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Willie talks the Israel-Palestine conflict with General Richard Newton and Dinesh D'Souza, local politics with Chris Smitherman and more on 700 WLW.

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Now taking control because of the atrocities committed by the terrorists, the barbarians of Amas. And there's a course indications Hesbla in the north and Levin and may get involved the Golden Heights or I spent some time in May three. We spent an entire afternoon in the Golden Heights looking down on Israel and what that

would mean from Syria that was used as a launching pad. There's rumblings, of course, protest all over the Muslim slash Arab world, always in favor of Amas or Hesbela or al Qaeda or ISIS, and so the military situation is quite fluid. Joining you and I now is Lieutenant General Richard Newton, who spent almost forty years, in fact forty five years or so, recently retired. He's flown everything from a B fifty two to a BEAT two stealth

bomber with some three thousand flight hours. He's the National Security Advisor to News Nation with my good friend Sean Compton and Moore. Lieutenant General and Newton, welcome, I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show. And there are so many Americans that have a tacit understanding of what's happening in the

Middle East. The three or four wars that have been conducted in the past, Israel had to be on guard constantly for the attacks from north, west, south and east, and right now there is some looking back in time as to what could have happened, what should have happened. And I watched this morning on one of the talk shows a retired IDF general talk about how

they thought they were prepared and they were not. And so because of your experiences, can you talk about before we go forward, how was it possible for Hamas to get thousands and thousands of barbarians and fighters to behead babies, to kill men, women and children because they were caught with their pants down completely as a military planner, how could that happen? Well, Bill, it could be with you. It's rather extraordinary that, as you said your

cont that had occurred in the first place. It's a failure of intelligence, it's a failure of some monicum of military readiness with regard to the threat of Hamat down in Gaza. They've been there in power, they've controlled Gaza Strip since two thousand and seven. But that will be a focus later on after the conflict, right now Israel got quite a fight on at the Insta's or Prime Minister yet Yahoo and so, but there will be some significant lessons learned

on that. And I may add it's there's likely a failure of US intelligence because we're in close cooperation with our dear friends and allies in the midies to our dearest friend Frankly in Israel. But that we can put on the shelf to talk about. But nonetheless, facing Israel right now is a daunting challenge. After six days of the Israeli Air Force punneling Hamas targets in Gaza,

the army has. Now the Israeli Army is controlling the border of Gods and Israel Toys with thousands and thousands of infantry, tanks, light and heavy artillery. I think you're going to see in the next twenty four to ninety six hours counter attack into Gosen. And at this point, beginning in nineteen forty eight through nineteen seventy three, the Jews had to be greatly concerned about Basher el Assad in Iraq, I'm sorry, in Syria. They had to be

concerned about a functioning Jordan before peace broke out. There. Is it true that unlike the other wars in which the air of Muslim nations wanted to obliterate Israel in a sense, is that we know the outcome of this war. We don't know how long it's going to take. But in forty eight and fifty six and sixty eight and seventy three, the survivability of Israel was at stake because they were attacked by five or seven different countries simultaneously and beat them

all. And now they're dealing with terrorists. Tanks don't do well the urban settings. Is this in a sense militarily a bit easier than it was in previous wars or more difficult? I think it's more difficult. And as you mentioned, uh, Israel has always been under threat of attack. I've been to Israel, I've got your friends there and so forth, and so it's always in a in a operational ready state of of trying to defend itself and

from from different accesses of attack. What they're facing now in God and with the with the you know, absolute care attack of Hamas on last Saturday is a Again. This the new normal right now, for instance, is killing civilians. That's the new normal that out of the isis playbooks now with the Hamas playbook, and what that means is they're not just uh, you know, casualties as a result of uh, you know, urban warfare. They

are directly targeting civilians on the battle. That's point one point two. Uh. They are formidable military, that being Hamas. You know when they did the attack last parody was from air, from land, and from sea, and it was a total surprise. They've been planning this thing for months and

not a year or two. That's that's the second point. The third point, however, is you're right, this urban fight now that we're going to see developed before our very eyes here and in the coming hours and days, will be a very difficult fight because of the urban nature and urban warfare that will ensue in god the Godza is about the size bill of Omaha, Nebraska,

with two million civilians or so. There. The other complicated aspect of this is that as they now using their air force but now going to embark on a ground campaign, they will create avenues of approach much like a It'll be bludgeon but it will also be surgical because they've got to find those specific target centers whereby concentration of Hamas command and control and leadership, as well as

their supply of magazines and warfare. But the other very complicated, difficult part of this is one hundred hostages or so that in my sources tell me here in about eight or ten different locations. They're likely underground right now in a concentration of tunnels, which makes a very difficult part of the Israeli campaign to kill Hamas and then to take back Gaza, if you will, but also

to find and secure those civilians. Last point on the civilian in those hostages is will likely be used as human shields for those high value targets that are mouth holds. So dearly knowing that the onslaught of the Israeli ground forces are ensuing very complicated situation. You need effective tactical intelligence, you need precision fires, you need to be operate twenty four to seven, both in all kinds

of weather conditions as well as at night. And then this will not necessarily just be a couple of days, Bill, I think we're going to see weeks leading into this ground campaign that's going to be coming out. General Richard Newton on the north side are well armed Hesbala militias that control Lebanon. There's

no functioning government in Lebanon. There's no functioning government in Syria. The Golden Heights, which was part of Syria, now it's part of a no man's land, it's part of Israel. How much of a concern is it militarily when you have a two front war and possibly a three front war if Iran says, okay, we have so many difficulties at home. Our people are extremely displeased with government. There's a drought condition in Iran that's been going on

for seven or eight years, which is killing crops. That they have a situation where there's an uprising in Iran, and the best way to forestall that is to have an external threat to unite the Iranians. And the last few days today there's a great protest happening in Tehran, sponsored a course by the Mulahs and by Komane. But nonetheless, the Iranian people want the blood of the Jews as much as the Syrians, as much as Jordan, and Theese,

as much as the Egyptians. Okay, can you see militarily a scenario where Israel will be fighting in Gaza, will be fighting HESBLA three hundred and fifty thousand reserves have been called up by the IDF to forestall the attack from

the north. Then Iran gets involved militarily. I know you spent years and years at a general in the Air Force, but as far as planning the next several months, if you're part of the IDF, how much concerns would you have of Iran attacking along with Hesbla and along with hamas supported by everyone in the everyone in the air world. How much of a concern is that? Well, First and foremost, let's be very clear, Iran is a

sponsor. It's the greatest sponsor the world of exporting terrorism both through as you mentioned Hezela to the north and Amas to the south. They are sponsors already of Kamas during this attack. Their fingerprint are all over that, so let's be very clear on that point. Secondly, from a military standpoint, though, let's get down and attack the operational aspects of this. If I'm with the Israeli defense for US, I am very concerned about the North with regard

to Hesbelah. Hes Blaw is as a stronger military capability, and they also present a formidable foe to the North as you mentioned up and goal on and coming out of Lebanon. But so far they Heslah has been deterred to a point, and I think the Israelis are going to be able to focus pretty much on the assault into Gaza and focusing on you know, those sausages that need to be recovered. But it is a clear and present danger that hes

the law presents to Israel to the north. But they've been dealing with this bill for years. They understand that. Regarding your lawn, I don't see necessarily Ron creating a third front. But let me step up the game here from a geopolitical standpoint, So let's go a little bit broad utter uh than just the operational fight that is real faces right now. The United States is

confronting what I would call an authoritarian access. It's increasingly working together. You've got Iran supplying drones to Russia. You've got Russia and China where foodiness says there's there is a no limits to our partnership. You've got Russia, uh uh, negotiating with and also lashing up with North Korea and getting some weapons out of North Korea where their fight in Ukraine. You've got China, Taiwan and back to Iran, you've got to run making a strong sponsorship of Hamas

and Heslo and so forth. So this, this confrontration, this authoritarian access at the geopolitical strategy is very concerning to to me and observed concerning to UH the administration and others. The access this this authoritarian access, the access of the of what I would call it. They want to set the rules and topple the revelatives. The global stability the US, you know, has been forced since World War Two. Okay, let's be let's back that down again

right now. It just so happened that you know, we're in a really a very difficult chaotic state of world disorder. Uh. And so I would tell you know, it's this unprecedented assault on gods shows the reality of this global disorder that ever expanding every months. And so Israel for now happens to be on the front line build. But the democratic world, you know, democracy worldwide is really in in UH is in harm's way here. But again I want our listeners though, however, you know, let's not walk out

of our homes on eggshells and so forth. We need to be alert, we need to be uh, stay informed and so forth. But the US is going to confront us, regardless of the administration. But there is no longer an opportunity for US to stand by and let Israel or even ourselves appease these terrorists such as Hamas, such as Husa and Iran and so forth.

