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Bill Cunningham talks how TikTok poses a threat to America with Scott Powell, America and Israel's relationship with Israel Ellis, Mike McDonald talks how Trump's policies on the border conflict with American bishops, Ali Bradley gives an update on the border and Dr. Frank Marbut talks about the fentanyl crisis.

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Speaker 1

Willie Brough.

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You by Choice Hotels, Econo Lodge and Roadway In Hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels dot com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best, the recipient of not won, but two prestigious Marconi Awards for he is Broadcast Exodens, the one and only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 3

Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Good here with me this Sunday night. So much going on, so many issues, so little.

Speaker 4

Time, and one thing.

Speaker 3

I look at the markets for Monday don't look very good, very well at all. That doals down about seven hundred points, and the markets in the Far East are not very good. It's because of the tariff issue that is Donald Trump effective yesterday, Saturday and Monday with the Chinese are going to have an effect a twenty five percent tariff on Canadian products, a twenty five percent tariff on Mexican products, and a ten percent tariff on Chinese products to be

administered over the next day or two. And it's a consequence the governments in Canada and Mexico are responding in kind with tariffs of their own. So there's a concern Smooth Hartley Acts that took place in nineteen thirty thirty one, which precursed the Great Depression. Is each country erected walls against other products coming in.

Speaker 5

Now.

Speaker 4

I don't think that's going to be the case.

Speaker 3

I do not believe that we live in the econo of economy we had in nineteen twenty nine to thirty. And I'm reading reports from various studies. According to a twenty four analysis of tariffs Dunby Mackenzie on the tariffs on the goods competition for US producer for US made Oops, you know what that sounds right? Twenty twenty study on the effects tariffs and theation.

Speaker 4

Found that they strengthened.

Speaker 3

I mean, how good was the economy after pars of Donald Trump, taken up petially by Joe Biden, led to significant restoring in the industries like manufacturing steel production, our products coming out of Korea coming out rough job. We're gonna build more manufacturing Global tariffs on steel American jobs US. An analysis in the Atlantic count Conservative Organization on the quote tariffs would create new incentives for US consumers to buy US made products.

Speaker 4

Does that make sense? It always doesn't me when I buy.

Speaker 3

Is made in China, can to buy American former by Treasury Secretary Nick Yellen, who was a left winger, remember Janet Yellen firm last year. I don't believe that American consumers will see any meaningful increase in the prices that they face due to tariffs. Really, and then President Trump's tariffs on steel and China reduced import of effected steel twenty and increase US production and steel products by one

point nine percent. In addition, I buy Protestant group of senators wrote Joe in September asking him to reimpose more Steve Steel arrists. Ago, I'm reading what the American consumer says in a new post that these tariffs will have the effect of having foreign products be sourced inside of America because of the strength of the American economy.

Speaker 4

And this is all one and left.

Speaker 6

The smooth.

Speaker 7

Can learned that they could kind of taking full businesses the US. So if you're if you're a field manufacturer, if you're a BMW Mercedes Benz manufacturer, you want to locate more.

Speaker 4

Plants and states.

Speaker 3

In fact, Honda and in America. The great majority is their incentivized to doce it because that's and things of that character. So I know the markets right now in the Far East are going nuts. The Dow futures are down about seven hundred points. We'll see what happens when the market's open in about eleven hours. But at this point, we'll see what happens. I think Trump knows what he's

doing in Trump, I trust. And secondly, we've had terrible two incidents since you and I were together last Sunday night with two airplanes going down, the terrible events over the Potomac, and then the second one was the medical evacuation flight out of Philadelphia. And that maybe is in a separate category because it appears the enginestalled or whatever. But the FAA had a diversity push, including focusing on hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric difficulties. And I'm

reading now from the website itself. The FAA put up on their own website during the Biden administration that the targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruiting and hiring. This is on the FA's website under Joe Biden. These include hearing loss, blindness, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, and dwarfism

quote unquote. The initiative was part of the FAA's diversity Inclusion hiring plan, which says, quote diversity is integral to achieving FA's mission. Is FA's mission. I think it's to keep the skyway safe. I think getting on a plane. No, there's FA's mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel across our nation and beyond. And this was under Pete Buddhajetge, of course. And we've had several incidents, including with Boeing, which is a DEI complying company, with their plugs and

their doors terrible circumstances. Following the incident with Boeing, social media commentators and public figures have said that airlines and airline manufacturers emphasis on DEI for example, made flying less safe. And I see some quotes from Elon Musk and others. Do you want to fly in an airplane where they prioritize DEI hiring over your safety. That is actually happening. There's a crisis of leadership with Boeing. Over a year ago they had major push to hire DEI complying employees.

Many are concerned about that and talk about the extent of the difficulties here. You may not know it, but the Democratic National Committee organized itself the last two or three days and they decided to pick the head of the DNC. Jamie Harrison, the Democrat from South Carolina, had done a great job as head of the Democratic Party. Would you agree they had a great cycle? Actually not, And in order to pick new leadership, they identified the

problems based upon racism and sexism. In fact, there were like eight candidates on stage, and one of the moderators asked the question from NPR. Of course, I don't know why we fund bad radio that how many the candidates had to raise your hand?

Speaker 4

About eight of them?

Speaker 3

Do you believe that racism and sexism caused the defeat of Kamala Harris? Racism and sexism? Every hand went up. I don't know about you, but when I got on the plane, which I do infrequently, but I do, I want to have the most competent person imaginable in the tower, the so called traffic towers that determine these things air

traffic control, to have the best person available. Did you know there's a lawsuit for race discrimination against the FAA wherever a thousand persons were not given the opportunity of going to Oklahoma City and train for the ability to train to become an air traffic controller because they had the wrong skin color, and the lawsuit claims racism was

behind it. And when you read the website that the FAA is looking for individuals with hearing vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disabilities, psychiactrior disability, or dwarfism, you're most welcome. And by the way, I have represented dwarfs before, and there's nothing mentally wrong with anyone who's a dwarf. It might be a physical difficulty,

but it's not a mental difficulty. I don't care if there's six dwarfs air traffic controllers, or I don't care if there's two pilots that are both dwarfs. If they can do the job, I want them to do it. But I want them to get the job because they're a dwarf. And God help us if that dwarf has psychiatric problems, what the hell do we do? Then the FAA says they want not the best person available, they want to hire the person compliant with DEI, which is

now gone. And as an example, I think it was Saturday, about twenty four hours ago that Jamie Harrison had a difficulty picking the six chairs, the leaders of the Democratic National Committee, so he stood up and made a two minute comment about who should be voted in the next time. Now you know, whenever the leader of a party, Democratic Republicans speak, they do with the force of those beneath their throne, that is Democrats endorsed by the Democratic National Committee.

The Democrats picked Jamie Harrison a few years back to be the leader of the Democratic Party. He's a Democrat congressman former out of South Carolina. The guy's a left wing, left wing ideologue, blaming racism and sexism for the defeat of Kamala Harris, and not the fact that she didn't know what the hell she was doing. And we voted mainly on the issues of the southern border, which they

consider almost to be a sacrament. But if Sean McMahon has it ready, my great producer, the son of Vince McMahon, Sean McMahon has ready. These are the actual comments of Jamie Harrison, who until last night was the chair of the National Democratic committee, and they picked Ken Martin from Minnesota, who was an alcoholtic at Tim Waltz to take over. But these are the comments, and follow these comments, and you tell me if you can understand anything he's saying. Sean McMahon hit.

Speaker 8

It Earles specify that when we have a gender non binary candidate or officer, the non binary individual is counted as neither male nor female, and the remaining six offices must be gender balanced. With the results of the previous four elections, our elected officers are currently two male and too female. In order to be gender balanced, we must we must elect one male, one female, and one person of any gender. So again, this is what we have to do for this vice chair race.

Speaker 9

We have to.

Speaker 8

Elect one male, one female, and one person of any gender. To ensure our process accounts for male, female, and non binary candidates, we conferred with our RBC co Chair, our LGBT Caucus co Chair, and others to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements in our rules. To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outline to you earlier this week, but I hope you will see that in practice it

is simple and transparent. The order of balancing is designed to ensure equal access to the ballot regardless of gender identity, as we must elect a candidate of any gender, as well as one male and one female vice chair. We will first ask members to elect a candidate of any gender on the first ballot. Any candidate male, female, and non binary.

Speaker 9

Can be elected on that ballot.

Speaker 8

After a candidate is elected on the first ballot, we'll have one officer of the three, so then we will know which position is filled of the one male, one female, and one vice chair of any gender. Our second ballot would also be for a candidate of any gender. Then our third ballot will be the third position that is remaining based on the two results, either a male candidate if a candidate that is not male has not been elected, or a female candidate if a female has not been elected.

Speaker 3

I defy anyone to hear those remarks of the Chair of the National Democratic Committee, Jamie Harrison, and explain one thing that he just said. What is wrong with hiring someone based upon marriage and their ability? And do not seek out individuals who can't do the job properly. But if you're a Democrat and you just heard that and they pick the heads of their party based upon the criteria put out by the chair of the Democratic National Committee,

Jamie Harrison. Do you have any clue what they're talking about. I do not care if every air traffic controller is black, or disabled or a dwarf, whatever it might be. If they can do the job, so be it objective criteria. It takes about two years to become an air traffic controller in Oklahoma, about two years. And if that's the criteria, the Democratic Party is employed in hiring throughout the federal

system the last four years. And that's the system employed right now in the Blue Cities and the Blue States. You can see why things are so screwed up in New York City, in Chicago, in Atlanta, in Los Angeles, and in San Francisco.

Speaker 4

Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3

Is that the very best we can do as Americans irrespective of merit. It used to be a test was given and whoever it did best on the test got the job. Now you multiply, subtract, add and divide based upon immutable traits of race and the kind of sex you enjoy that has nothing to do with the job to be performed. And if you really believe that Kamala Harris lost the presidency because of racism and sexism, instead of the fact that she could not articulate a clear message.

