Bill Cunningham -- 5/04/23

On our website. Unhappy that's the happy. Enter it now by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome to glorious unbelievable Thursday afternoon of the Tri State. What happened to our weather? Hopefully no more freezing temperatures. Read's off today recovering from a three and three West coast trip and back out of tomorrow at my ballpark The Great American to deal with the Chicago White Sox and Andrew Ben attendee. Serious issues coming up later. We have scheduled a man named

Leaper to talk about what's happening in downtown Cincinnati. Also have scheduled Mark Kacorian of the Center for Immigration Studies next Thursday. All hell's gonna break loose. You think it's bad on the border, now wait till Thursday next week. But until then, a story that's captivated the Tri State in the sense is a story of a monkey bar and grill. First of all, a couple

of nights ago, Brian Hamrick's done great reporting from the scene. There was a fire that got to temperatures up to about a thousand degrees and the monkey bar and grill had some damage, and we pray to God the owner can get it back in shape in the next few days. Had on yesterday David Young. He frequents the Monkey Bar and Grill. But we want to give some history and the Monkey Bar and Grill to talk about the life and times of Sam the Chimp. And no one knows more about chimpanzees more than Brian

Hemrick of Channel five and Brian Henry. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian Henrick, how are you. I'm good, Thank again, Cunningham. Let's go back in time. I can recall I got some serious trouble early on in my radio career and I raised some money for Sam the Chimp in order to have quality cigars. And there was a guy I forget. I forget the guy's full name, and I know his first name was Kenny, and Kenny had a bar and grill in the present location of the

Monkey Bar and Grill and Kenny the bar. He had a chip there named Sam, and he was giving cigars and given some cigarettes and some bear and at times sat at the end of the bar drinking and people would come in, and some media coverage occurred, and all of a sudden, the left wing activists are unhappy with Sam being treated in such a horrible way. Well, first of all, tell the story of what happened a couple of nights ago and monkeys at bar and grill, and they did great reporting inside that

room. What happened to Sam's old home, Well, there was a pretty good sized fire in there. They're still trying to figure out exactly what caused it, but it caught in the kitchen, and so then because of this play, the entire play is a really old building built in like eighteen forty one, but it is almost like the walls are all concrete, thick concrete. It's like the Alamo in there. And the thing is there are some flammable mat cereals and then inside that kitchen, which is pretty new they just

put in, it caught fire. And it didn't spread though, like a normal fires spread and they'll put a hole in the roof and it'll burn up. This just stayed in that one room and the fire turned and it got hotter and hotter, and they said it was a thousand degrees in that room. But fortunately, I mean, that's that's enough to scorchard brananas, that's for sure. But it didn't thread. That was the fortunate thing about it.

So there's soot all through the plate. They think they can get in there with some power washers, get the soot knocked down, clean up what was burned. It's gonna take a long time to get that kitchen back, but they're hoping in the next couple of weeks they can get in there and reopen and get They used to have food trucks drive in there, and that's what they're gonna do again. They're gonna have these food trucks drive in and they'll have the bar, you have the outdoor. It'll be some of the

indoor I think pretty quickly accessible. But it's a it's a mess there at the bar with so much history. Well it does, and the history it was like eighteen forty one when I think President to Harrison for Ohio was elected when that thing. Talk a little bit about the history of that facility, because it used to be I'm thinking about the Erie Canal, I'm thinking about the railroad, I'm thinking about maybe halfway house for runaway slaves. A little

bit of the history of the monkey Bar and grill. Well, you know again, it was built in eighteen forty one and it served it was a hotel to begin with, and it served the railroad that went up and down there, which is now the Loved One Trail, which is kind of interesting because you know, now it is it's still that same right of way,

that trail that keeps this place alive. It's basically always been dependent on that traffic that's brought through that trail, when when it was a train, it was train traffic, and now it's foot traffic and bikes and people going up and down there, so a lot of people come in and it's still got

that relationship. You know. Back in I think it was eighteen sixty one, Lincoln had given a speech down in Cincinnati and then he got on the train at what's now Sawyer Point and took that line, went right by the monkey bar and grill. It was I think, you know, I think it was a hotel then when he went through, but and then just kept

up to Zenia. I think. So it's got a lot of history in it, and part of the history is this, you know, I not exactly sure what year Sam the Chimp showed up, but he showed up there, probably in the late seventies or eighties. He was there for about twenty years and people would come in and he had his own off to the side if you're you know, kind of facing the parking lot area, the monkey bar and grill. It was off to the left and the kind of structures

old there. That was his cage. But it's it's like bricked up and different now. But he had this cage. He was indoors and then he can go up and be outdoors if he wanted to be. But people give him beer and cigarettes. And then the activists got involved and said, you know, he can't do that to a chimp, and so they moved him out. I think they took him to Ohio State. I think the guy's name was Kenny Harris, was the owner of that bar and grilling. He

ended up going to fighting us all in court. It was criminal charges and I'm naven sure how it turned out, but he ended up he was in trouble over the whole thing, and they did have to give the monkey up, and they or the chimp and sent him up and I think he may have either he lived these days out there at Columbus or somebody said maybe he went down to Florida at some point. I'm not sure how how it ended for Sam, but they even tried to bring in a female kept for him.

At one time. They brought the temp to the trial. The female temp I think was Susy, and they had her there for a while. So yeah, anyway, it's a colorful path. Well, he was Sam. Sam was living life. He was there for many years. And the animal rights activists weren't really organized in the seventies and early eighties, but they got to organize and they got rid of all the elephants in downtown. You can't have elephants anymore in the zoo. They were in the circus. They

were mad about the elephants. But the owner, well Harris Kenny, was charged with cruel to the animals, and one of the character witnesses was susan Or. I thought it was rather attractive female chimp, and that was again used as evidence by the animal rights activists that's old Sam wasn't living the kind of life that the chimp should live. They wanted him out in the woods or somewhere, and so the owner was charged with cruel to the animals,

which would have carried time in jail. And of course I became a big issue. I can vaguely recall putting together some money for a defense team to make sure that Kenny Harris wasn't convicted. And the trial was hilarious because it was hilarious and so, you know, I think less gaines and I offered our services. But we got some local counsel involved and Harris was found not

guilty. But somehow the civil authorities got involved. They started suing Kenny for cruel of the animals, and they had some tape video of Sam sitting at the end of the bar with a cigar, drinking a beer and he'd be let out of his cage on a regular basis and they customers come in and giving bananas and oranges and let us and Sam appeared to be a happy chip. But bringing in the consort Susy was the bridge too far, so he ended up in Ohio State and then civil lawsuits were filed to get Sam out

of Ohio State for research purposes. Sam liked his life in the bar and people got all pissed off. Yeah, yeah, it fired people up back in the day. And you know, it's a I don't know, it'd be it'd probably he probably wouldn't be there twenty years now before there would be someone else in there, you know, kind of looking at the situation. I don't think it would last very long. But you know, back in those days, there used to be you know, there used to be that

kind of thing. You know, you would see stuff. I mean, people would keep animals like that. Well, they can still keep tigers. And you know when we have this guy up in Zenia a few years ago, had all these tigers and lions and the memory set them all loose and it was a mess. But there are still people to keep these exotic animals. And uh, you know, but you certainly I think you had him at a bar or as part of your your business. People had come down

on that pretty quick these days. Well, the owner, Kenny Harris, won Samon and a poker game and h the guy couldn't hey off, so he took Sam. And once he got Sam in his bar I think it was called the train Stop in something like that, and he became such a draw for customers. I went there several times to say hi to Sam, petted him a little bit. You know, Chimps can be very vicious animals and angry chimp they want to eat your face and your genitals, and that's

a bad start to a fight. But but Sam wasn't like that at all. Sam was a good chimp. Yeah, yeah, we had name several years ago. The woman had her face chewed off by like her friends pet chimp and it was one of the first face trains plants they ever did on this woman. I believe she's so she's blind, but yeah, that that chimp went crazy on her. Well, you can't have a crazy chimp in a bar that's drunk. But that, I mean, people are different and

chimps are different. I mean some human beings commit crime, most do not. And Sam was a happy chimp. I mean he wasn't violent at all. And the more beer he drank, he was looking at Susie. Well, yeah those were you know, we had video from back in the day. Apparently at some point we had video and he would like the cigarette himself. He had a cigarette he had give him alightry he just lighted up himself like you know, it's like it's not my first radio, I know how

to do this. Well, I'm at Sam wore a hat too. At some point he made it to Florida. If memories correct, he went to Ohio state lawsuits are filed to keep him out of the bar. Liquor Control got involved and said, well your license. They went after Kenny because you know, there's no authority to have a chimp in a bar. But he said, there's no says you can't do it, no reason you can do it. Then the health department got involved. You had alcohol, tobacco,

and firearms get involved. And so after a while the owner couldn't put up with all the lawsuits and he was making money. Hen over fist off as Sam. But he got to Ohio State and at some point in his retirement years, like so many others, Uh, Sam and Sam and Susie ended up together somewhere in the Tampa area and uh we lost track of them there where they were. Well, at least they didn't uh you know, use them for research. You know they had those. Uh they had those.

