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7-27-23 Willie with Scott Gerber

Jul 27, 202315 min
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Willie talks with constitutional law professor Scott Gerber formerly of Ohio Northern University about his pending litigation with ONU over his dismissal for refusing to support illegal hiring practices.

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Ugger with the Cubs, then back home again. The Red Legs are twenty seven and nine against all teams but Milwaukee over the past six weeks. So they can't beat Milwaukee, but they beat everybody else. That's a different story. So let's continue on April the fourteenth of this year at Ohio Northern University, the home of Mike Allen near and around eight to a disgusting event took place. And I've had on Professor Scott Gerber a couple of times since then

with an update. And now the judge has gotten involved in the case. And first of all, professor, should I call you professor? Are you Scott Bill? Because not a professor anymore? Well, I still they haven't quite fired me. They're working hard to do it, but they haven't quite

succeeded yet. All right, to give the American people a synopsis of what happened in April the fourteenth, caused by Ohio Northern University president and others, the dean, then we'll talk about the update that happened a couple of days ago. Give us a full report. On April fourteenth, I was teaching my constitutional law class. We were wrapping up just before one o'clock and campus

security entered the classroom with my students present. Came down to the front, and one of the sergeants whispered into my ear something to the effect of your respected member of the community, please follow us quietly to the Dean's office. And so I was, of course shocked and confused and scared. I looked

into the classroom and my students seemed confused and scared also. I then had to do a purp walk through the stairs, and at the top of the stairs, armed eight to town police were waiting, and so I was escorted to the dean's suite by campus security and armed town police. When I got into the dean's suite, the dean's office is in there. The town police regarding the exits to the dean suite, so I couldn't get out, and the dean handed me a two page piece of paper that said that unless I

resigned in a week, he's going to institute dismissal proceedings against me. And I have tenure. And I asked him what I'm accused of doing, and he wouldn't tell me. I recorded the meeting, as I'm allowed to by law, but he also knew I was doing it, and so I asked him repeatedly what am I accused of doing? He wouldn't tell me, and so on the form the only thing he said was insufficient collegiality, which doesn't mean anything, and it's also not a grounds for a termination under the faculty

handbook. I was then immediately banished from campus and I've not been allowed to set foot on campus since then, and so that's basically it. And then the University of the University's president, on June twenty eighth, at ten twenty six at night, when I was asleep, emailed me the charges for dismissal, and she gave me five or so business days to prepare for my dismissal hearing. And I have no idea, had no idea what I was accused

of doing wrong. It was just full of generic and conclusory assertions like, you know, he's a bad guy kind of stuff, But no, you know who was I a bad person too? You know? What did I do? When did I do it? That kind of thing. And so my my lawyers asked them, the dismissal committee, to give us enough time to prepare. They refused, We asked. They then said the president had

to do it. So we asked her and she didn't respond, and so I hired outside counsel to try to help me, and outside council file the tro O in Hardin County on June thirtieth, and on July sixth, the judge issued a temporary restraining order, saying it's ridiculous to think I could prepare for something this important in five or six business days because he knew my entire

career and reputation was at stake. Now hold on, I must say on this point, I want to tell the American people that you're in your sixties, that you've been at O NU for more than twenty years teaching it's iranic constitutional law, and that you had recently had calls to be published. You're one of the most published constitutional law professors in Ohio with books and pamphlets and

articles. But you had recently caused something to be published picked up by Hill dot Com that went to the Wall Street Journal about diversity needed to include viewpoint diversity and kind of fill in the blanks on that one, which I think is the real reason. When someone is perp walk like that, I'd have to think maybe you held up a bank. Maybe you're an arsonist, Maybe you had a couple multiple DUIs. Maybe you left the scene of an accident.

In other words, you committed some criminal act, all of which did not occur. But tell about the tell Us about the article in the Hill dot com? Yeah, so um. The Wall Street Journal contacted me because they had heard about what happened on April fourteen, and they asked if i'd submit an op ed about it, and so I did, and so in the piece, you know, I had to make quote educated guesses about why

they were doing this because they refused to tell me. And the Monday before I was escorted out by campus security and armed police, I had published an op ed in The Hill saying that Justice Clarence Thomas was entitled to have friends, including a rich friend like mister Harland Crowell and I and I said that, you know, he, you know, I'm allowed to have friends. You're allowed to have friends, Bill, were all allowed to have friends,

and so people should just drop that nonsense and so. And then the week before that I had published, I had done a TV interview saying that the Senate Bill eighty three about the anti woke stuff in Ohio colleges and universities was making some really good points, including for me, just reminding colleges and universities that they cannot hire people on the basis of skin color, for example,

which they do all the time. And so the week before that, I had written two op eds on that same point, which is why I got the TV interview, one of which was in your Cincinnati newspaper, another of which was in the Washington Examiner. And so, you know, I was an O and U was big on DEI. The prior president established a commission and you know, said all kinds of things in there, like, you know, we know that quotas are probably illegal, probably bill probably stuff like

that. You know, we know we can't do X, but let's let's try it anyway, that kind of stuff. And so I objected to that, you know, to the president, I said, you cannot do this. It's illegal. And I did it multiple times. And I thought, because it's literally legally protected activity to oppose what, in good faith I believe is illegal hiring practices, and because, as you kindly mentioned, my record, my professional record is so strong, I thought, plus having tenure,

