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Willie talks the lawyers who represented Joe Mixon, the state of America with Chris Cuomo, current issues surrounding feminism with Julie Gunlock and so much more.

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Billy Cunningham, the Great American Red Spaceball kicks off the night with Toronto in town the Birds. The Milwaukee Brewers lost last night late. I watched the game to the Dodgers one zip. So now the Reds are only two and a half games out of first place, one game out of the wild card. I know, Merlin, Shiverdecker and Scotty Croswell are excited about that. They're here later on as Chris Cuomo to talk about Trump and so much more.

And gentlemen, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And I said to you off the air, Merlin, that possibly this might be the last cases you two guys take. Is it possible if this is your last case representing Joe Mixon, would you feel good about him? Merlin? Yes, Scotty, it's not our last case. You think so you got more? You got more in you, We got more in this. That's a fact,

all right, Merlin. Let's talk about Joe Mixon. I did the flash pole, and we had eight not guilties and the three guilties and one of the guilty was, well, this victim, this woman wouldn't have said what she said and saw what she saw if it didn't happen. In other words, there was a sense that a woman, especially a woman in Cincinnati, wouldn't make stuff up. What evidence did you have, hard evidence that Joe Mixon was not only not guilty, which is different than innocent, but

you believe he was innocent of these charges completely. What evidence was there you're talking about the evidence against him, against Joe Mixon, What evidence was there against him? Essentially, the evidence was solely the allegations of the complaining witness. She made the allegation that he did certain things. The police department spent

hundreds of hours on a misdemeanor. On a misdemeanor, the investigating officer told me that he had never spent so much time investigating a misdemeanor in his thirty years on the police department. Why they were trying to corroborate her statement after all that time and from February second, So when they refiled the charges on April seventh, he acknowledged on the witness stand they found no evidence to coroborate her story. So Scotty crosswell, this was a big story. It was

the headline of ESPN. I don't know if you're a fan of ESPN, but I mentioned this one had occurred. It was a headline of ESPN that Joe Mixon was found not guilty. But then it went over all the history of Joe Mixon and it made a look as f why was he found not guilty? Why did the police department spend hundreds of hours and the system when there was no corroboration for the victims essential testimony about the gun being pointed? Why did this happen? Well, in my opinion, they filed the charges

because of guys like you and everyone else in the press. The date something happens, they stirred up. There's public interest and there's public pressure on the elected officials to bring charges. And essentially they passed the buck the city.

Since a day police department looks at it and they don't want to get the criticism for giving, if you will, a Bengal a break or whatever, and because it is public and because it is high profile, because he is a Bengal, they then pass it on to the prosecutor who looks at it, I'm certain, and decides that they'll pass the buck to the judge.

And so you've heard the phrase that the buck stops here. Well, the buck stops with the judge, and I believe that, I firmly believe that's the only explanation for why they would file a charge that was as challenged as this one. And Maryland, why did you pick a judge, Gwen Bender, who spent about you spent many years in the prosecutor's office back in the nineteen thirties and forties. But why did you decide to try it to Gwen Bender and not take it to a jury? Well, Bill, I think

you understand that. Would you have a case that you're primarily talking about legal issues, you're far better off to have a judge call those balls and strikes than you are the drama or a juror who simply looks at what they may believe as convincing as opposed to what the law is. We thought she was in a lot better position to call balls and strikes in this case on both factual and legal issues than a lot of juries speculated and be convinced by a

drama queen in disregard the law. So we we thought about that and we made that decision, and it was clearly the right decision to make. Do you think the victim in this case lied on the witness stand. Yes, Scotty, Yeah, I'm confident she did. There's no other explanation for for her story. The story itself is so iological, and the and her reaction to things we're so bizarre that it's hard to believe that that that she she actually saw a gun. I mean, and I have no doubt they hit

an argument. They clearly argued with one another, needed one of them disputes that, And my suspicion is that she interjected the weapon just to gin things up a little bit. If this guy's name was Joe, Joe Jones, exactly the same thing happens. Someone cuts somebody off, and sadly, I've cut somebody off unwinningly in traffic, and a little bit of the one finger salute was directing my way. I think it happens to everybody. Either you cut somebody off her and you get cut off, and she's behind them,

she makes the decision to pull up next to him. She's the one that rolls down her window and Joe rolls down has She's the one that drops some nasty invectives towards Joe. Joe responded with some invectives things of that character. If his name was Joe Jones, exactly the same set of facts, and would there have been hundreds of hours spent investiga and secondly, what charges have

been filed if it wasn't Joe Mixon. In my opinion, there would have been no time spent to investigate it and charges would not have been filed. But it goes back to my original statement that the reason is is that if it were simply as you just described, neither you or your friends in the press would have had any interest in it. There would have been no pressure,

and the case would not have gone forward. The realities are when she went to the police station to make the report, she didn't tell the initial officer or any of these things. She just said, I was involved in a road rage incident and someone pointed a gun at me. That officer had a one paragraph written statement that essentially stated that, and he put it on the counter for someone at some point in time to investigate it if they chose

to. So he didn't even take it seriously enough that he, uh, you know, called a squad in to say there's someone out in the streets here brandishing a firearm and threatening to shoot people. And so I think that in of itself tells you what you need to know. So you're saying first story morphed over time. Oh, it became incredibly different as time. As time went on, Merlin, What would have happened if the police and I spoke to certain police officers as I'm sure you have about this, and this

was a high profile case. In fact, Chief of Police the Fiji, who caused the case to be dismissed quickly upon its initial filing, said it was a high profile case and this is going to be treated differently than other cases. What if the police and that car was sitting at pay Course Stadium for a day and a half, maybe longer, if they had gotten a search warrant and gone into that car a pay Course stadium to find that gun and not founded or I founded, if you're claiming it didn't exist, That

would have resolved the case one way or another. Wouldn't have it? Certainly would haven't. We argued that to the judge, that this whole thing could have been resolved if they'd sent somebody down to pay Horse Stadium either that Saturday afternoon or when they came home on Sunday, or going down and talk to him on Monday, Joe would have told him. He wouldn't have denied driving the car. He'd have told him, Yes, some crazy woman pulled up

next to me, was yelling and screaming at me. Is SI told her to push on the light changed and that was it. She's claiming I pointed a gun at her. She's nuts. Is this are either you're aware of civil opportunities this woman has taken or may take to seek money damages? Scotty, you know anything about that? Well, she has sued people in the past, But really, I suppose it's not relevant to this case. I don't believe that after this trial and after what came out in the trial,

she'll have much interest in pursuing a civil action. It was brought up by Rocky Boyman yesterday Maryland Chevdecker that he may not have problems with the Commissioner's office. The Bengals issued a statement quite supportive of Joe Mixon, and I think according to some broadcasters, I know, he is well liked among the Bengal

organization. But nonetheless, you are you concerned about the commission getting involved and this is outside your purview a bit as a criminal defense attorney of imposing a punishment for what occurred. Let me just say this. My belief is if the commissioner does want to take a look at it, and they get a transcript of this trial, it'll be case closed. They'll say, this woman's a whack job. There was no crime here. There was nothing, no

violation of NFL rules of any sort. Let's move on, and Scotty, the issue becomes Joe mix his history, which is like baggage that he carries, which is the incident in Oklahoma, and the incident and Anderson Township in which there was someone in his home who shot a neighbor kid. And so some of the callers said, well, this is consistent with Joe Mixon's previous behavior, Scotty Cross, Well, what do you say about that? Well, what I say is that you asked a question before why we chose not

to try a case to a jury. And the fact that you sit here and run polls and have people voting guilty and utguilty without knowing either the facts of the law. That doesn't matter. Well, that that can be in the very things you said can be problematic, but the realities are whatever occurred in Oklahoma ten years ago. He was an eighteen year old kid in a bar where someone, as I understand it, through a beer in his face and spit on him. And so that was that incident, and he has

no responsibility for what happened at his home that this past year. And that case was thoroughly investigated by the hem Ot Gang Prosecuting Attorney's office. It was investigated properly, I would say, and after a review of it, they made a determination that he had no responsibility for what had occurred. So while people I'm sure will uh you know, blame him or try to transfer guilt to him for what others did, the realities art has been thoroughly investigated and

no charges were filed. And I would say that the people who investigated that case were under the very same pressure of people who investigated the case we're talking about today. And given the public nature of that other incident, Uh, it's not something that anyone is simply going to sweep under the rug, so to speak. They investigated it fully determined he had no no responsibility for what happened. I mean, it's that's that's simple. Along those same lines.

