wants to spend time with his daughter and with his son, they want to spend time together. He wants to go to parent teacher conferences. He wanted to go to their soccer and other games. And he was working about seven and eighty hours a week. He was picked by politico dot com as one of the top ten US

Congressmen for effectiveness that people pay attention to him. He's on the Ways and Means Committee on the Intelligence Committee. He's also chair of the COVID nineteen Origin Subcommittee, and he's co chair of the Doctor's Committee in the US House of Representatives. And he works about seventy to eighty hours a week. And he said, you know what, I want to go to parent teacher conferences. I want to watch a soccer game, and I get it I understand it

completely. So he's coming up later to talk about that. Also later on will be one of my favorite Congressman, Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He voted against. He was the only Republican that voted against the resolution that involved four and a to Israel. We're going to ask him why. I think I know the answer, which is he's voted against foreign aid for the last twelve years he's been in the Congress. He votes against it every time, no matter what it is, because he said, we can't afford it. We

have needs here. What a refreshing idea. Coming up later and also later on will be David Johnson, author of The Diversity con which the billions of dollars and I read his book and I didn't didn't know this, But let's say your Walmart or your Target or your best Buy, one of the big

ones multinational. Every day, every month of every year, there are pitches made to Walmart in Bentonville, Arkansas from small supplier, small manufacturing concerns who go in there to try to get stock space for their product at Walmart, which can be a life changer. And so Walmart and Target and best Buy and all the rest have, in a sense good housekeeping seal of approofd that you have to participate in DEI diversity equity and inclusion programs in your small company

to be a favored supplier. So it's made clear in the beginning that you have to have coursework for your employees to take preaching the gospel of diversity, equity and inclusion. It's not they demand equal outcomes. They want to know how many of your employees are gay, how many are LGBTQ plus plus plus, how many are persons of color, how many are disabled, how many are male, how many are female, how many of the origins, et cetera, et cetera, in order to do business with multinationals. I had

no idea it was that bad. But you and I are going to spend time with David Johnson and Dennis Prager, who's fabulous wrote the forward to his book The Diversity con and one of the questions is can a six month old baby be racist? Here's yes, living in this culture hated by the radical left and by many Democrats. Yes. And also later on as Carrie Sloan, she is the executive director of Crime Research Center run by John Lott, to talk about how in these difficult days it is almost critical, critical,

not especially women guard and protect themselves because cops will not be there. But before we go much further, it was announced earlier today that the Republican field has down. Senator Tim Scott went on the Fox News about two hours ago and said he's dropping out. Did a show with Trey Gowdi. And one has been a US Congressman from South Carolina, Trey Gowdy. And of course Senator Scott's been a senator for about ten years, has no plans to endorse

anyone else. And so now it's going to come down to Ron De Santis and Haley still in it, Chris Christi is in it for reasons unclear to me completely and of course to Donald who's going to be the nominee of the Republican Party. And so we'll see what happens down the road. But one more is gone out of the Republican field. So as we talked tonight, there was a report out of the BBC that the Israeli Army provided for the generation of power in some of these Gaza hospitals, hundreds of gallons of fuel

that after they were dropped off, they were in the smaller containers. They were about twenty five gallons. The Hamas radicals murderers came and took the fuel and whatever's left off of the hospitals to help the gaz of people, especially those who are mortally wounded us that shields by Hamas, they steal the product,

which is what they've done for the past eighteen years. That is the hundreds of millions of dollars given to Gaza and the so called the plo It has been stolen by a moss and used to build three to five hundred miles of steel reinforced tunnels, to buy guns, to buy holwarzers, to buy missiles, to buy artillery shells, to spread a gospel of hate. And so that's not well covered by the mainstream media because it doesn't fit everything that

fits they promote. If it doesn't fit the media diet tribe, they don't promote it. And so I'm going to share my thoughts with Congressman Winstrup in about an hour or so. But as a young man in college nineteen sixty eight, I thought the country was going through a second American Revolution. We had been in the Vietnam War actively for about six or seven years, They were about, I don't know, two or three thousand every month killed in

and around Danang and South Vietnam. Body bags were everywhere. College campuses regularly erupted, administration buildings were taken over. Kent State was about to occur. Sixty eight, you had the terrible assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Junior. Riots broke out once again in every major American city. Cops are being killed. The Democratic Convention took place in August and Chicago,

much like this year, riots occurring. I thought I was a young man, like twenty years old, but I said, are you kidding me? I'm living through an American revolution. And the little city of Cincinnati we had riots, of course. And at that point I was a sophomore at Xavier University and I was the resident manager of a small apartment building in which Xavier

students lived, and I was a resident manager. I get a call as the riots are ongoing and Xavier is not in the best part of town, and he said to me, Bill, can you go out on the front lawn, which was about twenty by thirty feet. I know you have a twelve gate shotgun and sit there and dissuade individuals from fire bombing my apartment building that you live in. So I said, yes, sir, I'll do

that. So I put in my hands a twelve gate shotgun with two shelves, got a little bit of a lounge chair, went out on the lawn about twenty feet from the sidewalk, and you could hear gunfire. Looking about a mile to my left, I could see the fires burning in parts of Cincinnati. All hell was breaking loose, and at some point a police officer, Cincinnati cop pulled up on Dana Avenue, put on his lights and looked at me. I was like twenty feet twenty five feet from the street.

And looked at me and said, young man, what the hell are you doing. I said, well, Sarah, I'm the resident manager of the apartment building, and the guy the owns that wants me to sit here to guard the building. He looks at me and says, get your ass back in your apartment, lock the doors. If they see you there, you'll be fresh meat. Get the hell out. So I said, yes, sir. So I went back into my apartment, called the owner, told

him what he said. He said, well, just guard it the best you can There were riots everywhere every summer sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy seventy one, nineteen seventy two, nineteen seventy three, assassinations, Vietnam War fifty eight thousand killed, some say murdered. Lost that war, of course, two hundred and fifty thousand

wounded, three hundred thousand Vietnamese killed. And then we had the impeachment of Richard Nixon, who didn't fit in with what Washington wanted from a Republican. He'd won forty nine to fifty states in nineteen seventy two, and within two years he's out of office. I thought, my God, were coming apart. This is a revolution here I am in twenty three about seventy seven percent of the American people say we're on the wrong track. Things are bad,

Something fundamentally is not working in this country. I look now at riots, Look at that George Floyd, opportunistic street criminals who torched many parts of many major American cities, billions of dollars in damages. Dozens are killed, a couple dozen cops are killed, shots are fired every which way, breakdown of law and order, defund the police, Black Lives Matter, et cetera.

Here we go fleecing the public for literally millions of dollars, and now we have a completely not only corrupt, but someone who is feeble and almost insane running the presidency. It's going to come out the next few months that we have the most corrupt president in American history. That makes Richard Nixon look like a boy scout. This is unbelievable, the stuff that Joe Biden, Jim Biden, Hunter, Joe Biden and all the Bidens have monetized political office for

a long time. I'm watching. I can't believe what's going on again, and now because of the anti Semitism present and now revealed in every major American city, including my little Cincinnati, Ohio, where the University of Cincinnati has an Hamas chapter at UC. I look at what's happening in Columbia, New York, Chicago, what's happening in Austin, what's happening in Los Angeles and Portland? Complete meltdown. The cities are in utter collapse, don't function.

I'm looking at a story here on the Drudge Report about what's happening with the so called Venezuelans and others that show up in Chicago. In Chicago's the weather's getting a bit, shall we say, a bit a bit cold. The illegal immigrants are saying Chicago is so unpleasant, we want to go back home. Fly us out him. They can't take living in Chicago as an immigrant from El Salvador or from Venezuela. In fact, Chicago has a much higher

murder rate than any of Central American cities. Shots fired, Are you kidding me? I would say there's more than one hundred thousand shots fired in the city of Chicago every year. And in the city of Cincinnati there's about four hundred people wounded every year and about eighty to ninety murdered. The number in Chicago is off the charts. Can't live at legal immigrants. Legal immigrants say we're out. Moody's cuts the outlook on US credit rating to negative. Our

bonds are in credit watch Thursday or Friday. They try to sell forty eight billion dollars in thirty year bonds. There weren't enough buyers, so they took them, took them down for a while. It's unbelievable what's happening in America and the words of Abraham Lincoln come back to me. We are a nation committing suicide. No foreign power could ever militarily, maybe economically, because of

what we've done on debt to overtake the United States. George Washington said at some point that we choose to follow the divine author of our blessed religion. We are the salt of the earth and the light of the world. If each of us, in our own place choose to do that which is right, we begin to change history. Are we doing what's right on the debt, on the southern border? Are we doing what's right on college campuses? How about public education? How about black lives? How about public education?

How about a corrupt welfare system? How about the fact that California is uninhabitable, and the fact that Portland and Austin and Seattle or are in complete collapse. Everywhere I look, I see disasters. And as Abraham Lincoln said, quote, no foreign nation can ever take a step on the Blue Ridge Mountains, or take a drink from the Ohio River, or visit the Shenandoah Valley in a contest of a thousand years. Unless we let them do it.

A free nation will live forever free or we will die by suicide. Quote unquote, seventy seven percent of us say we have bad vision of the future. We're on the wrong track. And I'm looking at this and I'm going, how in the hell did we get in this position because of corrupt, terrible, awful political leadership. The worst we've ever had is God's attention diverted somewhere else Where is Washington and Jefferson and Lincoln? Where is Ronald Reagan?

