Dan Carroll with Todd Bensman -- 11/12/24

the Big One. Those are the numbers to call. Sean McMahon is the main man running the big board there, and he's been trying to reach out to what the guests we're supposed to have right now, to Todd Bensman from the Center for Immigration Studies, And since we are still trying to make our connection with him, I'll just go ahead and start reading the piece that got my attention that he posted yesterday that made me reach out to him to be a guest on this show to

begin with. And he starts with this Democrat Party oppositionist immigrant advocates and their US media allies are mobilized and dug in for all out political war against President elect Donald Trump's signature plan, the Great Mass Deportation, the greatest mass deportation in American history, and harbingers of things to come. Framing to come, opponents of immigration law are choosing metaphorical language, hearkening to the Nazi Holocaust and the Bosnian Civil War.

Immigration lawyers prepared to battle Trump in court reads one typical recent New York Times headline over a story calling the Trump plans harsh and describing how battalions of immigration lawyers and civil liberties groups are mobilizing to wage total legal and political war to stop them. We literally have a blueprint of what they are planning to do, and so we had months and months to figure out how

to protect people. The paper quoted Becca Heller, founder of the International Refugee Assistance Project, saying Trump has told us what to expect, hate and persecution and concentration camps. I've never heard Trump use the word concentration camp. Did you ethnic cleansing? Los Angeles Times reported Ronald Brownstein called, so this is a sample a sampling of some of the rhetoric that is coming from the left, the handwringing and all the rest of it over Trump's plan to begin

this deportation process. But what you may not have known is that deportations and when Tom Homan was interviewed by sixty Minutes, he was asked about deporting families. You know, are family is going to be broken up, and he said they don't have to be you can deport entire families. Well, that just sounds unbelievably cruel. But it turns out the Biden administration is doing it right.

never been covered by major media to this day. In twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, the Biden Harris administration launched an ICE air operation that has mass supported by air as many as five hundred and fifty thousand often central are often Central American immigrants to date, keeping together whole families that include babes and arms in mother's arms.

Todd Bensman writes, I know this because I remained perhaps the only American writer who witnessed, videotaped, and reported the massive airlift while it happened at unmarked hangars and playing closed ICE agents driving unmarked vehicles, putting them into unmarked ICE contracted jets in small, out of the way US airports.

He says, I wrote video and print dispatches for the Center for Immigration Studies, and dedicated most of an entire chapter of the operation to my two thousand and twenty three book overrun how Joe Biden unleashed the greatest border crisis in US history. For starters, the fact that Biden Harris carried out family deportation flight spotlights the profound dual standard hypocrisy of today's emerging crop of political warfighters and their media supporters because Donald Trump is doing it rather

than the president they liked and wanted to politically protect. Secondly, the Biden Harris mass deportation airlift, although probably smaller in scale than what's coming, provides an important value for the next administration as a sound operational blueprint for those in the Trump administration who will carry it out. So if you're talking about getting rid okay of illegals, all he has to do is look to what the Biden administration is doing right now and has been doing since twenty

twenty one. And joining us now is the man who wrote the article i'd just been reading from from the Center for Immigration Studies. Todd Benzman and Todd Bensman, Welcome to the show. How are you.

happening with immigration. But I think a lot of people are going to be shocked, and maybe even the women on the view might be shocked to learn that the Biden administration has deported over half a million people out of this country and send them back two places south of the border.

are women and children and families. These are exactly the demographics that the Democratic Party apparatus and their media collaborators are talking about now and that you're going to be hearing a lot about oh my god, they're deporting families and breaking families up or whatever, as though this is a you know, an acutely immoral act. But they have allowed the Biden administration to carry these out for years now.

And I mean I'm talking about like with mothers with babes in arms kind of thing, deportations on flights to their home countries. No amnesty for them or a temporary protected status or release for them, they deported them. So you know, where is the outcry on that? Why are they sharpening the knives? Why is it evil? And you know kind of you know, recalling imagery from the Holocaust when Trump does it, but not when Biden does it. And it's happening right now, even for the next ten weeks,

they'll still be doing it. One nine hundred flights just this year twenty twenty four. Each one of them holds about one hundred and ten hundred and twenty immigrants. So you know, you can do the math. There's it's you know, one hundred and he don't forget what I did the math earlier, But it's a lot of people and many of them are women and children and families of just thought,

this is exactly what they're sharpening the knives for. As the Trump administration prepares to start doing, you know, these kind of deportations but in larger numbers.

But I go back to I go back to when Bill Clinton did his State of Union speeches and he and I remember one speech he used the term illegal alien, probably a couple of dozen times. And Bill Clinton, I think, to this this day is still one of the greatest, uh one of the greatest deporters of individuals, sending people back to where they came from. I remember when Barack Obama used to brag about about all the people that he's kicked out of the country, that he's deported, but

yet you never see the harsh language for them. You never see the harsh language for Joe Biden. You only see that sort of harsh language for Donald Trump because he dares speak about this openly and honestly and saying exactly what he's going to do. And then when he appoints someone like Tom Homan to be his point man on this effort, you know that Trump is serious about what about what is going to come?

never really differed much on that. It was the law, and it just diverged in twenty twenty one when Biden took office and brought with him an extreme group of progressive liberals from the migrant advocacy industry, the people that do resettlement and they make their money on doing migrant help and refugee resettlement. And all that. Those are the

people he brought in, well they serve themselves. That was the ultimate self flicking ice cream cone, to bring those people in, and they set those are not normal Democrats. They set this thing off. They engineered it. It was well planned and well executed. It was not a mistake. There's nothing broken. It was done on purpose, and they knew exactly how and when to do it. That was an unusual departure from democratic norms.

What can you tell us about that situation.

let as few as possible through. During the American campaigns, they did not want to provide video footage to the Trump you know campaign advertising machine, right, And so they held him back there. It's called Operation Carousel, very very effective. The numbers dropped by half and then you know, sometimes seventy and eighty percent from what they were. And I thought that it was really only good till through election day, right, And I think the immigrants figured it was only good

through election day. So a bunch of caravans started forming up in the days leading up to election day, and then actually on election day to test whether the Mexican government was going to hold him back, would they keep holding him back or let him through, And it looked like they were going to let him through. It was a big test of willingness or commitment by the new

Mexican government where they're going to hold him back. And then on Monday, the day before the election, Donald Trump came out at one of his campaign rallies and says, don't you dare if you let them through, I'm going to put when I'm in office, immediately twenty five percent tariffs on all your trade goods coming into the US. And if I don't like what's happening still, it'll be fifty percent, and then seventy five percent, and then one

hundred percent until it stops. So right then is when the caravan said he looked like they were getting blocked. I think we're going to let him through. And people just gave up then because it looked like the Mexican's weren'ting to let him through. That's what I think really happens a little bit more nuanced, yeah, than you know,

but I think that's what's going on right now. Operation Carousel will be permanent or semi for the next four years once Trump's office, because he's going to insist on it, and he's probably going to insist that they go even harder, more resources, seal it up even more, and on pain of the tariff threat.

worth the effort. Give me one net benefit that America is going to see if we do, in fact, are able to carry out this deportation of multi millions of illegals in this country.

we'll grant you amnesty too. And it creates this incredibly powerful, irresistible draw the Americans are doing these amnesties again, we can get in. We'll probably get in under one of those in a year or two or whatever. So it's just Amnesty's lore immigrants in from around the world for the next one. That's the problem with amnesties. They cause mass migration.