My belief it it has been totally totally unfair The way the media has attempted to portray Joe, so to speak, as a thuck. He is not a thuck. We've spent I don't know how many countless hours with him. He is a fine young man, he's a gentleman. But the press, including some of your life people who follow you, have tried to paint him as a thug throughout this without knowing any of the facts or the law. But I guess that doesn't interfere with you or most of the people in the

media. Bill. I had a call along the way this has been pending for almost eight months saying, well, Joe Mixon is going to testify, because if I was innocent, a team of horses couldn't keep me off the witness stand. And I said, well, the lawyers will make that determination at the moment whether he needs to testify, but probably not because he is testimony. He's available in indirect manners? Is that a direct Why did you decide not to put Joe Mixon on the stand. Let me say this,

first of all, Joe was fully prepared to take the stand. The bottom line is, we made the assessment that the state's case, the city's case, was so flawed, so weak that no rational trier of fact could have found him guilty. So what's the point in putting him on when you got a winner and you might he might say or do something to get him in

the jackpot. Well, I think that's unlikely, but I can guarantee you the media would have been taken clips of him trying to find something that he said, or on the witness stand, take it out of context, and again with their mode, try to make him look out to be an idiot or a thought scotty. Oh why does trouble follow this guy around? I mean guns, and I think legally he possesses a bunch of weapons, and

including some nasty looking ones. He didn't have a small handgun ever, purchased legally and that's not I can't imagine him having a handgun in the car on his way to a football game inside NFL facility. If he had a gun an inside pay Core stadium, he's done. Why does trouble says, you've done this work for forty or fifty years. Why does trouble follow Joe Mixon?

Well, I don't agree that trouble follows him to start with. You know, he looked you're talking about the thing in Oklahoma ten years ago that you know that has been resolved. I mean he made his peace with that, he made his admissions, and has tried since that point in time to be a model citizen. Let me simply say this, in my experience, the Cincinnati Bengals just issued a statement to say that the case was over and

they were glad the case was over. But beyond that, the Bengal organization went out of its way to talk about what a fine young man he was. In my opinion, if they had any inkling that he was other than that, they would not make a public statement like that. In addition to that, Merle and I have had an advantage that most of the none,

none of your callers have had. In our advantages. Not only have we spent a considerable amount of time with him, but we've spent a considerable amount of time with his family, and we've gotten to know them, and I can tell you that they are fine people. They're upstanding people, their supportive

parents, but they are very very nice people. Not only that, but Joe, since he's been in Cincinnati, has met a family, an individual and his wife, a very successful man in this town who has taken upon himself to mentor Joe and to be I guess a family figure, because his family lives in California and you're not here. These people have five children and they have him in their home if he stays there with them on occasion he's

in, he's there with the family, he's there with the children. That family was there to support him throughout this, and I would simply say that, in my opinion, based upon what I understand about that family, there's no way that they would be associated nor would they have their children associate with someone that they thought was less than an upstanding Do you blame the media for some of this? Yeah, there's five nine twelve nineteen, even this sacred

radio station. You blame the media, Well, I mean I blame the media for genning it up and for looking at looking at individual cases which they think, you know, they think it's newsworthy, and perhaps it is, but ginning it up it's no different than what you just referenced a minute ago. When they write an article that says, well, Joe Mixon was acquitted. However, here's what he's charged with, here's all the essentially, here's

what he did. But he managed to get two lawyers who talked his way out of correct is essentially what it's see what they say, and so you know you can't win. You know you can't win in that situation, and and and you can't respond, and you know what is it? They say? You know, you don't want to get in a fight with a guy. But what is it's got a thousand gallons of ink or whatever. I

don't know. So yeah, I think the perception of Joe is promoted by the press because it's a lot more newsworthy to talk about the bad and people than it is. I think their race plays a part of it. He's got corn rows, he's black, he's rich, he's got a jeep with a twirling hub caps on him and doing race. But because allegedly the end word was used allegedly by this woman, well that's right, yeah, towards Joe. Do you think race played a part? I let me ask you

this question. Bill. You tell me you've read her state, which is the whole basis of their case, where she never says she was in fear for bodily huh, for she was personally in fear does the opposite and she says nothing, but I was angry, and I was mad six times. But what does she also say? So this will be you can answer your own I'm not saying any bad words, all right. What she said was quote, I am well aware, not a good thing to say well aware,

but I was just so angry. All I could think to say repeatedly is you're what's wrong with America today? And I just said it a bunch of times. What do you think that statement means when you're hollering, yelling, and screaming at a black man with corn rows in that car, thinking you're what's wrong? It was a racial epithet without using the N word, but allegedly she used it at some other point. So my point is this,

if it wasn't Joe Mixon, none of this would have happened. And lastly, Merlin, I made the comment that if she was convicted, the Bengal season be down the tubes. You told me that the other night all the pressure was on Scott, and I said, you two, I said, I said, I've read a lot of the statements you shared with me on the record stuff that, And I said, man, I can't conceive of a judge convicting her of being in fear of her life when she's saying

she was angry. What person has a gun pointed in their face who says, you pulled it out, you better use it. It's like somebody that's in fear. No, first of all, Joe says, and we dispute that that ever happened, that he ever right, that she ever said that because he didn't have a gun. So you think she made it up that part without question. Let me just say this too, Bill, go ahead.

The police department Sergeant Kellett, the head investigator on the case, when he testified, he testified that he could not even prove that the time those two cars were side by side, that the aliqui she says was exchanged between the two of them, that they were even side by side long enough for her version of the events to even take place. Wasn't it like under ten

seconds? There's something, Yes, you don't have the same. He also testified that they could not prove that she was even in a position to be able to see inside of his car to see what she claimed she saw. There was not only no quaderative evidence zero, it was strictly we've got the same question when when she says no crime was committed. They can't prove it anyway. Are you going to sue the city? I'm not suing anybody. You're gonna sue the city on Joe's behalf. No. But let me just

say this. You asked me a question before about that I think race played a part in it. I don't think, first of all, I don't think race plays a part in it. With the reporting, I think that you know, you would gin it up regardless of race. If it's a Bengal, Well, that's right, So he had nothing to do with it. I don't think race hating to do with the with the police investigation or

the decision to charge the case. But I do think, frankly, that that what you you're the description that you're giving is a description which your people who voted guilty without knowing the evidence. Look what he's done before? Well, well and why was he like? Well, but that you know, and and the race aspect of it too, I mean that's I mean that

that that's the same thing, that's the reality. You know. We asked, we asked Joe what he what his reaction was when she flipped the N word add him, and he said, well, it was discussed but you know it is what it is, all right. We gotta rhyme for gentlemens. I like to do this again, maybe some other future case. So you two are not done, yeah, Scotty, should we be No, had great success? No no not dun Merlin maybe, gentlemen, thank you

very much. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WLW behold the booms like never before. We've got your shot at Farrow Seats for the Western and Southern w ed and fireworks at tim the Many years ago there was a guy named False Hopkins that was perceived to be represented Edith Edith Clump in a murder case. The top

criminal offense attorney. After that Leslie as a Gains gains and Gains attorneys at law, and we were pretty good then after that you had many other lawyers come and go and at the top of the profession right now on criminal cases or people like Merlin Schevedecker and Scotty Croswell and James Bogan and some others at the top when it comes to these kind of cases, there's nothing better than

these two. And I understand what they're saying. I've read the transcripts of her statements and I know what Joe version of the facts are and Mixon. The history continues to follow someone. It's almost like rings on a tree. They continue to follow. And I think in Joe Mixon's case, according to these and I've not met Joe, and I know that Mike Brown, Troy Blackburn, Brown, Katie Elizabeth that they want to help individuals as much as

they can that are in difficulty, especially African Americans. And so Joe Mixon now has motivated the next two years, assuming the Commissioner doesn't get involved, and there's a chance he might. But on and off the air, Merlin Shiverducker said he'd be he would encourage Joe and his agent to take these two guys with him to New York so they can lay it out for the commissioner.