But what we don't want to do as a as a military leader, what I don't want to do is I don't want to create a more chaotic situation where I just aimlessly start to attack or feel compelled to have to to engage because I am limited my capabilities. But nonetheless, the next several weeks are going to be critical to Mid East peace. But my point done, I'll close on this. This whole idea of that authoritarian access is ever increasing as a thread around the world as well. We've got to stand up to you

know, the enemy gets the vote here. Yeah, that's what is so important that we would tell Congress. I would mention to those isolations both on the right and the left, that there are consequences of this through reality. Go with disorder, are you, yeah, Lieutenant General Richard Newton. The farther we Americans get away from nine to eleven, the more we act like

it's nine to ten and everything's okay. And in Israel I had a sense the further they got away from nineteen seventy three war, which is fifty years ago. In Gaza, in twenty oh seven they turned over to the Palestinian authority. Now there's the two state solution right there. You have, you have a beautiful part of the Mediterranean. You have the Palestinian authority, and okay, it's your by your ball and your ass. You now have the Gaza. See what you do with it. And the first thing that did

was vote in power Hamas and they've had no elections since. And so now there's two million people there or so heading in southern Gaza with nowhere to go. I watched some of the news reporting this morning, and the reporter standing on the border between Gaza and Egypt. As far as the eye can see, there's one hundreds of miles of desert for the two million people in Gaza,

there's nowhere to go. And I guess I have a concern general that down the road, when CNN reports about the humanitarian crisis that they're going to pin on Israel and not Hamas, that the American people will kind of flip sides wash their hands and say, look, no American soldiers are going to

fight and die in Gaza. And so if CNN was in Dresden the day after the fire bombing in nineteen forty four, nineteen forty five, and there were tens of thousands of innocent German civilians killed and burned alive, I'm not

sure America could have prosecuted World War two to a successful conclusion. Do you have a concern that when the media begins covering this in the days, weeks and months ahead of gods of residents, men, women and children that are obliterated because the choice of Amas to make them human shields, that the view

of the American citizen will change. Well. First and part of you know, all instruments of US national power need to be engaged with the challenge not only Israel's facing with Hamas and gods and so forth, and the threat of hesput to that would be diplomatic tools to see Sextuary state Blincoln appropriately and effectively meeting with King of Dulan, Jordan, and also we'll be meeting with Saudi

Arabian Egypt in United As on his trip. We've got Sectuary of Defense Lloyd Austin, who I know is now in Israel, showing that America has Israeli back. That's very important. But to make your point, or to kind of follow up on your point, there is no longer a choice between say, Israel and Iran. There is no longer a choice between Israel and Hamas

and Hesbod. This has been a false choice in my view leading up to Saturday, and therefore there is no status quo here that's going to ensue in my view after what will be a significant and effective and capable ground invasion to really decimate and kill Hamas, because the false choice that we've had up at

this point has really been to appease Iran. It's been to appease the Bulletes, it's been to appease Putin in Ukraine and so forth, and Chi and China and Kim in North Korea. We no longer have that false choice. The reality is based on this world disorder and a complexity. Bill of twenty first century workers starting in twenty twenty three and moving forward makes the world war

complex, and so we need to stand up to these terrorists. We can no longer appease you, no longer you know, except the status quo and so yeah, you're right after nine to eleven. You know, again, this is a this is a wake up called the United States of America. My last point is the United States is in a position right now as we have been to World War two. You know, either we lead, we follow, we get out of the way. We cannot afford to follow.

We can certainly not afford to get out of the way, because that's what you've got, you know, twenty seven hundred people killed, and thirteen hundred is really twenty seven Americans killed in godlam of or outside of Goblin. So that's my point. I agree. I think this is this is a new day. Status quo cannot be accepted. The United States hacked the lead and we have to be strong in all instruments of national power in order to be effected to make sure the world is a safer place for you and I,

but also for our kids and grandkids. And once again, Lieutenant General Richard Newton, national Security Advisor for News Nation, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And I go back to the remarks of the Great Douglas MacArthur when you receive the Thayer Award in nineteen sixty four when he said that only the dead have seen the end of war. It's a human condition and when these things occur, we must win. Lieutenant General Richard Newton, once again,

thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you General, Thank you, Bill. God bless America. All right, let's continue with more your reaction five point three seven four nine seven thousand, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW. In this week's Marketers Report, we hear about the importance of local radio. Alison Griffin, head of marketing at State Farm.

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the healthcare provider who will determine appropriate restrictions of placy website for details. An important song, Ny, let's set up the rest of this Friday afternoon's great programming. Number one, We're going to have after one o'clock today Christopher Smitherman to respond to Amy Murray about his so called issue twenty two, which is selling of the railroad ground owned by the City of Cincinnati to Norfolk Western.

And that'll be about one oh six today with Christopher Smitherman. And we've scheduled after two o'clock because of the kind offices of moeger Denesh Tasuza, who's going to come on to talk about your personal human rights at risk and a police state that may be forming in this country, plus reaction to what's happening in the Middle East and more. Plus high school football all over the place under

the leadership of Tony Pike. Tomorrow, u se'son of course Sunday's the Big Ones, the Bengals to mar Chasen Moore General points out a few things and

I want to put a sharper point on on this matter. Many many years ago, I think it was twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, there was a white racist named Dylan Rufe who was mentally disturbed, who had tried to get mental assistance before and things had failed, who thought it would be wise to go to a black church in Charleston, South Carolina sent among black parishioners listening to the services, then in the corner of the church get up and murder

in cold blood nine individuals, including the pastor, the minister, and also a couple of those fine old ladies praising the Lord. I could not think of a quicker trip to heaven than to be shot down by a murderer, a thug, and a racist named Dylan Roof in church. And surely there's

a heaven above. And those parishioners were there when that had concluded. I can recall that the President, Barack Hussein Obama went down there and calmed the fears of individuals I was with you on the radio, and his behavior was roundly condemned by everyone. There was no one on Dylan Roof's side saying, yes, good job, got to do more of that. I don't recall outside of black churches, Nazis or white supremacist as the black parishioners are going

in or coming out of black churches complimenting Dylan Roof. One can only imagine the reaction if that had transpired. There wasn't anyone who said, Dylan Roof, go get him. We need more of that. We support Dylan Roof

now on the other side of the coin. On Saturday morning and a well planned coordinated military attack by Hamas by land, sea and air, about two thousand bloodthirsty terrorists came across over and through the border fences with Israel, and they planned it to be the morning after Revelry had a so called rave in

the desert. Plus they picked out several kibbutzs, which are like social communes that exist in Israel and maybe nowhere else in order to kill as many people as they could before the IDF was able to get us act together and respond to turry three thousand terrorists who beheaded babies, tied down women and raped them, bayoneted and knife them to death, and committed horrible other desecrations of dead human bodies, including dragging nude Jewish girls through the streets of Gaza to the

cheers of the assembled multitude in Gaza City when that happened. And this wasn't one white, mentally ill racist in a black church in South Carolina, Dylan Rufe. This was an entire society of individuals in Gaza who wanted to do exactly what those militant murderers terrorists had done. I knew more of it. When that happened, there was a quick irruption of praise to what they had

accomplished and a little bit of a surprise. I think hamas murderers and their wildless moments from their perspective, could not have seen the success of their mission against unarmed Israelis, could not have imagined how successful that had been. When that occurred, all over the world, supporters came out of their hiding places to burn Israeli flags and to praise the activities of those who had babies treat their heads like bowling balls and put them in the lapse of tied down mothers

and fathers before they shot moms and dads in the head. Imagine that to me, it would have been impossible for anyone just stand up and support the activities of Dylan Ruth. That was a white racist terrorist who killed those innocent nine people in that church in Charleston, South Carolina. But similar actions took place with a mos In fact, one might say even worse of beheading babies, raping girls and women, setting women on fire and watching them run around

a kibbutz. And that's what happened so many times in life. Character is often not built, but it's revealed. There's certain amorl clarity that came to me which has been present but somewhat recessive about the intentions of Amas and HESBLA and al Qaeda and Isis just changed the name, slap a different bumper sticker on it, but it's killed the Jews kill Americans. You have to pay attention to what Iran and the Palestinian terrorist have been saying for forty to fifty

to sixty years. Pay attention and what they say. I tweeted this out a few days ago that if Israel tomorrow would be completely disarmed, and if Israel could not defend itself, the entire nation would be obliterated within two or three days. If, on the other hand, the terrorists would lose the ability to fight and lose all their weapons, the terrorists could not do what they do, there would be peace in the Middle East. All the Israelis want to do is live in peace, to live like normal people. Now.

When Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday of this week rolled around, there was more than twenty Harvard University groups comprised of hundreds of students at Harvard who pledge their undying support to the hamas murderers and rapist to the silence of the president

of Harvard. Her name is gay. And you and I have known for years, if you listened to me and to others in conservative media, that we know that higher education largely is filled with racist Colleges university are filled with racist admission policies where the color of your skin counts more than the content of your character. And it's long promoted colleges and universities locally and elsewhere, racially segregated forms of graduations, dormitories, and clubs, and de facto higher education

completely destroys the First Amendment completely. Riley gains the female swimmer, tried to speak at Penn State University about seven days ago and the campus president said, no, we don't need your type here. Riley Gaines was a Kentucky swimmer who did not want Leah Thomas and males to dress than to swim and women's events. But on most college campuses, those who advocate pro life conservative viewpoints that women should be women and go and men should be men and never the

twains shall meet except as intended destroying the First Amendment. But what we saw college campuses, especially in New York City and Chicago. A little bit here in Cincinnati was avert support for Hamas murderers, rapists under a banner of diversity, equity and inclusion. We need more diversity, equity and inclusion, which is a form of racism itself. George Orwell said, just call what you

intend the exact opposite. So if you practice racist principles on college campuses with separate dorms and graduation ceremonies and clubs organized by race, call it diversity equity and inclusion, and that hides your own personal racism. The Hamas wing of the Democratic Party, the Democratic Socialist members of the Democratic Party openly express ecstatic

support for Hamas's handiwork. Wanted it to happen, saw it happen. Supported Hamas and Palestinians and terrorists for years have fooled the idiots in Europe in the Obama and Biden administrations, and Is sending literally billions of dollars into Gaza for quote humanitarian reasons that were used to build tunnels and to buy rockets and give

money to Iran. And these moneys were funneled literally into tunnels to hide massive rocket arsenals and the craft, the plans to wipe out the Jews wherever they can found, from the river to the sea. That's the motto. From the Jordan River to the sea, kill Jews. You can openly say things

on almost every major college campus exactly that same thing. Over the last thirty three months, Biden, after he seized power, this regime resumed massive subsidies to radical Palestinians canceled by the Trump administration, and then provided literally tens of billions of dollars and additional oil revenues by getting rid of the sanctions in Iran, he ignored warnings from his own state department that fungible moneys would soon fuel

Hamos terrorism, releasing back to Iran that six billion dollars. But that's a tip of the iceberg. By having a policy in this country no more energy independence and relying upon oil from around the world, we have put into pocket of the Russians and the Iranians and the Saudi Arabians hundreds of billions of dollars. So it goes on and on and on, and as I said to

the General, it's appear to be a good man. General Newton provided by News Nation and Sean Compton that whether it's tonight or tomorrow, is Sunday, Monday or Tuesday, there's going to be a ground offensive conducted by the IDF and in the northern half of the Gaza given to the Palestinians. That is the two state solution, which is the Gaza Strip on the Mediterranean Sea, an area from roughly you go from Florence to Mason, that's about the length

of the Gaza Strip. Then there's three to seven miles across, maybe from Lawrenceburg to Claremont County. They had the opportunity to turn back to the Palestinians and twenty oh seven. Here it's on the Mediterranean or the authority, the European apologists and the Americans will give you billions and billions of dollars to build your own Palestinian state. Instead of doing so, they elected Hamas as the leader of their government and use those billions of dollars not for schools and education

and maybe tourist facilities. They used it to buy missiles and weapons and armaments to launch more attacks on Israel every now and then the past sixteen years. And then it metastasized on Saturday and a massive attack that was wild but successful, beyond their wildest emotions, how they could actually pull that one off. Because of the failure, and you heard General Newton talk about it. Of

the Israeli secret police and also America. You know the American Intelligence Service who said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, The American Intelligence Service who said that this information about about negative stuff about Trump was Russian disinformation. The Intelligence Service that said if you pull out of Afghanistan, it's going to be a governable area for years to come. You know that same intelligence service.

No lots of WMD and I rock that intelligence service caught with their pants down. Absolutely So. Now over the next few weeks, it's going to be ugly. The only way to win the ground wars with ground troops and tanks don't do well in urban environments. But whether it's today tomorrow, by the end of next week, there's going to be thousands of Israeli soldiers killed by the terrorists, and sadly, the death of tens of thousands or hundreds of

thousands of Gaza residents, which is unfortunate. Their death and their blood is on the hands of Hamas. Much like Germans civilians who were killed during World War II during the bombings that Hamas chose, and the Palestinian people chose to elect Hamasis's government. Now they have to live with it. It is sad pray for the innocent souls of those who are lost in Gaza. But ultimately Israel will free Gaza from the clutches of the bloodthirsty murderers and rapists known as

Hamas. And the course of this world is not known, but the final outcome has got to be a free, democratic Gaza governed by Palestinians, not under the control of murderers, rapists and thieves, much like German Germany was freed from the clutches of Adolph Hitler because of the bravery of American soldiers, sailors and marines. Ultimately, Gaza residents are victimized by Hamas, just as the Israelis have been bayoneted and raped and beheaded at the hands of that murderous

organization. Wars are tough. General Douglas MacArthur said in nineteen sixty four. There is no substitute for victory, and not only the dead have seen the end of war. I wish it was different, I wish it was better but America in Israel are God's representatives on earth, and it must be that. Israel, which is pussy footed around for decades because of the restraint put upon them by Americans and Europeans, must clean out Gaza and Hezbolah in Lebanon

and bring pox Israel American politics to that part of the world. Failure to do so will always mean the obliteration and a second Holocaust in Israel, and that cannot happen. So let's continue if line becomes available, which it never does five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand and

U. It is sick, and it's sad. But there's enemies inside our gates, mainly in colleges and universities, which are in doctrination centers of the radical left who use diversity and equity and inclusion to hide and mask their true intent, which is to bring about a socialistic left wing world and to destroy Jews wherever they can be located. And thank god, there's a voice in

the wilderness at times that calls them out for what they are. Most of our major colleges and universities are run by racists who multiply, subtract, add and divide by race. And they permit it to happen, and at some point it must stop. Now let's continue twelve fifty five Home of Your Bengals

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in the Tri State area. Now you can relive half Little Bowl, bad of the Bold the Bowl like Bully Cunningham, the Great America. Let's continue, We'll never stop. Coming up in about one hour is denesh De Suza, a good friend of Moe Hagger who set up the interview with Denesta Susan. I thank Moegger very much for that documentary filmmaker Denesha Suza coming on in about an hour, but until then a few days ago. Ahead on Amy Murray, who is a former council member but now she's part of the group

on the railway board that wants to sell. Wants to sell the railroad between here and Chattanooga to Norfolk Southern instead of collecting about twenty five million dollars a month. Amy Murray and others say that's going to be greatly more than that. Since I had Amy Murray on a few days ago, I've received quite a bit of information from Kevin Flynn and Christopher Smitherman and others from the negative

side. Part of my missionaire is to have a full, well rounded debate and presentation of the pros and cons of selling this important city asset which could be used in the future for god knows what. But nonetheless, Christopher Smitherman is on the other side of the issue. He says, vote no on on Issue twenty two. And Christopher Smitherman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham

Show. And Christopher always good to have you with us. Can you tell the American people that two or three or four reasons not to sell, not to accept one point six billion, and to do something different? Well, thanks Willie for having me on. You know, one of the key things that I wanted to really emphasize is that our very thoughtful forefathers in May fourth of eighteen sixty nine, A lot of people don't know that bought three hundred

plus miles of railroad from Cincinnati to Tennessee. So, first of all, do you ask Cincinnatians in our fifty two neighborhoods. They might not even know that we own this kind of very valuable land. And so we've owned it for one hundred and fifty four years, Willie, and we have never there's

never been a misspayment in one hundred and fifty four years. So one, and this notion that members of the railroad board are articulating that somehow there's going to be a mispayment or the railroad is going to go out of business when one of the greatest investors in the world is Warren Buffett who continues to invest in rail Meaning if I put Warren Buffett up against Mayor pure Ball, who do you pick, You're going to pick Warren Buffett. So Warren Buffett is

clearly continuing his expansion in this space. And so this notion that REIL is going out of business, REIL is only expanding. It's incredibly valuable. And I think I'll start there. And I think the second point to make is this notion that the politicians are going to put the money in a lock box.