She could not say anything she would do different than Joe Biden, and Joe Biden was on the wrong track. He had a thirty five percent approval rating, and Kamala Harris promised more of the same. That's the reason she lost. It had nothing to do, zero to do, zero to do with race and sex. After all, Barack Hussein Obama took office twice and Colin Powell did a great job, many say as the Secretary of State. Whatever it might be,

race was not a factor in their selection. What was the factor is the American people wanted to go in that direction, as said of some other So we'll see what happens. But when you hear the words of the head of the Democratic National Committee describing exactly how and what to do to pick the leaders of the Democratic Party, there's a problem right there. And I do not want anyone doing a job is important as an air traffic controller based upon the kind of sex they enjoy, the

color of their skin. And I know in many parts of the federal government one can work for many federal agencies. And you may be blind, have hearing problems, have other disorders than you're fine, but that is not being an air traffic controller. You could work for Social Security, health and Human Services doing a bunch of things. In fact, I have a friend of mine who's blind that works for a government agency and does a great job. They

make reasonable accommodations and this guy performs quite well. So it cannot be. It cannot be. Please, racism and sexism, that's an excuse for failure of policy. And when a policy is DEI, I don't care who you are, that is a serious, serious problem. Right, Let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 3

So, Donald Trump has saved so far with Elon Musk, well over a billion dollars in your tax dollars by trying other means and methods getting rid of DEI.

Speaker 4

And it's not going to give up easy. As you know, DEI.

Speaker 3

Corporately and in the government, Blue cities, blue stays, US federal government is worth about eight to ten billion dollars a year in payments. That is, it's an industry like DEI is an industry, Lots of money being spent on that, and universities are pumping out young men and women committed to DEI to pay for the sins of the past. On the FAA's own website, the agency states that people with severe mental and physical disabilities are underrepresented segments of

our workforce. They go on to say, quote, because diversity is so critical, FAA actively supports and engages in a variety of associations, programs, coalitions, and initiatives to support and accommodate employees from diverse communities and backgrounds. Our people, our people, are our strength, and we take great care and investing

in them, valuing their efforts. We're talking now about air traffic controllers, for God's sakes, we're talking about the individuals that have your life in your hands when you fly an airplane. Ninety percent of the towers across America have a shortage of air traffic controllers. Ninety percent. The one in Washington, d C. The Reagan supposed to have thirty air traffic controllers. They had a total of nineteen. They

were down like thirty percent. Been like that for years, and you can't turn on a switch and change the number of air traffic controllers. We need about thirty thousand presently there's about nineteen thousand, short ten or eleven thousand. Because persons were denied entry to the school in Oklahoma City because of the color of their skin they had the wrong color, or they were married and they had children, had a wife, or wife had a husband. They were

denied entry because of that fact. And at some point, my fellow Americans just got to stop. You can only imagine the road not taken that If, in fact, Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz had run the presidency and the vice presidency, these DEI programs would have been on steroids. But thank god, we came to our senses in time

to change the direction of this country. And at this point, the FAA says it employs tens of thousands of people for wide varieties of positions for administrative roles and execution of critical safety functions. If you're looking for some person involved in a safety function, would you want someone quote with severe mental disabilities unquote handling that safety function?

Speaker 6

Man?

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I don't think so. In fact, just the opposite. I went the best, in the bridest to do it. Not someone because of their skin color, or because of a disability, or because they have some other moment permanent issue that they can't perform the job. Why not hire people on merit and stay with that. Let's continue with more we've scheduled up next, Scott Powell, call him about TikTok and more.

Bill cunning and the Great American with you and all other great Americans every Sunday night, Billy Cunningham, the Great American. To come up later is talk to Margaret who talks about what the communist red Chinese are doing to us through a fentanyl and thank god the President is doing is best to shut down the southern border.

Speaker 4

Thank god for that.

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Also later on as Ali Bradley from News Nation going to report from the Southern border, how things have changed quite a bit. But first of all, Scott Powell, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Scott Powell, A, you really have a great column up. I read it first at town hall dot com. Does President Trump have it wrong about tik talk? And can you tell the American people what you mean by the column? Then we'll talk about those specifics.

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Well, most people think of TikTok. Of course, adults don't use TikTok as much as the younger generations do. But TikTok is a is a forum where people can create videos that have a that are very short. They're short and snappy, and sometimes they're you know, they're controversial, sometimes

they're they come in different formats. But because of the because the Chinese have cultivated this this medium to get people addicted, if you will, young people that they you know, they get stimulated by a video and so they want to see the next TikTok and the next TikTok, and you know, in twenty minutes or half an hour goes

by and they've they've been watching, you know, consecutive TikTok videos. Now, excuse me, some of these are you know, are just they're not necessarily harmful in and of themselves, but you know, TikTok has used the forum to aggregate information on users. When people download the TikTok app onto their phone, and there are about one hundred and seventy million Americans who have downloaded TikTok, that's a huge number, that's half the population.

Then the Chinese are able to basically roam around everything in your phone, getting all your contact information, your passwords, your banking whatever is there that it ends up on a Chinese server. And then when times come where the Chinese want to do something in America they want to mobilize a riot, let's say they can go through the database, you know, geographically, by the proclivities of the user, and basically be able to target an ideal audience to get

mobilized about a cause. And I think it was really illustrated, perhaps best recently after Zel was invaded on October seventh of twenty twenty three by Hamas. Wasn't it kind of surprising that within months there were all these demonstrations on college and university campuses across the country in yes, simultaneously in favor of the Hamas terrorist organization. They are terrorists.

And you know, people may not think favorably of Israel, but by and large, most Americans recognize that there is not much there's a huge difference between these two, you know, Hamas being a terrorist organization and the Israelis being a pretty robust democracy with a lot of diversity. So how is it that all these campus movements for hamas with all got mobilized. Well, it turns out that TikTok played a big role. It's you know, it's it's really amazing

that that we have allowed this to happen. So Donald Trump learned about the political nature of TikTok at the end of his first term and he, uh, he banned it. He wanted to see it banned, but uh, it actually didn't go into effect and it was or or it was protested and it can't and it was up to the Biden administration uh to put it out of action, and the Biden administration sort of sat on it. And

now it's now now it's in the once again. It's in the in the UH, in the political court, and Donald Trump has given it a seventy five day grace period to restructure itself. And I'm dubious that you really can restore ructure TikTok.

Speaker 4

Frankly, in fact, part of your column, you say the fall.

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According to Sam fat As, a twenty year veteran of the CIA, TikTok is four or five times more intrusive than Facebook and harvesting data from Americans who have downloaded the app, and that means they have all kinds of information emails, text accounts, banking account numbers, other information gets sucked out of devices, ends up on servers in China.

And the malware problem which is existing in all of our electrical grid, banking systems, car loans, etc. The Chinese have infiltrated every important aspect and they could really shut down our economy. And you point out in your column about the fighting philosophies of the old Chinese, which is win without firing a shot. It's the art of war which elaborates on various approaches to deception in order to

defeat the enemy without shooting. And I think the American military after nineteen ninety one Persian Golf War one, the Chinese said, you know what, we can't defeat this entity on the battlefield. Let's get them on drugs, take down through malware every important business system in the country, which they have the ability to do. Let's send air balloons all over the country that divide did not shoot down.

Let's have five thousand of our students every month go into American universities, and let's buy up land around military bases. And then let's create this TikTok app which downloads his information so when George Floyd did what George Floyd did in Minneapolis, all of a sudden, one hundred American cities began to burn because TikTok was activated. And so the question is this, Scott Powell, can it even be stopped?

At this point? Here we are in February of twenty twenty five, and I guess the President's got about another sixty days or so.

Speaker 4

Can it be stopped? Your column seems to indicate maybe not.

Speaker 10

Well, I think it can be stopped. The question is would we really ban it and eliminate it from the American culture or would we try to restructure it. We certainly can't have a Chinese partner.

Speaker 5

Why and why would we?

Speaker 10

Why would we want to even try to do that? It's it's it's fabricated, it's designed by the Chinese. It probably has back doors in it. So I just don't know if it could be successfully done. So when in doubt, don't take a chance ban TikTok from from America, from being able to operate in America. And and if someone wants to, uh, you know, create a look alike to TikTok, and there are companies. I think Triller is one such company that could actually fill the gap. But I'm not

I'm not worried about that. We've got to protect our culture. We've got to protect young people from being indoctrinated. Uh. And TikTok is a medium that is being used by our avowed enemy China to demoralize young Americans to think ill of America and to be naive about about China.

Speaker 5

Uh.

Speaker 10

You know, an important part of Chinese unrestricted warfare against US is to deceive Americans into believing that Mainlin in China is just a normal state, a country that honors international norms. And the net result of some two generations of this deception warfare has been a psychological disarmament of the United States. I mean, most people don't think ill of China.

Speaker 4

No, I do.

Speaker 3

I think the government, not the people, but the government, yes, the people know.

Speaker 10

We always have to differentiate between the government and the people. The Chinese people, for the most part, are wonderful people. It is the CCP, the Communist Party of China, that is the great threat to America.

Speaker 3

You say about the George Floyd riots, TikTok had so much accurate information on individual Americans through their many years of data collection TikTok decision makers are able to target likely rioters with certain TikTok information that was partially false mainly lies. They also provide a professional advice on how to do maximum damage while caping the perpetrator safe from being arrested. And then you go on to talk about the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine. So I found

this unbelievable. Another speaker, Grant Nusham, a retired colonel US Marine Corps SEMPIFI, focus on CPC's use of the TikTok to in doctrinate US military explain what they're doing to our military. Of course, military is comprised mainly of young Americans between eighteen and thirty five years old. What's the Chinese doing with the military?

Speaker 10

Well, first of all, let's look at the size of our military that are being targeted. It's about there's about one point three million active duty troops in seven hundred and sixty eight thousand National Garden Reserve members as well as the new recruits. But as you point out, Nusham concluded by noting that you just have to manipulate the military a little bit to make a military much less effective.

So the Chinese are very crafty, and they are looking for any entry point, any weakness, and once they're in, they can affect they can affect the military military capability. I mean, we've we're now in a in a one of the worst places we've been in with after the four years of Biden, because the military became so demoralized.

You know, we had the the uh travesty, the botched you know, uh retreat from Afghanistan, and then we introduced DEI and critical race theory to all the military branches, and this, you know, this did more to demoralize people in the military and it and it became known outside of the military that the military, you don't want to go into the military. You don't want to go into such a place where you'll be you know, uh, where you'll be subject to propaganda and and manipulation and and

indoctrination and critical race theory. Uh So, anyway, it's it's it's great that we have a new day with Trump and a lot of this is being corrected as we speak, and it couldn't come soon enough.