Uh. I can't rememberance they were apes or orangutangs, may have been chimps. Uh years ago. I think it was out at the University of Oklahoma, and they were sign language and they could they could communicate, and um, they had them, and then they determined that they shouldn't they shouldn't be under those circumstances. They took them, and these temps that could actually communicate with people by seign language. I think they ended up in some research facility

and actually did research on one of them. Uh yeah, And so you know, sometimes the best intentions, it ends up in a in the worst situation, you know. I think people I've always wondered about sometimes there's like, oh, you can't have this animal. Uh the animals. Uh, it's it's crawling unusual to have this animal. And then so we're gonna kill it. So it's not being treated unusual. It's like there should be some medium ground in there somewhere that is not death or you're treating it bad.

I see why they you know, it's not natural for us, you know, a chip to be smoking a cigarette and wearing a hat and drinking beer. I got it, but but you would think, you know, And unfortunately, in Sam's case, they didn't. They didn't come to that. But I've seen a lot of cases where it does. They take the animal and it's like, yeah, we had to put him down because it's being treated truly, I'm like, what's more, crowl put the animal down?

You know, by every every objective, Sam lot of good life. He stayed there for many years, and when the authorities got involved, they kept looking for reasons to get to get Sam the hell out of the of the bar and the Monkey Bar and the spirit of Sam and Susie I think still live and I hope this guy can recover now. Lastly, we spoke briefly about what happened in reality, which is in Price Hill. Forty four year old Brandy laws lawless. That's a bad name for a woman. Lawless.

She was shot last night and Price Hill, and I guess Zachary Barnhorst was picked up. What do we know about that, if anything at this point on Thursday afternoon. Oh yeah, police have been very tight lipped about that. They you know, they've just released it. You know, she was

the victim. He is apparently going to be charged in connection with her death, but they haven't said anything about the relationship, How did they know each other, what was was circumstances around that, How did he come to you know, how did it come to a situation where he'd be charged in the case. They've said nothing about any of that. So, yeah, it's still a mystery as to how that happened or why that all unfolded. The way it did well, maybe by tonight you can track it down. But

uh, I never thought i'd hear about Sam the Chimp again. But once again the monkey bar and grills back in the news. I've been there. I was there a couple times when Sam was still around. I had to see it for myself. It was it was unbelievable scene. I mean, when Sam was drinking bear and it's the spirit of the chimp is loos large in that in that bar. I mean there's you know, there's all kinds of pictures, there's paintings, there's painting to him with a cigarette. There's

paintings, um there are. Now they got a big grass monkey. He got that monkey and it sits on the end of the bar. Now it's a about life size chimp. Uh. And they have that in there, and of course the name the monkey bar. Probably people come in now don't even realize, you know, they quite just figure well with the monkey bars in here one time, you know, don't realize that it's connected to an actual temp which is not a monkey. I guess I think a not a

monkey, but you know, people don't know the difference. So you know, there's bad chimps and there's good. Yeah, there's good chimps and bad chimps. There's good men and good bad. It doesn't make any difference. But this chimp would not eat your face off. He'd have a He'd only puffed a cigarette a little bit. I got him a couple of big cigars, and he seemed to enjoy those cigars. Don't he drink beer? He'd

liked the cigar and drink a beer. And all of a sudden, the health officials Alcohol's backroun firearms liquor control the authority, and suddenly with Kenny, it wasn't worth keeping him, and he was found not guilty. At trial, the jury came in laughing because and Sam and Susie were seen walking out of the back of the courtroom arm in arm. Sam and Susie went back to the bar. And now he ended up in a high state, and then he retired in Florida. Well, maybe Sam was just a highly evolved

chimp. You know, I mean, that's what people do. You know what I mean, I can drink at the bar. He's like, I'm not gonna run around with the rest of these knuckle draggers. I'm gonna I'm gonna get my act together. Look, these guys are, you know, supposed to be a higher form of of an eight or something. So he wasn't violent one A couple of Nazis and I'll catch up with him. Sam

was the smartest one at the bar I've met. He was. And the feminists were angry about Susie spending time with Sam, and they got involved, and you know it was cruel to Susie to be put in a cage with Sam. And I'm going, oh my god, Well, all right, we're too civilized for this. Let's kill the animals to keep them safe. We gotta kill him, all right, Well, good luck with this other story with uh with Zachary barn Horse twenty three years old, allegedly killing this

forty some year old woman named Brandy Lawless. And once again, give my best to all the all the chimps and the apes that you run into in your work, Brian, congratulations on doing a great job. Just say hi to all of them. We can't Can you imagine if a barn Or today did exactly the same thing, that wouldn't last one day? I mean yeah, I think this would be everywhere day. No, I think we'd be

up there that day and yeah, I think you're right. We're too civilized, all right, Brian Hemrick, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thanks again, mister Cunningham. Let's continue story of Sam and Susy Bill Cunningham News Radio. Seven hundred WW cards issue by Sutton Bank and Celtic Bank. Members have d IC trims and conditions supply. Are

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world. Dom scure my good eyes to all that is right. So if look for evil, you'll find it. If you look for goodness, you'll locate that too. Attitude is critically important as we proceeded with life. After one o'clock today will be Steve Leeper scheduled to be here from three CDC. Also Mark Kakorian of the Center for Immigration Studies about what's happening on our southern border. It's become a canard. The media wants to avert its eyes.

The media has not been given yet permission from someone to objectively cover what's happening on the southern border, and so the media will not go after an institution

or a circumstance or a person until given permission to do so. One can only imagine if a Republican had the same peccadillos, sins and crimes committed by Joe Biden and his family committed by a Republican with sixty one separate stars, which is suspicious activities reports starting about twelve years ago that we know about from the US Department of Treasury of millions and millions and millions of dollars transferred from

Russia, China and the Ukraine into the bank accounts of Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Jim Biden, and all the Bidens, Hallee Biden. They're all consultants through natural Gas interest and communists at China. Now, how's it possible that is sitting Vice president to wit the to wit, that is, Joe Biden could actually receive millions of dollars while he's in office from

interest in China, Russia and the Ukraine. How's that possible? Suspicious activity reports and there's no follow up, there's no investigation, but if some woman claims at some point in the nineteen nineties in a dressing room in a department store in Manhattan, that Donald Trump, as a private citizen, took a sexual advantage of a woman named Gene Carroll without specificity, is to the date, or the year, or the month, or no specificity, the country

will stop and litigate whether or not Donald Trump, thirty or thirty five years ago sexually accosted Gene Carroll in a dressing room in a department store in downtown Manhattan. How's it possible that were locked into this? I have no idea. At some point it has hoped that are so called mainstream media will actually follow stories based upon the quality of the story and not the person being accused

or the person being investigated. That would be interesting. You can find boxes and boxes a classified documents in the garage of Joe Biden there for weeks, months and years, and there's no interest. Media doesn't care. The Department of Justice, the FBI, they don't care. But if Donald Trump misshandle's

classified documents allegedly, it's a big national story. So I'm waiting for the day, at the time, in the moment when the mainstream media will be given permission to objectively cover persons equally, not based upon the political affiliations. That will be a wonderful time. Secondly, just heard Brian Hemrick. It's been many years, but I think it's indicative of the times in which we

live. When Sam the chimp was won in a poker game by Kenny Harris, who was the owner of a bar, and he didn't know what to do with Sam, so he took him to work with him, and he lived in that bar for many, many, many years, and things are going nicely until the authorities got involved. Animal rights activists are angry at Kenny for having a chimp in a bar. He would smoke a few cigarettes and never smoked. He liked lighting the cigarette or the cigar and drinking beer.