That always makes me nervous. Willy Okay. I mean, if I go to Willie Cunningham and I say, Willie, do you trust politicians look at Social Security that are saying they're going to put the money, however much money it is, does not even get to the one point six billions, let's say a five billion, let's say it's three hundred million, whatever it is, they're going to put the money in a lock box? Do you trust that that is what is going to ultimately happen? Meaning because once we

sell the land, it is gone forever. You cannot reproduce land. That's what makes it so precious and so priceless. So I don't think first that I'm not trusting that the politicians are going to hold to their word put the money in some type of instrument, and that it's going to be a lock box. So I'll start, I'll stop there. I have more points, and just see what do you think about those two points. Wells, we've owned it for one hundred and fifty four years. There's never been a mispayment.

We're currently making approximately twenty six million. And by the way, when we renegotiate this deal in a couple of years, we'll start off probably near thirty million dollars for their first payment to the citizens of Cincinnati, Miami, Murray says, and the board says, including Charlie Lookan, et cetera, that they began, but the idea of eight hundred million to one point six billion dollars, and that don't want to be in bed with Norfolk Southern,

who is the railroad operator that gave us East Palestine. That if something happens in a few years where Norfolk Southern has a thousand lawsuits penning against them and they've got to go through a bankruptcy proceeding, that we don't want to be

on partnership with a possibly bad actor. And why have all your eggs in one basket, which is Norfolk Southern, when you could take the money, which the market price, she says, is one point six billion dollars and then hold that through the board, which is not necessarily a political board because they have people like Charlie Luken and me Thing and Amy Murray on the board, have to have puivoal would have to go through the board or whatever to

get the money. But they claim, can you address yourself to the issue that why not take one point six billion dollars and not be in bed with Norfolk Southern. So first, Norfolk Folk Southern, I'm an agreement is a bad actor, okay. And this notion that we would sell to Norfolk Southern prior to knowing what the EPA is saying. So I have a different bent on this because first, I don't think we should be selling public assets.

So let me start there, meaning I don't this same group of people who are some of them who are on this board, moved to sell our water, They try to sell our street lights. They tried to sell the Western Skills Viaduct to a hedge fund and we pay a toll. They tried to sell our sanitation department to runky. So first, let me just share with you there's a trend here let's sell things that aren't nailed down, and I

just don't share that perspective. And so this notion that we're going to set, we're going to get out of bed with Norfolk Southern as if they're the only rail business in the world. So the reality of it is we might be collecting their payments willly of thirty million to forty million to fifty million,

million to sixty million out in the future. You and I will be long gone, but our forefathers who put this deal together will be collecting it from Norfolk Southern or collecting it from some other rail road company who is using our rail So this notion that they're the only railroad in business. The other thing is, you know, I'm not suggesting that anybody go out. You know that I'm a financial planner. I'm licensed, so I don't like to talk

about publicly traded companies and what people should buy or not. But this notion that this publicly traded company that trades well above two hundred dollars a yare that one day it's going to be out of business. This is the gnat on the back of an elephant as it relates to the fees that it's going to pay or find it's going to pay to the federal government. So that's that's just a commentary by people who obviously don't understand the financial markets and the value

of Norfolk Southern and their ability to pay something like this. This is like saying Boeing who had two crashes three years ago and it's paid fines to the to the to the federal government in some way, that that company is going to go bankrupt because they have to pay these signs. These businesses are in business, they understand these things, the risks that they take for derailments or planes that fall out of the air and people die. They have insurances to

cover those things. So that's just not going to be the case. The bigger picture that I have is this notion that they're going to invest the money and do better than the land. Meaning if you look at how they've managed the Cincinnati retirement system, which you and I have talked about, this notion that we're eight hundred million dollars underfunded in the Cincinnati retirement system that they said they were going to manage will meaning we're the only city in the state of

Ohio that has its own retirement system. So we know their track record, really Cunningham as it relates to investing, So this notion that they're going to get a return. You look at your money like I look at my money. Right now, we're not going to talk about what the assets are, but you look at your money like I look at mont and you know you've invested long enough to know that there are times that you have bad markets,

like last year where the bond market and the equity market went down. So this notion that they keep putting forward that they're going to get this set kind of return without losses along the way is just absolutely mis misinformation to the public. Meaning I trust the land, I trust having a hard asset. I trust investors like a Warren Buppet, more than I trust Mayor pure Ball. Let me make another very important point. Who's funding this campaign? Will he

cunning in now City Hall? Look, Willie Norfolk Southern is funding the campaign that is putting Mayor pure Ball's faith on our TV every hour on the hour. This is important because we had three members of council arrested by the FBI and one of his number one goals was to restore trust. His treasurer is running the campaign for twenty two and Norfolk Southern is putting money in the campaign for twenty two. He then is in time directly benefiting by putting his face

on TV with a multi million dollar campaign. Let's say it's a million, Let's say it's one point five million. It's a significant campaign with all the direct mail that's coming in all the TV apps, and he's up for reelection next year. I'm saying to you, if I were the mayor. If someone else like a David Man, who I support, it was the mayor.

I just can't see them saying I'm going to put my face on something like this where I'm personally benefiting as I'm trying to encourage the citizens of Cincinnati to sell an asset and the company that I'm selling to is actually funding the campaign. You know what's problematic to me? Running him? Yeah, Christopher, when I see the ads, and I see him constantly. We don't have the money to fix firehouses. We have to shut down a police station

I think District four or five because they're not enough money. And then we have potholes everywhere, and so you know the numbers better than most people, as the vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati for so many years. Why isn't there money currently available to do those things? The mayor talks about and he said, the only way to get the money is through the sale, and if we don't do it, all these things aren't going to be fixed.

So you know, really, you and I poked fun because most people don't know that we're good friends and that I tease you about being on your roof sometimes and you may lemonade out of that right, and so this is this No, this is a notion where you have a city council that should have been fixing their roof, but instead they were taking trips around the world. What am I talking about? The example would be the thtree car. Okay, So they spent one hundred and fifty four million on the street car.

They went in debt ninety four million. This is all capital dollars. Really, this is dollar for dollars. They could have been fixing roads instead of building the street car. They then spend five million a year to service the debt and five million to operate it. So we're ten million into that streetcar every single year. That's competing directly with fire, police, sanitation,

the operation of the city and also the capital of the city. So one of the reasons that this city has had the kind of deferred maintenance issues problems is they continue to take their eye off the ball and they focus on capital projects that don't make this So they're not fixing roads, they're not dealing with deferred maintenance or recreation centers, and they're not fixing our police cruisers are making

sure that we have vehicles to plow the snow. So what this. What I'm sharing with you is a history of Democrats and city Hall keeping their eye off the ball. And now what they want to do is have a fire side sale of our assets so that they can build the second phase of the street car. So as they negotiate hold this is important really as because they say, here are our list of priorities, really and the reality of it

is that those priorities are not binding. Meaning after we vote on it, city Council can say that's great, this is what we sold you on. We told you about all these things. But we're actually gonna build the second phase of the street car, or we're gonna do existing infrastructure on the current street car, or we're gonna deal with infrastructure related to the stadium deal with

the Bengals, or we're gonna focus on the arena that we want. The point that I'm making to you is that I would rather have the money coming in on an annual basis so you and I have the ability to unelect a mayor and unelect the council who is not taking care of our priorities. Instead of selling the whole asset, putting it in some kind of fund and trusting that the politicians don't have a back door to get the money, or that

they put together a priority list that you and I disagree with it. This is a very serious This is a generational kind of transaction on issue to and why I'm urging citizens sold so vehemently to vote No. One on twenty two. It's not because I don't like Amy Murray. I love her. I love her, I love her, Okay, her husband, Wally, wonderful people. This is not personality driven at all. We have a disagreement about the direction of our city. I want one hundred and fifty four year agreement

to continue to be here for our children, our great grandchildren. I want us to be collecting sixty and seventy and eighty million dollars a year from whatever railroad that we're leasing to. And it just doesn't make any sense right now, Willie. Now, the last thing I'll tell you the nineteen ninety six stadium deal. I want you to go back to that deal. The same cast the politicians were telling us this was a great deal, Democrats, Republicans

