The Cunninghamy, Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in the tricetate Red spaceball kicks off about two forty five perc afternoon. I take belong to you who that is. They beat the Angels three straight when one out of four at the Snakes now in San Francisco, So if they win this afternoon, they would have gone five and five on the ten game road trip, which is pretty good. But another hand, they look terrible, can't score, lots
of injuries. Back out at a two forty five, then off tomorrow Thursday and four games against the Cubbies, a double dip on Friday day night doubleheader, then back out at Saturday and Sunday, and so we'll see what happens. There are a game and a half for two games out of the wild card, and they have the Cubs in town this weekend. So if they sweep the Cubs, guess what, the Reds are back in the playoffs. So we'll see what occurs. But like many other Americans, I received my
tax valuation increase on the modified palatial state. We're up about forty percent, and I thought, who better to talk about what's happening with the increased valuation of real estate, at least in the state of Ohio. Is the great Bridget Kelly. She's the county auditor. She walks in the shoes of Dusty
Rhodes and Bridget Kelly. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Bridget, first of all, can you explain to the American people why taxes, the tax evaluations and are going up thirty to forty percent when many many Americans don't feel that's the case. Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me back. I appreciate the invitation to join you. So I will say what we've sent out to folks across the county are what's called
tentative valuation notices. So they are tentative and they happen to prove by the State of Ohio. And so we do this actually as a service to taxpayers, so that we can be transparent about our work and so the folks know what's going on in other counties. You're a notice of your new value comes in the form of your tax bill, and so we think there's we think
there's a better way to do business than that. So the way the process works is, you know, the state of Ohio, the Great State of Ohio, directs us to do our re craisal every six years, with an
update in between called the triennial. They tell us how to do it, which is, we have to uniformly value each parcel of property in Hamilton County, of which there are over three hundred and fifty thousand, so we have to view each and every one of those, and then we are directed by the state to submit to them tentative values, which they either approve or not, and they have approved ours, and that's what folks are getting in their
mailboxes. But I think, much like the palatial Cunningham states, folks are seeing increases in values all across the state of Ohio. So it's not something that is exclusive to Hamilton County, but rather something that's happening all over the state. And as I haven't been in this issue for a little bit, it appears the state tax Commissioner is the actual person. I think it's a woman that's a mic DeLine a point d that kind of triggered the beginning of
the process. And no one believes that it's legitimate to say your value or your property one up forty percent in the past one year. So for that person living in Arlington Heights or Deer Park or Springfield Township or maybe Franklin County. Who's the auditor in Hamilton County, it's you, bridget Kelly said at
one up forty percent. No one believes that happened. So what do you say to that person that says, that's not right, that's not accurate, it's not true, and I don't want to get in line to go through a long process of determining the actual value. What do you say to that person that says, bridget Kelly, that could not be the case. So we'd say a couple of things. One, we want to make sure that people are aware of the process and what's going on, which is why they
get their tentative value notices. And I'd also encourage your listeners to check out Hamilton County auditor dot org and look at their property. Make sure we have all the information correct on that. So another reason why we do this is to make sure that we are as accurate as possible. The second thing I would say is folks will get their final values at the end of the year, and if people think we miss the mark, they can file in the
Board of Revision and again that's a resource that's available. They can see the process on our website Hamilton County auditor dot org, including you know what types of evidence that they can bring in to substantiate their claims. And the filing period for that is January first through March thirty first of next year. That's stepped forth by statute. But I will also say, you know, we've seen the biggest fluctuations in neighborhoods where homeownership is accessible. We see flippers come
in out of Saint landlords. We have folks coming in to buy homes who may prefer to buy in one neighborhood, but it's out of reach for them. And so that's caught a lot of pretty significant fluctuations in neighborhoods that were a little more accessible to people. And the other thing, I would say, many many years ago, I represented somebody who went through the border revision and it wasn't a big deal. It's kind of informal, there's not a
lot of rules of evidence. Three persons sit there and they kind of ask you a few questions. You might come in with your own appraisal, which is always lower than what the county says, and then they generally lower it, but many times they don't. But it's not a big deal to go down to I guess to the Todd Port Tuon County Administration Building to have a little bit of a hearing. So you would encourage people in between January and
March of next year. If they're still unhappy, they go ahead and file a piece of paper more or less an appeal, and it may not be heard for six months to a year. But it's not a big deal, that's true. So the Board of Provision is comprised of designates from the Auditor's Office, the Treasurer's office, and as well as designates from the President of
the Board of County Commissioners. And again, if folks go to our website at Hamilton County auditor dot org, you can see things you can bring in to your point an appraisal, assigned estimate from a contractor similar sales, things like that. Now, if you come in the Board of Provision and just say hey, I'm mad at you because I think my taxes they're too high, that's probably not going to be sufficient evidence for the board to find in
your favor. But we have a lot of experience folks on the board who take these things seriously, and you know, it's their job to be fair and to consider the evidence that is presented to them. I think the other really important thing for people to remember is just because your value goes up by a certain percentage does not mean your taxes will go up by that same percentage. So we get a lot of questions from people that say, you know, well, the values in the county have gone up, you know,
almost thirty three percent on average. Does that mean I'll have a thirty three percent increase and my taxes in the answer to that is no. The way that taxes are structured in Ohio and the way that levies are calculated, they're guaranteeing to generate a certain amount of money, but no more or no less than that. So it's possible we have folks whose values go up and their taxes go up. It's possible we have folks whose values go up and taxes
stay about the same. It's sible that values go down and taxes go up again because they have to fulfill the obligations of those levies that were approved by voters and communities all across the county. And I'm glad you're brought up levees. One of the reason Tony Bender left Hambleton County from Indian Hill is one
point six million dollar estate and moved to Boone County. It's because of all these damned levies we are supporting in Hambleton County, all kinds of levies such as the zoo, Engagine care, such as children's hospitals, such as you see medical center, such as the meals on Wheels. There's no county, in the sound of my voice at as many special levees as Hamblett County has.
