Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 1/7/2024

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every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill Cunningham, Sorry, Billy Cunningham, the great American. This glorious January the seventh throughout the nation you may remember, may recall this is my mother's birthday, January the seventh, and she's not with us anymore. But every January the seventh I

always acknowledge the important role she had in my life. And if she's not in heaven, there's not one and I believe there is. So Mary Ellen Cunningham, thank you for all that you've done to me on this January the seventh, and I commemorate your birthday more or less, even though you're not on this earth anymore, you're in the arms of God Almighty. Well let's continue. As you know, this is the first Sunday of the year that you and I have been together in a sense, although New Year's Eve bled

over in a sense to twenty twenty four. But watching all these Sunday morning talk shows and things of that character, my god, are we in for one rough ride? Reminds me almost of nineteen sixty eight with all the assassinations and the riots and the Vietnam War. None of that's going on now. We've had no assassinations, were we're in skirmishes all over the place, and there aren't a thousand Americans being killed every week in Vietnam, so that's a

positive. Nonetheless, we're more at risk now, I think, as a great American than we've been at any time in the last I don't know, fifty five years. It's unbelievable how divided we are. According to one poll that Danny Gleese and my producer brought to my attention, there's about seven percent of the American people believe that we have good political leadership. Think seven percent

think we have good political leadership. Democrats, Republicans, Independence, and so many Americans, maybe you're one of them, have turned off to politics greatly because it is so childish, as sophomoric, it doesn't relate with the American people want in need is disconnect. About seventy percent of Democrats say they don't want Joe Biden to be their nominee. Seventy percent of Democrats, and that's getting worse. Muslim support has collapsed, black mails are going to vote for

Donald Trump in largely increasing numbers. The espanding vote is going to bleed toward Donald Trump. In fact, I can't imagine a circumstance confusing. I'd like to know, how does that seven percent? Why does seven percent think we have good political leadership? But anyway that there is unrest in the land, and a lot of polling's been done, and I've shared it with you the last Sunday night, which is about thirty five percent of us think Joe Biden

has done a good job as president. I'm amazed at that thirty five percent. Who in the hell are they that thirty five percent? It's it's incredible. And here we sit about fifty percent of Republicans don't want Donald Trump.

Not because his policies didn't work, of course they did. It's all the other peccadillos, all the lawsuits, things in that character, what the Democratic Party has done to him, all claiming to be the party of democracy when they're trying to eliminate the opposition so only Democrats can run for political office.

It is really truly unbelievable. So tonight we have great guests coming up later and I want to thank my friend and yours, Sean Hannity, for taking some time out tonight to join you and I. And about an hour later on we also have Steve Gorham's giving us an update on what the Biden administration and also in California, what they want to do with natural gas appliance is they want to get rid of leaf blowers, get rid of gas grills,

not have new buildings that have natural gas, which is the best heat imaginable. One of the main reasons we have such a clean environment today is the continued use of natural gas instead of coal. Later on, also we have Eric Ruark of Numbers USA dot com about the collapse on the Southern border. There was some reporting this morning on Fox This Sunday that talked about the Biden administration, which is not Joe Biden. He's either on vacation or getting B

twelve shots. The guy has no clue what's happening. But the Praetorian guard around Joe Biden is willing to accept the deal, that is, to get the money necessary for the Ukraine. In Israel, they may have a stay in Mexico policy, which of course is permitted under the law that Trump used a great effect. Biden refuses to do so. So there was some reporting today that the praetorian guard around Joe Biden will agree to some teeth in Americans

immigration laws. That's Eric Ruark of numbers USA dot com. Bill addressed himself to that. Then, lastly, Kent Heck and Lively will be here. He's one of the co authors of Diversity con Secrets and Lies behind DEI, and so he wrote an excellent book on the topic about where did DEI come

from? It didn't exist ten years ago, twelve years ago. And he makes the rather a salient point that because American society has so few institutional race or sex problems anymore institutional, do individuals acting correctly absolutely toward women, toward

gays, toward African Americans, toward the lesbians, whatever. Yes, there's individual accimus conduct, but every state, every city, every county, the entire country of laws prohibiting it. And so about ten to fifteen years ago, especially after gay marriage was legalized in all fifty states by a five to four vote in US Supreme Court author by Justice Kennedy. Of course, the

civil rights movement could not simply say, you know what we've won. America right now is filled with good and component individuals of every race, every sexual orientation, every description. So it's time to disband and to go home and work on family life, which is the major problem in poor communities. Poor

communities difficulties or lack of father in the home. So Kent Heck and Lively makes the point that those in charge of all these moneies, all the corporate programs, all of Hollywood, late night TV, all the colleges and universities that gave us the defract Clydine Gay must have a rallying cry to keep people sending money in to make them believe things are worse than they truly are. And also we have to have the ability of people like Al Sharpton laughing under

his breath about all the racism he's trying to find. They have to get paid because this is a multi multi billion dollar industry, I said, billion dollar industry. The DEI, the affirmative action crowd ruled unconstitutional. Of course, racism was always wrong, it is wrong and will always be wrong.

But they couldn't simply go out of business and say okay. After twenty oh eight and that night in Grant Park when Barack Hussein Obama and Michelle walked out on the stage with those with their two daughters, and Jesse Jackson was crying those tears, thinking, oh my god, the gig is up. I can't continue the hoax of massive racism because to make so many of us rich that I've got to stop this thing. And maybe it's over because we have

a popularly elected black president. And Ken Hecklan Lively makes the point that, especially about twelve years ago when the US Supreme Court said gear marriage is fine, all these mechanisms, the machinery of DEI and affirmative action and the human rights campaign, they had to stay in business. They could not say, okay, let's go into communities, work hard, work smart, praise the Lord by whatever name you call him, and we have to have family structure

in place. They could have done that, but that did not happen. They came up with Diversity, Equity and Inclusion DEI, which all of us know is illegal and unconstitutional. The courts have regularly ruled that racial affirmative action cases must be narrowly tailored and they must go out of existence and justice. Roberts made the classic comment about seven years ago in one opinion that the way to stop race discrimination is to stop discriminating based upon race. Does that make

sense? Stop it? And so you can't say it is some Asian kid or some Hispanic girl that you don't qualify to go to University of Chicago or Harvard is if anybody today would really want to go there because of the color of your skin. See, the goal is a meritocracy. That is, a person has the opportunity to work hard, ork smart, go to school, not get married until you're capable of doing so. In fact, get married, then have children and have a family structure, which is the greatest

social welfare program in the history of America. Is an intact family that praises God. If you have that, statistics have shown African Americans from intact families have about the same poverty rate, which is about four percent as any other family. If the mom and the dad work and stay together and help kids with homework, have kids brought into the world they can afford and love that fathers can sit on sons and mothers can tell daughters what they have to do.

America would be much better off. But see, that doesn't fit Marxism, it doesn't fit progressivism, it doesn't fit exactly the leftist, progressive Marxist view of what America should look like. And because of the tech revolution, because of the billions and billions of dollars from the Tides Foundation, from the Ford Foundation, from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, from Berkshire Hathaway, billions of dollars have got to be given away. And guess what They're really not

given away to right to life groups. They're not given away to Catholic charities or to groups that assist the Jewish Federation. They're not given away to those

groups. They're given away to DEI causes and so in today's world, and this will be pointed out by Kent Heck and Lively, the author of Diversity KHN that the three most prominent black women in America today at this point are people like Justice Kintanji Jack, the Justice who doesn't know what a woman is, or Vice President Kamala Harris, who was selected because of her genderine race, that is the borders are who I don't think has ever been to the

border, has no clue what's going on. And the third best known as Claudine Gay, who never wrote a book, plagiarized about fourteen articles. Suddenly she was DEI compliant and became the president of Harvard University. And so a lot of the Jesse Jackson, the Al Sharpton types. The Black Lives Matter crowd believes that any criticism of a black woman is based upon race or sex. Now that is not the case when it comes to Justice Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas, his story is truly unbelievable. I've had on a judge in the sixth Circuit that wrote a book about him. He's been my guest twice over the years when he wrote a book, What a fabulous story. The criticisms of Kamala Harris are always racial. Well, the criticisms of Justice Clarence Thomas are somehow justified because of politics. So race is the vehicle that gets

you to where you got, get to the Promised land. But if a black conservative like a Clarence Thomas or a Thomas soul makes a whole bunch of sense, you better find something to tear him down, ignore his race. So when the DEI and the civil rights crowd gives permission to go after a condoleez Or Rice, or gives permission to go after a Clarence Thomas, race has race is not even a speed bump. They ignore race when it fits

a particular political purpose. We've had many great black females who were selected because of a meritocracy, not because of sexism or racism. You and I both know that discrimination is wrong. Invidious discrimination is wrong, and it should not be practiced. I think a Congressman Barbara Jordan, who fifty years ago was a proud Texas congresswoman who got there because of merit. I think as Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice and a lot of criticism of her and the civil rights

crowd never got on her side to defend her. And then locally in my world in little Cincinnati, Ohio, there's a black female judge named Melba Marsh who constantly gets elected by wide margins. All of them are highly qualified black females who succeeded because of merit. But when you're a Joe Biden and you want to select someone for political purposes, and you pick Kantanji Jackson and she

cannot answer a question of what is a woman? Or you pick Kamala Harris, you exclude everyone in the world, everyone in America that could be a vice president, Exclude them all. But with Kamala Harris, he said, going in, I'm going to pick a black female to be the vice president because she's capable of taking over my office on a moment's notice. Should believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is capable of serving as the president of the United