Speaker 3

Frankly, talk about the ways Chinas think they're going to defeat us. Number one, economically, we're told within five or six years, the Chinese will have the same economy that we have. They have a trillion dollar plus deficit when it comes to trade between US and China. They have a trillion dollars of our dollars. Our products can't get to China. Their products come into this country. They're building a huge factory in Mexico to produce these electric vehicles,

hoping that Trump will leave office in four years. They can flood the country with them. So they want to take us down economically. They want to take down our power grid, or we might recall a few months ago there was a Ford motor Dealers had a terrible time going online because of malware to make deals be consummated online. They couldn't do that. They can take down the banking systems, take down the power grid. In addition to that, on

the southern border, they're coming across with fentanyl. I have a guest coming up later to talk about what they're doing with fentanyl on the southern border. So it is not meeting us directly. The philosophy, the fighting philosophy, the art of war about various approaches to a strategic deception to defeat America without firing a shot and right now, the majority of young Americans come out of college hating

the country, hating the way it was founded. Then they get into companies or in the government with Dei principles everywhere, and you're coming out out thinking this country's not worth fighting for. And the answer is, this is the most mortal threat to our continuance as a great nation, so much worse than uss Are, which was never an economic power, only a missile power. And Russia continues to putts along.

But the Chinese right now are changing the minds of our kids' minds to mush there, indoctrinate them through TikTok with anti American propaganda. When a terrible event takes place in some city, it becomes a race event all over the country. When the Hamas, who are murderers, kill two thousand or so innocent to Israelis, suddenly we're training innocent Israeli's in exchange for one hundred or one thousand murderers from Amas. Everywhere I look, I see I see great challenges.

The present danger is unbelievable. And you have in your column here that that they've harvested this information. And what can be done to get the information back is the answer. Nothing can be done. You have to eliminate the act.

Speaker 10

I don't think I don't think you can get the information back. What we need to do is stop the flow of information and and then stop the you know, the use of TikTok in America is because they use that information through the TikTok system, you know, to to brainwash and propagandize the users of TikTok in this country. So let's let's just cut it off. And I think Trump needs to we need to put pressure on Donald Trump.

He's you know, he he heard that TikTok was used successfully to mobilize the youth vote for him in the November fifth election. It's probably true, but this is how TikTok will operate. They will throw you a bone of doing something that's good for you, good for your you know, your country, or good for a candidate in the country, and then we kind of let our guard down. Well it's it's not really Chinese propaganda. Look what they've done

to help Donald Trump get elected. Well, they they're pretty confident that if they can, if the same trends can stay in place, that we're going to be a defeated nation. Then they're going to be the ascendant nation in a matter of five years or so.

Speaker 3

And Scott Powell, lastly, what they're doing in Panama Canal. When you read I thought in the beginning, Jimmy Carter, those of us around at the time, the tens of thousands of lives that were lost, they're billions of dollars. We built the canal, Jimmy Carter gave it away, and here we are forty some years later, and now the Chinese controlled the canal, the management of the canals. Through

the Chinese. They go to Peru and other countries on the western shore of South America, build magnificent ports that they control. They also could with a snap of their fingers, stop the war in Ukraine by telling Russia that said, Vladimir, you're done. They want to control the Philippines, Australia. This is the most serious threat to America since the British burned the White House in like eighteen fourteen, in the

War of eighteen twelve. I read this and I'm thinking, you got to be kidding Meed, and most of the American people don't know the facts about the Panama Canal, about what they're what the Chinese are doing there in the Panama Canal. And this is a brutal regime who couldn't care less about civil rights. What they do to the to the Wigers, which is an obliteration of the Wigers, a Muslim sect in China. And the Chinese government controls as much as they can and they're not going to stop.

Jijao Ping can go away. But guess what the next leader will have the same attitude. And it is you put TikTok and your column is great in townhall dot com about it. But this is one of many things they're doing.

Speaker 4

Correct.

Speaker 10

Oh, absolutely, Now they have an approach known as unrestricted warfare. Unrestricted in other words, there's nothing off the table in the warfare that they're conducting against us. They will use trade, they will use economic warfare, they will use fentanyl, they

will use cyber attacks. I mean, Chris Ray admitted, you know, the former FBI director is on record telling us that that the cyber attacks that China commits against the United States are are I forget whether he said one hundred times greater than all the other cyber attacks of other nations in the world. In other words, the focus of the Chinese is to destroy America, to undermine America. And they've done a very good job. And so we've we've got to wake up to that, recognize that we've got

to really change. You know, we've gotten out of the business of promoting of educating people. Is let's say, in a hostile country like China, and it's hostile on the government level, the Chinese people could be turned against their own regime if they if they were educated about the virtues of liberty outside of China. I mean, these people live under a totalitarian system.

Speaker 3

And we've got to run happiness, Scott Powell. The column is great unrestricted warfare against our country economically by drugs, by human trafficking, by TikTok, by the trade deficit, et cetera. We got to run Scott Powell once again. It's all over a town hall dot com. Scott Powell, You're a great American and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Scott, Thank you.

Speaker 10

Bill.

Speaker 3

Let's continue with more the line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven, seven three three seven. Bill cunning In the Great American with you every Sunday night. Billy Cunningham, The Great American multi dimensional warfare without firing a shot. That's the Chinese philosophy. And we need a president that recognizes the risk of the continuation of the American way of life. And we didn't have one, and now I know we got one. Every which way they come after us.

A trillion dollar trade deficit with China. That's got to stop. Let's continue with more. Israel Ellis's next about Jamas, Bill cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night, Willie brough You.

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By Bully Cuningham, The Grand American, of course. Doctor Israel Elis is one of the experts in the Middle East. His book The Wake Up Call, Global Jihad and the Rise of Anti Semitism in the World Gone Mad. Now that Trump is in the White House, I believe Benjamin Nenton, Yahoo scheduled to be in Washington on Tuesday. The first foreign visitor is the leader of Israel, which I think

is a good sign to send. Whenever I see all these host is being released by these murderers called a Moss, and I look at the reaction of the crowds in Gaza, and then I look at the fresh faces coming out. I'm amazed they're in relatively good shape after more than four hundred days in horrible captivity, living like a mole or a rat in the ground. It's disgusting what a Muss put the Israeli through. I'm reminded by the fact that maybe this thing is not in the way we

would want. I would think that when I see Israeli hostages being released and there's hundreds of A Moss fighters in appropriate guarb with the AK forty sevens shouting death to Jews, death to America, I'm thinking, all we've done is delay the inevitable. So nonetheless, but doctor Israel ellis

welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And I would assume Israel that you're happy that Benjamin antiniall, who's going to be here on Tuesday to talk to the President, etc. But tell me your feelings about the deal.

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Itself.

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And if you can focus on this, I assume that one Israeli is worth a hundred or one thousand Alastinian murderers. So the Gosins give back Israeli soldiers, men, women, and children, and then in in exchange, Israel releases one to five hundred murderers and rapists and thiefs serving life sentences. That doesn't seem fair to me.

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Well, Bill, And first of all, thank you for having me back in your show. Very much appreciated. And got to correct you. I'm not a doctor, but but thank you very much appreciate it. It's us a regular, regular academic, maybe an intellectual. You'll want to push it, yep, hey, listen.

You know, definitely, writing the book The wake Up Call was really a calling for me based on what was going around and what was going on since October seventh and seeing the rise of anti Semitism and seeing that just what I saw is the crazy dissonance going on in the world of things, of the bizarre things that were happening and I and I guess writing that book was outlet for me. And I'm really happy to have

the opportunity to share information, really valid information, uh. With the public about what happened on October seventh and what is the aftermath, because we're really at the crossroads. We're at the crossroads of what to do next. We as a world, we are a country. Let's talk about the hostage, the one what do you want to call it, the cease fire deal and the resulting sort of Hosses exchange.

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I think we're all on the same page.

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I mean, it is bizarre and and and you know, when we deal with people's lives, and we deal with people's lives and we commodetize them as sort of this is a deal and this is an exchange. I mean, use the words that you know, Gaza was giving back that is I mean, I.

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Appreciate the words. I appreciate what.

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You're saying, but you know they don't own anything to give back, and you certainly you know, you know, don't own human lives. I mean, these animals, you know, they there's no other way I can describe the lovers of death. They went in into piltrated Israel in the most brutal way and kidnapped these people who are now the remaining hostages. In the four hundred and seventy nine days they've been there.

It's always been disproportionate in terms of releasing hostages, or releasing and exchanging prisoners and things like that when it came to Israel and the Arab enemies of Israel. But look at you know, you're right, a life, I can't put a number on it. We can't put a number on it. But a Jewish soul is really worth whatever it takes to bring them home. We have a commandment in the Old Testament that you know, we have to do everything we can to redeem people and to bring

them back, and so Israel will do whatever it takes. Unfortunately, we are put in that position where we must negotiate with terrorists, which is also bizarre. And we will do everything we can to bring back our citizens, to bring back Jewish people back into Israel and reunite them with their families, and then you know, we'll deal with the disproportionism later.

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We will.

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We will definitely deal with Hamas. There is no way that Hamas can return to power. They're using this situation to leveraging it to their advantage. It's pretty disgusting what we all saw the other day with the release.

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Of the last release of hostages and just the way.

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That the crowds, you know, gathered gathered around these this poor woman and the poor hostages that were being released, the intimation they must have felt by that. It's very, very scary, really encouraged by the news that your Denbivas is amongst the next hostages to.

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Be freed on Saturday, although.

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You know the uncertain state of his family. I mean, he is going to be release. He has probably not seen his family, probably has no idea what's happened to his two beautiful children, two beautiful children, and his wife. And unfortunately, we're we're thinking, you know, the worst about his wife and two young boys, and and and you know, Hamas is saying that they've been killed in the Israeli air strike, but we have not verified that. There's absolutely

no accountability there. But imagine, imagine the pain that he's about to face coming.

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Out of there.

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It is just unbelievable. What these lovers of death have, you know, have have forced the world to recognize them, have forced people to negotiate with terrorists. It's really really demoralizing to see ourselves in this impossible position.

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But we love life. We're lovers of life, just like yourself. Bill we can to presume.

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You know, from my perspective as an America that supports Isra a one thousand percent. I guess I fear that at the end of the day in a year or two, if we get back together in six months or whatever, that Hamas is still in charge of Gaza, that billions or trillions of dollars of eight is flowing in, and that Hamas is still the entity that represents Gozans, and no other part of the Middle East want the Palestinian people.

The Egyptians don't want them, Geraanians don't want them, Lebanese don't want them, the Syrians don't want them, Saudi Arabia, the Empirates don't want them. Whatever it is, they're not wanted anywhere, and they can't live among the rubble. It looks like a World War II in Dresden. So you can't live among the rubble. The Trumpster said, well, it's

a million, million and a half. Maybe they disperse them around the Middle East, but nobody wants them, and you can't live in rubble as a consequence, But wouldn't it be disgusting if at the end of the day in six months or a year, guess what Hamas is still in charge, getting un money, getting contributions all over the world, especially from Iran, that somehow all this was for not not Hamastill controls Gaza.