all across the county. It ended up being the worst stadium deal by ESPN in the history of the United States of America. I'm sharing with you just because Mayor Pure who is from Dayton, Ohio and is now the mayor who comes in and says he wants to fires sell our assets, says that it's a great deal for us. He doesn't mean that it is. And the stadium deal is a great example. If anybody could go back and redo that vote, they would say, no, we wouldn't do it. We're gonna

have to deal with that stadium now, the Brown families coming back. And I don't want our railroad money of one point six billion dollars going to support the infrastructure for a deal like that, or the arena or the existing streetcar. That's why I have so many problems with this deal. And guess what, no public hearings will the counting him fifty two neighborhoods, no public hearing

outside of the Cincinnati Inquire at the Museum Center. So most of our neighbors in the fifty two neighborhoods where you're talking about Hyde Park now lookout Bond Hill, Evingston's South, Cummingsville, Camp Washington, Clifton North Side, they don't even know that this deal is out there because the board did not go out and do the kind of engagement across our fifty two neighborhoods that this kind of

a transformative, generational deal before them deserved. I think what we'll do, Chrisipher, about a week before the election, if you permitted to, we'll have you and Amy Murray in studio mono a woman mono to get the issues before Will you confront Amy Murray in person a week before the election. I will not confront her, but I absolutely am willing to come in the studio and share with you my perspective of why this deal is a very, very

bad deal for the citizens of Cincinnati. Absolutely, I'll be there. I'll be there with my friend and let me share with you that no matter how much money they're spending, they did the same thing for the water deal when they tried to sell our water, they still lost at the ballot box. This is in the hands of the bosses, and that's the people of Cincinnati, and I'm urging them willing to vote no on Issue twenty two, Save our rail, save it for for the next one hundred and fifty four years.

I'm going to contact Amy Murray to see if she's got the guts to confront you and we'll go from there. Christopher Smooth, Thank you. All right, let's continue with more and there you have the other side of the issue, news coming up and more plus Moeger's good friend Daneshta SUSA will be here about two eight to talk about all things relative to the Middle East and also to the loss of our human rights and our legal rights here in America.

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So he's just a great receiver. Tip my hat off to him with you know what he's done the first three years in the league. So you know, it'd be fun to watch Sunday, but I think it's going to get the best of them. Hello, Hello, Quiet and I'm skos, I'm broadcasting god. Sega's TK Metcalf of the Legion of Doom talking about Jamar Chase, who's always open yet twenty four to seven. He's like seven eleven, But seven elevens aren't always open. I don't are there many seven elevens

left? I haven't seen one locally. Maybe I don't know if he isn't. But that's uh, give me your That's all I gotta say. Brother seven eleven from seven elevens? Right? He ought to get an advertising game one? Yeah, is there a seven eleven? I don't know around here. I don't know. I don't know. Well, seg give me your perspective on the Legion of Doom and what's going to happen on Sunday, Uh,

Willie. I think that the Bengals are going to win and go into the break, uh three and three, and then the second half's going to open up, and hopefully they do the same thing they did last year, reel off of what about seven or eight in a row? Then everybody can

calm down. But right now, right out of the break, it's the West coast trip to the forty nine ers not good, but so we'll see what what if they beat the forty nine ers brought Perny, Well, what if they the well if they Yeah, if they go out west and beat them like they beat Arizona, that's it, Bingo, just give them the Lombardi. I'll take my chances of the rest of the ways. Ted McKay. If Collins Rotha didn't drop so many balls in the Super Bowl, they

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Coverage begins at six with Cincinnati Children's High School Football Tonight Show on ESPN fifteen thirty down, Fox Sports thirteen sixty Cincinnati Children's Changing the outcome together, the home of Dusty Roads. The Games among the Games Tonight Warriors V Park at Bill Cunningham Stadium, off of Bill Cunningham Boulevard. I mean the Golden State Warriors. No, Marymont at Deer Park should be an easy victory for the

Park. Fairfield and Middletown Indies Indians against the Midies, Princeton at Cole Raine Vikings versus the Birds, Taylor at Reading, Yellow Jackets against Tony Pike and the Blue Devils. Let's see, Ooh, Anderson and Turpin. A good old west side battle or east side battle right there? Willie Raptors against the Spartans, Williamsburg and Bethel Tate. Williamsburg I think has won seventy five thousand games in a row. Who's that quarterback? They have a good quarter I

know, I'm trying to think of it. Let's see what I mean. Rock Party Carlisle takes on Madison, the home of the Mohawks and the Regatta. Yeah, Waynesville at Eton Skydivers. Yes, Roger Bacon and Purcell Marion Spartan's Cavaliers. Do they play in Roger Staubach Stadium? Uh? No, that play at Percell the home of the Uh that's Rogers Starpbach Stadium, you fool? Oh that's right. Sorry. Roger Tomorrow Saint X at Cleveland sat I Nas. We're going to talk about that on Monday with the rock Big

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preseason coaches poll. Houston second, followed by Texas, Baylor and TCU in the top five. What about the Bearcats pick the finish eleventh out of fourteen? Not good now, Xavier and Sean Miller, whilst having their own difficult well, they got the Musketeer tip off tonight at the Centas Center. The free event starts at six o'clock. Maybe I should be there or throw the ball up. Both men's and women's Musketeer teams will hold a scrim madge and

a lot more activities tonight at Sentas Center. We'll see what happens. Back to the Bengals, it looks like t Higgins is gonna play Sunday that fractured rib and of course DK metcalf at the beginning of the show here opened his mouth of saying that rookie Devin Witherspoon is going to take care of Jamar Chase. What do you think? No, Jamar Chase has much more uh savvy than Devin Witherspoon. But we'll see. They gotta worry about They gotta worry

about Bobby Wagner and uh their quarterback on Seattle. They're pretty good, of course. I think that what what who used to be there, Jim Zorn? It's been a few decades since then. Yeah, let's see what else you got going on? EHL Hockey Tonight, Cyclones opened the preseason schedule Downtown against the Indie Fuel Mimmy RedHawks have their home home opener tonight in Oxford against Denetius and baseball. How about the Phillies dispatching the Braves for a second year

in a row. I like that another one hundred win team is out of the playoffs. They lose and go home. The last time the Reds won a series was nineteen ninety five, when they beat the Dodgers four straight. Right, then what happened when they came back and played the Braves four straight? Former Red Nick Castiano's two home runs last night? Wouldn't he looked good in the Reds uniform? Slightly? He's got the wrong color red on though.

So. The America League Championship Series begins Sunday night Rangers and Astros. NLCS begins Monday, Phillies hosting the d Backs. The postseason is completely different than the regular season, and the top five teams in baseball none made it. Dodgers out one hundred wins, Baltimore out one hundred wins, Atlanta out one hundred wins, Milwaukee out out, Tampa Bay out. So what's left is uninteresting? Would you agree? I mean, I mean, you know

Texas is rolling through the American League like Sherman through Atlanta. Might be Texas in Philadelphia? Or what about Texas Arizona? No one, I'll pack them in. Who cares? Is saying, who cares? Oh, you got to get the pills in there. We got to get our man, Kyle Schwarber out of Middletown into the World Series. That'd be good. Of course, he has a ring that's correct from the Cubbies, right is that twenty sixteen? Fifteen? I think so? Yeah, pretty good stuff. See

what happens? But see what amas but high school football everywhere tonight? Correct, tomorrow you see homecoming Iowa State, Sunday Steelers or I mean Seahawks, Bengals, Bengals and more correct, pretty good stuff. Segment, Get me out of the student's report, getting ready for all the lies ahead, Willie and unnor of everybody, have a good weekend, and watch out for the rain. The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plane. We leave you

with the immortal words of the stood report. Now I'm open. I'm always him up a thing. What happens when his contract is up later this year, and the brilliance of Mike Brown, who never loses the negotiation, is paying Joey, but mainly in the years ahead, yeah, the next two or three years. Yeah not much. Yeah, but that's Burrow's main man is Jamar Chase. He's not going anywhere, I hope not. No, keep him in t Higgins. Well, see what happens, and maybe they

can't keep everybody, Yes they can. How do you what do you like in charge of finance? Some good teams do doaes. They got the dough the rain to me much more than we do. No, really, no, I don't know about that. I think right now the hey, them Bengos got to step up and say no, we got it going. They took care of Burrow, they took care of Logan Wilson, who's going to be there Monday with you. We'll forget that Monday night, bring raising money