States of America. But when you criticize her for her performance, it becomes racial. When you criticize doctor Claudine Gay, who's a liar and a plagiarizer, that becomes racial. But when you go after Clarence Thomas, none of

that's ever racial. How absurd, how ridiculous. And so we look at a situation now this year, we're all hell's about to break loose, and it's because we live in a world in which the media picks winners and losers that the court system is going to have to solve some intractable difficulties because of all the efforts by solely Democrats to act in an anti democratic way. I'd say this, when the Democratic Party accuses the Republicans of engaging in some nefarious

behavior, they are themselves doing exactly the same thing. They're blaming Republicans for engaging in their behavior. All you heard Joe Biden talk about on Friday from Valley Forge was about democracy is on the ballot. So that means that democracy as defined by Joe Biden requires you to vote for liberal Democrats who've given us the southern border, given us the failures in Ukraine and Israel by the Biden administration, giving us the failures in major cities and public education, calling it

democracy. Whenever Joe Biden talks about the Republicans are engaging in terrible behavior, it's because they, the Democrats, have done it already. Let's take a short break. If a line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. When you criticize a black female for her behavior, that's racial. When you go after Clarence Thomas because of his alleged behavior, that

is never racist? Why is that? It's an unbelievable tale. And trying to watch some of the morning talk shows today, they stayed away a lot from Clyding Gay because she's a liar and a plagiarer who got a golden parachute of one million dollars a year because she is DEEI certified. I like to think they could have found a black female completely qualified other than someone who's a

liar and a plagiarizer to be the president of Harvard University. And of course right now the leftists are all complaining, essentially, you know what we have to do. We have to pick another black female. Sad you should not be judged by the color of your skin, but by the content of your character, and Clyding Gay had absolutely none. Let's continue if a line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven Bill Cunningham, The

Grant American with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue. And so I have to develop the idea with you tonight that chaos is what Liza ahead. I am going to quiz Sean Hannity on this in about thirty five minutes. I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell that Joe Biden is going to be the nominee of the Democrat Party to stand for a re election

on November the fifth, he's two. Did you see the video of him after the Valley Ford's speech lost again on stage and doctor Joe Biden had to take him by the elbow and lead him off stage. Then there's video of him trying to get into the Beast and a secret Service agent or someone else had to take him by the elbow to direct him to where he had to go. And as a family that has been riddled with Alzheimer's, I understand it is difficult to deal with that. Every family knows someone or will be

effective by someone with all Alzheimer's. It's terrible. That doesn't mean you should be the president of the United States. And basically Kamala Harris's insurance policy is like Geico to make sure that they don't replace Joe Biden. But he's not going to make it the next nine or ten or eleven months. He won't be able to campaign. He didn't campaign in twenty sixteen when he was in better shape, I'm sorry twenty twenty, when he was in better shape mentally.

He couldn't campaign then, and the media gave him a Texas l passo because they wanted to get rid of Donald Trump. So badly. Chaos is what's going to happen this entire year. Whether Trump is elected or Biden is elected, there will be total, complete chaos. And as we continue, I'm going to play out both scenarios for you and lay out what I think is going to happen between now and November the fifth. The convention, as you may know, for the Democrats is back to Chicago all in nineteen sixty

eight, a complete disaster. And who's going to be there Barack Obama this is his third term in office, and Michelle and many other Democratic alcoholtes, including David Axelrod who lives in Chicago, who thinks Joe Biden how to retirement? Let's continue with more Jill Cunningham, the Great American with you and all of the great Americans every summer by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. Coming

up in about thirty minutes is the Great Sean Hannity. We talk about all issues relative to his vacation leaving New York City and going to Florida for his TV and for his radio show. Is you know Shawn and I go back decades, have been friends for a very long time. I want to quiz him as to why he's doing it, what were the reasons, and also

his predictions, what's going to happen in the future and more. The key point it appears that Joe Biden wants to convince you of another lie, that democracy is on the ballot, that the Democrats are defending democracy, and that the Republicans couldn't care less about democracy. They care about dictatorship, they care about presidential power, and they don't care whatsoever about democracy in the democratic context.

Do you believe that, I don't think so. In fact, the speech on Friday and Valley Forge, he started out that is Joe Biden reading a teleprompter poorly by denouncing how the Donald Trump campaign is only about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is obsessed with a past while he's concerned about the future. And then most of the speech at Valley Forge spend virtually the entire speech obsessing about Donald Trump. That's Biden talking about Donald Trump. It's Donald Trump

and also about January sixth, twenty twenty one and Charlottesville. And so the president who says the campaigns about the future is talking about the past. Biden who said that Trump only cares about Trump and he's obsessed with the past, spent virtually all the speech obsessing about Trump in the past. It was really unbelievable, And so Biden spoke about how Democrats are fighting for your right to vote and as a consequence, they want to have free and unfettered access to

the ballot. We'll just step back. We had a couple of debates in Iowa. The Iowa caucuses are eight days away, and so far on the Republican side, the Republican Party has made sure that there's a full throat at debate going on inside the Republican Party in which there are debates, there's regular appearances of many that you have. Of course, Governor DeSantis is running and

he's on the campaign trail giving out his viewpoints. You have other Republicans such as Nikki Hayley who's on the campaign trail, having debates, having six and seven events per day. These are Republicans who don't care about democracy meeting with voters. And then you have Vivek Ramaswami from my hometown of Cincinnati, is

still debating and campaigning along with Chris Christie. So it began with about twelve candidates, the Republicans who don't care about democracy, don't care about talking to voters, having a robust debate, including Donald Trump, that dominates the media every time he says or does something. You have all these Republicans meeting with voters and doing everything in their power. On the Democratic side, guess what

you have. Dozens of Democratic officials have sought to remove from the ballot one hundred and twenty six Republicans from Congress on the basis that they were supporting an insurrection. And the Pennsylvania you have a lawsuit filed by Democratic activists to take away the ability of Congressman Scott Perry in Pennsylvania to actually be on the ballot. So the Republicans are having debate, the Democrats are filing lawsuits to keep

Republicans off the ballot, on and on and on. In fact, in Florida, there was an effort in Florida to have a primary, but Florida has called its Democratic primary already for Joe Biden and blocked opposing candidates from running

in the state of Florida. On the Democratic side, on the primary, and two thirds of Democrats won an alternative to Joe Biden, but the Democratic Party says no, there'll be no voting so one party is conducting a campaign season, the other party is suing, and like in North Carolina, having the Democratic committees in North Carolina and New Hampshire and Florida say there'll be no voting. And so who complains about the right to vote? It's the Democrats

who institute no right to vote for president. You have, believe it or not, Congressman Dean Phillips of Minnesota wants to be in a primary battle with Joe Biden. You have Marianne Williamson, you have RFK Jr. So the Democrats who complain about a lack of voting is making sure that fewer people vote. And the Republicans, blamed by the Democrats don't care about democracy, are actually conducting a campaign. And I think more and more people are figuring it

out. North Carolina Democrats became the latest to bar anyone except Joe Biden from getting on their presidential ballot. They don't want votes, they don't want voters, they want none of it. So even more galling is the fact that what the Democratic Party has done to the greatest president of my lifetime, that

of course would be Donald Trump, because she was successful. There were meetings held directly and indirectly saying what do we do and how do we do it to take away the right of seventy four million Americans to vote for Donald Trump. I thought the Democratic Party, the whole campaign, according to the feckless

one Joe Biden, is going to be about democracy. Democracy is on the ballot, but the Democratic Party itself won't let Democrats vote, while the Republican Party has many candidates in the caucus and the voting starts in about eight days. So it began, of course in New York City with Alvin Briggs, who filed criminal charges against Donald Trump about nine or ten months ago to get him off the ballot, to get him convicted because of the payments to Stormy

Daniels. Allegedly, Alvin Braggs believes that the money's given to Stormy Daniels to buy her silence should have been on a different form than Donald Trump put the amount paid to her down. It should have been on a different form. That began campaign finance irregularities. So Alan Braggs, New York City wants to

make sure that you don't have the right to vote for Donald Trump. Right behind him, here comes Fannie Willis, who's the Fulton County prosecutor, who claims there was a telephone call which you've all heard and which at no point did Donald Trump say, corruptly find the eleven thousand plus votes I need. It was a telephone call, and Fannie Willis has began a lengthy investigation, calling the attorneys, the electors, everyone involved in and around Atlanta to try

to prove that Donald Trump somehow is not fit to hold political office. Starting in twenty twenty four, and let's face it, take away your right to vote incomes Joe Biden. Joe Biden publicly said repeatedly that Mary Garland should file insurrection charge, which is against Donald Trump, taken away your right to vote

for the candidate of your choice. Now, when that began, the message was classified and given to Jack Smith, who's the hatchet man, and the Department of Justice that has, shall we say, a less than serious record when it comes to getting convictions for public figures, just asked Governor McDonald in the state of Virginia. He filed two sets of charges, having conducted lengthy

investigations. One involved in Florida, which is the classified document case in which he called in employees of mar Lago called in the attorneys, made them waive their attorney client privileged, got all this information about what Donald Trump did and when he did it, launched a year long investigation indicting him in Florida for mishandling a classified documents as if every Democratic office order within the sound of my

voice that's been in the executive branch of government is not that exactly the same thing. Then he hooked it up because his boss wanted it, which is Joe Biden and Merrick Garland full count indictment in Washington, d C. Involving obstruction of justice, not insurrection, and relative to his speech which he said,

go back down to the Capitol peacefully to protest. But nonetheless, the Democratic Party under Alvin Braggs, Fonnie Willis, Jack Smith, Mary Garland, and Joe Biden have filed all these ninety one count indictments federal and state that

would lock up Donald Trump for the rest of his natural life. And then, of course Letitia James became a civil procedure in which she's seeking through a compliant state court judge, to fine Donald Trump three hundred and fifty to five hundred million dollars for making false statements on real estate appraisal forms, which has never been filed in her office against anybody in the history of New York State.