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Is that an outcome that's possible?

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This is listen, anything as possible, especially when it comes to the Middle East, and when you look over seventy five years at history of what's gone on, there really nothing seasons to surprise me.

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It is a really.

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Good sign that Ninten Yahoo, that Benjamin Anton Yaho's coming to be one of the first leaders to have a in person relation and in person meeting with President Trump. And that's a very positive sign. And I'm sure that if we were a fly on the wall there that you know, we'd be really happy with what is being discussed.

But I can only imagine that you know, on top of the list is really the head of the snake, and that is a rand and you talk about the moss and you talk about different proxies of terror, Well, you know, we need to deal with the head of the snake. And the world is global, The world is highly connected, and it's not just about what's happening in Israel as a vacuum. And in terms of what's happening

in America. It's very very connected in Israel. I'm not Israeli, I'm Canadian, but my son lives in Israel and we visit Israel often, and of course our lives and our culture are rooted in Israel. And we appreciate, I appreciate the relationship, the Close Relationship Bill that the United States shairs with Israel, and that Israel shares with the United States. We got address the elephant in the room, right and that is Iran. And the Iranian regime is the single

most vocal really emmy of America. I mean, they are constantly chanting death to America, burning effigy to the flag and people.

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And things like that.

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I mean, how long can we go on for with this? But as long as the Iranian regime is in business, then unfortunately they will find ways to fund and to bring into the center their proxies, their terrorist proxies.

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And if it's not a.

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Mass it's just gonna be it's gonna be the hoodie. And if it's not the hooty, it's gonna be Hasbella. And if it's not, then it's going to be Isis and it's going to be someone else, and it's always someone else because you know, unfortunately, it's like a game of Whakama when it comes to terrorists, right, you crush one and something else so another one pops up. No, we gotta go to the source. We got to go you know where the source is, and we got to

cut off the funding. You're absolutely right, Bill, there is money being fooled.

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Oh wow, what a play of words.

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I was gonna say there's money being fueled.

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But you know what, that money is being fueled by.

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Fools, no question, and that they think, you know, until that Ron says, until hesbela Hamas, until the the al Qaeda, and until they say Israel has a right to exist. We want to live in peace with Israel. We're not gonna anymore teaching the schools to hatred of the Jew, who they picture as dogs, rats and mice. We're not going to do that anymore. We want to live in peace.

And the reason Iran will not do that is that their governance is so bad and so awful that they need some outside entity to blame on the conditions their policies have caused in Iran, so much like the Jew in Germany, when all Hitler blamed the jew for all the difficulties of the nineteen thirties that were caused by his policies. They were the convenience scapegoats. The same scapegoat mentality exists today until Hamas says, okay, we lost you one.

Here's your hostages. We're not going to have schools anymore teaching hate towards Jews, Christians and Americans. We're done with that. We want to live in peace. What Hamas hesblah the hooties when al Qaeda says, I want to live in peace with Jews and Americans wherever they be located. Let's get to work on our own societies. Until that happens, the enemies must be obliterated.

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They must be eliminated.

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You can't lead Nazi Germany like in Febeus you worry four nineteen forty five, when Adolf Hitler or the Nazis still in charge, and right now it appears from the relation of Amas is in charge.

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Can't do it.

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And you know what when Nazi, when Hitler and Nazi Germany was being decimated and they were being brought down and we were, you know, becoming victorious over them, no one stood there with sandwiches. No one came in with humanitarian aid to support these guys and say, oh, you know, let's see these soldiers, let's let's you know, they know we decimated them, and that is exactly what has to happen here. You're absolutely right with Amas. You know, Bill I wrote The wake Up Call and by the way,

please your listeners, it's available on Amazon. Please go ahead and buy The wake Up Call and by Israel Ellison and learn about learn about you know exactly what happened on October seventh, learn about you know why the baseless claims of occupancy or calling in side is Bill is being accused of.

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It's just terrible. It's just terrible.

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But you know, the most important thing of a here is to identify and to understand this relationship that has happened. And you're absolutely right. It's the classic red Karen. Iran needs to detract. Ultimately, it all comes down to big business and it comes down to power. But Iranian, the Iranian regime has another agenda. It's a deadly agenda, and

it's called the Global Jihad. And the global Jihad is about infiltrating Jihattis into the neighborhoods of America, the neighborhoods of Western society, and they are doing it and they're being successful at it.

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They have put.

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Together you know, I don't want to get paranoid, go back to the McCarthy area. Macarthury have reads under the bed. But what we have here in this time, in our generation, right now, we've got jihadis under the bed, if you want to call it that way. And you can see it happening. There have been over forty thousand terrorists attacks since nine to eleven. We recently sign on January first, New Orleans. Terrible people being mowed down from a guy.

And that's what's happened. They are not lone wolf attacks. These are the Jahadas. This is what's happening with a coordinated effort from Iran to go ahead and to undermine America.

And we've got to stop it. And I'm really hoping that during this meeting between NAT and YAHOO and President Trump that there's discussions about exactly where those two thousand pounds bonds that are being delivered to Israel, where some of them hopefully are going to make it make their way to destroy the nuclear capabilities and by the way

we all know this Iran. It's not just about their their proxyateare and it's not just about the red herring with reguards to their own economy and how they've devastated their own country and their own people. It's about their nuclear ambitions.

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Bill.

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Remember, they're going to become a nuclear power if they're not stop soon. These guys, these terrorists, these segistic mad men, are going to become a nuclear power in the world. And then what are we going to do? So we got we gotta deal with this. And I'm really camping on the fact that the Trumpman administration. You know that the Biden administration, really we know, they.

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Drop the ball.

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They bent their knee. They thought, oh, we're going to negotiate with these people. There is no negotiation. There is no Mads theory. And that's why the book is called The World Has Gone Mad because mutually a sure destruction does not apply anymore. We need to take out the head.

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Of the stink e israel Alis books, Wake Up call. I tell you what.

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Until Hamas unconditionally surrenders, gives back to the hostages and pledge to live in peace. And I think that's a pipe dream because These guys are committed murderers. They live and die to kill Jews, to rape Jewish women, to kill babies. That's why they exist.

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You know what, I know it.

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Yeah, it's not going to stop, and it's not going to stop until they are stopped. And I hope the meeting on Tuesday has some measurable impact. Lastly, about a minute remaining, are you I see the Trumpster is going to get off college campuses those students who are a shouting death to Israel, antisemitic remarks, putting cement in the plumbing of Columbia University. I think that's a positive step for all these colleges universities that harbor hamas sympathizers and we support them.

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Also get them, get them the hell out of the country.

Speaker 5

Absolutely, they're people who's post hatred on social media and you know who intimidate Jewish students on campuses and continue to do these things. They're not even probably students, and they're probably paid protesters from Iran. Anyone caught doing that, there should be a policy. That policy does exist, by the way, in Western Europe in some places, there should be a no zero tolerance policy of you do that, you're gone. We're going to come and collect you. Your

visa is canceled. You are the next plane out of here.

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Goodbye.

Speaker 5

This is not America. This is not what we want anymore. So let's hopefully that happens. Bill.

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I want to thank you so.

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Much for having me on your show again. I look forward to joining you anytime you want to talk about this and spreading the good word and fighting the good fright and making sure that the people out there, your listeners are aware of what's going on. And the wake up call Global Gihead and the rise of anti Semitism in a world Gode Mad available on Amazon, and you can also connect with me on my website at Israel Elis dot com. I invite the conversation. I invite people

to become informed, and I invite the discussion. Please anyone out there feel free to get in touch with.

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Me Israel Ellis dot com, Israel. Once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. I will make you a doctor irrespective of your objections. I think you're a healer of the problems and therefore we need more like you. And the ignorance on college campuses and among many Democrats is despicable and the truth will set us all free and make it.

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God bless us big.

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Thank you so much. God bless you too and your support. And I am out there speaking to campuses now. We're speaking to students, speaking to the crowds about who wants to be informed about this. And I am happy to come and speak to anyone out there that wants to listen. And thank you again for having me. Bill appreciate the doctorship as well.

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God bless America. Israelis thank you very much. Thank you, Bill Cunningham, the Grand American live with you every Sunday. Hi, Billy Cunningham, And I think it's very noteworthy that Heart, if you love president having his first foreign visitor is Benjamin Netchiahu. He's the only president in American history that has Jewish grandchildren. He cares deeply about Israel and it's success.

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Bill Cunningham, the Great American, of course. Last Sunday, CBS Morning News, Margaret Brennan kind of one.

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After JD.

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Vance the columns written here by Bill Donoghue of the Catholic League and Michael McDonald, CBS sides with the bishops. I can't recall the time when the mainstream media CBS is among the worst, actually took the side of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. But they dead last

Sunday when questioning JD. Vance to make him look bad, and it dealt with whether or not the immigration policies of the Trump administration was in concert with the desires of the Catholic Conference Bishops and of course Margaret Brennan, the CBS faced the nation kind of took the side of the Catholic Church against JD Vance, which I thought was quite interesting. Jodan you and I now is Michael McDonald the Catholic League in New York City, and Mike,

welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. So when I read this column by your cohort, Bill Donnie, who talks about CBS signing with the bishops, how surprised were you?

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Bill?

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It's always good to be with you, But you know what, for the last what four years, for years of darkness that we've had descend upon the country. We had perhaps the most ath anti Catholic president in American history, the most anti Catholic administration in American history, pushing things that were not just you know, Okay, that's a little out of step. You know, maybe we could do things a little different. These are complete departures from the Catholic Church

and its teachings. For the last four years, the Biden administration had gone way off the reservation from promoting anything that looked resembling, anything that looks like not even just Catholic, but that an honest, good person of faith would recognize as being conducive to human flourishing. Completely ignored all that by the mainstream media. They didn't challenge him once on that.

They were very quick to remind us how he was at about Catholic He had the Rosary in his pockets, and you know, he was always upset about Boe or something like that, and those were really every story that he got on, Oh, the bishops are being mean to Joe Biden. But now you get JD. Vance in there, who is a convert to Catholicism, and you get Margaret Brennan who just goes right after wantum on a deeply

personal question. I mean, we can get into the policies of this, but let's not forget that there is a bit of a history between Margaret Brennan and JD. Vance During the vice presidential debate back in October. She was the one who cut him off when he was completely right about the CBP app and not only interrupted him to fact check him which he was wrong on and he was correct, but then turned off his mic because he was right. So there's a bit of a history there.

