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money in it now. I Billy Cunningham to grant American, and I hope you had a wonderful or fourth of July long weekend as I did. So many Americans don't want to work Friday. People are off, Saturday off, Sunday off, Monday off, Tuesday off, probably off today. But one man that is working is a state representative. Bill Sites of the Ohio House and Bill Sites, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's deal generically. Bill Sites. It's great to have you on
because you're the conscience and the dean of the Ohio Legislature. But before we get there, I watched over the weekend with Taylor Swift Friday and Saturday. Reds Baseball Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I watched FC Tay New England whatever, Robert Craft's team, and I watched three hundred thousand people come downtown on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. And I watched no problems. There were no mass shootings, there were no significant police runs of three hundred thousand
people. You're in this town, You're in a big law firm here, You've been a state rep and senator for about twenty five years. Did you have a sense of pride in the fact that Cincinnati functioned and we had three hundred thousand people come down over the Fourth of July weekend or more without any major incidents of any type. Well, I think that's a tribute to the folks who live in our region and to the respect that we have or a
good time and a good time that is held in an orderly manner. Now, I don't consider Taylor Swift concert goers as being likely criminals to begin with. They tend to be younger teenage teenage girls that are fluting over Taylor. But still, in all, it's great to have that many major events here without incident. Compares very favorably to what we saw over the weekend in Baltimore and Sheldlpia and god knows where else, but you know, knock Wood.
We've had our share of tragedies, there's no question, but fortunately this weekend was a tribute to Cincinnati as a sports town on the move and a concert arena destination place on the move. So it's all good for good old Cincinnati. Before we talk about skiol choice and all those other sexy topics, I want to get your take on a commentary and also on some polling from NBC News that said, overall, thirty nine percent of Americans describe themselves as extremely
proud to be an American. But when you break it down, it comes down to twenty nine percent of Democrats are proud to be an American, seventy one percent of Republicans are proud to be an American. When you break it down further, if you take those between the ages of eighteen to thirty, eighteen to thirty year olds, one percent say they're proud to be Americans. The answers eighteen percent, So eighty two percent of this is NBC News,
so they must be right. Eighty two percent of those eighteen to thirty are not proud to be Americans. In fact, only eighteen percent. What the hell is going on? Well, look, Shount me among the seventy one percent of Republicans that are proud to be an American, and I would say what is going on is our K to twelve schools and our colleges have done a rather poor job at inculcating the pay think values of why America is still
desplight, its flaws, the greatest country in the world. And we're trying to tackle that in the state legislature, first with a bill on higher ed reform that would tend to stamp out some of the wokeness on our college campuses where students get a zero for using the words biological woman on a test, and also a new bill that we're looking at in strengthening our social study standards to make sure that we are teaching the founding documents, to make sure that
we're teaching the real truth about the founding of America. It is not the sixteen nineteen project. It is the seventeen seventy six project. And so we're doing our part. But I think that's really where part of the problem was, is that so many young people have not received an adequate grounding in our history, in both good and bad. But I think on the whole much better good than bad. And they are not learning the biographies of the great
Americans that preceded us. They have not gotten a good job of understanding how America has saved the world in World War One and World War two, how we are still the guardian of the world's peace and security. There's a lot of reasons to be proud of being an American. I don't teach too many people wanting to leave the United States and go somewhere else. I see millions of people clamoring to come in illegally or illegally. We must be doing something
right. Well, when when you pass laws in Columbus, I think teachers, unions and a lot of public education says, so what, because I'm gonna play later today. The comments of law professor Erwin Schemerinsky. Now Schemerinsky has been he's been at UKL, how about University of California at Berkeley for
about twenty seven years. You can imagine his viewpoints. And so when the decisions came out last week on affirmative action, etc. Schemerinsky spoke to his class on Friday afternoon, and I'm gonna play the tape, but he essentially said, now look, from now on, and he's teaching his class from now on, it's wise not to send emails, do not send a text, do not have any written memorandum of any type of what we do here at u CAL Berkeley, because when we're sued, we want to be able
to say that we followed all the laws, all the rules, and all the regulations. In fact, he went so far as to say the following, which I'm gonna play later on. That is, if I'm put in a deposition as the dean of the Law School of UKL Berkeley, and I'm ask about why we're certain professors hired and why we're some not hired, he said, you have to lie. He said to his students, don't tell them why someone was hired. Don't give them a hook to hang their hat
on. To demosh straight that we're proceeding differently than what the Republican courting column in Washington wants us to do. So the dean of the law school, this isn't the engineering, this is the law school teaching constitutional law. Don't put anything in writing. So when the bill cites is he didn't say this. When the bill cites is of this world, change the law and require us to teach things and laws go about American values. We're not going to
do it, but we're going to testify that we did. So how do you overcome how do you overcome that? Well, look, bill that that is a problem. I mean, I've seen this time and again. We pass good law. The question then is how will they be enforced, how will they be how will they be adopted? It often takes time for the word to get out that the law has changed. I'll give you an example.