Addition of that, an addition to that, Colorado Supreme Court ruled about two weeks ago, in a four to three highly partisan decision, that Trump needs to get off the ballot. In Colorado, the main Secretary of State, Sheena Bellows, did exactly the same thing, just ordered him off the ballot. So the party that complains about the behavior of Republicans that's anti democratic is the party working overtime to take away your right to vote. Whether it's

North Carolina, whether it's New Hampshire, whether it's Florida. They don't want Democrats to have an option to vote for someone other than Joe Biden. And when it comes to the general election, their goal was to get this thing decided in such a way that Donald Trump either cannot run will be so damaged

by a guilty verdict that he will not be re elected president. So the party that cares about voting takes away your right to vote then quickly blames the Republics for engaging in their behavior, and the media just doesn't call him out on it, but of course I just did. Now, going forward, let's talk about some Donald Trump land mines that lie ahead that could keep the rest of seven year old Donald Trump is anything but in good health. But

I look at the problems and the pressure that he's under. He's facing three hundred and eighty five years in prison. He's facing the destruction of his business empire to be decided by liberals and Marxists living in New York City, in Washington, d C. And Atlanta, Georgia. If and when he comes to trial, is there a snowballs chance in hell that any of those jurors are going to find Donald Trump not guilty. No, his health long term.

The guy is first full year in office. If he's reelected, he'll be eighty years old, and he's a sharp as a whip right now. But I'm concerned about his health. In addition to all these hundreds of millions of dollars being spent in legal fees, he also has the circumstances of an empire, a family of business to run. And I worry number one about his health and I pray to God he stays healthy. Number two. If he's convicted of almost anything criminally, it's not the stuff for New York City

with the judge that every time he's indicted, his ratings go up. But if he's actually tried, and that's unlikely, but it's possible because the Democrats are pushing for the trial before election day November fifth of this year. Acting is if this is completely non political, but they got to get the verdict before the election. They know that if he's tried before a Washington d c. Jury, the odds of conviction irrespective of facts in law or above ninety

five percent, or City of Atlanta jury or New York City jury. And about twenty percent of the American people say they would not vote for the Donald if he is convicted of a crime. And this is going to be a razor close election. He's up now seven or eight percentage points. So if he's convicted of something, and for political purposes, the party that cares about democracy is pushing hard to get the verdict done and in by the summer of

this year. Thirdly, if abortion continues to be a big issue. It kind of died off a little bit, and if it comes back strong, suburbanites will vote against Donald Trump because of abortion. And lastly, this is the wild card. It's now July and August. Joe Biden has fallen down steps. He's babbling incessantly, can't find his way off stage. The power brokers the Democratic Party gets together and they say, look, Donald Trump has

not been convicted. Donald Trump abortion the issue doesn't appear to have the same residence as it did two years ago, and his health's pretty good. Michelle Obama needs to be the nominee of the party that shuts out Kamala Harris for

the race card, and so in August in Chicago trump Land. Minds, if Trump otherwise makes it through all the bs of all the prosecutors and all the judges and democratically controlled areas, wins before the US Supreme Court gets on the ballot, all that happens here comes Michelle Obama as the nominee of the Democrat Party and just pick some senator to be the vice president in a way

you go. Suburbanites will go crazy, and Michelle Obama fearfully. I guess the Trumpster could beat her, but the media coverage would be similar to what her husband received. And it's a consequence. Michelle Obama once again will be restored to power with Barack Hussain Obama, who's been in charge the last three years. So we're going to have at least four terms, maybe five terms of Barack Hussein Obama. Remember the guy who said not blue America, not

read America, the United States of America. He quickly got rid of that stuff once he got into office and his ratings went down. And so the Trump land minds his personal health. I pray to god he stays healthy. Secondly convicted of something which will cause a chunk of the electorate to not vote for him, abortion once again being a big issue for some reason, or

Michelle Obama's the nominee, in which case Biden's pulling. Right now, the trump Sters up about eight percentage points on Biden, and it's going to get worse for Biden, not better. The only solution is to have the federal courts intervene, to delay the so called trials until after the election, and to or like hell, to make sure that Donald Trump's health remains solid. So the party that cares about voting wants to make sure you don't vote,

and you can't select the candidate of your choice either way in November. If it's November sixth or seventh, and Donald Trump and or the Democrats been declared the winner, whoever the Democrat might be, and the interchangeable drill bit of the Democratic Party, just pick one. We're going to have complete and utter

chaos. If it's the Trumpster. The media is going to go batcrap crazy about going after Trump even harder, and it will be almost impossible for him to get a whole bunch of individuals to serve in his cabinet because they're going to fear impeachment or lawsuits or whatever. The country will be in complete chaos. Is all the lawsuits are delayed for the next four years, and the

media doubles down on their hatred of Donald Trump. But the country will have good policies that will help us on the southern border with taxes and spending and with police. On the other hand, if the Democrat wins in twenty twenty four, we have total chaos again on the southern border and the cities like Oakland emptying out, Portland collapsing, Chicago collapsing. We have total chaos. With Trump, we have chaos and a better country. With the Democrat,

we have chaos in a worse country. That's why I pray to God and lit a candle today at Saint Williams in Naples, Florida, that somehow Donald Trump can win the presidency. Put up with the crap he's got to put up with, but most importantly, what has to happen the country will be better off. Let's continue with more. Coming up in a few minutes will be Sean Hannity, Bill cunning and The Great American with you Every Sunday by

Billy Cunningham, The Great American once again. If Trump is elected, utter chaos is going to be brutal, but the country is going to be better

off because his policies work. If, on the other hand, Biden, Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Givin Newsom is elected president, continuing the same policies we've been experiencing, we have complete and other utter chaos, and the country is worse all May God bless Donald Trump, Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Willie rough You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot

com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards, for he is broadcast exodence, the one and only Bill Cunningham, Shy Billy Cunningham, the Great America.

And there have been historical moments. When Caesar crossed the Rubicon, the river in northern Italy and brought the Roman army into the city, all hell broke loose, and several days ago the Great Sean Hannity announced to his multitudes of fans and friends that he'd decided to fors sake Long Island, Fort, for sake, Manhattan, and the head to the sunny beaches of Florida where he's got to. I'm sure a good set up with so many helping him doing

what he must be done. And Sean Hannity, all I can say is, do you feel like Julius Caesar or do you feel like John Stuart is out in apology? Because I watched last night, I watched a couple of nights ago, and you had John Stewart begging you to stay eight years ago. Can you tell the American people why Sean Hannity left his birthplace? Yeah? First of all, Bill Cunningham, Happy New Year, God bless you, God bless America is great to check in with you for the new year,

because we need a full report. America is hanging by a thread and we're counting on you to pulls across the finish line. The great people of Ohio, we need them. We trust that they're going to go in the right direction. My prediction, Bill Cunningham, we may have an election won by as a little as two hundred thousand votes in six separate states. Who knows what's going to happen. Anyone that says they know is full of it.

With that said, yes, I pulled the trigger. I've been threatening to do this for a long time, and you know, for all the obvious reasons. It's funny because yesterday you HA came out with their migration statistics and they're the same now the last three years, and people are leaving California, New York, Michigan, Illinois, and New Jersey and they're going to states Texas and Florida again one and two, followed by the Carolinas and Tennessee.

And people are voting with their feet and they're saying they've had enough of high taxes, they've had enough burdens and regulation, They've had had it with their rights being oppressed. They've had it with bad schools, high crime rates, just defund dismantled, no bail laws. It's insane. It's like New York City. It's become like a free fraud. I don't know the last time you've been there. I've been in New York City with you at a

time when you could pretty much safely walk the streets. It's not the case anymore. If you can't do it, if you needed a guest, I was sixteen seventeen blocks away from twenty ninth and sixth. I walked straight up. Maybe at seven thirty quarter late, we would do the show. Maybe Jerry Springer dearly departed. I don't agree with his politics, but he was a good guy. The Great Debate. He was a great guy. I remember we had the Big debate. Yeah, see, he's wonderful. You

know. It just doesn't think right. And then to walk down back twenty blocks on sixth Avenue at ten o'clock at night, no problem. I felt as warm as in my mother's arms. So policies caused it, and policies can solve it. But I would think to get me out of Deer Park, to get me out of Cincinnati to get me to live in another state.