And you know, CBS they edited the Kambala Harris sixty minutes. They edited Mike Johnson when he was on with Margaret Brennan. So these guys have proven that they are not good faith actors. And to go after someone's faith and try and make them look like they're not living up to it completely on national television, I think that's wrong.

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So on one hand, they wanted j D and indirectly Donald Trump to follow the dictates of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, But on the other hand, when we had the most Catholic president of all time, my tongue has firmly planted in my cheek. Joe Biden rarely, if ever to the mainstream media ask Joe Biden, how come your beliefs on abortion or transgender rights or school choice all against the Catholic faith, neutering faith based programs. The

Department of Justices probe of Catholics. They thought the Department of Justice thought the Catholics, especially the Knights of Columbus, or like a right wing white supremacist group that had to be investigated. They also rescinded Trump's policies defending the rights of Christian students on college campuses. They forced Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and sexuary assignment surgery. Under Joe Biden, the Catholic president, they singled out pro

life Catholics for breaking the Face Act. And thank god, there's been about thirteen or fourteen men and women released from federal prison. So I have all these occasions when the Catholic president was to odds with the Catholic faith, and at no point that CBS, NBC, ABC or PBS, which might be the worst of all, called Joe Biden

to task for opposing the Catholic bishops. But the one time on immigration when the opposite took place, they're there with that smile that Grinn and I found the whole interview disgusting.

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Oh it completely was discussing and just going back on the abortion thing. Year ring and year out. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops have said that the preeminent issue for Catholic voters is abortion. That is the top issue. So that's not like something that you can sort of say, okay, well we have a different policy idea on this. First that like you can with immigration, immigration is not something that is central to the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Should we be nice to people, Absolutely, we should be nice to people. You can't go around killing people, which is what abortion is. Abortion is the intentional killing of an unborn child. And during the Joe Biden administration, the great devout Catholic that he was, Mike tongue is practically coming out my cheek. He was such a terrible president on that issue. They hounded the pro lifers activists, putting

them in jail. The Face Act was used more under Joe Biden than all the other presidents since it was incepted back in the nineties. This should tell you where his position was. And the Equality Act, another legislative push from the Biden administration has been routinely called by the Catholic bishops in this country as the single greatest threat to religious liberty because it would completely gut any semblance

of religious protections. We get rid of the nineties law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, it would force Catholic hospitals to form abortions. The transgender madness, they have to go along with that as well. And these are just things that are not just a little out of us, up their ferry, out of step. And never once do the mainstream media, not Margaret Brenton, for sure, pull out Joe Biden for any of this.

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Well, the one time something did a car I remember Nancy Pelosi while she was a speaker. I guess she's the speaker emeritus right now. She won her Catholic bishop in San Francisco denied her communion. She quickly flew to the Vatican, got on her knee before Pope Francis and received communion. Are got permission? Did you find that particularly disgusting? I hate to criticize the Pope. I know you do too,

But France is more or less accept Nancy Pelosi. Another they say, on one hand, they're Catholic on the other hand, they're in favor of abortion up through birth.

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Isn't that somewhat wrong?

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But it absolutely is wrong, and it is completely out of step with the teaching of the Church to hold a position like that. And I would say this, you know another thing that I just find offensive about this. If the average show Catholic is a problem with this, you know, his local bishop. He can't just fly to Rome and say, hey, I want to be in good standing. He has to do penance and reform. But she used her position of power to get an audience with the Pope to somehow

try and excuse her terrible policies that she supports. And you know, I find that extremely hypocritical on her part. And the Catholic Church were all supposed to be very equal, and it was one of the big things that Pope Francis's push that we got to start looking after the little guy. But you know, here we are just taking care of of the Washington insider of insiders, one of the most wealthy women in the country, most powerful woman in the country, and she just gets an audience with

the Pope. Yeah, I think that's a little out of step on her part.

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And at the end of his presidency, Joe Biden as scheduled to go to the Vatican on the eighteenth of January to kiss the ring one more time. And I'm sure he would have been whined and dined by the Pope. He would have been accepted. And no one, no current American president, has been more anti religious, anti Catholic.

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Than Joe Biden.

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But he keeps playing up the fact he's got a rosier in his pocket and he's a Catholic, providing cover for what he does against Christianity and against religion. I found that particularly disgusting. Also on your website, Catholic League dot org, there's a posting about corporations has to drop DEI policies, and Bill Donnegue relates that American culture is going through one of its periodic changes. One good change is the decision of companies to drop DEI divisive and effective.

And I read a story in the Wall Street Journal that DEI is an eight billion dollars a year business that in many parts of government, there's over two thousand employees in the federal government who are in the DEI departments of every agency of government. Two thousand employees and on top of that the colleges, universities and which there's thousands of DEI employees, and on top of that social media companies and on top of that like Costco for example, won't get rid of DEI, which is a form of

racial discrimination. And on your website you have a letter that click here, click there about which companies follow it, which companies do not follow it. Is DEI particularly a bad policy when it comes to discrimination against Asian students, or against the white men, or against trade individuals. Is it a particularly terrible sin that must be scoured out of America in your view?

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You know what?

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It is bad. I mean, it's not as bad as abortion, obviously, but this is just wrong because this is another thing that just flies in the teaching of the Catholic Church. You know, we believe that everyone is created in the image and likeness of God, and that's very important. That's what separated us from all the pagans that came before us.

The Judeo Christian tradition holds that to be true. And then you look at what the I says that you can judge somebody that there's always going to be a permanent power class, and there's always going to be a permanent victim class and it's just worlds is divided between the powerful that abuse the lower people, and you're automatically, just based on the accident of birth, thrown into one

of those categories or the other. That is wrong to teach that to children, to indoctrinate them into thinking that they're perpetually going to be victims and that they're perpetually going to be bullied over by other people just because of the accident of their birth. That is wrong in terms of wrong mindset. It's debilitating. Not only do you have all these you know, HR departments and the government and private sector and the colleges and universities are a

hopeless case. Not only are you losing money and stifling innovation there, but you're just strangling these kids with this notion that they can never succeed. Like you mentioned, it's killing the advantage and I really advantage that the Asians work very hard to get into elite colleges. That's their advantage, that they actually work hard to pursue their education and they get slapped in the face.

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Not for you.

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Straight white men aren't being promoted. Straight people in general, or you know, they don't have enough points. And you know, this is another thing that comes up on college campus all the time, is the Christian privilege that people of faith, Christians in particular, have some sort of inherent advantage, and they're out there lording it over the poor little atheists who are just kept down and they have this notion of society is wrong. It is a sign that society

is deeply ill. And thank god, we're doing something about that, correcting and people are waking up.

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Lastly, Michael McDonald of the Catholic League dot org in New York City, I saw a report in the Wall Street Journal that twenty five percent of incoming freshmen of public colleges universities identify as an alternative lifestyle LGB two TQ plus plus twenty five percent. I see in various publications that in public grade schools, well I'm talking about eight nine ten year olds, they're introduced to the world

of homosexuality or the world of transgender rights. I see that the preaching of alternative lifestyles to boys and girls. I can't tell how many girls were like tom boys, how many boys may be dressed up like girls whatever. That doesn't mean a sex and gender aren't the same. In fact, I'm told by the experts that gender is a social construct that you can identify as something different

than what you are, and you become that entity. While sex is xx or x y, that gender is one hundred and seven different genders recognized by Disney and by Costco and others. And so that difficulty, shall we say, has permutated itself into the groundwater. And now six, seven, eight nine year olds are being told that if you feel you're in the wrong kind of a body, a different kind of a body, there's a way out of that.

And I know that doesn't happen in Catholic schools, it's said, but some of the most liberal universities about that are like Georgetown or Catholic University, and they're preaching the same gender multiplicity as as many of the Ohio states and

the US's and the University of Chicago's. Is a particularly evil for the public skill system, instead of teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, for example, to be dealing with transgender transsexual rights and to promote the idea that hormones will solve your problem.

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Oh, absolutely, this is just morally wrong on the face of it. And you know, a little thing that doesn't get spoken about enough but should be. But because teachers have to spend time on this nonsense, kids are not precisely learning reading, writing, and arithmetic. And that's why one of the reasons we're trailing.

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The rest of the world.

Speaker 16

But it is entirely wrong to tell an eight nine year old that you need to go out and alter your entire physical reality in a way that cannot be done because every single cell in your body is imprinted with xx or x y down to the cellular level. You cannot get past it. Nature is nature. And instead of telling children, you know, find things that you like about yourself, grow into the person that you're supposed to be, go out there and sell them a bill of goods.

It's never going to anything that is going to distort, you know, physically, maim them, mess with their psychology, the whole nine yards. Everything's going to get messed up with these kids. And to be promoting this is a good I mean, I'll say this, Thank God we live in Donald Trump's America, where now we don't recognize gender, but we recognize sex. Biology and science are triumphing reason and triumphing once again, and people of faith are now no

longer being discriminated because that was happening a lot. You know, look at in Colorado, the baker out there, he wanted to he didn't want to bake a cake for a LGBT wedding. Then they went after him again because he wouldn't bake a cake for a transgender affirming surgery. I

guess they get cake for that. Apparently that's the thing now, And they were going after Christians were not accepting this incredibly destructive ideology and holding truth to not only biblical principles but also scientific reality.

Speaker 3

Well, in reality, gender is determined at conception and then revealed at birth or before if you have certain photos taken to the baby in utero. But you know, gender is determined at the moment of conception and it's revealed at birth, and you can't change that. You can act as if there's something different than what you are, but

that's not the case. Well, Michael McDonald Catholic League dot Org got the website up, but uh not to go after Biden's policies relative to abortion and transgender issues and forcing Catholic doctors and hospitals to perform abortions and sexuary assignment surgeries against their faith. The media would never hold Joe Biden to account for that, but they went after j. D. Vance Hard, who by the way, goes to my church

in Cincinnati, OHI. I went after him hard because he wasn't in concert with the bishops on the issue of immigration. But once again, Mike MacDonald, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Mike, you're a great American. Thank you very much.

Speaker 16

Thanks, Bill, You're great American.

Speaker 4

God bless you.

Speaker 11

Ill.