for the park. Deer Park needs help. And Logan Wilson after Luke Keighley number fifty five, and Gary Sullivan after Roger Staubach and Dale Donovan. Dale Donovan is going to buy a table are they're all slow? Is going to come and help raise money for Deer Park High School for athletics and the band. There you go, I say great, now, get all the superstars now. Little Outings had raised about two hundred thousand dollars for Deer Park sports

each year. How about that total? Oh it looks pretty good, not bad. It's important to get people like uh, Harry Yagy's there, and the christ Gary Green and you, Mike Green and Sean Donovan and you and thousands and thousands of desperate Deer Park supporters and you want to reclaim the glory and want to see you of all, that was very rare public appearance. I don't like the public, as you know. I don't like people. Well the first lady attend, yes, oh man, she was on the

couple of nights. Yes, I guarantee you they will shut down Montgomery Road when Air Force one lands. How about Rocky and Eddie fingers talking to Penelope? Are what it happened? Two nights ago? Where was this? I was walking around my modified police police will state at five o'clock. Yeah, and I did my little bit and at some point Penny heard me say something that she disagreed with. She looks at me and says, give me the

phone. No, are you serious? I said, dear, wait a minute, wedd I said Wednesday. Here you are the first lady with a rarefied air appearance. What the I talked to Eddie and the rock That's all I can say. What was the disagreement over? Well? She said that, uh, I only changed the wet diapers, not the dirty ones. Oh. We talked about raising babies and children, and so weighed in on her thoughts on matter. She set the record, we can't use Jos's cuts, right, no, that is prohibited. It is a rare tape.

I was gonna say wow. When she looked at me and said give me the phone, I said, there you go, am addict. Wow, that will go. That will go in the archive of history even skip a skip static contests and said that was funny. Wow. Well she talks, I believe me. I know she talks. But she thinks my radio program and career tell her it's ridiculus. What about coming down here nine to midnight? She says, you are you are ridiculous. I said, well,

thank you? What's for me? That's right, that's what Obama calls in. She thinks what I do is silly. It is. Yes, she does not going to be involved in my silliness. But she likes Rocky and she likes Eddie. Wow, not so much me. Man, that's big.

So it is what it is. Right. Segment Thank you, coming up about an hour or so will be Sharon Coolidge of the Inquiry, But after two o'clock is danesh to SUSA, and I want to thank Moe Egger for setting up my interview coming up in about ten minutes with the SUSA about America becoming up police state and now college campuses have revealed their dei chomps by their protest against Jews and in favor of rapists and murderers. That's what's happening

on college campuses. So Danish to Susan Moeggar, thank you very much. We've got action all over the place. Let's continue with more. One fifty five Home of your Bengals. Here's Radio seven hundred wulw on chili days. Nothing warms me up like a bowl of cream of hogjel soup. It fills the home with its earthy pig scent, and each steaming spoonful is filled with plenty of plump hogjol. It's the perfect piggy for listening to Eddie and Rocky.

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to many in our country? And Denesh Tsuza, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show and Dnesh. Before we get onto your documentary of your film, which appears to be it's going to be a blockbuster about what especially the FBI and other government agencies are doing to those they disagree with. I wanted you to reaction the last week or ten days what's happening in the Middle East,

not so much the politics of the Middle East, but America. When I watch college campuses erupt in violence, Israeli flags burn all over the place, from Los Angeles to New York, from Chicago to Miami to Austin, Texas.

The radical left, also behind the sins and crimes committed by the FBI, is out at once again on behalf of mass murderers and rapist What does this say about the status of the far left in America today, Well, what it says is that there has been massive indoctrination that has been going on in our schools and universities. And that is, by the way, one of the features of a police date right. Censorship is one, but mass

indoctrination is another. And so to come out with these brazen statements in favor of the terrorists right after a gruesome terrorist attack, I mean that just shows the degree to which these activists have been conditioned to see the West and Israel and America as the enemy. And so I'm actually glad that They're being exposed for what they are because I think for the first time, the rest of America is seeing, Wow, we have been cultivating this kind of contagion on

our campuses. Another point I want to make, which relates to my film, is the fact that there's a massive intelligence failure here. But it's not just a failure on the part of the Israeli intelligence but also US intelligence. Think about all the powers that US intelligence agencies were given after nine to eleven and to do what to track these radical Islamic terrorists who are bent on attacking us and our allies. Well, why did they have no clue that this

was coming? And I think the answer to that is because they were so focused on, you know, what they call domestic extremism. They're so focused on monitoring some seventy year old grandmother who strolled into the Capitol for like fifteen minutes on January sixth, that as a result, they're not watching the people

they need to be watching. Yeah, dnashis susa if when Dylan Rufe did what he did in Charleston, South Carolina, sitting in a black church with a semi automatic handgun, listening to the preaching and then get up and brutally murder in cold blood nine Christians whose souls right now are in heaven above.

If there was a large group of Americans on the far right that would have taken up the cause of Dylan Ruf and stood in front of black churches as pershoners, coming and going with maybe the ku Klux Klan flag supporting Dylan Roof, that's the analogy I make to what Hamas did a week ago Saturday and what is happening in major universities and in major cities. No one came out and supported Dylan Roof, and everyone identified him as a white racist mass murderer

who should be executed, and at some point federally he will be. But when it comes to Hamas beheading babies, raping girls and women and pulling their nude bodies down the middle of the main street in Gaza's city to the cheers of the masses, and then cities and universities erupting and praise and glory of Amas, I just it's like I don't know my country anymore, at least a part of it that celebrates Hamas murderers. Well, what we've seen is

that over the last generation multiculturalism and anti colonialism. These are the theory, and then terrorism is the practice. Now I would have assumed that some people spout the theory without recognizing that this is what it leads to. But it's really been very chilling to see that there are people, and some of them, you know, professors and activists on very fine campuses, and yet they seem to not flinch when they see that, you know what, our anti

colonial theory involves killing civilians. There was a very interesting post by a professor who said that settlers are not civilians. What she's really saying is if an Israeli settler family is now living in a disputed territory, you should treat them like a soldier, and it's perfectly okay to kill them. I mean, it kind of made my jaw drop, But you're right. I think a lot of this is waking people up to threats them, By the way,

aren't just over there. I mean, think about it. If you're Hamas and you wanted to send a thousand well fighters into the United States, would it be that hard to do it? Absolutely not. Not. Today. I often have guests on the talk about the wide open southern border that we have in this country right now, and that so far this year, one hundred and fifty one known Islamic terrorists have been apprehended. That's the tip of the iceberg. And the experts I have on tell me and tell you that

at some point they're sleeper sales in this country, ready to act. Let's get on to your new film, police state and the good old days. When I thought of the FBI, I thought of Jimmy Stewart, I thought of Ephim Zimbalist Junior. I thought of fidelity, bravery and integrity. But something dramatic happened after nine to eleven. Explain what happened that has fundamentally it created almost a police state in this country when you don't think the right way.

Ironically, so many of us are complicit in what happened, because so many of us, me included, said after nine to eleven, Hey, we've got to give the government all these enhanced surveillance powers because we need to keep track of all the foreign terrorists out there who are trying to harm us and to kill us. Little did we know that as we fast forward a few years and come into the Obama years, they go, wait a minute, we've got all these great powers, and now really almost without reason,

we can start spying on people. We can start tracking our political opponents. We can start finding crimes that they did, even though we're not researching the crime. We're targeting the person first and then going after them for doing something wrong. In other words, all of this weaponry of government has now been turned internally, not against Islamic terrorists, but against patriots and Conservatives and Republicans

and Christians. And in fact, when you talk I'm a practicing Roman Catholic, when you talk about those who consider abortion clinics and planned parenthood to be killing of unborn, healthy babies, they particularly went after Mark Hawk and others who simply peacefully protested out in front of planned paradoidic clinics. Talk about the targeting of religious groups because of their beliefs by the FBI, they've been targeting

traditional Catholics. In fact, we know the FBI and the other intelligence agencies. By the way, some people say, De Nasha, you're making a film on the FBI the other police agencies of government. If you take for example, the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, it is ten times bigger than the FBI, they're very involved in censorship, they're very involved in

political targeting. But what's happened with these agencies is they they will use something like your support for a Latin Mass, which is nothing more than a kind of I'd like to express my Catholicism this way. I like to hear the mass the way it used to be said in Latin. And yet it's like, Wow, that's a marker. This is probably some kind of a white supremacist. This is somebody that we need to be wire tapping or following or keeping track off. So look at the degree to which our country has you

know, it's almost become unrecognizable. From when I came here as a teenager in the late nineteen seventies, I said to myself, Wow, I'm in this great country. It's got letters of opportunity. It's got all these freedoms that are spelled out in the Bill of Rights, the right to free speech, the right to conscience, the right to petition the government without fear, the right to equal justice under the law. And now I realize that every

single one of those rights is in serious jeopardy. I mean, the pretext might vary, you know, it's COVID so you can't go to church. It could be after January sixth. We've got a sense for people who talk about election frauds, So there are different reasons given, but it's quite clear we are moving into we are moving in the same direction, and that is toward a curtailment of our liberties. As far as so called evil Trump supporters.