I mean, that's got to be. It was more difficult or more easy than you thought to finally become a refugee in Florida, you know, Unlike you, I was, like, you know, a traveling radio journeyman. And you know, for example, I live. I grew up in Long Island, but I was gone for sixteen years, five years in Rhode Island, five years in California, two years in in Punchville, Alabama,

four years Atlanta, Georgia. And then in nineteen ninety six, I got the call from Roger L's They're putting on a brand new channel called the Fox News Channel. I'm now in my twenty eighth year. Bill Cunningham, if you would have made that bet twenty eight years ago that I'd be the lone survivor in primetime cable and the longest running primetime cable news host in the history

of cable news, that would have been a horrible bet, sir. Why why do you say there's many are called, but few have been chosen. We got to get onto the issues, Cloudinge Gay and Kamala Harrison. But many are called, many are but few have been chosen. What is it about you that has made a connection for almost thirty years and almost forty years in radio? What is the connection that you have to regular god fearing Americans that others maybe don't you know? Actually, you gave me the answer in

your question God fearing Americans. You know, I have said this my entire career. Nobody believes me when I say it. I've learned and I've watched so many people come and go way more talented, more funny, smarter than I am. You know, incredible intellectual knowledge and degrees. But yet you know a lot of people seem to have this self destruct button. It's not healthy to be famous. I say it all the time, And I think two things have kept me grounded. Number one, my very strong belief in

God, and it is real. And number two, you know the fact that I was twelve years old washing dishes and thirteen of cook and did all ten years in the restaurant business and ten years in construction. That was real work, and it kept me grounded. And you know, I get on my knees every day and I thank God for what I consider an undeserved life. Billy Cunningham, I've you and I people like us. We have been

blessed beyond what we deserve. It's that simple to me. Whenever I get around, You're and your clan, your sisters keep you in line too, and sweet baby, keep you in line. And I'm always reminded of of great Roman generals coming back from gaul and there'd be a slave in the in the chariot saying, oh yes, but famous fleeting, And boy is that the truth. And so when you have a good family structure, you got sis, but you got sisters, you got your in laws, you got

your group. It kind of My sister just tried to call while we were talking, and you know, sweet Baby, James is standing, you know, five feet away from me. Billy Cunningham says, hello, But you're a great American bolt hunting them this. Do you consider what you do to be work? I mean no, no. If I didn't get paid to

do what I do, I probably still do it anyway. One day when they take this microphone or rip it away from me or take away that camera, uh, I probably going to drive around in the car and start doing a talk show host for myself. And I'll do the host that I'll be the caller and then they're gonna want to put me away in a funny farm somewhere, probably deservedly so. But on a serious note, we have been through how many election cycles together? How many years did we go out and

campaign in Ohio and Florida and Pennsylvania and asively done dozens a lot. I loved it. But Sean Hannity, this election, I think we when we when we text. If Trump is re elected, there's going to be total chaos, more indictments, more lawsuits, more media coverage. On the other hand, his policies work. But on the other hand, if the interchangeable drill bit takes over in November, it could be Biden. I doubt it.

It could be Michelle, it could be god knows who. Kevin Knwsom did that great debate a couple of weeks ago, and then we're gonna have chaos. By the way I did that, I did that on purpose. Sure Joe's going to be the guy. And the reason that I first did the interview with Gavin followed up by the debate with Governor DeSantis, who's you know, a great governor. I'm glad to have finally a governor that I like. I will tell you. I was warning people, you've got to

look beyond Joe Biden and what and know what's out there now. Gavin didn't answer my questions. I thought the statistics. I did a fact based debate, all right, here are the statistics on homelessness, here are the numbers of illegal immigrants. Here's what it's costing your estate. Here's your budget, here's this budget, here's crime statistics. And it was fact based, and frankly, the numbers in Florida are just infinitely better than those in California.

And people said, well, that was unfair. I said, well, if you don't like the numbers, change the policy. Don't blame the messenger. But I do think that there is a possibility that we're going to see at the Democratic National Committee convention rout a possible you know, swap out joke.

I could see any scenario where Joe would come out and say I'm not up to the I don't think I can run, and then the powers that be the Apparatrick would then make the choice for the for the Democratic Party, and I think Gavins would be right up there, and Kamala Harris could be easily shut aside by someone like Michelle Obama, and that's going to be one

hell of a fight. We've had interesting elections in the past, Sean Hannity, and nothing is going to get us ready for what's happening now because they've thrown everything at Donald Trump and the kitchen sink and it's not worked at this point. Every amazing, Yes, yes, how are when you think about this, this man, you know it goes It defies all conventional political gravity. We've been doing our jobs. I'm now in by what thirty fourth year

in radio. I think you've got me beat by a few years. And we've never seen anything like this, and I don't we're never going to see anything like it again in our lifetime. And yet every single indictment ends up with higher poll numbers, every arrayment higher poll numbers. Can you explain that, Billy Cunningham? But as I can't, people have figured it out. They understand that Democrats, for example, can do exactly the same thing, in fact ten times the same thing, and it's put off to the side,

it's under investigation. But the same treatment they gave Ronald Reagan Bush forty one, Bush forty three Trump before he got to office is consistent. But now it's metastasized. This Trump phenomenon is such that they have to make sure he can't stand for re election because everything they got control of the checkbook, Sean Hannity. Right now the Democrats are riting the checks, and they don't want to stop writing the checks, and they want the southern border to be

open. Imagine we texted on this. Imagine five years from now, we're completing the first Michelle Obama term of the first Gavin new Then it goes four more years. Say we got nine years more of exactly the same policies that Biden has on the southern border and on spending, and on the cities and public education. What does America look like in nine years with the same policy

That would be unrecognizable. That would not be the country that we grew up in, a country that believed in freedom and liberty and capitalism and hard work being rewarded. All of those things would just disappear. Look the greatest threat. Most people have not paid attention to what's going on at the southern border. By the way, this should be an impeachable offense. Joe Biden swore an oath to uphold our Constitution that means enforcing the laws of the land.

I'm all for immigration. I just want to I want a background check, I want a health check, and you know, I want a means test so we know people are not going to be a burden on there on the new country that they're entering. Other than that, Welcome to our country, go for it, Welcome to freedom. You know, we hope you make the best out of it, but we're not doing that. Eight and a half million people, Billy Cunningham. In three years, this guy has allowed

unvetted people. Hundreds from Iran, hundreds from Syria, thousands from Egypt, home of the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran the number one state sponsor of terror their satellite Syria. You have thousands from Afghanistan, home of al Qaida. You've got twelve thousand plus from Russia or number two geopolitical foe, twenty six thousand from China. Billy Cunningham. That's a lot of illegal immigrants. Why are these people traveling all across the globe to show up at our southern border.

Is it because they want a better life for themselves and their family or maybe some of them, maybe a tiny percentage, but enough of them have intentions to hurt our country and hurt the people of this great country. That's what scares me. Under Joe Biden, New York City has eight point five million people in the ninety five or percent or higher are great Americans. I went into that city in twenty eleven, thinking I was there once in my life.

I said, this is going to be awful. When I left in twenty fifteen, on a regular basis, I said, boy, there are some great people that live in New York. But in the last three years there's been about eight million illegals come into America, which is the size of New York City. And that's only the beginning. I'm waiting for my YORKA. So I guess the impeachment thing is going to be filed at some point to say, you know, what is one hundred million, is it fifty

million, is it two hundred million? What's the number we can allow in? It doesn't stop. Well, I mean, did you see him yesterday? Yesterday he blamed the environment, he blamed Trump, he blamed Abbot, he blamed you know, everything but himself. Now, on the other hand, this is the same guy, along with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden that repeatedly lied to all of us by saying that the border is closed, in

the border secure. Stop lying. I hate being lied to. You know, if your kids, if my kids do something stupid, and you know my kids, I'm fine with that. I made a few dumb decisions when I was young. But if you plaid out lie to me, then you're really going to be in trouble. I can't stand it. Yea, so h yeah, And now they're going to sue Greg Abbott. I had Abbott on TV last night, you know, pursuing him because he's doing their job

and enforcing the law. But back to the Constitution. Now, if you or I or anybody you know in the great city of Cincinnati, the home of Skyline Chili, which, by the way, I can buy frozen spaghetti, Skyline Chili and public right down here in Florida where I live my new home, and I've already had two h Sweet baby, James, you can pull it out. I'll take a picture and send it to your Billy Cunningham. I stock up on Skyline Chile and spaghetti. You're and it's only and

because I want to keep my weight down. Whatever. But anyway, long story we can save this country. Sure, there's nobody that can tell you with any degree of certainty what's going to happen in November. I can tell you what's going to lead up to November. And what's what we're going to hear is Trump, Trump, Trump and how evil and dangerous he is. We're going to hear about January sixth at nauseum. Uh. We're going to hear the the about abortion day in and day out. And the people of

Ohio went out and voted, they made their decision. I think it happens to be politically. I'm not speaking morally where the country is. And I think Republicans need to take note of what the people of Ohio said on that referendum. And the last thing they're going to ever want to talk about is Joe's fell record, because he doesn't have a record of success, se said. Buckle up, Sean Hannity, you can add to that the traditional playbook

of Republicans are racist and sexist, and misogynistic and homophobic. You know the whole list of phobias. I don't have any phobias. I don't. I find racism repugnant, I find sexism repugnant. I believe God created every man, woman and child on this earth, Tilly Cunningham, and I believe it with all my heart. Sean Hannity to conclude, I would say this that

if we have the continuation of the Trump policies, America will flourish. If we continue the present policies, America is finished, done, over with and over my dead body. You and I need to be like William of Wallace with our intestines pulled out, yelling the word freedom, freedom. And you ask me why voters continue to want Trump back in office, because they figured it out as to what the Democrats have done to this country are not for

the country. As William Wallace said, as he knew he might be walking into a trap, I've got to try. We've got to try what we've been doing in all these years. I want all those things I prayed to God for those things, you know, a family and children. And then he walked into what ultimately became his death. Bring down, bring down long Shanks, Long Shanks, must bring out Long Shanks. Long Shanks looks like