And you may recall every Lennel period, there are some going a beer diet and lose weight. Beer is healthy. And Sam would sit there and drink his beer and light his cigarettes and entertain the crowd. Now, there are some nasty chimps who want to eat someone's face off and attack their genitals, but that was not Sam. And I know that because I visited Sam. I was in the bar and the many lawyers wanted to get together to assist

Kenny Harris and keep doing what he's doing with Sam the chimp. But then when the publicity got out, the animal rights activists couldn't stand the fact that Sam was being kept at a bar, smoking cigarettes and drinking beer. The final straw is when Susy showed up, someone had a female chimp, and

the rest is history. The feminists got involved, and the animal rights activists got involved, Liquor control got involved, health department got involved, and Sam Sam was being besieged, and the owner, Kenny Harris, with demands that Sam be given away or go away. At one point, I'm kind of vague on the particulars Sam ended up at Ohio State. When that was discovered,

all hell broke loose many of the attorneys. At that point. I was chair of the Ohio State Bar Association Young Lawyer's Division, and I was on certain panels of the Bar Association. And when I try to raise the issue about Sam appeared to be a happy chimp. He wasn't doing much, wasn't attacking anyone. The worst thing he did was throw his pooh at customers. Now that's not a very healthy thing in the bar, but Sam would do his business and throw his pooh. Now that's a problem, but the

customers knew about it, and the customers didn't seem to mind. So over the months and year years, so I think I think Harris Kenny Harris was charged with a crime, probably cruelty to animals, and was was He was found not guilty. But at one point Sam had to leave the state ahead of the law, ended up in Florida, and Sam the chimp was lost to UH, to history. What happened to Susie, I'm not sure, but in order to save the chimp, you had to kill the chimp.

Much like the circus. How many times have you gone to the circus in town? And you go down to P. T. Barnum and Bailey Circus at the Coliseum now Heritage Bank Center, and animals would come in. It was a big deal. They would parade the elephants around downtown Cincinnati. They come off the train and big parades would take place. And I went to many of those functions. I enjoyed the circus. At one point I got into the ring and I did certain things there with the top hat on and

the whip in the chair and UH. But then the animal I Tis got involved and no more circus. And now those animals, I don't know what happened to them, but they're not around. But we've become too civilized to accept Sam the chimp and Susie and the quiet life that they wanted to lead, and they led it for years in that bar. It was like the swing line or something like that. And Abraham Lincoln went there in eighteen sixty one or sixty two and opened up in eighteen forty one during the presidency of

Harrison, who died quickly. He gave supposedly his address inaugural address without a top coat on it got cold, whatever it might be. And so we've become too So if we've become so civilized that the United States Navy is now, believe it or not, using drag queens to recruit new men and women to join the United States Navy, this story I heard Mike McConnell talking about it today, unbelievable. The critics are lamb basting the United States Navy over

the use of a drag queen influencer. You know, Dylan. Dylan mulvaney was also an influencer to help persuade new recruits to join the military, and because they're like fifteen thousand recruits short in the military. And I guess, I guess there is a presently a Navy personnel called Joshua Kelly, who's a yeoman, goes by the stage name Harpee Daniels. Harpee Daniels, who identifies as non binary, was a digital ambassador in the Navy's new pilot program to

attract new recruits. So this is a Navy person, a yeoman who is a drag queen, presently in the Navy. And what occurs is that they put her in her regular drag outfit in order to encourage men and women to join the United States Navy. It used to be a few good men, the one, the proud, the money, whatever it might be, not anymore. After Dylan mulvaney, all bets are off. The marketing continues. I'm looking at a picture here of the actual person. The yeoman in uniform

appears to be just a regular Navy guy. Then I look to the right and in drag looks to me like a woman. But I'm not sure. And one might say that this will be yes is destroying the military. Mike McConnell made the point this morning, which I thought was wise. Who are you trying to attract to the service? I would think that if China and Russia is looking at this thinking about the ferocity of American military, they might

be thinking, what in the hell is going on? And instead of a strong, seafaring military force, Biden wants to recruit transsexuals, non binaries, and drag queens to operate planes and ships in the military. So I don't know what's gonna come with this one. We're gonna see. It's probably not good, but we're gonna see exactly what occurs now. Lastly, this story

broke last night. There's outrage this is all fake outrage, by the way, by the media and by a left wingers about the mounting anger over the death of a homeless, mentally ill disturbed person who works, so to speak, on the subway system in New York City. This person imitates Michael Jackson and does a routine on subway cars. As you're trapped there, and this person does the Michael Jackson impersonations and if you don't give money, what you

must do after he sings Billy Jean a few bars of Billy Jean. Then things get ugly. So what happened a couple of nights ago And fella's name is Jordan Neely, thirty years old, a homeless, mentally ill person who's by the way, has been arrested forty times forty times mentally ill, lives on the subway, urinates, defecates, and perspirates on the subway, and

I guess. At two o'clock yesterday afternoon, the subway was somewhat packed and mister Neely did his Michael Jackson impersonation with the silver glove doing the moonwalk on a subway carring between stops, and at some point mister Neely threw down his cape to receive the money from individuals that were being coursed into pay it.

He was acting erratically, yelled and through garbage at commuters, spit on young children, and a twenty four year old United States marine in between deployments on video got into a verbal incident with mister Neelie telling him you can't do that, and the marine, who lives on Long Island and is currently between deployments, eventually was pushed by mister neelye and the marine began to constrain the Michael Jackson mentally ill criminal impersonator for doing what he was doing, and he applied

too much force to his neck, and it appears that mister Neelie died at the hands of this US Marine. Neelie fell unconscious on the train as the marine held him and the chokehold conductor called for police. First responders arrived and now there's a gofund me page created now for Neelie's family that's raised about a thousand dollars. According to other homeless and mentally ill, he was a very good Michael Jackson impersonator. He's the king of pop garnishing thousands of US.

It was a raw talent, but also a schizophrenic who lived on the subway would throw pooh at commuters and once he did his act, if Elliott and others did not calf up a bunch of money, he would kick you, spit on you, call you rotten, filthy names. And so US marine said, this cannot happen. He kind of stands up. One thing leads to the other. The marine grabs him by a chokehold, and the Michael Jackson impersonator is now dead. According ny PD records, he did a long

mental health history. He lives on the subway, and he's been arrested at least forty times, and he's got numerous warrants out for his arrest, and the police simply leave him alone at this point. So you take what's happening on subways New York City, by the way, the radical left now once the US Marine charged with murder, and can all but assure you it will happen sometime today, tomar he will be charged with murder for killing this person.

And secondly, put that along with what's going on with recruitment in the Navy. They consider a transsexual non binary a Navy yeomen as an appropriate role model. Throw in the King of Beers using Dylan mulvaney to promote their products. All I can say is, what in the hell is going on around here? Let's continue the blind becomes available, which it never does. We have Raphael calling into many others five one, three, seven, four,

nine, seven thousand. I don't mean to say that the Michael Jackson impersonator should be killed for what he did, but I have sympathy and empathy for a US Marine trying to defend the safety and security of women and children on a subway car that's not good. On the other hand, AOC it was in her district, it happening in Manhattan is now screaming and hollering and shouting for the murder arrest of the United States Marine who's only twenty three years old.

Wow. Sign of the times. Let's you and I continue with more later on. We have Mark Kerkorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, also later on as Steve Leeper of three c DC. He's the man that makes downtown Cincinnati happened, trollh fifty five the home of no non bronary individuals to my knowledge, and no Michael Jackson impersonators living homeless on a subway car throwing poo at the writers on news radio seven hundred WW. A good day starts

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of thousands will rush the border once again. And for many, many years, we've discussed this matter with Marker Korean of the Center for Immigration Studies, and it comes down to the fact that maybe we're at that juncture in which the American people will finally throw up their hands and say we can't take it.

You may know that the mayor of New York City, Mayor Adams and others are blaming who he calls the white governor of Texas in Florida for sending too many legal aliens into a New York City, in Chicago and elsewhere.

But whether it's the crimes being committed, the collapse of our public education system, the collapse of public health, whatever the issue might be, that we're in serious trouble and we keep saying that, but I don't see a lot changing between now and Thursday, of course, and over the next couple of

years. Anyway, Marca Corey is what the Center for Immigration Studies and Mark welcome again into Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, can you tell the American people as to why May eleventh is one of those critical parts of the immigration puzzle and what's going to happen on May eleventh? If anything, what's going to happen or what should do the schedule expected to happen. Is

that something that in shorthand they call Title forty two will be ended. What that is is a COVID related measure that, for public health reasons allowed the border patrol to just bounce illegal aliens it caught back across the border. No hearings, no asylum, no nothing. That's going to end on May eleventh because the public health emergency has ended. The White House has decided that. I mean, I thought it ended a long time ago, but anyway,

legally speaking, it's going to end. Then. What that means is all these illegal aliens that have been especially even under Biden, some of the single men have been bounced back across the border under Trump it was everybody. But

they're not going to be sent back. They're going to be able to make phony asylum claims, and they're going to end up in the country, and this administration is almost certainly just going to let them go, so that the real high, ridiculously high levels of illegal immigration that we have now at the border because of Biden are almost certainly going to get even higher after May eleventh.