And I would think the way it normally works as the Commissioner will call the Bengals talk to the director of Security here to get a feel for the atmosphere. If Joe Mixon was in fact convicted of a gun offense, he would never play football again because the Commissioner would suspend him pending further action,

pending a hearing. Sentencing would take place in a couple of months after a PDR was put together, he would be sentenced to the Hamlet County Jail because Judge Bender, who's kind of a can be very difficult when it comes to criminal sentencing, would have put him in jail, and then the appeal would begin and sometime the end of next year there'll be a final resolution. And

in those two years Joe Mixon has done so. The thing I find most troubling is that reading the transcripts and watching a good part of the trial and listening to reporting, especially from James Bogan, attorney who does a whole bunch of murder cases, that this case should not have been filed in the first place when you read what she said. The key element have aggravated menacing is that the victim must be in fear of his or her life or serious physical

harm. And without that element, there's no crime. Maybe you could come up with the disorderly conduct or something, but he wasn't charged without it was an egg menacing, which is an m one which you think it was only a mystery manner. Well, six months in the Hamlet County jails. Not to me, that'd be one heck of a punishment plus a one thousand dollars fine, and I would think that Joe Mixon paid the lawyers six figures to represent them. They spend hundreds of hours, and at four or five hundred

dollars an hour. Things they add up quickly, and they had all the expert witnesses, and so they treated this case. These two guys treated this case like their number one case. Each of them have only a few cases, and when they get them, they dive into him. And the good old days, when Les Gaines and I were running around, we would always have fifty to one hundred cases. But in today's world, at the top of the profession, you might have five cases, four cases, and that's

it. So Joe Mixon it cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to defend himself against a spurious charge. Reading the transcript, I don't know why Officer Kelly anyone filed charges almost immediately. And then Fiji, thank god, the Chief of Police ordered dismissal without prejudice, which means you can file it again. And when it was refiled several weeks later, on that record, the decision was not made by Fiji the chief of Police or by FtF

peer of all, it was made by the city prosecutor's office. Let me explain. If it's a felony, it's Hamley County Prosecutor's office, that's Melissa Powers. If it's a misdemeanor, some cities have their own misdemeanor jurisdiction.

Cincinnati, being a home rule city, is one of them, so they have their own set of prosecutors to prosecute misdemeanors committed in the limits of the city of Cincinnati, which is clearly was some adults, and the prosecutor's office should have looked at this, look at the transcripts of what she said, and match up what she said, assuming it's true. So take the evidence

presented in a light most favorable to the victim. And I've not used her name yet, nor will I because it might be covered by Marcy's law. I think Channel five on others pierced that, but that's up to them. I think Karen Johnson did great reporting on this, as did Brian Henry.

But nonetheless, when you line up her statements of fact that changed from January twenty first until April, but take the most favorable things she said and line it up with the elements of aggregated menacing, They don't line up, doesn't make sense. The key element is physical, serious physical harm or death is communicated from the defendant to the victim. That's the egg read of menacing.

I could pot it up and I'm sure that's what it says. So when you read what she says in the favorable light, at no point was she scared, At no point was she frightened. At no point did she think I'm about to be injured. In fact, who in their right mind says to a person holding a gun point it toward their head, go ahead and use it. If you pull it out, go ahead and use it. Who does that? By the way, is that fear or is that stupidity?

That's not fear, that's anger, and that is stupidity for some psychological reason, when a road rage incident takes place, don't fully understand it. The human emotions run high quickly, and it does look as if Joe Mixon cut her off, But that happens in life. Have you been cut off before? And when that happens, you have to do everything in your power to lessen the tensions, de escalate, don't engage. When she was behind, Joe then went off to the right a little bit to get even with

him. I'm told by photographs the defense lawyers have shown me it's nearly impossible to look inside Joe Mixon's car at all because of the windows, and allegedly he pulled down the windows about three or four inches, so she probably couldn't see what was happening below his face anyway. But according to the defense team, to make up a story like this, which people sometimes do, it

does happen. When I open up the lines yesterday and the day before, there was a whole bunch of not guilties from the women, a lot of guilties from the man. Why would she lie about this? I don't know why. I have no idea. It's one thing to make a false statement

to a girlfriend or to your husband or whatever. But when you go to the police department and you make, according to the defense, a false statement, and then you pursue it for months and months and months, having found out it's a so called high profile person, and you continue to do it. That's why I asked the question of these lawyers, is Joe Mixon going to sue her for false arrest and false imprisonment and lying? I would say

no, because he just he wants to carry footballs. He doesn't want to be in mesh the next two to five years and a civil legal systems suing somebody for a false arrest. Right, you don't want to do that. So he was gone with his life. But why would she do it? I have no idea. Channel twelve had a story about this female black tenant who accused the landlord of engaging in racism and hurting the landlord putting him through hell. And it turns out it was all a lie. It was a

hoax. She made it all up. Why do people lie? Why do people make things up? Normally there's a benefit. Normally, when you go down that hallway, you back up at some point and say, I'm not pursuing this damn thing any longer. That's not this woman. Why she lies? I have no idea. According to the defense, I have no idea why. But they firmly believe she did. Let's continue. After one o'clock today will be Chris Cuomo of News Nation. After two o'clock, today's the

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air. It won't be a Chinese spy balloon, but you and I are up in a gondola, way up looking down on Middle America. And in this election, which I guess is officially started in a sense. It used to be they started in September of election year, but now we're start a year and a half early. The average American is suffering greatly, and once resolution of big issues, the average slept out there has incredibly high inflation that

affects as gasoline, utility prices, food, and also interest rates. Trying to borrow money is just very difficult. And he looks at the southern border, he or she looks at the Ukraine. He or she looks into the future with school starting all over the country this week and next week, and the average American is very very unhappy, and they want a debate about the

issues. On one hand, we have an indicted former president out on bond, and on the other hand, we have a current president who can't pronounce maui and finds himself not mentally alert, and he may be a crook taking bags of cash. Those are the two choices. So the average American living in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, Tennessee is going to say, what in the hell, where's the debate about the issues that they care about.

If Trump's the nominee of the Republican Party, which I think is about a ninety five percent certainty, if he's going to be about twenty twenty election and the ninety one counts against him, that might give him five hundred and fifty years in prison, and if bids the nominee, I think about half for more. Democrats don't want to be the leadership for the party. So

can you give us? Can you give that average American hope that the great issues that are that are present in his or her life will actually be debated and come up with a resolution. No, I can't thank you, Chris, have a good day. Thank you paint a damning portrait and it is not grossly inaccurate. But you have to start asking why And I don't believe

in Middle America, average American. I believe in America. And you have all different kinds of thoughts and feelings and socioeconomics and cultural biases, and it was all we We're a melting pot. We always have been, and that's great. We find ourselves in a situation where there is a yawning disconnect between how people live their lives and negotiate the things that matter in their life, school, work, community, all the things that we deal with relationships and

our politics. We don't treat anything in our lives the way we do our politics, zero sum, binary battle to the bottom. And the reason we are where we are where the person who's the presumptive nominee are certainly the favorite. On the Republican side has two and three Americans saying there's no way I'll vote for the guy. Now, how do you get to that point? How do you get to where half of people who say they're Democrats? Okay?

So that means there are people who still want to buy in to this poison political game of two parties that only look at who's worse, never what's better, which is why you won't get the debate on the issues. They'll only discuss immigration in terms of who's worse, the Democrats who have no head

or the Republicans who have no heart. That's all you're gonna get. You're not going to get anything else, And in a divided legislature, you're not gonna be able to pass anything, so all you'll get is the battle to the bottom. But you've got half of the Democrats who don't want the sitting president. You've got two thirds of the American people who don't want either as president. So why are these the choices? The game? The party game?

And if people want it to change, they've got to leave the parties. They've got to insist on open primaries, rank choice voting, and get back to reasonable. Do what you do in the rest of your life. When you have some fool at your house who's just being negative and using bad language and being down on everybody and everything, at some point you look across at him or her and say, listen, if you don't have anything positive to say, if you don't have anything to add, I'm not inviting you

back over to my house. That's what we have to get back to. Chris Cromo. At least on the Republicans SOT I'm a conservative libertarian. I'm not a Republican. I'm a conservative libertarian. At least on the right side of things, there's ten to twelve candidates willing to step up to say I'm going to run, and most them we are going to be thrown to the wayside in the next few months. On the Democratic side you have RFK Junior who needs some help along the way, and you have a woman named Williamson

who's incapable. At least on the Republican side, there are people former governor stepping up, putting themselves out there, which, as you know, is difficult. It's hard, you're embarrassed you've got to eat corn in the Iowa State Fair. You have to wolf down some funnel cake somewhere, and it's hard to run. But on the Democratic side, that party is filled with activists of one type or another that do not want Joe Biden, who's not mentally alert, to be their nominee. But no one is stepping up.