The government getting ready for twenty twenty four, and Newsweek has finished a piece on targeting of those who would support Donald Trump. How does that work into your new film The Police State? I mean, this is a straight police state tactic, right, and you go after the leader of the opposition party and then you go after his supporters. Police states tend to be one party states. I mean, let's just look at some unfree societies around the

world, where it's North Korea, China and the old Soviet Union. They have what are the ingredients that define these tyrannical societies. They have mass surveillance, they have censorship, they have indoctrination in the media and in schools, propaganda. They are one party states. They tend to try to lock up opposition leaders. It's not that they don't have elections. I mean Iran has elections. China has elections, but they do allow a viable or effective opposition

party. Then you have political prisoners. So I look around in America and I say, well, again, we have all those elements that have now crept into American society and actually done so with surprising rapidity. All of this has happened really just in the last few years. If ten years ago I had said to people I'm making a movie called police State, they would surely think I'm making it about Cuba or China or some other society, but not

our own. And in fact, could the Republican Party, under theories of the modern Hamas wing of the Democratic Party be labeled as terrorists and therefore simply to be a Republican or opposed Joe Biden? Could that happen where if you're a Conservative, you're a terrorist. I think that we are headed in that direction, and by that I mean we're not a full fledged police state yet.

And that's why I made the film, because frankly, if we are a full fledged police state, they wouldn't allow me to make s film. So there's a window of time in which we can block what is coming and hopefully roll it back. But yes, in a full fledged police state. Once the jaws of a police state slam shut, then basically we're doomed. I mean, then the only thing you can do is run, and by that I mean get out, get your family out, get your money out,

because the whole country in effect, is turned into a prison. Lastly, I'm watching a few weeks ago Christopher Ray, the director of the FBI, who's a Putts. And I don't mean the men and women ninety five percent of the FBI. I broadcast close to an FBI headquarters in Cincinnati, Ohio. It's right there. I know several of the men and women who

worked their US Marshall Service and great Patriots, et cetera. But when he testified under oath that he could not state whether or not paid FBI employees were part of the crowd that entered the Capitol on January the sixth, when it's his job because of oversight. The FBI is under the control of the United

States Congress. They fund everything they do. But it's an easy answer to say, uh, Senator or Congressman, I can assure you that no FBI assets were used directly or indirectly to commit crimes on the US Capital Complex. He didn't answer that question. Repeatedly he was asked, and repeatedly he said, I can't answer. Why is that? That's because I think he was

he didn't want to tell the truth. And the truth is that there was considerable infiltration of the January sixth, not just the FBI, many agencies of the government, including the Capitol Police and so on. And let's think about January sixth for a moment, because because the left narrative is that these Trumpsters wanted to stop the you know, the certification of the election. But what was really going on in that building at that time was not certification. It

was objects to certification. It was people who were saying, we need to look into voter fraud. The election was stolen, and it was that process that was stopped. So no Trumpster wanted to stop that, but there were plenty of Democrats that wanted to shut down any questioning of the election. So the true meaning of January sixth is that they let those people into the building. That's why there were no bullhorns telling people you got to leave. This

is a forbidden building. You can't be in here, you got to get out. You never heard any of that that was the dog that didn't bark. So anyway, the film is about all this stuff, and it brings home to people in a cinematic way what's going on in the country. I kind of feel a little bit like the animal that has seen, you know, a predator in the trees and is trying to warn the herd that we

are all in danger and we need to take protective action. What we've done, Bill, is we bought out hundreds of theaters and on two days, October twenty third and twenty fifth, you can watch the film in the theater, which is a great way to see if this is a film made for the theater. But the only way to get the tickets is to go to

the website, which is police statefilm dot net polifstatefilm dot net. If you can't make it to the theater, then on Friday, October twenty seventh, there is a virtual premiere so you can watch from home the full screening of the film and a live Q and A with Dan Bongino and me to follow, and all of that is for the price of a movie ticket. So the one stop shop to get tickets for this movie police Statefilm dot Net.

Well, I would say Denestisuza that if come next November, if we elect another interchangeable drill bit, whether it's Biden or a Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or Governor Whitmer, just another left wing drill bit, just expression. I could not imagine you if that happens and that entity is in charge for eight years beginning in twenty twenty four to twenty thirty two, what the country looks like in twenty thirty going on the same path, because it cannot survive four

to eight to twelve more years of the policies of Barack Hussein Obama. Who's really the president, He's the puppeteer behind the drape right now. It's not Joe Biden. He puts a lid on things by eleven o'clock in the morning. It's Obama and his alkholites. Imagine America four to eight more years after twenty twenty four. It's a horrific thought because look at the way in which we have seen a noose tightening around our neck just in the last couple of

years. It started under Obama. I mean, I agree, the harassment, the IRS, harassment of TEA party groups, even my own case, they went after me with the full force of the federal government for a technical campaign finance violation. But even then, at that time, I didn't see that my case was a precursor to what would happen with Carter Page Papadopolis Michael Flynn. Now, of course Trump and look at this. I mean, these ninety plus indictments. I mean, how or it is that it's like

they're using a shotgun. If we can't get him in DC, we'll get him in Georgia. If we can't get him in Georgia, we'll get him in New York. If we can't get him on the criminal stuff, will destroy his business. I mean, this is classic police state tactics, all right. The it is police statefilm dot net, police statefilm dot net, Go online and do as required. Denesta SUSA, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're not a police state yet,

but this is one hell of a warning. Denesta SUSA, Thank you very much. I appreciate it. God bless America. Let's continue with more news and more's next at your home with the Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen, lets you plead your case tomorrow. Morning at nine on seven hundred WLW. These days Americans are forced to earn extra income. Justify Brandon, I'll take improve in pharmaceuticals to test for side effects. We have a

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It's like three or four circles, you know, And then they interact with each other in some circles blend into this circle, and that line goes into this line of that one. Just make a bunch of circles one or something and the ven diagram helps you to understand the issue. So she's going to look at three circles and turn in between each other and figure out like what's going to happen in a foreign policy and energy thing and all this stuff.

She loves ven diagrams. I'll tell you she's the main reason people don't want Biden to step down, which is pretty smart in her plan. But I agree because if he's stepp how about this event diagram is an illustration that uses circles to show the relationships among things or finite groups or things that interact but don't become one. Circles that overlap have a commonality, while circles that do

not overlap do not share those traits. Ven diagrams help to visually represent the similarities, differences, and nuances between one, two or three different concepts and how they interact one with the other in certain circumstances. You know what I'm saying. Huh, That's what I was saying. But she loves Vin diagram. So you look at three circles and they interact with each other. I mean, what do you do? Like? You know? Like are you

on something when you do this? Or? Ven diagrams are especially useful for highlighting similarities and differences, and are commonly used to compare contrast and to explain that characteristics of different data sets or programs in certain situations based upon anomalies. In other words, I have no idea what I'm saying. No, Well, ven diagrams and spell that ve n vnn oh vnn. They're used this by some guy named vin Vin. Mister ven. His name is Alex Vin.

So heads through three circles one day and they all interacted. What it is? He like an animator like bugs bunny? Well, you want to know how to use a ven diagram? I can't wait to know this. Each circle represents one item that is being compared, item one and item two. For example, one circle contains the qual of these quantities and representations that are unique to item one. The other circle contains the qualities unique item two.