Joe Biden. Actually. Nonetheless, one of the greatest moments is when when his daughter in law whispers in his ear that she's pregnant and the child is not from his son. Absolutely, Sean Andy, congratulations, thanks for coming on again, and let's keep the line. Blessing No cunning and we need your voice this year. And God bless the people of Ohio, God bless the people in this country, and God bless America. My friend, ye're my best is sweet baby, thank you? All right, calculated big Dog

Fender, we love him too, by big Dog's the best. He likes to bark. All right, Let's continue with more, Sean, thank you. Let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven Bill cunning in the Great American Live with you every Sunday Night. By Billy Cunning in the Great American. I have related to you previously on my long association with the great Sean Hannity. Many made it on TV, but not radio. Many made it on radio or not

TV. But in my lifetime, no one has succeeded longer on radio and TV than Sean Hannity. So he, along with millions of others, are emptying out the Blue cities and the Blue States. Crime, homelessness, degeneration of society, and also high taxes, rules and regulations. That's why he left and came to Florida. And I hope he has a long sustained career in both. But Sean Hannah and I kind of agree on the big issue, and that is that Joe Biden, I'll be able to withstand what's going

to happen. He looked awful in Valley Forge after the speech as his wife helped him off stage and secret Service agents had to get him into the Beast before it was too late. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Jilly Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, welcome, Happy New Year and

all that kind of stuff. But the extreme isn't from the left, continues Steve gorm As, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of four great books on energy, climate change, and sustainable development, over one hundred thousand in print. And Steve's book, The Green Breakdown came out in August and after the last four or five months, it's the best seller.

And Steve Gorham, first of all, in twenty twenty four, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. I have so much to talk with you about. But the first thing is this I met I referenced to off the air that I read over New Year's a column from a twenty one year old female who says that she and her z friends are not going to have children. And I'm reading into this column, which is, by the way, quite lengthy, and it references the fact that the planet is dying. The

woman's name is Anna Lee. She's an intern at CNN, and she says, if temperatures weren't rising, I choose the name Athena for a girl. If the rivers are safe, I'd choose William for a boy. If I could breathe clean air on my morning commute, I'd paint the nursery a warm yellow. She goes on to say that she and Oliver gen Z buddies those born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve are done having children because the planet is dying. Were all going to be dust in the wind. May I

get your reaction first? Yeah, Happy New Year, Bill, Great to join you again. That's just such a very, very sad situation. We've had only one degree of warming since one degree, sells he has since eighteen eighty, one hundred and forty years have been many times in the past when it's been warmer, she's worried about her air being cleaned. But the air

is the cleanest there in probably eighty or one hundred years. We used to be burning coal in furnaces and homes, and there's just no evidence that her not having a child is going to have any effect on the climate. And all the other young people that are misguided about these issues. Well, and one other point in this column is that forty percent this isn't a fringe idea

among child bearing women. Forty percent in the University of Bath I think that's in England study, forty percent said that they will not have children because there's no future, no children. And among them, eighteen year old Emma Lynn said, quote, I'm giving up my dream of being a mother. I'm not going to necessarily kill my own children. It's like, it's just it's

terrible. She won't have the joy family. And when she gets to be seven years old and realizes that the climate hasn't been destroyed, she'll have no family. I mean, it just is very, very sad. And we have all these leaders running around the world spouting this stuff. It's just crazy. I mean, an example is John Carey at the recent COP twenty eight Climate conference, he said we shouldn't allow a coal plant anywhere in the world.

And that's just a just a radically crazy statement. The world gets thirty five percent of its electricity right now from cold fired power plants. We have four thousand of those plants out there, another a thousand are being built and planning. Yet we have an electricity shortage around the world. Seven hundred people don't have access to electricity. We have another two billion that have blackouts or brownouts every day or every other day. We have hundreds of hospitals that don't

have electricity. If you can imagine that, no air conditioning, no electricity for an operating room, and mister Carey's running around saying we have to get rid of all the electricity plants. I mean, it just is remarkable and very very sad, and it injures people, not only this woman in a wealthy nation, but all the people in poor nations around the world. Where does this come from, Steve Going, Where does it come from? I

think almost like an indoctrination. If somebody had been in Clyde Gay's classes at the Harvard before she became president for a few weeks and then lost her job. The radicalism is unbelievable. It's almost as if when kids come out of college we have to have like a deep programming school. We have to do something to get these children away from the indoctrination. But the first step has

got to be to stop the indoctrination. Any hope of that. I want to talk about air conditioning, But tell me about this, well, the phrases climatism. Climatism is an ideology. It's very powerful. It's the belief that humans are causing dangerous global warming, spouted by all the political leaders in the world, and it ought to be called what it is. It's a

powerful ideology, and unfortunately people believe this. This is the biggest, the biggest superstition in modern history, that a trace gas is causing dangerous global warming. And uh, it's it's just captured most everyone. It's very, very unfortunate. And the world is spending about a trillion dollars a year and they want to spend four or five trillion a year on renewables to try and try and stop the planet from warming, but that isn't going to have any effect.

Global warming continues to be dominated by natural factors, not man made emissions. And as far as I can recall, as a child, I live in little Cincinnati, Ohio, and Cincinnati is like in a bowl. A Cincinnati is like the basin, and on either side are the hills of Kentucky and then the rise of Ohio to the to the north, and in the middle is the city of Cincinnati. I can specifically recall small or smoke,

whatever you want to say, on the basin of Cincinnati. As a child, you could look out over from the University of Cincinnati, looked down on Cincinnati into Covington, Kentucky, and there'd be a permanent haze there in the winter time, a permanent haze. And my mother tells me about the horses, the cows, the mules dropping feces, thousands and thousands of mosquitoes and flies, people walking in it. Living in a small for three to five

months every year. Because of the coal fired power plants, the coal was delivered from the street into the basement then put into the furnaces. Can you Amaine? And that's the way it is the most of the world, correct, But not in America. Yeah, our pollutions down about ninety eight percent since the nineteen fifties. My grandfather had a coal furnace in his basement and he did the same thing. And in Chicago, after four or five days in the winter, after it snowed, you'd see a black film of coal

dust. And all these young folks who think the air so terrible does they don't know what spring cleaning was for. Or literally, in the nineteen fifties, everybody in the spring would wash the inside of their walls in their houses to take off the coal dust. I remember driving past Gary, Indiana, and if film covered our windows, we had to stop and wipe off our windows from the steel mills, or driving into southern California through the Mohave Desert

in the nineteen sixties and watching the smog roll up the desert. Our era is very very clean nowadays, and we need to continue to reduce that. By the way, we've done a terrific job, and that's because we put the scrubbers on our coal plants, and our volatile organic compounds out of automobile exhaust are down ninety eight percent since the nineteen seventies. So our era is

very very clean. But now everybody's doing handsprings over carbon dioxide which isn't a pollutant in any case, we admit about everybody breeds out about two pounds of carbon dioxide every single day and it makes the plants grow. So this is completely completely haywire that we have all these government leaders run round spouting things. You know, do you hear what missus Clinton said? Hillary Clinton, she wants to is she learned from COVID when every day we were posting deaths around

the world, every single day you could see it on the internet. Well, she wants to start posting climate deaths now and because there's been some heat waves. But she doesn't realize. Guess what, We're having fewer deaths because warm temperatures are better for people. So but you know, it just goes

on and on. Well, there was a story we got to talk about the what we're headed for in the green breakdown, But there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about Ford dealers having to spend a half a million to a million dollars each to become e compliant with Ford. And the Ford dealers are almost in rebellion because they can't sell evs. Explain what's happening there, because that's part of the green breakdown. I think, yeah, they're

having a revolt. The Ford dealers don't want to sell evs. GM has done a different thing. They're doing a buyout on all the dealers that don't want to do it because they want to force this on everybody. But it's no doubt electric vehicles have hit a speedmump. Inventories are up over three hundred percent of these these dealers. Ford Motor is losing forty to sixty thousand dollars on each EV sold we have. The price of used electric vehicles has dropped

thirty percent in the last year thirty percent. And oh, by the way, the federal government keeps pouring money into this. You know, there's a subsidy of up to seven thousand dollars if you buy an EV our tax dollars a tax credit, and then if you buy a used one, there's another up to four thousand dollars subsidy, and if that's sold again, there's another federal subsidy. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. Here. This crazy idea that if we all drive electric vehicles we can stop

the oceans from rising sounds like Obama. Well again, it's part of this big misconception, the superstition. And by the way, hey in Cincinnati or Chicago, it's cold weather and real tough to charge your EV right now, particularly outside. You got to run your you got to hit your garage all winter, which isn't very, very cost effective if you want to charge your