How come on the Republican side you got ten to fifteen vivek Ramaswami is from Cincinnati. I've met him several times. I like that guy. But on the other hand, there's a whole bunch of Asa Hutchinson's types who've had some

success governor of Arkansas. They're gonna say, I'm gonna run. But on the Democratic side, there'll be no debates, and it looks as if they have no one but Joe Biden. Why doesn't a Gavin Newsom or a Whitmer or a Kentucky governor Bashir or somebody step up and say, you know what, I'm filing the paperwork, I'm running for president. This is unacceptable. How come the Republicans are doing it but the Democrats aren't. Tell me the

last time an incumbent president has been primaried and lost. Well, I'm going back to LBJ. But he won in New Hampshire. But I guess he lost. But incomb is your answer, and by the way, he withdrew. Yeah, But the answer is because that's not the way the game works, Bill, and you know this, and it's not a Democrat thing. It would be the same thing if Trump were president. And why because you're not going to beat the party and the party has its guy, and unless

the party wants that guy to go, you can't beat him. So on the Republican side, it's open because they don't have someone. And when Trump was in office, you didn't see ten people lining up to run against them because they would have gotten their butts kick and the party infrastructure would have ensured it. The problem is the game. You can't look at the two parties right now. Look, I could make an argument that what you said about

radical agendas is every bid at play on the right. Remember you had a sitting president who was afraid to kind of vocally go after the Proud Boys and the oath Keepers. Why because they're part of a far right constituency that frankly, the Republican Party needs to stay in the House, which is disgusting and sad. If everybody is sad is the notion that the Democrats have to be

nice to anti fascists who are actually just anarchists, which ceriating case. That's where the party game has taken us to the fringes, to the obscene, to where social media is the mainline narrative. That's where we are the Bill Cunninghams of the world reasoned voices. Though people can agree with what you say, they can disagree. You're not talking out. You're behind without any kind

of context or sense of history or fact. You have your feelings. You are being drowned out by some fool somewhere in America that whose links and everything will look like they could be coming from a legitimate place, but they're just some fringe place that the media loves to magnify. And that's where we are.

It's a battle to the bottom, and it's ugly. And I read recently some of the Federalist papers, which were the arguments put out by Madison and others to be printed in newspapers to encourage the states to pass the Constitution. And if we could take the seven or eight key persons, the brilliance of the Constitution and transport them to twenty twenty three. In this presidential race. What would Madison and Adams and Jefferson, Washington, Rutherford, Franklin,

what would they say about the status of American politics today? Well, first of all, they'd all be canceled, right, because either they play problems, or they punch somebody, or they were messing around. And journalists, instead of doing the rigorous work of getting into ideas and forcing a debate, would cover Peckett Billows because it's easier for us to do. And that's the

truth. Okay, we're covering these attacks on Trump legally warranted or not, the attacks on Biden legally warranted or not, because it's easier than talking about immigration and what needs to happen. That's why. And unless you have kids in cages or dead people at the board, or violence, we don't go near it. Now. What would they say, I'll tell you what they'd say, unanimously, okay. And it's in the Federalist papers. It was

in Washington's farewell addressed stay away from parties. They're not in the Constitution, they're not creatures of law. Nineteen seventy six Supreme Court opinion, solidified this and said they are only creatures of addition, they don't dictate anything, and we've allowed them to co op the system. And every founding father agreed, how do we get out? When I watched the news, which I love doing, you love doing it, it's in my DNA, it's all Trump

all the time. And I don't know. Over the next fifteen months, there'll be more reasons to cover Trump than there was before because there's going to be trials and there's going to be depositions that Jean Carroll lawsuits going to proceed. I guess around on the date of the Iowa CAUCUSUS, I look at

the ninety one counts. This is Republicans who speak with me, and they call Trump is being indicted by the Democrats, namely Joe Biden and Washington, DC, and now also in Atlanta, Fulton County in New York with Braggs and Willis that the Democrats are indicting the guy who they think is going to

win the presidency to get him out and to make more electable. From my perspective, he's more likely to be the Republican nominee now than he was three months ago, and he's more likely not to be able to win the general election in November seventh of next year than he ever has been because the occasional independent voter. I'm broadcasting from Kenwood in Cincinnati, Ohio. Suburbs are all over the place around me, and I can't conceive of those suburbanites actually voting

for Donald Trump unless we're in some sort of a depression. I can't imagine that. I pray to God we're not. And so can you tell the American people that this is not Democrats wanting to win and dieting Donald Trump for political purposes? Yeah? Because I believe that it's an unfair indictment of our

justice system. And the sad thing is that the Republicans used to be the ones who were rigorously supporting the institutions, and the Democrats were messing with the big brother and watch for the man, and you know, the big government coming after everybody. And now it's slipped. And what I don't like about why it's slipped is it's only an article of convenience for Trump. Bill Barr was the best ag ever when he was helping him. Now he comes out

and says the idea that free speech is a defense to these charges. Is absurd, that Trump was unfit, that Trump obviously looks for unlawful ways to get what he wants. Now, Build Bar's a rhino. Now Bill Barr's a bad guy. You see what I'm saying. It's not about the fact, you know, Christopher Ray, everybody loved him when you picked him. Now he's a Democrat plant in an article of the deep state. Please, absurd. But this is what we open ourselves up to when it's a battle

to the bottom, and it's binary. Jets fans think they're going to make it to the super Bowl. Jets fans thought they were going to beat the Patriots and Brady and they were wrong, and it was stupid to believe it. But that's what you do when you're about fealty to a team or a side, and it's killing us, Bill, it's killing us. Well, lastly, I don't know a way out. I wish there was. I

wish we had Ronald Reagan debating Barack Hussain Obama. I wish the two of them could be comef I want to hear Reagan against Obama with ideas, how do we solve one, two, three, four five? The issues won't matter to the Democrat Republican Party, or to the media everywhere I look. The average American who lives in Boone County, for example, once to say what about me, and they're turning off to the media. Is there any way out of a Trump versus Biden situation? And about is there any way

out of that to have real debates? These are separate propositions. Okay, right now we're looking at Trump Biden. Probably I could easily see either of them dropping out. Why Biden health concerns a million different reasons, protecting his son and their real questions there whether it really wants it, I don't know Trump because the more rational Republican gets, the more they have to see.

But this is just too much. And even if he were to be their nominee, even if he were to win, his entire tenure is going to be completely distracted by these illegal proceedings, and you could argue it's irresponsible for him to even continue. However, here's the hope, Bill Cunningham. You and I are having a conversation that people would not expect us to have. They wouldn't expect for me to have the kind of respect and affection that I have for you. Love having you on the show, love being on with

you. Oh but don't you guys believe different things. This is all nonsense. I'll tell you what I believe about Bill Cunningham. He's smart, he cares about his country, and he's been good to me. We have to get back to that. That's the hope. You and I live in the best country in the history of the world, and it is filled with nothing but potential and the best human beings that are able to overcome anything by being together. That's what America's secret sauce has always been. And the majority of

this country is declaring itself as independent. That not a majority of plurality, forty plus percent. It's growing. The parties are going to die, and we're going to get back to picking the best people who don't get to hide from what matters, and you don't get to say I can't talk about her or him they're in my party. But the other side is worse. We're going to get away from it because it's not how we live the rest of

our lives. And things are changing and people want reasonable and rational and they want action on their behalf, not just a blaming contest to the bottom. Yes, let's see what happens. And I don't know if you know about Oliver Anthony's song rich Men North of Richmond, But if you have a chance to listen to that song by Oliver Anthony, former songwriter from Virginia, it's the number one on iTunes, and that describes politically what's happened in Middle America.

Rich Man north of Richmond. Take a look at that, Chris, I gotta tell you, I love the song. I can't find the guy. Well, he doesn't want to give interview. Nope, he doesn't want to give interviews. In fact, I he was offered eight to ten million dollars to do a tour do things. He's a little bit different. He

doesn't want to do it. And I'm thinking, we need him, this guy, we need it, and I've put out words and y'all know you have and uh, at some point I hope he surfaces and actually does interviews and explain because that is the anthem of the forgotten American, right there. That's all. And look, I gotta tell you the anthem. Looking you know, he is being unfairly, in my opinion, depicted as the all Look, here's the white man's ansty no, please, No white man,

brown man, Asian man, women. They're all kinds of people desperate for better and more in this country, and we don't even talk about what matters to them. Inflation is only blame Biden or oh no, Biden fixed it either way. Nobody's talking about the ideas to help with the fact that we're going to be short seven hundred thousand construction workers that we have to pull from Taiwan to build the chips and the chip factory that we just put in America.