Where are the great leaders to lead us out of difficult circumstances that don't exist? It is unbelievable how Americans have worked theirselves in the position. And good politicians like brad Winstrop says, well, you know what, I'm going home. We're going to ask him why in about forty minutes. But one of the best congressmen in Washington, picked by Politico and the top ten chair of this and chair of that, well respected doctor, a colonel. But he

said, I've done enough. I've got to go home. The good ones leave, and the bad ones Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, etc. They stay and make it a career, make it a life, and Fetterman, It's unbelievable how incompetent. The leadership of this country is how terrible. The public schools no respect for law enforcement. The majority of young Americans will not join the military. Only nine percent of college kids support Israel's right to exist,

the great majority. When all the Jews killed, are you kidding me? The answer is no, My God, are we in trouble? Well, let's continue when we do. Number to call is eight six six six, four, seven, seven three three seven have JD and call from Tampa and Virginia many other places. And killing unborn, healthy babies causes great celebration in Columbus, Ohio. When here in Ohio that issue one past tears of joy, Champagne. We're gonna be able to kill more healthy unborn babies.

Yay, that sounds great. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, busy. You know, my boss is an old Jewish carpenter and the default physician tended to be blame the Jews. Israel is always to blame, blame the Jews went, in doubt, blame the Jews. If the dozen or so Muslim Arab countries in the Middle East, from Morocco to Libya to Egypt to

Iran, Iraq to Syria to Jordan Elebanon. If none of them are, if they're completely dysfunctional, if there's no middle class, if they're run by grand potentates and military hunt leaders, and the average person living in Libya or Egypt, or Jordan or Syria, Iran Iraq lead miserable lives. It's terrible, especially women. Many times fathers will sell their ten or eleven twelve year old daughters in exchange for money to marry some fat ass forty year old for

sufficient monies. Whenever there's no functional society because of the failure of policy, guess what blame the Jews. Israel did it. Of course they did, always to blame. When thirty one student grew groups at Harvard, Harvard signed quote, we the undersigned student organizations hold the Israeli regime responsible for all violence in the Middle East. All blame the Jews. That's what's happening, not justin Jordan or Lebanon. This is happening at Harvard, for God's sakes.

Well, let's continue with your calls. Coming up next Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every something else by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue and never stop. We simply continue. The vicious anti Semitism seen around Europe and in this country is completely disgusting, no matter what the question is that a fault

position must be blame the Jews no matter what occurs. When your Wikipedia or look up how many Islamic terror attacks have there been in the past since nineteen seventy nine, since the hostages were taken, and something north of fifty five thousand separate Islamic terror attacks, killing at least three hundred thousand. Now, the Islamic terror group could be known as ISIS or the Muslim Brotherhood or Hezbolah or Harmas, it could be the Taliban could be Al Kada, could be

Boca Haram, just come up with a name. But to kill three hundred thousand, you would think the lack of educated college kids would understand this.

Terror attacks have taken place all over Egypt and Norway and Sweden and Nigeria and New Zealand and Afghanistan of course, Mal Deves Iran and Iraq, in Russia, in India and Pakistan, in England and France and Germany, and the good Old US of A in Spain, in Canada, in Saudi Arabia and Israel and Syria and Somalia and Belgium and Mali and the Philippines and Algeria and Jordan and Lebanon and Turkey, et cetera, et cetera. Do you see

a pattern here? Do you understand what's happening? It is clearly true that the great majority of Muslims here and around the world, especially here, want nothing to do with terror. But it's also true that twenty to thirty percent and buy into the aims of isis Hesbla and Amass And that means there's about two to three hundred million Muslims who want to kill the Infidel. That's one

hell of a number. Israel is doing its best to save civilian lives by dropping one million leaflets throughout Gaza, by making literal telephone calls to residence on their phones telling them to get out, say quote, we're going to bomb your neighborhood, please get out in the next four hours. They do that every day. In contrast, Hamas urged the people to stay, blocks them from leaving, steals their food and fuel, and they put up roadblocks to

maximize civilian casualties. To blame the Jews. Hamas leadership living in luxury, and Cutter makes it very clear that they welcome the death of their own people during a jihad. They go right to heaven with those seventy two virgins. In short, Israel does everything in its power to minimize Sevilian casualties. Why how Mas seeks to maximize Sivilian casualties. But guess who's guilty for all that? Of course it's Israel, no question, On and on. In America,

Jews have done famously well. Why I have to ford disclosure. I practiced for many years. I'm a practicing Roman Catholic. But I practiced for many years and a so called Jewish law firm interacted completely went to a bunch of Jewish events. My lawyer, my personal lawyer, is a Jew, not because he's a Jew, but because he went to Brandie and he's brilliant. Jews are hated for being rich and for being poor. Jews are hated for being powerful they want to take over the world, and for being weak,

for being miserable, wretched. Jews are hated for being religious they think they're better than the rest of us, and for being secular. Why don't they try to fit in more? Jews are hated by communists and capitalists and college students and fascist and hamas Iran Iraq, by this squad, and on college campuses, they're hated. Jews are hated when they're victorious, like in the four or five wars thrust upon them, and they're hated when when they're

victims. Jews are hated for not fighting back. They went to the Holocaust as lambs and sheep. They didn't fight back. And when they do fight back they're a victim. They're called ethnic cleansers and they commit genocide. It's always the Jews. The Zionist thirty Jews is what you hear constantly. It's disgusting. Jews are hated by black supremacist and by white supremacist, and by capitalists and by college students. It's always those thirty Jews, on and on

and on because they're convenient scapegoats. Jews in this country believe in faith and family, love of God. And every time they go one hundred years ago into a city, suddenly there's lots of busines, Suddenly there's hospitals popping up, like Jewish hospital. They put together if they can't get in colleges and universities. They form their own They don't look toward government to solve their problems. They do it themselves. They succeed because of faith and family and hard

work. That's why they succeed. So now we're in a situation where I don't at times, I don't recognize my country. I don't know what the hell's going on on college campuses, capitals, and at some point Joe Biden will collapse as he's always done. He's asleep right now, he's wearing his adult diapers to bed, and he's mentally frail and elderly incapable of discharging the duties. The only problem is the vice president would probably be worse. There's

no way he completes the next fourteen months. It's simply not going to happen. I'm sorry, twelve months. There's no way with his steep mental decline to continue. Did you see him. A couple of days, He's going to be in San Francisco with with President Zy is gonna it's gonna be embarrassing again. If the media covered him objectively, he'd be out of office by now. The only thing to get him out of office is if more polls come out that show he can't beat Donald Trump, in which case the the

intelligentsia in this country will kick him out. Then put Kamala Harrison there. Then you're gonna have real problems. My lordy, Chicago is so unpleasant. Migrants want to go back home. They can't pay it anymore. The American dream for them is a nightmare, unbelievable. Let's continue and coming up later as a retiring congressman, one of the best, brad Winstrop. But he's gonna still, he's not gonna. He's simply not going to run for reelection

and and uh next November. Also later on, as I read the book, David Johnson's book, The Diversity con and is a con job that we've bought and paid for. Let's go to j D in Vegas. Not heard from him in a long time, JD and Vegas. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. JD. How are you? He well, I'm trying to hang in there, Billy, how are you beating? Blooded and unbound? The Bengals today looked awful. Yeah, yeah, they had another tough one,

Billy. I don't know if you remember, but a long time ago, I think in the late fifties, Congress called in Casey Stingle and Mickey Mantle to have a hearing on baseball's anti trust league and anti trust laws. And Casey they asked him a question and he talked for about an hour, and as you remember how he talked in sting Elise. Then they went to Mickey Mantle and they asked him what he thought, and Mickey old good old Mix says, I agree with everything Casey said. Bill, I agree with

everything you have said for the last half hour. J D. Don't you think we have some we have some barnacles on us? And I just don't know how America, despite the comments of Abraham Lincoln, I look at Las Vegas and Clark County and I see the polling has the Trumps are up by ten percentage points. How many thousands of illegals vote every year in Las Vegas. Well, we have about four hundred thousand in population of our two point three million in Las Vegas. That's a question that is, you know,

up for discussion. I can't give you a good answer, even though I'm close to it. I'm close to the Republican people in the party. But I wanted to comment on your congressman. I followed him a little bit on your show, and I read in the paper and I was very disgusted to hear that he's not running West trip again. You have the Republican Congress has

a very strong group of intelligent doctors and lawyers and businessmen. As in comparison to the Senate on both sides, I could only probably name ten Republican senators that are worthwhile. I could only name one Democrat, and he's up for he's up in the air right now. But the Durban's and the Schumers, and the white Houses and the Bloomenthals. I mean, there's just one despicable senator after another. And in Congress, you know, they vote like lemmings.

Whatever Pelosi told them to do. It's always two hundred and twenty two. Out of two hundred and twenty two, at least three Republicans stand up their independent thinkers and they fight a little bit, and that's where we get into our problems. But I guarantee you you put the intelligence quot in the in the house, we are so much better than them. And you had guys like doctor Tom out of Nebraska, he passed away. He ran for two terms. Tom Coolberg. You had Jim de Mint in South Caroline.