EV. Let's talk about the green breakdown that lies ahead. And part of your book deals with Okay, we're going to have a come to Jesus moment and what do you see coming? Twenty twenty four is here? What do you see coming between now and twenty thirty. Yeah, So the world is driving for a thing called net zero by twenty fifty. They want to get rid of all the coal, oil and natural gas. They want to force a way to drive electric vehicles, and they want get everybody to use electric

stoves instead of gas stoves. But we're already seeing a breakdown. I was predicting maybe a decade out, but we're seeing some of this now. Offshore win in the East Coast, about half of those projects say they can't make money and they've pulled out. In Germany, Zeeman's Wind Energy just got a ten billion euro bailout from the German government. We have this ev speed bump

slowdown, as we talked about. If you look at these stock markets, the renics industry, the Renics Index of the world's top renewable energy stocks, these things have been down three years in a row now, the renewable energy companies, and they continue to fall, and so you know, we're starting to see a problem. Despite all these efforts of governments to push all this stuff, the economics and the market factors are winning out, and we're going

to see a green breakdown. People are going to demand a return to low cost, reliable energy. They don't want to put up with higher electricity prices, they don't want to put up with electricity blackouts and the other problems that this transition is causing. Steve Gorman on one of the morning talk shows there was an expert that said, we're pumping more oil and natural gas than ever before. There was an environmentalist there who said, you know what, that

is a total, complete disaster. The indoctrination of the young, I think is But as far as going forward, assuming that this breakdown does occur, and I look what's happening around the world, and something's got to give because people cannot continue to pay four or five hundred dollars a month in electricity bills they can't afford. An ev minimum wage increases are heralded as if that's the

most you can ever make. And so looking down the road, when this morning we heard that we're pumping more oil and gas than ever and that's causing problems among the so called greens with Joe Biden. But as far as why is that happening in a climate in which he has at this point cut off so many permits, is this is it a good I think it's a great thing for pumping oil and gas. In fact, that we had more, the price would even come down further. But how the green movement wants to

know is Joe Biden on their side or on normal people side? What would you say about the pumping of all this oil? Well, everybody wants to be green until it hits their pocketbook, and it tends to be a big issue price of gasoline. It's still up a dollars and a half since when Trump left office, and mister Biden has done a lot of things to try and stop permits and stop drilling. But on the other hand, you know, he's kind of concerned about that and so are. We are the biggest

producer of oil. We're the biggest producer of natural gas in the world, and the biggest exporter of liquified natural gas, the biggest exporter of propane. We literally kept the lights on in Europe last winter. They would have had a blackouts all over the continent if we weren't shipping them liquified natural gas. And so these are really good things for people. It keeps their prices low. But we have a bunch of places that are going to suffer. New

England is one of those. They have blocked pipeline building through New York State to the east to New England states for many, many years. England is now importing a bunch of liquified natural gas at high world prices and winter you bills. Energy bills cost over one thousand dollars for an average size house in New England. And we're going to see we're going to see blackouts there we

get a real cold winter. So far, it hasn't been the case this winter and last winter either, but people are going to say, hey, enough of this. I don't want to see that the solar farm next to my house. I don't want to see those wind turbines blinking on and off. I want to hold on to my internal combustion engine car, and I don't want to have to get a heat pump that doesn't work in cold weather. Despite what all these leaders say, do you see di lithium crystals described

in Star Trek? How long will it be before we have like this unlimited amount of energy? Maybe it's cold nuclear fusion. I think Toyota is going the right way when it comes to hybrids, But nonetheless, at what point are we going to say, boy, we have dilithium crystals, everything's free, everything's available. How many decades will that take? Our centuries? Yeah, well, there are some possible possible technological advances that could have a nuclear

right now is too expensive. It needs some breakthroughs and costs, but there's there are opportunities there, possibly with small modular reactors or molten salt reactors. Geothermal is another possible place where we could come up with some things, but it's very, very tough to beat the low cost of natural gas, the fuels that come from petroleum. Today, ninety one percent of world transportation vehicles come from fuels from petroleum, another four percent from natural gas. Only three

percent from biofuels and about one percent from electricity. So these hydrocarbons continue to dominate our transportation. They also dominate all of our heavy industries, steel, plastic, cement, ammonia. And it's going to be decades and decades before these things are replaced, if ever now well, the book is The Green Breakdown, and I would encourage all young women to get married. I'd encourage young men to lead a wonderful girl and form a family life, have children.

Don't don't be filled with fear. This came out of money, because whenever there's an issue, follow the money. There's so much money involved in the so called green energy. All of us are against pollution, but all of us want cheap, reliable energy. I don't like pollution, and the pollution problem and developed countries have largely been solved. It's taken care of the rest of the world. And once again, Steve Gorm, thank you. And how do you get your book The Green Breakdown? How does that happen?

Yeah, if they go to my website, I'll send them a signed copy. Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com. It's also on Amazon and there are ebooks as well, Steve Gorm. You're the best on this topic. And once again let's start to new year off right by having Steve Gorm on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve, thank you very much for coming on. Thank you. Bill. All right, let's continue with more. Do you like your electricity, you like air conditioning,

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Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, over the past year, we've had record numbers on the southern border, and if you've listened to me, the Great American for a long period of time, there's two issues that are mortal dangers in this country. Number one is a thirty four trillion dollar accumulated national debt which is going up. Two trillion dollars a year. That makes all of our dollars funny money. And the other critical issue is

what's happening or not happening on the southern border. And maybe one fuels the other to one extent or another. But let's face it, when you have a record December of three hundred and two thousand illegals that are that are coming across the southern border, not counting the Goudaways and not counting other illegal activities, the country is experiencing an invasion like something we've not seen our in our

historical lifetime. It is unbelievable. And Eric grew Ark is with the numbers USA, one of the great organizations in the nation's capital, trying to adjust what's happening with the Southern border numbers. And Eric, first of all, Happy New Year, and welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can you tell the American people how is the proportionality of three hundred and two thousand compared to other months and years in which it's been equally bad. We'll happy new

year to you in your audience. You know, we talked a few weeks back about the I guess the October numbers and the Biden administration was crowing because the encounters were down, right, but they were down from a record month, right, So that we pointed out that's not really anything to brag about that you're not breaking a record every month, but we're back to breaking a record. You know, three hundred and two thousand encounters is an all time

Excuse me, it is an all time high for any month. And you know that it compares really only to previous months of the Biden administration. Now, we have had some which have approached that in years past, but that's been very seldom and presidents. The big difference is presidents have responded by doing something to stop that. You know, President Trump had surges that he dealt

with. President Obama had surges and he dealt with those as well, and so they realized that this is not good number one politically, but also there's this you know under Secretary I mean, I'm sorry to President Obama. You had Secretary j. Johnson who did recognize it was a crisis and did take steps to try to stem that crisis. You know, the administration's response, and this is a direct quote from the Press secretary on the December twenty third,

was this is not unusual. There's nothing really did be concerned about. Now the Republicans, the Speaker Johnson's leading a delegation. I believe there's sixty members of the House who are going with him, and so they're trying to bring attention to this an upcome, you know, in lieu of the upcoming fight over the budget the DHS, which comes due in February. And so Speaker Johnson and we've had support in the Senate among Republicans who have said without

bor security, there will be no funding. So we'll see if they hold tight to that. But you know, they understand the problem here. Americans

understand the problem. I think the Biden administration understands it as well, but they certainly don't seem to want to take any other than go on social media and tweet out that the border secure and there are consequences, you know, and their consequences for a few people, right, But ninety five percent of the people are getting in and most of them, you know, who are

showing up, are getting released into the interior by the Biden administration. And when I listened to these Democratic mayors Johnson and I listen to what's happening in Los Angeles, Portland, New York. I'm listening to these guys and even Democratic voters, and I watched the story out of Chicago this morning in which Grand Park's been overtaken by homeless camps, homeless and shelters, city parks,

sleeping on city streets. In New York, the Roosevelt Hotel is filled with migrants that are destroying many of the rooms that don't fit into our culture one way or another, don't have the skills we need. But the residents of New York and Chicago and Portland are saying, we can't take it anymore. This is it. But Mayor Johnson and Brandon Johnson and Cho Caugo is still singing the company tune that we have to be welcoming, we are sanctuary city.

I'll ask you this, Eric, this is January of twenty twenty four. Let's jump ahead three or four years. Let's say an unmitigated disaster takes place in November the fifth, and we have a Democratic president continuing I can't believe it's going to be Joe Biden mentally, he can't make it. But whether some other interchangeable drill bit takes over, and let's say we continue these

same policies for the next four to eight years. It is now twenty thirty and we have the same policies of three hundred thousand a month, which is, you know, about four million a year time six or seven. It's a population the size of Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana all put together. What does America look like? Well, that's a good question, and that's you know, the short answer is that's not looking good, right if these policies

continue. And that's what's important about Speaker Johnson in this upcoming budget bat is you know, Congress has the power of the purse they've passed HR two, whether they're going to maintain that position and say that the Bide administration must implement these policies because the Biden administrations is asking for more funding to their argument is the problem is in our policies is that we don't have enough money to deal

with this influx, right, And that's what Mayor Johnson's saying. Mayor Adams is saying the same thing. We see Governor in Arizona Hobb's saying the same thing. And so they're recognizing the crisis, but their solution isn't a secure border. Their solution is taxpayers must subsidize this process even more. And that's really the model that they've set up is they want this influx for various reasons. Number one because it's cheap labor. And you know, I think I

said this to the audience, to your audience before. Cheap labor is very expensive. Right, it's a good deal for the employers, but it's the taxpayers are on the hook for picking up the cost of subsidizing. In that sheet flavor, and that's you know, maryor Johnson. He's fine with the influx as long as his constituents aren't on the hook because they're they're up in arms, right, and so he's trying to deflect by saying, well, it's DC's problem. Well it is, but DC's solution has to be securing

the border. And right now, you know, can sink from the as you say, the song sheet, but the Bide administration doesn't seem to be singing in tune when it comes to even pretending to take it seriously. Eric, you have a column that you say the following. A new study found that illegal immigrants coust American taxpayers at least one hundred and fifty billion dollars per year, which is twelve hundred dollars per taxpayer, twelve hundred dollars. Explain

where those numbers come from. That seems like a bit low to me because of emergency rooms and public education, whether it's a criminal element that comes in fentanyl, how does the number one hundred and fifty billion or twelve hundred dollars or taxpayer, where does that come from? Well, the and then this is people need to realize, is most of those costs that you point out when it comes to emergency room care, those are born in state and local.