And I would assume over the last several months those who were told okay, Title forty two is in effect, you're going back south, they didn't go back to Nicaragua, they didn't go back to Uganda, they didn't go back to South Korea or China. They're somewhere in northern Mexico kind of waiting for May eleventh. And so everyone that has been expelled is getting ready to go across the border because Title forty two doesn't apply anymore. Does that make

sense, Absolutely, That's what's what's happened. Some people just try over and over again because they just kept bouncing them back, and they figure out eventually they'll get through. Other people, like you say, are sort of biding their time waiting for May eleventh, so that then they can cross the border,

turn themselves in and be let go. And that's why there are tens of thousands of people from all over the world pooling up in the cities of northern Mexico in Wuarez, which is opposite Opasso, and Tijuana in Matamoros, and Raynosa down opposite South Texas. They're just waiting for, you know, it's kind of like the you know, the a race where they fire the

starting gun. That's kind of what they're waiting for. And in fact, some people are jumping the gun, as it were, and the numbers at the border are already increasing compare even above the already high numbers they had like a month ago. So in other words, some people are taking the administrations take rhetoric about how they're really going to be tough starting May eleven. They're taking that seriously. In this day, well, let's get in now before

these supposed tough measures happen. Then the tough measures aren't going to be real, so that even more people will get in. It's ridiculous. I recently saw you with Neil Cavuto on Fox News discussed this issue. Two things. Recently, I watched some of the morning talk shows about well, fifteen hundred soldiers are going to go to the southern border, and there's a deal deal that we've struck with Mexico about accepting some back. Can you explain those two

things. The soldiers thing is just PR. The other administrations have done this, and part of it was PR. But they can in fact help. They don't arrest people. They help the border patrol basically in a support role. They you know, have binoculars and they do paperwork, and they drive trucks and what have you. That's all to the good. If the border patrol is actually allowed to keep illegal as out of the country, the soldiers

or National guardsman whatever it can back them up, can help them. Under this administration, the border patrol is not allowed to keep people out of the country. They have been turned into the Walmart greaders of the United States. It's actually worse than just a straight PR stunt. It actually is going to facilitate the Biden administration's erasure of the border. And so the advertised plan is We're going to get tough. Fifteen hundred soldiers are going to the southern border

in essence, and I'll make it easier to come into the country. Yeah, basically, and you know faster, they'll process people. Faster is what it amounts to. And process just means they wave them into the country, You give them a piece of paper and say, Okay, in twenty thirty three, show up to immigration court. I mean literally, it's that's in New York. The dates for the hearings that people are getting is twenty thirty

three. It's absurd and it's unsustainable. Explained the situation a few years ago when Trump was in charge. Why would it Why was it different then and could have been different now? What was in existence under President Trump that did

not allow this to occur. One of the big things that dissuaded people from doing the illegals from doing what they're doing was something called Remain in Mexico And what that was was a policy where illegal immigrant crosses a border, they say the magic words of asylum that they've been coached to say by their smugglers and by the activists in the United States. But instead of being let go, which is what this administration was doing, they were sent back across the border

into Mexico to wait for their hearing dates. Oh and once that started to happen, people were like heck, I'm not going to do this. I didn't come here to wait in Warez, you know for two years from my hearing I want to be let go into the United States. So what it did is it changed people's calculation on what they were doing, and the numbers plummeted almost immediately. There's a lot more that had to be done. Even under Trump. It wasn't totally fixed, but it was stabilized. This administration

came in and knowingly broke the whole thing. Now they're surprised that it's a complete disaster. The other issue being talked about by the radical leftists inside this great country of ours is that somehow there'll be a deal with Mexico, with the President of Mexico, We're going to pay him some money and he's going to take care of those we send back. Is that a bunch of bs? Well, I mean, there's something to it, I think, but we don't know how many people are they going to take back? What?

People from what countries? Because Mexico often says, yeah, we'll only take people back if they're from Spanish speaking countries. We don't want any Haitians or you know, people from Uzbekistan or whatever, and you know how long is that going to last? So there's something to it. But again, it's like sending the soldiers. If this Mexico policy we're part of a broader policy like under Trump, to enforce the border and stop illegal immigration, it would

be fine. The problem is that this administration does not want to stop this flow of people. They just want to accommodate it so it doesn't create bad news pictures and news coverage that hurts them politically. They don't want to stop the flow. They don't think they have the right to say no to anybody who wants to move here. I mean, it's a moral position on their

part. They think anybody who wants to come here should be allowed in, and the American people have no right to say no. That's what this administration believes. I'm reading a column written or Immigration Studies by Andrew Arthur. I can recall a few days ago Jean Pierre Karain. Jean Pierre said that illegal immigration is down nine thanks to Joe Biden. So the Presidential Press Secretary stands in front of the American people with the emblem of the executive branch of the

US government and says ninety percent of immigration is down under Joe Biden. Why is that? I mean, I like, I like to think it's a mistake, but it's an obvious lie. What was the basis for those comments of the Press secretary, She honestly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. What that was about was that the number of Venezuelan illegal aliens dropped from December to January because of this new policy the administration announced to basically let them illegally.

They said, don't cross the border illegally. We'll let you in, which is illegal, but the illegality, the lawbreaking will be on us, the administration, not you line up, make a reservation online and we'll just wave you into the country and don't worry about it. So venez Whalen's very sensibly said okay, well, well let's wait and see and see how it

goes. So the numbers dropped, the really did not the total numbers, just the numbers of those Venezuelans. Of course, now they're just going right back up because the administrations letting people in regardless whether they made a reservation or not. So it was a short term drop in one part of the illegal population, and she being basically on the same intellectual level as your boss turned that into illegal immigration. Drop. It's just it's unbelievable the quality of the

people who are running our government. You know, Marker Corey and you and I have done this for many, many years, and you've sounded the alarm for a long time. Are we finally at the point where we've given up on the southern border? Are we finally have you washed your hands in the sense that you write great stuff. I'm looking at your website, No migrant

left behind. DHS's planned to empty Latin America. Biden to send more troops to the southwest border Texas, Slow's cross border truck for Metamoris fact check down. At some point, do you throw your hands up and say, we don't have a country, we don't ever border. Is it time to give up? Never? Ever, time to give up? Despair is a sin whether you believe, whether you're a believer or not, it's still a sin. And the fact is, we can fix this, we can control it.

It's just that we're, you know, taking a lot of damage until we get the political will to do something about it. And I gotta say, I mean, I'm not getting into politics here. But I think one of the reasons is that we got some progress under Trump was that he focused on this issue and actually got some stuff done. But one of the reasons we're in such bad shape is because so many people who hate Trump associate border control with him that they're actually saying, well, if he wants border control,

I want an open border. In other words, it's just an irrational thing. If Trump said take a shower, a lot of people would stop bathing. And so there's this weird, perverse dynamic in our politics now, and I'm not sure what to do about it, quite honestly. But no, we're not We're not given up. We're never given up. And I look at border patrol agents on the front line. They're cold, they're wet. Now summer's coming, they're gonna be brawling hot. You have tens of

thousands every day, and you have the opponent. You have the drug cartels, literally with drones flying over the southern border. They have snipers. There are bracelets on the arms of men and women as far as what country they came from and what they owe the drug cartels. Any sense of how much money, how big of an industry are the drug cartels bringing across the illegal

immigrants, how much money they're making, and the cost of humankind. The girls are thrown into human slavery, sexual slavery, the men become indentured servants, murders, rapes, robberies, any sense of the number of crimes committed on the southern border that we all know about and don't arrest anybody for any idea. How much money the drug cartels are making. This is obviously a multi billion dollar business. But it's an interesting thing that the drug cartels generally

don't do the smuggling themselves. What they do is they take a tax from the smugglers. Because on the Mexican side of the border, every inch is controlled by one or a different cartels. They have turf, so if you go through their turf, you need to pay them. And there's a analyst on there, Jason Jones. He's a former Texas State police guy. He says that some of these cartels, the drug cartels, are making more money off of the tax they take for smuggling illegals than from drugs. It's unbelievable.