He ran for two terms. To me, the Republicans run for two terms and they either they say, let's the next guy try it, or I'm spinning my wheels and whereas the Democrats just hang in there like the ladies and fifty years. You know, it amazes me how Biden keeps coming up with things that have to be taken care of and have to be done after thirty

six years in the Senate and eight years as a Vice president. He just realized three years ago, out of all the things that have to be done, Bill, if you're in your job for forty four years and you haven't gotten anywhere near all the things that he's trying to do, I mean, you're incompetent. And I have a leave now that you know. The Democrats just just don't do their research, they don't do anything. They're just in't

there to hang on. The Republicans come up with figures and facts and what have you, and they just get filibustered out and after a while they give up. I mean, is Isa from California smart as a whip? Yeah? Uh, you know that guy, the guy that was in Texas and Trump brought him in I forget his name. Now he was an intel and then he didn't he didn't run. But I mean, there are so many intelligent Republican Congress people as compared to the Democrats. They give him a bunk.

Pelosi gave him a bunch of money to take back to Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Chicago and Billy. Where'd that money go in one of the pockets of left wing groups to misspend and to miseducate large numbers of individuals. It was wasted, it was given away. We have the debt with no consequence, We have nothing benefiting. How about six trillillion dollars was spent during the pandemic, and sadly the Trumpster had a bunch of deficit

in his four years of about seven trillion dollars. And then so when Biden gets in here to match that spending and the money is gone and we still we're going to pay one trillion dollars this physical year and interest on the national

debt one trillion dollars. Believe they can't even give money away without losing twenty five or thirty five percent of it defraud And just last week I read there are billions and billions of dollars from that money during COVID that were scammed, and they know it, and they've made the decision not to prosecute and go after the people because it what costs more money than they could collect. It's unbelievable, like, for example, the money we give to Ukraine. I

wouldn't give them a dollar. I'd give them I'd give them a gun, I'd give them bullets, but I wouldn't pay for their pensions, and I wouldn't pay for their infrastructure. People that their their their leaders or whatever. Yeah, give them, give them what they need in ammunition, but not any cash. And what Biden has done with the college loans. You talk about the polls. Everybody's really hpped up on how big Trump is on these poles. I got a better poll for you a couple of days before or

after that poll, I can't remember. They asked individual questions. Who's better Biden or Trump on the economy? Trump plus twenty two percent. Who's better on the border, Trump up tremendous. Who's better on the on the on the border, on forums, the issues? You take a national poll just recently, Okay, he's ahead, but I don't believe those polls at all. But the individual issues on the border, I mean, we got ten million people in this country, Bill, that we don't even know where the

hell what one hundred and sixty from one hundred and sixty countries. What kind of a melting pot are we are? We We're not a milting pot. It's like we're going to be the potty's melted. I mean it's a glow torch. And JD we have seven and thirty two individuals from those Iran, Iraq, Jordan, and Lebanon that have been released inside the country, including more than one hundred and fifty on the terror watch list. We release terrorists

from Iran into the United States of America. That's what we do, and suddenly that's somehow permissible. Jad. Thanks for your call, But I tell you, damned this thing I've ever seen in my God. Do we need leadership right now? And we have none. And the media is not done doing his job yet on Donald Trump. The charges are a bunch of bs

and the civil case is worse than that. Well, let's continue with more fifty minutes after the hour, Bill cunning on the Great American with you every Sunday there's not a moral equivalence between the rape victim and the rapist, between the murdered and the murderer, there's not an equivalence. There's not a moral

But what about is them? That's not the case. Israel was viciously and unwarrantly attacked by about three thousand Hamas murderers, hyped up on drugs, with battle plans, according to The Washington Post, that involved marching into the West Bank, hooking up with terrorist groups there and have a complete complete obliteration of the state of Israel from the river to the sea. Palestine must be free. Well number one, there is no Palestine. Number two. Israel has

tried many times for a two state solution. Keep talking about two state solution, two state solution. Gaza and the West Bank is the two state solution. But it is so screwy there and so bad to live there. Hamas and others take all the money provided by others and use it for guns and weapons instead of hospitals and schools. The problem is a good chunk of Gods of residence support the goals and aims of Hamas, Burgee, Gabriel. It

got to get her on soon. I washed her In a panel discussion, Bragee Gabriel said, there's two hundred to three hundred million Muslims around the world that support Hamas and Hasbla and what they want to do. Now that is not most It might only be twenty percent of the total. But when you have two to three hundred million people committed to your death in Israel to Jews, supported by the ignorance the useful idiots on college campuses, that's a terrible

problem. And I can understand completely what Jews in this country feel as if they're under attack, and it's got to stop inside of America, and the administrators of these colleges and the mayors of these blue cities, you got to rise up and say you're no different than the ku Klux Klan or the Nazis. You're a hate group and we won't put up with this at Harvard or Columbia, University of Chicago, University of Cincinnati, UCLA, or Portland.

What's happening in the West Coast is particularly egregious. So let's continue with more. We never stop, We simply continue. I as a great American, will never give up on the Home of the Free and the land of the brave. Coming up here in about ten minutes will be Congress from brad Winstrip. He's Chair of the Origins of the COVID Virus. He's also on the Intelligence Committee. The line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three

three seven. Bill cunning Immigrant America with you every Sunday night, willing brough you by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at choice hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham, Kelly Cunningham, the great American, of course. One of the great

Congressmen anywhere on this great nation of ours is Congressman brad Winstrip. Been there about twelve consecutive years. He made a rather dramatic announcement about three or four days ago that he will not seek re election to another term as US House of Representatives. And if you listen to me for a while, Brad comes on quite often. He's on the Ways and Means Committee. He's on the Intelligence Committee, he's chair of a subcommittee looking into the origins of COVID nineteen.

But most importantly, Politico and others have said he's one of the top ten US Congressmen from either party of the four hundred and thirty five. He's in the top ten because of his influence and his committee assignment's ability to walk across the island, deal with Democrats at times, and he's well respected. So it's said to lose people like this. He's got one more year to serve and Congressman Brad Winster, welcome, I think for one of the final

times as a Congressman to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people why you decided to make this at this point? You announced it I think on Thursday, three or four days ago. And why are you leaving Congress at the end of your term. Yeah? First of all, Yeah, we've got fourteen more months to go and I plan to run through

the tape. We've got a lot to do, and I hope to get a lot of things done when it comes to dealing with the pandemic and how we deal with one in the future, as well as how we can make America a healthier nation, not just to have a health care policy, but actually be a healthy nation, and can continue to work on national security. And I think at the end of this term there'll be opportunities out there to continue to stay in the game, not necessarily in an elected position. So

we'll see what comes our way. But a lot of that had to do with family. I've got young kids and I miss them, and so that's a big part of it. And you know, Congress is hectic. We know that going in. When I started twelve years ago, I didn't have any kids, and now I have two, and I want to make sure that I'm there because I think one of the most important things that we can do in America is be good parents. And sometimes fathers aren't present as much

as they should be. And my kids want me around and I want to be there. And you know, I was reminded a while back by one of my surgeon mentors that I was taught by as a physician, and he said, you don't have to be someone somewhere else as long as you're somebody

at home. And I've always believed in God, family, and country in that order, and I'll continue to work on all three as far as the typical life of a US congressman, many many years ago, before you took office, I met with a congressman at that point, Congressman Rob Portman, and I had sites of maybe running for that seat, and he said, before you do it, I want to meet with you. I said, rob Id, love to meet with you. And I met with him. I said, he said, let me show you my schedule. I said,

okay, let me see your schedule. He left on an early flight on Monday morning and was in Washington by about ten am eleven am on Monday. If he had something going on early Monday, he left on Sunday and he stayed there until Thursday night. On Friday, he showed me scheduled in Washington. He was on four committees. He showed me the appointments he had coming up the next week. He showed me the presentations, the speeches. And the worst part about the job, he said, was cold calling people

to get money. As a relatively new US congressman, I had to go into a soundproof booth. Gave me a list of people to call and shake them down legally of course, for money. And then he showed me when I got back on Thursday night of Friday. I had at that particular weekend seventeen appearances on Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday. Do you run a similar schedule pretty much, except that I have to say I've been in a position one way or another that I actually have fundraising teams that do most

of that work. I mean, I will have events, and I will have meetings and this and that, but I don't do a lot of the phone calling. It's set up and we seek it in another way. So I've been fortunate. It's not that way necessarily every district, but we've been able to work it that way. But otherwise, Yes, one time I wore a fit bit and I was doing between thirteen and eighteen thousand steps a day in the Capitol, just going from one committee to the next. So

you get a pretty good idea. It's not a desk job, that's for sure, although you do spend other hours at your desk doing a lot of work, and it's been enjoyable work, there's no doubt. But I'm not leaving bitter or anything like that. I no, democracy can be very messy. I think it's messier right now than it has been in the past, But that doesn't mean we can't get things done. You cited those other articles. I think that sometimes when you do things, you get them done quietly.

You're not necessarily on TV talking about them. And I think that as a doctor and as a veteran, you can bring a lot more to the table on issues involving health and military and that's where we get things done and sometimes bipartisan with other doctors and other veterans, and so I think that had something to do. But if you take a come in a sense approach to a lot of things, and you work on being persuasive rather than bombastic, you can really get things done. And I have a Reagan quote on my

desk. It said there's no limit to what you can accomplish if you don't care who gets the credits. Yeah, no question, you're one of the top ten, maybe the top five or six. You're up there in my book with Congress from Jim Jordan, people like that. I have great respect for. You've been called a doctor for about thirty thirty five years. You've been called a colonel recently promoted, you were in the military twenty five years and now a congressman. But for about twelve years. So you're a doctor,

a colonel, a congressman. But the most important thing you've been called is dad or honey that from your wife? Correct, how's that too? I want to keep that one going for sure, you know. But yeah, it's it's it's true, and it's music to my ears when I hear the kids, you know, call me Dad. I got married late. Didn't know if I'd ever hear that, so I'm thrilled to have it.