Speaker 3

Let's continue with more and there it is the media will use their platform to continue their liberal political beliefs, irrespective of the facts. Bill cunning In The Great American, Live with you every Sunday night, Tony Billy cunning In the Great American. It's always difficult for practicing the Roman Catholic to speak ill of the policy decisions of the Bishop Conference and also the Pope himself, Francis, who has

Argentiian socialist tendencies. But the Catholic League, Mike McDonald and others understand that only the Pope is infallible when talking about faith and morals, and this is not one of the issues for which he's infallible, and he's no more better at these issues than anyone else, and so I

know it's difficult. I went to Mass this morning and I took the Eucharist, and I'm a practicing Roman Catholic not happy with the policy decisions of the Bishop Conference that's trying to tie the hands of Donald Trump and open up the southern border to maybe another four to five hundred million who want to come into this country. I might say, illegally. What part of illegal doesn't don't

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Speaker 3

Bill Cause continue now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and of course on the southern border. There's only one reporter I check in with from NewsNation, that's Ali Bradley about what's happening. The media reports that there's been a ninety five percent reduction in border crossings.

Speaker 4

Where does life find you today?

Speaker 3

If there's not much to report on, I'm told by the media everything's great, is it true?

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 17

Hey, Bill, thanks for having me. I'm down here in Ego Paths, staring at Shelby Park. A lot of movement down here with Texas Military Governor Abbit making some more moves, expanding operations down here. So you know, you talk about, Hey, we're only looking at you know, around six hundred encounters a day at border patrol, six hundred and fourteen encounters yesterday. Four hundred and twelve of them were from Mexico. As you just mentioned, that's hot off the process from a source.

I'm looking at numbers right now. Eighty nine of them are from Guatemala, sixty four were from Hondura. So we're looking at a lot of northern triangle. What's wild is only see twelve people from Venezuela. Bill, when we were seeing thousands of people from Venezuela. Of course, that's a nationality that's kind of been targeted by the Trump administration because of Trende Ragua, which is that very violent gang that kind of sprung out of Venezuela and is now

present in what Tony Gonzalez represented. Tony Gonzalez down here in Texas believes is they're present in all fifty states, right, So they're seeing these numbers absolutely plummet. But here's the issue. Don't let your guard down. Don't turn your eyes off the border, because we saw something very similar at the end of Title forty two. You'll recall this, and the reason why is it takes time for the cartel to

see how we're doing things. The cartel, according to Congress, is a thirteen billion dollars a year industry just smuggling human beings into our country illegally. So you think they're just going to stop, You think they're going to give up because Trump's in office, they're seeing what we're doing. At the end of Title forty two, my york Is tood there and said all these scary things about how guess what Title eight is going to be in place?

Because that's the removal authority that is currently in place was in place before Title forty two was put back in place after Title forty two, which came with a five year ban, five thousand dollars fine, and ineligibility for asylum that was actually on the books in place under Biden over the last year but not enforced. They were doing catching release right where seeing these notices to appear dulled out every single day to the tune of thirty

three hundred back in January of twenty twenty three. Fast forward, we're seeing a handful of notices to appear right now because they have to give them out to son on the company, children and some family units have extreme cases. So there are still some that are going to be given out. But the cartel is waiting to see what we do. How are we enforcing this law? Are we turning them right back around? What are we doing At the end of Title forty two, we did not turn

people back around, We did not enforce Title eight. We let them in. So what happened December of twenty twenty four, three three hundred thousand plus people ended up crossing our southern border. The record breaking number that we saw that was again when we kind of said, ah, the border secure, right, it's quiet down, everything's kind of fixed. No, the cartel takes time to pivot when the US pivot. So that's why I'm saying, don't take your focus off of the

border just yet. Yes, all the chaos is in the interior right now with these ICE targeted enforcement operations, but the reality is the cartel is moving down. You're trying to figure out how to get those thousands of people Number one that we've kicked back over and a lot of them they pay the cartel once they get three shots to cross, Okay, so they go back to their plazabus friend and say, hey, cross me over through the river.

I'll evade this time, or all end up in the back of a trunk this time, or all end up in a semi truck. They're finding stash houses down here. They found tunnels in al Paso. We just talked to Victor Avola, who's a retired HSI and I special agent, who said they found even more tunnels in al Paso recently that are operational. We found out they were moving around eight hundred people a week through one tunnel in al Paso, and that included women from Venezuela who they

determined were being sex trafficked. So that is what's going on. And that was just a couple of weeks ago that they found that tunnel. So the cartel has not stopped operating. They're just giving us a little grace right now to get our bearings. They're seeing what we're doing, and then they're going to act. So we saw a shootout so to speak, between the cartel and the Border patrol down here in the Rio Grande Valley on Thorntun Island, which was actually known as Cartel Island because of all that

activity over there. Now Texas came in. They basically commandeered that lands and it's ours, cleared it, clear cut it so that there could be no smuggling activity on there anymore. So they took on fire the other day from the south side, from the Mexican side by suspected cartel gunmen. They were trying to move people across the border illegally

through the river, and so that happened. Apparently. Mike Banks, the new Border Patrol chiefs, said there were two different incidents of guns are exchanged this week with Border patrol. Now it's scary to hear that that, you know, the cartel has been given the quote green light to fire at agents. You know, over the last couple of months we've reported this, they're acting in kind of unprecedented ways

of desperation with this Trump administration. So while we're seeing these shootings happen, you know, and then and then we had a cartel guys shoot a hiker in El Centro sector. So we've had a lot of chaos with the cartels over the last week. And so what you know, we don't know how they're going to operate. Haven't seen what they're going to do. But agents tell me the shootouts, you know, taking on gunfire from the south side is regular. But again the cartel is operating differently, So head on

the swivel for them. They're not letting their guard down either. Just because they've taken on fire before doesn't mean that they're just going to go okay, well, this is business as usual. They are concerned. You know, I have a bulletproof gear now, for the first time. I've never had protective gear down at the border. Full disclosure. I never thought I needed it. Now I requested it. So now I have a full kit with me just in case because I don't know what's going to happen down here.

Speaker 3

So as far as the shootout, of course, we're told they're now designated as a terrorist group, international terrorist group, much like al Qaeda, in which the you know, the eighty second Airborne can wipe out al Qaeda. Do you see based upon Trump that if these shootouts continue, that if the cartel keeps shooting at our men and women, eventually there's going to be some killed, whether it's in

the border, god forbid a reporter or other people. They're going to do this and then we'll have snipers on the border. Could you see an actual time when Donald Trump says, okay, you killed two of our border agents. Here comes the eighty second airborne.

Speaker 17

Here's the issue.

Speaker 10

Bill.

Speaker 17

A lot of agents are actually frustrated that they haven't heard more from the Trump administration about these shootouts because of the designation. Right, They're like, wait a second, why are we going in there and you know, basically getting rid of them now they're shooting at agents. What is going Why isn't there a response? Now? Why are we going to wait for someone to get hurt? What is

going on there? Frustrated they haven't heard a statement. They've got, you know, the Border Patrol chief put out a state you know, a post on X. But they haven't heard Trump talk about it. They haven't heard him talk about these cartel terrorists or you know, are firing at agents.

We're going to handle it. They have no idea what the response from the Trump administration is going to be, because we haven't seen any response to like you said, they designated on that terrorist And here's what else is weird and I try to get answers out of this. But down here in Texas, they designated Trendy Arragua as a terrorist organization. They've nabbed several of them, but they're sitting in jail on state crimes. There's no terroristic infraction

on them at all. They're going to go in the game database. But what what did that do? What did a terrorist designation do to these guys?

Speaker 4

Nothing?

Speaker 17

They've got a state level prime for illegally entering, you know what I mean, Like they're not being they're not being leveled like a terrorist. So I don't know what's going to happen with this cartel, you know, interaction as of late. Maybe you know, Trump is all about strategy, maybe moving some pieces that we don't see Bill. But right now, like I said, agents are a little frustrated that the guy that they're like, we got, you know,

a guy that supports us, he's got our back. He's not going to come out and say anything about agents being fired on. They're kind of shocked by that. If I'm honest.

Speaker 3

As far as the numbers you talk, December of twenty twenty three, there was three hundred thousand known. Now it's six hundred and fifteen a day. If that continues, my simple deer park math tells me that's about eighteen thousand a month as opposed to three hundred thousand a month. Two thirds are Mexicans, and describe how a Mexican illegal is treated differently than someone, say from Venezuela or Uganda.

Speaker 4

How's that different?

Speaker 17

So when someone from Mexico comes over, I mean, the reality is this, my friend, people from Mexico don't qualify for asylum. We go over to Mexico to shop, to vacation to you know, unless it's an extreme case, they're not going to qualify for asylum. There are neighbors, there are partners Mexico, so you know, for them to come over here and claim asylum. That was not most of

the time Mexican nationals are trying to evade. Those are the people that border patrol was down here to stop years before Biden, right, and then it was like an open door. So then they started coming over and getting notices to appear for Mexican nationals, which blew my mind. I'm like, wait, people from Sinaloa are getting an NTA, so the door was open for them to come in and seek asylum, but Mexico. Why would they get asylum in Mexico? And so that is interesting, But here's the reality.

They can be turned around pretty quickly because a Mexico and US work together, same sandbox, so they will take them back open arms. And then b these other countries they're not being taken back with open arms, So some people from other countries are being removed to Mexico as well,

and then Mexico is building those deportations. So the Mexican national is different because number one, that's the vast majority of people that are coming across and have in the history of time, and that they they don't get asylum, so they're turned around. That is just the reality. They're the easiest to remove. They don't require attention because you can walk them back across a port of entry bridge. It's been happening for years. It's happened under Biden. He

deported people too, He removes people too. So all of those things happened, it just wasn't on display like it is under the Trump administration.

Speaker 3

Ally, Bradley, I saw NBC News, one of your competitors at News Nation, with video of huge camps on the Mexican side of the border in which literally there's ten to fifteen thousand human beings sleeping on cots, tents, on top of their head waiting to enter the country to get to use the app.

Speaker 4

Of course, the app is now down.

Speaker 3

I can't imagine Trump's gonna let the app be as the vehicle the golden paths to get into the country. And so the reporter from NBC News said, Okay, what's going to happen in a year or two or three, This fifteen thousand waiting to enter the country on the Mexican side could become fifty thousand or seventy five thousand.

Speaker 17

Okay, So are they waiting to enter country or are those the people that were removed and they've now been received by Mexico and they have saft sided facilities where they're processing them back into their country.

Speaker 9

Both.

Speaker 3

In other words, once you've been put back, then you have to go back to Nicarauga, wherever the heck you Venezuela.