I mean, it's that big. And this is because Biden has essentially issued an invitation to every person in the world to come across the border, say a few magic words about how they fear being returned and persecution and what have you, and they get let go into the United States. So you know, it's it's unbelievable how much money here there is here. And it's again, some of these cartels are making more money off the tacks that they

levy on illegal smuggling am aliens then on drugs themselves. And it's a lot safer crime to be involved in because you know the cops aren't going to go after you in the same way, especially in Mexico. So this is a serious problem. It's never going to go away altogether. But Biden is the best friend these smuggling organizations and cartels have ever had. Long term is the goal. I assume there must be some smart Democrats in charge somewhere that assume

I assume they they intend to logical consequences of their behavior. I would assume they're smart Democrats somewhere in Washington that says we want this because of politics,

which means if you'd turn Texas blue, it's over. I can't imagine the other blue states like California, Illinois, New York State, Rhode Island, Massachusetts suddenly become a constitutional republic, and they're thinking, can we assume the goal in the next five to ten to twenty years as have the country thoroughly left wing, democratic and blue, with millions of more human beings being supported

by the government voting democratic. Is that the logical consequence? I think that's a consequence, But I actually don't think that the people running immigration in this administration are thinking in those terms. They're fine with that, there's no question about it, but the this is an ideological issue for them. They do not believe the American people have the right to enforce their border against the illegal aliens. They just think it's like Jim Crow, and so they see themselves

as heroic in subverting the law because they consider it an unjust law. And they're all too young to have been involved in the actual civil rights movement, so they see this as a moral crusade to abolish immigration controls. So how do you you know you can only defeat that. There's there's no compromise, that no deal you can cut with people who view it that way. You

and my point is that it's almost better. It would be almost better if it were purely political and cynical, because then you can, you know, it's easier to deal with cynical enemies, you can cut a deal with them. These guys aren't cynical, they're true believers. They think borders are immoral, period. And you know, we can only remove those people from office. We can't cut a deal with them. Marcare core And we have about

thirty seconds remaining. Can you give me any hope? Center for Immigration Studies. You and I've done this for ten or fifteen years. Can you give me any hope? Yeah? I think. I think because Nixon's head of his Council Economic Advisors, Herbstein. He's the father of the actor Ben Stein. He said, if something can't continue forever, it won't. This cannot continue forever, and so it won't. The only question is how much damage

do we take until we reverse course? In six things, Center for Immigration Studies Cis dot orgon Marco Corean, I'm left with a little bit of hope. But thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Thank you. All right, let's continue. The line becomes available five one,

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get it on till I'm seventy or something like that. Loving you too seventy, that's Ed Sharon. I don't know Benjamin Crump's involved. You know it's a shakedown. I don't know. And Ed Sharon just said, you know what, I've spent eight years of my life spending millions of dollars in legal fees fending off this ridiculous claim and hopefully jury's ended. Right, What does he get? Where does he go to get respect and all that back? He never lost? What department does he get? Never lost it? Did

you ever lose respect for Ed Sharon? You know he is Yeah? First of all he needs a haircut. Well, that's true. He comb coma's head. He's got a commas a little goofy to me well on the like

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off today after that three and three road trip to the West Coast. They'll kick off a six game homestand of Marne with the first of three up against Andrew ben Attendee and company with a Chicago White Sox. Is he in town? Should I call him? I think they are because they just got done. They just won their first series of the year last night. Been a bad mother. They're ten and twenty one. Guy stakes, keep an eye

on this guy. Willie Blake Dunn and the Dayton Dragons outfielder Midwest League high A Player of the Month hit three eighty six slugging percentage of seven oh two, five homers, eight rbies. I had eating it read yet. Thomas Moore's Michael Grogan, the Pride of Elder the Home of Brian Combs is the Mid South Conference pitcher of the year nine and one eighty eight strikeouts in nineteen walks David Bell, there's your fifth starter right there. We don't have a

fifth starter. We don't have a fourth starter. When ascraft they drink, I think they're drinking a We got a shot and go past those three guys. You got no shot. Let's see echl hockey. Our beloved Cyclones open up the Central Division Finals tomorrow night, hosting the Toledo Walleye Downtown. Xavier's Emma mcmiler is the for a third straight time as the Big East Golfer of

the Year. She can play her teammate Madison reem Snyder is the Big East Freshman of the Year, and Xavier's Brandon Genko and assistant David Pats are the Big East coaching staff of the Year in golf. How about that? About that Savior's pretty good in golf? Reads back out of tomorrow night? Of course? How about FC? I talked to FC hosts DC United Saturday night at seven. I called Jeff Birning. You might remember yesterday about MESSI Yeah, did he call you back? Yes? Oh from Rehad Saudi Arabia?

What oh Ronaldo something golf? Ronaldo? They're getting written MESSI could you see those two guys coming here, signed, sealed and delivered. They'd have to build a half million seats stadium for those two. I'm yours, Barbara Lewis Style signed, sealed and delivered on yours. Let's see what else is going on. I'm just saying I shouldn't say that publicly, but there's a chance

Ronaldo and Messi may come and play for FC. Alabama baseball coach Brad Brad Bohannan has fired today, five days after suspicious wagering was detected the Crimson Tides game against LSU. Reports are the bets were made here in Cincinnati? What thank you? Did you make any bets? Suspicious activity took place last Friday at the sports book at Great American Ballpark. What According to the Ohio Casino Control Commission, what thank you? Matt Schuler's in charge, two bets on

the Tigers to win by unidentified customer. How much didn't can't say so? Somebody at my ballpark had some inside dope on a baseball game between Alabama Rolled tied and Lshoe Bingo, and somehow inside dope and a bet was made inside the Great American Ballpark. They used to they used to have a show called the Dugout Dope, remember that years ago? How about this Williamsburg High School? Of course we went out there to Mattie struck us out for yourself.

Well that's true. You hit one, that's right, you hit one door? Yeah? Uh double no headers. Let's go with the ladies first a listen viral. A freshman william East Clinton beat as Williamsburg over East Clinton the other day for nothing, sixteen strikeouts and a no hitter. Hey, what thank you baseball? Timmy Carver, a junior no hits East Clinton. As Williamsburg beat East Clinton ten nothing with eleven case. So the boys and girls

and East Clinton had some problems their boyfriend and girlfriend. Wow, they didn't know about each other's no hitters, apparently until they got home and they said, well, how many hits did you allow? None? How many did you allow none? What happened to Mattie? Where is she? I think she? I think she goes if she was going to Moorhead State University, I think playing for them. H Andrew ben attended, of course, Well, he comes to town this weekend for the first time since twenty seventeen with

a Boston Red Sox. He went one for nine with four bis in that Red Series in twenty seventeen. Here remember some of these names that he faced. Robert Stevenson, Jackson Stevens, Big sal Romano a mere I'll take him on myself, Garrett, he's probably out of baseball. Luke Farrelton, uh Ariel Hernandez and Rice Elly Glaciers. What are those guys? I think Stevenson. I think Stevenson's with the Pirates. I thought he was playing. He

just pitched for the somebody a hot beer, Garrett. I don't know, well he's he's in in Red's lore because he took on the Pirates at night in that fight. He charged the dugout. Yeah, he wanted the dugout. I don't know where Big sal Romano is. Rice Elly Glaciers is uh. I think he's with the Angels on the d L or I mean the I L. Sorry, not the DL anymore. It's it's the injured list. We'll see what happens with that. I don't know what to tell you,

But how about this? Also, there's no better company would be alongside the great Babe Ruth. Shoey Otani notched his five hundredth major League strikeout Wednesday, and the Angels six to four win over the Cardinals thirteen case or Otani across five innings. That means a twenty eight year old is now joined Hall of Famer. Babe Ruth is one of two players in history at baseball to total one hundred plus home runs and five hundred or more strikeouts, and the

Cardinals stink they were in last place at ten and twenty one. Couldn't happen to a better team, Bengo. People are screaming for everybody in that Cardinal organize. How many they probably want Big Yaddi and Big Al to come back. How many years have we watched the Steelers beat up on the Bengals, the Cardinals beat up on the Reds Merciless. It's constant, correct, So if those franchises go down, it's a good day. Bengo had their glory,