Just last year, I finally succeeded after five years how to bill that legalized fireworks, And it took a while for the word to get out. But last night fireworks started the entire styline. So I'm proud of that. But it takes time for the word to get out. And if professors are going to be practitioners of civil disobedience and not follow the laws we pass, I don't know what the answer is. Because we can only do so much
as ninety nine state reps and thirty three senators and one governor. We have to hope that the public itself will rise up in opposition and h and begin to spill the beans on what some of these folks in higher academia are actually up to. You saw it a few months ago where the Stanford Law School students booed off the stage a prominent federal judge, and then the dean of a law school chastised the federal judge for coming there in the first place.
I mean, we need to have civil discourse in this country, and all points of view must be respected and listen to, and people I would have never dreamed in law school nor jew of booing a guest speaker regardless of their point of view. You wouldn't have done that at the University of Toledo. I wouldn't have done that at the University of Cincinnati. But now these kids
think they're they're a law into themselves. I guess you know. I'm just looking at a statistic today, Bill to talk about how great America is. This is from the Census Bureau. From nineteen eighty to twenty twenty one, the income of black females has gone up ninety seven point seven percent. The income of black males has gone up thirty three point six percent, and the income of white males has gone up only thirteen point two percent. White females
have gone up one hundred point eight percent. Sure, we have flaws in this country, but when you look at those facts from our own Census Bureau, you'll see that we're making progress for black Americans, for female Americans. This is something to celebrate. We should not be denegrating our own country.
I want to go, I want to go nationally, then locally. But the Berkeley Law School dean Erwin Schemerinsky said that they will secretly enact a policy of racial discrimination and faculty hiring and students selection, which is illegal in California, now illegal in the entire country. He said, quote, if I'm ever deposed, I'm going to deny. I said this to you, quote unquote. So you you have the leader of the law school saying that I
will lie under oath to federal judges. Sound like Bill Clinton, because we're going to ignore the law. Now. Also at o nu Ohio Northern University, A to Ohio not exactly a bastion I thought of liberal thought, Professor Scott Gerber was perp walked out of his quote constitutional law class by two armed agents of the law school at the Ohio Northern and coompanied by two eight to
police department officials because and taken to the dean's office. And so Scott Garber, who's sixty two years old, been there twenty two years, thought, you know, is there an active shooter on campus? Or is my wife
dead? And when he got to the dean's office, he was given his walking papers because he had written a column for Hill dot com in Washington, and also it was excerpted in the Wall Street Journal that law schools and colleges need more diversity of opinion, that d EI is important, but we need diversity of opinion. And he was fired because of lack of collegiality. So we're not talking about Berkeley, Bill Sites, who controls the house with an
iron grip. We're talking about Ohio Northern University. Your comments, yep, I heard, I heard. I heard your segment with that professor a week or so ago. And what happened to him is inexcusable and unforgivable. And I hope he sues and gets his job back. But intolerance on college campuses is unfortunately a fact of life. The liberal left seems to be willing to silence any views except their own and punish those who express an opposing view.