And you know, there was a time when the kids weren't going to school yet where we drove back and forth every week too, to add to it, but the kids were good in the car. They watched Andy Griffiths and they know that show. So we're trying to do things best we can. Will it. What are you going to do, because you're still a relatively young man. Are you gonna back into practice? You're retired from the military as a colonel, you're retired as a congressman. Are you going to be

a doctor. I'll always be a doctor in some way, shape or form. We'll see. I don't know if it'll be full time practice like before, but at the same time, I think that there'll be avenues to be engaged in the health arena as well as the national security arena. And at the same time, I think there's going to be some things that you can do locally, philanthropically or just making good connections for people, because I think there's a lot of things you can do if you don't wait for Washington,

we can do it better privately than if Washington tries to do it. All right, Congressman Brad Winshall, let's go on to some of the issues. On Friday, all hell could break loose again. It appears that the proposals of Speaker of the House Johnson to break this thing down into two parts. A part of it would be a valot until January, then part would be February. He doesn't want to tie everything together the one hundred and six billion dollars, which is a credit card debt. On top of the credit card

debt, what's going to happen between now and Friday? Is there going to be another government shutdown? Well, when nobody runs to shut down, I can tell you that. But what we want to do is put things in place to start with better process. And we've seen over the last several years what we don't want to see is a bill at the end of the year that's a huge garbage pail where everything gets thrown into it and it gets passed,

and usually it's an increase in spending. And so we want to paste this out, but actually working in our committees in the House, not much in the Senate, but in the House, to go ahead and come up with our appropriations bills, our actual spending bills where we actually say this is where we want to spend money. And so what's being proposed is to extend government funding in two steps. Go with four appropriations bills that will extend to

January nineteenth, and then the remaining eight bills extend until February second. That doesn't mean we haven't done these things in the House and aren't close to completing them all, but understand that when we get it done in the House, then has to go to the Senate or the Senate has to bring theirs to the table and we go to conference and then it goes to the President.

So we're buying time. And you know, we also have a bill in place, so if we get into January, there's an automatic one percent cut. At the same time, we're going to make sure that we can adequately fund our military and can engage with some of the situations we have going on around the world, but a one percent cut on most other areas would be

just fine with me because we have a lot of unnecessary spending. The bottom line is we have to get back to a process where we are really acting like a business like CEOs and getting together and deciding how we're going to spend our money and address our debt. It is one of our greatest risks. The trajectory is unsustainable. Moody's is put the US credit rating on a downgrade watch. You know, it's a negative outlook for the US credit rating,

and we've got to do better in managing our country. And at some point we also have to address mandatory spending. Those are the things that are programs that money just goes out the door without us ever looking at it, and they're taking over the pie. So in addition to borrowing money, what we actually have keeps getting squnched as far as the discretionary spending, which is what

those appropriations bills are. But at the same time, when you put a program in place and you put it in perpetuity, you've got to go back and look and see if it's working and can it be sustainable. You have to look at numbers. You have to look at how many people pay into the tax paying system, all of these types of things. What does the next generation look like? That's what actuaries do with insurance companies. That's what we have to do as a nation. Are you shocked, Oh, what's

happening since October seventh about the Hamas chapters on most US college campuses. One hundred thousand march to New York City, one hundred and fifty thousand marched over the weekend in London. Are you shocked at the blatant anti semitism you're seeing

everywhere as if it's mainstream. I am. I had you know, we knew we had problems on our campuses without a doubt, But for people to be so one sided, they have so much hatred and be able to completely ignore what Hamas did when they went into innocent civilians in Israel, and I don't think we've seen anything like that in this world since the Holocaust, to be honest with you, as far as brutal, terrible behavior where you totally

re disregard someone's life, down to children, the atrocities that were committed on and these groups seemed to be able to just ignore that. And now we hear a call. We now we hear a call for a ceasefire. Bill, Well, there was a ceasefire. There was a ceasefire, but Hamas Hamas negated it. Hamas went right in. Hamas went right in and just took down innocent people. Took no prisoners, if you will, except for some. And they're still held hostage, and no one seems to want a

comment on that. I've been for a two state solution for some time, and but you know what, this is interesting. Bill. We were cleaning the house and a picture frame came open in the back and there was old newspaper. We're in there for nineteen ninety four Cincinnati enquire The sports section was kind of fun because we just want opening days. This is April of ninety four. Kevin Mitchell hit a home run. Anyway, But if you look at this, I went to page two of the front page and it was

the Israeli soldiers leaving Gaza. It was an article about them leaving Gaza and they're being attacked, and they're being attacked by the youth who are throwing rocks at them and chanting we don't want peace. Because the reporter, I don't know if it was an AP reporter, they were like, well, why are you doing this? You know they're they're leaving. They're leaving, so they're gonna be peace and we don't want peace. This is the youth.

Well now what are they forty years old? Now you know who they are. So this seems to be something taught. It seems to be within that particular group. There is no there is no chance of peace. They don't want peace. It's death or nothing else for Jews right now. And you know, Israel has the right to defend itself and they should and we're going to help them and as as we can. You know, the House has passed a bill to fund them, and we also paid for it in our

time. We took some money from the Irs to be able to actually that was already appropriated by Democrats. We took some of that money to pay for you know, from the IRS, to pay for the funding for Israel to

defend itself. Yeah, and I would say this that that in this country, I don't think things have been this bad since nineteen sixty eight, with all the riots in nineteen sixty eight, the political assassinations, what happened in Chicago, And here we are in twenty twenty three, and something got screwed up three or four years ago. Maybe it was because of the George Floyd

riots. They weren't protest. They were riots in which cops were killed, a couple billion dollars of value taken out of cities, complete col lapse of law and order. Whatever it was, George Soros to Marxist, whatever it is, things have been completely screwed up. And now it just seems like riots. Protests, knocking on the doors of the White House, bloody hands all over the building from pro a Moaque demonstrators, Lafayette Statue vandalized. It's

happening in many major cities. I see the swastika put on NYPD police cars over the weekend in order to, I guess, frighten the Jews. Just massive lawlessness is happening everywhere. Everywhere I look, I see nothing but crisis. You're in the belly of the beast. Is there a belief in an apprehension in Washington, Congressman that we are living in very perilous times When it comes to spending by this country. The two wars in Europe and in the

Middle East. You have a complete breakdown of law and order on the southern border. I saw on one of the morning morning shows today that there's a school district in Texas near the border that has to have Narkham available because they've had several overdoses. They think unwinningly of grade school kids. That the prevalence of heroin, percoset and fentanyl is so ubiquitous that Narkham is being handed out to seven and eight year olds to their parents in case they inadvertently take fentanyl

or purposely take percoset. If you're in high school, there is something wrong in this country right now. We need people like you to stick around. Brad Winstrop. I understand why you're leaving. But nonetheless, is there a sense among Republicans and Democrats in Washington that we are in trouble? Yeah, there is a huge sense of it, I could say so within the Republican

Party. I think in the Democrat Party they understand it. A matter of fact, I think more and more of them really want to do something about the border, and especially when you start talking about Sentinel. There are many over there China is and the other threat that yeah, we haven't even really talked about in this conversation, but we have many, many times, and it's it's a big part of the problem. You know, I'll still be in the fight, but I want to make sure my kids know what America

is really founded on what we have been and hopefully you know this. This seems like more than just a little bit of a pendulum swing. Is much greater than that, and we have to address that. And people have to start understanding that America is being self destructed and also being distructed, and it's happening on many many fronts, and we have to continue to go after that. But I don't think people are growing up with the right education on many

fronts, and that has been the problem when we've let it happen. And you know what, this is the greatest country that's ever existed, but you have to continue to live by the same principles, morals, values and virtues we have had for over two hundred years. And when we start letting those go, then we have a problem. And if you're going to disrespect the democracy, the only democracy in the Middle East and be okay with them being

slaughtered and support those that are slaughtering them. This is a sickness and it's a culture of death that is out there on many fronts. All right, thank you, and we'll talk again later this year and next. But congratulations brad Winstrup, doctor, colonel, congressman, father and a husband coming back home in about a year. Brad Winstrop, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Congressman. Thank you always

a pleasure. Thank you, God bless you. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I'm Billy Cunningham, the Great American. It's kind of sad when someone like Representative Congressman brad Winstrup and military man, a doctor, congressman for like twelve years, says I can't take it anymore. But it happens. You have a life to live and you want to live

in and brad Winstrom has one more year ago then it's done. Coming up next is David Johnson The Diversity Con and it is a con and it's a New York Times bestselling author. David Johnson is next, and six month old babies be racist. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. Of course, one of the great con jobs happening is that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic nation that is almost irredeemable.