Now, it's not always easy to get at the costs because number one, the people who are in the country legally aren't aren't going to self report these these issues. So you have to look at it for various data sources. But it's it's it's public education K through twelve, it's in state tuition. Some states offer in state tuition. It's medical care. And now we're talking about housing and even Chicago, Illinois is giving nine thousand dollars in cash

to help migrants there. Illegal aliens there afford rent and you know, furnishings and things for for for their needs, whatever their needs are. They they're giving them cash. There's lots of different benefits that illegal aliens can qualify for. Now, it's tougher to get federal monies, but if you have a US born child, then that child allows the household to receive tax payer income.

So there's a lot of different ways. And even just policing cost, first responder costs, road maintenance, all of these costs are increased when you have increasing population. And argument population right now is increasing more so from illegal than legal immigration. And that's the thing is people say, you know, people who work illegally still pay taxes. Well, that's true to some extent. They do property taxes or taxes on cigarettes if they buy cigarettes, or

alcohol or food sales tax. But they're not paying in more than they are getting in services. And that's that's the other side of the argument that doesn't, you know, come out when we talk about what they're paying in. They are paying in, but they're getting a whole lot more out. You know. A few days ago, I'm watching I try to watch everything simultaneously, CBS News in the morning, and Gail King, who's one of the co anchors of the CBS Morning News, actually said to a to a so

called expert guests, are the cartels making any money from this? And I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Gail King, Hello, Earth the King, Are you with me on this thing? Are they hey? Are the cartels making any money on this thing? Can you answer that question for Gail King? Well, they're making a fortune. This is very profitable for them. And what makes it so profitable is they don't have to put up a lot of costs because they don't have to now find ways to get people in undetected.

They just get them to the border and they turn them over to the United States government who then releases them into the interior. And so you take away some of the costs, right, They don't have to go through the desert, they don't have to have all these extensive networks. They just funnel people to ports of entry and our government does the rest for them, and in effect, our government is completing the smuggling and trafficking process for the cartels.

Explain that, Please explain that to Gail King and others. You're a simple saying, well, all they want is a hot meal in a warm place to sleep. That's all they're after. Are the cartels making any money they explain to me how the American taxpayer the government is completing the human trafficking part of this. Well, the BIDE administration and everyone is fully aware of what's

going on. And we may have seen stories where the cartels are giving people braces, right, it's like waiting to get into Disneyland or you know someplace where you know there's a line, and they're making sure that everyone has paid number one, and they have an orderly process. Right, they have control of the southern border, and our government knows that they see we look across the border, we see exactly what's going on. We know who's doing the

smuggling, and we know who's getting paid. And yet we're incentive butted, right, and so you know a lot there's NGOs, you know, non government organizations who are down up the border as well. And the BIDE administration is saying, well, business, private organizations who are are housing these people at the border and then busting them up. But they're doing that because with

taxpayer money as well. And so that's another way around that. Well, it's not actually the government doing well, it's the taxpayers paying these ngo to do what the government is asking them to do. And so it's more than just what the Border Patrol and DHS is doing. It's all of the money

that's going to these private so called private organizations to help this flow. And you know, the cartails get him to the border, and the federal government does the rest and they oftentimes ask them where would you like to go?

And they facilitate their journey into the interior. And then you know, Governor Abbott and DeSantis and others have gotten a lot of criticism from the White House and Democratic mayors, but that's a small drop in the bucket when it comes to the flow, and most of them are going either on their own or because the federal government is helping them to get to their final destination. And according to the video that I see on all the news shows, it has

to deal with young, unattached males. Every now and then you'll see big family. Let's face it, right now, the families that are being separated by the Biden administration are of a factor six or seven more than happen under Trump. But because it's Biden and he's separating families, it's not a news story anymore. When Trump did it, it was a big news story.

But what is the dangers when you have large numbers of unattached males between the ages of say sixteen and thirty coming into a country with no educational skills. You don't fit into the country culturally. You have nowhere to sleep, nowhere to go. What are millions and millions of unattached males tend to do that we don't like. Well, the thing is most people and you know he pointed this out, and the Bide administration makes this argument that well, most

most of them are coming here for work. Well that's true, that doesn't mean all of them are. And if you want to come in here to create trouble, you can get in just as easily as those who want to come in to work. And you know, no one who comes into the United States I legally should be employed. That's a huge magnet. But the issue is one of the issues is there's more people coming in there are jobs available for them, And you're right, we're bringing people in. And the

argument is while they're economic migrants, right, they're pretending you repudees. But they're here because there's jobs an Americans won't do. But there's not jobs for all of these people. And you're right, what happens to millions of young men who don't have work, who don't have any real prospects. The outcome

is not going to be good. We see that whether you're US born or farm if you're a young man and you don't have a job and you really don't have any means, the likelihood that you're going to do something which is non society's best interest is greatly heightened. Well, the other issue is all of us know when you watch Joe Biden stumble around, he's not reading the Presidential Daily Briefing. He's not the guy looking at all the position papers,

ABC, D and E. How do we do this? The leftist progressives in the executive branch of government, the Valerie Jarrett's to Susan Rice's, they're the ones running the government. It's not even close to being Joe Biden.

And so when they look even as leftists, even as committed leftist Marxist revolutionary progressives, a few thousand that run the federal branch of government in their minds, Eric rew Ark of Numbers USA, can you jump into their head and explain to me the argument as to why this is positive for our country? With three hundred and fifty million people already that need services and need benefits.

Can you explain from a Marxist perspective why this is desirable? Well, there's nothing positive about it, and certainly I really can't explain you from a Marxist suspective, not being one. But I can tell you this the obamadministration and these are many of the same people who were in the Biden administration and who

did push for similar policies. Now, the difference back then was you had the so called adults in the room who stopped it, you know, the worst inclinations for these policies, but also so realized at the very least politically it was a disaster. Now we'd like to think that they, you know, the Axelrods and the Emmanuals, did have some concern for the effects of

these sorts of policies on the American people. But what we can say is that the Biden administration, people who are running the Biden administration and certainly the immigration policy, have no concern whatsoever. Secretary of Many Works is the American people aren't even on his list of concerns, right, And so that's the real problem is they don't see immigration the consequences of immigration party what they what

they are for the US citizenry's that doesn't affect their decision making. It's how do we get as many foreig nationals into the United States as possible, as quickly as possible. And there's no one putting a check on that. Certainly, President Biden, whatever hit level of awareness is, he's certainly not doing anything to stem it. No. In fact, when I read the speeches of Barack Hussain Obama and five six, seven eight, they sound like Donald

Trump or you or me right now. But something's fundamentally changed and it's not good. And I would encourage the Republicans in these so called negotiations to get a steel backbone and actually stand up for something, and that is to make sure the southern border is shut down until we get a handle on this, which is unlikely. But once again, great information numbers USA. Eric grew Ark, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

And I hope in a few months they have a great resolution that the National Guard is at the southern border. There's thousands of extra judges to hear these cases. Suddenly the southern border is shut down. The cartels have lost billions of dollars in funding. Girls are not raped and boys are not killed, and gangs are not prowling about major cities paying off their debt to the cartel.

And we have a presidency that functions. Eric grew Ark, once again, you're a great American, and thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Eric, Thank you, Bill, God bless you. All Right, let's continue with more. That's numbers USA, Numbers USA, lots of facts and figures. We have to almost deprogram again our college kids to let them recognize reality, which is going to be difficult. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night, Billy Cunningham, the Great American, Eric

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United States of America. Let's continue with more Kent Heck and Lively is next. He's written a book on the Dei scam, which resulted in doctor Clyding

Gay getting her gag. Bill Cunning in The Great American with you every Sunday night, Bill cunning in the Great American, of course, having watched the last several days, in fact, the last several weeks, the results of doctor Clyding Gay and what's happening at Harvard, which is damaging the branch all we say, it makes it sound like Tyland, all about twenty five years ago, but all recovered magnificently. I'm not sure Harvard will also watching some

of the commentary this morning on the morning talk shows. It appears that we Americans have a problem with powerful black women, and this commentator said that doctor Clydine Gay fitted nicely with the attacks on Kamala Harris, our vice president. And also just as Cantanji Jackson, who doesn't know what a woman is, that whenever a black woman arises the power that America has to find dirt on

them, as if it doesn't apply to Donald Trump. But nonetheless joining you and I now is Kent Heck and Lively, author of Diversity con Secrets and Lives Behind the Shady DEI Industry. And ken Heck and Lively, I think it'd be useful for the American people to first hear about your own personal history before we talk about the diversity con in which Al Sharpton and others has monetized racism. So tell the American people a little bit about your bio. Yeah.

So I'm an attorney. I'm a science teacher as well, and I've published fifteen books for that have been national bestsellers. I'm best known for the Plagued series with doctor gd Mikavitz, and I've also published four books with Project Veritas whistleblowers, and I've written the book Presidential Takedown, which was about the COVID nineteen task Force that was co authored with doctor Paul Alexander, who was

the senior Advisor to the pandemic advisor to the COVID nineteen task Force. Having heard your story, Ken Heck and Lively, I like you to comment about how much money's involved in DEI. How much money's involved because about ten fifteen, twenty years ago, I thought discrimination was something, shall we say, that was going out the door in America at least, but there was too much money at stake. So explain what happened ten or fifteen years ago.