That's why many move out to Boone County. What can we do to rain in the amount of money we give to all these ten to twelve special levees that most of us vote against but which they always pass. Well, folks and can look on our website again at Hamilton County auditor dot org and click on the tax distributions tab and see exactly you know where their tax that are going. So again, that's something that we do in the interest of
transparency. For levies that will be on the ballot, there will be an estimate of what those will be per hundred thousand dollars of valuation on our website here in a couple of weeks. But you know, levies are decisions that are made by communities, and you know, the state legislator has steadily scaled back the amount of funds that they are giving to local communities. So it often gives people, you know, no choice but to put a levy on
the ballot. And ultimately it's the people who live in that community, whether it's in the county or in a smaller municipality anywhere throughout Hamilton County to make decisions about where they want to invest their money. And so that's what happens when levies pass, is because you know, people believe in safety service or
parks or a w rec center or any number of things. So again, you know, it's just a really challenging place for some of these local municipalities to be in because folks one amenities, they want nice neighborhoods, they want strong communities. But at the end of the day, somebody's got to pay
for it. Now, Bridget Kelly, you bring up the point the value of your property may have gone up forty percent, but there's a specific dollar amount to be raised, like for school taxes and school levies and so the amount you pay goes down because they say the school system collects fifty million dollars
and the value of property like in Madera went way up. That doesn't mean that you're going to pay more in taxes for the schools because the amount of money than on the tax duplicate is going down because they value the property went up. Do I have that right more or less? That's exactly correct. So the state has what's called reduction factors. So if there is a fifty million dollars levey, that levy will generate fifty million dollars regardless of the value
of homes. And so you know, there are some communities that have a lot of new construction that's going to have an impact. There are some communities where levies fall off, so that will be an impact. You know, we get a lot of emails from folks who say, what are my property taxes going to be? But we unfortunately don't have a crystal ball in the
auditor's office. And so until let we know the disposition of the levies that are on the ballot in November, and until we know the effective tax rates, which are again set by the State of Ohio later this year, then we won't be able to tell people what their tax obligation will be for the coming year. But again at the end of the year, when folks have their final values, they'll be able to see those on our website at Hamilton County Auditor dot org. Now, Bridget Kelly, you spent a lot of
years in Columbus. You're now the Hamlety County Auditor walking in the boots of Dusty Rhodes, and there's been some media reporting about your back surgery and about your cancer treatment. What can you tell the American people about how you're doing physically. I am continuing to feel well and feel strong. My back's feeling great thanks to doctor manear Tabusha, and I'm going continuing to get my treatments doctor Rfon Furduc. Those two are they have made it so that I can
continue to be healthy and well. And you know, just four tends to have good healthcare and a great support system, so I can continue to go eat at Sorrento's Pizza and solve all the world's problems with the folks in my life. So I'm very grateful for it, and it gives me the opportunity to continue to talk with a great American like you on your radio show,
so I'm very grateful. Well, the cancer is one of those things I said to you off there, that everybody's got something and no matter what it is, in life, that we're blessed to living a time where you can contract a cancer and normally the prognosis is good. Unless you contract something like a pankaratic cancer that could be a bit more difficult. But women's type cancers
are now largely treatable, much like any other problem in life. And I don't know what the future is going to hold, but nonetheless, to live in a time where you can get cancer treatment, continue with your life, continue serving nor would the gem of the Highlands. And also Hamleton County is a positive. What do you see yourself doing in five or ten years. Well, I hope to be in the Hamleton County auditor for as long as
the voters will have me. We have a great team here, and we actually have a very lean team who are a lot smaller than auditor staffed in similarly situated county, but they have a ton of experience. We're a professional office, and I'm very grateful to the voters for the ability to serve my community in the State House and now as a Hamilton County Auditor. So I hope in ten years I'll still be, you know, serving all the best
pizza places around town and calling it my favorite radio hosts. Bridget Kelly, you're a great American. How's your daddy doing? He is as great as ever. You know. There's all these rumors around that, you know, maybe he might think about retiring, but Willie and I both know that's just not true. I don't think so we need Bob Kelly around for a long
time. At some point I will disclose his real pseudonym, but at this point he must continue to be a great practicing attorney, a great young daughter doing her job, walking in the shoes of Dusty Rhodes, the American Dream and Bridget Kelly once again Hamlety County Auditor. Good to hear about your cancer treatment successful and I wish you and yours nothing but the best. And thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show this Wednesday afternoon. Thanks for having
me all look forward you next time. Thank you. Bridget Kelly, former State rep. Now Hamlet County Auditor. And the value is not the same as the taxes that you pay because it goes up and down. But I can all but guarantee that taxes in the long run will not go down. They're going to go up. And there's no county, and within the sound
of my voice, it has twelve special levies. We're supporting everything, which is why rich guys like Tony Bender moved out of Indian Hill got into in a state in Boone County with a much better house, paying a lot less than taxes is because we're carrying the burden and many other counties. So let's
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