And my next guest points out there are many words that exist today in reality, especially in colleges and universities and elsewhere, like diversity and equity and inclusion and white privilege and anti racism and critical waste theory and queer theory. I kind of feel bad saying the word queer, but I guess it's okay. Now. There were terms that rarely discussed five ten years ago, didn't exist, but today they're proliferating because I think they pay a whole bunch of money

to those who advocate. One of the great new books out is The Diversity con The Secrets and Lies behind the Shady DEI Industry, put together by David Johnson and David Johnson. Welcome, I think for the first time, to the Bill Cunningham Show. And David. First of all, let's go back a little bit in time to your history. I've read some of your background, and you don't necessarily fit the ideal of what many would say is acceptable

in our society, which I find very acceptable. Tell us a little bit, a little bit about your journey before we get into the diversity con sure, so, and thank you for having me. By the way, I'm

not a conservative, so I'm like a traditional liberals. I guess you could say the time my story started with I worked for Hasbro is an engineer, and one day they brought me into a CRT training seminar and the messages that we were told was that children as young as five would start to exhibit oh sorry, they started to exhibit overt racial biases and the same level as their parents five years old. Yep, children as young at five, particularly white

children. And what they wanted the engineers to do my team was to use anti racist messaging to influence the product and packaging to bring the racial consciousness to young children. And this is Hasbro, which is one of the great toy makers in America. And so you also point out in a part of this that that that left claims that a six month old it can be a racist baby, and that by the time of five, Hasbro has a mission changing

the toys that little kids play with to make them anti racist. And so, and also you say in your bio, which I find very interesting that you're a young, black, center left gay man who never felt discriminated against in America, but now you're an engineer working for Hasbro, and all of a sudden, you're taught to look for racism everywhere. Yeah, that's true. So I grew up in upstate New York, and like, there's racism

in the country at micro levels that I'm sure many people have experienced. But the claim that we're being taught to accept now is that America as a whole is a racist country, and that all of our institutions are set up to disadvantage black people. Martin Luther King that we're supposed to judge people based on their merits and their character, not the color of their skin. But diversity, equity, and inclusion are the complete antithesis of this idea. And so

where how does this tell me? As an engineer for Hasbro? How did you manifest what the company wanted to be done? So that a three year old girl doesn't develop racist ideas from a doll or some toy. How do

you change the product or what do you reflect in the product? So they didn't give up any specifics in that meeting at the time, But the overall message that they were giving us was to just use the ideals of anti racism and critical race theory and keep it in mind when designing packaging, advertising and marketing. How do you do that? How do you how do you keep anti racism in mind when you talk about toy packaging? How does that work?

You could do it in a number of ways. What we see typically is that you might have a children's package with the Black Lives Matter fifth and maybe in a assortment of racially diverse children that are espousing these the teachings of these organizations or these ideologies that people need to see color. That was a model used by a cartoon network's Children Show to teach children that they should judge

people based on race and consider that when they're treating people. And so it's one thing to have a black barbie, which I don't that's fine, But to have subliminal, indirect liberal messages inside a toy product. Is that kind

of where you draw the line? Yes, So, like you said, I don't think most people would care if there's a black barbie, for example, But the problem would come in to say, when you tell children that the black children need to play with the black barbie and the white children need to only play with the white barbie, and that these the differences in race need to be accounted for when they're interacting with each other. This is where I draw the line, and this is why I found it so unacceptable,

and I thought that I needed to bring it to the public's attention. It's happening as we speak. As far as other indications of this, your book addresses the misconception that efforts are Marxist and origins while using Marxist ideology, these large left wing businesses that fund DEI groups are more interested in crushing local businesses

creating a monopoly such as Google and Amazon and Facebook. They use race and acceptable DEI practices in liberal communities, but the object is to make certain of small businesses that they compete against cannot succeed. That is one facet of it. Because these ideologies are pushed by such major market players like Google, who's owned by Alphabet who's even larger company. You have the NFL pushing this, you have places like Target. Even Walmart had a d program for their employees.

So it's a very widespread issue. And while one of the side effects of their activism is going to be the destruction of businesses that don't comply. The end goal is to kind of engineer a society what they would call an inclusive society, where the even idea to challenge these ideas is just unacceptable. It's not anything that's allowed to be done lest you face the consequences of losing

your job or social ostratitization. So basically there's one. It's almost like the cultural revolution of communists China back in the sixties and seventies, in which you have to believe or adhere there are certain set of principles and if you fail

to do so, you will be canceled. It is the exact same we are experiencing a cultural revolution in America, and you can see the parallels in that because a lot of these activists, while they're teaching DII or critical race the or they are also throw in a criticism of generally just what they consider capitalism, even though the nature of capitalism free market exchange, is what allows America to be prosperous, but they have been taught to see capitalism as an

inherent evil because it doesn't bring about equal outcomes for all the people. Involved, nor should it, because we don't want equal outcome. We want people to earn. What will people to have what they earn through their merit. No one decided this. There was no law that told Hasbro or Amazon or Walmart or Target what they had to do what they didn't have to do.

So it seems like no one is directing all this DEI stuff all over the country, but everyone's like marching in the same direction that are in charge of these large multinationals. Can you tell us why in your opinion, it's happening that way? Because bud Light came out a little bit strong with Dylan mulvaney, etc. Bud Lights now used to be the top brand. Now it's not in the top ten. Target's taking a serious hit when you have tuck

pouches three year old boys or girls that identify some other gender. Is there other marching orders given? How come different companies, different businesses in different ways of life proceed with DEI But like nobody specifically is in charge, they just know to do it. The companies are facing pressures from what I would generally

consider two major sources. The first source is top down from such large institutions like black Rock, and other large investment firms that will go to these companies and say, hey, we have a DEI program for you, and if you want to continue receiving our investment, if you want to receive certain credations, then you will have to implement this in your company. So it creates

a corporate pressure from that's top down. And then on the other side of it, there's an emergent social pressure with the advent of social media, where relatively small groups of people can brigade a company and give their ideology a much bigger sense of popularity among the populace that it actually has. So companies will interact with social media and think that the general public supports anti racism as an example, when they don't, but it has an outsized view because of social

media. David Johnson, author of the Diversity con And so for a large multinational institution like Target or Walmart, there are pitches given in Bentonville, Arkansas every year for thousands of companies line up in order to pitch Walmart on buying

their product and putting it on the shelf. You mean to say that part of accepting the product from a small provider to Walmart, Walmart will say to that small company, we like to do business with you, but here's some DEI programs, which I consider it to be dee, not DEI because we're going to die from this. But here are the programs we would like you to implement. Wink wink, nod, nod, you better do it. Is that how it works. That's a pretty good way to describe it.

It will usually come in the form of they'll have a certificate, for example, and it's this company's certified diversity. It's the acceptable levels that the top down companies would like to see. And the smaller companies can either choose to abide by it and then adopt these diversity programs or they can reject it. But then it comes across that they have less certifications, they have less I guess it doesn't look as good when they're compared to their competitors and as far

as getting future business. Much like during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, you get so many red ribbons when you complete certain levels of indoctrination. The more levels are, the more emblems or symbols you accumulate, the more likely the fellow travelers will do business with you because of what you put out on your company. Website, for example. It is almost required to do business with these

large companies Amazon, Microsoft, Walmart, Target. You have to tow the company line to make the money, and if you don't, guess what, you're not going to get the business. Now do you see this, David Johnson, Here we are at the end of twenty twenty three. Is this accelerating, Is this declining or is this maintaining the status quo as far as companies having to tow the DEI line to get business. Is this increasing,

staying the same, or lessening. It's tough to say. I would say that the status quo of companies just blindly accepting it has been disrupted because we've seen such major backlash against companies like Anneiser, Busch and Target. So I believe that if the public continues to speak out and make their voices known that these are not ideals that we will suppor with our dollars, then we will

see a continued decline of these ideas being accepted in institutions. However, on the other side of that is because they're seeing pushback, the push to have these companies coerced into accepting this has become more forceful. These individuals who teach these classes. Do they really believe that a six month old or a four year old little girl is racist? Do they really believe that? Some of them do. I think very very much that it's like a cult mentality.

There are people who know that it's not true, but they're pushing it for ideological gains. And there are people that are true believers that don't think through these ideas completely, so they're not aware of the contradictions or the absurd piece of sen it. You know, David Johnson, you made some great comments, one of which is, you see what's happened to bud Light, you see what's happening to Target, you see what's happening to Disney, And that

is I will not go to Disney. I don't drink beer, I don't drink any alcohol, but I would clearly not order a bud Light. And more than once I've passed a Target to go to a Walmart. However, I'm not sure Walmart is significantly different than Target, but nonetheless Target got in the got into Target. Shall we say of those of us who want a more traditional viewpoint, but this is uh. I'll ask you the last question,

David Johnson, is this is this so system systematic. Is this so ingrained in corporate structures, like through black Rock that owns thousands and thousands of businesses? Is this so ingrained that it's going to be damn near impossible to reverse. It's very ingrained for virtually every major institution, But it's not impossible. And I think we've proven that by the fact that Anheuser Busch went from

being the number one beer to no longer being in the top ten. And I think that it's good that people stop going to Target and go to other places, even if it's Walmart that also has the policies, but they're less vocal about it. So it's an incremental shift back towards normalcy, back towards

American values. So if we continue to do that, then I think more and more the needle will be pushed back towards the center, and these companies will be forced to reject these ideologies or they'll be hurt in their bottom line. David Johnson, thanks for coming on to Bill Cunningham Show. There's going to be about a million Americans who hear this interview at some point. I love the fact that Dennis Prager has the forward to your book and the fact

you know of what you speak. You describe yourself as a gay, black American center left who's never been felt discrimination. I'm sure you have felt it. I'm sure I've had it. Everyone feels discrimination or censusent in one way or another because of the way of one's appearance, one's weight, one's age, the way one talks, the way. Absolutely, those things are everywhere. But I don't want invidious discrimination where you're held back because of your gay

status or your color. That that is not the American way. But the book is fabulous. It's called The Diversity con the secrets and lies between the shady DEI industry, and it happens because lots of money is involved. Billions of dollars are involved. It's seeking to change the American way of life and we can't have it in that direction. Once again, David Johnson, author, thank you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and David,

good luck to you and all your ventures. Thank you so much and thank you again for having me. God bless America. Let's continue with more. And it is sad because follow the money, like fellow travelers, have the same philosophies and ideas and I love the analogy to walmartin Bentonsville. Some company, little company shows up to get shelf space. But to get the shelf space, wink wink, non nod, you have to have the housekeeping seal of approval and then you'll get business. Wow. Oh, let's continue.

Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with you every Sunday night. Now I Bill Cunningham, the Great American. You know these things always follow the money. How many millions of dollars is Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc. The Black Lives Matter movement? How much money have they made? Millions and millions? Follow the money, nothing but money and it's paid for and black lives at antire organization. The founders are now multi millionaires and it's a

con job and so many colleges universities. One of the saddest parts he discussed is the fact that the diversity con has permeated itself deep deep in the corporate America and that one must play the diversity line DEI line in order to get business anywhere. And that is extremely sad. They have the large multinational companies demanding that this critical race theory, teaching employees that six month old babies can

be racist things of that ridiculous character. It's a con job, and it's happening, and it continues to happen, which is the miseducation and the misappropriation of time for this ridiculous theories. Let's continue with more coming up next as one of my favorites the Congressman Tom Massey of the great State of Kentucky.

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things for happening after the Tuesday debacle in the state of Ohio. And joining you and I now is Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky, et cetera. He's an entrepreneur, he's brilliant, graduated from MIT. He can fix his own cell phones for the screwdriver, and the guy's unbelievable. I don't know whys in politics, but nonetheless he's under attack by some as voting against support for Israel in favor of Hamas. Plus the kill switch. Put that in

the back of your mind, the kill switch. We're going to talk about that. But Congressman Thomas Massey, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you describe why you decided it's the only Republican and to vote against in a sense Israel in favor of Amas. At least that's what the commercial says. Yeah, well, you know, and everything you see on TV or listen to on the radio is true, right, absolutely, listen listen. I came out early on. I condemned the attacks by Hamas. Those

are brutal and barbaric. There's no justification for attacking innocent civilians like that whatsoever. And I also support Israel's right to defend itself. But in the last week, we've voted on about a half dozen different resolutions and whatnot, condemning this or that and saying they support Israel. The one that ticked them off the most. And I suspect this is why they're running those ads is I did not vote to send another fourteen point three billion dollars to in foreign aid

to Israel, and I've not voted for foreign aid in Ukraine. I've not voted for foreign aid anywhere, and the eleven years that I've been in although there was some three point eight billion dollars for Israel and the DoD A Probes bill that I voted for that's sitting over in the Senate and they're not acting on it. But I just don't vote for fourign eight especially when it's a

standalone package. This was fourteen point three billion dollars. And you know there's some who argue, well, Congress and MASSI, this will stimulate our economy and create jobs because they're going to redeem those as gift certificates at Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. I don't think, Sony, can you tell me where the fourteen point three billion? And by the way, artistically I loved ISRAELI spent time I'm there in May, would love to go back again one hundred percent

support. But if we start sending this one hundred and six million dollars, where does that money come? From do we print it? We don't have it. We're upside down two trillion dollars. Where do we get the money? Well, we're borrowing it right now at five percent interest rates. That the interest rate we pay on our debt has about tripled in the last few years. And we're going to have about a trillion dollars in interest alone.

So we don't have the money. We're borrowing it pretty soon the borrowers, the lenders aren't going to loan it to us, and we will have to print it like they did during COVID. They printed five trillion dollars to fund those bills that I voted against. That's why you get all this inflation. I say, the twelve hundred dollars checks were the cheese and the trap to get people to go along with it. But it's going to cause more inflation

here at home. We're not even protecting our own borders. No we should. We're not even spending a third of that on our own border. This it's ridiculous. So and where does it go? Well, you know, I talked to a friend who's who immigrated from Israel to the United States. He's a constituent. He said, part of The problem is there anti gun in Israel now, right, and that if they had the equivalent of the

Second Amendment, a lot of this could have been stopped. In fact, some of it was stopped by armed citizens who saw what was happening and came together, or they may have gotten much further into the country. Yeah, and it's ridiculous. Two percent of Israelis were authorized at home to have a weapon, two percent when almost all of them spent two to four years in the military. But there was an idea that we got the IDF, they'll

protect you. And now they're handing out handing out to guns like popsicles in July, because now anybody that wants a permit to have a weapon in their home, they're saying, okay, take it all. So to go back to the foreign to the spending in Israel of one hundred and six billion between all the entities, the reason you voted against it is number one, we can't afford at Number two in the Senate, there's about three or four billion

dollars sitting there ready to give to Israel anyway. And number three, you might recall a couple of days ago in the thirty year Treasury auction. They had to be shut down because there weren't enough buyers for the thirty year treasury note that got up to close to five percent of the thirty year And there's a little bit of a sense that, you know what, two trillion dollars we're going to borrow this year again, this fiscal year, which we don't

have never going to pay back. It's going to be forty trillion dollars by the end of this decade, forty trillion dollars. We're going to spend about one trillion dollars a year just an interest, which is about twenty five percent of all the money collected from all the Americans and tax receipts. We pay about four trillion in taxes and we spend six trillion Thomas Massey, how long can that continue? Are we going to become the wear mark of the late

nineteen thirties where it'll take a wheelbarrow to buy a loaf of bread. What you suggest is true. And by the way, the debt to GDP ratio in Israel is much lower than our debt to GDP ratio, So why should we borrow the money and with no promise of it getting paid back? And send it to a country that is per capita better off than we are. That'll be my fourth reason. The fifth reason this money is going to go

to military industrial complex. It's not going to go to the things that they really need to stop sort of this medieval type attack with you know, back hos and trackloaders and drones and whatnot, and rifles and machetes that would you know that they used. They're going to spend it. It's all. It's basically a stimulus package for our military industrial complex. They see it winding down in Ukraine when you know, as soon as Afghanistan stopped, they they they

fired up Ukraine. And now that Ukraine looks like they they're going to have to negotiate some kind of settlement there. They're they're looking for the next place they're going to spend all this money. I'm not going along with it. I'm not going to spend them. And for that, I've got eighty eight thousand dollars of advertisement running against me this week between TV and your radio station. The one good thing out of all this bill is we're stimulating the local

economy. These lobbyists who yes wrapped me up, I think they're spending a lot of money at your radio station, aren't they. Yeah, yeah, no question. And we spoke off the area yesterday and you took the adult approach and said, spend it all. Just keep spending it, and we're more than willing to take ads. And it is what it is. Let's move on to point number two. And I saw this on YouTube when you went off on the kill switch, and I have a fear down the road

the direction we're headed. If the interchangeable drill bit becomes Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom, whoever, the liberal left wing Democrat takes over the White House and we go four to eight more years of the policies and the kill switch is here. Can you explain to the American people what is the

kill switch? So in one of those thousand page bills that passed two years ago before we were in the majority, they mandated that by twenty twenty six, all new vehicles sold in the United States have to have an automated kill switch. In other words, the vehicle will monitor your driving performance and then disabled the vehicle if it decides you may be impaired, not drunk. It

says impaired. And this is different than the breathalyzer technology that thirty one states have where you have to blow into something to start your car if you've been convicted of a DUI. That technology already exists. This is a totally different technology that can disable your car while you're driving it. Imagine you're a mom with your kids in the car and you pulled over for the ambulance to go

by to something, and then you swerve to miss a deer. You went around some obstruction in the road, and now your car shut down and you're on the side of the road. Who is going to a to get your appeal? Who do you appel it to? Do you press a button and a lawyer comes on from the Department of Homeland Security or something? And the data? Are they the data is clearly going to be stored in your car. Who has access to that? Do they need a warrant? How's it

going to work? Is it going to use video cameras that monitor your face to make sure you're looking at the road? Does it use video cameras facing forward? You know, I broke down and bought a new truck. I've made my old truck last twenty five years, and I told my wife, Okay, this thing is not reliable to hault cattle. So that convinced you I needed a new truck. This truck tells me when it thinks I'm not doing a good job of driving. It tells me I might be sleepy.

I need to pull over. It sets off alarm bells. What they wanted. What this technology will do is tie that to your ignition switch and shuts you down when the vehicle determines you're you're not suitable for driving. What if it shuts you down on a railroad track coming in coming into the station. Miami Avenue, which is close to our station, is an obstacle course. They're putting in pipe, sewer lines, they're put in water, and you

wait. Then you go left, and you go right, then you stop, then you go left, you go right, then you speed up, then you stop, then you go left. And I went to a stop sign and turn right. I ran into another sewer district truck had to go left if my blazer determined that I was impaired. Uh. And this kill switch is not breathing your air. It is simply monitoring whether you're swerving or

going too fast. And it shuts off the car. Correct, And they also, by the way, they've included another part of that bill that has technology to monitor the air in the car, not the driver's air, but the air in the car. What if you're the designated driver for three people, you're trying to get home from the bar in the car, you know, having helped you, the car is going to shut down because it also

it also says they have to have that technology. What about marijuana? You know, the Buckeye State joined twenty four others in allowing the marijuana use. And I would imagine people are going to get in the car and I would imagine, you know, driving drunk under the influence is not good. But nonetheless, if you have a half of a one or if you have one or two beers, you're not impaired. You're under the limit. What about

that? Well, listen, if they come up with technology that sniffs for marijuana and shuts your car down, you won't be able to drive through Washington, DC with the windows down because every corner in Washington, DC smells like pot. Well, Congressman, this kill switch technology is right out of animal farm right at A nineteen eighty four. This is big brother determining whether or

not you can even drive. And I can imagine the false positives the kill switch may activate when it shouldn't be activated in the middle of nowhere, in the hills of Utah or Colorado. Suddenly you're in the middle of nowhere in

Montana visiting the Yellowstone and all of a sudden you're stopped. And how do you say, okay, turn it back on at two o'clock in the morning, or a trucker trunckers So wait a minute, think of the false positives, and they're going to have to check you to know if your driving conditions are suitable for where you are on the road. This is why this week I offered that amendment to defund this mandate. So this was my legislative fix for this, was to defund the entire manday. Now, it would only

defund it for one year because the spending's for one year. But would you believe nineteen Republicans voted to keep this kill switch mandate. And even though I got two Democrats to cross over, believe it or not, AOC voted for my amendment because she was worried about the civil liberties aspect of this. You see, you are voting with AOC, That one AAD. You know what? I wait, here's what I told her. I talked to her on the floor. Oh, I got you know they're running I told AOC.