They gave birth to the Dei Dei experiences we have today. One of the really interesting things that we discovered in putting our book The Diversity con together, is that there is an industry which is engaged in causing chaos. And the villain of this piece is the Tides Foundation out of San Francisco. Now, the Tides Foundation was founded in the late nineteen seventies by a left wing activist

and it's got a really interesting financial set, financial and legal setup. What it does is Let's say you're a billionaire and you say, okay, Tide Foundation, I want to invest ten million dollars with you. You're going to put it into some funds, I'm going to get a rate to return for a couple of years, starting to get a nice rate to return and everything. So it's functioning started like an investment vehicle. But then what you can do is you can say, hey, Tides Foundation, why don't you take

three million dollars of my investment and give it to Black Lives Matter. So the money doesn't come from you, the billionaire, it comes from the Tides Foundation. Now how big is the Tides Foundation. Well, in twenty twenty they gave out over six hundred million dollars in grands, so they've got an enorm Yeah, they they've six six hundred and seven I think it was exact number that they gave. And so what you see as this interlocking network of

foundations. And so when we look at, okay, who's putting money into the Tides Foundation, Well, it's all the regular players, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, George Soros, Open Society, Rockefeller, Carnegie Endowment, Johnson Foundation. So you've got this really weird legal structure, which is you can be a rich person and you can park a bunch of money there, and you know you can draw a good rate to return because they've got investment

vehicles for you. And then it's not this political arm and you know you are not tied to the organization that gets the money, so you can say, ah, I put some money in the Tites Foundation. Then they do these things. And so all of this appears to be legal, but you know, for my estimation, it's highly unethical and violates the spirit, if not the law of they're what they're supposed to be doing under the law.

And ken what is the motivation? Because George Soros, in this loosely organized group of billionaires, it looks to me like they're having the impact of destroying large parts of our American society. Is that their goal? Do they want to like take down public education, take down police departments, open southern border?

What's what's the purpose? What's the goal in giving these six hundred million dollars in one year to left wing ces causes by one Tides Foundation plus many other A lot of moneys at stake here, But what is their goal? What do they want out of this money. Well, that was the real question that we had in our book, because we had David Johnson go undercover many of these trainings, and what he came away with was that many of the trainings are Marxist in nature. And you know, you'll even have Patris

Quaars from Black Lives Matter say that she's trained Marxist. And so we were confronted with a question of why are these billionaires giving money to Marxist organizations. You know, history teaches us there's no money in Marxism, right, but

there's money in monopoly. And so if you can use Marxists Marxist tactics to destroy local communities and you get people, you know, giving all their money to Amazon, giving their money to Target instead of the local, uh, local stores, you have an enormous transfer of wealth from the middle class. As we saw during the COVID crisis, we had four trillion dollars move from

the middle class to the billionaire class. So I really think that this is this is an old game, you know, because the robber barons of the nineteenth century wanted you living in company housing, working for the company, buy in from the company's store. That's the model, and they're just using Marxism and racism to make to destroy vibrant local communities, to destroy destroy vibrant relationships

between people of different backgrounds, you know. And and what happens when we don't feel good in our community, Well, we have to attach ourselves to something. So we're just plugged into you know, our Netflix are Amazon,

and we're not engaging with other human beings. So many times Kent Heck and Lively, author of the book Diversity con what this is is like investment in the future to take away mom and pop stores, to have more and more Americans poorly or not educated whatsoever, to break down law and order so that more and more people live in the company town on the company check, getting company food, which is government getting company vouchers and living the company life and

getting rid of entrepreneurism. And I would assume religion also because religion is again a speed bump on the way to what the billionaire class wants from the Tides Foundation, et cetera. And for those who are optimistic, having you spent so much written so much in the subject matter, I've read that essentially that and in three or four or five years things will be back to normal with Harvard and clouding Gay, she got her million dollar Golden Parish out the door.

She's written at least two editorials for The Wall Street Journal New York Times talking about how she's a victim of racism, which appears to be completely ridiculous. She's a victim of her own plagiarism, and a victim of her own lies, and the victim of the fact she's not qualified to be the president

of any large organization based upon her history. But do you think after this episode with Claudine Gay, that the DEI industry, which is now surrounding her and protecting her, is going to learn the lesson of the lies and the plagiarism, or it's simply a speed bump on its way to more government control. Here's what I think. I think we can expect a lot of scalps to be taken in twenty twenty four. And this is not about vengeance,

It's about competence. Now, let's think about who's being hurt by this DEI agenda. There's some Indian kid who's in a senior in high school right now, who's got a great GPA, perfect scores. He's done a whole bunch of extracurricular activities. He's going to apply to Harvard and because he's Asian, they're going to knock two hundred points off of his application and he's not going to get in. Okay, that hurts him. Who else is being hurt?

There are really good academics in our universities who have done the job the right way. You know, Let's say it's a middle aged white guy who's got all these publications and who is committed to fairness. Well, he's never going to be looked at. And so what we need to do is we need to use the power of social media, because we know the mainstream media doesn't doesn't care about this stuff. They're all left wing. But social media has this amazing power. And so what we need to do is we need

to drag these people out into the light. I mean, Elsie Stephanick questioned plawting nineteen different times to condemn anti Semitism. You know, the plumber down the street only needs to be asked that question once to know the right answer. So what we need to do is we need to bring these people out of the light because the only way they maintain their position is with the public support. So if they are having these crazy ideas. You know, it

is time for us to rise up, demand accountability. And you know, I don't care if they're liberal, just don't say stupid things like clotting gay did and Judge Justice Keatanji Jackson. I mean not knowing what a woman is. You know, ninety eight percent of drunk ninety eight percent of drunk college freshmen can identify a woman. Okay, So all I'm saying, yeah, And all I'm saying is that we're in trouble because unless Harvard, the DEI

crowd, which is a multi billion dollar business business is good business. When I see Reverend Al Sharpton, who is a tax cheat, out in front of Bill Aikman's offices, protesting because he wants to express thoughts as a billionaire as a Harvard graduate, and somehow, you know, DEI is not the way to go because that is race discrimination, and that Al Sharpton, tongue in cheek, is protesting the free speech rights of a multi billionaire giving lots

of bucks to Harvard, and he kind of wink wink, nod nod, And a few of the persons with them were interviewed a couple of days ago and they had no idea what they were protesting or who this bill character is. They have no clue what's going on, and they keep the game alive because the racial game pays lots of money. We're talking billions and billions of dollars. Do you see work of yours and others kind of changing the drift of this huge rocket ship to nowhere? Or do you think it is too

much? Has already had happen with DEI and the college's, university's corporate America government that there's nothing we can do to stop it at this point, sit back and watch America be destroyed from within. I'll ask you this, Ken Heck and Lively. Do you have hope or do you not have hope? I have incredible hope. Look, we're just a couple of days into twenty twenty four and we took out the president of Harvard. This is great.

I think that we've got a lot of Dad energy coming back into the system. You know, use ridicule and contempt of these people and have fun with this fight. This is just this is a wonderful fight, and we're going to win it because all we have to do is talk and you know, prap jokes about you know, not being able to identify a woman. I mean, I'm sorry, you know, if human beings couldn't figure out what

women were, I doubt that we would have survived as a species. But it's the correct answer because when justice can Tenji Kintanji Jackson said, I don't know what a woman is. It was so absurd. But once again, when I read the literature this going back about a year or so of this appointment, those who call her in the question are the ones being attacked.

And so it's going to be sync to Bismarck in twenty twenty four to bring down Donald Trump because they've thrown everything at him and it hasn't worked yet. And he's the only president we've ever had that had grandchildren who were Jewish, and they keep coming after Trump by different ways, hoping something works. I'll ask you this, Ken, I love your optimism. I'm not as optimistic as you are about colleges and universities turning back to moderate approaches in corporate America

and government and the southern border. What happens if the interchangeable drill bit in this November wins and we have four to eight more years of the policies of Joe Biden on the southern border in the major cities six hundred million dollars a year out of the Tides Foundation. Well, what if you're incorrect and America stays in this course for another, say ten years, what do we look like? Then? I run away to Argentina. Costa Rica is what I

say, Costria. I mean, I don't know where we're headed because we can't continue opposing discrimination by using it, and the entire civil rights crowd doesn't have a purpose to exist. Their philosophies control the university's Hollywood, New York. They control government and every city government. Every mayor's a left wing activist Democrat. And if that continues unbridled the next five to ten years, I

think we're in real trouble. Look if they start carrying down statues of Martin Luther King Jr. Which is what they're going to have to do, because his philosophy was that you judge somebody based on their character and their accomplishments, then I'll tell you it's time to run. But until that happens, I think stay and fight and be cheerful, and we're gonna win this thing because the absurdity is so clear. I mean, look, you got three university

presidents appere just a couple of weeks ago before Congress. Two of them are gone now, and I think Mit is probably the president. Mit who's still there is probably next on the chopping block. So you know, probably by the end of January, she will either had her wings clipped or she will be gone as well. Lastly, I would say that doctor Clauding Gay got

the one million dollar parachute. Kamala Harris is in charge of the Southern Border and she's terrible, and Justice Jackson doesn't know what a woman is when she's a woman, I assume. And as a consequence, those are criticisms of their behavior, not criticisms of their race or gender. Once again, ken Heck and Lively, the book is diversity con and it is a Secrets and Lies behind the shady DII industry. Kent, Heck and Lively once again raise

Zips a locuitor. Thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's keep the lines of communication open, and once again, thank you very much. Thanks joh all right, let's continue with more and if a line becomes available at eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven, Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night.