Come on, the trades are dying in favor of college costs that are ridunculous. Nobody talks about these things. Why because they don't have to bill Because they don't have to. We have to make them talk about these things in a way where they never mentioned the other side. You tell me how you're going to make it better. I don't want to hear about why it's worse. Chris Cuomo, News Nation. Thank you very much. Let's keep the lines at communication open. Thank you, Chris. I am always a

call away for you. I'm a little shy about having you on the show because I don't like having better looking people on SHO agree with that. Thank you. Very much. Thank you. Chris blushing here all right, let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred w o W. Open up our live stream on the iHeartRadio app and take a look at the screen. You see that little red circle with a microphone on it. That's our

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supporting the another happen I don't know. There's oh there, everything would be there buzzing. But do you know, do you know queis exactly? What's the lady over the Okay, I want you out. I'll be last. Yeah, we're not gonna stop, glad. I don't know, but I'm gonna ask her to. I'm got to serve and and I don't love. Here's this she wanted. That's you come up to meet hello, hello, hello, hello, quiet and I'm just I'm broadcasting guy, not a Sissy

Pass with a woman buzzing. And then some one or the other customers that the lady in a front row where you usually sit. I think those are the seats where Roger Federer made eyes at the first lady and you got mad. I told Roger, gets your eyes off my wife, concentrate on the match, big boy. And the lady sitting right there in a front row and seat one sissy I think one a couple of rows back. The lady behind her goes points to her over. They said, she's the one that's

buzzing. She's buzzing, she's buzzing in and it's and Sissy Pass is a little bit perturbed. Who lost them? And the umpire says, get out there and play big boy. The heck with this buzzing. It's not it's not doing yeah like a bee. I don't know. But if you do that, you're a goofball. Well maybe she's a beekeeper. Maybe she identifies as a bee. That guy, I tell you one thing, you gotta give Sissy pass credit. He's got good hearing. I was told there's some

students at Mason High schools identify as cats and they use kitty litter. What that's all I've been told. I don't know if it's sure or not. But if I identify as the six foot ten inch Chinese female, if you were an animal, what would you I'd be identified as. I'd be a loyal dog. I'd like to be a dog, yeah, not a cat. I don't care much for cats. I think i'd sit around and be like Fritz well hippo because they don't they don't take no golf off, but

nobody. They fight crocodiles and everything else. When you're five thousand pounds or you're the world heavyweight champion, I'd like to be a dog, though I could jump on people's laps and everything, kind of like Joe Biden, who invites little girls to sit on his laps, who can smell their smell their hair? What about that one? Will they? The s Dude Reporter is

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hot food Sunday? Bet? No, because I think Cole Raine's gonna beat LaSalle on North Bend Road. I'll tell you what, I'll make a bet with you. Then, Okay, I'll take LaSalle and I'll take the Park. I'll give you Purcell and I'll give you cole Raine. All right. The coverage that begins tonight, Willie and let's see the discovery of high school football, coverage of service of Cincinnata Children's changing the outcome together, six o'clock

tonight, High school football Tonight show Fox Sports thirteen sixty. That'll lead into the game between Lakota West, Tom Bolton McCall, the Saint X Bomb d spec at six forty five. Is the old and hair guy gonna be there? That I don't know? Also tonight Indie Ben Davis with Mark James will be taking on Mueller. Where do they play? They play in Mount Saint Joe. Purcell now has its own field because of the generosities of Roger Staubach

and Marianne Staubach. Correct, and then the East Central and Lawrenceburg Right, there's night Right, there's the helmet. So East Central. Also tonight preseason game two for our beautiful Bengals. They're in the ATL up against the Falcons. What about Desmond Ritter best rate, He's gonna start tonight, so he wants again hit a couple of times he could. Yeah, we'll do. They've read DJ Reader and those guys. Yeah, they'll they'll build. Bengal's

gonna play any of the players? Uh? Some are Mike Hilton's playing. A couple other guys are Joe Burrow. No, is he gonna sign the deal? I say by next Friday? Please continue Bengals cover his Best Bengals coverage three o'clock with a Ralph's American Grill pre game Sports Talk presented by Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers on ESPN fifteen thirty, the Home of Tony Pike and also Game Action tonight on the home of Kid Chris one oh two point

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Pitch, and the Kelsey Chevrolet Extrinning Show. After the game, I spent some time with Tracy Jones last night listening to him and Marty Yeah talk about how many times the Red Legs have gone to the Left coast, Yeah, for a big ten games series and come back beat and bloodied and bowed. Yep. They got three games against the Birds and then they go out west for ten right, then we're gonna know. And then they come back and play four games in three days against the Cubbies. Well, they're two back

of the Brewers, and the Brewers just got swept by the Dodgers. Now the Brewers are in Texas tonight to face the Rangers, and all they do is hit home runs? Didn't the Reds earlier this year sweep the Rangers? Believe so. And it's the Jay's first visit to Cincinnati since twenty fourteen. They're third in the Al East. It's sixty seven and fifty five, seven and a half down to Baltimore. Of course, they have vlad the Terrible

Junior Vladimir Guerrero Junior, eighteen homers, seventy two RBIs. How about bo Bishett second in the American League with a three twenty one batting average on the way, Blue Jays are pretty good. And here, of course tonight is let's see the Reds players are. Where those Nike City Connect uniforms? Yacht rock review ya post and a postgame concert after the game yacht rock review. That's a band yacht review never heard of. I think they perform on a

boat. And then you got fireworks on Friday after the game Tomorrow night. Oh how about this? Jonathan India is not playing, but they're giving away a bobblehead tomorrow. That's normally happening, by the way, And then Sunday you got the kids a sticker sheet. And then also Sunday at the Big Paul Park. What about Hunter Green. It's Dayton Day, Dayton Day, Jim City on Sunday against the Jays, and that's when Hunter Green returns. You better return. That's amen to that. All I'm telling you is it's

now time. It is time, right now for a Hunter Green to earn that fifty five million dollars and equit the bus. He's been out for more than two months, right, he's twenty three years old, for God's sake. Well, then you get out there and pitch. Well, you also got to give it up to Nicolodolo about him. I think he's gonna be back next week. Got a bad leg. Well, got three against Toronto, win two out of three, right, then go five and five?

Angels d backs Jats Horse by then who knows, well, I mean Angels. That hurricane's gonna hit southern California. What about that deal? I don't know. It's gonna be rain City when the Reds go out there. That Angels are done and the Snakes have not been very good recently, and the Giant answers should not be, but they always are. And then they come back cubs for after an off day they got I think they got a day night doublehead or Friday, the first set September. First first game is won.

Then the Cubbies come to town. Fo I tell you talk about it. I think Seattle comes here, they do. I'm thinking about what Tracy Jones said, the great number twenty nine. How many times have the Reds gone west for like ten games can come back broken? Bloody? How many times it happens all the time? Correct? So this is the ten games will decide now. I don't know about the Hurricanes supposed to be there. Oh, I don't know. Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. That's

one. That's one of the hell continues. Who was that guy? I don't know. I think his last name is Brennan Man. Oh, okay, not sure, So I don't know. I mean it'll be interesting, Willie. But like I said, the Rangers are on their trip now, so you know, we all got to go through it and see what's by the Dodgers. Now to the Ranchers, right, and they're really good, right, and they just got rid of their hammer. Their hammer just won

eight innings and correct loses one to nothing. Corbyn burns last night, Burns, he got burned. But this is it. It's right there right, Adolo, Green, Williamson, Ashcraft and Abbott. Get those five guys bad bad. I mean those five guys aren't twenty five and none of them are twenty five years older. No, I don't think so. I'll tell you what, with the last month of the season, if that group stays the

way it is, they'll win the division. They got a play because they've got that with those five guys pitching, and if the hitting, the hitting stays north, they'll be okay. Well, the hitting has been episodic at best. Gotta get it going, Gotta get it going on a consistent baby, and make it make it to the push to the playoffs. Jeff Brantley has a headache, So I don't know what's to be hungry again. But after two o'clock today we have Julie Gunlock, who's a mother of three boys,

teenage boys, who say that too many women are feminizing. They're boys taking him Go see Barbie? Have you seen Barbie? No? Are you gonna see Barbie? No? For you, Taylor Swift, he didn't answer my question. I'm not gonna go, okay. I was gonna say, if you, if you go, the entire world would collapse was my mail card. I'd be done. Does Penny want to see it? No? Okay, I don't know anybody, but I guess it's the most popular fillion bucks. Too. Many women say, if I don't take my teenage boy

to go see Barbie, hell might look like Ken. Well you're supposed to look like Ken. Correct. I haven't seen it, but is Ken? Where did that come from? Well? Women have to have some reason to urinate people off, and they do it to raise money, and they keep themselves relevant and they're miserable lives correct, And I mean it's like pollution. I'm are you in favor against pollution? Against? I'm against it too.