Big Al at seven hundred bag gallon. Where's Yaddi when you need him? Gone? Gone with the win? Yeah? I think he managed Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic. I'm looking at this. American students fail Civics and history classes. How about this one? Seventy five percent of eighth graders in American public schools cannot identify the three branches of government. By the way, what are the three branches of government? Um? Executive, judicial,

and legislation? Are you good? Could not identify? Sorry? How many states are there? Fifty? You're doing pretty good? Yeah? Now, what happened in nineteen but somebody, I think the president once said it was fifty one or fifty two to fifty eight. We must have taken over Canada for some reason. Who invaded America on December seventh, nineteen forty one Japan? The majority did not know that. Now, great, give me three

of the five constitutional rights and the First Amendment. Just three of the five First Amendment. Great, majority couldn't answer that question. Freedom of speech bingo U, freedom of religion bingo, and guns. No, that's number. That's what I mean. First Amendment. Let's see. Come on, be an eighth grader got two? Come on, can't handle the truth? Thank you? Now you failed out one? Well, that's not bad. Two out of three ain't bad. Who did America oppose in the Revolutionary the other

one? Well, you got the freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of Okay, why didn't I say freedom of press? That was stupid. That was stupid. Man. Now, who did America fight in the Revolutionary War Britain? You're doing better than people think. Yeah, most eighth graders have no clue, they're stupid. Then, well, if you don't know how many states there are, Another question was how many senators are there in the US Senate. They had to take the whole bunch of them and

throw them out and bring some new in. How many are there fifty? No? No, wait a minute, yeah, no, hundred that's it. That's right, that's right. And how many members of the House of Representative? What are you doing this? Because is there an eight eighth grade anymore? Well? How many? Okay? What are they? Thirty five? Okay, everybody's what I was gonna say. I'm gonna say four and thirty two, but I know that. And they also ask who is the

governor of your state? The great eighty two percent couldn't have identified? What? Who's the governor of your state? The great Mike de Wine. Okay here, see you're doing better than people think. So and we got the uh Houston's a lieutenant governor just years in Kentucky. That's right. Yeah. So you're saying right now, you you would pass that quiz? Yeah? I probably maybe not, I don't know, but you would have come close. I got one minute, I have missed one. Well you got one

of them. I missed two out of what six speech assembly? Well, you would have got eighty three percent, you know five six is eighty three and a third percent. That'd get me in the national honor. So the average score is on these questions and have no idea. That's said, they have no idea. Who that mean? Does anybody go to class anymore? No? Remote? Another one? How about this one? Twenty four percent knew the answer to this question. Okay, who was the first president of

the United States? That would be a gee Washington being all right, here you go. And only forty percent could identify Joe Biden is the president. Sixty percent didn't know the president. Oh boy, we're really in trouble now, segment, get me out of the studition. Approbably, have Steve Leeper coming up. Steve Leaper of three c DC, in charge of the redevelopment of Cincinnati Otard. Yeah, Steve Leaper, will he on this day? On May the fourth, we say happy birthday to the one and only former

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You're not as stupid as people think. Thank you. Let's continue with more. Steve Leeper next on news radio seven hundred WW. It's your Center Hotel to take the place of the Millennial Hotel, and it looks beautiful. The lead contractor is Cincinai based firm, but the man in charge, the CEO, is Steve Leaper, the CEO of three c DC, and Steve

Leaper, welcome again and the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve, first of all, can you tell the American people before we get to the specifics of this new Millennium Hotel, what is three CDC For those like Elliot and others may have no idea what you're talking about. Thanks still, thanks for having me. Well, three CDCAT the name is three CS Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation and we've been around for about nineteen years or so and our full focus

is to reinvest and redeveloped the Central Business District and over the line. And that's what we've been doing, and this is we're about a one point seven billion dollars later. This is where we are, and we still have more work to do, obviously with the convention center, but it's the change you've seen downtown and over the line is really as a result of our great investment

by our city and our corporate leaders. So twenty years ago, I can recall walking from Central Parkway up celebrity Charlie Lucan and I and it was almost like walking through parts of downtown Portland, Oregon. It wasn't good. And can you be I love the history of our city. Can you kind of tell what was the spark that caused proctoring god fifth Third Bank, West Jordan Southern. The powers that be got together, but you in charge, what was the spark that said we can't have this? I think well it was

at the time it was you know, Mayor Charlie Mukan. As you walked up the street, he saw what the challenges were. A lot of it, quite frankly, unfortunately, was a result of the young man Timothy Thomas losing his life and the civil unrest has followed, you know, over the rhyme to be honest with you had already really begun to decline. That sort

of was the last straw. And the not only was it, you know, a sort of disinvestment that had gone on, but as you know, the public safety issues were pretty severe, and the corporate leaders were concerned only about that deterioration and over the rhyme, but the bleeding over into the Central Business District in the shuttle of disinvestment that had begun there. So the Timothy Thomas so called riots. There was a line drawn in Central Parkway and said

you can't go past here parts of OTR. The property was worthless. You could have bought buildings there for a dollar or less, should simply take them. And then the powers that be in this town said we can't have this. Let's jump ahead now to the meeting on Tuesday. The Millennial Hotel was there for many years. At the end, it was a fleabag. It was awful. People didn't want to stay there, so you and others leveled it. It's now like a parking lot. Explain what's going to happen,

I think in about three or four more years. Explain the process of how we came to this point. Well, yeah, like parts of our city, like over the Rhine in parts of downtown. At one point in time, it was not something we should be proud of as a city, and we actually, quite frankly, we should be a bit of embarrassed by it. And right now if you look over at that convention center itself and the build or lack thereof around it surface parking lots, they can banalize buildings we

go down the list, you know, an outdated facility. It was decided by the city, in the county and others to really now focus on this whole district here. Now that's the bad news that it's sort of deteriorated and needs investment. The good news is two things. One is the public has control of the property that's needed to change it, which is a very important

actions that have occurred over the last couple of years. And then secondly, it's not like once we build it, we have to think about additional development that will follow. That additional development is already there and you see it in the you know, the redo of the former Macy's building where Rubies and other restaurateurs a new five iron golf. All that at street level is a block away, block and a half away from the district, so that will be

an attractive element to this. So the plan is Bill is to spend about two hundred million dollars renovating the convention Center, taking the former Millennium site which is due east of the building, and create a public space public posita that can be programmed in conjunction with a convention center. That's it's very common now these days that there's outdoor public space adjacent to a convention center, so you

can do indoor and outdoor activities. You saw that in Kansas City where they had the draft, where there was an outdoor space right next to a public assembly. So that's that two hundred million, and then the idea would be in that post space to the extend in the future that we would want to expand the convention center and exhibit space, we could do so seamlessly without disrupting the operations of the conventions. So that's that's happening. We'll come back to

how it's getting finance and timing in a second. Across to the south of it is a surface parking lot. On story is the site where the convention Center hotel will go, and that's where we have our good friends from Portland. If we went to a process, went to an RFP had committee coming to our center, was a unanimous choice that the folks Importland had the experience,

had a financial wherewithal, the leadership to take this project on. And we are in the midst of trying to put together a finance team plan and a development plan that we can bring back to our elected officials at the county and city levels. Now I had on a commissioner a few weeks ago, and she talked about PBS being a big issue. That is, do we build a brand new stadium which appears unlikely? How much? Where does the money come from? You got the NFL, you got the Bengals, got

public involvement. Then you got the Heritage Bank Center, which obviously needs to be replaced. Now you got the convention Center, Convention Center, hotel. Parts of that you can control, parts you can't control. I don't think you control Mike Brown. That man is an assassin when it comes to business deals. That guy's unbelievable. But you do have control at this point over a Duke Energy Center and in the hotel and Heritage Bank Center. Are you

looking at those three pieces together or separately? Does one cause the other or not. No, it doesn't cause the other. And I look, here's the way I think this is. Look, all these things are important. Let's all be clear about that. And the way we're looking at this convention center. First of all, let's stay and stay in the lane and finish what's in front of us and get that convention center district moving underway, get

it going. The funding sources for that convention center are being structured in such a way that it is not as if they would have been dedicated to either one of those two other projects. In other words, the sales tax is where the stadium learning. We're not asking for any sales tax. We're simply looking for hotel occupancy tax, which is typically what is used to fund the

center itself and to support a convention center hotel. So we are with some exception of some other fees, but not we are not getting into the general into the general sales tax to support the convention center, so it can go independently, get moving, get it underway. To the extent of the community, which look that that's a dog, that's a dog of a building through the heritage than the center. It needs. We need an upgraded facility at some point in time, and I don't want that need to get in the

way of this project. And I think we need to start a project and get it underway and get it completed. That doesn't mean simultaneously we don't start thinking and planning for something else. But I don't. I don't. What happens is is sometimes is we can't people communities around the country never seem to get moved forward because they keep throwing new things table. Yes, yes, let's just do what do this? It's done because it's a separate issue.