Speaker 17

And then there's a concern of is the cartel going to be capitalizing on people returning right? Right, that's the fear, and Victor Avola with a former HSI special agent and says, yes, that's absolutely something that we could be seeing that. We could see people coming back into Mexico and they grab them and go, okay, pay us again or hay, pay us to come back into Mexico. Right, So are we creating a different funding stream for the cartel by sending them back?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 17

We'll see what that all play out. But the individuals that are over there, there's no app anymore. We're not worth seeing. You know a handful of people at the ports, and the reason for that is there's interior ports too. There's ports down here at the port of entry. People can legally walk up and claim asylum. That is where they would be encountered. That is what they're supposed to do. So you still see a handful of people come up

to the ports right now. But full disclosure, you know, we're looking at the chart of the numbers where we're from about you know, fifteen to eighteen hundred on average under Biden when it came to border patrol encounters. But you weren't looking at the sixteen hundred a day that came through the port. That was like, hey, nobody thought of the factcause that's considered a legal entry. And remember when the app started, it started out as what was

the eight hundred and fifty applicants every day? Anyone up to a thousand, anyone to twelve fifty. Then it was fourteen fifty while we slept, and then oh my gosh, sixteen hundred on average every day. So you know, now it's on the day. Within fifteen minutes he shut down that app and I think the next day at the port there was only like forty four encounters versus sixteen hundred, you know, and so that is a really big difference. That is, you know, impactful obviously to the individuals that

were over there waiting. You know, they were some two hundred thousand outstanding appointments that were rendered Nolan void, So you know, That is the reality. It is this unfortunate thing. They were sold a bag of goods, you know. And these these migrants that I walked with in the caravan, they looked at me dead in the face and said, what we're doing is legally illegal. We're not hurting anybody. We're leaving nothing. We're trying for something, worst case scenario,

go back to nothing. That was a mentality. Why not try? And how can you blame them?

Speaker 6

Bill?

Speaker 17

They thought every one of their friends walk in and get medical help, and get financial help, and get a house over roof over their heads, and maybe an opportunity for their kids. Why wouldn't they try? And they did, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of millions over four years. And so that is a reality. Those people were sold the bag of goods. And now we're seeing them remove from this country. You know, they're starting with

the criminals. But you hear Tom Omans say, you heard Carolyn Lovitt say yesterday, everybody that crossed that border illegally is a criminal. They broke the lossing into our nation. And that is a reality. And I tell people, Bill, I say, you know America voted for these removals, for these deportations right now, everyone's cheering on, you know, the criminals being removed, tatted up guys, the trendy Iragua, bad guys,

the murderers, the Isis guys. Get them out. But it's going to come to a time when some families are removed, some grandmas are removed. Put your head in the sand. Turn off the TV. If you don't want to see that, because that reality will come. America did vote for that as well, and that will happen. People there's already they're already taking collaterals right People that are there that aren't

targets are being arrested because they're here illegally. So if you don't want to see reality, turn off the TV because that is going to get hard. We're all humans. I'm a Christian. It's hard to see. So that will happen. Right now, it's it's kind of Gangbusters bad guys. So everyone's tearing it on. But I think that America is going to have a hard time. And I'm being honest.

You know, I don't mince words, and you know I'm honest about what I'm experiencing and seeing down here, and I think it's going to be hard for America to see people remove because I've seen many of them face to face and they are humans. Yeah, human beings that God created that got sold the bag of goods and they bought it. And it's unfortunate that we're going to have to watch all this unfold. In my opinion, it is a tough space. America voted for it. It needs

to happen. But they are human beings, they are lives, and it does suck that they got They got encouraged to.

Speaker 3

Come well, the thirteen billion dollar a year industry, the human trafficking cartels, and aren't going to give up their products and their goods and services for nothing. I watched Tom Homan with Chris Cuomo a couple of nights ago. One point four million aliens live inside the United States that have deportation orders that they've ignored, six hundred and seventy five thousand known criminals inside of America that they

don't want to be apprehended. There's another large group who simply showed up and work in the fields, working the factories, work in the hospitals, that aren't criminals. They don't have deportation orders, but they're here illegally. Which is a crime.

You got to be deported, and so get ready because you say it very well, Ali Bradley, And that is that at some point the mainstream media is going to be all over a grandma put back to Nicaraguas, separated, a mother separated from her two or three kids because she happened to be at a place where there was a druggie around and they asked her for her identification. They determine that she's here illegally in a way, she goes, that's it.

Speaker 1

We got it.

Speaker 17

We have to be honest though about what Tom Horman is saying too, though he's offering these families the chance to leave together. If a mother chooses to separate from her child, it will be her decision, because they're going to give that mother the opportunity to take her kids back with her to Nicaragua, and if she chooses not to, that is her decision to separate from her children. That

is what Tom Horman is putting out there. When I look at the numbers of these final orders of removal bill, because we've got one point four to six million, I'm

looking at the total cases right now. What's interesting is one hundred and fifty six thousand of them are in Miami, and you know that Ron DeSantis has such a great working relationship with Trump, so it'll be interesting to see them really go into Florida because we haven't seen a lot of activity in Florida yet when it comes to these ICE so called rays, their targeted enforcement operations, but they're calling them raids, so we haven't seen that, right.

We haven't seen Miami really upended, which is interesting because the next one down is Los Angeles. Another one we haven't really seen hammered by ICE. New York. That's the third down. We obviously saw DHS Secretary Christinome down there yesterday. I'm you know, rounding up bad guys in her words, so that or dirtbag she called them. So that's where

we're at right now. They've got, you know, a million and a half people that they've got to find and most of them were ordered removement, had senti I meaning they didn't show up to court, right, So they've got a task they got to find them, right and they all have their dockets. You know, one of my guys sends me stuff almost every day of who he's going after, and he's on the Fugitive Operations teams, and I know

who he's going after. He's going after child molesters. He's going after terrorists, he's going after drug dealers, he is blowing after murderers. They are not going after your friends at church. That is not who my fugitive operation sources have ever touched.

Speaker 3

Ali Bradley, you're the best of what you do, a little bit of a law. But as you point out, there's still a wave out there ready to hit the shores. And Ali Bradley of News Nation, you're the best there is that doing this kind of stuff. And once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Ali, you're a great American.

Speaker 17

Thank you, thank you, Thank you, Sir.

Speaker 3

God bless always, God Bless America. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Live with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Ali Bradley, News Nation, go on the mortar, knows what's going on. It's good

to hear from her. It's wonderful. Coming up next, I think is the expert when it comes to fentanel, doctor Robert Marvin, and he's going to tell you and tell the American people exactly what's happening on the southern border, in the northern border, and then just a Mexican problem. It's that it's a Canadian problem and it's American problem, and it's all designed by the communist red Chinese to

turn the minds of American youth the mush. Let's continue with more, Bill Cunningham, the Great Americans, live with you efforts, Billy Cunningham, the Great America.

Speaker 4

Now we have a new sheriff in town. His name is Donald John Trump.

Speaker 3

He's kicking ass like mister ass all over the place, from South America, Central America, all over Asia, and they're concerned. It's amazing to me that the Chinese, either through TikTok or through fentanyl, is trying to poison and kill as many Americans as possible indirectly as they send hot air balloons all over the country and introducing fentanyel into the country the precursors. And now we got someone trying to

stop it. Doctor Robert Marbatt is a renowned expert on homelessness and a senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute's Center on Wealth and Poverty. As a PhD, and political behavior in American political institutions, and it's marked by being He's courage, marked by being bipartisan as much as possible. So, first of all, doctor Robert Marbatt, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. So let's first deal with Fittanel. I don't know any American family that's not concerned with it. I live in

the state of Ohio. There were two or three college co eds who thought they were taking some sort of upper turnout to be Ventanyl. In Cincinnati. There was a noted football player amateur. I've played high school football at Great High School. He's dead three years later. He went to Maryland. The website has do it for Jack dot Com,

which his parents got to be notified. And nothing frightens us more than the idea that the communist red Chinese are killing Americans in large numbers for many, many years and now they're mased. First of all, before we get into my President Trump can do, can you describe to the American people, doctor Robert Marbatt, the scope of the problem that really started seven or eight years ago and metastasized the past four years.

Speaker 11

So think about how bad this is.

Speaker 18

With it, there's one number that I always use that really puts it in perspective. More people have died in the last five years of fentanyl than all Americans have died in the last hundred years of war. So if you go World War two, Afghanistan, Iraq, Global War on Tear, Go War one, Go War two, Vietnam, Korea, Kosovo, a few other smaller un actions, take all the men and women killed in all of those, all seven military you know,

branches of uniform service, plus the intelligence agencies. Fittnel's killed more people in the last five years and all that last hundred years.

Speaker 3

And those being killed overwhelmingly between the age of fifteen and thirty five, and that's the end their prime, so to speak. Why have we permitted this to occur? Will we know where it's coming from?

Speaker 11

And it has.

Speaker 18

It is the number one killer right now of all people eighteen to forty five, full stop. And it surprises people to know it's the fastest growing death cause of children zero to four years old. They're not going out and getting a drug dealer, they're not addicts getting poisoned because fitinel is so powerful, so potent, and everywhere. The reason why fitnel looks so bad is it's the most

powerful synthetic drug ever made in a laboratory. You can barely see it, you can't taste it, and you can't smell it.

Speaker 3

And as far as the amount that could kill someone, if you would take a salt shaker and put a little bit on your table at dark table and look at that white salt against the dark table, how many little granules can kill someone.

Speaker 18

Two grains will kill most people. Three grains of salt will kill everybody. Pure fetanel or one grain of rice will kill fifteen people, not an average.

Speaker 3

One grain of rice would kill fifteen human beings one grain.

Speaker 18

We've never seen anything this to me. If you think about how many people who died fighting Tojo and Hitler over a five year period for United States of America, we're way more that in the last four years of fentanyl alone, just that one war. And so we need to act like our house is on fire. And the last four years the administration was asleep at the wheel or didn't care about it.

Speaker 11

Some have told me they didn't want to.

Speaker 18

Talk about the politics of fentanyl because you can't talk about fentanyl without talking about open borders. Their interconnected is not the only reason. It's not the only cause, but it's a big part of the puzzle.

Speaker 3

Why do the drug dealers, the Mexican drug cartels. Plus in America, you can buy a certain kind of a press for like one hundred dollars on Amazon to press these pills. Where did the chemicals generally come from that kill hundreds of thousands of Americans?