I said, they're running eighty eight thousand dollars of ads. This can my district saying I always vote with you. I said, it's about time you vote with me once and she said, I am I'm not. I know she was surprised by the AD. So what can we do to encourage you and these other dozen and a half Republicans to give us autonomy and freedom? That DUIs are going down? The smoking upot in the car is not a big issue. It shouldn't happen. But I don't want the government monitoring my

driving. And the next step will be, of course, to monitor the thermost out in your house, because all of us have smart thermostouts. What about that? Or if you, you know, during COVID, if you haven't passed the test or aren't vaccinated, well you're now a vector and we don't want you to be mobile, so they could shut down I mean what I'm saying, people are gonna say, oh, you sound like a conspiracy theorist congresson nacy. No, I'm not. Our governor went to churches and

wrote down life plate numbers during COVID. He sent the state troopers to do it. If you went to church during his order not to go anywhere, you can be darn sure they will use this to stop these cars. And they'll say it's a national emergency. So what can you do? Yes, yes, please, I don't know. I don't want to call them out that. You can go to my social media accounts. It's at Rep.

Thomas Massey. You could search for the hashtag sassy with Massy if you want, because I also use that, and find the list of the nineteen who voted against this and let them know that you do not want Orwell's future. Tell them nineteen eighty four was not an instruction manual for Congress. You know.

I said this on the air, and three or four years ago, in March of twenty twenty, the federal government designated me as the designated survivor that I would be at this at our great stations underneath the transmitter, broadcasting necessary information because of the familiarity of my voice in the Midwest, and at one point it got to the idea that are we going to shut down the

highways if people don't pay attention and stay home. And unfortunately, Americans complied, from California to New York, from Michigan all the way to Texas. Generally, Americans complied and they stayed off the roads and stayed home. The next pandemic. With this technology in place, you don't need a designated survivor.

All you need is to kill switch to turn off the vehicles. And next up will the Department of Energy wants to keep your house at seventy six degrees in the summertime and sixty six degrees in the winter, and you can't go above that. Imagine what's coming. Well, the government already claims to have the right to have an Internet kill switch where they can shut down the Internet if they think it's important for national security. So that's a concern.

And oh, by the way, this week, this just came out this week, the Stanford Virality Project under subpoena, they released documents that show that the US government was using Stanford Observatory to censor me and my tweets during COVID. So the US government's censorship industrial complex was actively censoring a US Congressman's Twitter

account and Facebook account during COVID for true things I posted. I referenced studies on natural immunity, and they were the US government executive branch using these third party groups were getting the signal back to social media to shut me down, and they did. Can you imagine what they would do to some ordinary schlep citizen living outside Austin, Texas. What they would do. They would shut so they can keep you in your home, Demand the temperature inside your house,

kill switch on your vehicles. You know your role, and shut your mouth either taking away your wood stoves too. That's how you get your gas is done. You can't use would well Thomas Massey, I'm glad to hear that you're against Amas, you're against beheading babies, and you're in favor of

Israel. But however, the funding of that, we have a debt crisis coming in this country and that will add to it, especially when there's four billion dollars in the Senate waiting to go to Israel anyway, So correct, Thomas an, I go ahead. Israel's right to defend itself and condemn the barbaric attacks of Moss and I hope you make your station does well running those ads. I don't care about the ads. I think it's a stupid waste of their money. And I'm glad it's going to fund your your salary and

your airtime to get the truth out. Me too. Congressman, you're the best. Thank you very much. Thank you. Congressman. All right, let's get that's the legendary Tom Massey in Northern District of Kentucky. That's wonderful. He's brilliant. He's an MIT scientist and he's in government, and he's applying human principles to federal government activities. And the two don't fit. Bill Cunningham, The Grand American Live with You every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham.

Congressman Thomas Massey comes from a different way of thinking of things as an engineer, etc. What that guy wants to do is be consistent in when he takes a vote. He's voted against every foreign eight package since he's been in the Congress because he's at number one, we can't afford it. Number two, we have needs at home. How refreshing coming up next to his author Carrie Sloan. She's executive director of Crime Research for John Watt's Crime Research Center

dot org. Difficult issue, that is, why are more and more women gunning up getting training? If permits are required, getting the permits, how come is more dangerous in our society to be a woman. And if you're a woman, and should you be prepared to defend yourself, especially against domestic violence, of which she had a terrible circumstance personally with her domestic violence case.

And you're going to hear about it in a few minutes, so let's continue Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you and other great Americans every single by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the possession of guns able to defend yourself and proper circumstances is a critical issue, especially with so

much ramp and crime happening thither and fro everywhere. There were so many Israelis that were not permitted to have a private firearm in their home to help defend themselves, and that certainly has now been corrected, and so many cities are completely out of control. Police departments are collapsing. When I see what happens in Oakland. Your home can be burglarized, your business, arm robbery, whatever, and police don't show up. They they eventually a few hours later

might drop by and say, look, you're too busy. And so nine to one one calls were not being answered. There's a lot of arm robberies, home invasions happening everywhere. If somebody gets shot inappropriately, who knows, riots may break out. It's almost critical that as individual Americans, under the

Second Amendment, we should have the right to defend ourselves. So a few days ago the US Supreme Court took up a case oral arguments, and it appeared that the liberal and the conservative justices might may side with the Biden administration that the nineteen ninety four federal law is in line with the practice of disarming dangerous people and does not violate individual's Second Amendment rights. Now that's to be determined, of course, the case likely will not be released until May or

June of next year. But what it does do is say to someone who may be subject to a domestic violence order that may be accurate or not, that their Second Amendment of rights go poof. And they stays that way for quite a period of time. And then eventually, if you're convicted, you may have other difficulties ever getting your firearms back. So Carrie Sloan, she's a fine American Executive director for Education for the Crime Prevention Research Center at dot

org. And Carrie Sloan, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Carriy, can you tell the American people your personal experiences that you have in this regard? Well, I am a domestic violence survivor, and so, of course I hold a very controversial opinion in personal opinion based on facts. In this particular case, as someone who had the justice system failed me. At prosecutor dropped my abuser's sell any charges to

a misdemeanor and then offered him a plea bargain to a diversion agreement. And then law enforcement officers, as I stood in front of them with broken teeth and fingerprints around my neck from being thrown around by my throat, told me to hide when my abuser was let out of jail. Hide. Yes, yeah, can you believe that they told me to hide? They said, do you have a place to go for four or five days? And I

said, well, confused obviously, I said I do. And they said, well, we know that the chances of violence significantly escalating after he is let out of jail, right because in his mind, my abuser's mind, it's my fault that he was in jail, so he's angry. So it's a significant chance of him the violence actually increasing. And even these law enforcement officers knew that that restraining order that was put against him was not going to keep me safe. So what threw me into a lot of what I do

is okay. So if we're not going to keep these guys in jail like RAHEMI is certainly not the guy that we want a gun owners representing us, right, I mean, this dude is terrible. That being said, CPRC, you know, on our website Crimeresearch dot Org, you can go there and in our wee get free for the piece. You can actually see the data that John Locke put out showing that domestic violence restraining orders do not keep domestic abuse victims from being murdered, either with or without a gun. So

why are we continuing? I'm sorry, sir, go ahead. The point is that I've done a lot of legal work when it comes to representing men, generally men who have been to charge with DV and about half the time they're legit. The other half the time, they're not legit. In your case, Carrie Sloan, it was completely legit. And a piece of paper is not kevlar. You can get that piece of paper that says, okay, you stay away from Carrie Sloan. It didn't. It doesn't work that

way. Well, what happened to you after you had to go hide somewhere? Did it? Did things metastasize ever get worse? Oh? He stalked me. Yeah, he absolutely stalked me and kept me in fear and things. And it wasn't actually for me, It wasn't until I bought a shotgun that the nightmares of being beaten us up because they're it didn't work. So obviously the idea of knowing that I was able to defend myself actually wasn't just

tangible. It also helped me, you know, psychologically. And that's the biggest key with all of this is you know, and this is my biggest argument, and my piece in the Wall Street Journal recently, is if if we obviously know that these guys are going to continue to get out, and these restraining orders, like you said, they're not kevilar, they're useless. In fact, the law enforcement officers in not so many words, little you know implied that by telling me to hide. Why are we continuing to allow

these guys out? Why are we giving them uh diversion agreements and allowing them to reascend instead of keeping them in jail where they belong? And furthermore, why are we continuing to allow politicians to create to soften the laws that benefit abusers instead of victims. As far as you're you're kind of come to this from the wrong angle, from from many perspectives. You're your teeth knocked out, you could have been murdered. But you're saying that those who are generally