I would be safe. But I was not. So for those who think D EI and the cancerous illegal cells it throws off only applies to Stanford College of Law or New York University or Ohio State Universe College of Law. It applies to o NU in Ada, Ohio. D EI has infiltrated every aspect. In fact, I have an article in newsmax dot com I could share

with you that said that there's a large group of law school professors. These are not engineering professors or history professors, but these are law school professors who say that we must stand up and oppose the US Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action as racism and illegal. We have to violate the law in order to keep our props with the left wing crowd. So you have law school professors, heads of universities and others, deans of law schools saying we will not

follow the law. Isn't that isn't that rich? That is unbelievable. No, I agree with you, and you know, and they're the ones violate in the law, not me, and you know. Just coincidentally, the judge judge on July twenty fourth, literally ordered the university to finally tell me what I'm accused of doing wrong. They refused to do it. This started in January, Bill when HR reached out to me and I you know,

and and I said, well why you know? And so literally fifty times me, my lawyers, professional groups, the media like yourself have been trying to find out what I've been accused of. And the judge finally said, you must tell him. This is an order by this court. You must tell him. And they still haven't done it. Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why? Because the reason there they perp walked you in a public way does send a clear message to anyone who would think like

you. It is because the reason they fired you is illegal, and they can't admit that they commit racism and O and you and you're a white guy, they can't admit that the real reason they let you go is because you had the temerity to say that affirmative action and racism routinely practice on college campuses is immoral, illegal and after the userprene court decision of about a month ago,

they can't admit to an illegality. That's the reason, correct. And one of the documents they finally produced says that I should be terminated because I opposed illegal hiring practices, say that again. One of the documents that they produced literally says that one of the reasons I should be fired was because I objected to illegal hiring practices. I think about that statement. They put that in writing. It's your listeners could go to the docket and read it.

This guy is being fired because he opposed illegalities. And you're a constitutional law professor, and you you opposed illegals, what illegal illegal doctrines when it comes to ray, Yeah, professor, we're in trouble. We're in trouble. I think it's it's noteworthy you got the guts and the coyonis to actually stand up and oppose this. And so at the end of the day July twenty fourth, they finally said, we're firing this guy because he opposes illegal behavior.

What what you have to am, I you're kind of dumbfounded. Does this mean you automatically win at this point? Well, I could internally. I could be Jesus Christ and lose internally because the hearing committee is so stacked with conflicts of interest, and as you know, Jesus Christ lost his trial also. But externally, you know, I think I'll win breach a contract, defamation, things like that. But the judge. You know, he is trying to make sure that I have a fair process, but they're not

complying with this court order. In fact, just before you called me, we filed an affidavid from the lawyer representing me during the dismissal process, who said that O and you is refusing to do what the judge ordered them to do on Monday, and that has been more specific in terms of what I'm alleged to have done, and also discussed with my lawyer the procedures, and they've done neither of those things. And so that now will be before the

judge tomorrow, I'm told, and we'll see what happens. All right, Well, you got to give us more updates because I have high regard. You know, my wife spent an appellate judge in the state of a higher first District Court of Appeals for a long time. I have great respect for judges who deal with difficult issues. But when you have a party who refuses to follow the law and they admit it in writing that we're letting Professor Scott

Gerber go because he opposes illegal behavior, we're in trouble. Lastly, what is your website? You got to go fund me page. How do people like Tony Bender and others who may want to contribute your defense fund can assist? What is that? If you go to Google and just type in Scott Gerber Legal Fund, go fund me, it pops right up. So thank you for asking people to do that. Bill Professor Mano, if I can call you a professor, but Scott Gerber, thank you and let us know

what happens in the future. And I will continue as I promised you back in April that I will continue to follow this. Thank you, Bill, Thank you, all right, let's continue. One has to say that Ohio Northern University issues juris doctorate to Greece and it's I've never been there, but I'm sure it's a good place. We're not talking about Harvard or Stamford or

Chicago, these big urban areas. This is a farm community in central Ohio in which the leaders of Ohio Northern University will fire and law professor in constitutional law because he does not support illegal behavior. Let's continue Bill Cunningham with you every day on news radio seven hundred WW. People have always craved entertainment.

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