Ken Broo with Bill Dendy -- 12/2/24

in Donald Trump regaining power regaining the presidency. Swing voters broke for Trump fifty two percent versus thirty eight percent for Harris, and swing voters voters broke late for Donald Trump in this election, and among total swing voters who ultimately chose Donald Trump, immigration was a key issue, seventy seven percent of them believing that it was extremely or very accurate to say Democrats are not quote tough enough

on addressing the border crisis end quote. It is a problem with Donald Trump needs to address it, needs to address quickly, How quickly, how effective will he be able

to address it? And what happens when the media, the bleeding hearts in the media began showing us pictures and writing stories about families being separated in various locations around the country, regardless of whether or not there is a criminal in that family who came here illegally to do God knows what to this country regardless of all of that, because the media doesn't get all that wrapped up on details what happens when they begin painting that picture and

how it will it affect about how Donald Trump goes about his business. Standing by the way, in as someone whose opinion matters greatly on this, we have had Andrew Arthur on the show before. He is a law and policy expert at the Center for Immigration Studies, and he has carved out some time to spend with us right here on seven hundred W welw and Andrew, how are you on this glorious day, Ken.

just said. There's no question immigration and the philosophical approach to it by the Biden administration was absolutely paramount in this election. How long do you think it's going to take Donald Trump to undo what Joe Biden and his people did to this country from an immigration standpoint over the last three and a half years, or would it be asking too much to ask Donald Trump to undo it in the four years he'll have it the oval office.

patrol agent, worked his way up through ICE. Really knows the ins and outs of this. And you know, can remember back to a time when we were actually effectively running the border, when we were effectively removing people from the United States, and when we didn't leave the back door open for any and all to come in. So I think that you know, you've probably got the best person out of all three hundred and thirty five million Americans in charge of this issue. But the question that

jazz is bigger than that. And when you talk about the numbers of people who are here illegally, we can't even really get a grasp on it. You'll hear numbers anywhere between eleven point three million to about twenty five million. We estimate that it's something between thirteen and fifteen million, and a lot of those people literally just showed up, just showed up in the last four years, so they really haven't put down the sorts of roots that you're

talking about. But can consider the fact that there are more than five hundred thousand migrant children in our schools right now. I mean, that's a huge number of people. And extricating, you know, children from the community, sending them back home, that's going to require a lot of political will. And I think that you know, when you look at the numbers that you just cited, those are from Blueprint Analyzes. Blueprint is a democratic organization, so they're looking at this

with a pretty clear eye. You know, this was a major issue, and the American people want something done. If you want my honest assessment, though, Donald Trump's not really going to be able to to undo just the damage in the last four years, during the four years that he's going to have, I estimate that it's going to take about a decade. It's probably going to cost about a trillion dollars to extricate the United States trum this. Now,

that's not a trillion dollar spent on removing people. Removing people is actually a lot cheaper proposition. But when it comes to caring for all of those people, you know, about eight million people who have arrived over the last four years. You know, in providing aid to you know, the school districts and the cities and the towns, the police forces that are going to need to deal with immigrant crime, you're going to rack up a trillion dollar

bill pretty quickly. And unfortunately, a lot of that money isn't going to be paid by the federal government. A lot of that is going to be paid by state and local officials as they deal with this, try to you know, handle and provide for the children, provide medical care for people who are This is a mess, And I don't even think that the American people appreciate how big a mess this is. I think that over the next two years, we're actually going to start to see

some of those costs come do. And the American people are you know, just going to support uh, you know, the Trump policies even more than they have. But there's gonna be a lot of pushback in the media. Is going to show you a picture of you know, every you know, mother and child that ends up getting removed, and you know, try to play on the heartstreams of the American people. I just don't know how successful that's going to be.

that's a that's a non win him. But I think Initially, he can stop what's going over the southern border. We already see that Mexico really wants to play ball because they don't want to be tariffed. Same with Canada as well, So you have that. I think he'll physically try and finish that border wall, and if he does, indeed have fifty three Republicans in con well, he's he's got fifty plus his vice president and then three people that you know, they may be Republicans, they may not be, Collins and