So the EPA has done a great job with pollution and this mess climate change, and then they ought to resign and say, look, we've served our function right and right now we don't have pollution. Correct, it doesn't exist, So let's go home. We're done. Think they'll do that, Well, no, no, because you're gonna get electric cars, and how we want to get around with no electric stations? On? How about when the hurricane hits in California in Florida and everyone lines up and there's no power grow,

then all the vegetables are wiped out and everything else. You probably probably to buy an Apple acrost you fifteen dollars. Drives me crazy, And for me that's a short trip anymore, that's for sure. I've been down that road many of times. Rich Man, North of Richmond. That's why I want to talk about now. I thought your interview with the dynamic duo of the of Defense went very well, the Magic Man Merlin and Scottie crosswell. And you look look at the facts of that case. It should never have

been filed by the City of since I don't think so. I mean the way it was, it was like stupid. Always say, get me out of the Studge Report. Julie Gunlock's coming up next about how mothers should raise their sons, and what about Megan Rapino and what about uniting women and men's sports under one umbrella, which means the elimination of female sports. Know your role and about your mouth. I got a headache, now let's listen to

that. I gotta cluster Migraine, all right, get me out of the Studge Report, please well, be an honor of a beautiful day here at the Tri State Go Reds, Go Bengals. This is it. This is the red season, and your high school football team. May they win their opener tonight. Don't forget I got their park, you got Purcell, I got LaSalle, you got Coleraine. Home on the Cardinals Hot fudge Sunday. Each we leave you with the immortal words of the stud Report. All this

should be with you, Bill, see you later. That's Mike Dwine giving me an old brush off. Right. There are you two back on the track. We're back together as one. Although I'm owed certain item from fran the first Lady of Ohio, and she's not delivered yet at Cherry Paw. I think they had to come down here and deliver it to us. We're hungry. Well again, I keep mentioning to him, but nothing that cherry pie never hits the road. A lot of talk. I want to I

want to see some walking, not talking. Let's continue four. Well, the Governor just sent me a message. Oh there we go. That's quick. All I'm gonna say him, I'll say yes. That's all I'm going to say is yes, there you go. See. Thank you, Governor, thank you, thank you for listening too. And friends says, why you're making a bet that I have to pay off. That's a good point. Oh, have the governor make the pie? Well he does. I don't want I want Franz pie. Okay, I want frands Cherry. She

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Julie, let's get started. Where I sent you an interview which is representative of current feminine feminism and progressivism. And the headline is feminist fear and loathing of their own sons. And there is this is off the Huffington Post, and I monitor these websites so you don't have to. And this feminist said quote, I took my fifteen year old son to see Barbie because I'm afraid you could become Ken. And I read this column. I thought this can't

be true. But then I searched around other issues around feminism liberalism, and the answer is yes. The author who's our fifty one year old mother of

a fifteen year old son. It's full of virtual virtue signaling about her compassionate activism, trump hating moral superiority, etc. And so there's a movement, especially among feminist women, unlike yourself, to have a son that you're going to fear he's going to become Ken in the Barbie movie or fear he may have a patriarchal attitude toward women, and fear he won't be a quote male

feminist. You have male sons, and you identify currently as a mother and a woman, and hopefully you will not identify as anything other than that. So when you read this kind of stuff, what comes to your mind? What comes to my mind is fear for this woman's son. And how disgusting it is that there are women out there, There are mothers out there that exist out there that think this way about their own children. And frankly, I view this as a part as they form of psychological and emotional abuse.

This woman should not be a mother. And you know, you talk about, you know, how is this just a one off? You know, but you are absolutely right though you did the research, and you know this is common. This is a common belief among feminists, and actually, you know, we say among seminists. It has become mainstream. We talk about and the mainstream media and talk show hosts like those Hideous Women on the View and other outlets talk about this concept of toxic masculinity. And you know what

they're talking about, Philly, is normal male behaviors. Men who are not you know men who are who are behaving like men do not overly emotional, not overly sort of sharing, right, but have a sense of wanting to protect other people, wanting to stick up for other people, wanting to rush in and save the day. These are very normal things. And when we're talking about younger kids, little boys tend to wiggle more, they need to

move around more when they're on the playground. Everything's a sword, right, and everything's a weapon, and you're always in battle and you want to save the jail. These are, yes, these are very very normal behaviors among boys. And now the American psychological associations in these children psychological associations are calling these things toxic and a problem. It is vicious to do this to young boys. And you know what we have. Let's look at the outcomes for

boys in this country. More boys are going to jails than girls, more boys are becoming drug addicts than girls. Fewer boys are graduating from high school. Well, fewer boys are going to college, Fewer boys are taking executive positions in business. But you know what the narrative out there in the media is is that you know, women are still downtrodden, that they are still victims of the patriarchy. You have all these stem programs and science programs that

leave boys out. No, no, no, they're only for girls. So, as the mother of three children at three boys rather, I worry about this, and that feminist who wrote that article has no business being a mother, and someone should swoop it. So well, they're in trouble because boys and girls were equal, but we're different in each gender. There's some boys who act like most girls, and there's some girls that act like most boys. But the great bulk of boys want to fight, they want to

argue, they want to be aggressive. I want to protect my wife. I want to protect my family. I get to get my hut. I gotta get my hut protected. I have doors, and I have windows, and I have locks, and I have ring and I have weapons, and I want to protect my family. And are some women like that? But most women are like some men, and most men are like some women.

Sometimes they reverse themselves. But when we tell a boy something is wrong with you, that your penis is a weapon, that you live in a white patriarchal society, that somehow you are wrong, and because a woman has different genitalia, they're right. You're wrong, know your role and shut your mouth.

Play this out over the next twenty years, because when you think about colleges and universities especially, I can't imagine that Julie Gunlock can go to Virginia Tech or can go to a University of Maryland and speak from a conservative viewpoint about husbands and sons and marriage and raising kids properly, and faith and religion. You can't do that. In fact, you'll be booting. You can't And explain why you can't do that to today's eighteen, nineteen twenty year old

girl woman. Well, well, first of all, and I do want to address up, but I want to back up for one second and bring up the case of Daniel Penny, who is a twenty four year old former marine who got on a New York subway with an insane, drugged up criminal named Jordan Neely. He restrained that Jordan Neely, who was threatening passengers and claiming he was going to kill them, and he restrained him. Jordan Neely

died, subsequently died. And what did the New York prosecutor doing. They're prosecuting Daniel Penny, who came to the rescue of all of those subway passengers and who actually said we were in fear for our life. This guy was gonna kill us. So you have got not only a culture of anti male that pushes an anti male narrative, you have prosecutors in this country that are prosecuting men for doing what is normal. As you mentioned, I want to

protect my wife, right. Men often want to protect those they love, and women should be grateful for this. But now I will tell you there is one thing where women are definitely becoming the victims of the patriarchy, and that is in the transgender movements. Men are increasingly coming into our spaces, locker rooms, bathrooms. They're competing with us in sports. He's absolutely absurd.

In weightlifting, a male walked on stage. He beat every female weightlifter because he is a biological meal that transitioned after he'd gone fully through pure He's like a forty four year old man. He just trotted up there and break every female's record, and everybody is well, everybody in the mainstream media is applauding him. Starts clear living in a in a clown world at this point.