I mean, I assume the Bengals are going to be here for the rest of my lifetime and yours in our grandchildren's life, I assume. But if they're not here, the convention Center in the hotel that connects with it is even more important. Obviously the Heritage Center. But they have someone proposed one center that has the Heritage Bank Center, the brand new POBA or shall I say, the pay Core Stadium, and the Convention Center and one huge facility

that's a non starter. That'll be like the paralysis caused by analysis, and so you're you can't do They don't, and they to be honest with the practically speaking, people will say, well, you can do the convention center and the stay and you can use them together, and that that sounds good. That can't happen because the conventions get booked two and three and four and five years in advance. You don't know what your NFL schedule is no until

each year, and so you're gonna have conflicts every year. So that they had that in Singlis, it happened, you know, every once in a

while it serviced one another. But the likelihood of those two complimenting each other, no, an arena, an arena and a convention center may be something that will be more complimentary because we don't have for you know better or worse, we don't have a tenant, we don't have a team that doesn't schedule ahead right and looking at it from the Midwest, we want to compete and defeat Indianapolis, Columbus. We want to defeat maybe Louisville. We showed in

Nashville. And so for a convention center four or five years from now, Red's baseball games, FC soccer, maybe the Bengals. You have OTR. You got synergies happening, and you can't wait for some other piece to happen to begin this, it'll never occur. So tell the American people as far as the timing of this brand new hotel which doesn't have an operator and doesn't have a name, but that's no, we'll not to have it down at

this point. It kind of what's the time frame. Well, the ideas we are moving these projects on on a parallel basis, the renovation of the convention Center and the building of the plaza outside of on the Millennium Hotel site and a hotel. So the goal is to continue design and putting the financing plan together over the next throughout the balance of this year. What's the goal

of this time next year? It's not a little sooner than this time next year, we will be under construction on the renovation of the convention Center and the plaza. Do you have next year? So a year from now saying if I've have you on like April May of twenty twenty four, there'll be

spading under construction. Yeah, we need to. We need to be under construction because we want to do it in eighteen months, which means we opened the convention Center back up in January twenty six and the hotel would open ideally win, but the hotel is slightly behind it, but not much. But the construction period is longer, so I imagine it's a little north of you

know, two years. So it would be open where the convention center would be open in January twenty six, the hotel would be open probably a year later. Yea, do you have all the participants singing out of the same hymn book? Do you have city council and the county commissioners and you Steve Layper's three CDC singing the same song? I think so, Bill, I mean we had had multiple means, you know, it doesn't mean that people don't have questions and certain concerns, but I do think we have a lot

of momentum at both the city in the county. We went to both of them this week to talk about the the hotel and we was very good meetings public meetings, and both times the mayor has been very very supportive. So we feel very fortunate to have him a sort of a leader along with the commissioners. And we also need some help, but the state a state legislation to change some laws about how we use the hotel tax. How much helpdown tax we can charge and a few other things. And we have been having

very strong support from our state delegation. I know both sites has been very helpful, as as Senator Bill Blessing. Both gentlemen have worked hard with us to try to enable us to accomplish the changes in state law that we hope to have by this time this summer, at the end of the you know, the end of the budget period. So they too have been singing from

the same hymnals. So we feel very fortunate so or that our political leadership, elected leadership, recognizes that we need to make an investment, recognize that the investment that we're recommending can be a game changer, and that it will complement a lot of the hard work and investments of both our city leaders and corporate leaders have made in downtown and over the run. All right, and

the public's involvement will be welcome at some point down the road. But Steve Lapor, imagine our city without OTR looking the way it looks now, without downtown. Imagine if three CDC had never come together, we'd look like downtown Toledo. But I don't know, but I think every once in a while, you know, we sort of beat up on each other, and I think we at times, every once in a while look and see, you

know what this community has accomplished. I think we ought to be very appreciative of, particularly of our corporate leadership, who is really pounceul Pound is unmatched

in the country. We just had a whole group of folks from corporate leaders and elected officials, the mayor of Pittsburgh and corporate leaders in Pittsburgh and the foundation community in Pittsburgh here in Cincinnati trying to model what we've done here, and they were they were not only appreciative, but very envious of what we've

been able to accomplish. And they realize that we have something special with our corporate community and the fact that our city officials, county officials, and corporate officials work so so well together. No, it was a few men getting together about in twenty four twenty five and say we can't have this, and all of a sudden the renaissance of Cincinnati happened. But Steve Leeper, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck,

Thank you young man. You take care, God bless you. Let's continue with horror news coming up next at your Home of the Reds and off today, but out on Friday, Saturday and Sunday with the White Sox A news radio seven hundred WW. No, that's amazing. The digestive system of a sloth is so slow. It takes days to digest the leaves it eats. The sloth's gut produces methane, but that methane is absorbed into the blood, which is why you can never blame an SPD on a sloth. No,

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not talking about some sort of difficult questions. It might be you know, who were the participants when laid Dakte sat down in Paris with Henry Kissinger. What was that about. We're not dealing with important matters. Look at sakes already lost. That was the Vietnam War. We got. You're not as stupid as peopid s. Thank you. We got sane X versus Coleraine. Oh boy, here we go. This is the eighth grade. I already had my test eighty three percent, big shot. He did pretty well.

By the way, what happens if I do worse than sake? Go back to school. You've got back to school. You're back to Saint He did not know how many senators there were. Well, I said fifty, and then I said he's half right. Then he said twenty five. I asked him how many members of the House of Representatives. They have no clue, I said, thirty two used to be four and thirty eight before redistrict on what it is now? Or thirty five? Go asking the questions. Ask

the questions messing. These are the ones that kids messing. By the way, you get the four, you get four answers that he had to pick the right one. Number one. Here we go. Are you ready? Yes? Who lived in America before the Europeans arrived? You have the choices of Chinese, Chinese, Russians, Pacific Islanders, or American Indians. I'll go with d American Indians. I think it's the first two because now they don't like us. We kicked them out. So you're going with the Russians

and China. Well, saying seventy eight percent got that right. The said Indians, okay, number two, Pacific Islanders, aren't they in the California League or something in baseball? Is then the Inuits we talked about yesterday, you can't say that. Number two can't say. How about this one? Forty seven percent got this right? Who was the first president United States? Let me give me, let me give me the four Here we go.

Most got it wrong John Hancock, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin or George Washington. Very very easy, seg George Washington. Bengo got that wrong. Yes, although Dolly Madison makes some pretty good cupcakes. I like the cakes. How about this one? What was the important thing that Abraham Lincoln did in the eighteen sixties? A led the US during the War of eighteen twelve.

That was answered by twelve percent that one nice, And led the US during the American Revolution, led the US during the Mexican American War, or led the US during the Civil War? Rock d Civil War seg Civil War erect dingo. I would been like, you know, the mascipatient proclamat not even that. Yeah, that mi nude where you're going? One? When is the Independence Day in America celebrated? Now? You got four question every day around here. J December twenty fifth, got thirty eight percent. By the

way, what was it? What is the date Independence days celebrating in America? All right? What do you say? July fourth? What he said? You're going with him? All right? What oh is on the East coast of the United States? This was only answered correctly by fifty You got you have four possibles. You got the Arctic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, which was a very popular answer among the eighth graders, Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Ocean, the Atlantic sake going with a big a all right question, What

did Martin Luther King Junior? Do? Four answers? Ran for the presidency, established to Harvard Law School, became the first black US senator. Got thirty eight percent on that one, and fought for civil rights. That was thirty four Pi are all these d I don't know? Dennison ahead, I'll give you two more. Okay, give me the longest river in the United States of America Missippi River, of course, Sike got the Ohio, the Potomac, the Colorado, or the Mississippi, which is d you know it

might be I don't know, mississipp Yes, Mississippi. Well that's correct. Now about this one, what does that might have been a trick deal because of the Colorado's pretty long time as rock. This give me two rights guaranteed by the First Amendment. Just two, not five? Beach, press, religion, Assembly. That's pretty good petition. Your government seg he only got two? Right? That correct? What is the concept that no branch of

government can control the other? They gave you four possible as the answer is checks and balances. Yes, now that one, legislat and judicial. They got all They got that all that wrong? Stupid. So they also was asked who is the current president United States? Forty two percent didn't know? Forty two What are these people doing? They're not going to school? Only one money? What is it in Cincinnati? Is it eighteen thousand or the

twenty one? If twenty, it's twenty some thousands of Cincinnati. How about this one? If you're a teacher, what do you think about all this? Who did the colonists fight? Thank you? Run and the Revolutionary War? Who did the colonists fight? You got the Norwegians, the British, the Venezuelans and the Mexicans. Those your choices. That was only answered right by fifty percent, thought Norwegians. The Norwegians are driving us nuts. How

about who attacked us on December seventh, nineteen forty one? The questions are the Russians answers, Russians, Mexicans, Canadians or the Japanese. Most got that wrong by a wide margin. Shouldn't this test be at the end of the year. And if you don't get I'm sorry again, I'm sorry. This is awful. So you wonder why we have the voters we have, righty, No, that's exactly right. I don't know, don't know. Forty two percent don't even know that. Joe Biden is the No, they

don't know. Yeah, you you walk in there and saying, well, knock your head in the wall. And how much do we pay for public education? Thank you trill trillions? And we get that result, of course twenty six percent or chronically apps and then him show up. So if it's not being reinforced at home, I got no shot, got zero shots. I give me some sports and rock went some more. I'm gonna pot up some more. We'll lead. The Stude Reporter is a proud service. Every