Murkowski and McConnell. We'll see exactly where they go with these votes. But if indeed can get that wall finished and can start extricating the criminals that are in this country, I think that will go a long way in curtailing a new people coming in and b maybe getting the message out to other people they should not be in this in this country in the first place. I think that's where Homan starts, don't.

of all of this has changed. You have a paradigm shift. It's no longer you know, thought of that you're going to be able to come here and live here indefinitely and remain here forever. You know, now people are going to start to see those criminals taken off the streets. They're going to start to see a crackdown along the border if they have family members that they're hoping to immigrate and they're not going to be able to make it. And yeah, I mean completing the border wall system, which

is bigger than just defence itself. You know, that's the cameras and the lights and the fiber opt to cable, all those other things that make that border wall system work is going to be a game changer. I think you're going to see the number of people entering the lead a plummet. We're going to go back to, you know, twenty seventeen numbers when we saw the first Trump effect. We're going to see a lot of cooperations from Mexico

and Cannon. That's in both of their interests to help us out on this, and then we could start to address that criminal population, that national security risk population in the United States. And you know, you're going to see a lot of people go home because that's what happened about three hundred thousand to five hundred thousand people who are here unlawfully can't lead every year, I fig you're

going to see those numbers pick up. In fact, there was an article out of Dalton, Georgia that was talking about how people you know there were planning on leaving there. There was an article out of Springfield, Ohio about people who were looking for someplace else to live because you know, they know that they are, you know, in the cross heirs of immigration enforcement. So yeah, I mean, really, the most important thing that Trump's going to do is change

the narrative of all this. I think they we're going to get back to a lawful immigration system, an orderly immigration system. That's in the interesting American people. But you know it's you know, the election itself is the biggest statement that the American people can make about immigration. I think it's going to have a real impact.

placing razor wire along the border. Well, Biden found a judge that said that was illegal, and I guess it was. The Fed started cutting down the wire. Then wait a minute, there was an appeals court ruling against Biden last week to block Texas from kenny continuing to place razor wire. This seawire up so it can continue. You again, a lot of this depends on whether or not Trump gets

to complete the rest of his wall. But there's no question, as you point out in this article, that the razor wire is a great deterrent for people coming into this country whose first act when they come into this country is an illegal act. So I don't sense that that was a bad ruling by this latest judge. But it does work, does it not?

the community and escaping into the country that way. For some reason, nobody really knows the reason why. In September twenty twenty three, CBP under the Biden Harris administration started destroying portions of that wire in Maverick County, Texas. And you know, this launched a fight. It went all the way to the Supreme Court about whether they could tear it out or whether they couldn't tear it out. And you mentioned the judge that they went to the first time.

She's actually a very interesting woman, judge of Leah Moses down in Texas. She initially said, you know, the Biden Harris administration could continue to destroy it, but she talked about the political ego and ranker that had brought us to this point. She said, look, the immigration system may

be dysfunctional, but it works when you allow it to work. So, you know, her initial decision that allowed them to go forward and destroy the wire that's just been reversed, you know, was a win for the Biden administration, but it was a stunning indictment of the Biden administration and the immigration policies that they run down there. And now that this circuit you know, has gotten along with that said no, you can't do it. This is sovereign state pop property and you have to leave it alone.

that's a bad visual. Yeah, And it was a bad visual for you know, for Joe Biden when he was running for president. It was a horrible one for Kamala Harris. So Texas, Texas won, Texas is still winning on that issue.

chance to flip Texas in a national election. But you know, you're right, that would have if you would would have put border patrol agents in between the Texas Rangers and and the federal government, you know, wherever they may be coming from the army, wherever it might have been, it would have been. It would have been horrible. But I agree with you. I think it's I think it's going to be difficult. It's going to take years, decades probably to undo what has happened to this country over the

last three and a half years. But I sense that there are breaks that are being applied. But that won't stop you from what you do so well at cis dot org, and it's great when you can join us. Andrew Arthur, we appreciate your time here and you stay well and keep fighting the good fight.