The area where the circles overlap contains qualities that have both item one and item two when presented in similar veins. Or in circumstances, and what they have in common and what they separate. You know what I'm saying. Huh, I'm drawing two circles. Now, do you see it? No, give me some sports. The world's coming to you know right now? The war in Israel. We can't get a speaker of the house. And she's

worried about drawing circles and diagrams. How to use them? Yeah? And by the way, I think I was absent that day at Cole Rain when they mentioned that math class. Thank goodness. How about it? How about this for children? A ven diagram for children is a visual organizer. It's a hula hoop made up of overlapping circles that explores the intricacies, relationships, and commonality between a different set of things. They are commonly used to organize

objects, numbers, and shapes and an understandable fashion. Now do you understand? No, Okay, now, who's that for? That's children? That's what shore. Yeah, like some kids get a figure? Know what that's what that means? Correct? Yeah? How about this? They are commonly to organize objects, numbers, theories, personalities, and anomalies and different shapes in a way that gives a rule or a title that has some relationship to the information. You know what I'm saying. Will He the student reportus a

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puts a student's mind in the correct reference. College football Tomorrow, Cincinnati Bearcats in Iowa State at Nippert Stadium eleven am right here on seven out at WLW five and one, Miami in Western Michigan, Missouri, and the Kentucky Wildcats, Ohio State and Purdue of course, the Bengals and Seahawks on Sunday. Downtown Cyclones open their preseason schedule tonight along the Big River, hosting the Indie Fuel College Basketball. Kansas Jayhawks have been picked to win the Big Twelve and

a preseason coaches poll. What about U see? Houston is second you see, followed by Texas, Baylor and TCU in the top five You see. West Miller's Bearcats have been picked to finish eleventh out of how many fourteen? So the Big the Big eight, the Big twelve is now fourteen? Correct? How many are in the Pac ten? Not many, because it's down to the Pac two. Actually, According to Till Next Year Cordea's article, boy Bye, Vice President Harris, there are four benefits of using ven diagrams.

Stupid, stupid, and stupid and stupid. Just when I think You've done the most stupid thing in the world, you're so worried about this. You ought to be worried about what's going on across the way and getting the Speaker of the House and all you know what break and loose around the country. The Republicans have proven they're going they're arguing, not good at ruling. Goodness great, they got to be on this show. Then. The ven

diagrams are used for both classification and comparative purposes. Don't limit to any one of them. What's comparative purchase? What do you say U? Number two? She says, ven diagrams don't have to be circles. There could be squares, oblongs, that could be paramesiums, that could be amiebas, that could be any description, as long as they interact and relate. Number three, you need to draw that you want to doing it amibas, Yes,

doing it with paramesiums. You understand now. And she also says ven diagrams don't have to be simple. Ain't that's the smartest thing she's ever said. I can see now you understand what that means. It sounds good. And you're a lawyer and a smart guy. Sometimes you say things like this to communicate how bright you are, right, communicating no information that has any real correct That's why, that's why she's speaking to people when she says, Okay,

how many people, I mean people were there. Do you think they understood it? Children could understand this? They can? How about this one? Give me a question? Was asking the vice president give me a real

life example of a ven diagram. She says a ven diagram could be used, for example, to compare two companies in their products within the same ministry by illustrating the products both companies offer where circles overlap, and the products that are exclusive to each company that they don't overlap, producing opportunities and possibly selling opportunities. You know what I'm saying. No, I don't know what I'm saying. What is that? What was? What mean? You sound smart

when you say it, right, that's the important thing. Yeah, let's break that sentence down. You sound smart when you say it correct, has no relevance to it. But the people people out there in the crowd going what in the world is going on? Shy hit it? I don't know what to tell you. Well, give me some more sports, that's all I here we go. Willith boy, she lives and dies through ven diagrams. Great, I guess he just draws. Well, that's good that kids

little kids can draw circles and squares. Baseball American League Championship Series begins Sunday night Willie at eight to fifteen of the Rangers and Astros. NLCS begins Monday night with Kyle Schwarber at a Middletown leading the Phillies up against those Arizona Diamondbacks. By the way, there's a website here that if you want to learn more, go to vendiagrams dot com. Do you want to learn more? Yeah? I did to work figure out. I can't figure out the last

five minutes of what you've been saying. Well, your life could be governed and ruled by ven diagrams. Like how you got your family life, you got your work life. Okay, Now I'm gonna make I just had I just made two circles. Get your family life, make out a circle. Okay. Now get your work life and make out a circle. Okay. But it's got to interact with your family life, okay. And get your friends and recreational activities. Give them two more circles and get those four balls

together like hula hoops. Get them all together. You got your family life, you got your work life, you got your friend life, and you got your recreational life, you might want to throw another your spiritual life. Put that down there and get all the diagrams going in circles with each other like that, eh, you know something like that. Okay, get that go, get them going. Ok you know what now, I know what she's I know what together. Okay, she'll be the president soon. So

we're gonna get ven diagrams, right boy, she says. Creating ven diagrams is a simple and easy way to organize your life. Learn the essentials of ven diagrams along with their long history, versatile purposes, and uses examples and symbols and steps to draw them. It takes seven minutes to draw personal venn diagrams daily down. No, it just took me about about two seconds to see there's another one. There's another one, and there's another one. How

about this one? Ben diagrams also called set diagrams or logic diagrams. They're widely used in mathematics, statistics, logic teaching, linguistics, and computer science and business. Many people first encounter a ven diagram in school as they study math or logic. Since ven diagrams to come part of the new maths curricula of the nineteen sixties. You got that. They're used to think through and

depict how items relate to easy within a particular universe or segment. Ben diagrams allows the segment to visually to visualize data in clear, powerful ways, and therefore commonly used in presentations and reports. You got that. Yeah, can't wait. That's why she's the vice resident, and that's why to Joe Biden say exactly where you are. That's why you'll be happy if you vote for

Lapping. There's Lapping. She's the vice president and we're sitting here. She's touring college campuses right now, teaching about diversity, equity and inclusion and ven diagrams. She has them all over the place. Every day of the week. She does it every day of the week. She has a ven diagram. Great, how did she pass the bar ex hand? I have no idea. Maybe she made a ven diagram and they passed A good point.

You know, if you if you say, maybe there was one circle for the lawyer, one circle for the client or the the myscreen to fee, one uh for thet reporter, one for the fee, and then one for the judge. You know, if you speak like this on a paper. You're gonna pass? Would you agree? Correct? You can put those words together, they can go. You don't want to probably what they did. They said that you passed. I don't know what the hell you're saying.

I don't either, but if it sounds pretty good, you're in. I don't want to act as if I don't understand what you're saying, and they're from an idiot and a fool. Therefore act as if I know what you're saying when I don't, because I don't want to imply the fact I can't understand what you're saying, which I don't. But if I acknowledge I don't know what you're saying, then I'm stupid. I don't want to be stupid, So I'm gonna pass you even though I have no idea what you're saying.

You know what I'm saying. Yes, at you repeat that again, that's pretty good. Well Lap, he got it. Well Lap's a smart man. Maybe he got Maybe he's got Vin diet ven diagrams for the Bengals. See what the Bengals youd have the offense, you have the defense, right, special teams, that's three and then put coaching coaching is four game

plans. Game plan, get the OC, the DC, get them all together in a ven diagram and say here we go and everybody else DJ Rieder, that's ten Cirin Logan Wilson, right, get them all together and then present that I'll have like fifty three circles. And as Mike Tyson said, you have a great game plan until you get punched in the mouth. Then you have no idea what the hell's going on? Correct segment, Give me out now. I hope I've educated you about ven diagrams. Willie and Otter

of ven diagrams that everybody have fun with him over the weekend. We'll have a test on Monday. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge report, hopefully not the Legion of Doom at them Bengals will win, go hude, I don't know. Segment. If they win this, they're off and running. Take a week off. But beat the forty to the Bengals. Oh, the forty nine ers a beat down? Yes, yes,

yes, yes, I don't know if they've ever beaten the forty. Remember the play that Sam Weiss drew up with about six seconds ago in the game to trick them. Well, they could have, and then they could have had a win in the regular season a few years ago out there, if Darnay Scott would have caught a third third down pass in the second half, the Bengals would have beaten them. It would have been ever beaten. It wasn't. It wasn't in the super Bowl, but it was the regular season.

I'm gonna say, at a shock and disbelief, I'm gonna draw some ven diagrams on the Bengals. I'll do that and I'll be good to go. Okay, let's continue once again segment. Maybe Jason Williams will be drawing ven diagrams, I think. So, let's continue with more two fifty five Home of Your Bengals. By the way, on Monday afternoon, I'm gonna have on Sharon Coolidge about the life and times of PG Sittingfeld. Maybe he should draw a ven diagram bags of cash on seven hundred W l W

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