But as far as me going to a college campus, you know, you look at and talking about these issues and applauding men for having these very natural instincts to protect people, to fight, to stick up for what they believe. Oh gosh, that's that's not allowed. It's it's far preferred that you sound like that lunatic feminist who says she's afraid of her own son and is taking him to the Barbie movie to sort of teach him. I don't

know feminism. That is a far at least at the university level. That's a far pervert, uh for for narrative, and we wonder why men are struggling to film in this culture, Why men are downtrodden, Why men are down? Why? Why? Why men have I have fewer opportunities out there. This is the real result of that kind of narrative. You are hurting men with this message, and again you are now prosecuting men who do what here TWOFO was normal, normal male behavior. Imagine an eighteen nineteen twenty year

old college co edit Penn State or University of Cincinnati. Oh, I've state to UCLA that announces to her sorority sisters. You know, I'm looking for a guy. I want to get married, I want to have children, I want to be a homemaker. Now that was the normal approach thirty forty years ago. But now how would that co ed be treated? You know, it's really sad because we do live in an age where women have more and more choices than ever before. I feel very blessed because I work,

but I also I work at a virtual in a virtual office. I've been home with my children since the day they were born, and I chose that, and I didn't work as much when they were younger, and as they've gotten older, I've been ramping up my work. Although Billy, I have to say, you know, I've got six I've got you know, teenagers now, and boy, I think they need me. They need me more. They certainly need me to fill the fridge and clean the house a little

bit more. But but I will, you know, I will sell you. I've had those choices, and we live in wonderful times. But the grievance culture that feminists promote is that women don't have choices, that women are forced to do certain things, that women are forced to to make, choices that they won't don't want to make. And that's really sad because women have come such a long way in this country. They're really are not ruled by

some sort of sort of make believe patriarchy anymore. In fact, I think women do have in some cases more power than men in terms of choices that they want to make for their lives. And we can't celebrate that. You're not allowed to celebrate that because the grievance culture is very lucrative, and feminist organizations make a lot of money, just the same as climate ties, the

same as everything, the same with BLM. Right, as long as you you know, you can't say, oh, you know, the relations to leave backs and wife in this country or people, you can't ever say, oh, look things have gone well, because like, how will Kendy ever make money? He won't, He won't sell any books. If you know you've got you've got to keep pushing the grievances in order to make money. And so we see this not just in feminism, we see it in race

relations. We see an inclinement change in almost every societal problem in this country. You've got organizations and individuals that make so much money also continuing to tell the American public that America is terrible, that people are terrible, that people are stupid, that people are awful, people are racist, or sexists, you name it. So it's always money, and a lot of this comes back down to money. It's money because you have to keep your constituency fired

up and angry about something. You can't say in the environmental movement that you know, there was a hurricane that struck California and Arizona about eighty five years ago. You can't say the hottest temperatures we've ever had was in the nineteen thirties during the dust Bowl. You have to get people fired up and angry at each other, and if you don't do that, then something is wrong.

And all of us are against pollution. I'm against pollution. We live in the cleanest American environment we've had for the past one hundred years, and every year we have fewer zero two emissions in the year before, only industrialized country doing that. I'm not in favor of pollution. Nobody is, and we largely solved that problem. The EPA cannot say, you know, we need to go out of business because the essential function we had was a clean

up. We can't. In fact, we have done large The more success we have, we have to get more money, hire more people, and find more reasons to exist. That's the environmental movement. Yes, and also look at these state agencies and federal agencies. Look at the wildfires in California, look at what happened in now we look at the wildfires in Canada.

Most of that was caused by that land management. Because the state agencies are run by lunatic environmentalists who say, you know, we shouldn't in any way cut back brush. Everything should be natural, and then these things become tinder boxes. And then when there is a wildfire, then they say it's kind of change. So see, they they they create the very it's very very it's very much a Democrat thing. Right. They create a problem and then they say we need more money to solve it. I mean, let's look

at what happened to the schools and COVID. Right, they close the schools. Now we have all these suffering kids, and now Randy Einarten's out there saying, well, I need more money to solve it. And it's such a classic Democrat thing where they create a problem, they spoke the problem with this grievance narrative, and then they say I need the taxpayers to bail me out of this problem. Classic democract i had a debate with an educator about

a week ago at a soccer game. Need more money for education. The more money spent, the worst results we obtain. And when you're a third grader and can't read, the key to unlock every aspect of education is destroy And if you're nine ten years old and you're broken because of the family life you did not have in the society in which you live, in the culture the cues that are important and that is not it is very, very difficult if you're broken by the time you're eight, nine, ten years old,

to put everything back together again. It does happen. It does happen. But if you cannot read, if you don't thirst for education, if you look at the worst debaucherous, drug infused behavior in urban areas, if you look at dysfunctional schools, you have no functional role models and no fathers in your life. If you're a male, the odds of you putting everything together

when you're twenty years old is almost non existent. And then when that doesn't occur, because the problems are caused by liberal democratic policies that rewards failure and punishes success, you've got to look back and say, we need more money. In Cincinnati where I live, it's twenty five thousand dollars per kid per year. You live in the Washington, DC area, and that's like thirty five thousand dollars per year per student. And most of them cannot read.

And if you can't read, you can't function. You're absolutely right. And on top of it, we are deploying, you know, critical race theory CRT into these schools, telling young black men that you know, in the in the in the words of the idiot person on the view, and her name is Faithy right now, Ny has thank you, Sonny Haughsen, telling you know, someone like Tim Scott that if you if you make it in this country as a black man, you're the exception. What an absolutely evil

thing to say to a young black man, Absolutely evil. So you're absolutely right. We have got these schools that are not teaching kids, that are pushing them through a system. They cannot read, they cannot do simple maths. And then on top of it, we tell them that they have no hope in this country, a country that has yes, yes we still have challenges, but we have hope. But we have and we and we work to better ourselves every single day. So it truly is ball, but again

classic Democrats, classic liberal behavior. I would encourage the American people IWF dot org, Independent Women's Form dot org. Julie Gunlock, great stuff. There dozens of authors in every aspect of American life. Once again, Julie Gunlock, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Julie, always love it. Thank you, God bless you. All right, let's continue with more. Bring about what you seek to avoid, declare a

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sixty. That'll lead into the battle of Coda West v. Saint X at six forty five. Who do you like there? I get you know who? That's gonna be a that you talk about a class of the Titans at the beginning of the season. That's one of them. How about the old man with red hair? What about him? I don't know where is he? Don't know? Oh, he's probably out of the game already. Bike

parking cars getting deer Park will take on Purcell Marrian tonight. Stop right there, Roger Staubach correct, You and him will be together, correct representing deer Park Yes v. Purcell Marian. Yes, brand new field that Purcell faithful put together under the leadership for Roger the Dodger, millions and millions of dollars. They have their own football field, which, by the way, Muller High school is not half, but deer Park does. So they wanted an

opponent, a worthy opponent, to show up. Yeah and maybe beat Percell. Marian hack Berry assassins tonight and I will be there to watch it. Indie Ben Davis takes on Moeller at Mount Saint Joe And in fact, I spoke to the deer Park football team, Oh boy, on Tuesday. What's your record when you speak to the team? Next item you have there Cole raid and LaSalle on North Bend Road, Beechwood and mcnick the home of Mark

sheer and and East Central and Lawrenceburg Trojan Tigers. I'll tell you what I'll take East Central and I'll give you Lawrenceburg the home of the speedway that just lost its operator. What does that mean? Segment? You want to go into the business of racing? Please continue? Bengals up to a preseason game two tonight. Bengals up against the Falcons and the atl Joe Burrow not on the trip? What Joe Burrow did not make the trip? What about Joe

the Great number twenty eight? Joe Mixon don't know? Is he related to Richard Nixon? Doubt it? Go ahead? Best Bengals coverage coming up at three with the Ralph's American Grill. Pregame Sports Talk presented by Your Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Toyota Dealers on ESPN fifteen thirty. Coverage also tonight at a game kickoff seven thirty on one oh two seven, the Home of the Hits b Why

didn't Mixon and or Burrow go? What is the reason? I guess Burrow's getting more treatment on his leg and mix and missed the plane because of yesterday's nine and a half day mister meter trial. On the way, I got a text here from Bobby Cass Trucy. He's taking Deer Park the beat percell MLS Soccer. Remember then Willie the orangein blew at FC Cincinnati hadn't played in a few weeks. They're back in action Sunday night. Hell is real FCC

at the Columbus Crew. Why haven't they played for seven o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty because they lost in that They lost in the League's Cup and they didn't have anything. They didn't have any other games. It's like mid season right now't it? Oh? Yeah, pretty much? What about Rogers Staubach, He's the best heisman? Yes, whose Super Bowl rings. Yes, the Hail Mary pass. Yes, played for Purcell. I think Bill Strapman tells me he graduated in nineteen sixty. I think about that. I was two

sixty. The Baltimore Ravens have reached a deal with former number one overall pick to jan Javian count Cloudy with providing a much needed experienced depth and outside linebacker. With Clowney, he played, He visited the Jaguars Sunday, So he's now a Baltimore Raven. That's not good, and we'll see him. The Bengals will see him in game number two of the season. You know,