That really is a shame, and that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of. One of the things we just put in the budget we just passed is to create five new centers of Constitutional Excellence, encouraging the diversity of opinion at five schools in Ohio, Cleveland State, Ohio State, University of Cincinnati, Miami, and Toledo. We are setting up five new institutes at a cost of a couple of million dollars a pop, just to encourage that
very diversity of opinion that the Ohio Northern professor so eloquently addressed. If these laws are ignored by Ohio Northern University, which God bless them, not exactly the Harvard of the Midwest. But if I could have gotten there when I was going to law school, I would have done it. I think they rejected man. I think Toledo is the only one. It took me. I would have done it. But I can't imagine those who run Ohio Northern
is going to ignore what you're doing. They don't care about what Columbus says. They couldn't care less well, I have Northern apparently as a private school, so our ability to control them is more limited than what we have over the public universities like you see in Miami and Ohio states. So what can
I say? But eventually, Bill, you gotta hope that right minded people, the people of that seventy one percent of Republicans who still believe America is a great country, will vote with their feet say I don't want to go someplace where my freedom to express a contrary opinion is so ruthlessly suppressed. And
ultimately that's got to be That's got to be the answer. People. We need to get the word out when these incidents happen, and then people need to vote with their feet and say I'm not going to go there, where to go? I'm to go somewhere. If you can't go to y our Northern you can't go anywhere. Well you know there there I you know, what can I say? There are there are some colleges that still I mean, we have George Mason University, we have Hillale College. There are a
few beacons of conservative thought in the college world, but not many. And I still think that setting up these five new centers of constitutional good lu Diversity of opinion is a good thing we're doing and hopefully that'll catch on and the world will get out. And lastly, we got to talk about the budget. We got off on a bit of a tangent. I think you and I could go round and around forever, only about a minute and a half
remaining. Explain school choice. That is, if your kids in the Princess School district, which is failing, uh, you can you can get get your grade schooler or high schooler and the state will pay to go to a good school. Please explain sure. We now have universe school choice in Ohio. Everyone who comes from a family earning less than four hundred and fifty percent of the poverty line will be eligible for a voucher to attend the private or
prochial school of their choice. People who make more than four hundred and fifty percent of the poverty line will receive a voucher as well, but it will be in diminished value according to a sliding scale, so that the very richest people will only get a voucher worth ten percent of the value of the base voucher. But everyone will qualify for a voucher. That's a good thing.
At the same time, the Ohio House insisted on fully funding the K to twelve traditional public schools through the constitutional formula that we came up with a couple of years ago. So there's something in this budget for devotees of traditional K to twelve schools and something in the budget for devotaes of school choice. The problem with school choice, and I'm a big believer in school choice, is that we are very fortunate here in Hamilton County to have so many in parochial
schools. When you get into rural Ohio and southeast Ohio, there are no sins this is and that's to go to. So in a way, we've kind of created a bit of a false promise for the folks that live in those counties where there simply are no private or parochial schools to go to. So you say, well, okay, we'll develop them and we'll spring them
up. Yes, but then we have to be sure that they're run by honorable people and they're not being run by a bunch of grifters, because we had that problem in years gone by with the charter schools, where some of them were lacking in proper accountability and financial controls. And then we had to come back and correct for that. But school choice is a good thing, and back to our main conversation, this is one way of ensuring that there will be choice in where you send your kids to school. You know,
I mean, I believe in traditional public schools. I believe in school choice. My kids went to Saint x and say Nantoninis. I went to Covidale Elementary and Western Hills High School. I believe in education for everybody, but I also believe different strokes for different folks. And so as long as we continue to fund the traditional K to twelve schools fully and also fund the parochial schools through the voucher program, we're gonna have something to be proud of.
We're one of only eight states now that have universal school choice. We became the eighth state over the weekend. That's a good thing, and it's the statistics show, by the way, that the Catholic schools that remained open during COVID to a greater extent than the public schools did are not having this terrible fall off in math and English scores that we're seeing in the traditional public schools. So the Catholic option worked during COVID we got to run Bill Sites once
again from Columbus. But when deans of law school suborne perjury loudly and proudly, it's chaos us and we're in trouble once again. Bill Sites Representative, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. There's glorious Wednesday afternoon. Thank you, Yeah, celebrate our birthday. Thanks Billy Yeah, and buzus America. Let's continue with more your reaction five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven WLW Men.
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