men could be a woman. But generally men should be able to have their guns. If they have a dv against them, they should should should still have guns. Is that what you're saying? I am as the kids say, that's an awfully spicy take. Yeah, yeah it is. It's a very controversial take. And that's because for two reasons. First and foremost, UH, when we're talking in regards of the Raheemi case, specifically, Rashemi was never convicted of domestic violence. Obviously, we have enough evidence to show

that that's likely. But in America, you are in essential proven guilty. The guilty. The only thing that he was actually convicted of, interestingly enough, was being in possession of firearms while under a domestic violence restraining order. Now, of course that's what threw all of this together in the Circuit court below the Supreme Court case, whereas the Supreme Court is obviously using the Bruin test to decide whether or not the uh, somebody like him, a dangerous

individual well should be able to own firearms. But at the end of the day, he got the firearms regardless of being a prohibited person. Law enforcement and even you know some justices and people politicians, they know that protection orders

aren't going to save us. We have data proving it. So we need to change our paradigm and help people understand nobody is coming to protect us, and we must embrace self defense and learn how to use a gun, especially for women domestic violence syctoms, because it is the most effective self defense tool available to us, no question women, especially because of the size deferential to have a Smith and Wesson. I prefer for a woman a six shot,

a small one, and maybe a snubnose thirty eight. Don't it your chamber around and you're good to go, but let's go back a little bit, kind of get me to the point. Now you're a victim of DV. Terrible DV on one hand, but on the other hand, you say, well, my abusers should have the right to keep his guns. Explain kind of put the bridge between those two things, well, the short of it,

and to keep it succinct for the brevity of your show. It is not my responsibility to decide, or the government's responsibility, or a politician's responsibility to decide who has truly been reformed or who gets to the right to own a gun and who doesn't. It is our responsibility as individuals to learn how to protect ourselves and be better trained than those people that want to do it harm because the system has already proven that it's not going to do anything to

protect us. We know law enforcement is never going to be there on time, so we need even in the best case scenario, they still can't you get there on time. And Supreme Court is already ruled on several occasions that law enforcement has no legal obligation to protect them. So we must start helping

women embrace self defense. We must teach them that they can become confident in being able to defend themselves and not have to take away the rights of individuals because any of these laws that are put in place that are put in place to keep guns away from people like Raheemi also can be used against people that

are in essent divorced. Proceedings to seek this a lot, but interestingly enough, a lot of people don't realize that abuser will use these laws against their victims as well to his red flag laws, restraining orders and so to get their victim disarmed so they had easier access to them without a fear of being killed themselves when they go to attack or stock their abusers for their victims.

And in the case before the Supreme Court on Tuesday in twenty nineteen, Zaki Raheemi assaulted his girlfriend in Arlington, Texas and threatened to shoot her if she told anyone, which led to a restraining order that suspended his handgun license and priveted him from possessing firearms. Of course, he did not adhere to that order and then threaten another woman with a gun and then within two months open

fire in public five times. It's currently locked up, thank god. So this is a bad case that might in your perspective may make for bad law, but nonetheless that's a terrible fact pattern. Yeah, it is, you know. And like I said before, this is like the one as a gun owner you know that works in the gun industry as well. I am a fire arm instructure. This is the worst example of somebody that we would

want to representing us. But at the end of the day, the bottom line is that the data proves that the restraining order isn't going to do anything. Excuse me, He's a perfect example that it doesn't solve the problem. He obviously was able to obtain a gun even being a prohibited person. But at the end of the day, in America, he is a United States citizen, and in America you are innocent until proven guilty. And those guns

were initially taken away from him without new profits. All of those laws that are put in place that are intended to protect abuse that can be used against victims by their abusers. And that is the biggest reason why I do not support these types of laws. If he is really a problem, if he is really a menace to society, he should not be back out on the

streets and he should be kept in jail period. Bingo that's it, because that little piece of paper might be an accelerant and his viewpoint to go after even harder. And the best thing a woman can do is get a snub nose thirty eight revolver, and all of a sudden you have power in your own hands, a better security system because the police are not going to protect you. They have no duty to protect you. They do their best under

difficult circumstances. But the best protection you can have is not a piece of paper. It's a thirty eight. That's the best protection you can have. Well, personally, I think it's a SIG three sixty five to thirteen rounds. But yes, woman, I looked at that, and I have a P two thirty eight and a P nine thirty eight, and I didn't think I needed that many more rounds. But I love I love six hours. Yeah, I too. I have one with me all the time except when

I'm at work. But nonetheless I have them. And but it takes a little bit of bodily strength to chamber around unless you keep one chamber and keeps the safety on. I love that weapon because the safety on is a wonderful feature. But the chamber around and walk around with a hammer cocked. I don't want to do that, and so it might take it might be more difficult for a woman to chamber around. Correct, No, it's not. You may just have to be tought properly. I'm a firearms instructor as well,

and they do. By the way, I have that two thirty eight total digression from our conversation that two thirty eight is a fantastic little carry gun. I love it. I love it. Yet I apologize to go back

on topic not number one. Uh you're saying, and John, you're with John Lott in one of the one of the great minds when it comes to uh gun rights that if somebody is accused by someone else of committing some wrongful act to take away fundamental constitutional rights, which is a restraining order dealing with TV, and you give up the rights without trial, that's a problem. Is that your point? It is a huge Yeah, it is a huge problem. And I mean not in the fact that this guy didn't get you

know, do process. This is an underlying issue to the Supreme Court case. Right Like I said, it's a separate, separate reason it's gone to the Supreme Court. And I wish that I could tell you that I was a judge of which way it's going to go, And I can't even tell you because, to be in my humble opinion, I don't feel like Raheeman lawyer did a very good job in that. But that's a different conversation.

But at the end of the day, one of the things that threw me into this entire gun rights thing was a law in Washington State called sixteen thirty nine. A lot of people knew about it, and where when you sign your background check, you're forty four to seventy three to have a background check on It was a waiver of your medical record, and somebody could be denied the purchase of a fire arm based on what they looked what they were seeing

in the medical record. And you and I both know they weren't looking for a broken arm. They were looking for some reason to justify a red flag law on someone later. And I thought, well, we'll wait a minute. You know that's going to prevent women from going to get therapy that are abuse for guns and so on. Well, that just leads back into everything that is related to this case in terms of Brahemi and these restraining orders. You know, my ex and my abuser stopped me on that restraining order.

He figured out how to do it just to skirt the law. And you know where he may obtained guns, you know, if he was a prohibit person a bill. Tell me how he got a gun? How did that possibly happen? Bad guy? He mean, the bad guy got a gun. Weird, Huh. It may happen all the time. I'm not sure. But if he if for Hemi, if he wanted the gun, he would get a gun. And that little piece of paper is completely irrelevant. And uh, well, we'll see what happens. What is your website.

It's crimes Crime Research Center dot org. Has had to get all the information objectively correct Crimeresearch dot org. And you can find the Amigas brief on probably the homepage. I believe it's still on the homepage, and that in that Amikas brief is where you can find not only our argument for this law not being good law and that they should side with Forhemi, but additionally all of the data and the table and research that John Painstaking and his team painstakely put

into proving that restraining order you do not actually keep them safe. Now, what does keep you safe is a p. Two thirty eight. Six hour properly used by a woman who may be the victim of something. Now that will keep that will keep you safe. Not a piece of paper. Man, here's a piece of paper. Don't beat me, you don't hurt me. No, here's a six hour get ready for six, get ready for six coming your way. Now, that'll stop it right there, or prevented

from happening all together. If they know you got it. Yeah, Well, well, forewarned is forearmed. But you got to be all right. You got to look after your own self much like your own health. Got to look after your own health well. Once again Carrie Sloan of Executive Director for Education the Center of the Crime Prevention Research John Lott's organization, once again carry Sloan, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Will do

it again. Thank you, Kerry, Thank you, sir, Thank your Let's continue with more if a line ever becomes available, which it never does. Eight six six six four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you every Sunday it happens to you. Listen to the

Sorry Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Good to heavy with me. This evening, and it was said we started off a couple hours ago with Congressman brad Winstrip of Ohio, one of the top ten most most influential and powerful congressman announcing announced it on Thursday first interviews here that he can't take it anymore, wants to spend more time with his family. I get that completely.

Plus I want to thank David Johnson, author of the Diversity con how DEI is convincing large numbers of Americans that six month old babies and children can be racist. You have to raise an anti racist baby. And for some reason, if you have work you want to do with some of the big multinationals like Target or Walmart, you have to demonstrate, as a small provider of

a good or service to those large multinationals that you're DEI compliant. So that the cancer cells of diversity, equity inclusion is now working their way down into the body politic of every economic institution in the country. And also tonight, about three or four hours ago, Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina announced that he's vacating. The president will run this year, and that leads Christy leaves the governor of Florida. Of course, Ron Desandis and leads US Ambassador Hailey,

and of course of ak Ramaswami, and that's about it. So it's kind of getting out. It's kind of slowing down a little bit. But I know one thing that we are in deep trouble everywhere I look. Seventy seven percent of the American people say we're on the wrong track. The college campuses are erupting in violence against Jews. That thank god, winter is coming, so the rioting in major cities may go down a bit because it's too

cold to riot. The drudg Report has this story tonight. By the way, I think largely the Drudge Report has lost its way that many immigrants in Chicago are leaving Chicago because to them it is unpleasant and they're going to go back to their home countries. So that's the way it is well unbelievable. I pray to God that he's not diverted somewhere else, because we need divine

providence and guidance right now more than we have in many decades. Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night.

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