I fear Baltimore more than Cleveland, would you agree, ye? Or Pittsburgh because I fear the Raven a very healthy Lamar Jackson from Louisville and the Javian Clowney now and then they got a few. But Marlon Humphrey is out for a definite period after a foot injury and he's had surgery, so he's not going to be playing here. So hopefully Jamar Chasing the rest of the wide receiver group can go crazy when young Joe Burrow starts throwing passes. Oh did

I say that? Well? I worry about Joe Burrow being able to play September the eleventh in Cleveland. Am I wrong about this because we'll see or about what three weeks away? Correct? And I don't see I see him walking, I see him talking. I see him crawling on his belly like a reptile. But I don't see a lot of passes, a lot of movement. He needs movement and passing. I think he has the playbook down, Pat. I think he'll be okay. Well, I don't want to

you know, it's it's not good. But got a hurricane about to strike downtown Los Angeles on sat on Monday Tuesday. What does that do for the Angels and their red legs banana although he don't have the banana phone anymore. No, And those are late night games too, so I don't know. Last time a hurricane hit Los Angeles was like eighty years ago. I thought that was in a movie. What I saw the movie with the rock San Andreas. It wasn't good. Let's see all back to baseball, Willie.

Those Reds and Jays tonight five forty there were in the Nike City Connect Uniforms Yacht Rock Review postgame concert tonight what's that yacht rock review? What's that? And it's a band yack chalk rock yacht like a yacht, you know, like you got to down there at you know, Willie one down there along the river. It's like Kansas the Jayhawks, Yah Chalk Jayhawk right, yacht

rock review. They're a band. Yeah, I think you're out of touch segment and then fireworks Friday, Tonight, Tomorrow night is the Jonathan and the Bobblehead giveaway. Sunday is Dayton day the home of the Gems. They're honoring the city of Dayton. Also Denny from Dayton. May be they're correct, and the Chipster may be there maybe, so I don't know. Mike hart Suck Channel seven, he might be there, might be there. So I used to do commentaries and Laurie Webster and Dayton you might here you go Home

of the Dragons. I didn't go very far. But that's good, all right? Is at it? In sports? Yes, sir, I have available to me. We ought to play the song when we can't play at the rich Men North of Richmond and Angry Anthem of the Forgotten. In twenty twenty twenty four elections, him Hell or high Water which, by the way, the greatest movie of all time was My Cousin Vinnie. But the second greatest movie of all time is Hell or High Water. Fabulous movie. And

you think My Cousin Vinny is the best movie ever made? How about this? I have some rules here. You're not on t TCM. Yeah, skinny dipping. I have the ten best dummy EBN. The EBN Morning Crew got caught doingette. I like to watch one of those members. That's a different issue, hid Chris. The best skinny dip locations in Ohio. Number one they ought to know these by heart. Number one is Kelly's Island. Number four I don't know. No. Number four is Deer Creek State Park.

Huh. Number six is Stone Lick State Park. What the but here are three or four? Wait a minute, we go ahead on skinny dipping. Be respectful and have discretion. Try not to traumatize small children. Number two. Don't forget bug spray. Number three, that's for sure, or tanning lotion. Don't skinny dip drunk ball's ricocheting off each other. Four beware of leeches. Oh. Five ouch, make sure your friends are comfortable with your nudity. Six I wouldn't be keep you keep your eyes on people's faces.

Do not look south. Yeah, but you got those California chip mirrored glasses you wear when you go to the beach. I hear no photos, yeah right, no reason to show shortcoming. Well lastly or something else. It's not a big deal. Get over yourself and I have fun. Remember, not even swimsuit models look that good naked. Well, remember we went to the one down there at what is that the East Miami River Road that we did the show down there one day, right, well, and then

after a while forced to do Yeah. You you forced me to go with you, and after a while we felt kind of weird not being naked. Well. Number ten is Grand Lake Saint Mary's skinny Dipping. Yeah, but there are some tips and rules right here are the rules. Now, who gave you that? Why is chip Heart chip Heart's name on her? He gave this to me? Jeez? All right, segment the rules the skinny dip. Maybe that's where Rocky is this afternoon. Be respectful and have discretion,

and don't look south. Don't forget the bug spray. Be aware of leeches. Oh ouch, keep your take your eyes parallel out of the ground. Don't look south Bingo all right segment, Get me out of the students report, we have coming up a great American veteran and talk about an event. You can think about it, but don't do it. And Dale Donovan wants to make a hot fun Sunday bet, but I get tires if I if Cole Rain wins over LaSalle, He's got Purcell Mary and I have the

park. Yeah, plus Frank's eyebel. A C. R. Gunney Pool says special on skinny dipping pools. The man's a business leader. He wants and take advantage. Why someone getting naked? Alright, get me out of the students reporting One of these at the station will be an honor of the Reds Bengals High School Football Western Southern Tennis, presented by John Barrett, Roger Staubar and Roger Stallback. We leave you with the immortal words of the stud

report. Cincinnata is a place to come. Amen. Amen segment, thank you if you want a skinny dip, I'm taking deer Park the beat. Even if Roger Staubach was still the quarterback of Percell in his prime, deer Park should win. Led by Megatron, the head coach let's continue. Yeah, Bill Cunningham seven hundred w LW. Get ready to win your way to our green line between democracy and anarchy. I love especially what the Rangers have done, and Dwayne Robinson has as a veteran, he's what he's supporting.

The Army Rangers one hundred and fifty first Battalion from the Great State of Indiana. They have an event going on in and around Connorsville in the end of the home of Sean Compton and Dwayne Robinson. First of all, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. It's happening this Saturday starting about two PM. Tell the American people what is the event and where will it be they it's a great honor to get this word out to all veterans. Thank The event's going

to be around two o'clock this Saturday, the nineteenth of August. We've opened it. We're going to celebrate the Indiana Rangers, d Company Harms fifty first Rangers. They, as it turned up, are the most decorated unit in Vietnam. The years they were there was sixty eight sixty nine. This year, we want to bring all veterans in to help us celebrate all veterans will be honored this time. It's an opportunity for the veterans past and present to

get together enjoy each other's camaraderie. And I've always said it takes two things to make a successful concert. You have to have the artists and you have to have the audience. In the military, we say it takes two things. It takes the patriotic military guy, the individual that goes out does the service. It also patriots at home to support the military. Those two things, two ingredients is what makes a wonderful, strong US military. And we

want to celebrate everything they have done. This coming Saturday afternoon. We do have some entertainment. We have let's see, we call them the American bomb shells. That's what they call themselves. I call it to a Bob Hope show. These yeah, be quite interesting those who can remember the Bob Hope type shows. These lay the addressed in the early military long dresses. They'll

be performing. They'll be doing, of course, all patriotic songs, okay, are from throughouting Services of America. But we are honored to have them at our place this Saturday evening around six six s thirty in the evening. That'll be now Duyne Robinson. Where in and around Connorsville, Indiana, this Saturday, beginning about two pm until whenever at night? Where is the event taking place to honor and you. You're inviting everyone to come within the sound

of my voice, which is most of the American people. Where is the event this Saturday? This event will be at Robinson's Whitewater River Campground. The address sixteen eighteen State Road one two one. That's in Tarnersville, Indianna. Our website I can direct people toward. Is there a contact point? Yes, they can call seven six five seven six five two six five two six five four two five one. They can also go to the Facebook page Robinson's

Whitewater River Campground. They get a lot of infortens in there. What's going on? And once again this coming Saturday. The phone number is seven six five two six five four two five one or the Facebook and what's the Facebook locator. It'll be Robinson's Whitewater River camp Ground. That's it. Starting at ten. By the way, the weather is going to be great. The weather it's been a little iffy the last air two but the wather's going to

be great. Well, Dwayne Robinson, we gotta go. I want to get the word out the Indiana Army one hundred and fifty first going to be honor in fact, all veterans and Dwayne Robinson of indian I wish you nothing but the best and give my best all the great Americans living in the Hoosier State. Thank you, Dwayne. Ben We'll appreciate everything you do in supporting it. God, Let's have a great God bless you. Thank you very much. All right, let's continue with more News is next once again Facebook

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