Speaker 4

Is it China or is it Mexico?

Speaker 11

So let's do it quick.

Speaker 18

You know one oh one on food chain, the precursor drugs and now the pre precursor drugs almost all come out of China, and you can get those on the dark web. You can get a lot of it on Amazon. But the critical acting ingredients come out of China. It then goes through the first phase of the fednel crisis went through Mexico with the cartels in Mexico, and what they were doing is backfilling. The Purdue pharma crisis is everybody knows the Purdue Pharma. Everybody got addicted to synthetic opioids,

and they were putting out the message that it wasn't addictive. Well, it turns out not only was that wrong and a lie, it was the most addictive drug we've ever seen on planet Earth. And the cartels were very They are horrible people.

Speaker 11

And they do horrible things, but they're entrepreneurs.

Speaker 18

And they saw all those lawsuits with Perdue Pharma, so you had millions of people with prescriptions, hundreds of thousands of people addicted, so they backfilled that supply. That's why it went so fast. The cartels already had distribution systems in the United States, so they just backfilled it, moved it quickly in conjunction with China, and in the last eight months, the northern border now has become it's possible

that more fentanyls coming across the northern border now. And the northern border is FORUS because of the southwest border. Because so many people have had to deal with the southwest border, it's left our northern flank open now.

Speaker 3

And are the drug dealers so imprecise and how much fentanyl they're putting into a pill or drug so imprecise, That's why the death takes place. Drug dealers don't want to kill the customers. They want to keep the customers alive and going. But we talked about it, no true or false.

Speaker 11

Exactly right, exactly right.

Speaker 18

They don't want to but it's so potent in such small Think about two grains versus three grains and four grains of salt like you're example of pouring it out on a dark table.

Speaker 11

It's hard to figure that out.

Speaker 18

And every grain of salts a little different in size and such, and so it.

Speaker 11

Is so powerful.

Speaker 18

The precision instruments you need to make a lethal dose or a dose that makes you high that doesn't kill you is so hard to do it. In most average street dealers, and certainly the wholesale producers, they don't have the very scientific microscopic weight measurement devices to do it. So they just sort of put it together. And I've had probably a dozen dealers tell me it sort of doesn't matter because they've gone to a Originally fentanyl was a margin drug. They did it on the margin. Now

they do it on the volume. And their view is if more people are dying, that's sort of good for them.

Speaker 11

Because it means more people are taking it.

Speaker 18

And so they're willing to lose some people by death because they get a bigger amount of people or a larger number of people purchasing fentanyl.

Speaker 3

Assuming you survive over peradive days or weeks taking these drugs that could be in pill form or marijuana whatever it is, or cocaine. What kind of high do you get from fentomyl that you don't get from some other drug.

Speaker 18

It is the most powerful high there is of any type of drug ever ever made.

Speaker 19

That.

Speaker 11

We used to think organic.

Speaker 18

Opioids was probably the most powerful drug out there. Finnyl is made in a lap and is one hundred times more powerful than morphine, fifty times more powerful than straight up pairlin. And I'm not saying fifty percent. I'm not saying fifty basis points. I'm saying one hundred times and fifty times. So that's ten thousand percent more powerful than morphine.

Speaker 3

Why does you've written on this? Why does in China have an addiction problem? Like America has an addiction problem? What does in China have have the same problem. That's where most of the precursors come from. They're killing Americans either the minds become mush through TikTok or their bodies die from fentanyl addiction. China wants to destroy this country. Why does in China have an addiction from.

Speaker 18

Well, when we were working on the movie that i'd produced, Fentanyl Death Incorporated I spent three weeks in China and I've spent it since amount of time in Mexico. And what's fascinating is both those countries have almost no fentanyl addiction. They understand how powerful it is. And in China they have the strictest laws and the books anywhere in the world, and they fully implement them. They fully you know, they basically execute high volume dealers and they know it. And

I went spent three weeks doing my film. I went to big city, small city, went to seven and eight of the largest cities in China, went all over and I only saw four people under the influence of anything in my entire time there, and two where alcohol, one was math, and one is sentinel. And you always know sentinel because they're sort of bent over. That paralyzes the

chest cavity. And the way you die, by the way, is because it paralyzes your lung and heart, so your heart stops beeding and your lung stoped breathing.

Speaker 3

That's a problem. So China not caring about little things like do process. If they would catch a fentanyl dealer in Beijing, they march them to a wall and shoot.

Speaker 18

Them, and the whole process may take a day may the whole thing, and they're very serious about how end users and the thing in the beginning, because I struggled a lot with it, was this was intentional or whatever. And in the beginning I am absolutely convinced it was China trying to get hard American currency because they're in a big economic crisis. A lot of people are not aware of it. They're in real trouble and they need hard currency. So in the beginning, I think it was

all about getting hardback green back dollars. But over time they started realizing, you know what, not only are we going to make a lot of money and help our currencies stabilize, we now are destabilizing our number one adversary. And I don't think it was intentional in the beginning, but now it's a secondary benefit that they're like, hey, well we'll just let it keep flowing in there, and it destabilizes the United States.

Speaker 11

It's not just the death toll. It's the finances.

Speaker 18

It's the criminal justice system, is the judicial system. It's the breakdown of families. It's the overflowing hospital rooms, overflowed.

Speaker 11

With police response.

Speaker 18

I've worked in many cities where at least a third of their calls or fit no calls.

Speaker 3

How many firefighters in every major city in which they carry with them the antidotes. But and it's a regular event. I live in Cincinnati. It's a regular event that the same individuals might be hit up three, four to five times a week, and the fire department's right there and they save them and save them and save them, and they're thinking, what are we doing? And this feeds into something that you've written about extensively, the homelessness problem. You're

right about the West coast. Describe the homelessness problem and it's connection.

Speaker 1

To ventanyl well.

Speaker 18

Right now, United States street level homelessness is doubling every four years, and the Abided administration, the numbers were so bad this year. They released it two days after Christmas, one day after Hanuka, and on the Friday before New Year's that's how bad. And by law they have to give an annual report, and the numbers are so bad they buried it. The only thing they could have done more to bury it was released it on Saturday of holiday week and the numbers are so bad. In Sentinel

initially hit the homelessness community really really hard. Now, Fentanyl's sort of across all populations, all sectors, all states. But in the beginning, the real foothole Finnyl started in the homelessness community, and that's why there's a direct tie on this and the other thing you mentioned about the sort of reversal agents or narcan. And there's a myth out there by some on the far left that all you got to do is have Narton and it will say

and it will save you. Think about when you know sadly a person who has a stroke or heart attack. First thing we all always ask if a family member or friend is how long were they without oxygen? How long were with their heartbeat, because that would tell you how much brain damage is you have. And most people on Finnyl, they actually are legally dying, technically clinically dying on the street, and then they get a reversal agent,

so they'll go two or three minutes without oxygen. I've seen people will go four or five minutes without oxygen, get hit with fentanyl.

Speaker 11

And they they're alive.

Speaker 18

But the amount of brain damage, especially the aculative brain damage as you mentioned, many people getting hit.

Speaker 11

Two or three four times in a week.

Speaker 18

It's some point the brain damage kicks in and that's why it's a real myth thinking that will solve it. And here's another weird anecdotal stat And I wish we could get some real good research on it, but sadly, people die too fast. It's so it's almost impossible to figure out. I have never met a person who's been on fentinel over eighteen months.

Speaker 4

Can't do it, ever, can't do it that.

Speaker 18

You can't do it, you die within eighteen months. And if you don't die through the pure overdose, you die through the cumulative brain damage that occurs and other you know, it just wrecks your whole body.

Speaker 3

Tell me what the Trumpster can do? What can Donald Trump do that Biden ignored?

Speaker 18

Well, he did more than and then Biden did in the entire four years. He did more in the four weeks after he was elected, before he took office than Biden did.

Speaker 11

In his entire four years.

Speaker 18

And the most important thing that President Trump has gotten, he's got the tension of China, of Mexico, and in Canada.

Speaker 11

Remember we got to watch our northern flank. He can't go.

Speaker 18

It's southwest borders real bad. But we also got to remember the northern borders become a sieve too. And the Canadian US border is the longest border between any two countries in the world. A lot of people forget about that. And it's not just you know, Blaine to Maine. It's also the Alaskan border on the western frontier of Canada. And we got to realize if we're going to solve this now, we got to go after China. We got to go after Mexican cartels, we got to go after

the Canadian biker gangs. And we also have to recriminalize high end drugs in the United States. We have had many parts of the country legally decriminalized drugs or functionally decriminalized by not prosecuting people.

Speaker 4

Right let them.

Speaker 11

We have to bring this real prosecution back.

Speaker 3

Lastly, doctor Robert Marbatt, what is the name of your documentary? And I'll give the website out again. Tell us the story of a bright young college kid. Do it for Jack dot com. But what is your documentary?

Speaker 18

Bit a little depth incorporated and you can see that now on Salem. Now we're going to be in theaters in March April, and we'll be in general distribution starting in April April May Time Prime.

Speaker 3

You know, doctor Robert Marbat, the warning is out there, and this isn't drugies in some opiing den. These are normal, average Americans who get caught in this world thinking they're taking a diet pill or an upper or down, or they think they're smoking pot that you know is not lace with anything through a drug dealer, could have three or four grains of fentanyl in it, and you're hooked, and you're you will live much longer. But we have to run. Doctor Robert Marbat, You're a great American, and

thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's keep the message going, Doc, Thank you very much.

Speaker 18

Thank you so much, and most importantly, thank you for caring about the fitnel crisis.

Speaker 4

God bless you. Thank you.

Speaker 9

Doctor.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 4

Thanks for listening tonight.

Speaker 3

And the markets are going to go downward tomorrow. I'm looking at the Asian markets and the futures under dal Joanes supposed to be off six hundred to eight hundred points. And I believe in Trump. I believe what he's doing. The President has said there'll be some pain but long term gain, and so I believe in that. We cannot

continue on the course that we're on. I especially want to thank for coming on doctor Robert Marbat and talking about fentanyl and what the Chinese government's doing to us on the southern border, what they're doing to it through TikTok, what they're doing to us through the trade deficit of over a trillion dollars and finally we have a warrior in.

Speaker 4

The White House and not a Putts.

Speaker 3

And I anticipate that there may be some minor difficulties in the beginning. The long term, this will be great for the American people. I'm proud to be an American. Once again, thank you for listening. Let's do it again next Sunday Night, Bill Cunningham, I try to be a great American heard with you every Sunday night, and make God bless the night.

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