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playing back when I was doing the weekend extraining show. Yeah and stop playing. Famous phrase with him was it's a shame you can't steal first base. If he could, then he'd be an all star. What about Ed Sharon? Because we got wet that, we got that situation up against these things, get it nine Depth stands up against Amber heard says nope, we're going to court. Let's do this thing. What was his crime? What was his crime? Benjamin Crump was the attorney for the for the estate suing,

and he came out. We listened to the statement Ed Sharon made. He said it'd be like a painter saying you can't use blue anymore as a color. And he certainly got on stage or on the on the witness stand and went through the progression, the string progression, and it's in like a ton of songs, whatever that is. But right to me it sounds very But Benjamin, Benjamin Crumps involved, you know, it's a rip off and it's a shakedown. And Ed Sharon said, I spent eight years. He spent

millions of dollars in fees. He also missed the funeral of his grandmother who died during the trial. And he said, what am I supposed to do? Benjamin Crump? You know music more than we do. What was the issue that Ed Sharon said, proves that I didn't do? Said this sounded we had a patent attorney on about this. And the issue comes down to, you know, the complexity of the structure and how much doesn't match well. The average person doesn't know can't name all the musical notes. So there's

eight of them. It's hard to prove in court, even if you're Benjamin Crump. And yeah, I mean, you know, I mean there's how many Our attorney said, um, he used to be like four hundred songs like a week. We're produced. Now it's it's something like sixty thousand a day because of all the electronic stuff. So all these songs, which there's only so many note combinations that you can come up with, and every song more or less has sames, some drums, uh, you know, guitar,

a bass, a rhythm, a lead, you know. So there's like a million possibilities. Benjamin get through. He's every successful, right. If you're successful, you get sued, and then generally you settle right because you know what, that's what he was hoping. He's gonna spend for God love him because that's a tough deal. But he went through in three million dollars in legal face he spent. Now you have money's to the lawyer. I can listen to both those songs and say, Elliott, play get it

On, because that's one of rock's favorite Sheritan. I'll listen. I can put this on laid at home when I get home, say take the lights down a little bit, number four or a little and you got number four by yourself. But in the top, she's a three kids screaming day, was a baseball through a window and there goes to the moment is done. There goes number four right off the now play at shearing song, whatever the hell it is. I want to love your mouse, to remember the taste

of the taste of that good voice. Will your eyes still smile from your cheek? Or your eyes didn't? Kanye we discovered she believe I don't know to it's a haircut too or a co Marvin Gay had his bas blown out by right when not the guys are not and Marvin Gay is about the best there was. I mean the latest I've been compared to either Marvin Gay or Ronaldo. My wife thinks d and well, baby, you got to go back to CEI. She's still demanding where you heet a haircut at? Or?

Is that yeah? No, no, she handles out completely completely. I got some fancy joint up the street. I've been one hundred dollars on a cut. It's sixty five dollars instead of I'd go to Great Clips for like eight dollars. And she said I look stupid. I know, I look like Messi instead of Ronaldo. S I continue with Sport's wrong with that? I either wanted me gonna make hundreds of millions at all, I thought Jeff Birning. He called me yesterday from Rehad. I said, what are

you doing in Rehad? Didn't they name a field after him in Kenya? Ya? He Jeff burning Field and ken Jan Kenya. Good for him? When you good man? And he was in Saudi Arabia? What's he doing over? They're signing a new player and I'm thinking, could it be the big m Messi or Ronaldo may play? What about Harry Kane or Kaka Conka? And what's his name? Harry Kane? What's Bob? And Bope is my favorite boy? Boy's first Frenchman Man Bopy. You know his first name,

Lou sweet lips and bop a Lou, it's his first name. He's gonna make some money too. Please can I'm sorry, sake? Please continue? Well these sports talk tonight. Let's see they got the Justin Vive of the Cyclones at six fifty and the um They're gonna talk a little golf with the AAC Golf Coach of the Year, the one and only Doug Martin from the University of Cincinnati at seven thirty five and lands by the way, I will be golfing for the first time in ten years at the Friendly confines with

a buddy, youman of course in great shape. Steve Speck and a couple other people. I can't mention when will you be there? What's the date? And the can't say I may stop buying, Say hi Friday the Friday. Then you know where you're going? Right off a friend, I've been there, Bill Cunningham on the Bill Cunningham first son was born. So let's call that. Can you hit the ball at all? Of course? But you know I've seen Chandlon Rose try to hit the ball. It's he swung

four times on a drive with the ball on the team. Couldn't hit the ball. I'm watching this. I'm going you know the basketball player right he never played, never played. No, he could not hit the ball. He's never got off the tea anyway. I get off the tea after that. Can't say he got no zip code on it? No, Who's who are you the guest of? Can't say please continue? Say wow? Is

your green jacket still in there? Steve, You'll be going through Bill Cunningham Lane, and then it'll be the valet, Bill Cunningham vallet and Bill Cunningham. The doors are Bill Cunningham and the Billham so you're playing view or I'm only playing nine holes. I's on. I'm not doing eighteen. I'll kill myself in no way. I could never play going to the Friendly Confines. Yeah, and you're not involved. I may stop by later anyway, just to watching snicker. You'll do a lot of that. What's on the Big

Show? Do you know what? You ought to have him caddy for you? I should do that. I'm just saying. I mean, the guy taking a card, aren't you. I assume we were, Well, you can you know you could you drive it and tell him what to do? Yeah, I'll tell him hit it? Hit it over there? What's on the big terrible slice? I have to I usually kind of aim, swear up and bring it inside a little bit as state at the top. It'll stop them. I don't even know what he just said, and say what's

on the Big show? Attorney right out of the gate. On some issues. We've got our fitness guy at Pja Street at four, ask him some questions on the Civics testee you I will, and then at five Ed and I will be doing our annual discussion of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh boy, folks that have been inducted. Oh, they are in the performance category. Kate Bush, Cheryl Crowe, Missy Elliott, George Michael, Willie Nelson raised against the machine and the spinners. Are they rock and

rollers? Um? I would say about one third of those names I mentioned are rock and rollers, but they're still get in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame? How dare you? Um? Musical Excellence Awards, Chakra Khan Al Cooper, don't know who that is. Bernie Taupin, don't know who that is. He's the he wrote all those songs. He's brilliant. He's wrote all those songs for Elton John. Over there, you know Elton John. He's the lyric everyone, brilliant songwriter for Elton John. Got a text

here from Russ Jackson. Mambope's first name is Killian and bat name great. Mom was thinking when he named h me. He's good. He may play for Brillian, he said France, though, Well get get him and get get the three of them over here, get Ronaldo, Messi and Bope. I'm what that cost? How much is the national debt? They'll have all? Nobody will have money left if those guys aren't paid. You're not kidding fill the stadium though, that's for sure. Jeff anyway, all the time.

Thank you right here in Bob, just five thousand. I've been there several times. It's first night. Game is selling twenty five out? Yep? What's the res game? Game six? Please continuase continue, say nothing else, nothing else, any more. Questions One is who's the governor of your state? That was a twelve percent correct answer, mister fran de Wine. Mister fran de Wine, say you know who the governor is, Mike DeWine. Who's the lieutenant governor? Um, mister Houstead, good job,

good job. See you're in the twelve percentile. Thank god, we're paying this much for these for these results. What economic system does America have? The choices are capitalism, communism, Marxism or socialism? How many people and that said socialism, kay, twenty eight percent. They wish capitalism, that's what they want. Capitalism was not the preferred answer. I guess the music's done and we're done too. We've been done for years. Thank you very

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